Chris R. - AA Speaker - AA Slogans: Do they help or hurt?

[@montanadad2223]

Chris was used by God to help save my life. In and out of AA for 7 years and now finally got a Sponsor, got through the steps and now I'm tearing it up!!!

[@mikeplease1770]

Michael, I'm a recovered alcoholic, I've been on the wrong track thanks to GOD using Chris and the steps!!

[@greeenpro2009]

🔥keep carrying the message man! Ppl need to hear and do the work of the real program in the book. I’m in Texas at a facility that brings all us men through the steps in 90 days. Myers R. Is the sponsor of the owner/program director here. I’ve been here almost 4 months and have had a spiritual awakening as the result of the steps. God is good! Congratulations to you

[@fklwiseman]

Thank God!! Welcome to the fellowship of the spirit ❤

[@CandiceKreidel]

❤❤❤yyaayyy

[@CandiceKreidel]

​@greeenpro2009 praise God 🙏 hopefully one day we will work together 💕

[@roberthern3057]

Today is my 60th day of sobriety. I am 48 years old an alcoholic addict and have been since I was 18. This is my second longest stint of sobriety since I was 18. The other was in 2011 and was 120 days.. I loved this message so much. It completely makes sense to me and I believe it would encourage more people to Keep coming back. I am so Grateful for Bill and Dr Bob. I am starting to work the 12 steps and I have hope that I can live soberly for the rest of my life. The Faith I have in God, which I renewed, 62 days ago, lead me to Inpatient treatment and now to the seat in AA. I am so excited for my future and Love my relationship with my Higher Power, which is God. Thank you for making these talks available to us all!

[@dylanmcquade3486]

Hope you still sober Robert. AA, Big Book , Sposorship straight out of Big Book and working with others saved my life. Stay involved. God works

[@briandavitt9640]

❤

[@jsmith108]

How u doin?

[@Controllerbreaker]

I farted in my hand ​@@jsmith108

[@eshjane]

I went to AA to stop drinking and it worked!! I now have 24 years of sobriety and I so happy to be alive! I thank God for his grace!!!

[@RaymondRAYCE]

@Predestination good question... haha

[@billleemaster9603]

There is a significant difference between multiple years of sobriety and multiple years of recovery.

[@mikeconner3748]

Spent 30 days at Origins Recovery under the tutelage of Chris Raymer, he's the real deal and a life changer. Gob Bless Chris Raymer.

[@HJANDF081399]

I was a few years sober when I first heard this 'tape'; changed my Recovery and my path in AA. Chris tells the truth. We desperately need more of the truth in AA. Thank you, Chris. See you in Tampa, August 2023. I'll be celebrating 24 years in Recovery that weekend! 🙏

[@bacobill]

This talk may have just kept my butt in AA.. I have been burning out on the 'therapy sessions' and was becoming convinced that I was not tolerant enough.. bull.. Chris R has given me permission to have the thoughts I've been having during meetings lately.. I pray that AA can hold the line over time.. It's as simple as a simple book :)

[@stevovondivo2326]

The BB is pretty specific about who can stay sober attending meetings and who can't. In fact meetings are barely mentioned if not as a place for newcomers to come and find out what AA's solution is. Our third tradition reads "Our membership ought to include all who suffer from alcoholism. Hence we may refuse none who wish to recover. Nor ought A.A. membership ever depend upon money or conformity. Any two or three alcoholics gathered together for sobriety may call themselves an A.A. group, provided that, as a group, they have no other affiliation". When the tossup is between getting a heavy drinker's back up about spieling from the floor when there's newcomers in the room and delivering THIS message to the alcoholic who still suffers, between the heavy drinker leaving and the newcomer staying I know who I'll sleep ok that night knowing I'll see them next week. Personally there's too much at stake in AA to consider heavy drinkers' delicate feelings in making that call.

[@maggiethomas18]

It totally changed my Outlook on the program too! I love living in solution!

[@lukebexnjesssmummy611]

@@stevovondivo2326 💯% this

[@stevovondivo2326]

@@lukebexnjesssmummy611 Alone we do it - but never alone 🍀

[@billiestyles1706]

Meetings alone near killed me 🙏🙏🏽

[@tkervinph]

You’ve changed my perspective on meetings completely, and how to choose a sponsor and working the steps

[@desertrain4026]

This Man is Speaking the truth! 55 days sonar and my Sponcer still has me on the 1st step! WTF? I’m fighting for my life and I have to start serving time in under two months! At this rate I’ll be looking at maybe being at step two! Before I go off to be incarcerated and even though it’s not a long time I need to be spiritually fit! I wish I could find a man like this to be my sponsor!

[@sick86stang]

This is very common where I live as well they drag these steps out my first sponcer had me on step 3 at almost six months and I relapsed..God bless chris I have learned alot from him I get my guys through the steps quickly..I have talked to chris on the phone he is the real deal very cool guy

[@slayr0n410]

Find big book step study meetings, might have a better experience. There’s no time frame on the steps, anyone that says that doesn’t really understand what’s going on.

[@Mclarke252007]

Man I love Chris Raymer and his passion for this program that saved my life. He is even more awesome to meet in person. I can't wait to be at his workshop on sponsorship tomorrow!!

[@WeAreAwakeningAsOne]

I am willing to take anyone through the book like was done with me. If you cant find someone, we can find a way virtual. What a beautiful life. 7 years doing this, God put a new person in my life to take my through the book. I had 4 years sober an had a sponsor tell me i was too sick to help others. I went back out and almost died. Thank God for people who have had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps. May God bless you all.

[@BonnieHelms]

I am a Al anon would you take me through the steps?

[@randyreinwald4581]

Thanks Chris R for keeping it laser guided.

[@jeanetteallison2857]

Slogan almost killed me. They are not AA or the Big Book nor the Solution. Thank God for Chris R!!!!

[@jaydub5728]

Wow, this was great. Got me back to the truth of my recovery. Thank you for the reminder, edification, and direction!

[@TheDailyCoinorg]

Hi my name is Rory and I'm a recovered alcoholic - Thank you Chris R for letting me know that it's okay to be recovered and not recovering. More than 18 years clean and sober the drink problem left me a long, long, long time ago. Recovered, no longer in recovery. - praise God and let the name of Jesus Christ ring loud and clear at every AA meeting.

[@billiestyles1706]

Of Jesus? We’re not allied with any sect, denomination! Spirit of the universe. Thank you for tolerance .

[@ericf323232]

"Do you think Bill W wrote that because he was a having a bad day that day" So funny 😂

[@nikic2478]

I have shared this with so many people!!! Seriously probably one of my favorite leads I have EVER listened to!!!

[@kristieingland5315]

Come to Southwest KS Area conference!!! We need a reboot out here in these parts. Treatment center here in town and the groups wanna accept EVERYONE 😡😡😡😡

[@HarmonousHappenings101]

Been sober 2 yrs and totally contemplating leaving AA. I was leaving the meetings so depressed. They sucked every bit of God right out of me!! I couldnt figure out how someone who has been sober 30 yrs is sitting there complaining about being cut off in traffic!! I was told it takes some people longer than others to get a new pair of glasses or they are a dry drunk. I thought if this is the spiritual awakening Im suppose to have you can keep it!! A fellow member sober 25 yrs was complaining about the meeting not being run right. She tried to explain it to me but I couldnt conceptualize it because I had never seen a meeting run that way. This was never taught to me and I have yet to work the steps all the way through with a sponsor because they take me on all these different paths. My current sponsor is having me work Alanon with her. She is 40 yrs sober and I dont have a single member of any of my family that is an alcoholic/addict. Every sponsor Ive tried said have you got the first 3 steps? I said I think so, but how do I know. They said oh you will know. Studying metaphysics and spirituality on my own has taught me what they do mean and how screamingly important to understand completely!! I have had my spiritual awakening by studying spirituality,meditating, and self reflection. I have heard maybe 5 people share in a meeting that clearly had an awakening. Being an observer and no longer a participant its clear 95% are still asleep!! I have been sober 2 yrs by the grace of God so I havent left but I was thinking about it seriously last night!! This morning this video pops up and I though l'll give it a try. If that isnt God working his magic I dont know what is!! I have been given the piece I have been saying was missing all along EMPOWERMENT THROUGH GOD!!. I will do my part to bring AA back to its true purpose!! Thank you Chris you may have just saved my life!!

[@sebastianvanleeuwen3897]

Please stay.. the fellowship needs you!

[@balmaceda01]

Can you give me a aha moment book,literature in metaphysics that just made it click for you?

[@Irrelevant530]

God saved your life.

[@Takeahnase.]

G O D: Grow Or Die

[@kristieingland5315]

You have helped save my life and lit a fire in me again for AA. I was 7 years sober and walked away from AA beciz the group I was in was very sick and a war story group ans I was tired of it... and literally drove around for 2 hours contemplating suicide.. my mother in law was on her death bed and I went insane again. Never wanted to drink ... I finally turned back to the program and entered a group that is by the book... and I am so free today. Just celebrated 9 years. Thank you for all you do for AA

[@jondavidivey]

Been too long since I last listened to this. This was how I heard him 16 years ago and haven't had a drink since.

[@LexMcSwing]

This was precisely what I needed. Thank you for providing it and thank God for guiding me here 🙏

[@SuperR160]

Work the steps and find power, then help others!!! One message, one solution- 12 step programme of action!! Thanks Chris!!! I'm with you all the way...Happy, Joyous and Free (at last)

[@loriogilvie7969]

Chris, my favorite ever. Like you were reading words from my heart.

[@OriginalLHB]

I have lived in Texas for 26 years and know someone who Chris has sponsored and I could kick his ass in any bicycle race period. I rebelled against his approach to AA for a good 22 years until I had to acknowledge that he was absolutely right. His sponsees walk the walk and talk the talk no matter what. He is absolutely Real AA and I can't believe how much time I wasted arguing against. AA would have a 100% sucess rate if Chris and his people were running the program. Work The Steps as soon as you can start your car. Serve. And try to enjoy your drinking after you have had that authentic spiritual experience. If you are an alcoholic, it can't be done. Only Kip C. is in the same class.

[@philanddeb818]

My prayers are with Chris and the rest of us to carry God's message of bringing life and hope back into these rooms. I hope when God takes Chris home, that Chris will get to see how many lives he saved by sharing this message. Keep the faith. Thank you OdomtologyBooks for sharing this great tape.

[@AzzBoi81]

Amen !! Brother bang on the only thing that worked for me after 20 years is a reliance on god.. a reliance that removed my obsession to use.. this gave me inspiration to not make friends in the fellowship but get people well by carrying the message with a blue book.. I was r.i.d with the fellowship because of the coffee shop recovery that went on, while people where dropping like flies.. such a shame every meeting needs a Chris Rayner you are a living legend my friend 🙏🏻❤️❤️

[@VirginiaKirby-i7q]

Wow what an inspirational m!message. All 12 step programs need to get back to taking new comers thru the steps. Hopefully I can do my part to bring this message of hope to them. I am doing this with my sponsees. Blessings to your work ,Chris. God is EVERYTHING.❤

[@NeilD1]

It's increasingly difficult for alcoholics to identify in Alcoholics Anonymous. If this is the case, and youre tired of feeling like an outlier in your own fellowship, our book suggests we can go create the fellowship we crave. You wont regret it if you stick it out.

[@hunnybadger_dsm1816]

Man, there's a few of the meetings I go to that need to hear this.

[@bridgetlee257]

this guy is a fuckin' genius right on point. so many recovery communities are depriving the newcomers this guy will be controversial to those people who are not willing to carry the true message of alcoholics anonymous. this is a call out to us members of AA to maintain our responsibility to keep our meetings powerful and to the point to carry the message to the next suffering alcoholic. wonderful speaker

[@TomorrowsChild77]

Open rebuke is better than secret love. Faithful are the wounds of a friend.... Proverbs 27:5-6

[@billiestyles1706]

We’re not allied with any sect, denomination, what’s a proverb? IF a Muslim quotes the Koran- out cry

[@j0sh707]

If you haven't, read the 1940 preamble, we start every meeting with it. It's a powerful message.

[@karenomalley3591]

VERY ENCOURAGING

[@williambass7215]

Love Chris raymer he is a amazing man he saved me and alot of other people he's my hero he is one in a million

[@billleemaster9603]

Mickey Bush, Scott Lee, Peter Marinelli, Keith Lewis, Angie Peters, Francine Ward, Mark Huston, Katie Parker, Larry Thomas and Joe McQuany & Charlie Parmlee so carry solid messages.

[@OriginalLHB]

Chris, you underestimate your legacy. AA cannot be in the toilet as long as people like you are in the program. It took me decades. but I was wrong. AA has worked miracles in my life, but I want more. You tell how. I went on my share of wet 12th step calls but I couldn't give what I didn't have. This shit is the Truth!

[@WeAreAwakeningAsOne]

I wish you could come to Saint john NB Canada. You are my first speaker and my favorite. Thank you for enchancing my sobriety

[@eduardobentz4145]

Thanks for your service!! What freedom I found when I finally realized I was Beyond Human Aide and that God could and would If He were sought! Thanks for staying true to our primary purpose!!

[@spoonerpurple]

not every meeting is for everyone ..for me ..just for me ..i dont agree with everything he has to say here ..sometimes i want to hear the BS someone is going through ..its helps to know we all share similar trials and it incourages the newcomer to feel blended and belonging ..its a good thing in beginners meetings ..old timer meetings people naturally will keep the discussions to the topic ..but the new person is full of troubles and needs to get it out sometimes aa is all he has sometimes people cant afford counseling ..i agree dont steal the floor and time limits can be set ..but not everyone does not want tohear what the person says ..because its all related or indirectly related but related just the same ..if a person is going to have to be afraid of everything they say they might not come back ..................let em talk ...

[@Irishmule169]

Jennie Spooner Tell them to get a sponsor...that’s what a sponsor is for...ear bending,period..... The people always whining in mtgs are the same ones every time....same person still full of shit crying in the mtg that the world is against them... The solution is the best topic for a mtg.... sorry ,but Chris is right,100%.....

[@soccerdrinking]

How do you listen to him speak and then say what you said. You are the real issue of the water down solution in the rooms of AA. If you want therapy go to therapy if you need to bitch do it outside of the meeting. Our you that selfish of a person that you need to complain about your day in a meeting. When the message needs to be carried and has to be carried to save the lives of many. How dare you Jennie you are one selfish person and you are part of the reason that so many people our die inside and outside of our meetings. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! STOP KILLING PEOPLE WITH YOUR BULLSHIT and SELFISHNESS

[@courtneyshae309]

I'm sorry . . . Do I hear an NA member talking????

[@goodieface7955]

I agree with Chris. I don’t understand why you would go to AA and not work the 12 steps and buy a big book.

[@Takeahnase.]

9 days sober. Showed up early to a meeting. Asked if I could work as a volunteer emptying trash, making coffee, anything needed at the front desk. Guy is about to hand me an application then asks how much time I had. After I told him just a week he said he’d rather wait before allowing me to volunteer. It felt wrong. I was humiliated. I didn’t go drink, but it sure made me resent him and think twice about going to another meeting.

[@CandiceKreidel]

Thank you for sharing ❤ 🙏🙏🙏 I really need prayer so that I would better be able to serve 😅 please pray for me 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 get on now❤

[@aubreyharris4265]

It's sad that people go listen to Chris r because he is on fire and full of passion but when they do hear the message they dont place it in their lives I bet.

[@kriyapada]

12 minutes in and I love this guy…

[@SoNowIKnow]

Chris Raymer saved my life.

[@niallwilson3787]

Love chris r shares no bullshit war stories or group therapy he talks about the power of god and the solution he carries the message not the wreckage❤

[@derWolfemann]

Really what I needed to hear..

[@rayizm3]

💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@kriyapada]

Loved it❣️🙏

[@roxwoos]

every meeting should listen to Chris. ..like coffee gatherings most of them..

[@stevovondivo2326]

Julie Mccormick Meetings with no Steps is just coffee and bullshit 🙏

[@lobo1281]

I wish that this guy, his sponsor and others like them would go to narcotics anonymous and make IT work and stay there!

[@Eaglefan4ever]

This talk just got me out of AA. Problem drinkers and alcoholics are apples and oranges. Some control vs absolutely no control. Right on. Look at your control of alcohol. You will know. How wonderful!!! 😁

[@briandavitt9640]

In the new York area these days there called primary purpose groups . there great

[@p.michaellong9773]

Anyone know of any Portland Oregon meetings/groups that are Big Book friendly, discussing the messages of the Book rather than hearing group members share about the neighbor's cat.

[@p.michaellong9773]

Three so far!

[@theequatableskeptic8148]

I almost left AA, I let false gods such as work, money, self will etc get in the way. I left meetings and stopped working my program. Thank GOD I had the gift of desperation dry* and surrendered. I’m a real alcoholic and I need to be connected to God 24/7 or I am going to drink. Half measures availed me NOTHING but almost a relapse and who knows.

[@calebhobson3051]

too true for some people its scary inspiring stuff.

[@TheExtremetree]

AA should be a pep rally!

[@ger3825]

The Steps done thoroughly!

[@ethelbentancourt2233]

He speaks volumes about us old timer I pray he touch base with me I and another old timer said this year's ago women are leaving or dying out be conservative if he wants he speaks the truth!!! After 37 yrs the women are few the old timers are sick just like he said soooooo many have become to freaking comfortable thank you for sharing again hope to meet you soon!!! Try to get my freaking last name off this sight thepery works I started going 2 yrs ago by Grace and peace love my sponsorship were of family and friends groups color size and age doesn't matter broke or Rich if you are a person of my sort you need and want what God gives you to keep you sober through the good the bad and the ugly!! The big Book is the beginning of the journey working with others I just had to mail for materials from New York because they're none available at some meetings and I live in California so really what's up with that!??? Enough of me Love you More 🤗🤗😘

[@kristieingland5315]

I am the only woman in my group.. there us another group in my town that have a few 2-3 women, but it's a therapy/war story meeting. Being a woman in AA can be tough.

[@CandiceKreidel]

I hope God grants me power eventually ❤and i can be faithful with it

[@nancytaylor2440]

How can I get Him to come to Bradenton Fl

[@lindoneideflowers9969]

This is amazing please read this and come to visit us in utah st George

[@doc2590]

It makes me sick when, aa members share and say, they are not God bother's or big book bashers, and people laugh, like that's a good thing. God and the book saved my life, and continue to do so, and is the only thing that had the power to stop me drinking and keep me stopped.

[@donnabrownbowles3525]

LMAO* `~•° exactly! What, you mean there's no safe spaces in AA? $hit, I'm going back to college! 😜😂😝😅😊

[@oompaloompadoompa-de-doo3614]

They help once you understand them firsthand.

[@marcbythesea7]

" Big Book" of AA - Forward to the 2nd edition (page xx in the 4th edition) top paragraph. There are clear cut reasons for the success rate of the earliest guys( & it was not 100%) who started this, (Bill W did not solely write the book) who were all pretty much 'last gaspers' & the 'stats' thrown around today however accurate are also for a reason. Despite this man's bluster, from what I heard, he IS on point. Many come into the rooms are not alkie/addict & dont need Spiritual reliance to live

[@rodneyjohnson7327]

Chris said damn near 100%. Not 100% success rates in early AA recovery. Cleveland Ohio had a documented 93% success rate around 1940 - 41. Akron was about 80%.

[@Mrbrocky1199]

True story my sponsor and dear friend was untreated alcoholic for 10 months wanted to kill hisself and this guy truth and passion about the fellowships as and steps and program and spiritual program to contact god . God bless chris r x

[@mattwilcox1275]

Great

[@gwhat3922]

Life is NOT perfect but, if you can identify then you CAN recover ... Solution: 48:37 - 59:00

[@ethelbentancourt2233]

What town are you in

[@kappi246]

wow good stuff

[@OdomtologyBooks]

Is it Bob B. from Minnesota?

[@jenferish]

Hi, Im looking for a speaker meeting by Bobby Bethea. If anyone can help me. He was an amazing man.

[@SuperR160]

thump thump! (me to) :-)

[@Denise0752]

What are 'desire chips'?

[@robertpb2579]

Its a chip you get if its your first meeting ever or if you have been out drinking (relapsed and returned to AA) ..

[@richardminerjr7371]

We refer to them as the surrender chip. The White chip

[@bryanr.3241]

Where do I find these workshops on the East Coast ? I'm sifting through mtgs to find this kind of belief. I hate hearing whiners and how someone's day was.

[@waskyper8]

Bryan Resch Brian- If you r serious about finding out more about BB meetings, Sponsorship or stuff like Chris talks about- respond to this reply

[@bryanr.3241]

Yes , and I would love to find out where and when these big book workshops take place. I don't know who does them these days. Thank you

[@waskyper8]

don't know where they r on East Coast but.. if u want to know where to get hooked up on Skype - try the Primary Purpose group out of Dallas

[@bryanr.3241]

Ok , thanks....there is a guy named Chris Brennan from New Jersey that is big into the big book. I did a Big Book Step Study but the way they do steps 1,2&3 are empty steps to me. My instructions were to highlight pages 1-63 and they we got together and underlined and put asterisk next to certain parts but never went over what we underlined. I didn't get what I think I should out of 1 , 2 and 3. Hope I explained it so you could understand . Have a great day.

[@waskyper8]

Really I can only share my experience but...if u get a hold of Primary Purpose people in Dallas- & state that u want to talk w/ someone who does the work like Chris R. is talking about - they can connect u w/ someone - or Chris' Bro, Myers, who is a part of their scene & he can refer u to someone on the East coast. ok? Take care & let me know u got this & it made sense.

[@theforeverpuddle8754]

I get what he is saying and I agree that AA should not be a therapy session. You shouldn't be talking about getting cut off in traffic or whatever menial bullshit there is, but talking about how we react to the things in life is relevant. You don't need god (big or little g) to recover from addiction. Just because I'm not religious or spiritual does NOT mean I cannot recover from alcoholism/addiction. To believe that, is ignorant. You can tell me "Well then AA is not for you." I don't agree. I don't want to change AA, it's fine just the way it is, but belief in god is not a requirement and should not be. I appreciate his passion.

[@rodneyjohnson7327]

Then why go to AA? Start your own agnostic or atheist group of alcohol or drug abusers somewhere. You are trying to change AA if you say you don't need God. That is the a primary point of AA. God is mentioned in 7 of the 12 steps. He is mentioned as God over 160 times in the Big Book. If you count the number of times HE is referred to as a simile, metaphor or synonym of Gid He is mentioned over 400 times in the Big Book. For example:God of light, Creator, new Employer, Heavenly Father, Maker, etc... so please don't water down once great program and make it generic

[@mariebarry3798]

Amazing I stopped going myself because of the moaning

[@DEE-ee4jw]

I hope you came back, if you wanted to. So many good meetings around.

[@chrissyp5849]

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