Choosing your First Freestyle Skateboard | Single Kick vs. Double Kick

[@JuanBrolo]

Absolutely love the videos man. I just started skating again after a 17 year break lol. Just trying to get back into it and teach my kids and we are binge watching everything on KZbin keep it up!!

[@guyblissettamado593]

Same here! lol Have a nice comjng back into the little board

[@SkateboardEnjoyer]

Love this ! Every board has it's own bonuses, one of the biggest things for me coming back to skateboarding after 3 years was trying more and learning more about opening my mind to trying these different things. In freestyle this is huge ! There are so many options longer or shorter boards length, wider thinner different wheelbases on the same width. There is so much to play with and the only way to find out is to try it because while a boards dimensions may be technically correct for you it may not be the best fit or what you feel comfortable on or enjoy. Have fun and keep playing ! Stay rad Mike and all 🙏

[@valefore82]

i kind of disagree that double kicks make Caspers and Pogo tricks harder. at least in my own experience. yes, ill agree that when learning them for the first time, i found a single kick was a little easier. For me, once i'd learned them consistently on a single kick, i switched to double kick boards and they got even easier. i think for Pogos, the kicktail/nose being offset from the centre when standing straight up, helps force the board into the leg/foot that is standing on the truck hanger, making it so i don't have to pinch as hard with the other foot or work as hard to keep it in place. easier to balance, i can basically stand in pogo with one foot as well as i could while pinching with the other foot and hopping around, as well. It does make the upper truck hanger bounce on my leg a little harder though, lol. For Caspers, ill concede that the angle that the back foot sits at, is a little trickier if your ankle strength isn't up to snuff, but i find that the angle helps me pull them up to the proper height much easier, and helps hold my weight centred in the right place to lock the hook in, with my front foot. Currently riding the Plant Pogo Bixby Double, i love this shape so much, the asymmetrical tail/nose makes it easier to do some tricks off of either side, give me lots of options when forming combos. i will say that i Casper & Truckstand easier off of the nose of this shape though. Of course this is all my personal subjective experience, this all could just be because of the way i hold my weight when doing these tricks, or how my ankles prefer to be positioned when locking in tight. 🤷‍♂ but i figured i'd share my 2 cents about it 👍

[@random40s]

Nice video, pretty comprehensive about the main differences of board design. I kinda would like to see a video about how to mod a basic "popcicle" for more freestyle. Like choosing wheels (NOT changing truck size) , spacers, skid plates, grab rails, rip tape mods, etc. To make a regular street board a sort of hybrid for freestyle. I really liked the video. This was one om my faves. More info, less random.. 😂 Thanks for that.

[@mike_osterman1]

Thanks for the input. Tough video to make but I’ll consider it. Modding requires either updating your deck and wheels or trucks and wheels. I’ve made videos in the past about adding freestyle wheels and skids to a street board. Perhaps a more in depth wheels and trucks video will help you find the ideal setup.

[@random40s]

@@mike_osterman1 Thanks man. I'm sure a lot of people would be very interested to see information like that. Not everyone can get new deck and wheels, or wheels, and trucks. But anything to get a bit closer to a hybrid setup I'm sure people will be interested in.

[@gruzzly9349]

@@mike_osterman1 Not gonna lie when I took a hiatus from skating like seven years ago I stocked up on extra decks because I was street skater and had an affinity for being stupid and trying big things. I know I would benefit from it because of all my extra popcicle decks I don't want to get rid of. The biggest issue I have is I used to be one of those dudes who just slapped whatever trucks, wheels etc on my deck. I legit feel like I've been a freestyle skater at heart ever since I started but back then, in like highschool, people thought freestyle was kinda lame so it through me off. Wish I wouldn't have went with the flow of peoples opinions.

[@darkXwolf17-UD]

@@mike_osterman1 next double kick deck you make try mellowing the double kicks a bit (that way you can do classic freestyle tricks and modern freestyle tricks)

[@darkXwolf17-UD]

Also another thing to consider is length and width for example do you like smaller skinny decks like the rodney mullen mutt & Kevin harris beaver deck, or do u want something a tiny bit bigger like a 7.4in wide deck like the mullen chess deck or Denny Riordon men in the head deck & if you don’t like that try the per welinder deck at 7.25 inches or madrid decks at 7.5inches and at the widest Reggie Barns deck at 7.437inch. In terms of length you have 26.5inch to 26inch or 28inch and at a push 27.625in. As far as wheel base you have at the smallest 10.325inch. and at the widest 12.625inch. Double kicks have a variety of lengths of 28inch 7.25inch (like the classic freestyle decks)and as long as 8.45.inch and withs of 7.25inch to 8.31inch

[@guyblissettamado593]

Great video, very instructive without being boring or "overfunny". Thanks Mike

[@FuquanJohns]

You’ve super inspired me to skate freestyle now !

[@JaceMcIntyre]

I've been skating the spoon nose from Waltz for a couple weeks now and can honestly say it is the best board I've ever skated!! I love Waltz and what they're doing for the sport. Can't wait to grow as a freestyle skater and grow in the community. Much love from your boy jace...

[@starlifeforce]

Bro props for talking and demoing. You're something else for sure.

[@anushup1333]

Great with the board as always 🔥👌

[@kapture520]

I am currently a beginner riding a 7.75 street deck and after watching you and Sarah Matott I'm inspired to try freestyle and am looking to get a freestyle deck to start learning! At 40+ years old and still learning to ollie, all the footwork stuff looks like so much fun and a great way to learn board control. Would you suggest the 7.4 or 7.6 deck? I have pretty small feet (6.5 us women's). Love watching all your videos!

[@hattuli]

I'm broke so I just bought a street board because I got a good deal. I might upgrade it with some freestyle wheels etc. next month. edit. Even though I have a street board now I still find this info very useful. Love your content! Keep up the good work, Mike Osterman!

[@patrickthies8683]

As a street skater my journey was kinda the same. Smaller popsicle board with skidplates than freestyle wheels (huuuuge difference) and than making the switch to a freestyle deck. Money saving trick could be to try to stick to the same deck size to swap out hardware if possible

[@Alexey-L]

Great! Now I understand, Street starts with an ollie, and Freestyle with a pogo.

[@mike_osterman1]

Watch my trick tips - footwork is the start to freestyle

[@Alexey-L]

@@mike_osterman1 Yes, thanks Mike! I'm already watching and learning how to walk the dog between ollie stabilization. I haven't decided yet, but I'm 42 and freestyle is getting a little closer to me)

[@dfpguitar]

Its interesting that you called the bigger "kick" the tail. Ive always been puzzled by how or when the nose of a skateboard ended up with the longest and steepest kick.

[@mikehemens9359]

So rad!

[@keishlacruz249]

Thanks double kick is what I'm looking to get

[@yesmaybe630]

Enjoyable video! Your boy from North Carolina had a slight upturn on his decomposed deck. Boy did I love the nose on that deck. Look into that type of style. It might be a good choice on your next production of single kick decks. Who knows?

[@mike_osterman1]

Thank you!

[@darkXwolf17-UD]

Hey Mike love your vids and the stuff you do with braille skateboards. Ps have you tried mellowing out the kicks 9! Your double kick slightly so that it’s both suited for traditional freestyle and rolling freestyle tricks. As well as street

[@vg4917]

i am actually getting a freestyle as a cruiser board... i use pennys and also 10inch shaped but dont always want to take the 10 inch as rain etc and weight... i am not afraid of the flat deck as a penny and OG powell are flat too and love them actually wanted a bit bigger space then a penny hence, who knows i may end up trying some of those crazy maneuevers lol

[@keithrandt7]

I skate 8.25 but I actually like my freestyle board being skinnier and single kick.

[@mike_osterman1]

Interesting!

[@darkXwolf17-UD]

@@mike_osterman1I ride a 7.13 inches wide deck that’s 26.13 inches long. Wheelbase of 10.625” & the nose and tail are 5.25”. My old model was similar but it was 26.6 inches long

[@PyroLanceMoto]

Great video. But I'm still confused on how to choose the deck size. What should I take into consideration when choosing between the 7.4, 7.6. and 8?? If it helps, I currently ride an 8" street board and I'm thinking of buying the Huntington deck to learn more freestyle, Thanks!

[@patrickthies8683]

I would try out the 8" since you can transfer your hardware on it and are somewhat comfortable on it already. Getting used to another shape and dimensions at the same time. No matter what you choose give yourself quit some time on it before making a judgment on them.

[@mike_osterman1]

Working on follow up videos to answer these questions

[@Pc3p0]

Could you still Ollie and or any tricks that need a nose?

[@riverswing2502]

Have any of you seen the movie gleaming the cube? It’s kinda a skateboard movie but also a crime movie, if you haven’t seen it check it out

[@jacklouerskates]

Single kick all day tho I do want to try double kicks again

[@mike_osterman1]

Heck yeah, Jack!

[@zzzdeprivedgang9723]

@@mike_osterman1 can you still do freestyle with a street board?

[@cv6531]

@@zzzdeprivedgang9723 yeah just not as easily.

[@zzzdeprivedgang9723]

@@cv6531 can u customize it to freestyle board?

[@cv6531]

@@zzzdeprivedgang9723 I'm almost positive I've seen Mike post a video related to the topic. Its the equivalent of doing street tricks on a longboard; possible, but you're making it unnecessarily difficult on yourself. Go out and skate man, try it out for yourself.

[@Junkremoval-hvac]

Let’s get a Video about the bixby and yuta double kicks but 1 is not symmetrical and one is. Can we hear the differences in symmetrical and unsymmetrical double kicks, I understand single kick double kick don’t understand double kick symmetrical double kick unsymmetrical. Thanks

[@mike_osterman1]

Great idea! I’ll start planning one ASAP

[@brianropel]

Please make a no kick board. I learned kick flips on essential a 0 kick board because all I had was a “The Firm” board where both the nose and tail were gone. But that board made learning free style tricks so easy. It really would be heaven sent

[@mike_osterman1]

Interesting idea!

[@markuspadilla5730]

You need a traditional board if you want to land lazy Bigspins

[@ericlowery2162]

1:30 and handstands 😅

[@mike_osterman1]

Lol! I had an “upside down” tricks clip but it was so bad that I cut it out. My wrists are still too destroyed

[@ericlowery2162]

@@mike_osterman1 lol. Great video though. Explains some strong points of single kicks well

[@ShawnxEdge]

A double kick freestyle deck looks like the 7.5 and 7.75 popsicles that were popular in the late 90’s for technical street just mellower.

[@mike_osterman1]

That’s a bit of an oversimplification. Think loser kick angles, narrower wheel bases (and the distance between kicks to suit those wheelbases), mellower concave, and different concave profiles to better suit freestyle tricks. Many of us were cutting down 90s popsicle blanks in the 90’s and 00’s to jury rig freestyle boards. Honestly, they sucked 😂 so we started making our own molds and profiles

[@mike_osterman1]

*lower kick angles

[@XLM-Band]

i am currently using a 7" board because i just got back into skating, my feet are way bigger now and I'm a size 14 US men's should i get an 8.5"? pls help!

[@EnDependance123]

When i started skating they didnt even make double kicks.

[@NinaMietze171]

Hey! Total beginner here.. I am trying to look into freestyle boards, but all I can find are "cruisers." Is it the same? I am in Thailand, so maybe that is also why? Can someone help me? :D

[@23Cjay]

Well same problem no one selling free style decks and other parts in here at Philippines only long board and street skateboards

[@carolynian]

Yeah, they're a different type. If you're outside of the US, Europe, or Japan, it's pretty hard to get freestyle stuff. 😥

[@FelixDalgleish]

Hi

[@UTCSB]

Pov: you thought the bixby was double kick the whole time but iss whateva

[@mike_osterman1]

Pov: the Bixby is a double kick? Huh?

[@nikoldol]

you look like in 2017 tbh i thought that this is an older video

[@mike_osterman1]

Yes, great

[@que6025]

Double kick cuz purrdy mermaid

[@mike_osterman1]

Dude. Same.

[@jonathanximenes1979]

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