Children of Dune 2 Leto II & Ghanima (psychic) Fate scene (AtreidesIntro)

[@klyanadkmorr]

DUNE2020 HYPE -- own Timothee Chalamet as Paul Atreides Funko Pop! Pre-order here: amzn.to/3hMi3pl www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/07/carl-zimmer-she-has-her-mother-s-laugh/561710/ article book review excerpts - "But chimeras are not just oddities. You surely know one. In pregnant women, fetal stem cells can cross the placenta to enter the mother’s bloodstream, where they may persist for years. If Mom gets pregnant again, the stem cells of her firstborn, still circulating in her blood, can cross the placenta in the other direction, commingling with those of the younger sibling. Heredity can thus flow “upstream,” from child to parent-and then over and down to future siblings. Carl Zimmer's new book She Has Her Mother’s Laugh makes the subject of genes and heredity accessible to non-scientists. It covers many subjects, such as royal inbreeding, eugenics, mitochondrial DNA vs. chromosomal DNA, and the weird things that can happen along the way as a new human is constructed. To focus in is to find chromosomes playing all sorts of tricks. Take, for example, chimeras. To the ancient Greeks, the Chimera was a fire-breathing hybrid monster; to a biologist, chimeras are organisms that comprise cells from two different individuals. Ranchers are familiar with one type of chimera, the freemartin, which results when a cow carries opposite-sex twins. Connected by a shared placenta, the fetal calves exchange stem cells. The bull calf grows up into a more or less normal bull, while the heifer-the freemartin-has undeveloped ovaries and exhibits masculinized behavior (and is particularly tasty on the grill). Where does one calf end and the other begin? Zimmer describes a bizarre twist on the free-martin: a girl with different-colored eyes and ambiguous genitals who appeared at a Seattle genetics clinic. Her ovaries proved to have only XX chromosomes-typical female-but her other tissues were mixtures of XX and XY. Further analysis showed that she had started out as opposite-sex twins. But early in development, the two embryos had fused, becoming a single, highly unusual child. Like a verse from the old Ray Stevens novelty song “I’m My Own Grandpa,” this girl was her own twin brother.

[@klyanadkmorr]

Since StarWars implied Force connected Skywalkers were ripoff of the DUNE Twins in underlying mental/psychic/sexual connections - FAN AU The twins have been connected prebirth psychic with memories of all their ancestors and each other. - archiveofourown.org/works/57286?view_adult=true

[@klyanadkmorr]

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[@ladyjatheist2763]

they really did a beautiful job with this... and casting a very young james macavoy was brilliance!

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

Those siblings are SCARY, they certainly look like the scary kids tropes, they totally look beyond human. And i love this btw, it's rare and ultra rare as mcs and could make for terrifying foes, characters that seem to have overcome humanity seems to live in their own world, only the siblings seem to understand each other and i love their connection and how they're also casual and loving, and dont need to act godly all the time. You cant hope but try to think whats in their heads, the line of "we're gonna help pass thru it" was brutal. The inspiration on Cersei n Jaime and shockingly on shingeki no kyojin is very apparent. I wasnt vibing with the cgi at 1st but by the end i was totally HOOKED and i wish i could rush to it without reading the 2 books, the siblings acting is so damn amazing and they're also very pretty, almost hypnotic. Mcavoy looks especially angelical and inhuman (especially on the voice scene with granny), he also looks shockingly young and boyish, makes it hit how aging sucks.

[@Anna-dw7jm]

agreed! but how is this relationship akin to anything in attack on titan?

[@ladyjatheist2763]

no matter who else he plays... he'll always be Leto to me.

[@christianealshut1123]

That was also the first role I saw him in, and before that I had no idea who he was. But it was also this role that convinced me how good an actor he is. He has just the right balance between maturity and vulnerability for Leto, suggesting that he is a character dealing with something far beyond his years. I think they would never have found a child actor with the capabilities to play a pre-born convincingly, i.e. without it coming across as creepy. And I think this extraordinary role effectively launched his career - after Children of Dune, you started seeing him everywhere.

[@lilyr6755]

My experience was the same sort of, but I had forgotten really cuz it was I think long before I saw him again, etc.

[@Jimbogf]

These two actors were so good together.

[@MaledictGaming]

Still hope to see James McAvoy as adult (God-Emperor) Leto II...

[@klyanadkmorr]

Yeah alot of us would think that cool but following McAvoy's instagram it seems he's totally past that and speaks nothing about Dune but likes to pretend he's a captain like Patrick Stewart in a star trek fanvids similar to being Prof X like Stewart, =P oh well Also doing voice over roles for Sandman Morpheus Dream & stage performances of Cyrano Debergiac

[@MaledictGaming]

@@klyanadkmorr Well, just because he doesn't speak about the role doesn't mean he won't get an offer later on. :/ One can hope....

[@klyanadkmorr]

I was just giving my depressed imho as in James' instagram uploads has pics of things like Narnia he did& 1-2 other older films, why not children of Dune. But the film media isn't even talking about or doing articles about the REST of the DUNE productions like the Syfy 3day series each of Dune &Children of Dune which they should also discuss, the day & age of DISMISSING TV movies vs theater ones is OVER. They should ask those actors too about their interest in the new film, Villeneuve & Herbert. All I see is disinterested interviews with Kyle MacLachlan(eta nah he does get a little excited about Dune as story & hopes for how it should get presented) or Lynch or Jordorosky of all people, who seemed kinda just jealous rude hoping the film fails hearing a report of his short interview about Dune2020, him using the cover of saying dune is too hard to produce properly it'll be a miracle Dune2020 is a success. from his POV

[@MaledictGaming]

@@klyanadkmorr Yea, I smelled a rotten fish the first time Jodorowsky started speaking to the press. The guy is an ass... Saw an interview with him about the Lynch version and the first thing he said was: "I was mentally devastated, until my son convinced me to go see the Lynch adaptation. I loved seeing the movie fail. (presumably it made him feel better about the "un-adaptability" of Dune in to movies, altho I'd say that statement has been more or less disproven precisely by the Children of Dune adaptation...)" In addition after looking in to his cinematographic history, I find myself wondering why does aynbody to this day, actualy give a fuck about the guy. The only thing he is known for is his failiure to adapt Dune... None of his actual movies were any good.

[@klyanadkmorr]

@@MaledictGaming ITA your take on Jordorowsky. also IMHO the other reason Syfy DUNE was so unmemorable & not deemed classy classic was it DID try to follow the *Jordorosky* LSD acid weird in it's production costuming OVER the top some scifi fans like. My other reasons were casting, weak soundtrack & theme, cgi & production value did not age well whereas CoD was better textured wasn't as videogaming smooth choppy glaring. CoD effects people has newer tech so like olden days the far background to shiny to high tech space stage settings maybe green screen or foreground warehouse sanddunes YET blended better into cgi dunescapes horizons or real life designed sets & actors.

[@einezcrespo2107]

Irulan is a saint putting up with the twins shenanigans but she loves them.

[@klyanadkmorr]

lil bastards! ☺ GOTTA LUVEM!! lol But preborns have to freak people out if people know their parents or older ancestors. Imagine Leto & Ghani saying and behaving(nonsexual) just like PAUL & Chani. Irulan was probably always creeped out but tried understand knowing Alia for years.

[@einezcrespo2107]

@@klyanadkmorr Agreed. Irulan may not have been that adept a Bene Gesserit but she's aware about Abonimation or being pre-born. She cares and loves the twins for their sakes & in a way an atonement for playing a part in Chani's death. I love the conversations she has with Jessica.

[@klyanadkmorr]

I have ALWAYS loved the Bene Gesserit cross talk of secret signlang/handsignals opposite of what they are saying verbally in public.

[@einezcrespo]

@@klyanadkmorr Wish someone downloaded the double speak of Jessica & Irulan. I saw the one with Reverend Mother Mohaim during her confinement.

[@klyanadkmorr]

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[@thorshammer7883]

Even though in the book they are nine years old I really like the actor and actress for Leto and Ghanima they played their roles for the characters perfectly. I really wished we got God Emperor before the Sci Fi channel's parent company merged with General Electric's owned company NBC that way could have seen James McAvoy play as the God Emperor and see some flashbacks between him and a aged Ghanima that would of been emotionally sad to see with Leto II having to see the last years of his sister while he keeps living having to continue the golden path for over 3,000 years while slowly transforming into a worm. James McAvoy was the perfect actor for Leto II and nothing will change that.

[@lamia.thira.lowenstein]

Oh my, Ghanima and Farad'n are only on the encyclopedia, but I really want that relationship explored. Ghani at the end of the book was already very protective of Farad'n

[@macenblu6]

i remember the first time i saw this series.....the chemistry between these two was so impossibly electric........and i thought both of them would end up being HUGE stars....mcavoy kinda made it...not sure what happened with the girl

[@kenrik7936]

I believe Jessica Brooke was better known as an opera signer.

[@zitronentee]

I find that McAvoy often can find on-screen chemistry with many of his co-stars.

[@IntotheBangtanUniverseWormhole]

McAvoy "kinda" made it? I'd say he's an A-lister!

[@WardNightstone]

Irulian became a much more interesting character in children of Dune in the first book she's only mentioned in passing and all the quotes that break up the book's "chapters" are stuff she wrote in universe

[@MaharionPendragon]

The chemistry between these two is the best part of the series. I wish the actress would have more work, but she seldom acts

[@vine01]

Bara Kodetova is very private person. She lives with her kids, not seeking attention. She was not particularly active in acting prior to the miniseries either. But her father was a renowned and deeply respected actor, descendant from last aristocracy in the country.

[@klyanadkmorr]

Do you understand the TWO with good chemistry they are talking bout in the clip? James MacAvoy & JESSICA BROOKS. Who is this bara Kodetova? The actress named Irulan is Julie Cox

[@vine01]

@@klyanadkmorr my bad. Bara Kodetova is Chani.

[@klyanadkmorr]

Also lol my bad as I like the Chani actress but never tried to remember her name exactly so didn't recognise the woman you named!

[@melvaburke2608]

I *Loved* the Evolution of *Irulan!* Her *Love & Protection* of the Twins *was Unconditional!* But, *Poor* Unloved & Abandoned *Alia!* (Selfish Lady Jessica's fault!) I had *Years* 👏👏👏 *of Wonderful Reading!* 😎

[@Fuzzlewhumper]

Love the march song near the end of the video, such a good series with an excellent sound track.

[@godslaya4563]

James is so beautiful

[@MaharionPendragon]

I LOVE how she kissed him back when he kissed her. Little things like that are awesome and add so much depth to their relationship. After I saw how beautiful Ghanima is in the series with Jessics Brooks playing her, I wanted to name my daughter Ghanima. But then the meaning of the word itself is pretty unfortunate.... so, no.

[@klyanadkmorr]

All names have weird backgrounds and No one really knows or even heard ofGhanima before Dune & people name kids worse, should have named her Ghani atleast

[@MaharionPendragon]

@@klyanadkmorr yeah... I wasn't brave enough, and didn't want to give her a name that she might be ridiculed for for her entire life. But you are right... the way the word sounds is nice; "Ghani, Ghanima". So does "Chani"

[@klyanadkmorr]

Well I never took the time to actually look up if Ghanima was a REAL name, and it is Arabic/Islamic roots so I can see your point but You/she could come back as she represented a honored heroine character in a novel. Or there was Chani. have a gday

[@MaharionPendragon]

@@klyanadkmorr Which pronunciation do you prefer? 'cheney' or 'chah ni'? I prefer 'cheney'. Are you stoked over Villenue's adaptation of Dune? I can't wait...

[@MaharionPendragon]

@@klyanadkmorr it is an actual Arabic word. From wiki: Ghanima is an Arabic word ("الْغَنيمَة") meaning “spoils of war” It can refer to: 1) Ghanima, items subject to the Islamic wealth tax - Khums 2) Yousef VII Ghanima, patriarch of the Chaldean Catholic Church from 1947-1958 3) "Ghanima", a word used in Frank Herbert's novel Dune to refer to an object taken as spoils of war

[@Xamtaro]

The music Just….the music It is so fantastic

[@MilesTeg_cy]

It is by Brian Tyler and I loved the score too. We even used "Farewell" as our wedding theme. Such an amazing work really❤

[@emisthem6562]

It's shocking to me how young the characters appear despite the actors playing Ghanima and Leto being in their 20's or so Especially when I know that Leto is James McAvoy

[@klyanadkmorr]

Well they looked more fitting the age of ascension? to throne responsibility which was by 16-18yo so they looked 15-16yo, to justify their Aunt Alia behaving even more frantic as she'd lose her powers as Regent not just get judged for Abomination. It's like she embraced what she and everyone feared about pre-born weaknesses dangers for false sense of strength control power the Baron fed her. The book has Alia well on her way to embracing Abomination from wanting to have prescient powers like Paul & took too much spice weakening her to the voices finally to the Baron.

[@jahminajeresano8331]

And I was falling in love with him ever since.

[@jpelletier03]

Irulan: ". . . that wasn't funny." lol

[@jb111082]

James and Jessica were perfect for the Twins.

[@WardNightstone]

they actually do look like siblings which helps

[@klyanadkmorr]

They look like the children of the 80's DUNE Paul & Chani, more than this movie's cast actors! lol Another reason why I say until the new movies go thru full book series maybe? Book readers for film grandiose visuals fun watch/find the Lynch (EXTENDED SCENE EDIT 3hrs) movie, then this one to match the first 3 books. If you love the books these movies don't ruin them(fair good faith attempts) and no one's imagination will be exact to Herbert's nor same as each others'.

[@davidgraham2673]

"It wasn't funny" ""But it WAS fun""....

[@MagMaybe]

So.. that's how professor X got his superpowers....

[@mariakelly5]

The woman playing Jessica is Alice Krige.

[@sandelic1]

Ah, the Borg Queen :)

[@christianealshut1123]

@@sandelic1 Yes, she can play formif´dable villains, and in a way, she would have been much better production value as Gaius Helen Mohiam in the miniseries. I did not like the actress they ended up picking; she was too over the top for my taste (that's what heppens if you scrimp on the acting; I think they worked in the Czech Republic and hired a lot of Czech actors becaused it would be cheaper). Alice Krige would have brought a little more subtlety to the character, as I also believe Charlotte Rampling will. That being said, Krige's Borg Queen is one of my favorite Star Trek villains next to Plummer's General Chang and Tom Hardy's Shinzon.

[@wackyruss]

Early 2000’s SyFy CGI! The Sandworms kinda look like brown turds IMO- can’t wait to see ‘em in the new 2020 flick!

[@klyanadkmorr]

imho Better to look like scaly wormy caterpiller 'turds' than PENISES with a slit with teeth! ☺

[@RachelT.773]

Someone get Lili Reinhart on the phone cause she's just about perfect for Ghanima in the Dune series.

[@klyanadkmorr]

By the time or if this new DUNE movies will get to Children of Dune book, Lili might end up too old & or they casting decide for more upsidedown triangular face wide high cheekbones small chin same look as Zendaya/Timothy mix. But she does look alot like Jessica Brooks the actress of this film.

[@RachelT.773]

Oh man, my bad I didn't account for the new cast of characters in the new movie lol. But she is a spitting image of the Ghanima character here.

[@vokasimid5330]

Is no one gonna talk about how Irulan using Bene Gesserit training to stop aging?

[@vokasimid5330]

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[@klyanadkmorr]

That's nitpicking considering the gadzillion thing from the book not inserted into the movie. But in film Jessica mentions it alludes to Alia illegally keeping her youth as an aside 'You look wonderful' - maybe kinda in the garden to Irulan as they walked talked in the garden about her raising the twins.

[@RecklessFables]

I feel like Irulan's eyes should be blue since she lives there too.

[@dancegregorydance6933]

Hers should be because she was born with prescience.

[@CaptTerrific]

@@dancegregorydance6933 Irulan absolutely was not born prescient, nor did she ever become prescient

[@LinkHylia763]

Leto II faced a similar dilemma with Hwi Noree regarding his own humanity, a death of his own making but not not knowing when or how. The difference is Leto accepted the fate of the godhead and the multitude, dividing his awareness in the within each maker; not Shi-Hulud but Shitan!!

[@lamia.thira.lowenstein]

This show is so weird. It lacks in some and exceeds in some. The portrayal of the atreides twins, jessica and irulan were perfect, but somehow something is missing

[@L-mo]

beyond phallic symbolism

[@lilyr6755]

He is faster then The Flash, Superman, etc. Wow. How is she step mother ? Huh ? I thought she was Paul Moadib's concubine of the desert.

[@klyanadkmorr]

?Are you speaking of Irulan? Who was after them(the twins) taking them back to the royal house? She was the official WIFE married to Paul but the step mom not mother and caretaker though their Aunt Alia was their legal regent guardian.

[@Stitchman3875]

Chani was the concubine. She died by this scene.

[@schrodingerdiscovery]

Chani was the concubine and biological mother of Leto. Not Irulan.

[@rukeyser]

So much right, and then wrong WRONG eyes. Cowards ;-)

[@priyajitnaskar3781]

Actually they married each other(Brother & Sister)

[@barbiquearea]

It was a political marriage that they never consummated.

[@Aizen2468]

@@barbiquearea we don't know that they never consummated it.....

[@klyanadkmorr]

@@Aizen2468 True Herbert never WENT THERE like George RR Martin in ASOIAF/GameofThrones with Cersei & Jaime sharing intimacy thru sex, but the psychological under pinning for sibling let alone twin incest was THICK for Atreides twins(FlowersInthe Attic syndrome, 9mo in womb + genetic psychic connection)) and only due to outside forces wanting them to procreate, is why they refused to share sex intimacy (as if Ghanima couldn't prevent getting pregnant or Leto controlling his ejaculate? Inuniverse fictional illogic imho). But by allowing their parents to possess them for counsel advise that also opened them up to abomination as another reason why they were refusing to become physically sexual with each other to share love incase Paul or Chani personae forced them into irreversible full possession. HEY! there's always fanfic! As Ghanima for love & mercy before Leto fully becomes inhuman/worm gives him solace and experience of human love sex devotion physically. - archiveofourown.org/works/308498 (also as unknowing twins with psychic connections meeting as adults never raised together Twincest for Luke & Leia was totally okay logical it's a reality in all species how humanity is at 7-10BILLION today)

[@TheKingTywinLannister]

@@Aizen2468 cool

[@einezcrespo2107]

@@Aizen2468 They never consummated the marriage. Leto couldn't bear children when he became a sandworm-human hybrid. He married Ghanima to keep another House from taking control from him. She and Farad'n Corrino (her mate) had 10 children and they are the ancestors of Siona Atriedes who brought on the downfall and death of Leto centuries later.

[@maxgeorgievsky9527]

Better than 2021 dune movie

[@MalakianM2S]

All three iterations have their merit. This tv series are the most close to the original source, imho, but the production value is not good, and visually it doesn't aged well. Can you elaborate on "better"?

[@snigie1]

​@@MalakianM2S great reply

[@movieseriesstatus]

@@MalakianM2S they definitely meant acting. It has great acting

[@barbarablue2571]

​@@MalakianM2Smore visionary, with better actors, deeper, beautifully written having so poor budget next to Villeneuve's millions. That's where the merit is. Imagine Villeneuve with a law budget.

[@Loki-g3k]

The part 1 was great and truly captured the essence of books.part 2 was good but didn't cover the politics of dune correctly ​and had major changes from the source material. @barbarablue2571

[@alexaurum4610]

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[@renecruz8973]

DUNE Part One 3D rocked yesterday morning🛸🪐👽👾☄️🛰️🚀