[청취 및 리딩자료] 이집트 왕자 #01. Moses and Ramses

[@missy8106]

The prince of Egypt is arguably one of the most visually stunning animations ever

[@daniellachikombola7697]

Facts

[@orcawithdrip827]

I’m still freaking out over how fluid the animation is

[@teekelmcintosh2185]

Moses is a *coughcough* snack in this movie

[@irish5662]

It really is marvelous, and oddly better than most live action portrayals

[@BrIdEsMaIdCoOlO]

And a dope sound track!

[@inanna4861]

A detail that no one talks about: the Pharaoh really loves Moses, despite the fact that he is an adopted son

[@gijoe820]

But wasn’t Moses raised by his biological mother (I forgot her name) in the original bible exodus story?

[@inanna4861]

The Black Sun honey, I'm talking about the movie not about the real story

[@gijoe820]

Dana Dar oh, ok I just thought the movie was completely accurate to the biblical story.

[@inanna4861]

The Black Sun no, it wasn't. There's a lot of things that weren't following the bible

[@Pramos1123]

@@gijoe820 yes but she never revealed to him that she was his mother she was kinda like a nanny

[@huldrrrr9486]

I love how they didn't make the Pharaoh a evil cartoon villain. He is a real, flawed person with feelings and thoughts behind his actions

[@thek5197]

You mean...like everyone else

[@annalkitb5370]

Hussain Ahmad Exactly! XD I really don't think he's a good "villain"

[@onepumpman6209]

@@annalkitb5370 well it makes sense. the pharaoh is a human who makes horrible decisions. other disney villains are supernatural monsters.

[@annalkitb5370]

One Pump Man Haha no that's definitely *absolutely nonsense* ! Almost all Disney villains have understandable reasons why they became "evil",but you don't notice that in the movies (of course) because the movies aren't about the villains (they aren't the main characters) and the reason why they became the way we know them is often in their past/childhood ... But there are enough books about it, for example Scar's past: "A tale of two brothers" and Ursula's past: "A tale of a sea witch". I didn't read many of them but I can give you an example: Scar (The Lion King) He was neglected by his father (Ahadi) since the day he was born. His real name is "Taka" which literally means "Dirt" while his brother's name Mufasa means "King".However he was also treated as if he was "worth less" and since he was disinterested as the second son of the king anyway you can understand well why he became jealous and hateful... Hans (Frozen): He was the youngest of 13 brothers and was mistreated by his father and brother because he had the image of a weakling and was (according to his father) too mild- mannered, which should be compensated for with regular abuse. He soon succumbed to depressions and became cold-hearted and manipulative as we know him from the movie "frozen". ... But how I said: There are many more books about "why the Disney villains" became evil even from a few fairy- tail villains. Now that we clarified that, I hope it's no longer a problem that I have a different opinion than you...

[@afifzahiruddinrohaizan52]

More like his neutral. Rameses becomes a villian when Moses ran away and left a scar in his heart which hardened made him become cruel and twisted with anger, pride and hatred.

[@Urk31]

They had such an amazing brotherly relationship, sad to see how it ended

[@ainulkabir5056]

It's better that it ended. If they stayed brotherly, Moses could have went into Rameses's way and become bad like him.

[@todotodolikesyou9518]

Then you see "The Plagues" and your heart just crumbles to pieces 😔

[@John_Smith.]

@@rustydollparts Well, the Bible never actually names the Pharoah, and it's generally considered that the Biblical account of the story is at best a very loose account, and at worst largely made up.

[@John_Smith.]

@@rustydollparts Why? Not why do you believe in God or anything, but why do you assume the Bible is completely accurate. Obviously, you're a person of faith, and there's nothing wrong with that, but the Bible was written by people. And then translated, by other people. And you reading it, are a person. That's a whole bunch of fallible people involved in getting to the interpretation of the events that you have. Especially as we, as a modern society, lack a lot of the cultural context that people a few thousand years ago would have had. It's possible that there was some meaning to the Exodus that can't be translated across, because we lack knowledge of things that would have been considered common back then.

[@jonathanphadael9977]

Man you good man

[@tevinrittenhouse6012]

The way the queen hangs her head in shame says a lot. She raised Moses better than that.

[@fullmetalgamer6062]

Which is why Moses let Zipporah escape.

[@malahamavet]

i like how in this film there are more complex situations than any other religion themed film. in any other version of this, all Egyptians are cartoonishly evil from the beginning. but this film shows good people everywhere, even Faroh is portrayed as caring about his sons, but having to maintain the ancient rule at the same time. the only really bad characters are Hotep and Hoy, the priests, which are cartoonishly evil. but the rest are more complex, and having a gentle hearted mother and a stoic but kinda caring father makes it far more enjoyable

[@michelclarke9996]

Vasili Stan I do think the Egyptians had the capacity for good but don't let the isolation of these scenes deceive you. Good people do not turn a blind eye to injustice. Also, you must comprehend the degree to which the queen profits from slavery. If you want to make the case that in those times the Queen was more of a trophy than a monarch; one this movie shows that Seti does listen to her, two she is well aware of the injustice she profits from, now she may have been by the river during the genocide. Still, that same genocide is written on the walls. Moreover, later in the movie, Moses realises that he has been turning a blind eye to injustice and even says that Aaron was right to condemn him ”I didn't see because I didn't want to see”. In conclusion yes real evil people are not moustache-twirling, maniacal laughing or whatever colloquial hyperboles that are frequently used to symbolise evil. They are much more like you and me, but that makes them no less evil and do not be deceived.

[@xTwilightWolvesx]

@@michelclarke9996 Of course. God blessed the Pharaoh who listened to Joseph; He rewards good behaviour when He sees it. He is merciful, after all. But this shows the point of Jesus' sacrifice. Good people get twisted into doing bad acts, and that's why we needed Jesus to save us. The fact is we've all sinned, even if we're otherwise good people, and that's unacceptable in God's eyes. We're only saved by His mercy.

[@michelclarke9996]

xTwilightWolvesx I am glad you have understood these scenes. It seems like you let scripture guide your understanding. May Elohim continue to guide you.

[@jessicaparker8127]

Moses has a lot of respect and care for his mother, as soon as he looked at her he immediately felt guilty for what he did just because she looked upset

[@brittanymartin6122]

Even though she knew he's a Hebrew, she loved him as her own.

[@restuandriyanmaullana7567]

In Islam mother who takes care of moses in the egypt castle secretly did not believe in his husband, so she's follow moses believing, but in the end she's been punished by ramses because of it

[@godiswithme6536]

In the Bible Moses didn’t accept her being his mom

[@BunnyQueen97]

@@godiswithme6536 he doesn’t by the end of the story. They both refuse each other.

[@rosem5041]

She is one of the women of paradise as stated by the final prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. Her name was Asiya may God be pleased with her also Maryam peace be upon her the mother of prophet Issa (Jesus) Khadija, God be pleased with her the wife and of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and Fatima God be pleased with her the daughter of the blessed prophet. Ayesha peace be upon her the wife of the blessed prophet

[@shadowfaxframe]

This really was some of the peak of American animated cinema

[@dear3sotto418]

I miss those days 😪

[@g07denslicer]

I can't believe it didn't get more recognition in its time.

[@franktruth9639]

@@g07denslicer It DID get recognition in its time (late 1990s/early 2000s). My question is, WHY IS IT NOT TALKED ABOUT TODAY in mainstream? Nobody will ever forget Lion King (rightfully so), but WHY has this film been forgotten?

[@BobbieBins]

@@franktruth9639 Because lion king formed the moral compass of a generation and this movie is too nuanced to influence children and arguably not appropriate to even show to kids considering how many people are murdered, enslaved, and the actions of the characters could portray bullying and abuse as funny to young children who usually take things at face value. As far as im concerned this is an adult animated film and a masterful one at that. Also old people have some weird phobia or bias against animated shows.

[@cseijifja]

@@BobbieBins the lion king has fraticide and atempted child murder, wtf are you on?

[@Hannah-fe4yf]

The best moment is their mother turning her head away in disappointment at watching how her sons mistreat the slave girl.

[@jamescharles6729]

Actually, she's not a slave, but the daughter of a Midian priest.

[@user-ok8yq6nc6x]

@@jamescharles6729 she was captured and was going to be a slave but she esca

[@jamescharles6729]

@@user-ok8yq6nc6x No. She was going to be married off to one of the princes, but she rejected them because they were so prideful, especially Ramses. However, she ends up marrying Moses in the end.

[@jamescharles6729]

One of the servants even called her a delicate desert flower.

[@user-ok8yq6nc6x]

@@jamescharles6729 not how it happened in the movie. Clearly she's in bondage here

[@followerofchrist9800]

I really like how Ramses looks more like his mother lol.

[@followerofchrist9800]

Signaco Scuba I know I just meant in comparison to his father

[@ilqar887]

They are not he's real parents by the way

[@followerofchrist9800]

scouse nofeyzulla Moses is adopted but Ramses isn’t lol

[@Wandrative]

but he looks nothing like his father tho

[@skip031890]

@@followerofchrist9800 Boys usually look like their mothers while girls tend to look like their fathers. Good call out.

[@SuperSparrow45]

"Moses, you will never carry a burden like the crown I will pass to Ramses." Yeah...about that.

[@Annahg78]

😂

[@Garl_Vinland]

Moses: I’m gonna pretend a bush talked to me. You’ll see…

[@edvinparmeza1298]

God: I'm about to destroy this man's whole career

[@ismeza76]

God : Bet

[@marialucianatoffoli5737]

​@@Garl_Vinland 😂

[@WillScarlet16]

It's amazing how Val Kilmer and Ralph Fiennes were both in their mid-to-late thirties here but were still able to give the feeling of teenagers.

[@zoomerjack5435]

Moses was 40 years old when he fled from Egypt.

[@patrickmaldonado7529]

Seen something that said back then the term teenagers wasn’t really a thing you were either an adult or a child people back then had to grow up way faster then we do today so it’s kinda fitting

[@yarynstytsyuk7282]

@@zoomerjack5435 not in this movie

[@valerierosario491]

They were so great in this movie!!

[@purplelover9633]

@@yarynstytsyuk7282did they tell us they were teens in this movie?

[@loszhor]

I like how you can feel the fatherly love even while he's scolding him.

[@speedracer2008]

Yeah. For as harsh as Seti is with Rameses, it comes out of genuine concern. He knows he won’t be around forever and wants to make sure he can entrust his empire to a worthy successor, once he dies. Rameses, so far, hasn’t proven himself to be this worthy successor with his behavior and needs to be held accountable for it.

[@shaygalloway8683]

Yeah lol. This was a really great movie..

[@bigbosses4686]

@@speedracer2008 What love about this is even the Villains have a set of very human morals and care about their close ones.

[@sammywestenberger9303]

SETI: Behold!

[@JacobIX99]

Crazy how they both grew together as dear brothers, but ended up sworn enemies.

[@mhlib7569]

It’s great that they built up their close relationship; so it would be more devastating that they ended up fighting each other

[@BlueSpino4472]

The tagline on one of the posters for this movie put it best: “Two brothers” “United by friendship” “Divided by destiny”

[@theminuteman3460]

Just like Sozin and Roku

[@Aemilius46]

Even during the fighting, Moses and Ramses still showed brotherly love for each other!! Which I absolutely love!!

[@fgcpeak9591]

@@theminuteman3460 like masala and judah

[@iambored4932]

"But one weak link can break the chain of a mighty dynasty"

[@Xavier17.5]

how does this add to the video? you are just saying what they already said in the video.

[@mrpenis7755]

@@Xavier17.5 who cares

[@Kyle_765]

@@Xavier17.5 they are just mentioning a quote from this video that perhaps stood out to them, calm down, noone has to add anything to the video 😂

[@hoefor0672]

@@Xavier17.5because later on the movie ramses quotes how he doesn’t want to be shown as weak for letting the salves free 🤦‍♀️

[@zeNUKEify]

This movie was so human

[@vehlkovjoh2042]

Agree! :)

[@benv7933]

The characters were so relatable

[@novaesc844]

Maybe cause it is

[@thebunnygod1605]

Did you forgot that this movie was based on the novel

[@mikechirinos9817]

​@@thebunnygod1605Book of Exodus

[@camillae9539]

I miss Dreamworks 2D animation. Wish they still made those animated films😖

[@abrahamhimself]

Yeah I miss the times when they had to draw a scene out with paint or pencil and spend hours upon hours for one scene. That's pure heart and dedication.

[@camillae9539]

@@abrahamhimself they did do 2D animation in the Kung Fu Panda films.

[@loveraoswaldo]

I'm sure they would've if audiences went to see these movies. No one supported this sadly, I don't just mean critics, but audiences too. We were all busy watching Pixar or something.

[@nathancruz9172]

Me too.

[@niyiraluvsmb]

Omg yessssss I really miss 2D !!!

[@edvinparmeza1298]

"There go the pyramids" "Statues cracking and toppling over, the Nile drying up. Single handedly, you will manage to bring the greatest kingdom on Earth to ruin" Scary how Moses is jokingly foreshadowing the future of Ramses and Egyptian Empire

[@atlashums]

Omg I never thought about that!!!

[@BlueSpino4472]

Indeed he is, now that you say it!

[@MissRaex]

Wow. I never took note to that!

[@Lightningstrike1220]

God did not use Moses to destroy the Egyptian empire, the empire fell when Cleopatra made a fatal mistake.

[@edvinparmeza1298]

@@Lightningstrike1220 agree, but I am talking mostly about physical destruction, and deaths of Egyptian people, which occur during Ramses reign

[@zurvanmooney4940]

Don’t worry. Nobody will even notice us coming in. (Large crowd cheers) “Nobody will even notice”

[@katpeirce4439]

ah the young princes ramses you have just been named prince rejent your now in charge of overseeing all the temples i suggest you get over there and thank your father

[@ChloHB]

the level of foreshadowing in these scenes is INSANE

[@wiskyBOY123]

Yeah the bible does that lol

[@Savior20061]

I think it would be more foreshadowing if everyone didn't know the story. xD

[@opheliawinfrey9501]

Yes the Qur’an does that (and Injeel and Taurat did that)

[@reiyproduction2805]

"you're not much of a snake charmer aren't you" ~Moses, who'se staff turns into a snake years later

[@michaelsea1524]

The voice actor for Ramses also played the part of Lord Voldemort several years later :)

[@stephaniecruz6518]

Omg really!? No wonder he sounded familiar!

[@michaelsea1524]

@@stephaniecruz6518 Yes! :D

[@Scary_Mask_Tomboy]

It's funny cause i keep imagining Voldemort saying Ramses' lines, how funny is that? i love it 😂

[@nickp2271]

And the voice actor for the pharaoh also played Professor Charles Xavier two years later in the first live action X-Men movie.

[@sylvesterroy3745]

Ralph Fiennes is the name my friend .. :)

[@arthurverardy1498]

Pharaoh : *enslaves the hebrews, whip them, forces them to work without pay, feed babies to aligators, have no remorse for the cruelties he did to the hebrews and their children* Also Pharaoh : wHy Do tHe gOdS ToRmenT mE?!!

[@cristinac5923]

@Michael Kim one of those sons are Moses..

[@phoenixflamegames1]

To be fair, from his perspective what he does is normal so he genuinely doesn’t know why it all happens to him.

[@sneakyturtle1117]

God: You bad man

[@Ghostkar]

People on KZbin: *sympathize with pharaoh*

[@Ghostkar]

@@phoenixflamegames1 I can relate :-/

[@antionettebubbles]

You can't help but to feel bad for Rameses during his younger days. It's hard trying to live up to your parents expectations

[@hannanna1004]

yeah I love how they made the antagonist so human and relatable

[@Whocares158]

Agreed.

[@dianachin4849]

Ramses should've moved out and got his own apartment. He has excellent credit score 😄

[@thepublicpotato3887]

The bond Moses and Ramses had makes the movie later on that much more tragic

[@a.a.5980]

What they did to the girl was pretty cruel and humiliating.

[@Uppercut92]

Well it does give us a real reason to understand why Moses feels so terrible later on in the film. It makes him more believable as a lost fool before he is redeemed.

[@vehlkovjoh2042]

Moses is one of the best characters ever

[@ellie2041]

In a way he did safe her twice after, first it was better to fall in water rather than man handled or harmed by the palace guards , and two when he saw her sneaking out of the place that night he sent the guards away so she wouldn’t get caught

[@gratius1394]

Yep, a bath can be VERY harmful... C'mon, she was a captive, a slave. The way she was treated was in fact very lenient, afterall she just tried to bite heir to the throne - not the smartest move for someone in her position. In my opinion it wasn't a show of strength/character but one of stupidity.

[@therealvlad505]

@@gratius1394 The fact is they were in a higher position to her and abused their power to mistreat her. That will always be cruel

[@kenoucrer668]

When you save a random child and 30 years later it result at the death of your unique grand son and all the first born of your country : *Not stonk*

[@djmarsone5209]

Ramses die too 🤔 so....

[@lilliesupreme9767]

@@djmarsone5209 no he doesn't

[@thedragon1363]

Well he saved him from something he caused but still not stonks lmao

[@DeusEx.Machina]

Save a random child from an evil plan you created and administered ?

[@dustbites3557]

saving a child all the while killing thousands of others?

[@Raziel21]

"Oh, my new thing!" gets me every single time.

[@Noppepoppe]

"I am SO upset!"

[@emilyluzius8846]

@@Noppepoppe you might as well...

[@pat_zoo_posting2618]

@@emilyluzius8846 "you're gonna pay for this, we're gonna tell the pharaoh"

[@emilyluzius8846]

@@pat_zoo_posting2618 aw I'm drenched again!

[@BlueSpino4472]

@@emilyluzius8846 Rameses! I think you owe us an apology!

[@bluesimine2023]

"Statues cracking and toppling over, the Nile drying up...single handedly you will manage to bring the greatest kingdom on earth to ruin" I mean...give it a few years and...yeah, pretty much

[@15rachana58]

Technically the truth

[@prime8478]

Little did moses know that was his destiny. Not Ramses's.

[@mlpdiamonds7530]

Technically yeah

[@Kakashi713]

@@prime8478 you got that in reverse. It was Rameses' destiny to do that due to his arrogance, stubbornness and pride. Moses was only the messenger, hence why there is a saying, "Don't shoot the messenger, he's just there to deliver a message". If Rameses heeded and let the Hebrews go, none of the plagues would have happened.

[@dforman4770]

*ohhh the irony*

[@gamerpez7074]

2:45 I just realized, everything that Moses said here happened. But it wasn't his brother that caused it, it was him.

[@aesqueth2815]

mann ur good for noticing that

[@autumnhebert2101]

Actually it wasn’t Moses it was Rameses because he hardened his heart towards God resulting in plagues and destruction as punishment However great attention to detail

[@Vikingr4Jesus5919]

Well, the Nile didn't dry up it got turned to blood.

[@jira6423]

No duh i just watched this clip noticed that.

[@cindypicadomolina7814]

Everything Moses listed is everything that happens AFTER Ramses refused to obey God and let the people of Israel go. Everything was caused by Ramses's pride and stubbornness

[@tatan4939]

Their mom is an admirable woman.

[@nicholasmedovich8691]

Whatever happened to her?? Did she get killed by the plague?? After her final words were you are our son and we love you

[@mothermovementa]

The Dignity of the queen makes me cry. 😔 she loves her husband and that enables her to love her children

[@KyleEvra-15]

I guess she died.

[@schnek8927]

I don't see why. All she does here is turn away in shame after her adoptive son did nothing wrong.

[@little_ghosty1854]

Poor Ramses, he had so much pressure at such a young age, lost one of the most supportive people in his life and is constantly compared to his father. No wonder he broke down so hard. Clear inferiority complex and self image issues. And it resulted in dead people including his son. I'm sorry Rameses you deserved better. And something cathartic to do. Like a vacation.

[@cheukyinglau8011]

Yeah, poor thing, he deserves better

[@Vi-ok8of]

Or maybeeeee it's not that the slave owner deserved better, it's that the slave owner should have become better. Sigh...Rameses your life could've changed for the better. Moses would've been the coolest Uncle, Isreal could've had a sister city in Egypt and everything.

[@Yams-Hams7734]

@Princess Nylani omg yes!

[@Yams-Hams7734]

@@Vi-ok8of well your upbringing says a lot about who you'll be as an adult, it'd be one thing if Rameses was taught to be sympathetic and kind towards those less fortunate at a young age, but he was taught by his father to be a cold, ruthless, king. Plus Seti constantly pushed Rameses so hard, and if you notice Rameses as pharaoh said "A greater Egypt than that of my father." When Moses asked him about what he saw down in the streets of Egypt.

[@christophermaccool8029]

poor Ramises his father twisted him up to be just like him that is why he became the bad guy.

[@mannyperez7178]

It's interesting how he says one weak link can bring a dynasty down, goes down in history as Ramses The Great and one of the most successful pharaoh's in Egyptian history.

[@Travisbassbone0]

That’s cause Ramises was a selfish brat

[@모세스-n6o]

In real life Ramses was one of the most successful Pharaohs in Egypt. He shaped Egypt into a hub of trade and education.

[@christophermaccool8029]

@@모세스-n6o then he let it go down in disaster just because he refused to let the Hebrew people go?

[@모세스-n6o]

@@christophermaccool8029 There are no records of the enslavement of the Hebrew people. Slaves were usually prisoners of war, criminals, or people looking for shelter and food.

[@DarthInsomnis]

The tragedy of this story: this amazing bond being broken. I love their dynamic, and it’s such a shame that they are torn apart by the end. Sad for sure.

[@choryllis6646]

"But one weak link can break the chain of a mighty dynasty!" It's cruel but true. Just look at Akhenaten.

[@davidcorruthers78]

The blasphemous pharaoh

[@Valagh]

Akhenaten was never the weak link in the chain. In the political sphere, he had simply not worried about possible revolts, a detail that his successors think about. He was an "out of the box" personality, but certainly not the worst of the pharaohs. Not even the best, and certainly not a man of action, but I think talking about a weak link is too much for even him (in fact, his dynasty does not disappear. If it were the downfall of Egypt, we would have had a political breakdown, like occurred in 476 AD for the Western Roman Empire)

[@georgewilliamsiii4677]

WE DO NOT SPEAK HIS NAME. SOOT ON HIS SOUL

[@SuperFanboy101]

Under far better circumstances, could you imagine what Moses and Ramses could achieve together?

[@mehnah5033]

Right!?

[@zacharymoss2994]

True but in a even more tragic way, the modern western world as we know it would never have come into existence. No 10 commandments, then no Judaism, no Christianity, no teachings of christ, no magna Carta and no usa. In a twisted way this tragedy helped bring about the modern world as we know it.

[@bmproc81chi]

How the Queen mother put that hand up when Ramses was about say "father" was everything at 1:18.

[@dansmodacct]

Mother knows best

[@Wolf10media]

Very well animated too! How it jerks upwards like that syncing with Ramses' gesture. And how poised she is. Like she was saying to him don't press it any farther.

[@dominaiscna]

There's a lot of really neat details in Queen Tuya's behaviour throughout the movie, like this one. She seems to be pretty sharp and cunning, like when she advises the boys on how to behave while they are before the crowd of people and their Father. I suppose, one could hardly be a queen, without the sharpness and smarts to get you in this position.

[@sexyslim92]

Right lmao I peeped that too it felt like a real mother

[@Travisbassbone0]

Here’s My favorite scene: Rameses: Tell me this Moses tell me this, why is that every time you start something, I’m the one who ends up in trouble? Moses dropping a bag of punch on the Phaorough’s assistants and getting away with it while Rameses gets noticed. It’s cause Moses is a prankster. 😂😂😂😂

[@aliostrowski1935]

its me and my sister :)

[@somerepublicangirl4804]

Thats me and my siblings!.Also I read this while they were saying it!

[@tutuforbes649]

Also my fav scene😂😂

[@kimberlytunkel4567]

Lmao 😂😂😂😂 that’s me and my siblings too. They captured the sibling relationship perfectly

[@9386AliG]

Me and my cousin Danny, mostly he gets in trouble than I did since I was two years younger than he is. But eventually he and I get along, since we outgrew our rivalry.

[@KaseyKay92]

The background animation is beautiful~ The scenery from the courtroom window is breathtaking

[@aesqueth2815]

literally, the thought behind it, especially Pharaoh beside the statue that we see Ramses beside again later its so cool!!

[@Aemilius46]

I know right!! It's really excellent Animation!!

[@drea4pres970]

That’s karnak in the background

[@danofsteel785]

1:19 I love the visual contrast between the Pharaoh and the queen where the former is in the shadow while the latter is in the light

[@larrygonzalez4619]

moses ; dont worry nobody will even notice us coming in crowds cheering rameses ; nobody will noitce... i love that part

[@Travisbassbone0]

The best

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

1:42 Really amazing dialogue here. The Pharaoh tells Moses that he will never have to carry a burden like the crown he will pass to Ramses is marvelous. The way he lines up with the statue behind him shows us that the Pharaoh truly does have seemingly endless power. Yet alludes to Moses having to carry the burden of God and the task of freeing the Hebrews from Egyptian slavery and leading them back to The Promised Land as God will task him, which is a far greater burden than the Pharaoh would ever carry.

[@bait5257]

F

[@shoOoterlegend]

you dont have to be religious to admire how excellence and the mastercraft that is the prince of egypt. its the one movie that i will watch over and over again

[@blockmasterscott]

Oh for sure, I'm not religious at all, but I still love this movie. It's awesome.

[@edselflores513]

This is the only Moses story for me :)

[@I-speak-U-shut-it]

I agree. The one that had Christian Bale in it was fucking boring.

[@SwfanredLotr]

This and Charlton Heston.

[@el-mm3lb]

@@I-speak-U-shut-it lol the islam ver quite boring too..im not gonna lie, myb bcs the quality of the animation

[@ΣαντιξηςΜαρίνος]

This is not the true story of Moses

[@therealmittromneyful]

this is not the TRUE historically accurate and proven story of Moses but it is a great movie despite not having the historical accuracies of the real exodus book

[@jayrenteria605]

This always saddest me. Even though they came from different parents they were True Brothers who greatly cared for each other, which is what makes their falling out more painful.!

[@ebifox2683]

i genuinely adore Moses' and Rameses' brotherly moments and banter early in the film, like when Moses cheered Rameses up by pouring punch on the high priests. also when the Queen went from being all sweet with "Ah, the young princes..." to "Rameses!" and saved his ass from being clueless XD also did anyone notice how Rameses ducked down to hide behind Moses when Zipporah said "I won't be given to anyone"? and they both looked genuinely fearful in that moment 😂

[@The4Tifier]

2:30 I just realized as an adult that while Moses is being sarcastic, he actually prophesies the future; Ramses does bring down Egypt single-handedly due to his pride and hardened heart…

[@teekelmcintosh2185]

The queen is so beautiful like oh my gosh

[@crhu319]

And says everything with a gesture or look.

[@ThatMissQuin]

Can we talk for a second about how Rameses ducks behind Moses when she starts talking. 5:22

[@katjawaterlight]

That's litterally me when I pass guys in my age, I always hide behind my bff 😂

[@biancamatthews6844]

“Ohhh my new thing!” “I AM SO UPSET!” 😂 It’s so rich. Great lines from Besties Steve Martin and Martin Short. Love this movie.

[@ddthewolf]

It's funny how little respect Moses seemed to have for the fake priests even before he discovered that he was the chosen one, a nice little foreshadowing lol

[@Aemilius46]

That's what he said?? "My new thing" 😂😂😂😂 I couldn't fully understand what he was saying, it sounded like "my new thing", but I was thinking why he wouldn't know the name of it! 😅

[@destinythomas5537]

Rameses wasnt a bad person if you reaaaally think about it. You cant help but pity him by the end of the movie

[@cherriee7631]

ikr. hes just doing what he's taught. especially because he doesnt want to be the "weak link". he still cares for moses.

[@funsquadlove7133]

Yeah

[@auroraborealis1060]

True. In the Torah, he was an ass though

[@vetarlittorf1807]

Except he was a brutal, arrogant, egotistical dictator.

[@kevinmccabe3984]

He kind of is though. Sure he had real human emotions, and his motivations were not EVIL, as all he wanted was a strong kingdom. The problem is he was completely apathetic to everyone he considered beneath him. You can see it here. He wasn’t sadistic enough to rape the foreigner, but at the same time he didn’t value her life enough to prevent Moses from doing it. It’s foreshadowing how he saw the enslavement of the hebrews. It wasn’t based on racial hatred, but he was too apathetic to value their autonomy over the greatness of his dynasty.

[@blockmasterscott]

“Your sons learned nothing!” “Well they learned blasphemy” “True” 🤣🤣🤣👍

[@GoofyChild33]

I STILL CAN'T STOP LAUGHING LOL

[@ktg5713]

Lol

[@malevolenxe]

LMAOOO

[@MissRaex]

🤣🤣🤣

[@rebeccamichael626]

When I was little, I always thought he said "Well, they learned class from me." Sounds similar.

[@MerchantIvoryfilms]

2:54 A normal brother relationship lol Such a good movie!

[@ethanrobbins5008]

I'm Ramses and Moses is my little brother in this scene

[@triz6229]

3:43 The way he slaps the slave's hand is a very interesting detail. Before realizing he was one of them, Moses also didn't care about the slaves and treated them badly. It's wonderful to see how he changed in the movie.

[@humps678]

I think that's an Egyptian servant, not a Hebrew slave.

[@dazaiosamusimp]

But it's still show disrespect about slaves in general if you watched the movie you would see that he learned to respect everyone no matter who they are ​@@humps678

[@charlesbrooks94]

“The weak link in the chain”... yeah, Ramses actually turned out to be arguably Ancient Egypt’s greatest Pharaoh.

[@Wandrative]

there were 11 ramsesses...

[@mightyshady1016]

@@Wandrative Ramsis II. There were so many because he was Ancient Egypt’s greatest Pharaoh. Egypt reached a high like never before and never after

[@Wandrative]

Mighty Shady Who doesn’t know that? Im replying to charles who is hinting that the Ramsess in the movie is ramsess ii, could be any other Ramses even if the biblical story is 100% true

[@Wandrative]

Mighty Shady Actually it is highly unlikely that it is Ramsess II. (Although the forefather is Seti in the bible). But there were also 3 Setis who became Pharaoh and two of them had sons called ramsess soo

[@mightyshady1016]

@@Wandrative I mean i would not call 50 50 highly unlikely. 2 setis with a ramsis as son. Makes this one either ramsis II or the other one. That aside tho Ramsis II reighned his whole life. There never were plagues. Some could say that this would exclude him from beeing the ramsis but others would answer that the bilblic story is made up anyway and took ramsis II because of his relevance as the greatest and grandest of all the pharaohs.

[@afifzahiruddinrohaizan52]

The only heart whelming scene of true brotherhood between Moses and Rameses before they became enemies.

[@leratohajie5893]

1:45 always been one of my favourite shots ❤️

[@EvonneLindiwe]

It’s so beautiful and the pharaoh and his sphinx matching up. 👌🏿

[@chickendrawsdogs3343]

Oh I love the old audio. The Bluray version has everyone's voice pitched or something, you can tell most clearly when Patrick Stewart and Val Kilmer spoke.

[@AmericPet]

Moses is Valkimer! Oh man! I did not see that! ❤️

[@AmericPet]

Val Kilmer*

[@Vi-ok8of]

Awww man I bought the download but I wanted the bluray disc. Thanks for the warning😅

[@EditorOfSL]

I just realised from watching this that the Royal Family, bar Moses, we’re all played by English actors, so this further shows that Moses was adopted because he speaks more like the Hebrew slaves than his parents and brother. (I know this is just because of the casting choices but it was a good move.)

[@nathancruz9172]

Me too and I still have this movie on 📀. In blu ray version of Shrek, they added the song background, when donkey sings I’m all alone.

[@madcat789]

"Yeah I can see it now, _there go the pyrmaids!"_ That line always stuck with me, hilarious.

[@Nicole-yw1dt]

Wonderful cartoon. Relationship ethics. The mother doesn't even need to say a lot for everyone to understand and that's so charming.

[@olihemming2299]

It’s painful to watch the movie in it’s later parts because Moses and Rammsees have such a great bond towards the beginning, but towards the end it goes the opposite way, Genuinely the greatest animated movie ever made due to it’s themes and characters

[@thirdcoinedge]

It's definitely up there as one of the best. Personally, I don't believe that any single film can hold that title, especially since new masterpieces always come out. So many contenders, why have the award only belong to one?

[@Prince_Oli]

Anyone else notice how Moses slaps away the servant? Idk why but it makes me laugh every time.

[@thelibragamine]

I always felt really sorry for the guy, knowing that servants get abused for the slightest things. It made me upset with Moses but you only do what you know

[@duyosiris6086]

Yeah he’s just send the servant away with one click - simple but fast

[@tamayako2000]

0:05 The fact that Ramses is the only one to flinch when Seti smacks his hand with the cane... that's so messed up

[@TokioTE]

Good attention to detail

[@zoemoskal9700]

Wow I never noticed that. Good observation! It really emphasises just how much Ramses craved his father’s approval so deeply 😢

[@knightofarkronia9968]

And it makes one wonder if Seti had ever hit Ramses at some point.

[@lilymorton1408]

1:43 I’m sorry, I had to point out the fact that his statue is just in the background, showing how powerful the Pharaoh is and how “perfect” he made his dynasty be, adding to the fact of why he’s hard On Ramses.

[@sophieje6039]

And then, later on, we see Ramses's statue in the background, dwarfing his father's in comparison.

[@little_ghosty1854]

And then both crumble to pieces under the weight of someone much more powerful than them

[@Alyrael]

I think it's more to represent that he is the kingdom of Egypt.

[@geeksandcooks]

Lol. Dad be like, don't be influenced by your brother so easily. Meanwhile, Moses makes the suggestion to give Ramsey a chance to prove himself and Pharoah is like, "Change my plans for the banquet we have a ceremony to celebrate!"

[@panama2468]

Lol good catch

[@mihah9415]

The movie is so unique ,i wish they can still make animations and stories like this

[@rebeccamichael626]

I wish they made more than just two.

[@mehnah5033]

​@@rebeccamichael626 Well... there's Joseph: King of Dreams 💁🏾

[@rebeccamichael626]

@@mehnah5033 - True, but I can think of multiple biblical stories that could've been made into movies.

[@mehnah5033]

@Rebecca Michael 💜🎗 True, true 🤔🤔🤔....

[@sumvivus6199]

I know, I miss 2d animation so much

[@jollygoodgordon5580]

i love how they made the egyptians dark skinned here, like they really were, the original egyptians.

[@virino7668]

Southern egyptians were dark, the rest looked like arabs, as did most north africans

[@jollygoodgordon5580]

@@virino7668 nonsense. When I say Egyptians u mean most of these, pharaohs etc. Basically the entire Egyptian empire consisted of people with dark skin. And I didn’t believe that most of North Africa were Arabs originally, how when it’s Africa ? I hope you realise that North Africa has been colonised by Arabs, and that’s the reason why the follo arab religion and Arab culture/language and have Arab blood.

[@virino7668]

@@jollygoodgordon5580 Yes I know they were colonised by arabs lol. Prior to this, they still looked much more similar to arabs than sub Sahara Africans. North Africa and Arabia were/are in close proximity to each other, so it would make sense for their inhabitants to look similar. Similarly, many western asians e.g Armenians, Georgians etc looks very similar to southern Europeans, as their countries are right next to teach other, despite being on different continents

[@thatromanguy1906]

@@virino7668 the Arabs didn't colonize Egypt until or invade until the 7th century edit: my english is not that good sorry if it doesn't make any sense

[@vitigaymer1053]

Egypt may be in Africa. But the pyramids are geographically closer to Israel than any other modern African country. The Pyramids are closer to Israel than modern Egypts own South and Eastern borders. The ancient Egyptians being semetic peoples make sense given that the earliest civilisations and Empires originated in the region just to its East.

[@륜법]

0:38 pharaoh look at moses generously 0:40 by contrast, pharaoh glare at ramses fiercely

[@Wolf10media]

Really illustrates how one views their children. The youngest is looked fondly and is often overlooked alleviating the burdens. Whilst the eldest is frowned on and pressured for they are viewed as the one to lead before the youngest. It's a raw look to how siblings often rival each other due to the fact of how the adult raises them.

[@panama2468]

@@Wolf10media well said.

[@clare2540]

the detail in the animation is stunning, like at 1:57 the water is shimmering/moving

[@TikiFoamy38]

5:57 She Cares Fun Fact: Depending on which you read, she did join him in the Exodus Also, please don't argue. I hate Biblical debates. We all learn. Make some mistakes. Please respect my knowledge.

[@DannyHsn]

that's cool

[@mr.husbandoeu7254]

Been 2 years and no arguments

[@adammorra3813]

@@mr.husbandoeu7254 ive been building my thesis and argument on this i hope your ready

[@mr.husbandoeu7254]

@@adammorra3813 aww yeah boi give it to me

[@marethyu_primo7638]

I mean, Pharaoh wasnt wrong, Ramses is fated to be the next leader of the nation, if you cant raise up a strong leader who sees the bigger picture then everything the former generation did to build things up will crumble to ash Which, ironically, thanks to Ramses not seeing past his own ego, is exactly what happened, he lost EVERYTHING, had he simply let them go he wouldnt have suffered the huge losses that HE brought on himself even though he was warned many MANY times about it 2:50 That foreshadowing though...

[@moisesdanielalvarado5578]

The Prince of Egypt is really well animated, this was the same one I saw when I was in a class in Elementary school the teacher showed it to me and the other classmates

[@TheHoneycomb5]

And they did the color of the people right. DreamWorks done their research unlike Cartoon nextwork 2023 Mummies 😂

[@VITAS874]

Simbad too. 😢

[@blackberry8615]

0:16 Such a beautiful shot..

[@tiannalewis7929]

Idc what anyone says, this movie is fantastic and it did not need to make Moses and Rameses this damn attractive.

[@dunkey759]

LMAOOO so true tho, like i just blindly watched the film when i was 9 cus younger me was mesmerised by the handsome prince (moses) on the cover ☠

[@koreancowboy42]

This scene shows many things. Even great rulers must do horrible things. Not everything is perfect in life

[@mhlib7569]

It’s the “great” leaders of empires that typically do horrible things

[@ManiyaVinas]

@@mhlib7569 I bet the Pharao was still pro-life

[@nate09392]

"must?" As if the pharoh had to kill Hebrew babies to keep the population at bay.

[@koreancowboy42]

​@@mhlib7569 exact they do, they hold Hierarchy, nobility, strength, respect, honor, and many things on their shoulders. To govern a large nation to control people and do bad things with good intentions for the state of their people. They must burden the blame and issues at hand which they understand responsibility. Even the Pharaoh says "Ramsay must not be led astray, not by anyone nor by Moses." Hence forth being a ruler, one must be wise and careful, but also responsible for the tasks needed.

[@RobotGlovesArt]

​@@koreancowboy42But that's the thing. They're doing it for the state of nobility, grandness and pride but sacrificing wellbeing of a group. And it becomes another thing when it isn't coming from a selfish feeling as expected, but it becomes so much of a tradition that it becomes a way of life. It allows disassociation so you have a ruler who is genuine good father do horrible thing by disassociating from the reality of the suffering of slaves and from the question is it worth it for an ancestor's pride.

[@victoriamartinez8288]

What Moses predicted it came true years later

[@BlackClaw2]

“Single handedly you will bring the greatest kingdom on earth to ruin!” Oh Moses if only you knew.

[@nathancruz9172]

I’m very happy 😃 I grew up watching the prince of Egypt as a kid and I’m born Christian ever since.

[@kylemenow1666]

Fun fact: the high priests to the Pharaoh were voiced by Martin and Martin.

[@divinelangene6813]

Whosw that

[@kylemenow1666]

@@divinelangene6813 Steve Martin and Martin Short

[@divinelangene6813]

@@kylemenow1666 ohhhhhh, ok

[@carlossoto1715]

Only Murders in the Temple *Building

[@ashlynwolff]

That brother chemistry is so real 😊 Mischievous troublemaker little brother Moses and reasonable down-to-earth big brother Ramses 3:13 Moses: you might as well 😏 Ramses: poured the whole jug of wine over priests as well with smile 😂😂😂😂 3:35 "Well in that case I suppose you care a lot than I do that we're gonna be late for the banquet for example?" *sly face* 😏 Ramses: *oh no* 😳 oh Moses you ... 😂🤣😂🤣😂 4:55 Can I just say that Hoteb and Hoy are best matchmakers in cartoon history? 😅😂

[@stephenbyrne2170]

"Father? You know it was really my fault. Must you be so hard on him?"

[@dynamiclizard1098]

Moses, you will never have to carry a burden like the crown I will pass to Ramases. He must not allow himself to be lead astray. Not even by you my son

[@stephenbyrne2170]

@@dynamiclizard1098 All he cares about is.....is your approval. I know he will live up to your expectations, he only needs the opportunity.

[@dynamiclizard1098]

Stephen Byrne Maybe. Maybe so. Go now. I shall see you both tonight

[@schelleluzius6527]

Well, that went well

[@joezilla0250]

@@schelleluzius6527 Just go away.

[@RentalManBuch]

I can see it now, there go the pyramids 😂

[@Travisbassbone0]

Ramises: You can laugh about it 😂

[@kaitlynvaughn5346]

Statues cracking and toppling over, the Nile drying up. Single handedly you will manage to bring the greatest kingdom on earth to ruin 😂😂😂

[@directrulefromgamerchair3947]

Funny he should say that, as Moses ended up destroying the kingdom just because a foreign god told him to. If anything this is a warning to the powerful about allowing people like Moses into positions of power

[@normalperson659]

@@directrulefromgamerchair3947 Victim blaming. Nice.

[@Alyrael]

@@normalperson659 I mean, he did.

[@Sisyphus27]

Although Moses is teasing Ramses when he talks of how Ramses will single-handedly bring Egypt to ruin, his prediction is later fulfilled when they are estranged from each other over the issue of freeing the Hebrews.

[@louisewestie989]

Moses loves and respects both parents. Despite not knowing that Moses isn’t his son, Pharaoh loves each boy equally, but is especially hard on Rameses as he is first born and the heir to his throne. “You will never have to carry a burden like the crown I shall pass to Rameses. He must not allow himself to be led astray.” Comment explains it all

[@Wolf10media]

".. Even by you."

[@zoemoskal9700]

Damn I never realised the Pharoh never knew Moses wasn’t his biological son!! 😮 how had I not realised that before 🤯

[@Soggys0up85]

God this was a gorgeous movie

[@lukedaley17]

The voice acting in this movie is brilliant.

[@clairdeloona]

2:22 i love this part, the lighting is just exquisite. moses stands closer to the light but still in shadow, showing his role in the story.

[@MrKingYuji]

I just noticed that Ramses is always associated with the color blue and Moses with the color red

[@sexyslim92]

I noticed that too

[@rlchamp7019]

Ramses literally is that guy at school to say "personally I would not take that level of disrespect"

[@ricvaladez2563]

We need more biblical films like this.

[@mirage_404]

No exaggeration, this has got to be one of the best (if not the best) American animated films created. The animation, story line (mostly accurate to scripture, and captivating) and music score are amazing.

[@littlet7653]

Agreed sista! ❤

[@BratzRockAngels]

I agree, I actually believe this is one of the greatest animated movies of a time.

[@TheJoeschmoe777]

"Singlehandedly, you will manage to bring the greatest kingdom on earth to ruin." That was a funny line but there was so much foreshadowing packed into it. Wow.

[@humps678]

This scene depicted the older sibling/younger sibling dynamic really well. No matter what trouble that's caused, the older sibling is always expected to "know better".

[@Vi-ok8of]

One of the things I love about this movie is we get to see what it might've looked like in ancient Egypt.😍

[@jazz9268]

Queen tuya is so elegant. Her posture, temper the way she holds herself and her voice.

[@hanbee8199]

Well putting other things on the side, Ramses and Moses brother relationship and dynamic in this movie is so touching. Like the time when they raced, when Moses tried to comfort Ramses though it end up with them getting late, their jokes and teases. There are so many scenes that shows how they love and respect each other. But my favorite would be when they reunited, the time that they hug. I think I cried at that scene lol

[@Aemilius46]

It's so Heartwarming how much they love Moses! Even when Moses was chosen by God, he hated doing it because this was his home, his family.

[@Eshkanama]

BE STILL! PHARAOH SPEAKS! Every time my kids talk back, I say this.

[@eadecamp]

😆

[@HalfafanD]

“There go the pyramids.” Moses you have NO IDEA.

[@clovebeans713]

The pyramids are still fine or am I missing something

[@HalfafanD]

@@clovebeans713 I’m basically referring to Moses unknowingly joking about their future of the entire dynasty falling apart in his brother’s pursuit of the Israelites. The pyramids was just a generalization of the joke as well an additional reference to a modern expression “there goes the neighborhood” which is an exclamation after a negative change affects someone's neighborhood. In this case, the pyramids being said neighborhood.

[@clovebeans713]

@@HalfafanD Oh ok, thought the plagues affected the pyramids or something, also irl didn't Rameses dynasty flourish under his rule or something like he is referred to Rameses the great.

[@HalfafanD]

@@clovebeans713 Keep in mind that in the Bible he’s only listed as “The Pharaoh” and they only made him Ramses at the time of the movie’s production at the time since research at that point led people to believe that the two were one and the same. It was later revealed that at least two mummies (including Ramses II) were tampered with and had parts stolen upon their initial study so it’s honestly hard to say which one it was assuming it was any of them. And these are only the corpses that were still preserved to this day. If the Pharaoh really did die in the ocean, there’d be hardly any body to recover. Again, assuming what remained of his people even dared into the Red Sea to bring their king home to be entombed. Now, that’s all circumstantial, but it is also explained that the reason they don’t mention a name and just his title is because this part of the Bible is written long after the events occur. And there wasn’t exactly a way to look up all the Pharaohs and their histories. So the author couldn’t figure out the name and therefore left it at just pharaoh. The other reason is because historically speaking there was evidence of certain pharaohs misrepresented themselves in their records found on monuments, temples, and burial chamber walls. Like forging evidence. So there could easily be inconsistencies on who was legit and who wasn’t, as well as all they’ve accomplished. However there is scientific evidence of the plagues actually happening so at least we have that. Sorry if I’m getting a little thesis-ish. This movie fascinates me not only on a story and animation level but on a historical level too.

[@TokioTE]

@@HalfafanD wow thanks for explaining the joke (I also didn't get it) and all this Biblical/historical detail, fascinating!!

[@Skyset_angel]

I find something new every time I watch this movie

[@blueskybelyr]

sometimes I think how wild it was we all watched this as kids, lmao. I used to watch this at my friend's house all the time, and we were like 7 or something

[@SeginusKaitos]

Talk about good voice acting. One weak link can break the chain of a mighty dynasty!he spit, with venom in his voice