Xiaomi EVs Criticized for Poor Quality, Using Aluminum Instead of Copper, 40% Cancellation Rate

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China Observer

China Observer

Ай бұрын

On March 28th, Chinese technology company Xiaomi announced the launch of their first electric vehicle, the SU7. The standard retail price is less than 220,000 yuan, equivalent to roughly 31 thousand US dollars, undercutting market expectations and signalling an intent to compete with Tesla. However, many people have observed striking resemblances between the SU7 and the Porsche Taycan, not just in appearance but also in the design of the car key and the key battery replacement. Some internet users jokingly suggested renaming the SU7 as "Bao Shi mi," which means Porche Mi, a combined name for Porche and Xiaomi.
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@benyomovod6904
@benyomovod6904 Ай бұрын
You buy cheap, you buy twice
@user-qr5ob5ww2j
@user-qr5ob5ww2j Ай бұрын
unless it broke after a week or a month. Then you buy a dozen times... but most people can't change their car as regular as their shirt... no matter how cheap the car is.
@curtisducati
@curtisducati Ай бұрын
@@user-qr5ob5ww2j China has used way too much tech , stupid computers on the dash board and crazy tech , just more to go wrong , even the seats have motors and switches , just a handle would have adjusted a seat , that will never fail just a simple handle ! Not 6 motors and an ECU and wiring to move a seat ?
@zenon7094
@zenon7094 Ай бұрын
Anyone who thinks they can get some kind of Porsche light for just under 40.000 euros must go see his doctor. That is still not a small amount of money. But it is like almost everything in China...a cheap copy with absolutely no quality.
@aeronYTco
@aeronYTco Ай бұрын
You buy cheap, you buy more than twice. You get what you pay for.
@grabir01
@grabir01 Ай бұрын
41k is cheap?
@vzzzb2vzzzb124
@vzzzb2vzzzb124 Ай бұрын
In the United States, in the 1960s and 1970s aluminum was used in home wiring for cheapness' sake. Later there were a lot of problem with oxidation and loosening of connectors due to significant expansion/contraction. Afterward, the US went back to copper wire. Using aluminum wire indicates that the manufacturer does not intent the vehicle to last a long time.
@user-fi2sg9ih4e
@user-fi2sg9ih4e Ай бұрын
Guess what tesla use? aluminum wire? or copper wire?
@quickcinema8031
@quickcinema8031 Ай бұрын
I think aluminum is not the problem. You should isolate it well and use the right wire thickness accordingly.
@NoahGooder
@NoahGooder Ай бұрын
it could also be a method of accidental forced obsolescence so the user needs to buy a new car sooner.
@chiriematthieu
@chiriematthieu Ай бұрын
Because in the 60s alluminium was still new tech for civilian market. But guess what, alluminium is quite comment nowdays in cars buildings and plant. Copper price have rose and we know how to produce better alluiminium cable. Most EV like tesla use alluminium wire. Alluminium has much better electrical property than copper.
@michaellegg9381
@michaellegg9381 Ай бұрын
Even to this day aluminium wire and high current start's car and house fire's!!! Even aluminium speaker wire is absolutely garbage that breaks when setting up speakers or it won't work at all having many breaks along the length of the wires!! If you have a Ev with aluminium wire you are guaranteed to have a fire
@DC9848
@DC9848 Ай бұрын
Europe should not allow these vehicles to enter the European market. Cars that loose suspension or batteries that catch on fire on a highway are very dangerous to other vehicles on the road
@eriksvensson2098
@eriksvensson2098 Ай бұрын
Should be standard testing no matter where the car comes from in order to get into market. No reason to cherry pick!
@manuelr1405
@manuelr1405 Ай бұрын
and where to dump these toxic products?
@Erik-Winters
@Erik-Winters Ай бұрын
@@eriksvensson2098 That is not enough, because if a product is "designed" to destroy and take over a market, then that market should ban it.
@se7en910
@se7en910 Ай бұрын
China ​@@manuelr1405
@alxRo
@alxRo Ай бұрын
Europian cars are trash the break down all the time with very expensive repairs also!!!europian cars are very sensitive
@gersonalves8474
@gersonalves8474 Ай бұрын
If people are so out of money, why do they spend what little they have left on garbage? Doesn't make any sense!
@mah7961
@mah7961 Ай бұрын
Because they are shallow and materialistic.
@patrickt49
@patrickt49 Ай бұрын
Because a lot of people are not only poor but dumb as well
@banialuki8012
@banialuki8012 Ай бұрын
poor, dumb and rised in communist state with piles of garbage
@dontcare7086
@dontcare7086 Ай бұрын
There's a small middle-class. 84% of Chinese are in poverty. China's poverty line is $182 USD a year. There's only 150 million Chinese who earn 3,000-5,000 yuan a month. This group of 150 million is the one wasting all their money on this constant crap. Also that woman is likely very wealthy. She was able to withdraw 30,000 yuan in a single day. The vast majority of Chinese can't withdraw 1,000 yuan a day. They have the money but can't take it out. The banks are only allowing the rich to make large transactions.
@D0NU75
@D0NU75 Ай бұрын
it is a common thing; a low income person may feel they have acquisition power by buying something expensive, like a flat screen or a cellphone that it is usually reserved for higher income workers. i saw this all the time working in retail, ironically enough it is the wealthy people the ones who tend to be super stingy with the smallest things.
@Onion_Knights
@Onion_Knights Ай бұрын
copy and paste, copying the looks, but left out the quality
@KangoV
@KangoV Ай бұрын
Seems like the meaning "Made In China" still stands.
@xhagast
@xhagast Ай бұрын
It is a guarantee of quality. BAD quality is guaranteed.
@kamsunleong6648
@kamsunleong6648 Ай бұрын
​@@xhagast Yet they sell better than any other ev here in Thailand.
@olias2716
@olias2716 Ай бұрын
Made from chinesium.......a mixture of dust and air...!!!!
@parnamsaini4751
@parnamsaini4751 Ай бұрын
The car stood up to the Made in China name
@user-jy2ci5ox9v
@user-jy2ci5ox9v Ай бұрын
And always will.
@tjdjultima
@tjdjultima Ай бұрын
Standard, pro, and max.. just like Apple… 🙄
@NYJGreatness
@NYJGreatness Ай бұрын
They even copied that 😂
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk Ай бұрын
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
@birbir9862
@birbir9862 Ай бұрын
But where is the Apple car?😅
@alvindanica
@alvindanica Ай бұрын
@@birbir9862your comprehensions is really amazing 😂😂😂😂
@ishakshamsudin8585
@ishakshamsudin8585 Ай бұрын
@@birbir9862 It refers to the apple phone.
@flower_k8713
@flower_k8713 Ай бұрын
if it is made in China, don’t expect too much
@jackytan378
@jackytan378 Ай бұрын
Except the scams, those are world class
@alexwong2422
@alexwong2422 Ай бұрын
you realise the teslas made in china are generally better built than the teslas built in the US
@fredyyfredfreddy
@fredyyfredfreddy Ай бұрын
@@alexwong2422 They were engineered in the USA though where 100% of the R&D budget went to.. R&D.
@JuliusJames4u
@JuliusJames4u Ай бұрын
@@fredyyfredfreddy Incorrect. But nice try!
@xraylife
@xraylife Ай бұрын
I have a Xiaomi 98" TV when it gets warm you can see the LED backlight squares showing through on light scenes. I always have a fan running behind it all the time, and just stop using it totally in the hot weather as it smells like its going to burn up. I would never consider buying any car from a Chinese company
@lucaveneri313
@lucaveneri313 Ай бұрын
The chinese girl that talks about “Consumers Rights“ is too funny😂 .. in a Country where Human rights worth less than zero….
@Shinobubu
@Shinobubu Ай бұрын
no human rights. no property rights. the idea they even have consumer rights is indeed laughable.
@chronoshin8597
@chronoshin8597 Ай бұрын
It won't be funny if you learn more.
@Negev-Israel
@Negev-Israel Ай бұрын
Better than UK 😂 where you can get arrested for hosting a British flag
@GODMODEPLUS
@GODMODEPLUS Ай бұрын
Usa is the best
@ciklop4206
@ciklop4206 Ай бұрын
I'd rather be gay in China than in paki land
@danarcher3415
@danarcher3415 Ай бұрын
Buy a car made by a phone company? Smart and innovative! Truly brave 🙏.
@keithframe3489
@keithframe3489 Ай бұрын
I bet if Apple make a car, you'd be in line to buy it too.
@jackstraw262
@jackstraw262 Ай бұрын
I would 100% give apple a deposit today if they were making a car
@keithframe3489
@keithframe3489 Ай бұрын
@@jackstraw262 Emm, Apple back down. They invest billions already but cancel the project. Apple just can't do it lmao.
@jackstraw262
@jackstraw262 Ай бұрын
@@keithframe3489 right. Which is why *if* they decided to, I’d trust they would be capable
@keithframe3489
@keithframe3489 Ай бұрын
@@jackstraw262 Okay, fair enough. But steering wheel will not be included, sold separately for $7000.
@markc6714
@markc6714 Ай бұрын
Xiaomi have long copied phones from other vendors, so it's hardly surprising that they copied the car too. That said, 20 yrs ago TopGear showed Chinese companies doing rip-offs of BMW, etc
@dongshengdi773
@dongshengdi773 Ай бұрын
BYD has long copied all of its cars since day one . The famous Toyota Corolla
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk Ай бұрын
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
@kamsunleong6648
@kamsunleong6648 Ай бұрын
True. They copied a phone like all the others.
@kamsunleong6648
@kamsunleong6648 Ай бұрын
​@@dongshengdi773 True. They copied a car with doors and 4 wheels.
@baselena21
@baselena21 Ай бұрын
max and pro also they cant get new ideas for names..
@jtamminen4021
@jtamminen4021 Ай бұрын
Calling mobile device with four wheels, big battery and powerful motor as Porsche competitor sounds pretty naive
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 Ай бұрын
You shouldn't judge a book by its cover!
@asddsa-dy4ne
@asddsa-dy4ne Ай бұрын
@@stevie-ray2020 Ahahaha, you just wrecked yourself! Yeah "you shouldn't judge a book by its cover!" You should judge it by it's yellowing, moldy and rotting pages inside, just like your precious little bǎo shí mǐ. Here's your 50 cents
@RJE48
@RJE48 Ай бұрын
If you think about it, Tesla is NOT a car company... It's a technology company. Same with Xiaomi!
@jtamminen4021
@jtamminen4021 Ай бұрын
@@RJE48 Focus should be more on own designs and less rip offs. SU7 is based on BAIC platform, which seems to be poor quality or too advanced for regular chinese drivers...
@darkwar-sf3kw
@darkwar-sf3kw Ай бұрын
@@RJE48Tesla is car company from the first place
@merlin1649
@merlin1649 Ай бұрын
Insanity, utter insanity.
@supersuede91
@supersuede91 Ай бұрын
I do not buy car models unless they have a minimum of 5 years of track record in the segment
@90sNC_B
@90sNC_B Ай бұрын
You donot deserve a brand new concept .😅
@tubewatcher3100
@tubewatcher3100 Ай бұрын
01:58 China pleather PVC doesnt last a year. They're made to flake and disintegrate. Activists wanted "eco friendly" plastics. This is it. 11:10 Aluminum wiring is not used in construction for very good reasons.
@amazingman63
@amazingman63 Ай бұрын
This is not eco friendly plastic. Thats polyurethane stretched over a shitty cusion. Actually hemp seats tend to last quite awhile
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk Ай бұрын
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL
@michaelotoole1807
@michaelotoole1807 Ай бұрын
aluminum wiring for power distribution is used all the time in residential, commercial and industrial settings. the only thing its not used for is general purpose 15 and 20 amp power and lighting circuits.
@JohnDlugosz
@JohnDlugosz Ай бұрын
Aluminum wire is not used for good reasons, but running hot is not one of them! The narrator also stated that the lower conductivity is made up for by increasing the cross section area. The heating issues is not because the wires are aluminum, but because they substituted a lower gauge to save money, which they would have done with copper as well. The main issue with Al wiring is because _mixing_ different metals causes reactions. In a home, the various fittings are generally made for copper, and the rare Al house has to insert special adapters. Now guess what's another thing they can cheap out on? The final issue is with how many times the wire can be flexed before it cracks. Note that all the distribution cables you have overhead on towers and underground, from the powerplant to the residential substation, is all made of aluminum.
@christofferbrandel6491
@christofferbrandel6491 Ай бұрын
Nothing eco-friendly with PVC (or any plastics tbh).
@martentrudeau6948
@martentrudeau6948 Ай бұрын
It's like a Chinese imitation Rolex, it's not a desirable car.
@chinesesparrows
@chinesesparrows Ай бұрын
It's easy to copy the shell shape (and doing even this a laughingstock), but highly doubt they copied the material science and engineering like high speed crash crumple zones. You get what you spend with cars, they have slim margins already
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk Ай бұрын
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL
@alexthar6637
@alexthar6637 Ай бұрын
But fake Rolex won't kill you
@martentrudeau6948
@martentrudeau6948 Ай бұрын
@@MSDGroup-ez6zk ~ The Boeing of today, is not the like the Boeing pre 1997 and the McDonnell Douglas merger, which brought in a lot leaven into Boeing Corp.
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk Ай бұрын
@@martentrudeau6948 that's all happened in all American products. Very expensive goods but bad quality
@NickVanos
@NickVanos Ай бұрын
You're channel is very valuable, but also very suppressed. Still a lot of thanks for uploading these videos
@BelayaVorona22
@BelayaVorona22 Ай бұрын
Very suppressed ? They are spamming misleading content on a daily basis and forwarded by all their far right sect members comrades to the glee of their american racist viewer base, if anything, they should get a banner like state sponsored media saying "This channel is financed by a sect that was banned from mainland China and has since been trying to get their revenge on them using defamation and outright criminal activities"
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 Ай бұрын
Those first-adopter influencers are very naive to believe that the first products off any production-line are going to be flawless!
@ThomasD7244
@ThomasD7244 Ай бұрын
Do manufacturer's not test vehicles BEFORE they release them to the public ?
@herpyderpyderp
@herpyderpyderp Ай бұрын
derpfluencers
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk Ай бұрын
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 Ай бұрын
@@ThomasD7244 Don't you know that for Chinese products, the consumer has always done the quality-control testing?
@briansims1987
@briansims1987 Ай бұрын
Agreed, BUT they should meet BASIC QUALITY STANDARDS!
@vinegar008
@vinegar008 Ай бұрын
10:28 Aluminium wiring is a recipe for disaster. I earn extra money by fixing people's car. There are countless number of cases where electrical problems arises from the use of Aluminium, where the connection at the Aluminium got eaten away overtime, while also generate some kind of deposit between the two materials increasing the resistance to a point of open circuit. I mostly found them on French cars (at the rear light cluster) and FIAT.
@teknosql4740
@teknosql4740 Ай бұрын
Car Designer know that problem, but its part of intentional market strategy, minimizing production cost to kill other participant
@russelbrown6275
@russelbrown6275 Ай бұрын
The french vehicles are about as reliable as chiiiinese.
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk Ай бұрын
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
@vinegar008
@vinegar008 Ай бұрын
@@russelbrown6275 For the French cars, at least their brake works. Take a look at Malaysia Chery and MG no brakes.
@TheGuruStud
@TheGuruStud Ай бұрын
Galvanic corrosion
@CunningtonR
@CunningtonR Ай бұрын
lol!!! aluminum wire was tried in factory built homes here in the US. It was discovered that the aluminum wire, while the lighter Then copper wire. was so much more brittle, particularly where the connections were made and the aluminum wire cut. to make the conductions, that the wiring was deemed too big of a fire hazard to be used. in these units.. Keep in mind that the units left the factory., were transported down the freeway, and ended their journey at the final site where they were installed. to be permanent homes. If that jostling down the freeway. a bit was enough to cause problems with the aluminum connections., Can you imagine? the kind of difficulties that those aluminum connections are going to have. with the car that's being driven down a highway every day Nova potholes. et cetera..xiaomi Should offer three versions of this car? 1. parked in the garage and never used., 2. special flame paint job 3. The burnt beyond recognition model..
@ottomusprime5028
@ottomusprime5028 Ай бұрын
Good explanation on the shortcoming of aluminum wiring issues.
@blowitoutyourcunt7675
@blowitoutyourcunt7675 Ай бұрын
Yup rented an old house with aluminum wiring, it was not great. I can see why they regulated aluminum out of residential buildings.
@gordo3582
@gordo3582 Ай бұрын
A quick search turned up comments about Tesla also using at least some aluminum wiring in their vehicles.
@marcolam1167
@marcolam1167 Ай бұрын
Do you know tesla also use aluminum wire? it's common in EV industry
@CunningtonR
@CunningtonR Ай бұрын
From Tesla: Aluminum wire is cheaper than copper, but the wires must be thicker to carry the same amount of current. In addition, every type of attachment (breakers, outlets, etc.) must be specifically rated for use with aluminum wire (and many are not). Lastly, care must be taken to apply the correct anti-oxidizing paste. If aluminum wiring is not properly installed, over time it can cause dangerous overheating resulting in fires! For this reason, we strongly recommend the use of copper wires for EV charging to avoid the risk of improper installation. The Tesla Wall Connector is rated only for copper wire. Doesn’t sound like they are fond of Aluminum wire, even for the home charging system.
@ookammi
@ookammi Ай бұрын
what you get from a phone company
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 Ай бұрын
From a CHINESE company....
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 Ай бұрын
@@varanisshouyou4379 If your screen is on during a call, (to press mute) it either means your phone proximity sensor is faulty from new, your screen has been repaired badly or your screen settings are messed up....
@dariusdauderys6218
@dariusdauderys6218 Ай бұрын
Made In China.
@johntang4108
@johntang4108 Ай бұрын
The best of the best. Value for money. Unlike the western products costing you an arm and a leg.
@smeg5935
@smeg5935 Ай бұрын
​@@johntang4108but don't kill you
@teknosql4740
@teknosql4740 Ай бұрын
Dont underestimate china, just dont buy if you think its not good, they choose cheapest material to price purpose not mean they are not capable to build strong one, they have cutting edge tech to produce many thing
@OksanaBodarenko
@OksanaBodarenko Ай бұрын
Breaks out of the box. xaxaxaa!! 😆😆😆😆
@phillipvelednitskiy6881
@phillipvelednitskiy6881 Ай бұрын
@@johntang4108 western products are made to a standard that lasts longer than one use.
@vincecarlo
@vincecarlo Ай бұрын
XIAOMI make phones Cars are A TOTALLY Different MONSTER
@xraylife
@xraylife Ай бұрын
It takes at least decades of experience to make a good car - the materials science behind making a car that lasts it is very complex.
@teknosql4740
@teknosql4740 Ай бұрын
​@@xraylifeit does not need to develop knowledge from zero, just pay high expertise people to do the work
@xraylife
@xraylife Ай бұрын
@@teknosql4740 Manufacturing cars is much much more complex than you imagine. It involves 1000's of sub-contractors and suppliers and managing their quality throughout the entire chain. Just the plastic paint coatings on a dashboard, or a gear wheel is a huge story within itself.
@adamh1228
@adamh1228 Ай бұрын
@@teknosql4740 yeah, thats not how it works.
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk Ай бұрын
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
@KanishQQuotes
@KanishQQuotes Ай бұрын
Yup its a Porsche design copied
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 Ай бұрын
Every vehicle manufacturer copies from each other as computers make it so easy. However, you shouldn't judge a book by its cover!
@ZoomZoomMX3
@ZoomZoomMX3 Ай бұрын
It is a completely stolen design. Shame on thieves especially those who didn't understand what they stole and how to properly reproduce the stolen design.
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 Ай бұрын
@@ZoomZoomMX3 Ferdinand Porsche originally stole the design for his (or the Fuhrer's) volks-wagen (Beetle) from the Czech car-maker Tatra!
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk Ай бұрын
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL
@kamsunleong6648
@kamsunleong6648 Ай бұрын
Every car copied another car. Even the iconic VW Beetle copied the Tatra T97 and got sued.
@must205
@must205 29 күн бұрын
Xiaomi made a joke about Apple giving up on making a car.... it turns out that Su7 buyers can only drive 39km more than Apple car buyers 😂.
@unbreakable7633
@unbreakable7633 Ай бұрын
"Made in China" = "Breaks out of the Box" in English.
@ZoomZoomMX3
@ZoomZoomMX3 Ай бұрын
Dollar store garbage... Don't even try to wash a made in china can opener it will break immediately after
@ciklop4206
@ciklop4206 Ай бұрын
You probably typed this on a device that was made in China.
@guill90
@guill90 Ай бұрын
​​@@ciklop4206 Assembled in China, 90% of the components were imported from other countries. With oversight in the supply chain to make sure no corners are being cut.
@vicariouswitness
@vicariouswitness Ай бұрын
@@ciklop4206but approved with Western standards.
@ciklop4206
@ciklop4206 Ай бұрын
@@guill90 doubt it's 90%, although I do see where you pulled the number from lol. They tend to keep as much of the process in China due to labour and centralisation dud
@SurLaMer_
@SurLaMer_ Ай бұрын
LOL They can't even make a car that lasts long enough for a test drive
@geomacaulay
@geomacaulay Ай бұрын
This thing seemed to appear overnight. It's hardly surprising that it appears to have very limited testing and development.
@GamingProspector84
@GamingProspector84 Ай бұрын
6:18 she’s the sucker for paying 300k cash and expecting preferential treatment. You never pay that much in cash unless you have the keys in your hand.
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 Ай бұрын
Salesman now has his (small) commission, so she can now wait! It's the retail equivalent of paying a kidnapper the ransom before your relative has actually been returned!
@dcc70
@dcc70 Ай бұрын
She'll need to work extra hard to please her sugar daddy and make him forget her stupid purchase decision
@russelbrown6275
@russelbrown6275 Ай бұрын
It also helps to have a contract
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk Ай бұрын
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
@k.chriscaldwell4141
@k.chriscaldwell4141 Ай бұрын
Yup. You read my mind.
@aeronYTco
@aeronYTco Ай бұрын
It’s cheap for a reason. The Chinese copy almost everything from the design perspective only. However, when it comes to engineering, craftsmanship, build quality, and more, they suck. They try to make their cars as cheap as possible. Always remember that you get what you pay for. Major automakers price their EVs higher but they produce acceptable level of quality. I don’t get it why don’t the Chinese build something of good quality and go head-to-head with the major automakers. The Chinese really love to do it cheap and affordable. In the long term, it may sound good; but in the long term, it would be very problematic.
@catsNcode
@catsNcode Ай бұрын
You guys keep crying that they copy but besides the exterior, point to the intellectual property inside the car that you accuse them of copying. China haters only know how to cope by saying "copied" without ever driving a Chinese car lmao.
@SoloKazama
@SoloKazama Ай бұрын
well Chery cars are pretty decent tho.
@aeronYTco
@aeronYTco Ай бұрын
@@SoloKazama they keep improving, to be honest. But in the earlier days, when the Chery QQ was still available, their quality was very poor.
@Teresa8bigsalad
@Teresa8bigsalad Ай бұрын
Craftsmanship 😂. You mean those robots?
@aeronYTco
@aeronYTco Ай бұрын
@@Teresa8bigsalad the Chinese probably created robots that could cut cost down and build poor quality products as well 🤣
@devo076
@devo076 Ай бұрын
Aluminum has a higher resistance to electric flow than copper, and higher resistance generates more heat in the wire. Aluminum is OK to use for low voltage over short distances, but NOT for an EV!
@olli1407
@olli1407 Ай бұрын
High voltage power lines consist of steel and aluminum not copper. Cheaper and more lightweight but thicker. Nevertheless this car is absolute crap.
@devo076
@devo076 Ай бұрын
@@olli1407 there's a big difference in stringing out aluminum/steel wires in the open air and apart from other wires, and confining aluminum wires in a small space with little airflow against other components.
@deth3021
@deth3021 Ай бұрын
@devo076 The biggest difference is the voltage. ​
@MAGGOT_VOMIT
@MAGGOT_VOMIT Ай бұрын
Ohhhhh no!! Not the PorschMi !!🤣
@dcc70
@dcc70 Ай бұрын
Aluminum's higher resistivity means you need heavier gauge wire to carry the same amount of current, or suffer resistive losses in the form of hot wires that waste battery life and could melt the insulation and start fires.
@1439315
@1439315 Ай бұрын
Car catch's on fire inside garage; $ 250,000 house burns down because of ev car.
@Arltratlo
@Arltratlo Ай бұрын
not in China, if Xi says they are save, they are save, i will meet your soul in hell!
@deth3021
@deth3021 Ай бұрын
Or a higher voltage.
@dcc70
@dcc70 Ай бұрын
@@deth3021 true. But higher voltage also means any short becomes deadly. Is the risk worth the savings?
@deth3021
@deth3021 Ай бұрын
@dcc70 so you are saying that 800v isn't deadly? Also bumping 12v system to 48v doesn't make it deadly. You have too simplistic a worldview. These are all just things that can be managed.
@buddyrojek9417
@buddyrojek9417 Ай бұрын
I am a truck driver. I haven’t seen any BYD cars on the side of the road. They are now becoming popular in Australia
@zenon7094
@zenon7094 Ай бұрын
'China Fact Chasers' made a video on youtube about this cheap and crappy copy of a Porsche Taycan.
@ralphmueller3725
@ralphmueller3725 Ай бұрын
With all they have been through, you'd think Chinese people would learn from some of their mistakes but, i just see the same mistakes over and over.
@TheGuruStud
@TheGuruStud Ай бұрын
It looks expensive means I have to have it!
@zxbc1
@zxbc1 Ай бұрын
Chill, it's their first product. And other Chinese EVs are well made enough to compete with a lot of European and American cars. Don't just sip "china bad" coolaid, it's bad for your mental health.
@JJTURK
@JJTURK Ай бұрын
SU7 will go down in history as the best mass-produced debut car ever made ⭐ MARK MY WORDS! 🎗
@maapaa2010
@maapaa2010 Ай бұрын
I would never trust a Chinese car..
@user-pt8mf5sr3h
@user-pt8mf5sr3h Ай бұрын
New Energy Vehicle is a misnomer. Charging from 80% coal-powered station, ICE exhaust is cleaner. Old Energy Vehicle is more appropriate.
@SurLaMer_
@SurLaMer_ Ай бұрын
Also diesel & gasoline powered equipment is used to mine, transport, and process metals in EV batteries. The mining process destroys the ecology in those areas. Child labor is used to mine cobalt in the Congo.
@MAGGOT_VOMIT
@MAGGOT_VOMIT Ай бұрын
When will people everywhere learn that EV's of all makes are far from "green" and are a foolish purchase?
@vueport99
@vueport99 Ай бұрын
In some Chinese cities you can't get plates if you don't buy EV
@Voltaje_YT
@Voltaje_YT Ай бұрын
EVs made by Tesla are the most green, and with time it will increase, do t think this is a static situation, solar and wind plants are getting cheaper and increasing in numbers with time, green products will arrive exponentially, we are just in a transition state; Xiaomi does not know how to make EVs, let's see if they learn before their EV division goes backrupt.
@achasilas6535
@achasilas6535 Ай бұрын
Far cleaner than gas or diesel vehicles. What's your point?
@chrismayer3919
@chrismayer3919 Ай бұрын
Humanity typically doesn’t learn their lesson until it’s far too late…
@MAGGOT_VOMIT
@MAGGOT_VOMIT Ай бұрын
@@Voltaje_YT The best Tesla with the latest Lithium cells only gets a pathetic 900 Power/Efficiency score. A Gasoline/Diesel gets a 4500 score. EV's are such a strain on the powergrids that they are causing brown-outs in just mid-sized cities and causing the Fast-Charge feature to be disabled at the charging stations. Plus the lithium mines have to strip 500,000cu. yds of earth to get enough lithium for just one EV. There's not enough lithium out there to sustain EV's. The largest mines in Australia and China have already been depleted 2yrs ago. They cause thousands of tons more of coal and natural gas to be burned at the powerplants. Sounds real "green" huh?? 😆 This sad idiotic EV fad will be gone in a couple years. Dealerships all over have announced they will not take any EV's on trade-in cause no one wants them.
@chibonchibon3967
@chibonchibon3967 Ай бұрын
As xiaomi phone user I just want to say that you must unlock the Car bootloader then use custom rom and kernel to make it worth while
@johnmcgill3603
@johnmcgill3603 Ай бұрын
Say hello to Xi Pooh bear
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 Ай бұрын
As an owner of a Redmi Note 10 who discovered that its VoLTE file wasn't doing its job when Vodafone turned off their 3G network here in Australia, I know what you mean! The Note 10 is a 2yr old 4G phone, but fortunately I found an easy fix online, & I still love it!
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk Ай бұрын
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
@OldMarius-gn5kk
@OldMarius-gn5kk Ай бұрын
true, xiaomi with custom rom rocks!
@borgirlol
@borgirlol Ай бұрын
never buy a car from company that is also making vacuum cleaners
@jerrylol4686
@jerrylol4686 11 күн бұрын
That's Dyson
@glennjanot8128
@glennjanot8128 Ай бұрын
That woman who paid 300k is at fault herself. You do NOT pay 300k without a contract.
@KoinzellGaming
@KoinzellGaming Ай бұрын
They claim to be selling at a loss, but they're selling trash? How much of a loss could it have been if they skimp on the materials and only use low quality stuff that breaks within a year? The reason luxury cars are that expensive is because they use high quality material that doesn't break easily, or is extremely light (or both if carbon fiber)... You can get some pretty decent cars for 30k USD (new) and most of them you will be able to use for over 10 years because they're not made out of trash.
@Wendy-nm9zw
@Wendy-nm9zw Ай бұрын
Tesla will be next with their poor quality and inferior components
@giminai8000
@giminai8000 Ай бұрын
That’s BS and you know it cut the crap Tesla is clearly superior you need to stop listening to media or whatever you got your information from
@jblue2413
@jblue2413 Ай бұрын
Oh, the damn information gap has led many to believe that Xiaomi cars appeared out of nowhere. I think this is due to a lack of understanding of the information from China. Xiaomi's car factory is operated by BAIC (Beijing Automotive Industry Holding Co.), and the project was initiated several years ago. BAIC Group serves as a contract manufacturer for many automotive brands such as Mercedes-Benz, Hyundai, and Foton. As for the technology of Xiaomi cars, Xiaomi has poached a large number of talents from Geely Automobile Research Institute, including the head of the institute. Speaking of Geely Automobile Group, I think some people might be familiar with it. This company owns Volvo, Lynk & Co, Geely, and smart, and even now holds substantial shares in Aston Martin and Mercedes-Benz. I hope that a random video on a KZbin channel should not sway the judgment of an intellectually capable person. Let me repeat the specs of the Xiaomi SU7: Length (mm): 4997 Width (mm): 1963 Height (mm): 1455 Wheelbase (mm): 3000 CLTC pure electric range (km): 700 Official 0-100 km/h acceleration (s): 2.78 Price: 299,900 RMB, approximately 41,200 USD
@ricardosousa11
@ricardosousa11 Ай бұрын
no one expected this, no one
@Richblackhat
@Richblackhat Ай бұрын
Haha good sarcasm
@gersonalves8474
@gersonalves8474 Ай бұрын
But it unequivocally happens. Always! BTW I expected it to happen. After all... where are we talking about?
@ricardosousa11
@ricardosousa11 Ай бұрын
@@gersonalves8474 we are talking about the cars Xiaomi said they can do in 76 sseconds LOL
@MSDGroup-ez6zk
@MSDGroup-ez6zk Ай бұрын
Remind me of expensive low quality of Boeing products LOL what FAA has done? Paying porn actress?
@gersonalves8474
@gersonalves8474 Ай бұрын
@@ricardosousa11 yeap I know
@Zeo--
@Zeo-- Ай бұрын
It should be named Xiaofu dreg
@powershift2024
@powershift2024 Ай бұрын
Poor guy drove into china's economy...
@matzmn
@matzmn Ай бұрын
This is one of the main problems with China. Everybody wants to get their hands in the sectors that were hot like Real Estate and EVs. Why Xiaomi and Evergrande decided to get involve in the EVs? There are already so many players (originally more than 400 companies in EVs). Just stick to what you are good at and manage your business well.
@Hafizul12
@Hafizul12 Ай бұрын
they are better at creating cruel and unusual cat snuffing videos than any their own tech
@jeanboseau9249
@jeanboseau9249 Ай бұрын
Sh **, I have a Xiaomi phone😮, is it the same quality as EV? I'm afraid of, wait and see, if the same, never Xiaomi phone again!
@KanishQQuotes
@KanishQQuotes Ай бұрын
Stick to samsung Simply because they repair their phones
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong Ай бұрын
garbage
@vueport99
@vueport99 Ай бұрын
I thought their phones were decent in the past. But haven't bought one in a few years as the big 3 have a better user experience and price point
@BelayaVorona22
@BelayaVorona22 Ай бұрын
​@@KanishQQuotes The same phones that had a tendency to blow up in your pocket ? I have a latest generation Note 13 Pro + and it hasn't given me a single problem and the quality is superb, this entire channel is a propaganda tool taking 3 videos out of context and generalising it as a problem on a countrywide scale.
@KanishQQuotes
@KanishQQuotes Ай бұрын
@@BelayaVorona22 I've been using Samsung devices since the original galaxy s2. Also if every thing is so dandy in China why they restrict news
@JerBuster77
@JerBuster77 Ай бұрын
That one girl complaining about the payment plan after dumping all that money into the car is definitely the 1%.
@mart0225
@mart0225 Ай бұрын
Looks like she’s using a camera filter to give herself a V shaped chin.
@TheGuruStud
@TheGuruStud Ай бұрын
Sure is nice to have rich daddies
@UtamagUta
@UtamagUta Ай бұрын
Who the F eager to buy ANYTHING from the 1st batch?? Do you want to work as free QA??
@gilletphilippe4473
@gilletphilippe4473 Ай бұрын
I think that Porshe CEO must be laughing out so loud 😅
@Natepwnsu
@Natepwnsu Ай бұрын
They do not use aluminum wires in a car's wiring harness. Suicide with 4 wheels .
@russelbrown6275
@russelbrown6275 Ай бұрын
Actually they do
@moonipad4514
@moonipad4514 Ай бұрын
This goes for almost ALL Chinese products
@daddyjohan911
@daddyjohan911 Ай бұрын
Benz started making cars in 1885. They have been perfecting them ever since. My previous one did 240.000km. Once a year to the dealer for scheduled maintenance. Once there was an issue with the water pump. They didn't charge anything for the repair. We got a phone call from the dealer afterward to explain and apologise, "That should not have happened." Then it was rather sadly rear-ended. Too expensive to repair. so we took the money the insurance paid for it and bought a new car. Guess which brand. If people are so stupid to buy a car from a company that was making rather crappy cell-phones and decided somewhere last week "we're gonna make cars".... In my country there is a saying: if you burn your a**, you have to sit on the blisters.
@Lvvcassss
@Lvvcassss Ай бұрын
You preorder, you lose. But tbh, aluminium wiring is very popular in EVs. It's lighter and cheaper. BMW i3 uses alu wires in the battery, in interconnectors between modules. Besides, every battery has cells connected with aluminium tabs. It does NOT generate more heat because thicker gauge is used to compensate for higher resistance.
@mzmz9355
@mzmz9355 Ай бұрын
Any actual users here? Here I do hear just general statements and some individual experiences. What I'm missing is some statistics for example in how many of total sold&used cars is specific issue etc...
@YourHineyness
@YourHineyness Ай бұрын
I think they are too new to have much data to look at.
@carlishiggins
@carlishiggins Ай бұрын
you buy byd Atto dolphin seal ev they also falls apart too and its very expensive car price to buy,
@sophiegrisom
@sophiegrisom Ай бұрын
Most U.S. homes have aluminum wire for the main runs, such as the street feed to the Main Breaker and from there to any Subpanels (usually 100 A USE-2). It is mandatory to use anti-corrosion grease at the connectors, but that is recommended for copper wire too. 1960's homes which used aluminum wire for the outlets (15 or 20 A) apparently didn't use grease, so suffered corrosion at connectors which gave high resistance heating and sometimes caused fires. So, no problem using aluminum wire for the high current runs in EV's, if designed correctly.
@exxodas
@exxodas Ай бұрын
Lmao I’ll never pay $30K for a Chinese car.
@tuapuikia
@tuapuikia Ай бұрын
40% cancellation? Are you sure?
@dontcare7086
@dontcare7086 Ай бұрын
Makes sense. Most the purchases were scalpers but they changed the rules so the scalpers lost their deposits 😂
@HKim0072
@HKim0072 Ай бұрын
Never be the first to buy something from a new manufacturer. It's one thing when Apple decided to produce phones. Very similar to iPod / laptops. But, a phone company producing cars? Even the iPhones had major issues (not Apple's fault). Worked in downtown SF in a modern relatively low floor building and our phones didn't work in the building. It was comical.
@MasticinaAkicta
@MasticinaAkicta Ай бұрын
Product version 1.0 ... yeah no. That is for the Betatesters!
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 Ай бұрын
My personal experience of using Macs at university (plus how short-lived other Apple products belonging to others I know have lasted) convinced me to never purchase anything from Apple!
@YourHineyness
@YourHineyness Ай бұрын
It's like a garage door company deciding to make nuclear submarines.
@jpcisneros21
@jpcisneros21 3 күн бұрын
I believe it’s a mistake to underestimate the ability of Chinese manufacturers to learn from the mistakes of older models. China has the people, industry, and resources to innovate and improve constantly. Moreover, there are several Chinese EV models that have received excellent reviews. In the West, we may have become complacent and underestimated this competition.
@agam3mnon184
@agam3mnon184 Ай бұрын
silver is heavier than aluminium, as well as 24x more expensive, by weight. they won't ever use silver
@oscargrainger2962
@oscargrainger2962 Ай бұрын
What is it with the Chinese, anything nice and shiny seems to hypnotise them. 😅😅
@stevenmoore6783
@stevenmoore6783 Ай бұрын
This channel is always negative about China. What is your agenda?
@catsNcode
@catsNcode Ай бұрын
This page is pure propaganda. If you actually want real news from China and not read all the people who are envious of them theres many other channels to check out.
@wichaipongthadaporn2026
@wichaipongthadaporn2026 Ай бұрын
It’s a propaganda channel from Taiwan and NED sponsored.
@micholitzia5726
@micholitzia5726 Ай бұрын
@@wichaipongthadaporn2026they don’t even need to be sponsored. People love to live in a fantasy world of hate
@kewinrebel
@kewinrebel Ай бұрын
Halooo nearly all VW new cars use Aluminium wires as well….😅
@kylorokx1552
@kylorokx1552 Ай бұрын
CAN WE CALL IT "POORXI"?
@Vorabentscheidungsersuchen
@Vorabentscheidungsersuchen Ай бұрын
The Mitsubishi Lancer is the best car in the world. Unfortunately I don‘t have one 😢
@xraylife
@xraylife Ай бұрын
Toyota Landcruiser can go 800K on original engine and gearbox - the wait list is more than 2 years for one though.
@Young-io5yt
@Young-io5yt Ай бұрын
TOYOTA IS THE BEST CAR IN THE WORLD
@CapitanHarlockisback
@CapitanHarlockisback Ай бұрын
Don’t forget NSU.
@wichaipongthadaporn2026
@wichaipongthadaporn2026 Ай бұрын
I used it before but sorry I don’t think it is a good car at all.
@kikomatsing9487
@kikomatsing9487 Ай бұрын
Just buy toyota, cheap but durable.
@zacksmith5644
@zacksmith5644 Ай бұрын
Xiaomi is better
@josephebrahmian1256
@josephebrahmian1256 Ай бұрын
we are not rich enough to buy cheap under spec products. how can a Tech giant simply copy and paste Porsche Taycan and interior graphics of Tesla? Chinese customers are very much brand oriented and they stick to their choice of proper cars when they can afford them. Porsche, BMW, Tesla etc..
@surrealfabet
@surrealfabet Ай бұрын
Do you get 8 years warranty on chinese cars like Hyundai & Kia?
@jameschan3147
@jameschan3147 Ай бұрын
Haha what a joke with this channel
@JonySmith-bb4gx
@JonySmith-bb4gx Ай бұрын
Yes it is a joke
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj Ай бұрын
The old adage "you get what you paid for" still holds true.
@Jack-It-UP
@Jack-It-UP Ай бұрын
Thank you, great reporting
@jmanokiiru
@jmanokiiru Ай бұрын
Its a first car and they really did try stop hating while its not even released to the public
@danielsoosay1772
@danielsoosay1772 Ай бұрын
Can the channel bring details how many EVs are already using aluminum as part of wire material.
@loongdechuanren1008
@loongdechuanren1008 Ай бұрын
There are 100% doubts when people come across this kind of video. No country dares to risk its reputation by exporting unchecked products.
@smoothoperator2008s
@smoothoperator2008s Ай бұрын
In this video, says- customers are complaining and also says- the care will start delivering at the end of this month, april. Today- april12.
@amelierenoncule
@amelierenoncule Ай бұрын
When I desire a Good Laugh, mes amis, I view one of these posts. MOST AMUSING !
@adamsonntag5755
@adamsonntag5755 Ай бұрын
Dangerous to use aluminum because of the cold creep. Higher chance of arcing unless regularly maintained.
@JetFire9
@JetFire9 Ай бұрын
Tesla uses aluminum in some of their key electrical parts, like the main pyro fuse that feeds all power to the car. Doh!
@XiaoPP1
@XiaoPP1 Ай бұрын
Instead making honest quality cars, they build sub quality and rush to deliver. Not smart.
@nosman123
@nosman123 Ай бұрын
i used aluminum wire for my car stero speakers. had to replace/strip and re wire after 2months due to corrosion. save $20 for the first install. but ended up have to do the work twice till i replaced it for copper
@YourHineyness
@YourHineyness Ай бұрын
My house burned down because of aluminum electrical wiring. I mean down down, as in clear to the basement floor down. It's an interesting experience shoveling ashes which represent everything you own into a dumpster.
@rajasimanta
@rajasimanta Ай бұрын
Happens to everyone, specially to someone who made EVERYTHING for the 1st time … full support to Xiaomi
@SgtFvMC
@SgtFvMC Ай бұрын
So using aluminum instead of copper is considered "cheap" now? Glad Mercedes doesn't do that i guess.....
@Bennie32831
@Bennie32831 Ай бұрын
Wondered when people would work out the wiring is aluminum
@jason5838
@jason5838 Ай бұрын
Cheap and nasty is Chinese Quality control it looks good at first but then things start to fail.
@Talkthingsthatmatters
@Talkthingsthatmatters Ай бұрын
Lol, like after depositing with tesla in the USA you get your car immediately
@kpcofvs911
@kpcofvs911 Ай бұрын
Crazy world we live in
@jallen1227
@jallen1227 Ай бұрын
Why insult Porsche like that ? More appropriate would be Chinese Tofu Porsche
@JahbuNtu
@JahbuNtu Ай бұрын
They had the nerve to order a video takedown of my video.
@xchazz86
@xchazz86 Ай бұрын
Quality with corner cutting characteristics.
@factramen
@factramen Ай бұрын
To the fears of European manufacturers of the Chinese car manufacturers, relax, it is not hard to see their products are absolutely dreadful all around and the support is even worst. How many times I have bought Chinese products and feel regret, every single time, literally.
@zacksmith5644
@zacksmith5644 Ай бұрын
Ok prove it
@markgarin6355
@markgarin6355 Ай бұрын
Leaks in six places? Peeling...no they wanted appealing upholstery. And like the real estate market in china... don't buy shit they haven't made yet.
@gh-dw3tg
@gh-dw3tg Ай бұрын
If you base the car on just good copy design.......you get a toy car. Great video...keep rockin
@muiyoung
@muiyoung Ай бұрын
In fact, this car's lap time on the small track may be faster than the old Porsche Taycan, and it is using non hot melt tires
@HcCh-sm8kk
@HcCh-sm8kk Ай бұрын
The old saying you get what you paid for. Being cheap you get cheap product.
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