Christians Who Are NOT Christians?

[@LitForChrist]

YES! We're no better than the swindler, adulterer, etc... as true believers, must take up our cross DAILY

[@MJ-jc4jo]

To follow Christ is to deny thyself continually...not that you don't exist...but you exist for others. This is my understanding to the bearing of our cross.

[@katherinelyn]

Amen. Rest up Corey. Thank you for this timely teaching.

[@kinseycompass]

This is an EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT video!!! My first video that I've EVER seen of you and boy was my heart filled with JOY!! You speak the TRUTH of the WORD & I'm so thankful!! I just subscribed and look forward to seeing your past and new videos to come!! May our precious Lord Jesus richly bless you & your family always, my brother!!✝️💙🙏🕊🙌

[@andrewmccleod7785]

Following Christ by Denying the Self and Taking Up the Cross Verse 24 says, “Then Jesus said to His disciples, If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.” Here the Lord speaks about denying the self. To deny our self is to lose our soul-life, the natural life (v. 25; Luke 9:24). In verse 25 the Lord continues: “For whoever desires to save his soul-life shall lose it; but whoever loses his soul-life for My sake shall find it.” In verses 23 through 25, three things are related to one another: mind, himself, and soul-life. Our mind is the expression of our self, and our self is the embodiment of our soul-life. Our soul-life is embodied in and lived out by our self, and our self is expressed through our mind, our thought, our concept, our opinion. When we set our mind, not on the things of God, but on the things of men, our mind grasps the opportunity to act and express itself. This was what happened to Peter. Hence, the Lord’s following word indicated that he had to deny himself and not save his soul-life, but rather lose it. To lose the soul-life is the reality of denying the self. This is to take up the cross. Actually, in these verses four things are related: Satan, mind, self, and soul-life. This message is concerned mainly with these four things, which begin with the mind and [575] ultimately consummate with Satan. The mind is the expression of the self, and the self is the embodiment of the soul-life. The soul-life is lived out by the self, and the self is expressed through the mind. What the mind thinks or considers is an opinion, idea, or concept. The mind’s opinion, concept, or idea is the expression of the self, the embodiment of the soul-life. The soul-life is embodied in the self, just as the Father is embodied in the Son. The soul-life is like the Father, the self is like the Son, and the mind is like the Spirit. Thus, we have here a trinity of mind, self, and soul-life.

[@Lessiebelle]

This is my verbal, mental, and spiritually abusive husband 😢 Please pray for his salvation.

[@LitForChrist]

This is right on time, help us Holy Spirit🙏🏽

[@laverne.6130]

🙏🏾✝️🙏🏾

[@laverne.6130]

Thanks for clarifying! God Bless.

[@nacahkeliy]

Thank you Corey. I stopped using the word christian a long time ago in my walk but nevertheless, feel your word convicting my heart. If for no one else, this was for me. Thank you again!

[@stevenepstein6454]

You mean to describe yourself?

[@iamiv909]

Get some rest, brother. God bless you with a speedy recovery!

[@carloss4465]

Thank you brother! This gave me some conviction. I need to pray about this.

[@giavonnaramirez]

Thank you, I needed this today. Praise Yahweh.

[@anorabradley1311]

Double Amen to this teaching. Thank you Corey!

[@reginaldozims4704]

Thank you, bro Corey. Most of us are no better than those whose sins have been exposed. Some people's sins go before then, and others, theirs, trail behind

[@BereanFellowship]

Most Christians that say they've accepted Christ have not received him in my experience

[@jeremiahjones4224]

You dont know most Christians, so that's an erroneous statement. Unless a person is openly denying Christ, or you are able continously observe their life, you dont know. Let God be God. He will do the separation my brother.

[@beppiek]

@@jeremiahjones4224 “Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.”-JESUS WHICH ONE ARE YOU YOU BETTER DISCERN WHOS WITH OIL AND WHOS WITHOUT

[@BermudaGrass]

@@jeremiahjones4224 How can the OP’s comment be false when The Word says the road is narrow and few will find it? Doesn’t that mean the possibility most Christians aren’t actually Christians is high? And, if so, that said person’s experience is reflecting God’s Word isn’t returning void?

[@Papaspronator]

@@BermudaGrasscompared to 8 billion people the number of people who claim to be Christians is small so the gate is narrow. Even if all of them were Christians the scripture is true so using that as a support text isn’t a good use of scripture. No one knows how many people are truly saved or can be saved.

[@BermudaGrass]

@@Papaspronator That is true if the support text stands alone in the assertion that most professed Christians aren’t actually legitimate, yes…but it seems to be valid when observed with the totality of the Bible’s warnings to remain sober and alert for: false doctrine, false converts, false teachers, false prophets. As well as the Bible’s commands to be sure we: (1) study to show ourselves _approved_ before God so that we are _unashamed_ at The Day of Judgement, (2) work out our own salvation _with fear & trembling_ , and (3) examine ourselves to see whether we are [ _actually_ ] in the faith. It just seems The Word is conveying to the reader that the probability of someone being converted into the Christian religion is higher than the probability of someone being regenerated by The Holy Spirit. It’s difficult to disagree with the OP.

[@jasonusaf6326]

I am the least of God’s children. I am a wretched man in my flesh. Who will save me from this body of death? My Lord and my God, Jesus Christ!

[@Tony-t5d]

Great teaching!!!...AMEN!!!...

[@jamesturner9822]

This was very helpful thank you for your videos brother

[@reginaldozims4704]

Let me add, hearing about God and Meeting Him, are two different things

[@k.b.edwards7071]

Well said brother thank you, Love you God bless.

[@Raven.Tulips]

Well said! Amen! God sees our hearts. Thank you, Mr. Cory, for your ministry and the work you do here on KZbin. “But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from a sincere faith.” ‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭1‬:‭5‬ ‭🕊️

[@Dinah-v6c]

Christians, everyone is a Christian today.. But, disciples don't talk about people, they encourage people.. although I know what one is saying because it's viewed clearly, it's still not my place to judge anyone.. people are going to lose their holiness and energy by focusing more on judging another than keeping watch and or focus on Jesus..

[@chrisanok9283]

Agreed

[@wrestling4theculture]

​@chrisanok9283 I think people honestly do not know what rightoues judgment is. By bible definition. Rightoues judgment is when you judge the based on the heart and not appearance. Many people are just on the outside looking in and judging by what they see on the outside and how things appear. They will know we are Christians by our love.

[@chrisanok9283]

@@wrestling4theculture righteous judgement is when you correct someone for sin in love and hopes of them repenting. I agree with that. I don't believe we should let the sheep be led astray and we should call out falseness. But at the same time i. Believe it's important for us to also not neglect to examine ourselves

[@ChiefestofSinner]

Well said brother. Love you in the LORD. Love your ministry. Get well soon

[@chels2145]

I was thinking about Luke! Carry His cross *daily. And what’s wild, I wasJUST talking to my father in law about the parable of the sower of seed (in Matthew). Such a good timing !

[@nethasmith9959]

Good teaching bro Corey, hope u get to feeling better. I've been sick too 😏

[@aprilechols184]

Amen and amen, Brother Corey 🙏🏽 🙌🏽 ❤️ 💙

[@stevenepstein6454]

I read this this morning before work.

[@adamkey2810]

Thank you brother for your faithful, studied teaching. I need your teaching and it is very convicting.

[@Will-o5o6e]

Good teaching

[@SeanAPalmer]

It’s one thing to just say you believe in Jesus than to actually believe and receive Him in your heart!

[@carlabrooks8446]

What scripture is this?

[@SeanAPalmer]

@@carlabrooks8446 Romans 10:9 "That if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and BELIEVE in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." Many people are only confessing with their mouths, but not believing in their hearts. That's why there are people who claim Christianity but are living an apostate life full of deliberate rebellion and sin. Many people are saying Jesus is their lord and savior but they don't truly believe that in their hearts, thus they are not TRULY saved; because when you're truly saved, you should become changed aka be born again. That's also why Jesus says "Not everyone who professes "lord, lord" will inherit the kingdom.

[@Hakeem597]

@@carlabrooks8446 I see where you are going. There is no verse that tells us to accept Jesus into our heart. Amen!

[@muppetonmeds]

@@carlabrooks8446 Romans 10:9-10 "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. You notice this verse has two conditions. one is with your mouth and the other is with your heart. The Bible also says its what a man thinketh in his heart so is he. It doesn't matter what your brain believes if your heart doesn't believe it also. Take care

[@paulaburch1458]

I loved this topic❤

[@nathanielaranda8407]

so clear. thank you for this video

[@VisibleTimes]

Thank you for sharing this message. Gives me a lot to consider.❤

[@andrewmccleod7785]

Following Christ by Denying the Self and Taking Up the Cross Verse 24 says, “Then Jesus said to His disciples, If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.” Here the Lord speaks about denying the self. To deny our self is to lose our soul-life, the natural life (v. 25; Luke 9:24). In verse 25 the Lord continues: “For whoever desires to save his soul-life shall lose it; but whoever loses his soul-life for My sake shall find it.” In verses 23 through 25, three things are related to one another: mind, himself, and soul-life. Our mind is the expression of our self, and our self is the embodiment of our soul-life. Our soul-life is embodied in and lived out by our self, and our self is expressed through our mind, our thought, our concept, our opinion. When we set our mind, not on the things of God, but on the things of men, our mind grasps the opportunity to act and express itself. This was what happened to Peter. Hence, the Lord’s following word indicated that he had to deny himself and not save his soul-life, but rather lose it. To lose the soul-life is the reality of denying the self. This is to take up the cross. Actually, in these verses four things are related: Satan, mind, self, and soul-life. This message is concerned mainly with these four things, which begin with the mind and [575] ultimately consummate with Satan. The mind is the expression of the self, and the self is the embodiment of the soul-life. The soul-life is lived out by the self, and the self is expressed through the mind. What the mind thinks or considers is an opinion, idea, or concept. The mind’s opinion, concept, or idea is the expression of the self, the embodiment of the soul-life. The soul-life is embodied in the self, just as the Father is embodied in the Son. The soul-life is like the Father, the self is like the Son, and the mind is like the Spirit. Thus, we have here a trinity of mind, self, and soul-life.

[@edmundmorris1855]

A Christian is a Born Again person and has the Holy Spirit experience! (Rom.8:9;1Jon.4:15;5:12,13). Every Christian has the witness of God in himself. A Born -Again abides in the truth and love. Bless 🙏.

[@WilliamSmith-if3nb]

Exactly thank you brother

[@candiceworthey1322]

Cory, rest up and do a teaching on John 3 what must I do to be saved!

[@Senoritagata-nu5te]

That humble attitude of telling yourself that you are just a $5.00 worth of dirt is very helpful to me in keeping myself grounded in humility. All the praises and the Glory to the King not to me , no way. I'm a redeemed bag of dirt, Hallelujah. P.s I like to read ( snort books) inside joke for those who know

[@s.hicks7213]

Thank you, Jesus. And thank you, Corey for delivering it. I was reluctant to click on this because I was thinking it would be what it wasn’t. Lord Jesus please keep us all humble and keep our minds and hearts guarded from the dangerous slope of self deception. Help us to believe ourselves to be, as you Lord want us to see ourselves as.

[@BernardSloss]

He blesses one in ways to bless all his children. He wants us to know we are one in him and we are in need of each other for uplifting ❤

[@alonzomorris3420]

Just spoke on the parable of the sower last week

[@cochisecarter6298]

Amen, powerful and true word 🙏🏿

[@robertcaldwell2195]

We are not in our righteousness anymore after salvation

[@numbers22_28]

When obedience is no longer an interest.

[@7thPhire]

From one filth to another! Always excellent, Brother Corey! Amen?

[@MrIAMTHESIR]

Excellent insight

[@andrewmccleod7785]

Following Christ by Denying the Self and Taking Up the Cross Verse 24 says, “Then Jesus said to His disciples, If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.” Here the Lord speaks about denying the self. To deny our self is to lose our soul-life, the natural life (v. 25; Luke 9:24). In verse 25 the Lord continues: “For whoever desires to save his soul-life shall lose it; but whoever loses his soul-life for My sake shall find it.” In verses 23 through 25, three things are related to one another: mind, himself, and soul-life. Our mind is the expression of our self, and our self is the embodiment of our soul-life. Our soul-life is embodied in and lived out by our self, and our self is expressed through our mind, our thought, our concept, our opinion. When we set our mind, not on the things of God, but on the things of men, our mind grasps the opportunity to act and express itself. This was what happened to Peter. Hence, the Lord’s following word indicated that he had to deny himself and not save his soul-life, but rather lose it. To lose the soul-life is the reality of denying the self. This is to take up the cross. Actually, in these verses four things are related: Satan, mind, self, and soul-life. This message is concerned mainly with these four things, which begin with the mind and [575] ultimately consummate with Satan. The mind is the expression of the self, and the self is the embodiment of the soul-life. The soul-life is lived out by the self, and the self is expressed through the mind. What the mind thinks or considers is an opinion, idea, or concept. The mind’s opinion, concept, or idea is the expression of the self, the embodiment of the soul-life. The soul-life is embodied in the self, just as the Father is embodied in the Son. The soul-life is like the Father, the self is like the Son, and the mind is like the Spirit. Thus, we have here a trinity of mind, self, and soul-life.

[@vancejohnson2447]

Wow your 1st 3 min of your Video just validated my Sons resent 3rd or 4th Arrest now in Prison again up in Colorado, saying on a call that He’s a believer in Christ just like he’s done for years. I hope he Repents and uses his Testimony to offer Hope to those even in Prison, letting them know he was a False Christian. I’ll save this link and forward to him hopefully when he’s Released

[@multi-milliondollarmike5127]

So if someone believes that Jesus Christ is Lord and ask for forgiveness of sin, they aren't actually saved? They're only saved if they act like a 'real' Christian? Because what happened to once saved always saved. Good grief.

[@ContendformyFaith]

Amen brother.

[@stevenepstein6454]

Paul did say he had more works than all the disciples

[@DontRush22]

The fact that you have to say what is and whats not a Christian is proof people are not being led biblically. This is just craziness! Why

[@multi-milliondollarmike5127]

This is so damn convoluted. If a person believes that Jesus is Lord and asks for forgiveness they're supposed to be considered 'saved'. But if they don't act like it, and 'take up their cross daily', they aren't? Whoever wrote this really needed an editor, because the Bible has way too much of this kind of double speak.

[@williampatrickboea1165]

Says take up your cross “daily” which means is a consistent action in future.

[@4StonesHandcraft]

If I am unsure of my part in the working of my salvation, I only need to to recall that the veil was torn from top to bottom, and not the reverse.

[@Hakeem597]

Grace and peace brother...I pray you get better. Secondly, I wanted to add that a believer or believing one, cannot lose salvation as he or she belongs to Christ. Philippians 4:7 states "and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." Our hearts and minds are "guarded" through Christ by the peace of God. The Greek word "Guard" is the word "phroureó" (froo-reh'-o) which means a militant vigilance and means "to watch over, to keep, as by a military guard". It conveys the idea of guarding or protecting something with vigilance. It implies a sense of active and continuous watchfulness, often in a military or protective context. The term can also suggest the idea of being kept under guard or being held in custody. I recently retired from serving after 25 years and when we guard a resource, we are trained to give our life for it....up to including the use of deadly force to protect it. God is much, much greater and He is the one doing the guarding of our hearts....a believer can never turn away from Him. The same Greek word is used with regard to guarding our inheritance (1 Peter 1:4-5) and is a work of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit (1 Peter 1:2). Amen!

[@BermudaGrass]

I agree that we cannot _lose_ our salvation, however we can _forfeit_ our salvation if we return to these types of sin: premeditative, calculative, deliberate, active, nonchalant. I can prove this with the scripture if you’re open to having the conversation.

[@Hakeem597]

@@BermudaGrass those are willful and intentional sins (Hebrews 10:26-27). Can you be deceived and depart from the tenants of the faith, yes….but not from faith (Paul wrote an entire epistle on this with Galatians). So my question would be, where in scripture has someone in the New Testament lost their salvation? Forfeit in the context you just explains means the same thing; a synonym for “forfeit” is lost. So please show me in scripture where a person has lost or forfeit salvation.

[@BermudaGrass]

PART 1 OF 2: If there were two collegiate Track & Field teams both scheduled to appear at a meet, and the away team _f0rfeit_ the matchup due to not having had enough participants…the account at the end of their season will have that available slot blotted out ( *Psalm 69:27-29* ). However if style away team did have enough participants and are able to compete, yet they did not gain the victory of that matchup…the account at the end of their season will have that available slot scribed with a score that reflects a _l0ss_ . That is the distinction between the two; both are recorded in the account…but only the latter clearly reflects evidence of a battle, while the former shows that - despite both teams’ appearances - no actual battle ever took place.

[@BermudaGrass]

@@Hakeem597 PART 2 OF 2: Since we are called _to wrestle_ with the flesh (while rejecting the world & resisting the adversary) we cannot fail unless we stop wrestling. Why so? Because we are specifically called _to wrestle_ , not to win ( *Philippians 1:27-30* ). Therefore finishing the race pertains to genuine endurance, as we are crowned triumphant according to having truly battled. But we can definitely repent from the mat, walking away from it completely - deemed false or lukewarm or apostate for not having truly battled ( *Isaiah 29:13* ).

[@BermudaGrass]

@@Hakeem597 The scripture you referenced is about Christians continuing to willfully commit those sins, yes, but specifically says: “ _no sacrifice for sins is left…but _*_only_*_ a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume _*_the enemies_*_ of God_ ”. Are enemies of God going to inherit The Kingdom of Heaven? Does Satan, _thee_ enemy of God, and his workers of inquity have a fearful expectation of judgment & of a consuming rageful fire ( *Matthew 8:28-34* )?

[@virginiapasquito3572]

Amen🙏

[@ChristianityExplained]

I've a question that may be related to this video's topic. I sometimes struggle with the idea of biblical holiness. I know that I can't do it in my strength and desperately need the Holy Spirit. At the same time, I'm not to live like I can do whatever. I agree with Paul in Romans 6 when he asked about the Law. Yes, I am not under the Law. Can you please cover this issue?

[@kramsnave3563]

Biblical holiness is have an understanding of what God requires of us and choosing to follow them when temptations and other things that conflict with the Word of God arise. As brother Corey said, is choosing daily (basically every moment) to listen and live be the guidance of the Holy Spirit has He prompts us in every decision.

[@Estiexo]

Being knowledgeable of the word of God also really helps with this to stay holy.

[@dank2476]

Who are those have good soil? Only the elects. Amen.

[@jway4287]

Get well my brother

[@GarrettChristianWayneHelmic]

AMEN AND AMEN

[@linwoodriddick5503]

Amen!!!

[@knightrider1545]

I must say whatever has your voicebox is making you sound somewhat like Pastor Donnie Mcclurkin

[@jayonnaj18]

There is a vast widespread overwhelming majority of people who are NOT born again! There are many professors but not possessors of Jesus Christ, have never believed in the Gospel and are spiritually DEAD! The Lord Jesus said "NARROW is the gate that leads to eternal life and FEW there be that find it!" I can't discern the true believer from the false, but God sure can! Just remember there are a lot of TARES among the WHEAT!

[@4StonesHandcraft]

Thanks

[@gilbertcammarn874]

Honey n garlic will help your throat. Better if fermented.

[@jtcxz9684]

Amen

[@BermudaGrass]

The confession is not “ _I’m just as bad as anyone else_ ,” the confession is “ _I’m just as guilty of being a sinner as anyone else_ .” That is not being pedantic; those are two different statements - and the latter is most biblical. Jesus Himself revealed that [ before God ] there are greater and lesser sins ( *John 19:11* ). The Word confirms this when it mentions Apostate Christians will be considered worse off in judgement than those who never became a believer ( *2 Peter 2:20* ). That communicates a former believer and an unbeliever are both guilty of sin, yes…but they will not have the same negative consequence (i.e. punishment) because apostasy is deemed a greater sin than refusing to admit one is a sinner. Therefore the scriptures attest that unbelief is not as bad as leaving the faith itself.

[@CCD_106]

Saying we're not responsible for keeping our salvation seems at odds with being commanded to take up our cross daily. Under that belief, salvation is not really a gift as those can be returned/rejected but an assignment/designation. Therefore praying for others to be saved or anything else is meaningless... Isn't this video just the Calvinist position at the end of the day? 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@BermudaGrass]

Yes, it is. He has a lot of Calvinist doctrine but doesn’t realize it.

[@BermudaGrass]

And honestly, it seems to prove that knowing the Greek or Hebrew or Aramaic still doesn’t guarantee correct interpretation. It seems no amount of intelligence can thwart the instruction not to lean on our own understanding ( *1 Corinthians 1:19-21* ) so that God can direct our path. The Word is not returning void, here ( *1 Corinthians 1:22-25* ).

[@elboogie1978]

I am glad you said this. I’m not sure I agree with Cory on this one, or maybe he needs to further explain his position, because he sounds as if we are to maintain our salvation. When we are saved, it is in an instant. So who is to say that someone accepted Christ in a moment in time (like the thief on the Cross) and in that moment they sincerely believed, but because down the road they stumble and appear to not be producing any fruit, this means they are unsaved?? This video just doesn’t sit right in my spirit. I’m going to watch again. I highly recommend a sermon by Pastor Yankee Arnold on the parable of the seed (the Word) and the soil (our hearts). It gave me an entirely new perspective on that parable.

[@muppetonmeds]

I think about the thief on the cross. After he met Jesus and if he had the chance to come down off the cross would that thief have returned to his old life that led him to the cross in the first place? Take care

[@williamgrimes9834]

what is the one sure way to not have eternal life?

[@DarrelHicks-l4c]

It's a lifestyle that comes with it James 1:22) explain that

[@yahsway777]

Have you watched Truthunedited video Testing Christianity? So good!

[@JazzyTlove]

Right

[@JesusJoyJourney]

Please do not deny your new self in Christ. Being a Christian is plainly in the name - Christin - Christ in me “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” Gospels are before the new covenant - - being born again, we become new creations, no longer sinners by nature. Christ is in us, united with us so why deny that new self? God knows who His Children are despite bouts of bad behavior. His Grace WILL teach us to say no to sin and live by faith. We are new natured with Jesus nature and sealed in there by Holy Spirit but we have a brain of flesh full of automatic programmed habits and behaviors that were created outside of faith.

[@stormready-2029]

What you are saying destroys “ once saved, always saved” doctrine!! The Christians of today are told they are saved no matter how they live, what they do, and what lifestyle they live!! Sad false doctrine

[@christianmarshrosey1977]

That it NOT what the doctrine of eternal security teaches my dear. You are mischaracterizing it, mixing up genuine salvation revealed in scriptures with the works-based, man-made salvation that is so common. A genuine Christian, or a Christian I should say, will not and cannot live a loose, unbiblical lifestyle because it is God who is working out the salvation in that person, guaranteeing he will be kept till the end (1 Corinthians 1 v 8). The Holy spirit sanctifies him (2 Thessalonians 2 v 13), the Holy Spirit seals him until the day Christ returns ( Ephesians 4 v 30). Such a person cannot live in a sinful lifestyle. The people you are referring to don't have the Biblical salvation. They aren't genuinely saved. That's why apostle Paul says you should examine yourself to see if you belong to the faith (2 Corinthians 13 v5).

[@BermudaGrass]

@@christianmarshrosey1977 Are you saying that a true Christian no longer has autonomy _from_ The Holy Spirit, or that a true Christian will submit their autonomy _to_ The Holy Spirit?

[@christianmarshrosey1977]

@@BermudaGrass A Christian will, by nature, submit his lifestyle to the authority of the Holy Ghost. However, Christians can still fall prey to the flesh. It can happen because he is not perfect and the sin nature is still there with the Holy Spirit.( Romans 7 v 14 to 25). That is why Paul, also instructs us not to grieve the Holy spirit who has sealed us until the day of redemption(Ephesians 4 v 30). This means that a saved person can fall to sin at times, but such person will be repentant , seeking forgiveness and restoration, He will not be out there living any and any how

[@BermudaGrass]

@@christianmarshrosey1977 So you’re saying (1) a believer does still have ‘A’ _from_ The ‘HS,’ but through faith will choose to _use_ their ‘A’ to submit to The ‘HS’? Meaning they (2) willingly walk by The Spirit instead of The Flesh? Because (3) walking by the ‘F’ grieves the ‘S,’ but walking by the ‘S’ grieves the ‘F’? Meaning (4) we are only as dead to sin as we are living by The Spirit? So (5) the more we live by the ‘S,’ the more we die to the ‘F’?

[@christianmarshrosey1977]

@@BermudaGrass I hope you are not saying that a believer does not sin, because the believer is NOT GOD! Only God is capable of not sinning any at all.

[@Robert-r4s4c]

To be a Christian, you have to be a member of the Church (Body of Christ) established by Christ in 33 AD.

[@19jarhead66]

We are to continue denying one’s self. It’s no long I that lives, but Christ that liveth in me. We take up our cross daily and follow Christ. We are in Christ, means we’re enveloped by Christ, self is hidden, others should only see Christ when looking at a child of God. A Christian may no longer be considered a Christian if they abandon or reject the core beliefs and practices that define Christianity. Some key indicators include: Denying the deity of Jesus Christ or His role as Savior. Rejecting the authority of Scripture as God's inspired Word. Abandoning faith in God's existence or the Trinity. Renouncing belief in salvation through grace and faith in Christ. Rejecting the resurrection of Jesus and its significance. Additionally, a persistent pattern of unrepentant sin and deliberate rejection of Christian moral teachings may indicate someone has departed from the faith.

[@mford1957]

How about people who follow someone like Kenneth C, and believes there wildly false doctrine?

[@Denzelswife-rb7qz]

We need to be “disciples of Christ !!

[@Clod-Hopper]

What is the fruit its talking about and how much of this fruit indicates they are saved?

[@andrewmccleod7785]

Following Christ by Denying the Self and Taking Up the Cross Verse 24 says, “Then Jesus said to His disciples, If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.” Here the Lord speaks about denying the self. To deny our self is to lose our soul-life, the natural life (v. 25; Luke 9:24). In verse 25 the Lord continues: “For whoever desires to save his soul-life shall lose it; but whoever loses his soul-life for My sake shall find it.” In verses 23 through 25, three things are related to one another: mind, himself, and soul-life. Our mind is the expression of our self, and our self is the embodiment of our soul-life. Our soul-life is embodied in and lived out by our self, and our self is expressed through our mind, our thought, our concept, our opinion. When we set our mind, not on the things of God, but on the things of men, our mind grasps the opportunity to act and express itself. This was what happened to Peter. Hence, the Lord’s following word indicated that he had to deny himself and not save his soul-life, but rather lose it. To lose the soul-life is the reality of denying the self. This is to take up the cross. Actually, in these verses four things are related: Satan, mind, self, and soul-life. This message is concerned mainly with these four things, which begin with the mind and [575] ultimately consummate with Satan. The mind is the expression of the self, and the self is the embodiment of the soul-life. The soul-life is lived out by the self, and the self is expressed through the mind. What the mind thinks or considers is an opinion, idea, or concept. The mind’s opinion, concept, or idea is the expression of the self, the embodiment of the soul-life. The soul-life is embodied in the self, just as the Father is embodied in the Son. The soul-life is like the Father, the self is like the Son, and the mind is like the Spirit. Thus, we have here a trinity of mind, self, and soul-life.

[@DarrelHicks-l4c]

Romans 12:1) john 4:24)

[@BonnieTheBeliever]

interesting

[@jimpassi349]

YOU WHO ARE POINTING FINGERS AT SOMEONE REMEMBER THERE ARE 3 POINTING BACK AT YOU

[@BodyOfChristApologetics]

Maybe he needs to do better meaning "do better" like not get caught!. Get well soon brother Corey!.

[@Humblestudent04]

The disciples were first called Christians at Antioch. If someone is a Christian a follower of Christ, that's same as a disciple of Christ a follower of Christ. Many claim to be christian but don't want to be a disciple, they just want to be a believer not a follower. Jesus said first count the cost, pick up your own cross and follow me, endure till the end, do the will of the father obedience is the will of the father. Why call me Lord Lord and not do the things I say.....whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the father and the son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine do not receive him into your house nor greet him, for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.....

[@zeroch1ll150]

You say your on the team, but you don't study the play book and you keep running the wrong plays.

[@williamgrimes9834]

Is Christianity based on what we do or not do or is it based on what Christ has done

[@ContendformyFaith]

What do you think??.Is the bible about you or about Christ ??, And what actually have you done apart from anger the Lord??

[@multi-milliondollarmike5127]

The Bible has verses to justify both views, proving it's just a book of confusion.

[@ContendformyFaith]

@multi-milliondollarmike5127 No my friend you are confused because you don't know scriptures and how it's put together ., Sure there might be some things hard to understand as Peter puts Paul's writings but if you study the bible in it's proper hermeneutics there really is nothing confusing about the bible.And God's plan really comes to light, Hope you find this to be helpful God bless 🙌🏼

[@multi-milliondollarmike5127]

@@ContendformyFaith There are versions of Christianity that believe salvation has nothing to do with works. And there are other denominations who believe it's depends on works. And there are verses to justify both views in the Bible.

[@williamgrimes9834]

@@ContendformyFaith and it is this kind of talk that continues to divide the church. “In essential things we need unity, non-essential liberty and in all things love”..

[@PoolSkool]

Roman seven is about a spiritually dead man trying to keep the law. I don’t know why people think it’s talking about a spiritually alive born again Christian trying to do good but they can’t. You can just read literally in the first verses of Romans chapter 7 for context.

[@lawrencehorner8418]

It's about the failure of the unregenerated flesh, and the dual nature that exists within a Christian. Sinless perfection is a false teaching.

[@lawrencehorner8418]

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[@shaeholden1743]

A more accurate title is "When Is a Pretender Not a Christian."

[@talicialee5741]

I thought we are apart of the body of Christ not Christian we are told to be holy as GOD is holy not a Christian

[@beppiek]

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN THE TITLE IF YOU HAVENT BEEN DRAWN BY GOD TO HIS SON YOU ARE NOT HIS YOU WILL KNOW WHEN THE CREATOR OF EVERYTHING BEGINS TO DRAW ANY OTHER WAY IS PAGAN AND FLESH AND GOD IS NOT OBLIGATED HERES A LIST OF TARES GOATS WOLVES FALSEYS “NO MAN can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.” ‭‭-JESUS “But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.” ‭‭-JESUS FOOLISH NO OIL VIRGINS “Then shall the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN (NOT EARTH OR WORLD) be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And 5 of them were WISE, and 5 were FOOLISH . They that were foolish took their lamps, and took NO OIL with them: Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I KNOW YOU NOT.” ‭-JESUS “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22‬ “So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:”-JESUS “His Lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed: thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”-JESUS I CAN KEEP GOING

[@DennisStarks-m5p]

Christians who love Jesus are real Christ whether they are cessation or not. They just want to be with Jesus.

[@Iamwho_Iam316]

The goats abide by man made religious rules depending on the denomination they align their beliefs with. Who proclaim themselves to be Christian and act holier than thou in church but as soon as it's over they look and act no different than the world. With no evidence of transformation in their character. These types say a simple prayer but have no intention of ever changing who they are to become who they need to be for Christ. Their heart is far from God and how they speak reflects their true character. Their mind is set on carnal worldly things and is not renewed in the Word. Their behavior outside church imitates those they surround themselves with. The truly born again sheep have fruits of the Holy Spirit manifested in their character. Who don't play religion by following man's religious rules but rather are submitted to God and wholeheartedly are willing to live obedient to His Word. Who are filled with the Holy Spirit and are being sanctified to imitate Jesus Christ so they can walk in the fear of the Lord. They don't try to look Christian. They simply are Christian because the Lord qualified them to be called Christian. These types turn from their wickedness by repenting. They know they are sinners who need Jesus to change them and are willing to deny themselves to walk with Christ and endure by faith.

[@alenasvarkulys2810]

Christians are those who accept Jesus as their Savior and follow Him and His doctrine.

[@philologustate4464]

Trinitarians are not Christian and Sabbath keepers. Jesus Christ said John is the end of the law and the prophets and all things is clean to whom it is clean Sabbath keepers rejected that. Jesus said i and my father is one Trinitarians rejected that the scriptures says believers and followers were first called Christians. Christians are those who are baptized according to act 2cpt v38 Jesus said all other ways are thieves and robbers

[@JRake32]

Corey…Corey…Corey - in the parable of the sower Jesus identifies only one that did not believe and be saved. He interprets it for us. The other three all sprung to life from the gospel seed. That’s called being born again. They simply did not all mature. You are reading it with your Calvinist glasses.

[@timothyklock1931]

How does the guy making the video know he is a "true" christian. Perhaps he is self deceived and is not a "true" christian. Perhaps no one is a "true" christian. I guess no one is going to make it unless they figure out how to become a "true" christian. Maybe someday someone can figure it out. Or perhaps a simple faith in Christ is what you need to receive grace.

[@treybarnes5549]

If you love Jesus you will keep his commandments. Is Jesus a minister of sin or should you sin so grace will abound? GOD FORBID!!! Stop it! Quick calling yourself a Christian and act like a wild animal . False pastors, please stop spreading lies that sin doesn’t lead to hell, here and even there. Double minded people are not christian. I am tired of staying shocked by the false idea that sin is okay because we can’t be wrong for Christ sake. crazy

[@jerryj6839]

Anyone that calls themselves a Christian is a deceiver. There are no Christians in the bible, they were all jews. You're living under a fake title. The term Christian is a false title and religion. No one that followed Jesus was a Christian...SMDH...🤣🤣

[@taebrown384]

In the books of acts it mentions the word Christian

[@jerryj6839]

@@taebrown384 Yes, but it was used as a derogatory term to describe the followers of Jesus. It was their way of using the n-word to show disdain for the "New Way" teachings. And just like the n-word stuck to us (black people) the derogatory term "Christian" stuck to his (Jesus) followers.

[@TheTrumpReaper]

I no longer call myself Christian because of the Christian Right, Christian Nationalists, etc using the names of God/Jesus Christ as a political bludgeon. I still believe that Jesus is God. He tells humans not to combine religion and politics in three Gospels.