I just towed my 7000lb camper through the Appalachian mtns last week. 3.0 duramax. It just ripped up those hills. So impressed. Also ripped through def. That sucked.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
I want to test the 3L duramax out so badly. heard great things.
@KeystoneTexanАй бұрын
What year is your truck?
@79championsАй бұрын
@@KeystoneTexan I have a 22 pre-refresh. I was fortunate to find it in the truck madness a few years ago.
@slickcasner4205Ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventuresTry and get a MaxTow LZ0 3.0. They are super impressive. I have one. It will loaded at 9k it will maintains speed better than my old 6.2. For a diesel, it will wing some RPMs be prepared for that.
@KeystoneTexanАй бұрын
@@79champions nice! I want a new GMC Sierra AT4 with the 3 L Duramax diesel. But I’m not willing to give up my 2018 Toyota Tundra or pay those high prices.
@daveharris39Ай бұрын
My take on it is this: Honestly, ask yourself how often and how heavy you tow. If I had an 8000 lb (or heavier) enclosed trailer that I towed regularly, I would buy a 2500. If I towed a 3000 to 5000 lb trailer every day I'd go with a 1500 with a V8. If I only tow a small or light trailer occasionally, the 2.7T is fine. When it comes to towing, it's not so much about fuel mileage as it is safety; it's safer to have more truck than not enough truck.
@Derham43Ай бұрын
I whole heartily agree with you, and my Chevy has the 2.7 turbomax.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
100% agree, I use this trailer to load down these 1500's and see how these engines handle a heavy load. If I was towing this regularly a 2500 would be my choice.
@qwikz28Ай бұрын
So the question I would have then is what if you were towing a heavy trailer occasionally? I tow a 6000-6500 pound car trailer a few times a year and it's a bit sketchy with my Jeep Grand Cherokee L.
@TheGingerBread827Ай бұрын
@@qwikz28I’d upgrade to a 1500, it would definitely be happier pulling that than a jeep.
@qwikz28Ай бұрын
@@TheGingerBread827 2500 would obviously be better, but not necessary for an occasional pull, right?
@edan7813Ай бұрын
The 6.2 and 3.0 Duramax need to be tested with this trailer on this loop. I can only imagine how well those engines will do
@karlschauff7989Ай бұрын
The 3.0 with NHT max tow package.
@nq2847Ай бұрын
I agree.
@genehart261Ай бұрын
@@nq2847 A friend just bought a 3.0 Duramax after test driving EVERYTHING else. Awesome engine!
@southsidetomАй бұрын
I agree! If this dude is wanting to compare max torque powerplants against each other then "it's go time!".
@seahalk1Ай бұрын
The V8 all day long
@nathanvande2501Ай бұрын
Gotta remember that 2.7 is geared lower and has 2 less transmission gears. Give it a 10speed and 3.23’s. It will be at the same rpms that the 5.3 is at.
@ews360Ай бұрын
I've owned a few new 5.3 trucks (2001 - 285 horse /325 torque. 2006 - 295/335, 2016 - 355/383). Bought new 2023 Silverado Custom Crew 4X4 2.7 (310/430) 9 months ago. 8,000 satisfied miles later, finally towed our 2009 Rockwood travel trailer (33' & 6k lbs dry) for annual camp trip. 90 mile journey on mostly 2 lanes - flat - 55 mph limit roads. Never over 4,000 rpm's. Accelerated normally, shifted @ 3,000 rpm's, settled @ 60 mph @ 2,000 rpm's. 9.6 mpg w/ 87 octane gasoline. Guessing 1,000 lbs of food/water/beer/gear in camper & 500 lbs of firewood in truck bed. Perfect drivetrain for me. Tow a few times a year locally, similar payload/tow rating as V8, about 3 better mpg overall, $6k less. No regret choice for me, perhaps not for you.
@wisco1225Ай бұрын
Love what you are doing with these tests. Very good info. Excited to see the 6.2. Also would love to see the 5.7 Hemi and new Hurricane. Also. A website with all your test results! Then bring on the HD and midsize tests!! Thank you!
@kokoshadowstryder9020Ай бұрын
One upside to various engine platforms that have been around for decades tends to be within the parts availability realm, be that new parts, aftermarket parts or parts from a salvage yard.
@reedjohnson7275Ай бұрын
Is the 3.0 dmax next?
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
I would love to get the 3L on my course! my truck supplier only has 1 in their fleet and its hard to get my hands on it.
@andresniederhofer8602Ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventuresI have a 3.0 Silverado and it pulls my 24 5500 pound camper like a dream.
@bjack6084Ай бұрын
Love your videos, buddy. I appreciate your perspective from a diesel mechanic. Keep them coming.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
Appreciate it sir!
@gtrance3567Ай бұрын
Great videos! Friendly reminder, the 2.7 is meant to replace the old v6, and is the base engine. Perfect daily driver! (Also no lifters!)Thank you!
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
I guess that is the ultimate compliment that it can be compared to the V8. for a base engine it is punching well above its weight!
@frank23103Ай бұрын
I have a 2022 Trail boss with 5.3 and 10 speed. I tow 3500 once a month or so. Truck handles it fine. On the hills it revs to 4k... I personally wouldn’t tow more than 6k pounds max in this configuration. Anything more I would buy a 2500.
@mikebutler8043Ай бұрын
Awesome video. Keep it going love v8 s Hard to believe we live in a time where a 4cly is in full size trucks
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
the 2.7L is not a bad little engine but for towing a heavy load its probably not the best choice lol
@TwizztifyАй бұрын
The 2.7 is for everyday driving and for light duty towing only. Leave it to the v8’s for real work and longevity.
@michaelc.4965Ай бұрын
100% right!
@Lq32332Ай бұрын
Ah yes the longevity of GM V8’s and their lifters. 😂 At least they give the Turbomax a 100k mile warranty- while the V8’s only get 60k…. Lifters and cams are expensive to fix and they don’t want to be on the hook.
@stevebeard766713 күн бұрын
Agree the 4 will be much more stressed over time than the 8 If it's worked hard.
@michaeljones77356 күн бұрын
Thanks for a great informative video. On one hand, to wring performance almost the same as the 5.3 with essentially half the engine is pretty impressive. Different engines for different owners. My trailers top out at 5,000-6,000 lbs max, so the 2.7 works for me, if not for anyone else. It replaces a 3.0 liter diesel and has slightly more power and slightly more fuel consumption. Having dragged my heaviest trailer all over the US with that diesel, I knew the 2.7 would work for me, and it has.
@JDC129Ай бұрын
2.7l was never meant to be the engine choice for towing. At least not consistently or on long distances. The 2.7l was designed for a light duty work truck or daily driver to HD(90%) of truck owners these days. GM does a great job of engine choices to match your need. I am honestly surprised they haven’t deleted the 5.3l with the 6.2 and 3.0 Duramax available for max payload and towing.
@stephenwilson2504Ай бұрын
How about a head to head 2.7 vs 2.7. Ford vs Chevy
@sabastian4858Ай бұрын
They both suck.
@dd5744Ай бұрын
Now you need the Ram 3.0 inline 6 hurricane. Standard and high output.
@hendo337Ай бұрын
I have been saying for 10 years now, since they came out with the new 4.3L V6, that they should be using the same 3.921" piston in the base V8 making a 350ci 5.7L V8 to match the 5.7 Hemi and 5.0L Coyote more closely, especially since they came out with the 6.6L in HD trucks now, they could have made a 5.7L base V8 and put the L8T crank in the 6.2L aluminum block to offer a 6.6L option in 1/2 tons. They could have even sold a 5.7L in 3/4-1T Express vans and W/T pickups. Huge missed opportunity.
@DH-hp7nvАй бұрын
Good video Alex. So i have a company vehicle that is a 2019 with the 5.3. It uses the active fuel management system, not the newer dynamic fuel management, but it still sucks. Could you imagine, If GM would get rid of all the fuel management systems and just give us a v8, both 5.3 and 6.2 would be good buys.
@TheCarterManАй бұрын
I have the 2.7 TurboMax in my 23 Canyon AT4 and the transmission temp stays in the 200-210 range for everything. Great video.
@BradyReadingАй бұрын
Same in my 23 Colorado. 195-210 temp range pretty much regardless of what I do.
@calebferguson3930Ай бұрын
The 6l80 and 8l90 both usually have a fluid cooler thermostat which regulates cooler flow much like an engine coolant thermostat. As far as the 10 speed I'm not sure.
@alars2847Ай бұрын
The 8 speed transmission in My ‘21 Canyon 3.6 V6 pulling a 6000# travel trailer up a 6% grade in 95 degree F runs around 192 F and 172 on level ground, in 95 F outside temp. Yep, A/C is on.
@calebferguson3930Ай бұрын
@@alars2847 yours is probably a model without the thermostat.
@MCatwarАй бұрын
honestly, for probably 70% ish of half ton truck owners, they’re never gonna pull loads like this. the fact the 2.7 can in a pinch is what matters. hell, for people consistently pulling that heavy they’re prolly gonna go 3/4 ton anyways!
@ericj810Ай бұрын
I've pulled 8500lbs on a run in a 2.7 chevy. It did just fine. Held 60 up the mountains at 3800rpms with the enclosed trailer with that weight. Its a good engine. Travel trailer people love it over the 5.3 on the forums.
@mikefromvernonАй бұрын
That turbo 4 sounded like it was going to tear itself apart under load. They might be fine for smaller cars but when it comes to heavy loads like an 8000lb trailer I'll take the V8. That did not sound like it was going to explode from putting too much pressure in the engine.
@ondago2Ай бұрын
Such a common pre bias confirmation. Pressure in an engine, which you call out is always when lugging and engine. Spinning faster and moving less cylinders might sound more generic and the friction is higher with more rpm but the"pressure" in the engine is likely lower because it has apparently dropped gears for easier loading on the engine. A new modern engine can survive years and years old occasionally screening up a hill. Even when they are 10 mile long grades, it's only a few minutes in the hundreds of life hours of the engine. It's not going to actually come apart from running 5000 rpm for he minutes. I really wish folks would stop perpetuating biased stereotypes about what are just machines. Whatever rpm it takes to make the needed tractive effort for the load, at that speed and gear is just what it takes. The engine brand new and for a decade or more, can take it just fine.
@FredRTP96Ай бұрын
Biased much… ? The 4 cylinder is far more rugged being forged motor and sharing components and design as l5p
@RJ-hv6frАй бұрын
Longevity...which engine will make it to 300k with basic maintenance. Turbo gas engine or NA 4, 6, or 8? Pretty clear answer there.
@hg2blackcat41128 күн бұрын
The 5.3 would be the first to die with them lifters 😂😂😂 @RJ-hv6fr
@icare7151Ай бұрын
Try 11,000 ft above sea level. Seeing gasoline v6 turbos, I4 turbos overheating all the time here in Colorado Rocky Mountains while towing. V8s gas not typically NOT overheating while towing here in Colorado Rocky Mountains.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
it does seem like the V8's just handle workload better.
@Chris-ut6eqАй бұрын
Interesting, this is not something the YT truck channels talk about. I've not done much towing above 5k.
@charlesb4267Ай бұрын
That is very interesting, I've not heard anyone mention this before and yet I have to wonder if it has to do with the fact that a boosted induction engine tends to retain a lot more of its sea level power over a naturally aspirated engine. Without a doubt an n/a gas engine has a fair reduction in power output at 11000 feet and less power output should equate to less generated heat ?. Conversely a forced induction engine will cram in the air into the cylinders to get good power but the air density flowing through the rad will be less and I believe equates to less cooling the higher the altitude, for a given ambient temperature of course. I was never towing anything when I did any driving while exploring Colorado and was quite happy NOT to have a boat anchor behind me to fail the engine or weak tranny of the truck I was driving.
@icare7151Ай бұрын
@@charlesb4267 Heat kills turbos and engines. There is 10% less oxygen per volume per 1000’. Thus at high altitude there is less oxygen, less dense “air” turbos must work really hard to make up the difference and produce significant heat, engines are screaming in lower gears at high rpm. Limp mode due to overheating is common place even on Winter days towing with v6 turbos, I4 turbos vs the v8 they replaced.
@charlesb4267Ай бұрын
@@icare7151 Definitely turbos spin faster to create the same boost pressure at higher altitudes, however I can't say I hear of turbo diesel engines having excessive issues at altitude although definitely every engine put on long grades and in summer time temps all are stressed and the person behind the wheel is the other factor !. One has to wonder how much ( or little ) testing has been done in Colorado with these newer turbo gas engines to design them to take that punishment. I am in Alberta and I know the passes over into BC is where some will have issues for sure but the coquihalla highway in the south interior of BC is where vehicles go to die if towing, it gets hot during the summer and there is a section of I think its over 8 percent grade so vehicle speed drops as does the air flow through the rad and so anything not up to the task is asking for a very bad day ... just like the longer passes in Colorado.
@zemo2332Ай бұрын
I would love to see this 5.3 vs 3.0 diesel engine. Please compare them if you can. Thanks.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
I would love to!
@kb9oak749Ай бұрын
Turns out all those guys with slide rules, compasses and drafting tables 100 years ago knew what they were doing.
@mattgarlick9392Ай бұрын
Chev 3.0 Diesel next!
@slickbackgoonbythesaltylag30Ай бұрын
Towed a 30ft rv over my 2023 3.0 duramax tow rating and it did it like a champ gotta test it out
@brandonstewart7145Ай бұрын
Excellent video Alex and im not surprised with the results, the 5.3 is a work horse for sure!!
@davidlefranc6240Ай бұрын
For somebody that tow stuff frequently, it just make more sense to go for a 2500hd with a 6.6 gas engine, much more affordable than the 6.2 who likes to use expensive 91 octane just my opinion .
@frankpickrellАй бұрын
That I-4 will be toast after a couple of years. The V8 will run forever
@hg2blackcat41128 күн бұрын
Your big daddy 5.3 has no chance with that active fuel management. Them lifters kill these trucks 😂😂 RIP 😢
@jonh9016Ай бұрын
With modern 8 and 10sp transmissions, it allows for those higher gear ratios while keeping a near final ratio of the older 4/5sp transmissions with 3.73s/4.10s but allowing for lower highway rpm now.
@keithirtenkauf5563Ай бұрын
Hi Alex, Thanks for the video. This is the same drivetrain that I tow with. I have a 5000 lb travel trailer and it does a fine job with it. I was a little worried about the 3.23 rear gear, but the 10-speed transmission makes the magic happen. I did test drive the 2.7 8-speed but it just didn’t feel right. Everything was too busy. I think the 10-speed would be a nice option for the 2.7 to reduce the drama. Love my V8, loved the video!
@dawsongranger4940Ай бұрын
From what I’ve understood the 8 speed is made to run hotter than the 10 speed for driveline efficiency. TFL noted the higher temperatures when they were towing with their Colorado. Much less weight but still the same temperature
@captainspaulding4777Ай бұрын
A small engine that is forced to work twice as hard will last only half as long.
@dalelangehennig161Ай бұрын
I would call the 6.2 the flagship V8. 5.3 being the most common vanilla V8.
@kennethwatt3491Ай бұрын
Cafe Regulations are putting the nail in V8 Engines, not small Turbo Charged Engines......imho......
@ALMX5DPАй бұрын
GM just invested a ton in a new generation of V8 engines so that may not necessarily be accurate.
@kevin122759Ай бұрын
Supreme court put a stop to the Chevron rule. EPA can't make laws, only congress can.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
totally agree, but I think some owners are loving their small displacement engines.
@Scroll_LockАй бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures These are people who want to drive their truck like a sports car and don't understand the concept of duty cycle.
@Scroll_LockАй бұрын
Correct, same reason nobody demanded after treatment systems on diesels.
@Slane583Ай бұрын
My previous 2004 Silverado had the 3rd Gen 5.3 LS in it which had the least amount of problems of all of the 5.3's compared to later offerings. That's why I love the 3rd Gen LS so much, it's reliable. Anything after 2007 has a 4th Gen LS in it. If you don't believe me just go on to Summit Racing's webite and look up parts for a 2004 Silverado. They literally say it has a 3rd Gen LS in it. I used to window shop for potential upgrade parts for my 2004 all the time. I just never had the money for anything. :)
@jjsantos3292Ай бұрын
The only thing I didn’t like about my 5.3 in my ‘22 was being worried about the lifters. I however never had a problem in the 40k miles I owned it.
@MrJeffyb69Ай бұрын
Just need to do a 6.2L GM truck and the 3.0 Duramax 🙂
@krnwhitlowАй бұрын
I have a 05 sierra 1500 5.3 I tow my 7000 camper with no problem with power.....I use a f5 programmer to help with engine optimization I would buy another truck with the 5.3 not the 2.7...good comparison dude
@lesliebright3860Ай бұрын
Had a 4Runner, loved it; but I bought a camper, traded for a 5.3 Sierra, has been a great TV for my camper. (Smaller single-axle Airstream, a 20FB; going 2500 would have been overkill for it.)
@benholland5836Ай бұрын
I normally don’t use toe/haul mode if I’m not pulling big hills. It shifts a little more but it helps the fuel economy.
@teagreen2220Ай бұрын
I hear that Toyota can make a 3 cylinder with similar hp and torque numbers. I used to race small engines in VWs. My trucks all have V8s because of the power and durability and less parts destruction, replacement. I don’t want a light weight vehicle while towing and I think that would be a mistake especially heavy towing. I tune my V8 trucks and they are perfectly exciting to drive after tuned, no longer slow. I think small trucks are great for occasional light towing but I would stick to NA for reliability and longevity. Good luck to all! Great video.
@road-channelАй бұрын
I love your videos so much!! I like that chart of data thats cool and can't wait to hopefully see a 5.7 Hemi in these test with that big tall trailer!! show us the descend too and trans temp everything 👋🤟
@Cake41579Ай бұрын
I had one of the turbo max trucks as a loaner last winter while mine was in the shop and I tried hauling 9 round bales of hay with it on my 24 foot trailer and was simply amazed at the power. It sounded like a souped up Equinox and I don’t know how it’ll hold up in the long run but if they’ll
@jasonrolison6997Ай бұрын
Good video, most people are enamored with torque and HP numbers and are willing to speed money they should be investing on a new vehicle. The question should always be will this vehicle do what I need it to do without costing too much.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
Great point! Agreed.
@Potatofarmer1898Ай бұрын
Friend just got the turbo max. He only hauls. Never tows. Perfect for him. Without a trailer the 2.7 is amazing. With a trailer, I’ll take my 5.3 every day of the week. Once in awhile I’m towing a camper or boat around 5-6000 lbs. The V8 will smoke the 2.7 towing.
@bradboyd883Ай бұрын
How about a 2.7 Ecoboost? To see how it compares to the others
@williambellew767Ай бұрын
They should put the 10 speed with the 2.7
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
very much agree!
@MrRGillerАй бұрын
I remember reading somewhere that GM had initially wanted to use the 10 speed on the 2.7 l turbo engine, but for some reason, it did not perform as well as it did with the eight speed transmission.
@greggb681Ай бұрын
Dude, I get so excited every time when you post a video! So damn helpful!
@christophercraig9611Ай бұрын
Besides looks the biggest problem with the GM offerings when towing is their 24 gallon tank. Having a realistic towing range of 200ish miles just isn’t great. Being able to pick and choose when to fill up when towing rather than having to stop because you might run out of gas is really important for me.
@Cloud30000Ай бұрын
I think engine tech has come far enough that GM could merge the 5.3 and 6.2 into a 5.8 engine with the same power as the 6.2, if they can get it past emissions regs.
@jeremygregory7178Ай бұрын
My 21 6.2 has 110k on it and has been flawless. I change the oil every 5k with pennzoil ultra platinum 5w30 and I’ve had no issues with lifters. It pulls up to 10k pretty well.
@slagdemonАй бұрын
I also have a 2021 with the 6.2 but only have 21k miles. It’s an AT4. Love the truck!!
@MrNismoproАй бұрын
I’d like to see the Nissan Titan, and Toyota Tundras numbers compared to this group with the same tests. Nissan’s Endurance is 400hp also. It would definitely be interesting to see. Great video. 👍🏼
@hemi8321Ай бұрын
Time to see the ram!!! The 5.7 and there new hurricane engine. Very curious how they stack up against the other guys. Love the videos. Good work!
@matthewm3912Ай бұрын
Their*
@7thkev519Ай бұрын
I’d like to see the ram 1500 5.7 hemi with the 3.92 gear ration in the towing loop because the 3.92 gives the 5.7 hemi it’s full potential in putting down the power down to the wheels and see how it stacks up with the 5.0 coyote and aswell the 6.2
@richardkent9621Ай бұрын
Need a wind speed indicator. Pulling a trailer like that if you have a head wind or tail wind would make a huge difference. Speed matters, but air speed is even more important.
@D3AThCAl2DS12 сағат бұрын
l8t gas has enter the chat* "So I hear you like towing what if i said i was more reliable than my platform."
@lauderdalechadАй бұрын
Finally someone does towing videos with information, we the people, want to see! Those. Clowns at TFL should take notes 😏
@mikebenefield669027 күн бұрын
The V-8 is good for more than 300,000 miles. It will take two small motors to replace it for longevity.
@ib516Ай бұрын
Thumbs up for the 6.2L test
@adamg3911Ай бұрын
Would be cool to see the tune-data/ecm&tcm-data on these tests to see timing,boost, fueling, heat management, etc. great content btw
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
I've been thinking about getting something to give better data then just the dash display for exactly that. really dig into the working of the engine while under load. would be cool forsure!
@4.8SamАй бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures Banks iDash!
@WBOS72Ай бұрын
So glad to hear the 5.3 did so well. I look forward to the 6.2. What about the 3.0 dmax? I wont be buying new, but will get another 5.3 soon. Thank you Alex.
@MrDan7171Ай бұрын
What people dont realize is the GM 5.3L and All V8 motors have a 15% torque reduction until 3000 RPMs in 1st and 2nd gear, and maybe 3rd gear also! I have a 2018 Silverado that is Tuned and the torque reduction removed, and it is a completely diffent truck driving and towing! I also had a 2012 6.2L that I Tuned with Long Tubes and it was a beast of a truck! I wish i would have never sold it!
@michaeltutty1540Ай бұрын
When you are talking torque and horsepower, hard numbers are only part of the equation. Where the peaks land in the rev range is the other half of it. Oh, the 5.3 is putting out LESS torque than the factory 351W in my 89 Mercury Grand Marquis. It produced a reasonable 390 lb/ft at only 2,200 rpm. With a horsepower peak of 215 at 4,800 rpm, it was a very flexible engine. So much so that the performance axle ratio was a 2.73:1. The car was rated for a full 6,000 pounds of trailer with that ratio. Yes, mine had the factory towing package.
@muellerpkАй бұрын
im not brand loyal, ive been driving chevys my entire life. but in 2016 i got a 3.5 ecoboost, it towed way better than my 6.2 denali
@WDunkinАй бұрын
I have noticed the same thing. The 2.7 likes 65lbs towing not 75. It does 70mph but it hunts more for gears.
@yolo_burritoАй бұрын
This is why hybridization is so fantastic with small GTDI’s. The electric motors have fantastic 0 rpm torque.
@AndrewYu-zo6uiАй бұрын
Do GM 5.3L engines still have the random AFM/DFM issues?
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
lol YES
@ArchangelMLM6 күн бұрын
The phrase “there’s no replacement for displacement” is actually a lie, because “the replacement for displacement” is weight, always has been and always will be, every mechanic knows this. The GM 5th gen 5.3 (2013-Present) you can get without the DFM system, this is the best option. It’s worth noting that the 5.3-liter displacement V8 first made an appearance in generation three of GM’s small-block engine family. This is due to the fact that these engines are the successor to the original GM small-block 350 V8s dating all the way back to 1955. It’s initially a bit confusing to start with the third generation, but the third generation is the birth of the 5.3.
@EliteMarineProducts18 күн бұрын
I really enjoy your videos, they are nice mix of technical, opinion and testing. My question is, why did GM build a 4cyl. with half the displacement of the 5.3, that gets very similar or less mpg than the "old" tried and true v-8? I have been driving pickups since my 1982 Ford f150 302 v8 2wd with 3speed on the column.
@LuisHernandez-lj6hrАй бұрын
F150 2.7 ecoboost towing test plz
@stevenlatham4397Ай бұрын
If GM offered an old school 3.73 ratio, either of these trucks would be more acceptable. Thats literally my only qualm with my 2024 GMC with the 2.7 is I feel it’s geared too tall.
@burkepete110Ай бұрын
no question the small diesels and boosted gassers can pull ... but the question is how many hill climbs before they do before they die
@ronaldmay8861Ай бұрын
You do give a good honest review.....unless you are driving a Ram truck. Good Mpg on the GMC
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
lmao I'm trying to be more objective, I like Ram trucks but also want to just present the facts and along with some opinions
@ronaldmay8861Ай бұрын
@TheGettyAdventures You give a good honest opinion. Keep it up, I enjoy your videos. I happen to be a ford fan so all the other trucks are junk....😀
@taylorjanowiak8180Ай бұрын
It’s funny how Ford is a love it or hate it kind of thing. I’ll take a Ram, then a GM over a Ford any day. But I think a lot is just aesthetic preference
@ronaldmay8861Ай бұрын
@taylorjanowiak8180 isn't that the truth...I sat in a new GMC the other day , I don't like how high the hood sits compared to the ford. That duramax in the half ton really interests me however.
@billbrown6526Ай бұрын
I think it mostly has to do with needs. If you need to tow you need a bigger power plant. If you tow, say an larger RV. That 5.3 will not cut the mustard. How ever if you rarely tow. The little motor will save you gas day to day, and will get the job done. All depends on your needs. I have the 6.6 d max. That little 5.3 could not do what i need.
@Mleczko42110 күн бұрын
NEED HELP… currently own a Tacoma.. I own a 4000 lb camper that it pulls. Kids are getting bigger so need bigger truck.. tow the camper every weekend from may-November in Colorado. Grades, elevation changes.. what engine do I get with 4x4? 4Cyl, v8, diesel? Silverado trail boss, LT?
@JohnDiMartinoАй бұрын
Watching this makes me think even more of the 5.0 coyote,it ran 5-600 less rpm on hills with less displacement and had more power and it could downshift anytime for more.The 5.3 isn’t a good engine anymore,too many cam and lifter failures.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
the 5L is in another league. more power, no lifter issues.
@eliohernandez01Ай бұрын
If it ain't a 5.0l then it's slow🤷♂️
@bryane2857Ай бұрын
@@eliohernandez01 I have the 5.0... But to say it beat the 5.3 in fractions of a second isn't saying alot. Eco or boost with turbo's. I'll stick with displacement
@renurenovationsllc7780Ай бұрын
@@bryane2857but the 5.O also out accelerated the 6.2…when towing, at least with his previous trailer. The 5.O does so well in its mid range, when loaded down.
@bryane2857Ай бұрын
@@renurenovationsllc7780 Modular engine compared to OHC.... 2 very different engines. Godzilla is using the same technology for a reason as the 5.3 and 6.2 for that matter 5.7 hemi. I'm no fan boy as I see you are, i appreciate mechanical things; my 5.0 has been in the shop under warranty several times. They all have issues, they all take your money and they all will break down one time or another. stop bickering over 10s of a second and by what you want. I will only purchase Ford and GM now because of v8's. Untill that changes that is my 2 cents
@captainron7904Ай бұрын
GM should try making a straight 6 turbo max i would buy something like that
@big_oucne3536Ай бұрын
don't know if this was already mentioned but this being the sierra rather then the Chevy, and the front ends being different, mpg tests between the trucks despite the same drive line had a varied result which was the Chevy's always getting better mpg due to the rounded front end as apposed to the sierra's more square front. probably wouldn't make much of a difference here but thought id mention it
@retheisenАй бұрын
The truck in your rear view mirror was matching you on the acceleration run.
@slocavkyАй бұрын
I towed our 22' travel trailer with my 2021 Silverado LM2 Duramax this weekend. I have torque pro app on my phone with an obd reader and I watched several things. One new one was what gear I was in. I have the 3.23 gear and 10 speed in that truck and in tow haul mode, I fully expected it to stay in 8th max gear and it didn't. Several times it went to 10th. Thought that was very unusual.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
It used to be that when in tow haul mode these truck would never enter an overdrive gear but I guess with 3 of them then it makes some sense but going into 10th gear seems a bit much lol
@slocavkyАй бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures exactly. That's why I thought it was odd. Ah well. 😂
@slmjakeАй бұрын
Love your videos sir! My personal experience with an older 5.3 and six speed auto tranny and 3.73 gears is that it was slower than my 150 5.0 and much slower than my powerboost. However with a slide in pop up truck camper weighing about 1800 pounds loaded the chevy 5.3 delivers the best mpgs for some reason. Moreover, that powertrain was bulletproof out to 400k miles but I am a stickler on changing fluids. Love my ford's and my ram Cummins but the 5.3 to me was the best damned darned engine for low cost operations.
@robertchapman4488Ай бұрын
If the 2.7 had the 10-speed it would be a whole different story.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
Agreed, I think GM should think about giving the 2.7L the 10 Speed.
@JamesSterling5 сағат бұрын
If you use KM for distance and KMH for speed why not use metric for weight (kilograms), torque (Newton-Meters), and horsepower (Watts.) At least you would be consistent.
@bradbowles1153Ай бұрын
I could live with the 2.7 as I only tow heavier loads two or three times a year. I would get the 5.3 for frequent towing.
@carlmccoy3273Ай бұрын
Ecotec3 is actually gen 5 of the LS/LT engine family. gen 3 would be trucks from 1997-2007
@drsethsrАй бұрын
I wonder how hot the EGTs were going up the long grade, taching 5,000 RPM.
@DavidBrubaker-pi4gjАй бұрын
Hey Getty. So I really enjoy your videos a lot and enjoy your analysis of the tech in the truck industry. I have been wondering what you and other people think about the Turbomax implementation. Its known now that GM was going to come out with a 6 cylinder 4 liter of the 2.7 liter engine that was originally rated for 350 foot pounds. GM decided to double down on the four cylinder model to truely make it a gas with diesel tech in the 2022 refresh. The end result was that it was a bit lacking in power. Do you think that a 5 cylinder would have been better? Smoother operation, a bit more displacement, more overall power for a powerplant that would have been a better one size fits all for a premium midsize truck and full size truck market? I can't help to think how much more horsepower the extra cylinder would provide and the biggest reason is the sound. Inline 5 cylinder engines sound real mean. Thanks for reading.
@rapidride2Ай бұрын
Think about the wear and work each cylinder has to do.
@AgonxOCАй бұрын
Wait didn’t the V6TT from FORD do better than all?
@irishpotato8816Ай бұрын
I like all these engine options, small turbo engines for people who don’t tow all that often and V8 for those who do tow often. we’re winning as consumers.
@ht24d6427 күн бұрын
This isn’t a real apples to apples test if driveline ratios are different. What driveline was in the Ford ecoboost? Or coyote ?
@JP-nisu_2Ай бұрын
Why not compare a turbo v8, 3L diesel to the turbo i4?
@J0897Ай бұрын
Ive pulled 10k lb trailer through the major passes in the rocky mountains with tahoe 5.3 v8
@hummyhero1484Ай бұрын
I really like these kinds of videos I appreciate the time and effort you give so us couch potatoes can watch trucks do some work lol
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
I appreciate it sir, but to be honest I love being able to fool around with these trucks!
@hummyhero1484Ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures im the same way id have one of every truck made if i could afford it then i would test them in all types of scenarios especially towing.
@cpftank09Ай бұрын
Makes me wonder how the 2.7 ecoboost compares. I know it’ll beat the 2.7 GM 4cyl, but just curious.
@stevebeard766713 күн бұрын
I have a 2022 F150 with a 2.7. I do tow occasionally, just pallets after grass or stuff around the house. For me, it's been a really good motor, and the gas mileage is respectable.
@powerwagon7811Ай бұрын
Great if you want to put a new engine in your truck every five years, or just buy a new one. My 440 Power Wagon is 45 years old and still runs perfect. The greenest truck is the one that doesn't wear out five times.
@puncht37Ай бұрын
One wonders why GM doesn`t install that 2.7 in the higher trim 1500`s, or the Tahoe/Surburban?
@ALMX5DPАй бұрын
I think the target demographic for those models don’t necessarily want it. Might have a bit too much NVH or whatever.
@TheGettyAdventuresАй бұрын
it is their base model engine so people buying those higher trims might not want it. but it is always nice to have options.
@puncht37Ай бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures I believe it`s turbo lag and NVH in a heavier rig. Gm knows this. Even though, the 2.7 has more torque [on paper]. That`s why this vid is cool as it does real world not paper. Old mechanic here also.