Christians vs Sex

I'm very sniffly today, so let's take a moment to relax with a retro Christian TV segment on the horrors of sex.
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[@richardlyth]

"I have aids - visual aids. And I also have crabs - these crabsticks, a delicious and nutritious snack. I also have VD - Video Discs, on sale next to the crabstick table. Finally, I have the clap, for which I blame my husband."

[@TalentedLMT]

😂😂😂😂funniest comment on here!!

[@BigArt1970]

Brilliant! 😂

[@LuvtheJEm]

Her husband didn't make her wear that too tight button down, it's not his fault.

[@johnmcclure40]

I got the clap once. I was on stage and the audience applauded.

[@shred5]

Yeah I thought you could only see herpes.. you learn something new everyday!

[@thomasprislacjr.4063]

The aids joke would have been funnier if we didn't know for sure that she personally viewed it as "God's punishment for the gays."

[@Ghoulicus]

It wasn't terribly funny back when South Park did it, so why would she think it would be funny when she said it (back when she did)?

[@mikey-wl2jt]

still wouldn't have been funny

[@NikkiBudders]

@@Ghoulicus This woman might keel over if she ever glimpsed an episode of South Park

[@wesbeuning1733]

​@@Ghoulicusah, the Jared episode.

[@anthonycastro2146]

Sex in Christian circles is less about sexuality and more about control of the individual. Especially women. Its a pernicious form of abuse that attacks at a very deep level of the psyche, and its constant because we are sexual beings, we have sex, we feel sexual desire constantly so its a constant shame, repression, self-fighting and perpetuation of abuse through belief. Very violent form of abuse.

[@AndroidHarris]

Yeah I went through that. Its terrible.

[@thetypingape2073]

Same.

[@voiceofthelegion578]

It also effects us sex repulsed asexuals. We're taught that when we reach adolescence we're all going to be struggling with "sexual sin" when that doesn't happen for you you start to think something must be wrong you. And then there's the fact that you're SUPPOSED to have sex when you're married and your husband will be expecting it. Which is even more horrifying.

[@BLZ231]

It might be slightly worse for women, but I can tell you from experience it does hurt men too. Religion is like being in an abusive relationship, except the abuser doesn’t actually exist, you’ve just been told he does. Edit: I would advise against scrolling any further into this thread, it becomes a shit show. Also, I was thinking of the Abrahamic religions, some of the other ones are mostly harmless.

[@desperadox7565]

@@voiceofthelegion578 It seems very likely that this caused your sex repulsion in the first place. Do you really just want to accept this?

[@ravenesperanza]

The AIDS joke is revolting. Absolutely revolting. Trivializing suffering. So hilarious.

[@elsam57]

Totally agree. Its not funny

[@disgoop]

50 million dead and christians helped it happen

[@swankidelic]

I didn't laugh because it's funny, I laughed because it's shocking that she would think it's appropriate. Not "haha that was clever" more like "haha what the fuck Shannon"

[@billiemcmichael6646]

You know what's worse than that joke? The Holocaust.

[@Futuristic271]

The delivery is really good, the content is awful. I feel she could be pretty funny if she used better material

[@ricoaioa]

"Cheer myself up with... the horrors of sex." What a phrase Emma 😂

[@zoe_w_draws]

This quote has Cards Against Humanity vibes

[@blahanger4304]

It's funny cause sex and horror go so well togehter :)

[@johankaewberg8162]

@@blahanger4304They can do…

[@erikkennedy8725]

Every time I hear someone telling me about the "lures of homosexuality", I gotta kind of wonder if they're projecting. They need to accept themselves and come out of the closet.

[@johnclary729]

Yep, they're bi-curious. Or maybe not even curious any more, they're Bi-Knowledgeable.

[@-.-.__..]

I used to talk about this exact thing and about how gay was a sin but it turns out I’m bi so ur probably right abt the projection

[@glitterberserker1029]

Generally I don't like the "homophobes are all closeted" but there it's a particular brand of homophobe that does make you wonder.

[@dorkdaily]

The "I have aids....visual aides" is such a Michael Scott moment

[@myeyeswentdeaf6213]

😂 Nailed it!

[@jbill190]

And then we watch her read from a piece of paper! So clearly she was lying so she could make a tasteless joke about a deadly disease. For shame, Shannon!

[@left_handed_jedi]

Shipping Jesus gives a whole new meaning to the phrase... "Get behind me Satan..." LOL

[@catborg780]

I bet Satan's actually a bottom but he tops because that's what everyone expects him to do

[@kyleepratt]

And he's saying that to Peter, so there's roleplay involved too

[@CatDaddyGuitar]

​@@kyleepratt😂😂

[@sherlockwho5714]

I told my So this and I have been banned from talking to their family 😂

[@jonc4403]

I mean, the "jesus fucking christ" animated gif exists.

[@punkrockllama]

It is weird being a guy who got the typical "girls" treatment on abstinence. Like I wasn't allowed to go to school dances because my dad thought the only reason anyone would go is to find someone to hook up with. My brother got in trouble for basically having a girlfriend - it wasn't the having but he was never allowed to actually go see her. The twisted ironic part is being socially stunted because I was discouraged from dating in my teens but as soon as I was in my twenties I was expected to start having grandkids. When, in my late twenties, my dad started getting pushy about it I said "you have three boys who have trouble with relationships, I blame the parents." He did not like that - but he stopped asking.

[@NikkiBudders]

This 100%. The fact that on what feels like a dime they'll turn around on you like "you're an adult now, not that I've ever treated you like one, go find a man sent by god and make me grandkids". Suddenly sex for procreation is an open and encouraged topic, they'll give you every remedy and trick in the book, and the entire time any complaints of pain are just met with "it will get better over time" as if the vaginismus wasn't specifically caused by religious trauma. Ahhhh.

[@zenkim6709]

This is the reality of building a sex ed program based entirely on the preachings of a group of hysterical, religiously repressed virgins & neo-Puritan conservatives ...instead of a panel of child psychologists, gynecologists & other credentialed health professionals working off a body of scientific, documented research on human sexuality & child development. One group builds a sex ed program based on reality. The other group ... not so much.

[@GizaDee]

Yuup feel that. I wasn't allowed to even think about being in a relationship until I was about 19. Was barely allowed to have friends of the opposite sex. Then suddenly my mom was on me about grand kids and genuinely mad at me for not dating immediately. I guess she wanted me to do what my super religious roommates did in college and get engaged to someone I'd known for 3 months. Haha nope.

[@insertianameia2224]

Many of her points can be refuted by teaching young girls to have the confidence to say "no" and to teach boys that just because theyre areoused by something, doesnt mean they have to act on it.

[@coffeebux]

A new Christian suddenly agrees the Bible needs context and maybe shouldn't be taken literally with Matthew 18:9 New Living Translation (NLT) - And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away.

[@noellalexander9527]

i think what you're referring to is Self Respect. Which is forbidden in Christian circles.

[@llynxfyremusic]

A lot of Christian circles lack that kind of emotional maturity unfortunately.

[@archiejohnston498]

The "Jesus and Mo" website has a hilarious T-shirt of burka clad women with the text:"Thank you for not provoking my uncontrollable list".

[@NikkiBudders]

@@archiejohnston498 Gotta love teaching men that lust is uncontrollable so they're not truly responsible for their actions. What could go wrong XD

[@joachimschoder]

Abstinence only "education" is leading to abortions by not preparing their children for the reality of sex, leading to unwanted pregnancies. Shaming single mothers is doing the rest. Comprehensive sex education and easy access to birth control results in a drop in abortions. So if abortion is actually your number one priority you have to support both.

[@axel1957ll]

You are right

[@matildarose]

But according to my local parental rights group, sex educational makes teenagers think about the sex, which means they will do the sex, which is why the trusted parental method of 'refusing to talk about anything' means no sex happens.

[@axel1957ll]

@@matildarose speaking from personal experience my parents never talked about sex with me. All I did when I was teenager was look at bra straps and wonder what a breast felt like. We’re they heavy? How soft were they? By the way I grew up in Texas, the same state Shannon is from.

[@RandomDragonEXE]

@matildarose how do you know no sex happens, people can and will have sex regardless of what you tell them. So it's better to have proper sex education so they can use birth control to its fullest. To help reduce abortion. Not trying to start anything, but this is just so you know.

[@axel1957ll]

@@RandomDragonEXE I agree. I had no sex education when I was a teen. Believe me, a proper sex education is what everyone should, what shannon is telling people is not sex education. It is cover everything up.

[@SmilingHorror_8D]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="558">9:18</a> Ace Jesus? “Sure, he was tempted in every way BUT sexually.” Literally just Ace.

[@facthunt2facthunt245]

I always thought that was the case.

[@NikkiBudders]

The fact that she admits whole heartedly that Jesus was hella bangable made me laugh so hard.

[@SandraLugn-nc1rk]

Yes thats a extremely resnible interpretation off the story of Jesus in the bible. /Cristian swedish bi-cis-woman Ps: that abstinens women is not resnible at all.

[@terrell28374]

That woman was definitely a "hookup girl" back in her younger days. Her message is fueled by embarrassment and regret.

[@jaredrobinson7071]

I'm not all that. I'm just the bag of chips.

[@ikhidealigbeh514]

A thousand years from now I want the only thing future historians have of our civilization to be this sentence, chiseled into marble.

[@GlassSpiider]

Chips are massively popular- congrats!

[@111olbap]

@@ikhidealigbeh514 I want to see what historians will say about us in 3000 years. "We've found charred organic residue inside this glass cylinder, suggesting that it was used in some sort of ritual. It says "420" on the side which we believe was a reference to their one true god, the flying spaghetti monster. Here, in this other exhibit, we see this perfectly preserved bag made of excited hydrocarbons. Inside are strange orange cylindrical objects which some of our scientists believe were once edible. The cheetah on the bag is believed to have been a demi-god of some sort. Perhaps the orange cylinders were eaten as a way of honoring it"

[@lonestar_iconoclast]

I love Fritos®. Are you filled with Fritos®?

[@MrDarkAvitar]

I am all that, and a can of Pringles!

[@lindatheheathen]

I *ALSO* have ice cream-based trauma that requires consuming massive amounts of frozen confections.

[@voiceofthelegion578]

My strange addiction is the show for you then.

[@irrelevant_noob]

3:42

[@lindatheheathen]

@@irrelevant_noob🍨😊

[@douglasrasmussen480]

I am happy you have had this epiphany. Eating too much ice cream and ices will make you frigid!

[@shassett79]

I'm really impressed by the range of a woman who can crack a joke about AIDS before pivoting to warn everyone about the existential dangers of "tonsil hockey."

[@thylacoleonkennedy7]

And here I was thinking every young woman's battle was with The Witch-King Of Angmar

[@koshgam]

Christian + "You don't need that special someone to complete you " = omnimax irony

[@daydays12]

So true!

[@NikkiBudders]

Wasn't that someone supposed to be god? XD

[@wesslingbaker]

Just FYI Emma, there was a lot of this purity culture stuff going around for men at the same time - “Every Man’s Battle” by Stephen Arterburn was published at the exact same time as Shannon’s “Every Woman’s Battle” (Aug 2009). I went through some of those small group books studies, all emphasizing abstinence, saving yourself for your wife, “bouncing your eyes” (looking quickly away from marginally sexual images or displays). Really leaned heavily into the “all viewing of any kind of porn (including erotica) = addiction” angle. It was definitely aimed at both men and women.

[@jonathon5075]

+1 to purity culture content. It is so I engrained that you even people outside Christianity are influenced

[@_allegra]

The good thing about a Scooby Doo dress is that when you take it off, there's a haunted theme park owner under it.

[@iko7417]

A flower came off.... You were deflowered...

[@dewardroy6531]

Hilarious, right!🤣

[@Darisiabgal7573]

Oh damn you beat me to the joke.🤣I was going to say you bent so far over you deflowered yourself.

[@RickReasonnz]

ohhhhhHHHHH that got me good! Belly rumble activated!

[@NikkiBudders]

You've gotta love the "women are soiled objects" analogies. Chewed gum, old tape, a worn out shoe, the list goes on.

[@probablythedm1669]

@@NikkiBudders yeah... not gross and dehumanizing at all! 🤣

[@FowlsNest]

"Hey *Jasper*!" My dumb ass: "YES??"

[@jasperjames5442]

every fuckin time as well 😭

[@SimonJM]

I just about spat my drink out when you announced that Ms Ethridge was a LAY counselor - who better than someone like her to preach about not getting laid! 🤣

[@JebeckyGranjola]

Minds think alike

[@axel1957ll]

Speaking of bra straps, during Covid lockdown there were a shortage of face masks. I saw on KZbin how you could make a face mask from a women’s bra. The hardest thing I ever have done was buy a bra at Walmart. I felt at any moment someone would start yelling PERVERT at me. I made the face mask and I loved it. I still have it. I want to be buried wearing the bra mask.

[@janmulcahy1458]

😂😂😂

[@bookshelfhoney]

Please submit this poem somewhere and get it published. Just format it Like this To seem more artsy

[@raptorcrasherinc.9823]

That is fucking hilarious

[@RickReasonnz]

You know, to this day, I still keep a wide berth around the bra areas of department stores. There's really no reason for it, but there's always the itch that I'm not supposed to be there. Weird hang up I guess.

[@phileas007]

Wait, does 1 bra make you only a single mask or a pair?

[@darrenm.7980]

"Christians VS Sex" could also imply Christians are literally fighting sex which i think is a very funny concept

[@eric2500]

I want to see illustrations, don't you?

[@vforwombat9915]

spoilers: sex wins.

[@jeffidyle4957]

It would end up more like wrestling than UFC.

[@EddieNoon]

First I imagines them fighting stuff like succubi, but then I imagined them fighting to very concept of sex itself, which is far more funny

[@extazy9944]

i mean they do

[@fogcat5]

"I'll tell you... it's because I have AIDS... visual aids to help show you" um... ok.

[@valolafson6035]

I will not recover from that part.

[@FawnieFox]

I almost choked. lol. Can’t believe she said that.

[@eric2500]

She does not look old enough to be a Boomer and we are the last generation to have Visual Aids before personal computers took over. Just sayin as they say.

[@axel1957ll]

@@eric2500I remember when power 5 points were new

[@PurpleAmharicCoffee]

I didn’t have any worries about abstinence, turns out I was simply asexual.

[@happytofu5]

Same an I thought everyone else just could not control themselves enough... 😂

[@FawnieFox]

Do you have any clothes with sexually suggestive phrases? Like “flirty?” “I have a shirt that says “Satan is my Daddy.” Does that count?”

[@irrelevant_noob]

7:24

[@anotherone5235]

"Somebody who is all that and a back of chips" to me means they're a f'ing snack... so... yeah... *clears throat*

[@trtlgrdl]

Nicely done.

[@raptorcrasherinc.9823]

Makes sense to me

[@valolafson6035]

Is someone looking through the gaps in my buttons? I don't know. Why are they standing that close to me?

[@irrelevant_noob]

Public transport, theatre/opera/cinema, etc... plenty of options.

[@sisuguillam5109]

​@@irrelevant_noobEh? Do those force you to look? What the frick do you do at the opera, the thearter, the cinema?

[@irrelevant_noob]

@@sisuguillam5109 how did "forcing" me to look come up? It was just about standing close enough to be ABLE to.

[@raptorcrasherinc.9823]

RIGHT???

[@Averagewannabe94]

Siiiiiiigh. I remember asking mom to buy me every young woman's battle in the church bookstore. I was like 10... they always made it sound so important and I was scared of doing something wrong. I HATE this woman and her books. She damaged my young mind nearly beyond repair. The church damaged me so badly, I'm in my 30s still trying to unlearn the toxic psychological manipulation. I had to write my future husband a letter promising him my virginity....I was 11. I wish I could go back and take that young me's hand and run as fast as I can away from that building. So many stories...so much trauma. I don't think I'll ever forgive the church.

[@johnbaustian5180]

We'll just not talk about the "disciple that Jesus loved. "

[@DaveLH]

I guess it is kind of the taboo of all taboos -- Even the movie _Dogma_ wasn't willing to go there. (Bethany is descended from one of Jesus' brothers, rather than Jesus himself, which would have made more sense plotwise.)

[@johnclary729]

Just going to say this but abstinence-only sex-ed correlates to high rates of teen and out-of-wedlock pregnancy. Actually higher than no sex ed.

[@JenniferElizabeth311]

I was super evangelical Christian in high school, and I owned Every Woman's Battle and used it like a guidebook. Thankfully, that book has been destroyed and thrown out since then (I'm almost 40).

[@Ulthek]

Despite knowing it’s the title of the book, somehow in my head you owning ‘every woman’s battle’ was clearly boasting some form of martial prowess

[@Rob-bn9ib]

Hey! I had the companion version, "Every Young Man's Battle". I'm 35, and I have no idea what happened to that stupid book.

[@ninaschust3694]

I genuinely don't support book burning, but some are just vile. I remember a linguist who researched on books from N💩zis for his PhD. He didn't know what to do with them after his graduation, so he created Origami. I thought that was a good idea.

[@JenniferElizabeth311]

@ninaschust3694 That book was so harmful - purity culture is the most toxic theology. That - and books like that - messed me up more than I am willing to say on here, but others like April Ajoy talks about her and her partner's experiences. I'm still working through the trauma, and probably always will be to an extent.

[@TahirK1189]

When I first glanced at the title I misread it and thought it said Christmas vs Sex

[@eric2500]

Oh Christmas wins that round. You are exhausted.

[@charleslipscomb2567]

Whoopi Goldberg put it best: "You can't stop people from having sex, it feels good! And if it doesn't, get yourself another partner!"

[@ghostfrequencies]

i knew so many girls, growing up in the church, who had such a hard time with being shamed because they had larger chests. they were treated awfully through no fault of their own, because their bodies were just perceived as inherently more sexual. my sister was taken aside by the youth pastor's wife and lectured because she thought she was giving him "impure" thoughts. she was twelve at the time

[@harrisonpeterson3733]

Absolutely disgusting!

[@angelwarren1994]

Gots this is giving me trama flashbacks. I wore a c cup bra size in middle school. And I was shut shamed for wearing normal tee shirts all the way though middle school.

[@beneverett2392]

John: "I only washed Jesus' feet so I could look up his skirt"

[@CoraFrances]

I ordered one of your "Hello Lovely People " shirts last month. I work in a care facility for older adults with mental health issues. I wore the shirt to work one day and the residents really got a kick out of it. I like to see them smile as many of them had been previously unhoused and also don't have families in their lives for a variety of reasons. So now the phrase "hello Lovely people" is my default greeting to the residents when I start my shift, even when I'm not wearing the shirt. 😊 Thank you for your great content, Emma.

[@vanadyan1674]

I was raised Roman Catholic and the intensity of their organizational hatred of basic bodily functions was the beginning of my deconstruction.

[@auxlen]

Listen, sometimes SEX is horrifying...only if it's done right and everyone lets loose...(and consents obvs)

[@connla]

has hayfever...wears crown of flowers. You are your own worst enemy

[@memi510]

I think they are fake

[@connla]

@@memi510 hahaha I know it's a joke at my friend's expense as I've followed the hayfever saga all week

[@memi510]

@connla I hope they feel better

[@connla]

@@memi510 well she was well enough to make this video and god damn me at the end of it and is currently streaming :D

[@oz9884]

"all that and a bag of chips" was a popular expression in the mid nineties USA. also, "Homey don't play that" is a reference to Homey D Clown, a Damon Wayans character from the comedy skit show, "In Living Color" from the same time period. Homey D Clown was hilarious, as very early Tim Carrey's character, Fire Marshall Bill. Basically, she dated her video by trying to use the hippest slang in a very exact moment of mid-90's culture.

[@jamesrule1338]

Thank you. I was trying to remember what "Homey don't play that" was from. Man, In Living Color. That takes me back...

[@oz9884]

@@jamesrule1338 "triple snap in a Z formation!"

[@hollyhock3848]

The thing is the video had to be filmed in 2004 or after. Because they were advertising Every Young Women’s Battle and that book was published in 04.

[@oz9884]

@@hollyhock3848 nice catch there... Weird how she chose to use old phrases dated from a very specific time period in American pop culture.

[@elpis_ezechiel]

- “Jesus nailing you” but literally - I'm dying, help. LMAO

[@dananichols349]

To be honest, believing everyone else thinks and feels and wants the same things we do ourselves is a common human failing.

[@hermunkulus]

I like how she felt the need to add "visual aides." Reminds me of that one South Park episode.

[@BeatrixKiddo198]

Omg I literally was thinking the same thing 😅

[@connla]

Christians now able to tell jokes at the level of a 20 year old south park episode. Dear lord they are evolving

[@BuddyBouncer]

@@connla Holy shit, I didn't realize that was a season 6 episode. I'm getting old as hell.

[@connla]

@@BuddyBouncer yeah when I originally wrote the post I was like '10 year old south park episode' actually wait...I think it was a lot fucking longer then that. Oh fuck the whole Jared child porn thing happened almost 20 years ago so it has to be older then that.

[@chrisgutteridge]

I'm amazed Emma resisted making the "Oops, I've been deflowered" joke.

[@operationgoldfish8331]

I'm not sure that she does actually care that much. Having spent a long time in Christian circles, there is a huge amount of power and self-justification that can be gleaned by being someone who tells people what to do. Christianity has been full of these mini-dictatorships right from the start. You even find them in the bible. Plus, she's obviously making a mint out of this. Becoming one of these little demigods is considered a perfectly legitimate career direction in many places. I was in South Carolina in the late 2000s and, as we were driving along the road, I noticed a pile of at least ten long, white pointy things lying by the roadside. I finally worked out what they were, because we'd seen a fair few in use on our visit. They were mass-produced steeples for putting on churches. Think about it; in that part of America half the population seems to want to start off their own church and get reaping in the tithes from the other half - to the extent that mass-production of church steeples is lucrative enough to become a business in itself. In America at least, greed is considered a virtue rather than a sin.

[@DaddyMoogie]

polygamy is not the same thing as polyamory/non-monogamy. bit of a nit pick, but its one that really annoys me. Not just men want to have more than one partner.

[@TheToothlessPhilosopher]

The bulk of poly relationships I'm aware of are Female with more than one Male.

[@irrelevant_noob]

@Susieshoosie wdym? The term seems general enough... "When a man is married to more than one wife at the same time, it is called polygyny. When a woman is married to more than one husband at the same time, it is called polyandry."

[@caseycrowe3805]

Yeah, non-monogamy is the umbrella term. Both polygamy and polyamory fall under that umbrella. Polygamy specifically refers to marriage, i.e. having more than one spouse. Polyamory doesn’t necessarily involve marriage at all.

[@BaddeGrasse]

Thanks for standing up for this! Polygamy =/= polygyny Polygamy isnt just a man having many wives, its dictation that women are subordinate objects to men. Polygamists are polygynists, polyamourists can be polygynists, polygamists are not polyamorous.

[@irrelevant_noob]

@@BaddeGrasse obviously it's "not a man having many wives" -- since it's ANY PERSON having multiple (legal) spouses. How is that not polyamorous tho? o.O

[@L_D80]

Making young people uneasy, and even afraid of sex, then offering courses and materials to help remove this fear later in life, and all for a healthy fee $$$ Now that’s a great business model

[@annakateSD]

Holy shit, Emma, you made my whole week bringing the fan fic thing into this conversation. If at least one christian discovers AO3 thanks to you, your job is done 🤣

[@johnferguson8794]

Heard Jesus touched his toes and lost his flower in a very similar way.....call it "toga play"

[@MareaRayneOleander]

Peppermint and chamomile steeped with 45 mililiters (approx: 3 tablespoons) of honey per 360 mililiters (approx: 12 fl oz) boiling water. I just use store bought tea bags for the peppermint and chamomile. Works pretty quickly for me with my allergies. Consume while still hot (but not burning) for best effect. 2-4 times per day clears me up in 2-3 days.

[@pencildragon1961]

I think that the narrative of abstinence to ecstasy raises unreasonable expectations. Sex is a skill and one gets better over time with practice. If your expecting your first time to be this transformative event and it's actually awkward and lacking the full potential of pleasure, it might turn you off sex forever. Feel better, Emma

[@realdreamerschangetheworld7470]

Ah yes… a battle which has raged since time immemorial.

[@BraniusBalki]

A kiss is not a contract, but it's very nice.

[@AllenMorris3]

That was my Grandfather's favorite joke. I have aid, hearing aids! Of course he was born in 1909, and was telling this joke in the 1990s.

[@creature4169]

"Abstinence makes the parts grow fondled" which I borrowed from the old adage "Absence makes the heart grow fonder"

[@aubreyleonae4108]

😎 Best thing I've read this month. I will use it liberally and at every opportunity. 😁🤗

[@aubreyleonae4108]

🤣😃😄 Damn it I can't stop laughing !

[@creature4169]

@@aubreyleonae4108 you're welcome 🤗

[@Mandolord85]

I grew up in the Christian faith and they love telling you not to have sex. It messed me up a little. I’m a guy, but it did cause problems with my view of sex. Like feeling guilt over a natural process is weird. In high school a church came and picked me to be on the abstinence team lol. IDK what that is supposed to mean, but most of the kids were very sexually active (the lady’s daughter was on the team as well and she was definitely not abstinent). What always got me is they shame you for having sex, but as soon as there is a pregnancy they’re even happier. I’ve seen young kids get all sorts of money and support for having a child out of wedlock. Not that i care, just kind of weird they shame people for sex, yet it’s all okay bc they’re having a kid. Anyways keep up the good work with your videos. These people trying to push Christian morality and beliefs on people who don’t ask for it need to be called out. I live in a conservative area and most of the people are a far cry form being moral in any form. So they have no business telling the rest of us what to do.

[@roguekitten9285]

It's people with her way of thinking that had me think something was wrong with me in my teen years into early adulthood. It took a lot to break away from that mindset and come to terms that I was lied to and my sexual urges were normal.

[@0815UserII]

Something I've noticed with some religious and conservative people is that they seem to agree with progressive people on a lot of the issues, but are unwilling or unable to look beyond the 'approved' structures and systems for solutions. Instead, they condemn the very idea that there could be other options besides just accepting the status quo, because that's what all the other religious and conservative people do.

[@happytofu5]

They either are crabs in a bucket, not allowing others to have a better live, or live outside the bucket and prefer everyone else in.

[@user-ey2xp2ge9y]

She correct about fantasies coming from trauma. That's actually pretty deep. BUT SEX ISN'T TRAUMATIC UNLESS SOMEONE MAKES IT THAT WAY.

[@wild_lee_coyote]

I have a friend where both waited till marriage to have sex. It was horrible for both of them and it took years before they divorced. Sex was the primary reason it ended and ended badly. It was specifically because of teachings like this that ruined that relationship and caused trauma for years after it ended. The guy refused to use protection because of Christian beliefs and actually ended up getting HIV and giving it to his second wife. It astounds me how abstinence only sex Ed can ruin peoples lives.

[@NikkiBudders]

Not to mention the psychological issues teaching "sex is scary, sex is a sin" causes to a woman (specifically) which can make sex significantly more painful and even impossible. Being married doesn't get rid of decades of psychological tension surrounding a topic. Vaginismus is very real and it fucking sucks.

[@oofcloof]

I'm sorry, but the data really doesn't support that claim whatsoever. Women who marry as virgins only have a 6% chance of getting divorced later down the line, compared to a 20% chance with women with one prior sexual partner, going up to 35% with women who have had 10+ partners. Say what you will about these specific teachings by this woman, but I'll assure you that teaching abstinence before marriage is demonstrably the best way to go. I'd wager that the main problem wasn't abstinence alone, but your friend may have been pressured by society to "settle down" at a later age. People aren't expected to get married from 19-21 years old anymore, we're encouraged to wait longer for who knows what reason. I could be wrong but that's just my thought

[@DarkFleurofIra]

@@oofcloof _aaaannnnnddd_ what's the proof on these claims? Sounds like there are some caveats not being mentioned Also teaching abstinence only doesn't work, as Mississippi clearly shows. Not to mention it's rather absurd to expect people to be married at 19-21 years old, one can't even legally drink at 19 years yet they're expected to get married? We don't even have stable finances at those ages! Also ya don't know the friend, so maybe stop with the assumptions

[@oofcloof]

@@DarkFleurofIra telling me I’m not backing up my claims (which I can’t do properly because YT shadowbans links in comments) and then saying abstinence doesn’t work and referencing… Mississippi? But to address your point, the study I was referencing was from the Institute for Family Studies, and is widely accepted. And yes, I do think it’s absurd to expect people to get married at 19-21, not because it’s impossible, because it clearly was possible back in the day, but our society has put so much of an emphasis on waiting to start a family, making it difficult for high school grads to get off the ground and make a living wage like they could back in the day, encouraging people to prioritize the corporate life over family, and telling people not to settle down and have the “enjoy life while you still can” type of mentality. It’s a greater societal issue.

[@DarkFleurofIra]

@@oofcloof Institution for Family Studies? The rightwing think tank? Knew it, I wouldn’t trust anything that comes from them. I’m also well aware of the shadow bans (happens to me far too much), so when I ask for proof I just usually expect a name. Again, what’s wrong with waiting? Even if we did make better wages, I feel like there shouldn’t be an expectation for people to rush into marriage

[@kezia8027]

I had a stroke!... of good luck finding this video! I also have actually had 3 strokes, but that part isn't a joke lmao

[@damonhicks969]

Christians - "You don't need that special someone to complete you." Also Christians - "You will never be whole and will burn forever in hell if you don't have Jesus in your life!"

[@N_IRL]

"Silly little guy" is one of the answers I give when people ask my gender.

[@mjrtaurus2714]

Forever going to refer to my favorite coffee cup to a "superior drinking vessel" from now on.

[@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm]

Sex wins that fight.

[@somersetcace1]

I can't even imagine being raised in an atmosphere where even the least of sexual urges are to be repressed, feared, and constantly fought against. Not to mention the belief of some that sex should only be for the purpose of procreation with your spouse, and will even shame taking pleasure in it when you do it `correctly.` The sheer amount of fear and guilt that must produce in a teenager especially, must be unbearable.

[@dewardroy6531]

Are you saying you were never a teenager?

[@somersetcace1]

@@dewardroy6531 No, I'm saying that as a teenager, I was never put under that pressure via indoctrination.

[@facthunt2facthunt245]

What are urges? I only felt indifference.

[@rowanrobbins]

My younger sister has an ice cream related trauma--when she was a child, she ate too many ice cream sandwiches and got sick on them. She didn't go near them for years, and still doesn't care for them! As for the "chips" thing, just give me the chips!

[@trtlgrdl]

"Bag of chips" phrase does come from somewhere.. the 1990's. she brought it with "Homey dont play that", which she stole from In Living Color.. which we should all see every episode of.

[@PretendingToBeCanadian69]

Here in Canada we say RAD a lot...

[@jonathannz10]

Is it from the movie there's something about mary?

[@hugopritchard8455]

They would join the Anti-Sex League of INGSOC of Orwell's 1984.

[@janmiller1591]

I had Christian sex ed as a young teen in the 1970s. I remember being mystified that "petting" was sinful. Those poor doggies!

[@jamesheartney9546]

If petting cute kitties is wrong then I don't want to be right.

[@trentlytle7289]

The Fantasy Fallacy is much different than The Fantasy Phallus.

[@1EDSEL3]

Nothing gets me going like ... tonsil hockey.

[@adamarmfield1069]

there's a youtuber who was mainly endorsing skincare products and dancing provocatively, now she has found jesus and started telling people they shouldn't onanise

[@kittywampus]

that was such a 90's video

[@hollyhock3848]

Typical xtian media at least a decade behind.

[@eric2500]

Love the flower crown! yeah! Ima a hopeless romantic and I will not apologize!

[@annafaulkner9879]

I have a sweater that says “Dungeons and Daddy Issues”, I guess I’m not virtuous

[@johnburn8031]

Well, Jesus was nailed by a Roman soldier! 😁

[@dewardroy6531]

Casca Longinus Rufio, wasn’t it?

[@GnomePickles]

I love the disconnect in these abstinence programs. "Make sure no man sees your body or gets to touch you cause they are unable to stay abstinent if you tempt them. They cannot control themselves! But also remember to submit to them and alsways be submissive to them cause men are natural leaders!" The two diametrically opposed views on my gender makes my head hurt.

[@pleegjepleegje]

A fun and cozy/ hyggelig/ gezellige video again. Thanks Emma! Much love from the other side of the North Sea ❤

[@rumblin_cynth_rampo374]

The only horror of sex I know is not getting any😁

[@dewardroy6531]

Truly horrible!

[@CaraiseLink]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="250">4:10</a> In fairness to Shannon, I can personally confirm that lesbian desires are _very_ alluring~

[@stu1037]

Abstinence Education - when teen moms abstain from high school because they're home taking care of their baby

[@Sage-Thyme]

I'm right there with you Emma, I'm currently redecorating a very warm room, but the window is firmly closed, because of the hateful pollen.

[@dylans0630]

The… Sex Negativity of Christianity has always been a problem for me. How can something wonderful, when between consenting adults, be Evil? Repressing and bottling it up just leads to more negativity and problems. Also, ms Emma, could you please pen and heart my comment? Thank you, I like your content

[@user-ey2xp2ge9y]

Because they look at sex as property, as someone to own.

[@dylans0630]

@@user-ey2xp2ge9y and not in a fun way, I imagine

[@user-ey2xp2ge9y]

@@dylans0630 that depends on the person. I've had lots of fun with some Catholic school girls. :-D

[@axel1957ll]

I feel sorry for the people who follow her advice. I also feel sorry for the people Kent hovind taught high school math and science to

[@Earthling247]

Love you Emma. Keep the videos coming please.❤️

[@The_Hooded_Scribe]

Emma we need that follow up video! Your insights on these topics is one of the few things that keeps me going.

[@sherlockwho5714]

The flowers are taking root in your head People are apparently like vampires just the sight of undergarments and they can't help themselves

[@AirinTov]

Flower crowns 10/10!

[@someonerandom256]

The saying "All that and a bag of chips" was very common in America in the 90s when I was a teen.

[@Terrestrial..1]

That woman is describing how repressed Christians themselves actually behave 'behind closed doors'.

[@Dylanquinn666]

And on the third day, Jesus arose from his goon cave

[@scroogetheprofit2455]

This is bringing up all the PTSD I've been working on after leaving Evangelical Christianity

[@markwilliams2620]

Emma, dahling!!!! You've been off my feed for months. Glad to see you again!

[@Sableagle]

"It's be really great just to have ten minutes alone with him." Oh, Shannon. You poor thing. It's supposed to take ten _hours._

[@erinrising2799]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="480">8:00</a> you've been de-flowered LOL