Chicago Bulls Turned Down Alex Caruso Trade FOr Top 10 Pick Due To Ownership Mandate?

Haize & Pat The Designer react to reports of the Bulls turning down a trade for Alex Caruso. The guys also talk about the Bulls' predraft workouts & the Celtics winning the NBA Finals.
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[@DK-rk8ie]

Pat is spitting fire tonight. This whole organization is full of toxic minions of Reinsdorf.

[@balthorpayne]

BRUH, thank you for coming around, Pat. I mean better late than never but it actually made a ton of sense by year 2 of "Wait for Lonzo" that it wasn't just AKME being stupid. We have had years of misery before AKME and the one common thread is ownership. We only just got a development team and it probably took a bunch of finagling to make it happen. Ownership has an anchor around this team's ankle. The 2020-2021 revival was a bad move simply because we had a glimpse. And the Zach Lavine "Not enough" trade veto told us what we needed to know. Shame is folks like me are BULLS fans, I am not an NBA fan. If Bulls ain't playing, I don't watch, so ownership is fcking with us.

[@EZCOOKSIT]

Not gonna lie I thought Jerry was less involved than I thought. This team might be a dumpster fire, but at least you two are hilarious.

[@SANDMAN_7]

Aw man they had a chance to rebuild around that pick too smh

[@jesussamurai8433]

I’ve made peace with the fact that at 30 years of age by the time this mess blows over I’ll be nearing 40 I have a higher chance of meeting my maker rather than ever seeing the bulls be a contender/championship team. Hoping my kids have better luck.

[@marcwarren4393]

Preach Pat

[@7nawt7]

I don’t know what happened to Pat, but I’m subscribing

[@Cornelius_Smith100_NationsTalk]

Pat is right. I feel everything he said. Look at Boston Celtics they going to spend over 800 million dollars for 2 players , and 800 million for 2 players is crazy money, but I'll would've spent the same amount of money probably more for Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown right now they are in their prime and can win multiple Championships together Jerry would've split Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown up lol 2 years ago 😂😂😂😂. The problem always starts from the top now. Is it all on ownership? Of course, not, but damn this was my worst fear, and if we try to stay so-called competitive. AKME, I apologize cause Damn 😔 I'm lost for words. Facts and Blessings C Red Nation🙏🏿💪🏿✊🏿💯.

[@bryan11981]

The Bulls owners does not care about the Bulls franchise. We are not moving forward. We are living in the past.

[@Mac2Mon]

“You should’ve took a PTO day” was hilarious! To Pat’s credit there ain’t enough PTO days in the world to save this Bulls organization

[@jdh9676]

I said it at CBC I'll say it here but more briefly, and hopefully succinctly. I have NO problem with not trading AC for a pick in this draft. But going forward? Every move this team makes better be for our future. Up to and including trading AC. As time goes on? Others might have to go, too. Zach needs to go, 'Zo needs to get gone, DeMar needs to go for what he is rumored to want. Drum is most likely gone. AC? You think he wants to spend his final prime years in Chicago grinding it out for a poop organization? This will be FOUR years already! Free Agency begins today. We run THIS team back? I'll lose my chit...and my mind. We keeping AC? Great! I love AC. NOW MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!

[@TheMultiolddude]

If 6 Championships plus some entertaining seasons with D.Rose in the playoffs ! The Lavine experience! Remember the Boston series,Miami series? How many other organizations are better if you’re saying Reinsdorf is horrible? Who also brought a White Sox championship to Chicago? Gentlemen I implore you!

[@ryanmckaye8212]

Turned down a top 10 pick prior to the deadline obviously so we didn’t know where that pick would’ve fell exactly. Nothing wrong with that and some teams are very likely to then offer their current top 10 picks for Caruso, you can’t trade right now so it couldn’t have been right now. Nothing bad about not accepting that

[@CL__01]

We can talk about it, We can complain about it (Bulls Fan) You never know what is going to happen, That's the problem!

[@3912James]

"Keeping the Bulls competitive" is keeping the Bulls JUST good enough to keep fans interested. This is reminding me of the Dallas Cowboys. I've turned my back from them....and it's looking like I will turn my back on the Bulls if ownership don't become more urgent by the 2026 NBA Draft. Gaslight me all you want....but I'm not spending years waiting for a team such as the Bulls to improve because those at the top are apathetic towards becoming a deep playoff/championship team. I'm not speaking for Bulls fans. I'm speaking for me. If the top don't give a &#@* about winning.....soon I won't give a &#@* about this team. And I hope the players see that and move on.

[@thehappyhermit01]

Then move on stop your whining.

[@3912James]

@@thehappyhermit01 Then support the BS until you reach retirement age and the Bulls still haven't won a championship.

[@thehappyhermit01]

@@3912James Who says I'm supporting it? It is what it is. I have more important things to worry about.

[@AntSpen27]

Not a popular opinion but we need another team in Chicago. I would still be a bulls fan, but maybe reinsdork, seeing in house competition will change him. I'm down for whatever to change this shit up.

[@io8190]

They may wait until draft night to make sure their guy is available.

[@leonjj39]

Unbelievable , I feel Pat's anger . Bulls are making millions one top 5 in attendance and sales.

[@creeleygolanski2142]

We put our best foot forward but had bum knees and dipped our toes into Zach lavine

[@find_the_truth]

Remain competitive with Josh Giddey?

[@bfns23]

Dlo OR Reaves,Rui, Vincent,JHS, picks for Lavine and Caruso. Who says no?

[@LockedOnBulls]

Probably the Lakers

[@7nawt7]

They got Boozer instead of letting Taj be the man. Money poorly spent.

[@Avenue1O1]

A top 10 pick in a weak draft but with lonzo coming back we are too guard heavy I would’ve made the trade

[@jefftaylor5754]

Thanks Pat for being honest about this raggedy Bulls organization!Haize needs to get the sleep out his eyes.

[@user-ij2tj2cl1k]

This is the most money back we could get for any player right now. Such a big deal and now we know the bulls are relying on a group that has had little success over the last 2 years. AC is doing 3 things at once and for some reason bulls management thinks this year will be different by the other players on the floor contributing more on the defensive side of the court. To many dalen terry, Coby, vuch, demar blown assignments. I have optimism but I didn't know how much I'd be disappointed to hear news like this. I love ac but it looks like he is wasting good years with the bulls and it does hurt to believe this. #whatnow

[@thomasbutler4855]

He said you got corporate in there lol

[@mgreen32183]

Celtics winning simultaneously pissed off knick cavs lakers an cHeat fans. I love it. Not trading caruso for limping into the play in is right on brand...

[@AstralScourge]

The Reisndorfs have always been a problem and always will be until the family doesn't own them. Jerrys son is pretty much running the team now so it won't change when Jerry expires

[@brandonlmartin1993]

Would the pick have been a top ten pick if they got Alex. Because if the warriors got Alex they would've gotten into the playoffs and potentially second round. And we get a late first

[@reginaldshort8486]

Well looks like we’re gonna keep our 1st rd pick next year cause we not getting out the top 10. Lastly trade POR 1st back to them for their 34th and get Dillon Jones.

[@ChiTownMade]

I would have done it. I would of put together a sign n trade with demar and Caruso to the rockets for the 3rd & ethier tari eason or cam Whitmore. And someone who cares about us fans, who is willing to spend, who wants to do the best things for us fans and for our team.

[@navblue20]

Well now Caruso's gone and you got Josh Giddey. Now what ?

[@silver33]

The Bulls held on too long to their players. I think AK wanted to trade, but ownership said no.

[@ThatOldSchoolMagic]

This team has been so disappointing the last few years that the first 35-40 games of the 21-22 season have been erased from ppls' minds completely. I believe the only way we could ever get back to the fun/enjoyment of those days is if everyone all of a sudden decided to say "FK this team" and went back to living their daily lives as they did when they didn't care about the Bulls as much as now. Then, wait until the next time a decent team is put together(Whenever that is) to start watching again. It would be better for people both physically, mentally and spiritually. As I can't imagine their current struggle bringing joy to anyone in Bulls Nation. As mentioned before. If they absolutely fail again this offseason. I'm not watching anymore until the day they manage to build something decent again.

[@Dr.MantisToboggan1]

Da Bulls.

[@flockaveli15]

Maaan I need someone in mainstream media who likes Chicago whether it’s Mike Wilbon or Kenny to just be blunt and start the narrative of how bad reinsdorf is for the sport. Because that’s the only way we getting him out. The narrative needs to be about nobody should just be owning a team with no intention in truly winning

[@ThatOldSchoolMagic]

One of the things I noticed that really hurt Jerry was how people from the White Sox admitted to all the issues the team was having a season ago. How it was poorly run and other issues they were dealing with. That needs to happen a lot more to have any affect on him. He really doesn't like being embarrassed infront of the media.

[@flockaveli15]

@@ThatOldSchoolMagic exactly. The teams will never not make money it’s impossible so hoping for fans to not go to games wouldn’t do anything unless it starts looking like a g league crowd. Next best thing is to trash his name and his lack of care for anything but money

[@EssentialClassic]

But the Warriors didn't have a top-10 pick, especially not this draft. Besides, Warriors traded their 2024 1st round pick, which is now owned by Portland. 😂

[@florida1289]

I can't believe people believe that someone would offer a top 10 pick for a role player.

[@alexanderthegreat3]

Nothing will change until ownership are hungry for success

[@marquezrogers]

They’re gonna keep the same team an try to find some semi star player and bet on Lonzo coming back to his old self🙄

[@italiano559n9]

I'm so excited!!! Can't wait for another trash season🤦‍♂️our ownership and front office are bums and dont forget our bum coach either! Salute haize great video🤝💯🍻

[@jdh9676]

😭

[@BullsAllDay]

Not giving Alex for a 2024 1st was the right call 2025 is a better year to cash that chip in. Alex is our biggest trade chip we have. Also no one is trying to watch another Wendell , Denzel V lineups again hoping they will turn into stars . Kinda like how y’all wanted to trade everything for scoot Henderson and he turned out to be hot garbage 🗑. Alex is a culture piece and arguably our most impactful player we have we should build around him instead. Idk why everyone is in a hurry to trade him away . Dude is a star with an improved shot

[@pwho405]

Build around him?? 😂😂

[@BullsAllDay]

@@pwho405 name me one player on the team that has a higher impact on the game than him?

[@pwho405]

@@BullsAllDay I would build around Coby White and Ayo Dosunmu 10 times outta 10. Caruso is definitely a keeper but not to build a team around no way.

[@BullsAllDay]

so who has more impact on the game? Coby or Alex? I agree Coby is our future

[@pwho405]

@@BullsAllDay then why would you not build around your future? I’m confused at why you’re continuing this narrative.

[@thehappyhermit01]

Good. I'd trade Caruso for a Top 3 pick, but Top 10, nah. We have the #11 pick already. This is a weak draft. No way.

[@LockedOnBulls]

You realize #3 is a top 10 pick right ….

[@thehappyhermit01]

@@LockedOnBulls Top 10 could mean anything up to #10. By Top 3, that would guarantee a better pick. That’s what I’m saying

[@LockedOnBulls]

Yeah but in a draft such as this honestly anything other than the top two have comparable potential. Really from 3-15 depending on how the draft goes they are all very similar overall potential

[@hbomb2024]

This draft is weak! Name a player in the top 10 that will impact the Bulls winning better than Caruso??? If you trade Caruso, Derozen walks! He’s done babysitting rookies.

[@LockedOnBulls]

Which DeRozan walking isn’t a terrible thing. Players that would impact this team more in the long run: Ware, TSJ, Holland and that’s just to name a few. The narrative of a “weak” draft only means superstar talent there are a lot of players in this draft that will be above average starters for years to come

[@hbomb2024]

@@LockedOnBulls sounds like you’re good with rolling like the Pistons and losing a ton of games, getting excited about draft picks. No contender uses that strategy to contend. I’m tired of watching the Bulls lose. The hell with these draft picks. Celtics, Knicks, Mavs, and others got better by trade. Lakers even trying to trade their picks

[@hbomb2024]

@@LockedOnBulls I promise you, if we trade Caruso, we are heading into rebuild. No team that wants to contend will trade a player like Caruso. I’m just saying we should be looking for proven players in trade to get better, not by draft picks. Dallas got better trading for PJ, DJ jr and Gafford

[@angelrodriguez-oe9kv]

NOT TV LAND 😂😂😂😂 👴🏽

[@wyattchambliss6015]

This draft is weak that’s why they willing to give it away next year draft is a lot better

[@LockedOnBulls]

The narrative of a “weak” draft means in regardless to projected star level players. Not meaning there’s no talent in the draft

[@wyattchambliss6015]

@@LockedOnBulls & u relying on the bulls to pick the right player & develop them the right way ?😂 we had players & good role players we could’ve build off of , but end up trading them

[@LockedOnBulls]

I don’t disagree with you there. That’s the most dangerous part of anything with this front office is trusting their eye for prospects. But I’m talking. Overall there’s tons of talent in this draft.

[@wyattchambliss6015]

@@LockedOnBulls I 100% agree , I just would hate the bulls get rid of Caruso & grab a horrible pick in the draft or don’t even develop him right & we would be back to square one

[@lamonteshockley787]

Iam going to say something. The Bulls only hope is to draft Bronnie James and lure LeBron to Chicago. With LeBron the Bulls have a chance to come out of the east. Focusing on the draft is a waste of time. You need a difference maker to make a difference. This is the chance to get LeBron. No draft choice is going to help the Bulls more than LeBron James.

[@LockedOnBulls]

Bron isn’t going to help the Bulls do anything but help ownership do what it always does and that’s sell hope. That isn’t something to build sustainable success at all. Bron isn’t that guy anymore. Still damn good but come on man

[@lamonteshockley787]

@@LockedOnBulls Neither is Vucevic, P Williams, Caruso, Karnisov, or Billy Donovan. Yes I included Karnisov and Billy Donovan. What LeBron can do is get players to come to the Bulls that would never come. Get players to stay (DeRozan) that want to leave because there is no hope. Finally get players to believe that they have a chance. The Bulls are missing a real leader that's why they get led to nowhere..

[@WindyCity888]

At least we got Josh Giggity Giddy………… kill me now

[@HolyGhost-rr5qp]

Bulls definitely not making the playoffs at all

[@giselamigoni25]

bring andre drummond back to us bulls

[@DK-rk8ie]

Now I know why AK went on his competitive rant. It was secretly an AI practice moment... Dude was probably miserable that he couldn't get that pick.

[@jdh9676]

Honestly? AK and Marc do seem miserable sometimes. They're getting paid? Yes...and thats good. But seems they hold back at times. Yes...they are an extension of ownership. Understood. And AK says ownership will "pay the tax" for a top four playoff team. But how to get there! This Bulls team is driving me crazy top to bottom!

[@DK-rk8ie]

@@jdh9676 agreed my guy. I'm hoping we actually give our young Bulls a chance. Those Carolina boys have chemistry. Keep PWill at all costs.

[@jdh9676]

@@DK-rk8ie Thats all I ask. Give us a season, one game at a time. Players to cheer for, a team to get behind win or lose. Let them grow, let them fight. Any vets we have? THEY are the "role players." The support crew. But lets get OUR young guys out there and stick with it! Game after game. Can we be at least 39-43? I think so. I'd take 30-52 at this point with our young guns showing heart. But lets see what we got and have some fun! Lets goooo!

[@DK-rk8ie]

@@jdh9676 amen brotha. We gotta hope for development. I believe DeMar wants to walk because he's taught all he can. Who knows....we might have one of those fun seasons again.