China's Population Has Started DECLINING

[@Commietaku]

This video gave me a Covid warning. I wonder if they put it on every video with China mentioned, or maybe it's the population topic? The placement of the KZbin warnings interests me.

[@AhimtarHoN]

@criszis Yes, multiple times, including showing articles about Covid. (around 3:15)

[@G.A.C_Preserve]

They put it on everything, even video about videogame

[@MrSharkFIN]

If Covid is said in the video at all, the warning will come up

[@tailsorange2872]

I don't see a covid-19 warning....... Perhaps it's just you?

[@MrSharkFIN]

@@tailsorange2872 Should be under the video, it's for everyone.

[@jedi_jedi]

South Korea's population has started decreasing too this year, but the fertility rate is way worse (1.3 vs 0.8). It doesn't has the male-heavy problem that china has, but the population decline will be more sharp and severe.

[@jclau3616]

14:37 The stats do include people that were born in the PRC and fled into British HK during all the troubles that happened in the last century. It also includes those that came after the 1997 handover, which some says it is more than a million.

[@dominicdeluca6378]

Thank you. I hadn't considered that

[@mybodyisamachine]

There are a billion people in China so one million people is almost irrelevant.

[@jclau3616]

Yea, many people don’t know Hong Kong was only a cluster of fishing villages when the British first arrived. Then the population exploded, adding about a million every decade through both births and immigration, going from a million after the Japanese surrender, to 7.5 million at the peak. The births had dropped very low after the 90’s but the immigration didn’t stop, allowing 120 one-way permits every day.

[@dragonli1y]

13:50 I will watch you when you’re 81, doing a “hoverboard and talk” and commenting on the population. Old man Toycat will make being old sound cool. The downside is, I will also be pretty old by that point

[@JmKrokY]

True

[@dunce6998]

3:19 I love how he asks about 6 paragraphs response 😂🤣 Anyways here's my 6 paragraph response : On December 31, 2019, China announced the discovery of a cluster of pneumonia cases in Wuhan. The first American case was reported on January 20, and President Donald Trump declared the U.S. outbreak a public health emergency on January 31. Restrictions were placed on flights arriving from China,[17][18] but the initial U.S. response to the pandemic was otherwise slow, in terms of preparing the healthcare system, stopping other travel, and testing.[19][20][21][a][23] The first known American deaths occurred in February. On March 6, 2020, Trump allocated $8.3 billion to fight the outbreak and declared a national emergency on March 13. The government also purchased large quantities of medical equipment, invoking the Defense Production Act of 1950 to assist.[24] By mid-April, disaster declarations were made by all states and territories as they all had increasing cases. A second wave of infections began in June, following relaxed restrictions in several states, leading to daily cases surpassing 60,000. By mid-October, a third surge of cases began; there were over 200,000 new daily cases during parts of December 2020 and January 2021.[25][26] COVID-19 vaccines became available in December 2020, under emergency use, beginning the national vaccination program, with the first vaccine officially approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on August 23, 2021.[27] Studies have shown them to be highly protective against severe illness, hospitalization, and death. In comparison with fully vaccinated people, the CDC found that those who were unvaccinated were from 5 to nearly 30 times more likely to become either infected or hospitalized. There has nonetheless been some vaccine hesitancy for various reasons, although side effects are rare.[28][29][30] There have also been numerous reports that unvaccinated COVID-19 patients have strained the capacity of hospitals throughout the country, forcing many to turn away patients with life-threatening diseases. A fourth rise in infections began in March 2021 amidst the rise of the Alpha variant, a more easily transmissible variant first detected in the United Kingdom. That was followed by a rise of the Delta variant, an even more infectious mutation first detected in India, leading to increased efforts to ensure safety. The January 2022 emergence of the Omicron variant, which was first discovered in South Africa, has led to record highs in hospitalizations and cases, with as many as 1.5 million new infections reported in a single day.[31] State and local responses to the pandemic have included the requirement to wear a face mask in specified situations (mask mandates), prohibition and cancellation of large-scale gatherings (including festivals and sporting events), stay-at-home orders, and school closures.[32] Disproportionate numbers of cases have been observed among Black and Latino populations,[33][34][35] as well as elevated levels of vaccine hesitancy,[36][37] and there has been a sharp increase in reported incidents of xenophobia and racism against Asian Americans.[38][39] Clusters of infections and deaths have occurred in many areas.[b] The COVID-19 pandemic has also led to misinformation and conspiracy theories[42] and has highlighted weaknesses in the U.S. public health system Most people infected with the virus will experience mild to moderate respiratory illness and recover without requiring special treatment. However, some will become seriously ill and require medical attention. Older people and those with underlying medical conditions like cardiovascular disease, diabetes, chronic respiratory disease, or cancer are more likely to develop serious illness. Anyone can get sick with COVID-19 and become seriously ill or die at any age. The best way to prevent and slow down transmission is to be well informed about the disease and how the virus spreads. Protect yourself and others from infection by staying at least 1 metre apart from others, wearing a properly fitted mask, and washing your hands or using an alcohol-based rub frequently. Get vaccinated when it’s your turn and follow local guidance. The virus can spread from an infected person’s mouth or nose in small liquid particles when they cough, sneeze, speak, sing or breathe. These particles range from larger respiratory droplets to smaller aerosols. It is important to practice respiratory etiquette, for example by coughing into a flexed elbow, and to stay home and self-isolate until you recover if you feel unwell.

[@dominicdeluca6378]

And then he doesn't even take a breath between sentences

[@kuba2466]

mad lad

[@bobbobber9211]

YES ! I'm in the middle of my workday, you couldn't publish a video at a better time

[@dominicdeluca6378]

Watch it after work, big bob

[@JmKrokY]

🗿

[@jooeybabbabooey]

🥸

[@carpinchonotcapybara6266]

Same thing happening here in Uruguay, our population has already decreased and will continue decreasing by about 0.1% every year in the near future.

[@TheAmericanCatholic]

Interesting

[@EvillAnime]

same is happening in East Europe, though it was forcibly pushed down by communism

[@darwinjackson3560]

@@EvillAnime communism in east europe? What

[@stevenicol1]

@@darwinjackson3560 haven't you heard of the Soviet Union?

[@jessebest5961]

In China there's a mandatory retirement age of 60 with only a few exceptions like with the upper class.

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

Most likely will be changed in near future the same used to be in europe but now its 65 or higher

[@JmKrokY]

Cool

[@Wackaz]

China and the CPC one of the only countries and governments to truly care about human beings fr

[@thejagtimes]

@@Wackaz ???????

[@wewbie]

@@Wackaz if the CPC cared about us I wouldn’t have to pay for a vpn to reply to this comment

[@idek28]

If America's life expectancy is 76.1 now, that would mean it is below Algeria, Morocco, the Seychelles, and possibly even Tunisia according to worldometer. It is now on par with Syria, a country that has been going through a decade-long civil war.

[@Sypirias]

Wow..

[@Itried20takennames]

True, and largely due to rising obesity in the US (and don’t gloat, UK….as you are a close second in obesity rates).

[@idek28]

@@Itried20takennames i'm not from the uk

[@FictionHubZA]

I mean have you seen the stuff they put in American food?

[@jer1776]

Yep, and no one talks about that. The Covidiots shouldve been more worried about unhealthy eating/lifestyles than vax status.

[@rasmusn.e.m1064]

2:20 The moment toycat decided to forget that India is a democracy 😂

[@extazy9944]

the moment he forgot the usa isnt a democracy

[@dylangtech]

"I did it for you father!"

[@saulspanco854]

By gdp

[@Sednas]

@@extazy9944 it is far more democratic than India

[@Postoronniy]

Classic British move.

[@appa609]

The immigration thing is actually stranger than the statistics shows. AFAIK you can't normally become a Chinese citizen unless you can prove direct descent from people who have held Chinese citizenships. So it's likely that almost 100% of the million or so Americans immigrating to China are at least partly ethnically Chinese. Also, obviously the statistics don't show Taiwan because China considers people moving to and from Taiwan to be domestic movement.

[@randallgvideos]

You should install one of those "(heart) Thanks" buttons. I'm not going to use Patreon, but I'll drop a dollar when I see a good video. Sorry it's just a Canadian dollar. Enjoy the channel, when I was six I got the Encyclopedia Britannica atlas for Christmas. Your videos are like me if I had the Internet in 1985.

[@dimitri--]

3:19 - The United States is currently facing an alarming trend in its life expectancy. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, life expectancy in the US decreased by one-tenth of a year from 2017 to 2018. This is the third year in a row that life expectancy in the US has dropped, and the first time since the 1960s that life expectancy has decreased for three consecutive years. There are a variety of factors contributing to this troubling trend, including rising rates of drug overdose deaths, suicide, heart disease, and obesity. One of the major contributors to the declining life expectancy in the US is drug overdose deaths. The rate of drug overdose deaths in the US has more than doubled in the last decade, with a record high of 70,237 overdose deaths in 2017. This is due in part to the opioid epidemic that has swept across the nation in recent years, leading to the widespread availability of highly addictive and dangerous drugs. In addition, the increase in synthetic opioids such as fentanyl has made the situation even more dire. Another key factor in the declining life expectancy in the US is suicide. Suicide rates in the US have been steadily increasing for the past two decades, reaching a record high of 47,173 suicides in 2017. This increase to be driven in part by mental health issues, such as depression and anxiety, as well as the availability of firearms and other weapons. The rising rates of heart disease in the US is another critical factor in the declining life expectancy. Heart disease is the leading cause of death in the US, accounting for about one in four deaths. The prevalence of heart disease is due to a variety of factors, including poor diet, lack of exercise, smoking, and high levels of stress. Finally, the increasing rate of obesity in the US is also having a significant impact on life expectancy. The rate of obesity has more than tripled since the 1960s, and currently affects over 40% of adults in the US. This is due in part to the widespread availability of unhealthy and processed foods, as well as a lack of physical activity. In conclusion, the declining life expectancy in the US is due to a variety of factors, including drug overdose deaths, suicide, heart disease, and obesity. It is essential that the US takes steps to address these issues, in order to reverse this troubling trend. This could include providing more resources for mental health services and addiction treatment, promoting healthier diets, and encouraging more physical activity. It is only through collective efforts that the US can succeed in preserving and improving the life expectancy of its citizens.

[@redcrown5154]

blacks

[@trolley01]

The alternative to making people spending more of their life is making them more productive during that short time that they are, maybe stuff like automation will help with that in the future?

[@JonBrownSherman]

This is honestly amazing news and makes me feel a lot better about the future.

[@michaelthompson679]

It’s fucking abysmal news. The worlds factory won’t have enough workers to produce the goods you need. The global economy could collapse because of this

[@Serocco]

Why is that amazing news?

[@isaacgund7550]

I study economics. This is terrifying 😳

[@eatinsomtin9984]

Average person who has no idea about how the world works

[@isaacdalziel5772]

I feel like China has just kinda "skipped through" having its own industrial revolution. It happened so quickly they didn't get the population benefits

[@underhorse5367]

They definitely get the population benefits, China’s success on manufacturing in the last 40 years depends on large population a lot.

[@isaacdalziel5772]

@@underhorse5367 Europe - 127,000,000 in 1800 to 748,000,000 in 2022, increased by 6x, still rising China population - 300,000 in 1800 to 1,400,000 in 2022, increased by 4.5x, beginning to decrease So China has not had as big of a population increase as Europe, and this pattern is going to accelerate now, since Europe's population is increasing and China's is decreasing. Of course, there are a lot of factors here, it's not necessarily due to the weird way they've modernised.

[@curiosity1324]

just have a touch grass policy so that gamers have to find girlfriends

[@Schizz76]

theres too little women in China compared to men. 722 million male inhabitants and 690 million female inhabitants to be exact

[@JmKrokY]

💀

[@appa609]

@@Schizz76 The issue isn't mainly driven by the pure numerical difference. It's more so the fact that 20-50 year old men want to marry 20-30 year old women. And it's fairly likely the older men will actually win because they have more money, leaving like 20 million 20-30 year old men who can't find a wife. I honestly think that if China goes to war in the next twenty years this will be the root cause. Excess dispossessed young men are a massive expansionary force.

[@EvillAnime]

that's not gonna give them enough money to raise children

[@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986]

Video game consoles are actually illegal in china so blaming gamers really doesn’t make sense (in this case) only PC gamers

[@lukelin8709]

As a Chinese, I can confirm this

[@ISplash22]

Hello Eswatini, great video c:

[@yougoslavia]

Japan's population decreases by about 400k per year and China's population lost more than that as soon as it started declining.

[@randallparr4349]

I am older than the life expectancy either USA or China.😊

[@EpreTroll]

Yo France is complaining about their 64year old retirement age. They made that 67 here in the Netherlands and are already thinking of making that higher. All the while letting in more migrants and not having a decent birth rate. We're so fucked

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

As a dutch I might wish to remind you if us dutch had more children we would have positive population growth but thanks to foreigners keeping the birth rate high we have a positive population growth otherwise it would have been worse and put even more pressure on the pension system...

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

In short term migrants can cost money especially refugees but in long term they yield money as seen with how ukranian refugees are very beneficial and employed in low income sectors which have lack of workers

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

But yeah our retirement age is hecked up but at least our pension for time being covers the expenses meanwhile outside of europe pension doesnt fully cover all expenses

[@EpreTroll]

@@GwainSagaFanChannel Great being outpopulated by foreigners. If thats the only solution. Thats basically a slow death sentence

[@Rialagma]

The migrants are literally helping your pensioners lmao why even mention it here.

[@kenji4330]

so america is want boorgir, mone is no, they crypto their gamble, they mone, they eat boorgir, they dye

[@hiramzaldana153]

pretty much

[@JmKrokY]

4:23 I remember a whole Andrew Andrews video about it

[@markusklyver6277]

The same is true for Europe as well.

[@raxxcon]

3:16 Here you go! In the past six years, there have been several factors that have contributed to a decrease in life expectancy. One major factor has been the ongoing opioid epidemic in the United States. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), opioid overdose deaths have increased by more than 400% since 1999, and in 2017 alone, more than 47,000 people died from opioid overdoses. This has had a significant impact on life expectancy, particularly in communities most affected by the epidemic. Another factor that has contributed to a decrease in life expectancy is the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. The pandemic has resulted in widespread illness and death, with more than 22 million confirmed cases and over 382,000 deaths in the United States alone as of January 2021. The pandemic has also had a significant impact on mental health, with increased rates of depression and anxiety reported among both those who have contracted the virus and those who have not. A third factor that has contributed to a decrease in life expectancy is the rise in non-communicable diseases (NCDs), such as heart disease, diabetes, and cancer. According to the World Health Organization, NCDs are responsible for 70% of deaths worldwide and are on the rise in many low- and middle-income countries. Climate change also plays a role in decreasing life expectancy. Extreme weather events and natural disasters have caused displacement, injury, and death. Furthermore, air pollution, which is linked to climate change, is a major risk factor for heart and lung diseases, which are leading causes of death worldwide. Economic inequality also plays a role in decreasing life expectancy. According to a study by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, life expectancy is lower for people living in areas with higher levels of income inequality. This is likely due to a lack of access to healthcare, healthy food, and safe housing in these areas. Finally, poor access to healthcare can also decrease life expectancy. In many low-income countries, people do not have access to the medical care and treatments they need to manage chronic diseases and prevent premature death. Additionally, in many high-income countries, access to healthcare is limited for certain populations, such as people living in rural areas or those with low incomes.

[@benposthumus4076]

You actually did it!

[@Derkiboi]

@@benposthumus4076 America moment

[@leMiG31]

1 child policy is like kneecaping your own growth

[@hvermout4248]

A declining population is not a "Big Problem". On the contrary, it is a necessity. Most of the environmental problems that we have are first of all the result of there being too many people on the world.

[@michaelthompson679]

This is a dumb comment. Having a declining working population while having an increasing elderly population is a distaste for the welfare state. And you need young people to drive the innovation needed to deal with climate change

[@hvermout4248]

@@michaelthompson679 That's true, of course: It's a distaste that we have to learn to cope with. But we have grown tenfold since the start of industrialisation. 8 billion (!) people now. We are deforesting the earth to supply for these people. We have no more space for mammals that are not directly useful for us. And then there is the climate change you are referring to. There are simply too many of us, and that's a magnitude more pressing problem than "having so many old people to take care of".

[@michaelthompson679]

@@hvermout4248 having a fertility rate of 2 isn’t insane or unsustainable, won’t lead to exponential growth in the long run. Chinas fertility rate is closer to 1. I would also like to add that around 70 per cent of the worlds solar panels are made in China, how do you plan to make up the shortfall exactly

[@hvermout4248]

@@michaelthompson679 Fertility rate in the world has been far far above 2 in the past 250 years. It HAS led to the current unsustainable situation, and therefore has to be reversed. Not only in China. Solar panels can be made everywhere. Happy if China continues to do it. (speaking of dumb comments ...)

[@ShahJee101]

rather than trying to complicate the matter, the solution for this is flexible immigration policy and the young people from poor nations can flock into china and the issue is fixed

[@thepap000]

I turned off my adblock and wasn't even shown an add. Have you read the book called count down? It's about human fertility rates

[@nerf2752]

2:23 USA the world's largest democracy. excuse me ????

[@saulspanco854]

By Gdp

[@hawk992]

@@saulspanco854 GDP is not measured with the term large.

[@joemiller947]

India isn't really a democracy anymore, and China certainly isn't one

[@dazednconfuzedsean7]

So that's why I'm told I need to work until in 67 until I can retire

[@YYLiow]

AI is just gonna replace most of the jobs in the world today anyway, this is not farming century where larger population equals larger output of food. Eventually there will be a equilibrium. Lower population is good for combating climate change also, less resources used. 700 million in 2100 is still a lot of people. US is perfectly fine at 300 million anyways.

[@therealdia]

KZbin put a Covid infobar on this video. Why tho? What are they trying to imply?

[@K1989L]

Maybe we should have like 4 day work week or equally short 5 days and no hard stop at the retirement. We have that hard stop at 70. When you turn 70 your employment is automatically terminated. Though some will work after that too. But maybe we should look at more how you could keep yourself healthy enough to continue working.. maybe with even less hours. Now that I am at my working age I think back at my interrail trip I did back when I was a teenager. That's not happening for a long time. Maybe after retirement? And that is a shame. I am still young and healthy. It would be nice that I could have a bit of time off from work just to see the world or something. Like a month or two. Now I need to wait until I am in my sixties. There should be an option to take some time off if you wanted to without resigning. If you have been working "non-stop" for 30-40 years.. damn right you are going to retire. But if you had the change to have time off every now and then.. What keeps you from continuing to work and enjoying life?

[@underhorse5367]

They have it in Europe, 4 days work week

[@fehzorz]

Technology is making us more productive and jobs are being automated. So the increased dependency ratio is being matched by that. Sucks for those thinking the outcome would be shorter work days and work weeks.

[@earlt612]

Yikes. Guess the one child policy wasn't the greatest of ideas EDIT:grammar

[@AhimtarHoN]

Well if they didn't do it, they'd face different problems instead, there's not an easy solution

[@Schizz76]

@@AhimtarHoN problems worsened by bad government policies. Like at least a two child policy would do just fine, the population won't drop and it means that families might have both boys and girls (which combats the gender inbalance in China rn)

[@LewisHillier88]

Has anyone ever told you, you look like a young Otto Witt from the film Zulu?

[@annexcanada9987]

Peter Zeihan has been saying this for years

[@Derkiboi]

a lot of nations are dealing with birth rate issues

[@will580]

Don't worry toycat, one Chinese couple can take care of their aging parents, grandparents and raise 3-4 children with both people working full time.

[@lordrefrigerator]

Makes me wonder, what would happen if population never started declining?

[@Majorwindy]

Without a rise in productivity, poverty and famine.

[@DOSFS]

A demographic time bomb that predicts during the pass 50 years, too many mouths to fed with too few resources so.... UN in the Expanse

[@samuelcheung4799]

@@Majorwindy As a person living in Hong Kong/China, I can safely say that productivity would have risen either way.

[@swazzercool9060]

Would be good, until some point when we are way to many people

[@Nooticus]

In my personal opinion, this video is incredibly accurate and based. It’s so hard to get takes that are actually backed up by facts and only facts! Props to you toycat!

[@australianjackaroo6660]

Starts with a laugh.🤣😂🤣💟💟💟

[@siyacer]

who could have predicted this?

[@Schizz76]

I might dislike communism but DAMN, i dont think that I want a ultra-nationalist American weeb in my reccomended. like what the fuck is the "Commonwealth of Nippon"??? That shit is mad crazy

[@wafity]

Fantastic

[@BrianH1313]

Interesting. Yes, I will ESP send that 6 page report to you in your sleep again. You are more likely to die when you get older? Mind blown! Yes, you use the most cutting edge maps and I can see you put a lot of money on this channel. Hope you have some free time.

[@nihel3144]

this is a disaster because of just how much the world economy is dependant on that cheap chinese labor, cut that in half and this will cause a global economic crisis. it may be possible to partically replace it with other east asian countries, india, or african nations, but it doesnt seem like they are ready for it no to mention the fact that we only have roughly 70 years to do it. there is also a concern about what CCP may do facing this existential crisis, they may end-up collapsing under the pressure from all sides which may result in nation-wide chaos and re-activation of separatist movements. things are nowhere near as light as toycat is suggesting, it is borderline mis-information. this crisis should not be taken lightly.

[@PeterAuto1]

producing in china isn't that cheap anymore. I found 1300$. It's lower than USA but in many countries it's much lower. But the problem you described could still be there, China has a large manufacturing industry, and gained infrastructure and know how missing in other parts of the world.

[@Postoronniy]

This decline will not happen overnight, there will be time to adjust.

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

South east asia already started taking over jobs that are cheap labour from china china is now already shifting to medium labour

[@StuffandThings_]

So basically, you want Chinese people to suffer for your cheap products? Shame on you. America has such a high standard of living due to actually having the resources to accommodate its population, and the only way other nations will be able to achieve the same thing is by depopulating. Plus, automation will easily pick up the slack, worker productivity is still on the rise.

[@staraptorflock3661]

Xi: I would like to announce the new policy of state mandated girlfriends

[@DOSFS]

Mandatory baby*

[@staraptorflock3661]

@@DOSFS That is a good way to build loyalty. Imagine finding out you exist because that state ordered your birth

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

Xi: to solve the shortage of women we also allow femboys to be qualified as girlfriends

[@4rkang31]

please pronounce the capital of Burkina Faso out loud next video

[@realhuman5688]

6:04 same lol

[@appa609]

If they manage the population decline gracefully it could be a really good thing for the country. 1.4B is too many. China is only marginally capable of feeding itself using super intensive agricultural techniques that are not sustainable in the long run. Around 800-900M, the country becomes fairly self sufficient. A shrinking population also makes it possible to ease the pressure on the housing market and natural resources. It means per capita energy consumption can continue to rise without requiring catastrophic levels of new coal plants. The natural environment might be allowed to recover. The young people being born now can have a lot less stressful lives since there's so much less competition for good univerities and good jobs, and they'll ultimately inherit the wealth of their parents and grandparents. And in aggregate, these factors, especially relieving housing and academic competition, will ultimately help recover the birth rates as having kids becomes financially viable for more and more families.

[@moversti92]

mspaint supermacy

[@SolarisGO]

how do you say soylent green in chinese?

[@Cztwastaken]

Finally

[@nitropicxd]

usa retirement age: non existent

[@Bayoll]

Damn, economics are hard

[@liamwhitney3055]

Ah yes populatyion

[@cubirk]

i mean at the point they are at i dont think less people is bad

[@DOSFS]

Problem is the curve is too steep plus CCP want to challenge or even surpass US but they can't do it if this continues so---

[@Schizz76]

economic problems in the future are a majopr problem

[@DopeSauceBenevolence]

Population decline is the best thing to happen for humanity because less mouths.

[@googlespetraccoon3588]

In my country is at 55

[@Postoronniy]

Robots will save us!

[@phantasma6406]

What about the the solution nobody is talking about. Make the children work

[@nerf2752]

India numba 1 🎉

[@appa609]

Pension is just a bad idea in general. There's no reason the Government should be taking a big chunk of your money during your youth to "safeguard" until your retirement. The government is spending a trillion dollars a year that they don't have. Everyone should just get all their money and use it for what they want. If you don't save enough to retire then it's your own damn fault.

[@micayahritchie7158]

This is the single worst take I've heard in my entire 22 years of life

[@zainmudassir2964]

I think lower population is good for world overall.

[@BoraCM]

The US isn’t the world’s largest democracy. India is.

[@wizzerrdd]

14:12 end world labor 2030

[@ryandoesstuffapparently1540]

I think that what China has going for them is their stance toward science and medical advancement. The US holds a lot of things back, because Jesus, but China is more focused on progress. That’s how they’ve become such a power, and I don’t see that trend of advancement waning. Sure, their workforce is going down, but workforce doesn’t matter when you can just automate jobs and support people as though they were retired anyways.

[@redcrown5154]

how much did Xi pay you to say this?

[@skazka3789]

​@@redcrown5154 Facts hurt

[@redcrown5154]

@@skazka3789 indeed, that is why china seethes so hard

[@skazka3789]

@@redcrown5154 cope

[@redcrown5154]

@@skazka3789 ?

[@martonbalazskajari5424]

China should tell their people to not die

[@nyreongirgenti2643]

Interesting

[@xaverlustig3581]

2:20 The world's largest democracy should be India

[@LexieLPoyser]

India is the world’s largest democracy, not the United States.

[@effexon]

@14:50 this is huge problem.... 2M ppl to US.... not everyone can migrate to US... and likely more would do this if they had means and money for ticket

[@mvalthegamer2450]

But a lot of people can. The Mississippi basin can fit a billion more people if it is developed like SEA, for instance.

[@effexon]

@@mvalthegamer2450 well, absorb whole of south america , half of china, some of india (younger folks).... 1Bn people USA would be interesting human experiment SEA works , dunno of life quality especially for family.... it can be work culture there, housing prices in eg singapore, hong kong definitely are problem

[@StuffandThings_]

@@effexon 1 billion people in the US would absolutely destroy the American standard of living, there's a reason that people here live so well. Its because it is one of the few large, technologically advanced countries on the planet without overpopulation issues.

[@effexon]

@@StuffandThings_ ah, makes sense.... EU/europe has now over 500million and more coming from former soviet countries + huge immigration... no wonder we are now poorer continent than US/NA... it was other way around some time ago before WW1 (UK hegemony + other powerful countries and all that). Perhaps US could handle same 500million due to energy reserves, but it still causes issues, pressure in city housing prices and other things. So same resources divided with more people means lower life quality.

[@StuffandThings_]

@@effexon Yeah, its also important to keep in mind that the US has vast quantities of some of the richest farmland on the planet in the Mississippi basin, and valuable trading ports along the coasts to boost GDP. Its practically the ideal country economically, with lots of resources and opportunities for wealth generation spread amongst relatively few people. US is already facing issues with people flocking to cities in the desert southwest which should have never existed in the first place (all the low reservoir levels that keep making the news), but that's quite a localized issue and the US as a whole can still handle its population quite well. But it just goes to show that even the US is not invulnerable to such pressures. Western Europe still has pretty good economics, but much of this is due to old business empires from the colonial days which still exploit the third world to inflate what that continent is capable of. Heavy use of fertilizers, an unusually large amount of temperate land to farm, and advanced economies that produce high tech goods and services also helps, though climate change is beginning to take its toll on the former. Its also worth mentioning that Europe has essentially no intact nature left (pretty much the last minute tracts are along the Carpathians, preserved by the communist regimes, and the useless swamps around the borders of Poland, Belarus, and Ukraine). Now, thankfully the glacial maximums wiped out most of Europe's unique nature long before humans started wrecking the place, so there wasn't a whole lot to lose, but this is not the case in the rest of the world, and Asia has already lost vast tracts of unique ecosystems due to overpopulation. Point is, Europe was already in a rather unique position to handle its immense population as well as it has without huge consequences, so for the rest of the world the situation is likely to be even worse.

[@jamez6398]

Of course China has a higher life expectancy than the USA. The USA has a massive obesity crisis. In China, you don't get that. I mean, you don't get freedom or human rights, either. You do get smog, though. I think I'd rather live in the USA than China despite the lower life expectancy. Just sayin'...

[@samuelcheung4799]

Me, a Chinese, before watching the video: No this can't be right, China still has quite a few undeveloped areas Ten seconds of googling later: Holy crap, Covid and obesity have done a number on the US these past years

[@MidwestArtMan]

The US also has a big opioid crisis. Overdose deaths have been skyrocketing lately. I've heard people say a lot of the fentanyl is manufactured in China, which I find interesting.

[@banditkeithkingofduelmonsters]

This is all preventable. Don't do drugs or over eat. This isn't a problem for you, only compulsive weak minded people.

[@Purboll]

India surrpased China in population :o

[@SadatEverything]

India will become superpower soon after this

[@pebblepod30]

lucky china, wish it was the whole world.

[@xyeB]

Why the hell are you happy about this it’s horrifying

[@Cgg222]

Ok

[@BlueLynx1904]

Why is a natural fall in population such a bad thing? There's too many people on this earth anyways

[@Schizz76]

economy will get fucked up, which can already be seen in Japan and is the reason why their government is trying so hard to get an increasing population.

[@Postoronniy]

The main problem is not with total population decline (though that also will affect the potential economic productivity and consumption, and thus will have an effect on the global scale too), but with the declining proportion of working people to the elderly - meaning that pension, medical care, and other social support systems will begin to implode if another solution is not found to keep them functioning. For example, advanced AI and robotics can help to support the declining labor force, and Japan, with similar problems, is already blazing the trail in that direction.

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

In short the west and east is fucked the thirld world is going to be fine for a while since population is still rising there rapidly but its stagnating anywhere else

[@StuffandThings_]

Because a bunch of rich people won't be able to get quite as rich, its easier to exploit larger populations. The end of feudalism in Europe was brought on by the depopulation from the Black Plague, where peasants were actually able to demand more for their labor. The modern ultra rich are concerned about the same thing, and for them its quite easy to literally buy public opinion through various means. Sad to see how easily people will latch on to it, though. The future will already have a devastated environment due to our overpopulation, the world simply does not have the resources for this many people.

[@cornheadahh]

This will probably just turn into a big meme just like how we had a hole in the Ozone layer, y2k, or how there was a worry about overpopulation a decade ago. In 20 years nothing will happen and people will forget all the predictions were wrong. Wouldn't the average wage go up if population goes down? It would mean there's more open job positions needed to support society so the average person will become richer.

[@mvalthegamer2450]

The only reason Y2K and ozone layer went away is because we fixed those problems with some pretty heavy regulations and a lot of innovation. In China's case, you would need to fine everyone not having babies a substantial amount for this to work

[@Ultra_fast0-0]

@@mvalthegamer2450 no one fixed y2k, it was literally just a myth. You lot are so stupid lmao.

[@CommieComrade69]

Ozone hole was a massive deal and it took a lot to fix it. How is it a meme? Things don't just solve themselves

[@jameshitselberger5845]

I cannot imagine a population decline for any country having dire consequences. A decline makes it economical to use more efficient means of production and justifies mechanization. Declines in populations give more hope for the survival of species such as pandas and reduces pressure to destroy natural habitats.

[@LuKing2]

That's only true if all countries decline by roughly the same amount at the same time, if China's population rapidly declines while other countries are still on the rise, that eventually just means China will become more economically and politically irrelevant globally, compared to other countries. Basically being "outpaced" because their demographics can't krep up with the rest of the world.

[@jameshitselberger5845]

@@LuKing2 As you are probably aware, Africa is the fastest growing region in terms of population growth with a country such as Nigeria predicted to reach one billion persons as its current growth rate. It will not be a happy world. The U.S. has 350 million persons now and still consumes 25% of the world's natural resources produced each year. Higher populations and higher standards of living mean greater demands on natural resources. Both these countries are already overpopulated, not to mention China and India.

[@australianjackaroo6660]

Wrong

[@eatinsomtin9984]

@@jameshitselberger5845 25% of its pollution, not resources. Get a grip and become more educated and realise that overpopulation is not a problem.

[@Frogboyaidan]

Oep

[@roundedosu]

population been falling for a decade or so and is now in low 1.3b

[@aritzlizarragaolascoaga6254]

You should make a short about China being overtaken by India in 2023 as the most populated country in the world.

[@trafichat]

At long last, the fall has begun.

[@Schizz76]

for the global economy? Probably idk

[@trafichat]

@@Schizz76 integrating a communist dictatorship that has been doing forced abortions and steralizations for decades into the global economy was definitely a awful no good very bad idea. I'm mostly looking forward to the downfall of the CCP. It's a crime against humanity pretending to be a government.

[@Schizz76]

@@trafichat I’d also love the fall of the communist regime, but not at the expense of innocent people that share my race.

[@hewhomustnotbenamed5912]

It's ridiculous to refer to the US as China's Western counterpart. They have vastly different climates, resources, cultures, and histories. China should be compared to Taiwan, especially since they have a common history and people. Edit: Bill Kong (in the replies) made a good point about Taiwan being far too small to compare to China. I revoke my proposal of it as a comparison. But I still hold that it shouldn't be compared to the US, for the reasons I gave.

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

Modernday taiwanese history is similar with chinese history but taiwan was settled by pacifician tribes and is a minority group nowdays before dutch colonization and after that chinese settling of the island

[@hewhomustnotbenamed5912]

@@GwainSagaFanChannel fair enough. Still sounds like a better comparison then the US simply because of the fact that there is now a Chinese majority.

[@julianshepherd2038]

First and second biggest economies so...

[@appa609]

The US is pretty close to China's Western counterpart. They're two countries occupying a similar lattitude range of similar size and competing for the same geopolitical influence. Taiwan is culturally and ethnically Chinese but it's also a tiny island politically dependent on foreign powers.

[@gertigig3373]

well, its only an issue if you dont expect jobs to get automated in the coming decades.

[@viorp5267]

I'm OK with that

[@Schizz76]

I'd be ok with some Russian or Turk colonising your land and recreating the Armenian genocide, but idk. Maybe with Georgians?

[@Maxtrius145]

This isn’t a problem?

[@Schizz76]

for the Chinese (and maybe world economy), it could be. IF we take what happened to Japan as a prediciton of China's future (dropping population, increasing elderly population compared to younger generations), we can guess that China'sw economy might go down the drain. Well maybe not that bad but who knows

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

If only people started producing cheap labour goods again since even in africa and latin america cheap chinese goods replace domestic made goods in third world

[@Schizz76]

@@GwainSagaFanChannel its beginning to happen, China before the population drop (and to some extent the Americans and French) had begun to move their production of cheap goods to many African countries, but not so much Latin American(?). Or maybe I'm wrong

[@PkPvre]

Maybe China will be the first to set a maximum age. That would be a cool experiment.

[@andrewwinslow9315]

it declined years ago according to some sources

[@MEMEToooooo]

A

[@Ryan-in3ot]

i got ads in chinese on this video

[@rockaboy001]

lets goooo AMERICA NUMBER 1!!!!!!

[@Wackaz]

Same is going on in Japan; China isn't the only country in the East going through this trajectory, yet for some reason people are laser focused on the communist country because they want to see it fail for no reason - but y'all keep doing what you're doing.

[@ibx2cat]

it's because they have 1.4billion people. more than the population of 3 continents combined lol.

[@DrinkiePinkie]

People have been talking about Japan's declining population for ages, people are focusing on it because it's hit a historical peak - also because they're one of the world's most populated countries. I won't say that every person is not bias and will talk about China fairly, but it sounds like you're just getting defensive and don't like people criticising your politics when you bring up the communism point.

[@aycoded7840]

1) Loads of people have spoken About Japan 2) China is the most heavily populated country in the world 3) People should be more interested in the only other country that rivals the most powerful country in the world 4) You seem like you're just seeing things that aren't there, and ignoring other obvious things due to bias. 5) Nothing wrong with covering news that would likely have a large enough noticeable impact on the globe.

[@StuffandThings_]

Because Japan shows that depopulating does not cause some sort of apocalypse like some alarmists think, their GDP has stagnated but due to the declining population GDP per capita is still going up and they are still an incredibly high tech civilization. China has lots of compounding issues, so its easy for people to correlate the various issues of the CCP with depopulation and claim that it will indeed cause an apocalypse. Its just cherry picking, that's all.

[@____Cookie____]

That moment when you protest against the Chinese government

[@QuarioQuario54321]

And now will they allow for unlimited children and force pregnancies?

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

The chinese government is now financing people to have children something the west also could do but its very costly

[@Parker307]

I would not put it past China, if they see this is a big problem, to force pregnancies

[@appa609]

I remember when the retirement age in China was 55. It seems like they have started adjusting but it's not fast enough. In reality, in the modern economy, a 70 year old is generally more productive than a 20 year old.