Choosing a dumbphone ain't easy!

[@ordinarypen8369]

Screw it. I'll just use a carrier pidgeon.

[@terileef3330]

hahahaha

[@Gavsplace]

Those are extinct

[@Adriel-yf8rv]

@@Gavsplace just like my dad

[@TheCHADsession]

🤣🤣🤣

[@omarnova6723]

I dont mean to be so off topic but does any of you know of a way to log back into an Instagram account..? I was dumb forgot my password. I love any tricks you can offer me

[@julzmma]

Screw it! I’ll just talk face to face...

[@patrickbodine6010]

👍

[@TheShelleybeans]

Sorry, they're doing away with face to face with the rollout of 5G🤣

[@benpopham8500]

@@TheShelleybeans it will be sooner than we think

[@theislandwithin]

🤣🤣🤣

[@nshaff3r]

@@TheShelleybeans 💀💀

[@crucifixgym]

Screw it, I'm just going full land line.

[@cinnematic]

Thraxton Stirling Nobody goes full land line..

[@FixItYerself]

Hey, no one said you had to go Amish

[@southerncaliforniadeplorab9363]

@@cinnematic that's right it still runs through switchboards (central office) and then put back out on Wi-Fi, or into the wireless Realm, and then put back down to switch boards (central office) and rerouted to your home. Enjoy. 🙉🙊🙈 *Just say no to 5G and Plant a 🌲🌳*

[@cyclotechtwister1997]

Thraxton Stirling - No such thing as old school landline, most if not all offer/supply DSL internet which means possible spy tool once again.

[@FixItYerself]

@@cyclotechtwister1997 true. If you're trying to disguise conversations you're better off getting a low-latency network connection and using encrypted vpn

[@gregf9160]

Thanks, Scotty. I'm in the process of dumping the smartphone and going back to a nice dumbphone. It ain't easy.

[@Mindplay591]

Greg F Did you do it? How far did you go?

[@Lifeisgood262]

I am, too. I’m just overwhelmed at all the information and misinformation out there. I appreciate your help, Scottie!! 👍🏼

[@Kolona222]

Good on ya, I am back now for almost 2 years, believe me its getting easier every month and after a couple of months you will enjoy the quietness as soon as you leave home, just make sure to get one with a good camera as most got only 2 mp and a good camera is still quite handy

[@therealjackfisher]

We call them burner phones. They are supposed to be cheap. You use it for whatever you need and get rid of it to never use again. Usually phones like this are used to commit a crime or some illegal activity. That can be anything from making a phonecall to even avoiding taxes, avoiding being traced.

[@sinongmakulet]

Screw it. I'll use smoke signal instead.

[@Mindplay591]

Ross G Be careful. Sometimes you can send message to wrong person if the weather is windy

[@sinongmakulet]

@@Mindplay591 Hahaha

[@TheFloodFourm]

Yea dumb phones are probably more difficult to obtain right now then they've ever been. If you're in the USA your options pretty much only consist of the Alcatel Go Flip; from what I've researched every carrier will have 3g and 2g dropped by the end of 2019 and the 8110 simply does not work on our towers. The light(phone) at the end of the tunnel is that the 3110 and 8110 obviously have a following and any quick google search will reveal there is a demand for 4g dumb phones that is not being met. More people everywhere wants to get less connected and it should only be a matter of time before the market picks up on that.

[@dean4125]

I spent over 2 hours last night trying to find a dumb phone without any luck.lol. I really want to disconnect but I cant seem to find one without internet or wifi.

[@creestee08]

Theres BLU phone.

[@creestee08]

@@dean4125 🤩🤩🤩

[@Growmap]

@@dean4125 Read my comment up above. Buy one on eBay. Get a cheap service if you don't need unlimited data, texts or minutes. Mine is $60 for 360 days.

[@Lifeisgood262]

I sure hope so

[@sanjindumisic]

Hi! Here's my criteria: 2G, no camera, dual sim, nothing besides sms/calling. Cheap. 20-30€ maximum. That's for Europe. If you travel far away, just go to a kiosk and get some cheap card+phone =) I remember that video you did, good one and thank you for this follow up. All the best

[@cinnematic]

I think I know how to handle this conundrum. I will put my spy phone under my wheels and roll over it repeatedly.

[@southerncaliforniadeplorab9363]

LoL 🤔obviously, that will work. Maybe we should all go back to CB radios, and ham gear. Then again I guess some string and a couple of Soup cans, could always suffice.

[@cyclotechtwister1997]

Southern California Deplorable Henry Lindeman - Funny you should say that, some folks are getting back into CB/Ham for more of a local chatter..

[@ScottiesTech]

I salute you!

[@kenfarley957]

10-4 good buddy. I miss cb.

[@johnkelly7757]

I had a horrible thought-when is 6G coming?

[@johnfoltz8183]

Screw it, I'm using two cans and a piece of string.

[@moulee7448]

Lolll

[@andrzejvlasov1689]

lollll

[@StellaAsh]

I live in England and have a 'Doro' basic phone. About $30 American. Its aimed at 'older people' ie it is very basic and it's fine for my needs.

[@riverdeep399]

Stella Ash Hi :) can I ask where you ordered it from? I checked through all my old polyphonic phones and , no good. I'm also in the UK, Midlands :)

[@StellaAsh]

@@riverdeep399 I ordered it online through Tesco. I tapped Doro basic phone into a search engine and it is available everywhere.

[@LanielPhoto]

Don't have to choose - still using My Motorola dumb phone purchased 15 years ago, and I pay the huge sum of $10 a month to use it. Figure I saved at least $10,000 over the past 15 years, never experienced the frustrations of a smart phone, no one can track me, turn on my microphone or video without me knowing, and I use a real camera (Nikon D850) and not the rinky dink toy cameras found in even the best of cellphones (ie:I compared the fairly new Samsung S22 to my Nikon - no comparison at all...). And I know enough to shoot horizontal video, meaning no narrow stripe of video with black on both sides - unless you only look at the videos on a miniature screen like a cellphome.

[@toxlaximus3297]

What I'm after is a phone that is like a CB radio in the sense that the transmitter is far away from the mic and speaker, the further the better. When I go out its like watching the invasion of the body snatchers, people everywhere are glued to their magnetron's like moths to a flame.

[@DieselTrucker2018]

The CB is making a come-back and with 5G coming out... it WILL be back BIG TIME!! I already purchased a Uniden 980 SSB-

[@slickwillie3376]

True that!!

[@ukknightrider]

Dude I’m more confused now than I was before watching this 😳🙄

[@davidsoderberg9658]

Here in Sweden we still have GSM (2G) and its going to be supported for many years to come. Currently looking on auction sites for an old Nokia!

[@ScottiesTech]

Yeah, I live in the boonies in France, and we'll prolly have 2G for another 10 years. We were one of the last areas to get 4G, so I know we won't get 5G until 2087, probably... Still, I'd love to have a 4G dumbphone. Just withOUT Google... GRR.

[@DacLMK]

Here in Macedonia 2G would be supported for many years to come too. I recently bought a very cheap Alcatel phone in a store in my city (that phone is no longer available in my country) for 21 euros. The model name is Alcatel 2002d. It's a 2.5 G phone, it only has GPRS, no EDGE. The best thing about this phone is it's huge 1800mAh battery. It lasted me 15 days on a single charge. If you want a phone for calling and texting and you find this phone, I strongly recommend it, especially for it's long lasting battery life.

[@ugandan24]

@@ScottiesTech what about a ubuntu mobile phone?

[@seanzappulla71]

David Söderberg here in Australia all of the cell phone companies has shut down the 2G networks. They have used the 1.8 GHz band that used to be for 2G and it’s now getting used for 4G and the same with the 2.1Ghz from 3G to 4G in some areas on some providers.

[@DieselTrucker2018]

@ David Söderberg Be Thankful!!

[@rattsjcfanpage01]

What phone do you use now? Since the towers now changed?

[@EternalLovefield]

I'm really sad about the potential discontinuation of 3G in the USA at some point. I've used import Japanese flip phones here for years and they don't have matching bands for 4G service. Hopefully I will be out of school and living in Japan by the time this happens so I can continue to use their beautifully designed water resistant/shockproof phones.

[@ScottiesTech]

Yeah, the Japanese make some very cool phones. The first time I learned about them, I fell off my chair.

[@strayeddm2882]

Got any models worth looking up I'm curious lol

[@askquestions4634]

Scottie, I love your channel because I can tell how much you love doing what you do here. Thanks!

[@majorskies7091]

From my understanding in the UK - they are doing away with 3G but are keeping 2G for legacy devices - why not the other way around I don't know but the example devices they give was home alarm systems and dog trackers etc :s'

[@Among-the-trees]

In the UK 2G is likely to be with us until 2039. Much more likely to have 3G turned off sooner. Many rural areas only have 2G, older population, etc

[@nisanight2247]

So happy I watched your video even if I saw it in 2021. Went back to my KZbin search and a Nokia 2720 flip phone comes up like the answer to a prayer with a kaiOS. If I hadn't listened to you, I wouldn't have known. My theory is that all things learned will be useful at some point. Thanks!

[@justaweeb9086]

Screw it, I'll just use my social skills

[@chrisp.lettuce8900]

Where can i pick up some of those?

[@playeroflife]

I use my 2007 Sony Ericsson k800i and it rocks. I bought 3 batteries in 2007 and I'm only on 2nd one now. Cool video and channel.

[@07sawyerr]

Between these vids and the tribble and the feminist Alexa you have a new follower tonight! I dug my (3G) Nokia E71 out of the drawer last year & it's been running great (QWERTY keyboard!). Won't be supported forever but calls, SMS, MMS, all work great. 10 years ago was the most advanced phone on the market. Fortunately my provider (Mint Mobile in US) support team has been friendly & hasn't pushed me around about it either. My two cents to add, if you do go for a legacy phone, in the old days the advice was to always buy the OEM battery. But now that they aren't made any more, they're all counterfeit now, or past their shelf life, so buy third party so you have someone who's actually standing behind their brand name. I found a German company called Polarcell that works great. Also I have a feeling you would dig the "No Agenda" podcast. Just a hunch!

[@danielrudilille]

In Norway 3G are gone in 2019. And 2G are still ok because so much components is using 2G.

[@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040]

Mountaneous region. Keep 2G intact!

[@johng.4959]

Old video - Can we can an update on these phones Scottie? Carriers seem to be eliminating 3g (and even 4g!) phones. Thanks!

[@shaun5427]

My days are numberd with phones , no dumb phone , no phone at all .Those 5G LED sreetlamps ae already being instaled testing them now in the UK .They do come with health hazerds that are deniyed by these corparations and media silence.Is anyone else aware of this yet ?

[@shaun5427]

@nunchaku101 They can't put the dumb things down , no one knows how to live anymore . All this electronic crap is costing them money for what , looking at a screen ? 4k ? That's Bullshit

[@shaun5427]

@nunchaku101 Yep that's the problem , no one suspects that they are the new cell towers right on top of them " everywhere "

[@shaun5427]

Sharon Yarwood True about killing who is not a slave . The bible is also fabricated by agencys like every other belief . Everything was planned a long time ago . History is right under our feet . Everything that is written is a lie , its all a belief . All mined control.

[@shaun5427]

nvsbl2 The arogance of the bible agian on youtube . Can you guys think for yourself ? The bible is written by agenceys of this age to distract you , a clever one at that ! Made up as we speak I use to believe in father Christmas , note the word Christ in there ? All presented by the Elite no doubt .

[@shaun5427]

nvsbl2 You only know what you have been told . People believe in anything these days without any question or thought . If I started going on about it all the time to my mates , they would dump me out . Sick of hearing the same old crap over & over .

[@kerriemills1310]

Yes, indeed, Like how you have explained that around many different flavours. different providers and different countries. I think I got that greenie yellow dumb phone you have on your workbench...from earlier. still got it hanging around the home somewhere...This has been very helpful again. Thank you Scottie. (ps, Cletus is a wonderful co-host with you)

[@Weaseltube]

Solution: 4G dumbphone with an OS that doesn't spy on you and costs peanuts, that would be a used BB10 phone. It currently still has browsing capabilities and some functional apps but their smart functionality is dying pretty quick. But the phone and text functions will be around as long as 4G. Yet stillplenty of useful pre-internet functions like radio, flashlight, alarm, camera... The perfect disconnected phone.

[@DieselTrucker2018]

What about the Z30 smart phone? It runs BB10.3.1

[@Weaseltube]

@@DieselTrucker2018 That's exactly what I have (actually a Z30 on 10.3.3 to be precise). As a bonus I have to add, since turning off WiFi and data the thing runs for a week on the battery charged to 80% and run down to 20%, unless you use the phone/text a lot. Keeping the battery charge between 20 and 80 percent will help it last a long, long time.

[@h.b.5577]

Now here is an interesting alternative for the privacy focused that many seem to have forgotten, the blackberry classic. It has 4g capability, but runs bb10 and doesn't have any spyware on it. While it does support the amazon app store, you can easily ignore it if you so wish and use the device either as a dumb phone at it's most basic state, or snap up some of the bb10 application before black berry world (I think that's what the app store on it was called, but I'm not 100% sure) closes down and make it into a basic feature phone.

[@rhealitytv.9999]

Harry Bob ..I've activated my blackberry bold 2 years ago..it's my second line..love it! I miss my old flip..still have my galaxy note 4...can take battery out...gives me piece of mind..but my blkberry bold is 3G..I was told by Verizon recently.. do not turn it off..we won't be aloud to turn it back on...so I'm holding on by my fingers...it's the best phone I've ever had!...no more support from them either..we're on our own.....there's a big plan for 5g..plzzzz check out 5g and scientific findings..it's not 3g.4g and oh theres.5g...it's something totally different.. ww2 microwave weaponry. .not good...Oh my land line is ringing! must answer it...good video..thsnks! good luck everyone..:)

[@DieselTrucker2018]

I boycotted Amazon a couple of years ago due to it being owned by an evil elitist!!

[@DieselTrucker2018]

@@rhealitytv.9999 Verizon is Horrorizon!! They are the most evil cell company.

[@thomascunningham5483]

In the USA, I just bought a Nokia 6300 4G phone that I use with T-Mobile. It seems OK. I agree that it is difficult to find a basic phone that has good quality (reliable).

[@HearTruth]

Scottie the Lord took my phone away also the TV ( that was years ago) I have a landline and Ethernet that is more than suffieicient God Bless you and you good works.! r/s I am 2 months + Cell free Praise God. Phili 4:13 13 *I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me* .

[@HearTruth]

@nvsbl2 i am not kidding He did...He took it away from me b/c He loves me... first i was so addiicted to TV had Dish I moved and they wouldn't take dish so I canceled out.. so no more TV and to this day Spectrum knocks on my door t install fckn spectrum rectum 5G in my house no thanks...... and stayed YT internet next FREE Android phone hhahaah FRee Gov't Cell phne omyg i hated it I smashed it on the curb went back to flip phone but then it died so Iam land line now.. not by my choice b/c Father He forbade it and so........ hat you can not understand that? go back to your regularly TV programs then

[@RDaneelOliwav]

@@HearTruth oh lord, you should read something else from time to time.. I mean read it actually fully w/o cherry picking and leave it then for good

[@calvinkelley2738]

This is like...saying Santa Claus got you off heroine. Or that the Easter rabbit cured your cancer.

[@icecreamladydriver1606]

@nvsbl2 You were the smart one.

[@shaun5427]

jennifer siagian no bible here , we do fine without religus belief lol

[@graiypz]

picked up the 3g nokia 3310. currently loving it. its day 3 and ive texted a LOT, browsed the web (tried), played snake a bit, made some calls, and still have yet to charge it. pretty cool. had the iphone 6SE which of course i loved but, between several games, and social media apps, i was just glued to it 24/7 and it was driving me crazy. a lot of anxiety when i have so many things to reply to and do the daily things on the games and whatnot. now ive gotten home, and breathed a sigh of relief knowing ive temporarly dropped it all. feels nice right now. cheers. and 50 bucks!!! cant beat that! slipped in my sim card (t mobile, US) and was off to the races.

[@ScottiesTech]

Yeah, so far I'm loving the long battery life of the 3310.

[@rattsjcfanpage01]

I’m buying a flip phone soon

[@rudimentaryganglia]

Are you Bob Ross reincarnated?

[@ScottiesTech]

I can neither confirm nor deny those rumors, but I will say that I do have a lot of happy little accidents...

Damn so I can't use my old 90s Agent Mulder phone.

[@huibwetzel9299]

Thank you Scotty, I will spread your info !

[@davehooper6481]

Thank you for all of your fine print reading. Very informative.

[@aslguldalbudak1005]

Here is an idea. On my smartphone and guessing some other smartphones there is an option like "ultra stamina mode". (The name might change from brand to brand.) On this mode your phone kills every advenced smartphone application and google services to save power. So you're only left with calling, texting, clock/calendar, music, camera and pictures. At the end of the day you have a touch screen dumbphone with 4G and no google or other data copying apps.

[@saxonsaxonsaxon1]

I am thinking of getting an old blackberry. Blackberry OS was known for its security and the Blackberry Bold 9900 is a 4g phone that has browser and email capabilities but on a 4g network. Do you think this is a good option Scottie?

[@ScottiesTech]

I'd say the Blackberry OS certainly isn't "immune", but much better than Android or iOS.

[@vinnietheoneandonly2331]

If Kaios is Linux based, is there a Kaios user community 'fix' that removes all the Google search functions ?

[@ΓιώργοςΠαπαγεωργόπουλος-ε9λ]

Android is also linux based but you are stuck with Google's scum apps.

[@DieselTrucker2018]

@Andrew Driver What about the Ubuntu phone OS?

[@DieselTrucker2018]

@Andrew Driver I just read an article on how google can track you no matter what device you have!

[@DieselTrucker2018]

@Andrew Driver I do Fastmail and soon to get a BB Classic.

[@navigatorofnone]

If it can be added then it can be removed. Visit xda. Com and check if they have clean version of kaiOs

[@michaelelmer7043]

Hi Scottie,in the uk we now have a zte 2312 that works on 4g.its on the three network.it doesn't use kai os.✌

[@juslikefrusciante]

Hey Scottie, Nokia does sell a 4G version of the 3310. However, it's so rarely marketed and is only meant for the China. Runs on Yun OS. It's a very important phone that the global market never got 😒

[@Guzghash]

It’s especially difficult if you’re living in a country where feature/dumb phones are absolutely not available and the government restricts anyone trying to buy devices abroad…

[@olifri]

There is a Swiss company that manufactures a dumb phone called Punkt. It uses blackberry security features. I have one and I am very happy with it.

[@peacepeace5788]

I check them out on amazon the cost is above $100. On amazon is from 500 t 700

[@ermonski]

It's really not easy. However in the country where I'm from, 2G is king along with the other bandwidths and tons of people still use 2G phones. I think it's a great idea to carry a dumbphone as your main call and text phone, and a smartphone for your entertainment needs (music, games, social media, movies, emails, Viber/WhatsApp/FB Messenger)

[@ScottiesTech]

That's what I do. I still have a smartphone and tablet, but for daily phone + text needs, I use a dumbphone. Sometimes, it's handy to have the smartphone or tablet - like when traveling and you don't want to lug a laptop around!

[@ermonski]

@@ScottiesTech awesome. Here in my country prepaid is king, so some of us don't have to pay for data plans!

[@cravis123]

I had in the past Nokia 515 and I think it was one of the best "dumb phone" ever made. Great design, high quality sound, gorilla glass...Now I have Nokia 8110 and it is not "the same"...the software(KaiOS) has so many bugs that I am somehow disappointed...I heard it will repair in the near future with an update, but I just wait and wait...by the way, I love how Punkt mp02 phone looks....

[@hootsmin]

Having played about with the smartphones a bit here are tips for users who are forced to operate the thing: Disable the 4G, this can be turned back on if you need extra bandwidth momentarily but otherwise should not be used. Turn off the data, this can be toggled on to collect messages and emails as required but you should definately keep this turned off as the data packet seems to be more dangerous than the other signaling (except calls). It goes without saying you should have the NFC, WiFi and Bluetooth disabled. These tips are for those who are forced to use the device, those who are not should use aeroplane mode extensively especially EMF sensitives. EMF senstives should keep the phone a couple of inches from the body even in aeroplane mode as it may emit a small magnetic field which may cycle frequencies, I believe this is due to the CPU speedstepping and poor shielding.

[@SchweinJunge57]

Punkt. M02 is the one I've been looking at trying. Still pricy though

[@DieselTrucker2018]

They can still get your data on airplane mode and actually even more so. Do your research!

[@hootsmin]

@@DieselTrucker2018 If you were a person of special interest to the alphabet soup crew they can modify your phone to transmit in aeroplane, most of us are quite frankly not that interesting. You can confirm it is not transmitting with an EMF meter if you are the paranoid type. I spend plenty time on research dont you worry. If they want my data how am I supposed to stop them, they have all the hardware back doors in everything? Theres only so much you can do even if you are competent with technology.

[@BenjaminBjornsen]

In Norway they have promised not to turn off gsm/2g/m2m before 2025, most likely not before 2030

[@spb1179]

Why don't you make a video on how to turn off and on (mechanically) your iPhone antennas

[@GooseGunner]

12 gauge shotgun

[@Mindplay591]

A faraday cage

[@brenthaymon280]

Just use a hammer.

[@Ju13n1s2e9]

Kind of agree to your kaios critism. Have a cat b35 phone, after the latest OS upgrade, they added a "wonderful" easy-to-reach menu on left side of screen (kind of like the bottom menu in Apple OS). But there are only the "app store" and the google services, so it is completely useless (bloated). To reach most used functions such as alarm or sms, takes uncomfortable many key clicks.

[@ScottiesTech]

I have a Nokia 8810 4G with KaiOS, and I'll be doing a vid on it soon. It's actually not too shabby. They don't even make you sign in to KaiOS or Google accounts by default. And the apps available are quite limited, so it isn't even close to a "full Android phone".

[@naturecollision]

what's your opinion on 5G being able to be weaponized/cancer causing?

[@allisonjuno7654]

Screw it, I'm just gonna communicate with grunts and noises

[@anthonyellis4915]

Blackberry Torch? 3G or 4G, basic (dead operating system but stil extremely secure OS) and no Google.

[@edwasil7450]

WOW TALK ABOUT CONFUSING,BEAM ME UP SCOTTIE

[@melodyflower1045]

Librem 5...what do you think of this alternative?

[@Spertin94]

Expensive

[@RetroCaptain]

I am considering this one. Built tough, and easy to use. First to learn if how long I can use it before the system won't accept it. I will purchase if I can replace the dying battery, which you cannot on Sealed ones. They are throwaway basically.

[@ingebrecht]

Many used cars have trackers mounted in them. New cars do too. So get an antique car. No computer! Get a GPS receive only, get an old receive only pager, access the internet through a VPN far from where you live. Now for this phone thing... Preferably none. Best bet would actually be a sip connection through Wi-Fi encrypted voice link only. People who call you should be equally paranoid. They need compatible encryption set up. Hopefully rubber hose Oracle decryption will not take place. A dark net message dead drop might be useful. You also need a flying saucer to commute back and forth to a civilized world. Beam me up Cletus!

[@hahahano2796]

IIRC it was federally mandated in the US that every car 2014 or newer have a black box type system. Given real cost of new vehicles I frankly wonder why many buy new when all they are buying is a shitbox.

[@hahahano2796]

@Joe Casson , I stated "...buy new...". I understand why people have personal vehicles.

[@snesleywipessqueegeeservices]

Cool videos, have just ordered some copper for making a F box. I have a question: are you still running your CAT dumbphone? I'm toying with getting one but...it seems to be all there is of any quality out here...but...it's 2 years old. Do you know of a more modern version/update/new better model?

[@riverdeep399]

Please excuse the dumb question. But, I like in a terrace house, back to back housing, I suffer tinnitus and bad migraines most days, everyone in my estate has all sorts of WiFi and gadets, how can I lessen the bombardment? If at all. Unfortunately, off grid isnt within reach yet. If ever :(

[@marcinwojciechowski3577]

In Poland we have 2G/3G/4G and we can buy Nokia 3110 2G and 3g , this is two difrent dumbphones. In mall we can buy very interesting phone Allview H3 join 3g but there is 2,8 lcd screen. Only 8110 have 4g but in browser you can choose duck duck Go oraz Bing . You can also do not activate Google account and service.

[@ScottiesTech]

Ah, so you aren't required to use the Googley stuff? Good to know!

[@marcinwojciechowski3577]

@@ScottiesTech but without google You have only poor store with few games and tweeter ap. There's no FB ap .

[@ScottiesTech]

Marcin Wojciechowski Works for me! ;)

[@willwade1101]

I'm still using an LG Convoy 2 from 2012. I've been told by Verizon I will need to upgrade within the next couple of years because they will be doing away with 3G. It sucks.

[@BxrHavik]

Is there any update for safe phones? With Pegasus being a major problem now for any of us with a smartphone, iOS and Android are both unsuitable phone OS's. KaiOS is also apparently unsuitable, and phones with GPS and Bluetooth, VoLTE, and Wifi are also undesirable. So what the hell do we even use? lol. I was excited about the Punkt MP02 Pigeon phone because it supports Signal, but then I learned it has Wifi, VoLTE and it uses non google android. The latter means that Pegasus could easily target it so I don't even know what to use.

[@tenshib5951]

Several Kyocera flips are 4g.. I have a Kyocera Cadence which is a super plain flipper and it's 4g--HOWEVER, I think it is run by the Android os. But one of their most popular is/are the Kyocera Dura xv and Dura xe, and I believe that ONE of those just runs on a proprietary Kyocera os.. and then the other runs on Android.. both 4g I believe.. Anyway, I've been researching 4g dumb phones for the past couple weeks, and I have found 5 or 6 of 'em.. Here are some: Kyocera Cadence Kyocera Dura xv/xe LG Exalt Alcatel Flip/Go Flip ZTE Cymbal Pantech Breeze

[@tenshib5951]

Hope this helps a little.. These things really ARE tough to find! I'd like to find a flip phone with: 1)4g 2)Push to Talk 3)a decent camera/camcorder 4)a decent display 5)wireless capability such as blue tooth (for music mainly) 6)long battery life (usually that's a given) 7)there was something else that's NOT coming to mind! The Kyocera Cadence does most of these and more, except PTT and the camera.. it takes horrible pictures, haha! [=

[@bajan256]

Hey. Here in the Caribbean a lot of people used a phone called STK R451. It’s a dumb 4G phone. It’s cheap and works on LTE. The entire STK line is not bad. Maybe you can look into it and give a review. Cheers!

[@lizardslipper]

say... What if I'm not super bothered by Google having my stuff? I'm part of that generation that was grown used to it but I want to not have social media apps, but just be able to text, call, yknow, the works. Would that 4G nokia work simply for that?

[@MarkitoJanus]

There is also the Punkt. MP02. It runs on an extremly stripped down Android 8 secured by Blackberry without any Google services.

[@PaulKhoe]

How can we be sure it is not collecting data?

[@darrellknox6435]

Thanks Scott appreciate your research very much..!

[@Growmap]

CELL PHONEs and CELL PLANS Info from my research: Top contenders: Mint (need GSM phone) $53.17 for 3 months - takes PayPal Or Red Pocket (says you need GSM 4G LTE speed - but I have a 3g Nokia 6267 GSM flip phone announced June 2007 successfully running on their service. Bought it on eBay for under $40. But can't access the internet as back then, the carrier has to send an activation to the phone and Red Pocket techs didn't know what I was talking about. Does calls and texts only.) $60 for 360 days. Or Jethro $15/mo - takes PayPal (need GSM phone 3G ok for now GSM phones use SIM cards while older CDMA phones do not. Newer CDMA phones have SIM card, but they aren't used the same and won't work in another device without activating. LTE requires SIM card. 5 different sizes of SIM cards. Unlocked phones are typically geared for either GSM networks, like AT&T and T-Mobile, or CDMA networks, like Verizon and Sprint. Some phones can run on both, but you should be aware that CDMA-only devices will not operate on Mint's network (or on that of any other GSM carrier, for that matter). stores.ebay.com/Red-Pocket-Store#section-plans $5/mo paid annually $60 www.ebay.com/itm/132288143818 facebook.com/redpocketmobile/ facebook.com/pg/jethroseniorcellphone/about/?ref=page_internal Senior phone GSM? SC330? www.ebay.com/itm/Mobile-Sim-Card-Starter-Kit-Unlimited-Talk-Text-Data-Plan-Phone-Cards-Prepaid/163090710299 Mint Mobile takes PayPal

[@tag3026]

This maybe a stupid question but. Does rooting a smart phone and then being able to switch off start on boot, tracking, ads and so on provide a bit of a solution? Any body know?

[@ScottiesTech]

You'd still have to effectively block Google's "Play" services and prevent the phoning home... IOW, you'd have to know what you're doing. If you install CyanogenMod/LineageOS instead, but then install all of Google's services, you're not safer than before. As far as I know, anyway...

[@ibizenco]

I still have my old Nokia 7060. It might be interesting to see if it still works (battery??).

[@freecatbeme]

Hi ! good info. do you know about LGNV3 ? I still have mine. do not want smart phone until absolutely necessary...thank you.

[@seanzappulla71]

I haven’t herd about Telstra shutting down their 3G 850 MHz network. Telstra has been using the 850 MHz band since analog cell phone days. I have been using Telstra for years here in Australia. I’m going to ask some questions about the 3G 850 network. I’m using the 4G network 700 MHz, 1800 GHz, 2600 GHz network most of the time. I rearly use the 3G 850 much these days

[@AntonioBarba_TheKaneB]

I've had a Nokia 8110, basically an early adopter. It was so full of bugs and slow, and crappy battery that I gave up after 10 days and returned it to the seller. Now I'm using a Nokia 3310 dual sim 2G version (2017 model) and it's much more stable and the battery lasts a long time. The extra features of the 8110 were tempting but they were so poorly implemented that it didn't matter in the end. So now I have this Nokia as my main phone and my old iPhone 7 as a backup (I turn it on everyday basically just to check whatsapp). Oh, I live in Italy and the GSM network is still supported by most providers here. I would probably switch to something 4G in the future, maybe the 8110 again if they fixed all the bugs in the meantime, or maybe some 3310 4G model if they make one for Italy

[@alexkunz3882]

I have been doing research on basic phones and found the Sonim XP5s. It is a dumb phone, very durable, water proof and long lasting battery. It also appears to support 4G networks. On Verizon(United States) it is $288, but since it is durable and has 4G, it could last you a long time. It is designed for those who work hard labor. Looking on the Verizon website, it appears as though smartphones have become cheaper than most basic phones. Trying to eliminate the distractions that the smart phone creates.

[@-Atmos1]

what do you think of the ; " Verykool Vortex RS90 " phone ? it's got the lowest S.A.R. & radiation ratings

[@DNMEBOY]

All of the 2g, 3g mentions are regarding your data connection. Why does that matter when the point of a dumb phone is to disconnect? If your dumb phone has a cdma radio then it will work on a cdma network, if it's a GSM phone then it works on a GSM network. It's much easier than you are making it sound. If a phone doeant support 3g it will revert to whatever speed the radio supports but that's only a concern if you want to be online which goes against having a dumb phone to avoid tracking. Cdma phones work on cdma networks such as sprint and Verizon. GSM phones work with at&t, and t mobile and whatever other networks there are. If it's an unlocked phone it will work with any carrier that supports the type of phone you bought, cdma or GSM.

[@scarletxoxo6757]

I am hoping you can help me out I am in Canada, I am trying to get a KiaOS phone that does GPS and works on 4G. i am looking at the Cat B35 and the Nokia tough. I have contacted the companies directly and KiaOS and no one is giving me a straight answer. I also can't sort out if they will be able to be charged with North American voltage of 110 not 220 as in the EU/UK. I am quite confused! I bought a litephone2 but its crazy expensive! I want to return it I have not opened it. I don't know what the directions would be like it but thats kinda important for me. Also if I am going camping or something I need to be able to check emails occasionally. So i think the KiaOS is the better system for me, but I am quite worried about my privacy and the google assistant. Wondering if you can help me! Do you know if the Tough of B35 will work in Canada? Do you know what type of charger it uses?

[@DivergentDroid]

I think it's pretty cool that you are able to use a dumbphone. I use a free US Government cell phone from the Lifeline program. Sadly, they don't accept dumbphones. I use it sparingly. I haven't got around to it yet but my model is rootable so I can change the OS and not use Google. I know they record everything. I don't ever say or type anything over this phone I wouldn't say in a church.

[@riverdeep399]

We have a BT Open Reach station and a roof of 5G antennas across the road from my daughters primary school. :( You do more research than anyone I've ever come across! :)

[@leecourt8509]

Wow, well researched. Thank you!

[@VinylToVideo]

I currently own no working cell phone (nor land line for that matter) and have no plans on changing this situation.

[@newkie2008]

What about the Nokia smartphones from back in the day, like the symbian phones or even the xpressmusic ones?

[@yevrahhipstar3902]

I got the Nokia 8110 4G because it's a 4G dumbphone that can't be bum-dialled. I've turned off the GPS in the settings. Is this a meaningful action? Is there more (or anything) I can do to pull the wool over the Googly-eyes ?

[@andykent364]

i still use my original 3310,,,,works fine and my 402 with changable front cover .....

[@jcramond73]

The flavours that Scottie talks about, (for Australia): 2G: 900/1800. 3G: 900, 2100 MHz with 42Mbps data (HSPA+) . 4G: Band 3, Band 7, Band 28 with 150Mbps downlink.

[@mrtorpedor]

Don't buy smart TV either, it's even worst, buy non-smart and make it as smart as you please with a RasPi that you completely own and control. :)

[@VinylToVideo]

I walked through Best Buy a few weeks ago. On the entire floor there was ONE TV that was NOT a "smart TV" and it had the shittiest picture. Guess I'm stuck repairing my old TV for the rest of my life.

[@darrenlomax1283]

The problem with a dumbphone is no secure messaging. We all need to kickstart a dumbphone with support for proton mail and Signal.

[@Mindplay591]

Signal is not secure

[@darrenlomax1283]

@@Mindplay591 its the same technology as WhatsApp isn't it? Military grade. Steve Griffith's of Security Now says its secure.

[@Mindplay591]

Darren Lomax If you cant make your server and client for that app, its not secure. Also whatsapp says its encrypted but do you really believe that? If something happens, the goverment have rights to read whatsapp messages. Whatsapp grants it.

[@gilcraftsource]

No message you send over a provider is secure, none... Like not even an "I" , every messaging on anything over WiFi or a provider is unsecure

[@Countravendark]

So actually we are forced to buy a smartphone if you want to have a good working mobile phone?

[@brpadington]

I miss my Nokia 3390 Gold. Anyone remember those? They were built like tanks and the battery lasted for a week.

[@seanzappulla71]

2G has been switched off here in Australia.

[@patsycav]

I have a landline, but my children, who are now adults, insist on texting and never call me on the landline, unless they can't reach me when I have my cell phone off. It annoys them though, when my cell is off. But they don't call me on it. they just keep texting. I have been on the cell phone so much lately, as I have four daughters, my eyes are begging for mercy. I just want to sleep and dream ...it's so much easier than being awake. I have so much more freedom in my dreams...

[@nicolasgarneau7381]

I may be a little late looking the date of the video but what about Sonim XP5s phone? They support LTE

[@zbarczy]

Hey, how about the "old" Nokia Symbian phones, any of them? They were (and still are, actually) quite powerful, could do a tad more than just calls and messages, but because the operating system was Symbian, absolutely invisible to Google. Right? :) For instance Nokia N8, E70, E90, E7 etc.

[@eetunimee3883]

I still use my Nokia N8 as my daily driver...Great 12 Mp camera...Usb-otg...Hdmi and av-out...Fm radio transmitter...No Spyware....Beat that if You can !...Even have a 43Mp N808 in the draw wating for a rainy day.... And a dozen other Nokia phones as "work phones"... N5800.5230...etc I will be using Them as long as they work..!

[@robertallard7611]

Hi mate, I'm currently looking for a UK phone that only has texting, calling and whatsapp. Do you know of any such phones? Thanks

[@bjornsahlin]

What's the status on non-Google 4G dumbphones today?

[@ScottiesTech]

Well, it turns out the status is pretty good! See my latest vid: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXSVZpZ9hc6lq7s

[@nicegy0197]

According to Verizon's website they offer 4 dumbphones that, according to their respective product pages, are 4G compatible.

[@rollacoastaride1937]

two yogurt cartons and a piece of string,,,,,,,,,,,smoke signals,,,,,,,,beating drums

[@Alex-gu5ei]

So the cat b30 has internet so basically is still going to be trackable and subject to Google data hauls.... Why did you opt for that one and not the Nokia 3310?

[@ScottiesTech]

The data dumps are a "feature" of Android. No Android, no tracking (of that particular type). Neither the B30 nor the 3310 use Android. Both are internet-capable I think, but essentially useless for that kind of thing due to the tiny screens and crappy web browsers.

[@terracethornhill]

It's not really the smartphone that's the problem, it's the data plan. Switch to talk and text and you still get to take advantage of the other useful things your smartphone can do that a dumb phone can't, like turn by turn navigation (with an app like Maps.me which doesn't need data). As a bonus, you don't have to buy anything to do it.

[@Corialtavi]

After several nights searching for a 4G feature phone with just voice, text, e-mail & and possibly but not necessarily a Camera I came to the same conclusion as you...It's hard to find one that's not lacking in some way. I was close to buying the Nokia 8110 but reviews of the OS put me off. I'm pretty disappointed that none of the smaller Chinese manufacturers have not jumped on the bandwagon. The only one I've seen who has is XIOMI with their QIN phone and up to yet seems they are not quite hitting the buttons for me either.

[@StoicaNicusor]

MYRIA MY9073

[@Corialtavi]

@@StoicaNicusor No Video reviews, not on Amazon Uk or .Com as says in where to buy, just the Romanian website. I'd need to know more before deciding.

[@blueovalboy]

For a different and expensive alternative, the Punkt MP02 is 4G. But also $350.