Chess Cheating Guru Also Clears Hikaru

[@Frank7489]

So nice of Kramnik to provide Hikaru with all this content

[@jessesandburg]

Exactly what i was gonna say LOL

[@Josh-dm8uw]

Shut up frank

[@DS-nw4eq]

Hikaru and Kramnik are bros irl.

[@anakkecil-bq9vu]

Hes Itachi Uchiha

[@piratemercenaryhajrudin6893]

We need better anti cheating meassures. As i commented before, a free colonoscopy aka medical Checks before OTB Games should be a must Kramnik should be first to demonstrate it

[@dandymcgee]

I don't think "most of the chess world applauded" is an accurate description of the streak. Literally nobody cared about the streak until Kramnik brought it up, because there was nothing, and still is nothing, significant or interesting about the streak, other than Hikaru is good at chess.

[@jeffn9952]

I haven't stopped applauding since the streak occurred. People are looking at me funny and my friends pretend they don't know me.

[@RDTRNT]

@@jeffn9952 take care of your palms, use moisturizing creme if necessary! And don't care about what others think, this is worthy of applaude!

[@Symbioticism]

Levy did make a video about it, but yeah, pretty OTT statement in the article. A bit sloppy over all tbh.

[@LagMasterSam]

RIP you hands@@jeffn9952

[@brandonkheuser]

Hans Neiman accused of cheating: Gets lawyer Hikaru accused of cheating: continues destroying chess players for fun

[@xerikl]

Because Hans was guilty and Hikaru is not

[@Art.20Abs.4GG]

If you wanted to state, that "only guilty people get themselves lawyers", then I'd 1000% disagree.

[@leagueaddict8357]

Hans just wasn't very smart about it Hikaru can pretty much just point out why it is ridiculous as he streams most of the Chess games he plays online, so if you think he was cheating you could actually look up that very stream, and see his moves he very often says something about them too like attacking on x side or another generalization that explains how he can come up with a lot of moves so, therefore, it is very difficult to believe Hikaru would be cheating which I can't rule out 100%, but he has been a very strong player for very long, and with him recording himself, explaining moves it is as close to being sure that he has never cheated you could possibly be unless you are standing directly behind him for his all his streams, but it becomes kinda ridiculous at that point you might as well start saying you had aliens visiting you, to everyone you would look the same whether it is about Hikaru cheating or Aliens it's not really something believable.

[@brandonkheuser]

@@Art.20Abs.4GG it was how Hans handled it compared to Hikaru. They both are giving it publicity, but Hikaru is actually letting chess speak for itself

[@Art.20Abs.4GG]

@@brandonkheuser Yeye makes sense I just thought I had to speak up against the statement of "lawyer = guilty".. The TV show Hans visited with his lawyer was hilarious

[@TheRandombk]

The Kramnik midlife crisis variation of the cheater's gambit really getting a lot of in-depth analysis these days

[@Frank7489]

Dubious line if you ask me

[@edmoala]

W comment

[@memereview1337]

Tax refugee money in Switzerland is gettin tight.

[@MorningNapalm]

Kramnik, just buy a Porsche, for f*cks sake. No one needs this.

[@godfreyofbouillon966]

These comments are priceless

[@johnlicciardello2389]

Kramnik’s allegation opening was very weak, and he totally crumbled in his mid-game. Never even made it to an end game.

[@knownas2017]

Overall I'd give it a 300 elo performance.

[@thebirdhasbeencharged]

Naka unsettled him with an unconventional opening

[@JillHampton-dr1yb]

By middle game checkmate or resignation though?

[@knownas2017]

@@JillHampton-dr1yb flagged, timeout. Lol

[@evil4d]

Cheating accusations aside, I think it would be really cool to see Hikaru play with a camera from behind him, showing his mouse skills and how fast and instinctive he is with his removes and how he does all the arrows stuff. That would be a great video to watch.

[@pct4to]

he has used a mouse cam before

[@bashy8466]

He even tried using an eye tracker which was really cool but it sometimes wigged out

[@carnivalism1042]

​@@pct4toyeah, but it would be cooler now that a certain delulu is calling Hikaru out

[@DeadSezSo]

Chesscoms youtube account actually put out a video a couple of days ago where they got a sort of tour in hikarus office and the interviewer showed that the fair play camera is always angled behind and to the side of hikaru videotaping every move he makes with the mouse

[@evil4d]

@@DeadSezSo yeah I seen the tour, that part made me think it would be really cool (not gonna say "interesting") to see a behind the scenes video, especially as others said with the drama going on.

[@augustinetong128]

I will say this. Over the past few years, Hikaru seems to have hit a "second prime" and has been climbing the rankings in classical chess again, let alone all formats of competitive chess. To some top players like Kramnik, who mostly only had a single prime, it may seem very strange and even suspicious. However, if you notice, this "second prime" actually coincides with Hikaru's online streaming career booming over the past few years. It is my conclusion that, in order not to disappoint his growing audience and his main source of income, Hikaru has subconsciously been pushing himself to the best of his ability, which is making him attain levels close to that of his "first prime" when he was the Number 2 player in the world.

[@donsolos]

Could be many things. His streaming income must take a lot of stress off his life and the necessity to perform well at tournaments for income. He is likely happier/more fulfilled now than he has ever been. His spot in chess has been solidified regardless of his performances because everybody seems to like hikaru

[@איתןשי]

This has very interesting comparisons with Dr Emmanuel Lasker who was the other player to have 2 primes

[@donsolos]

@@איתןשי I listened to magnussen carlsen on Alex friedmans podcast today and he self described his career as having 2 peaks

[@ogheneochukooputu9725]

This is true. Hikaru plays far more chess than the top 5 players combined, and you cannot count that as unimportant, even in a classical match.

[@mohan9465]

kramnik had second prime and he became world no 2 as well in 2017-18

[@hesido]

"Furiosly denied" followed by the cutest hikaru screen shot lol.

[@knownas2017]

1:20 for anyone wondering

[@philljenner4045]

If Kramnik is talking to 'his lawyers' I hope they're telling him to stop being a dick.

[@tldreview]

I can't believe Kramnik actually pulled off a cheater's gambit accepted, that line _never_ sees play. It's kinda backfiring though, let's see if he finds some interesting tactical lanes and is able to transition into an advantageous endgame

[@dragoncholo4447]

😂

[@gabrielcarreno3586]

Lmao only stockfish knows how this game ends 😂

[@ugglorimossen]

@@gabrielcarreno3586 if you ask Kramnik himself, Nakamura would also know that 🙃

[@mariaanmo]

Lmaaaoooo

[@lesebasti]

Nah, the elo bar is -10 for Kramnik already, he doesn't have any chances to win at this point

[@Karn0010]

With Kramnik giving you this gift, you will be worth $50million soon!

[@heimerblaster976]

As chess players grow older they ether go quietly into the night or the go Bobby Fischer. I guess Kramnik went Bobby Fischer.

[@jorgechavesfilho]

In human history, stupidity has a glorious past and a promising future.

[@Peppy-n2s]

If I was a streamer I would be riding this wave too. Naka didn't start it, this came to him.

[@איתןשי]

I think you mean Naga 🤣

[@NVDumpit]

exactly 😂

[@DaaimShabazz]

Well... he was at the point of the controversy last year, which has spiraled into what we see now.

[@TheRealPunkachu]

There is flatly not any evidence that even remotely suggests Hikaru cheated. Being good at the game is not suspicious. This whole controversy is just dumb and has no reason to exist.

[@MIDO44444]

This controversy is doing nothing but make Hikaru more famous and damage Kramniks reputation so ggs

[@jeffn9952]

First I thought Kramnik was just trolling, but he might be mentally ill and he's serious about the accusation. Something is up, because he's more intelligent than this.

[@leagueaddict8357]

He is an older man, he simply doesn't understand a lot of things PC related, I don't think he is trolling just stupid as a lot of people are these days.,@@jeffn9952

[@Wtahc]

being good at the game is suspicious

[@Wtahc]

@@jeffn9952 hes not more intelligent than this

[@MyGSunny]

calling kramnik hikarus rival is being generous

[@albertosapori5977]

Kramnik did beat Kasparov and became world champion, Nakamura has been never close to become.

[@MyGSunny]

@@albertosapori5977 he was good for his time. I’m not trying to deny that. The top players are in a totally different league. Kramilk himself even said as much during his many interviews. We are in a whole new world of chess! The player are better, computers are faster the assholes are wider and the butt plugs are smaller.

[@MyGSunny]

If Kramnik play 46 games aganist Hikaru, Hikaru will make him is female dog. Statistically speaking

[@joshuahietala5174]

@@albertosapori5977 Hikaru has higher peak rating than Kramnik and he has played in candidates. Plus Hikaru is 5 time US champion and he has multiple podiums in world rapid and blitz, so he hasn't yet become a world champion, but he still have few nice wins.

[@MorningNapalm]

Both are highly accomplished, I don't think it is so strange. I am guessing that Hikaru would win in all fast formats, but Kramnik would win in classical chess.

[@0nkw]

Hikaru played the cheat's gambit despite never having played it before, I think many would find this interesting.

[@nb-eq6rw]

Huh? I'm retard

[@bengold8816]

KRAMNIKS self obsessions is baffling. He is so soft skinned regardig his reputation yet had no problem damaging Hikaro's. Come on, how can you be so self centered?

[@godfreyofbouillon966]

narcissism plus midlife crisis is helluva combination.

[@bipolarminddroppings]

The best thing about online chess is that a 12 year old savant can just play against Hikaru every day. Imagine a 12 year old Bobby Fisher having access to all the best GMs in the world, every single day...

[@anakkecil-bq9vu]

Fischer is already god in his era he literally beat a country and not some country but strongest country at that era

[@lane9234]

Magnus about to go 45.5/46 on Tuesday to show everyone what’s what

[@wyattcrosby9558]

Looks like Vladamir Kramnik is gonna sue the Independent next

[@mudmug1]

And then Reality for defamation

[@madjoe8622]

Kramnik looks less stable than Fischer

[@legueu]

ouch

[@dandymcgee]

The real question is: How much is Hikaru paying Kramnik to post all this free content for us?

[@mekillu05]

Kramnik is developing that Putin/Stalin kind of Russian madness.. it's a shame

[@---Vector]

I think this is more of a calculated smear campaign against Hikaru ahead of the Candidates Tournament. To support his Russian compatriot Nepo, potentially knocking down his formidable rival.

[@skyrimdovah420]

I still think it's funny that bro thinks that you cheated in 3 minute games while streaming and explaining moves the entire time😂😂😂 got 180 seconds, if it takes 5 seconds per move to cheat, you have a max 36 moves... completely ridiculous

[@St0neByte]

Yeah but you haven't even considered anal beads

[@freeEnd_]

I see what you mean, but for players around that lvl it is enough to cheat 1-2 moves in a game where the position is very hard. I dont mean he is cheating, i say that he doesnt need to cheat from move 1 to move 36

[@ahsa_yt]

Kramnik is showing us that even a great chess player can behave amazingly illogical. Instead of apologizing to Naka after clearly accusing him of cheating, all Kramnik has done is to victimize himself.

[@Elrog3]

They are just people after all.

[@MrPerrisC]

It looks like Kramnik became friends with Hanns, I believe this entire "accusation" is some kind vendetta against Hikaru

[@SilverSlayer]

Imagine being so good at Chess that even a GM thinks you’re cheating regardless of all the evidence showing otherwise.

[@Velisatra]

Does the Independent not have editors that so much as proofread articles before they go live? How embarrassing, so many blatant errors.

[@thefaithfulcitizen]

❤

[@ryanrodriguez7664]

They said Thursday the 29th. It was yesterday which is *Wednesday* the 29th.

[@bpa1055]

"...I would accuse myself of cheating..."😂😂

[@91loganator]

Hikaru milking this like a dairy farmer, and I’m loving every second of it

[@JeremyRobertWalker]

Kramnik is what happens when Psychosis goes untreated.

[@MrDocninja]

It is called the „ Kramnik-Syndrome“: a disease of Ego driven, untreated psychosis with selfdestructive components and symptoms of jealousy, typically appears in midlife crisis 😂

[@---Vector]

This is typically Russian psychosis, accusing everyone around you of what you are doing/have done.

[@jacobmccain8082]

I read Nepo's post more as "Love what youre doing (hero we need), but youre way off here.(not the one it needs right now)" But who knows..

[@nemeczek67]

The games from the Kramnik-Topalov match should be reviewed using modern tools.

[@Healing.Tortruer]

Hikaru must have destroyed Kramnik’s alt account.

[@ChessHistorian]

If I were a top chess pro with another top chess pro friend, I'd call them to ask if they wanted me to accuse them of wildly cheating just so they could get a month of free hype content. then after a month I'd retract my accusation and ask for a 20% cut. Bad journalists don't deserve respect.

[@joshuahietala5174]

Nobody: Somebody in Hikaru's chat: Pikachu Kamasutra

[@quacxks100]

Kramnik went for the cancellation gambit but didn't realize he fell STRAIGHT into Hikaru's own content gambit, Hikaru overall raising his streamer ELO

[@Hiitsmerobyn]

Can we stop calling it a scandal and call it what it really is? “Old crazy man screams at the sky”

[@kaidoChess]

2:48 by the way he said this you can tell he listens to audit the audit lol

[@Ishmonkey]

There's a discussion to be had about farming players you know you can beat to boost your elo but instead of having that we're having one about absurd accusations of cheating

[@ogheneochukooputu9725]

I always wondered what I would do without Hikaru's videos. Now, I am wondering what I would do without Kramnik's content. 😂

[@HowThatHappen]

14:20 "you either have hard evidence or you're tainting someone's career" they're basically saying if Kramnik doesn't have hard evidence he's defaming Hikaru

[@musical_lolu4811]

No shit

[@Imrandela1920]

Hikaru's Thumbnail Nowadays --- Kramnik Kramnik Kramnik 😂

[@Intelligenzbestie]

"Most of the chess world applauded".. more like most didnt even notice, let alone care. So typical of the media

[@leom179]

46-0 boutta make it 47-0 after all this drama with the man child

[@freeEnd_]

29 0 0 Khabib clearly cheated, he had aimbot, it's statistically impossible to get 29 wins in a pro mma league

[@messegang7367]

At this point , Hikaru and Kramnik should just play against each other😭

[@spinninglink]

Best of 5 over the board lol

[@Frank7489]

Yeah, get a hotel room and play all night long

[@dominiquelaurain6427]

I like that very old clever way for concluding wars : your champion against my champion, in a garage with two chairs, two computers, a local network,half naked ...and no audience. Only sweat and tears. Cannot cheat.

[@MrDocninja]

Chess boxing!😂

[@thomasgriessnig1987]

but what time control?? I guess we all agree that everything under 10-15min would be too onesided and boring .... i mean its hikaru against an retired classical world champ, classical... Big Vlad is not known for beeing a speedchessmonster, he never was... no disrepect

[@Wopple]

"Nakamura creates the stickiest wicket" lol

[@איתןשי]

As a cricket fan this is actually a great analogy

[@sailor5853]

Hikaru never fails to create the stickiest wicket.

[@freeEnd_]

AHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[@AlwaysAudacity]

Omg, Kramnik is hallucinating!

[@JeremyRobertWalker]

Kramnik is an amazing example of washed-up.

[@cuh720]

Kramnik needs to be kicked out of the chess Community

[@daveinuk9845]

16th Century sport gets a shout out on a GM Hikaru stream..... impressive.

[@DaviniaHill]

The article is not throwing shade at Levy by only using his handle, that is the paper's house style. And at the end of the article is an email for any corrections, you are free to submit them.

[@gladosadoree]

At least Fischer went insane silently.

[@thomasgriessnig1987]

face to face chess match or at least chessboxing 😅😅 even though Vlad is like half a meter taller than Hikaru !! this would look so awsome if these two chessbox eachother

[@freeEnd_]

Thats what i thought. They are just hyping up a PPV chessboxing event

[@davidgriffiths7696]

A nice off ramp for the old guy. Time to swallow humble pie, up stumps and retire to the pavilion, to employ a cricketing metaphor.

[@migmig9406]

Apparantly Nagamura is : Paulo Roberto Corradi Nagamura is a Brazilian former professional footballer and coach It would be funny if Hikaru wear Nagamura's football shirt

[@higgledypiggledycubledy8899]

Hikaru "Sticky Wicket" Nakamura

[@inplfw]

While Hikaru had denied the allegations, in my expert opinion he did not "furiously" deny them. I've seen every movie in the Fast and Furious franchise at least once, so I'm pretty much a lead expert in the field of Furious.

[@elijahhang9986]

Kramnik is going full Kramnik. Never go full Kramnik smh!

[@ShubhamKumar-fn9cl]

Didn't see much of a difference when the person himself sends "stop cheating" messages to GM Arjun😂

[@Plexippuspetersi92]

This scandal is such a nothing burger even the article pivoted to Niemann-Carlsen debacle halfway through

[@jasoncrawford5417]

I love you, Hikaru. That being said, it made me laugh when you said you were wearing a $50 shirt as evidence that you weren't a $50-millionaire. I wish I could afford $50 shirts casually. I wouldn't BUY them, you see; I just wish I had the kind of money to make it possible.

[@איתןשי]

Anyone who thinks Hikaru is the richest player has forgotten the Egyptian GM who runs a pharmaceutical company

[@afc358]

Maybe his marriage is in trouble and it's tipped him over the edge? Hikaru is his punching bag after his wife decided to move on up?

[@lukeflanagan9247]

"I would accuse myself of cheating if i did that in title tuesday" hahahaha I fucking love you dude, you have made me laugh through all this nonsense going around

[@nohvis4435]

Either cheating is running rampant in chess or GMs have the most fragile egos known to men.

[@erichgerber251]

Kramnik says: “In my days we lost games with dignity. I myself was famous for a 56 winning streak against Elbrus, Russian super computer of 1989”

[@zaccelisha2407]

Kramnik obviously has never watched your stream

[@rudyn4865]

Trolling a former world chess champion online generates Mr. Ananas extra click's. I don't understand why Kramnik keeps rubbing in a stain.

[@aml7758]

Niemann cheated online when he was an unknown child and because he wanted to win Title Tuesday. Hikaru is the most famous online chess player on the planet and he wins tournaments by tournaments. Why the heck he would cheat the leisure games against unknown IMs???

[@omarcos3228]

Hikaru finally admits he is Speedosourus Rex.

[@strategygaming5830]

Also the most major factor of evidence that is overlooked by Kramniks accusation is that in many of the games Hikaru was losing because he was playing Risky positions or blundered but his time pressure and tricky play style allowed him to win almost every single game. Which is why when analyzed in actual accuracy it is obvious that Hikaru was playing normally and not extremely accurate every game.

[@hero0fcanton190]

I still don't get how Hikaru can be that good at chess and still have a good personality!

[@LagMasterSam]

Proof that HIkaru cheated at life!

[@WorldChessComunity-gh3xx]

keep moving forward in your achievements and providing interesting entertainment, Sir Nakamura. don't pay attention to accusations of cheating. This incident made you more famous. we support you sir

[@poisonhemlock]

You might consider talking to a lawyer yourself, if this libel continues.

[@80-80.]

I almost feel a little sorry for Kramnik, but since he represents Russia, I don't really mind him weakening Russia as a chess nation.

[@wZem]

I'm starting a petition to investigate Magnus Carlsen. His performance over the last decade has been too good. We all know nobody is better than chess world champion Vladimir Kramnik, so how come Magnus is number one? Very interesting.

[@mrityunjaykumar4202]

the editor of this report is slightly misinformed about cricket. Actually he is referring here to the pitch not the wicket.The Pitch is portion of the ground where the ball is supposed to be thrown and the batsman hits it.

[@freeEnd_]

Ofc punjabi man would know

[@giggitygoo5623]

At this point being accused of cheating is a profitable business. So I would like to proudly announce that I have cheated on my wife several times sometimes with no Stockfish involved

[@kenanbanks2984]

HIkaru and Kramnik should just sell tickets to a 12 game OTB match. Hikaru would win easily but I'd buy PPV tickets.

[@freeEnd_]

Chessbox PPV Hikaru VS Kramnik😲😲

[@sivasatyanb]

Thanks for keeping us with the up to date clickbait titles 😉

[@RealityCheck1]

Let's not forget that Hikaru is a chess prodigy. A prodigy doesn't need to cheat in order for him to win. Prodigy = Talent. Before you accuse someone of cheating, make sure you are yourself a prodigy.

[@Joe-og6br]

You do realise Kramnik beat Kasparov in the World Chess Championship? And won it 2 other times.... He's achieved far more than Hikaru.

[@shub_2146]

You made atleast a million bucks after accusing hans of cheating without any proof.

[@SaurabhHooda1]

1:31 Deep inside u r happy that u wore a new tshirt that day to get featured on a blog 🥰

[@sruththine3689]

If Nakamura ever cheated he will become even richer by teaching how to cheat with such a style

[@jaylebron777]

In reflecting upon the controversy surrounding Hikaru Nakamura and the allegations of online chess misconduct, I am drawn to the complexities of human perception and competition. In my younger years, when engaged in video games, the sting of defeat often led to the suspicion that my opponents were utilizing some form of subterfuge or secret knowledge. Translating this to Nakamura's scenario, it's conceivable that his extraordinary prowess is often mistaken for cheating. Yet, this is not subversion of the rules but rather an exemplification of mastery. What we're witnessing in Nakamura's case is the result of a lifelong commitment to excellence in his craft, a journey that has equipped him with an arsenal of strategies and insights. This situation underscores a broader theme in competitive endeavors, whether in sports, arts, or intellectual pursuits. There are individuals whose level of skill and dedication elevates them to a plane that appears almost superhuman. This phenomenon challenges our understanding of the limits of human capability and often brings with it a sense of awe and, at times, incredulity. It is a reminder of the extraordinary potential that lies within the pursuit of any discipline with depth, commitment, and passion.

[@finleyrosebud5791]

Good luck suing The Independent Vlad.

[@finleyrosebud5791]

16:00 onwards when he realises it's a quote from himself....

[@theinternetseekers2436]

Nick pick here Kramnik will be pissed the title doesn't even name him but does Naka. LMAO PERFECT!

[@theinternetseekers2436]

Haha and the journalist mispels Kramnik between two correct spellings. Ouch.

[@narkfly]

I don't have any other alternative keyboard layouts in front of me, but on the ISRT layout the G and K keys are right on top of each other - on an inside column of the index finger, with G being easier to hit than K. With that said, the journalism on display could benefit from some much needed editing.

[@wlzy]

the LotR chain gives naka superpowers to make his opponents blunder

[@too-many-phils]

that article was actually pretty bad. All over the place, lacked any focus. Felt like it tried to fit as many popular names and references as it could for clickability

[@williamkolina3988]

I would love to see naka kramnik match over the board

[@Truffle_Pup]

Kramnik: Hikaru bad. Trust me bro. Hikaru: Ok you guys... It's pay day! 💰💰💰🤑🤑🤑💸💸💸

[@danny208YT]

Yo Naka does talk 100mph hour 😂😂 I started losing track of what was going on when Naka would go on these tangents. But the Tldr is Naka didn't cheat and kramnik has early onset dementia. Even Naka haters are saying they know he didn't cheat. Naka is just better

[@איתןשי]

I think you mean Naga :)

[@Littledunc1]

Why dont we see Kramnick vs Hikaru play a bunch of blitz games in person or in an online streamed event. They can even swap PC's half way through and Hikaru can fist him?

[@zenflare]

Kramnik shouldn't be singling you out. I would definitely say cheating could be involved if the 46 winning streak in blitz occurred against Magnus Carlsen.

[@shinyam75]

What if Magnus Carlsen was high on cocaine?

[@antalkarolyi]

Levy stated multiple times how the previous scandal helped him grow the channel. Kramnik is making a huge favour to Hikaru.

[@chesneytube1]

Chess cheating scandals are my new favourite genre.