Chinese Diesel Heater Power Consumption. How Many Amps Do They Use And Is Your Battery Big Enough?

[@tonyfourpaws4511]

I had a few vids to choose from..mostly they were from young dudes then I saw an older gentleman with silver hair and a nice pullover and I said to myself, "Tony, this man looks like he knows what's up"

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Your too kind Tony Thank you 👍

[@Xanderbelle]

And doesn't start every video with "Hi Guys"

[@jesperholmelundulff-kalles1846]

Thanks for your info. I did change my wiriring so that i can switch between car and house battery as far as power for the heater goes. That to make sure i always have power for cool down of the heater...

[@OverlandOne]

Thank you for doing this test. I am putting in a diesel heater for this winter into my Van. I've watched many videos and no one seems to talk about the power usage. I want to make sure my battery bank can handle it, so thank you.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi, Thanks for watching and glad it helped you out👍 ATB, Steve

[@zundappwatercooler]

Same here great job🎉

[@longle7603]

Wow that is pretty low usage. A 100W Solar Panel should be able to keep up with load and keep a battery topped off.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Providing you have sun, then yes, it will run ok. Just make sure you have ample Ampage battery 👍

[@sangetube]

Very comprehensive look at the electrical needs of the diesel heater. Appreciate the video as I'm shopping online for an AC/DC adapter. I'll be looking for 10 amps capable to be on the safe side. 👍

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi, Thank you, glad it helped..👍

[@thelegion_within]

having a real world test is really very useful, thanks! love the series!!

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Thank you. Glad they helped you..

[@anderscederqvist8855]

Very great analyze n process! 💥👌 Very interesting thank you as I have recently received a china diesel heater 2 kw and will install it in my campervan and I have 280Ah lithium batteries!

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

I think you'll have more than enough power there Anders..!!! ATB, Steve

[@anderscederqvist8855]

@@TheWrinklyNomads BIG THANKZ for that info reply!🙏 I was kind of worried of that aspect!

[@garrynorth6199]

Great test and very informative, thank you from Australia 🇦🇺

[@AenesidemusOZ]

Steve, brilliant! Perfect timing. I'm considering getting a couple of those meters and monitoring things like our fridge and freezer for a while, especially coming into our summer. The heater will be unplugged once the current antarctic blast stops, but I've always wondered about its power usage. Thanks, from a couple of Australian wrinkly nomads. 🇦🇺

[@Hiker97]

What's the most amps (surge) at any one time? What size is you heater 2k, 5k, etc.?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

I use a 10Amp fuse to protect the heater as my 5Kw heater peaks just below that.

[@mr.c6383]

Thank you for a very informative video

[@oluffriesthomsen7680]

I have seen many of your videoes, very short and super informative. 👍👍 Much better as many other videos, that takes 15-20 minutes, often repeating them self several times, ( pretty annoying) maybe they just like to hear them self talking. 😃

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Thank you. Yes, I agree, some people do seem to like repeating the same thing...!!!

[@richardpenyak2560]

Thank you so much for the information. You answered all of my concerns regarding power usage.

[@lescooper5224]

Thank you for the vid . My 2x110 ah barber's with solar charging should be great thanks

[@mibars]

Super helpful! I was wondering if a 2nd battery is needed for just an overnight use, looks like it would not use even 10% of a battery during all night sleep. The heater I'm installing is a smaller, 2kw unit, so I guess it would use even less power.

[@Chadlechon]

What battery are you using?

[@mibars]

@@Chadlechon I went with not having a 2nd battery and my 72 Ah starter battery of unknown age had no issues with starting and running it for couple of hours at full power. Later the car has restarted with no issues (5.7 small block)

[@mibars]

@@Chadlechon As a backup I want to assemble a step down converter that would allow me to boost the car battery from a 18V power tool battery, so that even if the car has trouble starting in the morning I'd still have a means to revive it.

[@jemmapurcell941]

Love the vid! 🙏 What size is your diesel heater? 2kw 5kw 8kw?

[@Toob41]

He said 5kW in another reply

[@NT78982]

Thanks for the informative video. This answered my exact question.

[@evanfox1291]

Just discovered your channel and have found what I've viewed thus far. When you mounted the LCD/control panel, did you solder in additional wiring length or were you able to find a premade extension or at least the same quick disconnects to make your own? --I want to relocate my LCD and capable of soldering in longer wiring but would prefer finding extension cable w/ the quick disconnects on both ends. Thanks!

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Evan I didn't add any extra cable to the LCD controller to burner unit as it wasn't needed in my case. I think it was already about 5 foot plus long.

[@cliff6490]

I am shopping for a heater and your video caught my eye, i like the testing aspect. It makes it more enlightning to see the actual numbers as opposed to companies selling their products. My question is ( hopefully its not to dumb) i have noticed that many videos show the controller mounted away from the unit, is this standard on most heaters or is it something that you have to rewire? Thx Again enjoyed your video very much Cliff

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Cliff, These heaters normally come with the controller on a long lead, about 2mtrs, so they can be positioned more conveniently away for the heater. Hope that helps 👍

[@stevehanna4345]

Hi. Thanks for the informative video. Ive just purchase a 8kw all in one unit. Its run via a new 12v 46Ah battey with a brand new smart 12v charger/trickle charger. All is well for about 40 mins then the unit stops showing Error code E 2..... Any ideas what the problem is?....Bad battery? Would I be best changing to 240v/12v transformer, cheers. Steve

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Interesting…. I believe a E2 error can be over voltage or no flame. Judging by the power supply you have is probably flame related. Maybe check all the fuel lines for kinks and the air intake or exhaust is not blocked. Or ask on the Facebook diesel heater page. That’s very helpful 👍🏼

[@predictablejesse6497]

i had the same issue and found my fuel pump was actually drawing in air and i had to put better clamps on my fuel lines

[@samfromportadown]

I tried running a heater like this off a jackery 1000. But the high startup current draw overloads the 12v output from the thing. I might need 240v to 12v transformer capable of handling the startup current.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Yes, definitely, a powerpack will give a constant power for these type of heaters 👍

[@robertionescu_]

I got exactly the same problem on an Anker Solix C1000. The startup kicks in the overload protection. But there are plenty of KZbin videos where people are running diesel heaters with the 12V Car outlet of power stations....

[@kadedelacy6629]

I'm terrible with electrical measurements. Most batteries are 12v output and measured in Wh. How do this data compare to that and how big of Wh battery would I need to run this for several nights?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Kade, The controller will probably show a low voltage error with just 12v, especially on start up as it it also discharges the most at that point. By the way, battery output is measure in Amp Hours. The start up and shut down procedure are where you get maximum draw, anything up to 10Amps. At this part in the video I show Amps used for a 10hr period. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqbZlWyQbd99fLs But realistically, a minimum of a 12v 50Ah battery will do it 👍 ATB, Steve

[@daydog64]

And yet again, you made another excellent video. Well done Sir.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Thank you for your kind comments. They are much appreciated. ATB, Steve

[@paulm.6437]

Thanks for that info on diesel heaters. That answered the main question of what takes the least amount of power to heat an rv.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Paul, Glad it help you.

[@robertbarbour7017]

CAn I ask a question my friend please. I want to set one of these units up with a 12v 7amp battery which will be permanently connected to a 12v 6amp smart charger. I know the glow plug cycle draws around 10 amp, but only for a very short period which the 7amp battery should be able to cope with. The 7amp battery is not ideal, but do you think with the combination of the permanent smart charger I will be ok? Many thanks in advance.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Robert, I think this setup won't really work. It will struggle on start-up phase, which uses more Amps, and then possibly just throw up an error 01 (power fail) error 03 (ignition fail) or error code 06 (motor fail) But, having said that, its still worth a try ...! ATB, Steve

[@howtowithluke]

interesting that is measure o.oamps before you started it as mine has flattened fhe battery before from the screen when left on. I learnt to pull the fuse if im not using it for a while

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Luke, Yes, the LED controller will draw a very small amount of amps, but the meter I use is not highly sensitive and wont read that small amperage draw, hence the starting zero... When I'm not using the van for any period of time I always pull the fuse on the unit as well. ATB, Steve

[@Greviouss]

what was the maximum amp draw at any point in time?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Darrell, Max amps that mine draws was 10Amps. That was during the main start up procedure.

[@EunosRoadster91]

Excellent video, thank you!

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Thank you 👍

[@johnwinder2462]

thanks for the info. I want to do a permanent mains powered setup with enogh battery for 24 hours in case of power cut. The power drop should set off the automatic shutdown sequence of the heater in case the power runs out completely. I want minimal effort, but I will make a nice neat setup. Can you recommend a suitable battery and charger combination? Or maybe an off the shelf UPS unit? I live in New Zealand.

[@pauls466]

For those who wan't to run it of a power pack Bleu Jetty / Jackery and so on . The chance of success depends on the amp draw , some glow plugs are set to 75 watt and some to 95watt . Even 75 watt plus motor and pump will be at the max of the 12 volt socket . So not advised .

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Very true there Paul... Also don't plug into the the cigarette outlet on a portable power pack. I was cause overheating.....

[@robertdurhammusic]

If you have a 8-10 amp 12volt socket you will be fine. It’s max firing up the glow plug is about 10amps then throttles down to around 2 amps.

[@urbanimage]

The display / controller on these heaters do use some power even when the unit is switched off. It's worth isolating the heater from the battery when it's not being used.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Yes, but be careful that it's not accidentally turned off when running the heater.

[@urbanimage]

@@TheWrinklyNomads Indeed so.

[@xploreonwheel]

hi just one question about glow plug starting ..whats the max Amps its taking because these days eco flow river max 2 provide 10 A 12.6V that is 126 W max dc output but I have seen many videos which shows we are getting E2 error when ever they connect diesel heater with eco flow dc output

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Power pack and diesel heaters seem to have a strange relationship..! Some can run them, other cut out? I run from my motorhome battery system and all work well 👍

[@matthewcarter180]

Thats not alot at all im impressed, mine gets delivered tomorrow its for my transit connect to defrost in the winter etc, also i was concerned about using the engine battery for a morning warm up, and wake up to a dead battery. But i think i will be ok 👍🏻

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

They are quite power efficient Mathew. Most lorries use them too. ATB, Steve

[@matthewcarter180]

@@TheWrinklyNomads thanks the reply, arrived and fitted last week, works a dream, the jubilee clips are crap though 😂

[@wayneburton2575]

Would this run off a 42150mAh power pack at all? It has a 12v lighter socket on the lithium pack. The pack im usings specs are. Capacity: 42150mAh @ 3.7V / 13Ah @ 11.1V and 12v DC socket: 156W max I would want to run this 8k heater for 3 days into a tent the one I have is a portable unit all built into a case but there all the same I assume

[@devinmahoney3777]

Ok I was a bit surprised by the results I just had tonight. I tried and failed them succeeded to fire up for the first time my new Chinese diesel heater with Milwaukee batteries. The surprise was that I had to wire in a second battery in parallel to not get a warning shutoff due to a non descript electrical error with a single xc 5.0 Milwaukee battery. Two did the trick but my guestimate was that I had plenty of juice for the fan and heating element in these things and as he shows 100w max I’m a bit confused. Trying to do the same as you for a tent. I am using a 40amp dc/dc step down and a voltage shut-off controller to avoid over-discharge. More testing tomorrow!

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Wayne I have never really experimented with power packs so cant give you a definitive answer. I do know. however, that some have caused the 12V lighter socket to overheat using this method.? I

[@jimosullivan1389]

It's not 8kw...its more like a real life figure of 4kw output.

[@markdrinkall1078]

Im curretly looking at one of these heaters for a shed and greenhouse. The shed has a small 30w solar panel if the total power used is 13.5 ah in 24hrs would a 30w panal be good enough to replenish the charge.

[@ve2wiz]

Theory : 30W @ 12V = 2.5A, assuming you have a MPPT solar controller and full perpendicular sunshine. You will need this condition during at least (13.5/2.5) = 5.4 hours. Real life : Most low power solar panel are using low cost PWM solar controller. That means you will be able to get about 70% of the specified panel output (1.75A max). Then, your solar panel is not perpendicular with the sun most of the time. You can probably figure about 1A average out of your panel during the sunshine hours. Finally, Where there is cold, there is normally less sunshine hours. Realistically, your 30w panel will give you about 5Ah to 10Ah of charge on good days. Unfortunately, you will need to upgrade your system to supply one of these diesel heater. Good luck with your installation!

[@pauls466]

only when you leave it OFF.

[@garywaite6963]

I've got Truma Gas Heating using non refillable bottles. The price of bottled gas has gone through the roof. I have no concerns over battery capacity but would you say these diesel heaters are cheaper to run in fuel costs than bottled gas? (2 × 6kg in my van)

[@martinpanks992]

Mine is ran using a Ac to Dc transformer and I always wondered how many watts it was using, I can see it is no more that 40 ish watts.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Martin, Yes, these little heaters are quite efficient with their power requirements. If you’ve got a fixed power supply then that’s ideal 👍🏼 ATB, Steve

[@lezbriddon]

its not 40w when the fans on full and the glowplug is heating.... more like 100-120 for a minute or so

[@BEASTmodeontheRoad]

What heater did you use they have many varieties

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi, I have the 5kw Chinese diesel heater.

[@BEASTmodeontheRoad]

@@TheWrinklyNomads thank ya. Do you think your one 5k would do well enough if it had multiple ducts?

[@786otto]

That is what I wanted to see, thanks for video

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Thanks for watching, it's appreciated👍

[@OGCrypto33]

My 5kw uses 0.4ah running at 1.1kw. Setting.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Think that's about the average for most of these.

[@NBLife459]

Any idea what would make my diesel heater go from 12.7v to 10.5v on start up ? 100ah lithium battery

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

That's quite a drop..! I'm surprised the unit runs at all as it has a low voltage cutout. Lowest mine goes is 12.5V. Your lithium should have a higher starting voltage than 12.7V though? Maybe you've also got something else running at the same time that's drawing a lot of power?

[@NBLife459]

@@TheWrinklyNomads nothing else connected but figured that the fuse box I had it connected to is not big enough. Now does better but still taking to much . I’ll look into upgrading the wiring or buy a new heater lol took the lithium battery out and put the old lead acid back in until I figure it out

[@BEASTmodeontheRoad]

Thin wiring

[@belumptuous]

Mine does the same regardless of using a battery or a 240v power unit set at 13v output (and able to supply 20A max). You are talking about the voltage drop as displayed by the heater controller aren't you? That's different to the battery source voltage that you would read at the battery as it comes under load (say if you have a watt meter connected, like in this video, between the battery and the heater). The voltage drop across the heater does seem to be higher than in this video, when he is running it on full and flicks through the heater controller display you can see the difference between the source voltage (on the watt meter) and heater's displayed voltage is less than 1v. Whereas, on mine supplied with 13v, and running full throttle, the heater displays 11.5v, a 2.5v drop across the heater (and its supply cable). I think we both need to replace the heater's cables with thicker ones and only use the length required (I'm still using the supplied loom coiled up, which is about 5 times the length I actually need).

[@NBLife459]

@@belumptuous yes. I replaced mine with thicker and fixed it 🤙🏻

[@Xyiter]

Ok, so my idea of connecting a 12v diesel heater with a 12v fuse block thats also connected to lights, plugged to a 12v car plug into power station will work. Needed to know how many amps of power a diesel heater used before I decided to go with my idea, not sure if anyone else tried what I'm gonna do but I doubt it hasn't been thought of lmao Good video thanks.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

That probably wont give you good results.... They use 10amps on start up/cool down, but always worth a try 👍

[@matthewlea4073]

Hi great vid but what size heater was it 3kw 5 kW of 8 kW?

[@oliver90owner]

Please can you add the pumping rates for these phases. Presume the pump is the standard 0.022ml/stroke? It would be useful, in particular, to know the minimum flow rate for your machine, hence an idea of the heating power output. Apart from that a good, clear video. Thanks.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Richard, Thank you. I wasn't really concentrating on fuel pump rates for this video, however I do have the pulse settings to: 2.2Hz min and 5.5Hz max. But running on the temperature control setting (which I used) rather than Hz, I think the pump will tend to run on max or min during a heat up phase or min when in maintenance phase...? As for heat output, running at max. fan and pump did give me 93 degrees C at the vent outlet, so I suppose I could use it to gauge the maximum power output.? ATB, Steve

[@spaceportseven]

Brilliant and good data !v Lower power consumption than I guessed. I'm curious to know what the overall efficiency is for the diesel heater with regards burning the diesel ?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi, Yes. they are pretty efficient little units eh 👍 If you want to know exact fuel burn rate and see the efficiency, I have a full video on the here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGm2nH53obR0rrc ATB, Steve

[@SamHarrisonMusic]

Hi! I hope you'll oblige me a quick question - what number of amps does the 12 volt battery need to be to run this heater? Thanks, Sam :)

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Sam, Depends on how long you want to run it for.. But if you run the video again, have a look right at the end, you will see the breakdown of power (Ah) used over a 24hr period. In my test it used 13.5Ah of battery power. Hope this helps, Steve

[@largemarge1603]

2003, we converted a 1996 Ford CF8000 to our concept of an ExpeditionVehicle. Our interior is 7w x 12l x 7h, about 700cf. Our windows are stand-still house 3612, three feet wide by a foot tall, dual-pane sliders. We mounted our windows at eye-level while standing inside... about eight feet above pavement. . Nearly two decades full-time live-aboard, we are considering a diesel forced-air furnace, retiring our ancient propane Wave 3 catalytic heater. . Our problem: Our AGM bank is equally ancient, so running a 12vdc-dependant appliance requires significant modifications to our foundation...

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

I found the diesel heaters to be a good upgrade over propane and more efficient. Once upto temperature they really don't use much power at, but if your AGM's are near the end of their life I would upgrade to Lithium. Still got plenty of like in mine, but definitely the route to go. safe travels, Steve

[@henshooten]

May I please ask I have two 110a agm batteries in parallel so all up 110ah usable power , may I ask would this be ok to run the unit for a few hours each day in a camper

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Yes, your battery setup will be fine. It's startup and shutdown that use the most power for a relatively short time. But during the heat cycle it uses minimal power. So certainly for a few hours will be fine 👍 ATB, Steve

[@89RASMUS]

Thanks for a very comprehensive and straight forward report on the facts people wanted to know. I bought one of these to use in my project car since it's powered by an air cooled motorbike engine that would be hard to harvest heat for the drivers compartment. Had a few doubts whether the 35amp alternator would be able to cope with the heater, but now all worries has been put to rest. Looks like I'll even be able to use it for pre-heating the engine compartment in the winter for easier starts. 😊👍

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Thank you and thanks for watching, glad it helped.👍

[@stevecarlisle3323]

Don, another valuable video. I have a few of these heaters, and the core heater seems reasonable, but the accessoires are near junk. Case in point is the fuel filtor. To me it looks like it will fail soon, i just throw them out right away. Having one of those fail inside a RV or Boat, will be a stinky mess. You can get good automotive ones cheap. Thanks again, Steve

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Steve, Yes, agree with you there. That's where they save their production costs. The burners themselves are pretty bulletproof.... Although I have been running this for a year now without any problems, but once I start tinkering again, no doubt I'll upgrade these accessory parts. ATB, Steve

[@K6DRJ]

This may be addressed elsewhere in the comments. Just bought my first diesel heater. Honestly should’ve maybe researched more. I noticed your control is way more advanced and has many more functions than mine. What brand/model of heater is this? Thsnks

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

It’s only a generic diesel heater from EBay. Nothing too special really. You can get those controllers separately on eBay as well.

[@johnking9519]

I work in quarry’s driving excavators… minus 13 outside was my coldest temperature… my Eberspacher was a 4 kilo heater… i ran that at 50% heat output…. My Motorhome was at 18 inside… beautiful… off of my 500 jackery… 8 hours running…… take it to my machine and charge…. Back again the next day…. Lovely

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Yep, that's the way to do it.👍

[@tb8573]

This seemed to be a very helpful video, but then it seemed that the information you give have few similarities with data that I get from my heater. Maybe because of misunderstandings on my part. What does not seem to correlate at all with my heater is the ”5.9 watt”. When running on the lowest setting and not being in start up mode, my heater uses 19 watts. When starting, for a short period of time it uses more than 100 watts.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi, I think you have slightly got your electrical units mixed up.... easily done! Your readings are in Watts, I have measured in Amps. Your running usage of 19 Watts is the equivalent to 1.5 Amps and the other reading of 100 Watts is still only 8.3 Amps. These are about the same as the readings in my tests. So all ok 👍

[@cgavin1]

Great video. So the answer is: naff all really. That's reassuring. Especially if you plan to run one of these off a car battery (~60ah).

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Thank you for watching. Make sure the voltage doesn't go low and you have over 10A available and you should be ok.👍

[@anaphylastiks]

Just wondering would it harm the heater if made a switch and use car battery to start it, then switch to power supply or another battery. Would it just shut off or would it keep running?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

These heaters need constant a power feed. be aware that if it’s running and the power shuts down, with a very hot heater, you can do some serious damage to the heater, because the fan will stop blowing over the unit. Even a quick power on, power off might cause it to just stop running. Bit risky, especially if you’ve bought an expensive heater!!

[@anaphylastiks]

@@TheWrinklyNomads My friend was saying use a relay. So have a car battery for start up and cool down and soon as the amps settle down relay kicks off and draws from storage battery.

[@OK-st9st]

This is awesome! Well explained video

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Glad you liked it! 👍🏼

[@OK-st9st]

@@TheWrinklyNomads going to buy a diesel heater and 20ah lithium battery, now I can go camping for 2 days and not worry about killing my car battery. Should be enough for 2-3 nights depending on how heavy I use it.

[@theoldhobbit3640]

Can I just say your presentations and information is excellent. Easy for a numpty like me to understand and hopefully one day install and run a diesel heater. Many Thanks indeed...........

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Thank you, I'm glad it has helped. ATB, Steve

[@marcass100]

thanks for a video. am I missing something here please correct me if I am wrong. So board computer, fan and glow plug on a start-up is using lets say 7 amps for 5 minutes. then it keeps heating space at lets say 2 to 3 amps for an hour. then it goes through a finish cycle to burn glow plug clean i assume etc for another 5 minutes. so why is it then that you say its avarage amps per hour is 0.5?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Marius, Not to certain where I say those figures? So probably better to refer back to my tests. If you have a look a the video from this point kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqbZlWyQbd99fLs you'll be ale to see all the figures and working out 👍 ATB, Steve

[@raykeogh1972]

Hi it looks like you have changed your system a lot since I last saw it, I had watched you change twice but this looks much neater. Can I ask? It look like now you have the back of your heater for air to be outside your van is that right? Because it appears to be against the wall. I have not done any technical tests like you have but this is what I get. I have the same size van as yours I think ( Auto Trail Scout ) a new fully charged batter with nothing to keep it charging while running lasts me 7 days before there is a E 01 warning light meaning not enough power in the battery, for other who don’t know what that means, I know you do. I work away 5 nights a week, my heater is only for my on suite bed room. I have it on power 2 for 30 mins every morning from Weds to Sunday. And 3 hours a night from Weds to Saturday as I go home Sunday night after work. To see how long my battery would last doing those time without charge I found my battery would last 7 days and I would need to charge it. But that is no good for the battery because it is totally flat. I recharge my battery every Sunday when I get home at 8pm till the next day and it works great for another week. Just giving you an idea of what I found with mine. Great video as always I wish I was as handy as you your set up looks so neat compared to mine. Every time I get a week off I am away somewhere so never get the chance to do anything. Thanks for sharing Ray k uk YNWA.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Ray, I always work on the theory that: "if it works for you, then that's good enough..!" And you certainly seem to have your system well thought out and running smoothly and I think 7 days is pretty good. Yes, the burner is now re-positioned lower down with the air inlet drawing "fresh' air" in from the outside. I have a video of that upgrade here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnmtkoOGZ9p_fKM This seems to work well for me, although during the colder winter I have blanked off the outside and draw from the cabin. Either way, like you, it works for me.. ATB, Steve

[@raykeogh1972]

@@TheWrinklyNomads well thanks to my is working fine, but I still get E05 when it gets hot but I just take the fuse out leave it for 10 mins then lower the heat down, either way you can get to the temp you want slowly and no issue with E05, By the way I asked you about the Yamaha diesel plug on mine I had the ID 10T problem, i have tried to get the Yamaha tank installed but Thought the little pump was not strong enough to suck it through. Then I tried shortening the pipe thinking it was to long, nope not that then I remembered seeing your and you had the pump to bleed the fuel through so I changed the systemand put that on, nope so I thought I paid £11 for the pump mybe its the wrong one or no good. 3 nights ago ID 10T thought woke me up. maybe I have the pump pipe the wrong way round, so I looked to see if anything said what is the right direction and I saw a black arrow on a black pump I had not noticed before, so I redid it all and yes ID 10T error it works GREAT NOW so happy thanks to YOU. Ray K UK YNWA.

[@bertoguzman2028]

Thanks ,doing my initial lay out and your vid was very informative'

[@raczyk]

This is a 5 KW unit? Does it go over 10 amps at startup?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Yes, it’s a 5kw heater. I think you’ll find that none of these type of heaters go over the 10amps. ATB, Steve

[@fathergratwick]

The 5kwh and 8kwh heater are all exactly the same they are all clones of a german 2kwh heater.. the amount of btus out put from the amount of fuel burned determine the output.

[@fathergratwick]

@@TheWrinklyNomads they draw more sometimes when the glowplugs got some serious hours on them.

[@stevem3534]

Great video you are always so practical and informative ,advise if you had a smaller motorhome would you fit a 2kw?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Thanks Steve, I think I would still keep with the 5Kw. Would warm up the smaller volume of air quicker, which would be better. Better to have too much than too little eh.. ATB, Steve

[@mugabemaroon7295]

I only have 80ah lead acid. I'm worried I won't make it since I can only use 50%.... Dose the heater still operate if my 14.5 goes below, say, 10.3?

[@yoshimitsusushi4009]

10.3 will give u an error e01

[@smarty0604]

Great vid very informative 👍 Given these use a fair bit of amp when shutting off what would happen if say the heater was left on and the battery run out of power ?? Thus the heater not been able to pull enough amps from the battery to initiate a shut down mode . Or does it have a cut off to save it from doing that ? Does it shut it self off when the power gets really low ? Or does it just keep going until Either the battery dies or someone initiates the shut down sequence ?? If it just lets the battery die without shutting down correctly then that is likely to cause issues both to the heater and persons using it

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi, There is a low battery error code that will show on the controller to indicate the power source is low. If the battery gets below a certain point it will then initiate a safe shutdown. However, if there is a complete power loss, that could cause overheat damage to the unit and melt the wiring etc.

[@grahammutton1964]

Solid factual information which was well presented - what's not to like. 10/10 and thank you.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Graham, Thanks you for the kind comments ATB, Steve

[@jimmyreuben6919]

Thanks for that very informative film. Hope you didn't overheat too much. Happy New year

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Jimmy Thank you and glad it was helpful. I had to open a few windows and vents.....! ATB, Steve

[@jlr3636]

Question about the thermostat - if you set to 21c, the heater goes to full power, reaches room temperature of 21c, then throttles down to its lowest setting. I assume when the room temperature drops, the heater will throttle back up to full power and go through the same process. Do you set the low temperature for the heater to ramp back to full power? Does the heater thermostat setting work independently from the heater level setting (1 to 5), if you set to level 3 does the heater continue to run at that level till you shut it down. Can the heater be mounted vertically, with the hot air outlet on the top?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Yes, the thermostat setting works the same way a household one does. Set it to 21c and it'll throttle up and down to maintain that specific air temperature. You can't set a low thermostat setting, it'll just ramp back up when it drops below the temp you have it set at. If you set at level 3, it will stay there regardless of air temperature around it. It just ticks over at that level. I believe there are some units that can be mounted vertically, but don't quote me as I'm not 100% sure. Best to double heck with the manufacture's I suppose. ATB, Steve

[@bartvannimmen]

Well made video, Dan. Which make and type of diesel heater are you referring to ? Thx for sharing this technical analysis 👌

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Bart, Thank you. Its the 5Kw Chinese diesel air heater, like this one shown here: amzn.to/3mfFbk8 ATB, Steve

[@EmilDinev]

Hi - thanks for an informative video and so well explained. I am currently having an issue with my chinese diesel heater which is installed in a work van, Citroen Relay. Heater is powered by 115 Ah halfords leisure battery ( battery code hlb681) that is over 3.5 years old. I have run recently run the heater for almost 24 hrs without starting the van without when it stopped working. I have since driven / idling the van for about 10-15 minutes to give some boost to the battery. I managed to start up the heater and it was running for 2-3 hours when it stopped again. I then took voltage reading at the battery and it read 11.49 volts. I am assuming the battery has dropped below the required voltage level to keep powering the heater sufficiently. Can anyone advise please?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Emil, You would get error code:01 which indicates low voltage. Although 11.49 is a bit low I would of thought you'd still be ok..? That said, it certainly sounds a like a battery issue. ATB, Steve

[@danielionut4738]

Hello . Approximately, how many amperes does it consume in 10 hours, set to a power of 2 hz?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Daniel, I have only done the full test as shown in the video. However, from my calculations it would use 6.5Ah in at 10 hour period. But, in my case, this was to raise the temp up by 10 degs Hope this helps, ATB, Steve

[@scarysarah2002]

Hi, I want to remove the old gas heater in my motorhome. It doesn't work, so I'm having a diesel heater fitted. Do you have a tutorial for when you removed yours (if you did that is). I'd like to use all of that area for storage now. Love your videos, thanks 😁

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Unfortunately I don’t have a video on that. It was pretty straight forward though. A diesel heater is a much better choice. ATB, Steve

[@a1pestservice]

Thanks for your video, but I'm easily confused. I've ordered an 8khw diesel heater for my garage and wondering what I should use to power it. Car battery/Leasure Battery or mains power adaptor? Thanks

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

So long as the power source can deliver a constant supply you will be ok. The Amps need to be over 10 to cope with start up power.

[@tomasthomas7407]

Pretty straight forward, and chock full of good, clearly presented info 👍🏻👍🏻

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Thank you Tomas, Glad it was helpful for you. ATB, Steve

[@mike-indiana6643]

Thank you sir !

[@DieserMaBel]

Great Video, thank you!

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Glad you liked it 👍

[@thermos750]

Great video, so 6.5amp hours is what it would take out of the battery, in recharge words, 6 hrs back on the charger to bring the battery to 100%? Or am I calculating that wrong? How do you convert 6.5 amps from a battery to volts from a battery?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Chris Doesn’t quite work like that, but long as you can put back the 6.5amps used you should be fine. This will all depend on you charge amount any charge time. You will find it varies considerably on what battery and recharge system you have. ATB, Steve

[@Kevin-pm7fj]

Can i wire a 5kw heater straight to my t5 transporter t5 battery? Would this kill my battery overnight?

[@americanwhiteboy715]

Would like to know what size deep cycle battery is needed for a continuous run time of about 12 hrs before I would be able to charge it for the 8kw diesel heater

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi This amount is base on my setup and conditions, it will differ slightly for yours. However, to run constantly for 12 hours I would use approximately 7.5Amps. Again, depending on your setup, namely what type of battery you have, that would be another factor. Personally, I would go for a minimum of 50 amp hour. ATB, Steve

[@richardsanborn7963]

THIS IS WHERE EVERYONE FROM SOLAR TO WHAT EVER SCREWS UP! AND OF COURSE WHO EVER IS SELLING YOU BATTERIES WONT TELL YOU THIS THEY WANT TO SELL BATTERIES IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT IF THE CALULATIONS SAY YOU NEED A 100aH GET 10X THAT AMOUNT IF BUDGET AND ROOM PERMITS COMPARE IT TO A VEHICAL AS LONG AS YOU JUST START YOUR CAR AND RUN THE LIGHTS WHILE DRIVING AND BARELY DRAIN THEM THEY CHARGE WITH OUT HARM BUT IF YOU LEAVE THE KEY OR LIGHRTS ON AND DRAIN IT AFTER 4 OR 5 TIMES THAT BATTERY IS ABOUT DEAD USED UP THEY GET JUST ENOUGH BATTERY TO WORK! GO AS OVER BOARD ON YOUR BATTERIES AS ROOM AND BUDGET WILL ALLOW BY DOING THIS IT DONT MATTER IF YOU RUN LEAD ACID BATTERIES FOR SOLAR IF YOU ARE BARELY SCRATCHING OFF THE TOTAL CAPASITY THEN RECHARGING DOESNT HURT THEM NONE SORRY FOR CAPS DO YOU GET WHERE IM GOING WITH THIS>>>????

[@ke4gbe]

@@TheWrinklyNomads Thanks for the info, but there important questions everyone misses! Using a 50ah lithium battery, can you run a diesel heater for two nights? I've run one constantly on low for 14 hours, but not sure how much longer it would have lasted. So, would it be correct to plan for 100ah for two nights? And a second question - Is it better to run the unit for an hour or two and then turn off, or to run it on the lowest setting all night long? Startup and shutdown use a lot of power.

[@TheProspectormike]

What happens if you start the rv and the voltage goes up to 14.1v to 14.9v while charging from battery ? and can i run it off a battery 100ah 12v while its on a battery maintainer ? in case of power outage

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Depends on change methods. ie: B2B, split charger etc. But Even then if not within perimeters it will show error codes. Yes it’s fine to run off separate battery.

[@markmacdonald7291]

Hi what sort of solar panel do I need for keeping the leisure battery topped up...only using battery for the heater whilst camping...thanks for any advice

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Any basic solar panel will work. I have the Renogy panel like these and they work ok; amzn.to/3DXO9vm Alternatively, I would go with a portable and foldable panel something like this on: amzn.to/3UOTdJc I use one to run a Jackery power pack and its very good. Review here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z53GgpRtnJmjo7M ATB, Steve

[@donner101]

This is a great explanation it's clears up for me that the start up of say 7 amps doesn't actually take 7 amps off your battery.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Thank you, glad it helped out 👍

[@elfillari]

I've wondering can I use a standard 220V(AC)/12V(DC,

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Can't see no reason why not to. Just try it out. The controller will give you an error code if it can't do it anyway.👍

[@lezbriddon]

Just to second your other answers, yes, infact theres a youtube channel where a guy heats his shed with one using an 'LED lighting' transformer off ebay, think its a 250w one but i see no issues with 300 or 400w models. I use a 400w one as a fast charger for my old lead acids

[@alanjackson4646]

Great informative delivery. Thanks AJ

[@predictablejesse6497]

hi im just looking for a recommendation on how many ah deep cycle battery i would need to run this for 8 hours including start up? would 100ah be sufficient? I am in Canada and would like to run one in my ice hut for ice fishing. thanks!

[@donaldengel4128]

I'm nobody's expert but my understanding is... the heater will use ~2 Amp hours to bring the area up to temp (assuming similar size space), and then ~.5 Amp-hours per hour afterwards to maintain it. So 2 Ah for the first hour, then 4.5 Ah to maintain temp. Total of 6.5 Ah (ballpark number) to run the heater for 8 hours. The battery has 100Ah. So yes, it should be more than enough. Note that Lead Acid batteries you can only use 50% of the total. So 50Ah in this case. Still plenty.

[@jessefolster9936]

Perfect thanks. I have ran it for 2 full days now with charging it each night. I picked myself up a 100w solar panel now so I'm hoping that's the end of taking it home to charge at night. As long as we get some sun that is. I also added a inverter and a small 24" led tv and it all seems to hold its own for an 8 hour period. I believe the TV pulls an average of 24w

[@fijiannz_44newzealandadven48]

I have just set one of these up for Roof top tent camping. Was hoping my 80Ah Agm would be happy to run this all night without using upto 50% .. I think i should be ok. Haha. Thank you for this video

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Roof tent..!!! Interesting 🤔 Yeah, your battery should just about do it for one night. ATB, Steve

[@heliosmediafilms]

why one night? Hes got 80Ah where 50 percent is 40aH. According to the consumption that you have measured it should run 40 divided by 6 Ah which is 6 nights. Am I missing something here? Thanks @@TheWrinklyNomads

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi, No your not missing a thing! Your exactly right.... I have no idea why I have said it 'just about' run it? It'll probably run even longer.... Thank you for pointing that out 👍 ATB, Steve

[@chrisbrown5916]

My heater seems to all of a sudden be using way more electric than it used to.....I wonder is a service needed?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Chris, That's very possible. The fan bearings do wear out causing more load on the motor, even the pump can wear out and cease up gradually. If it's gotten noticeably high then it's definitely worth considering. I have just done mine after 1500 hours, although I didn't change the fan bearings, I have a service video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3SsmYuvn6akqNE Hope this helps Steve

[@kayrowaaa87]

I have a 12v 10ah battery. How long will it power my diesel heater? Thanks

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

You will probably find that battery is not powerful enough to cope with a normal diesel heater. Unfortunately 10Ah is far to small. 😞

[@kayrowaaa87]

What power station would you recommend?

[@harrykim8372]

about 4.5 hour

[@kayrowaaa87]

@@TheWrinklyNomads I ended up going with the Dakota lithium powerbox 135. It has a 135ah battery. I wanted to make sure I have enough power.

[@anthonywiggins3959]

Thanks for this gr8 video it so simplethe way you explained it mate

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Glad it helped👍

[@Yukonjackman1]

Love that little meter been using it for years for testing items. Its so simple to get data from.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Gary, Agree with you there... It's a very handy bit of kit eh... Simple and effective 👍

[@FedorLejepekov]

Thank You, very useful and easy to read information.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Thank you for watching… Glad it was helpful 👍🏼

[@steve.uk.3157]

Hello… Great video… I am planning on fitting one of these heater’s in my workshop using a transformer from 240 to 12v instead of. Battery do I need to place a inline fuse from the transformer to the unit. What size fuse would I use thanks Steve

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Steve I would add an inline 10Amp fuse for extra protection. 👍

[@pauls466]

They come with a 15 amp fuse and your transformer has to be 15 amp or more

[@petermoygannon698]

I've got a 100 ah 12 volt lithium battery. So it looks like this battery will do this easy for 12 hrs.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Peter. Yes, it would run it with no problems.

[@stephenblaze4571]

Really good thanks just about to set up a heater for my shed/Greenhouse hoping it will work

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Glad it helped Stephen and thanks for watching 👍

[@roadbiker8333]

Oh that’s a 5kw heater from the comments. Thanks for the video, always wondered. How long i can run this with a 100ah battery

[@fathergratwick]

they are all the same size. clones of a 2kwh german heater. it you do the math on the fuel consumption and BTUs it proves it they all output between 2-3kwh

[@roadbiker8333]

@@fathergratwick but the 2kw is physicaclly smaller than the 5kw, i have both. Although i did turn the 5kw one down to 2kw settings, but the max on 5kw is definitely brings the temperature much faster than the 2kw one.

[@fathergratwick]

@@roadbiker8333 yes im aware they make smaller version too thanks for pointing out my error. I just did some quick research the larger version is a direct clone to the original german Eberspacher "D4" 4kwh heater they copied.. The smaller one is the D2 2.2kwh if you search here you will see multiple test videos where they break down the btus in the fuel consumption and all these chinese heaters ive seen tested were below 3kwh in output regardless of setting and fuel pump or advertised size. The whole 5-8kwh thing is just marketing exaggeration to sell like they do with batteries. The patent ran out on the german heater so the chinese cloned it exactly.

[@p8nty]

Great video! Would you say it would be fine to run off a normal starter battery (90-100ah) for say a day van scenario, short weekend trips ran for 4-6hrs max in one night but to start car in morning to charge it back up?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Yes definitely enough power there.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

@@p8nty have a look at my video on how to calculate exact fuel consumption. You can accurately see the amount you would use: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGm2nH53obR0rrc

[@Only-Me-Again123]

Thanks for this mate, I've searched the web for this information and found nothing. Your video has all the answers I was looking for. Top man 👍 Ps, I.ve tried finding the meter you are using cuz I like the way it measures. Any idea where I can get one from please?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi, Thanks for your comments, glad it helped. I bought the meter from Amazon, here's the link: amzn.to/3uzHq6v ATB, Steve

[@Only-Me-Again123]

@@TheWrinklyNomads Many thanks. I've subbed to the channel, excellent content!

[@smethurstmartin]

That's some great information really helpful Thanks

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Thank for watching 👍

[@dgrolfe]

My manual for the same heater recommends a voltage range of 11.5 to 12.8. However, when charging the batteries (solar), they can often get up to 14.5V. Can you see anything in the manual or the manufacturer that has a maximum voltage?

[@Jphilipson]

You're fine

[@pauls466]

if the voltage is to high it will shut off To low as well

[@stanthevan5694]

Great input, with the price of bottled gas about to go through the roof, this is surely the way to go for us MH owners who use our vehicles all year around.

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Agree with Stan... Bottled gas is just going stupid now.!!!

[@largemarge1603]

@@TheWrinklyNomads Eugene, Oregon. Some re-fillers are out of propane. Some exchange-cages have only empty bottles. . I finally found exchange bottles in a closed garden-supply area of a Fred Meyer grocery store... dated mid-2015. . An aside: Southern California railway yards, entire trains of boxcars, emptied, vandalized, waist-deep discarded cardboard boxes. Is this is your neighborhood, too?

[@stephb7702]

I’m a newbie here… can someone just let me know if I’d be able to use this all night on max with a Blueetti 2000w/h power station?

[@TheWrinklyNomads]

Hi Steph, The Blueetti 2000 is certainly capable of running these heaters for a night and more. But be aware: using the 12v cigarette lighter outlet may not be able to fully handle the 10A draw at startup. I would suggest you use a AC -DC power adapter which will give you 12V at 30Amps and use it that way. You can get them from Amazon: amzn.to/3skg32X Hope this helps, Steve

[@roadbiker8333]

Usually cigarette sockets are Only rated at 10A, so not a lot of headrooms you have there. However, you should always hardwire the heater to a battery, if the power station shuts off for whatever reason, the heater will burn it’s motherboard as it needs a proper run down procedure to cool it down. Probably worth getting on a Separate small 12v battery, just for the heater.