Christology, Redemptive-Historical Hermeneutics, and Apologetics

Ryan Noha and Camden Bucey speak with Lane Tipton on the heels of recording the sixth course in our Fellowship in Reformed Apologetics: “Christology and Redemptive-Historical Hermeneutics.”
00:07 Introduction
09:00 Van Til's Christology and Hermeneutics
12:53 The Great Debate Today and Other Books on the Subject
20:58 Going Deeper than Evidences
30:36 Modern Christologies
36:41 Ridderbos, Paul: An Outline of His Theology
45:14 Christology and Hermeneutics Informing Apologetic Method
52:41 Conclusion
This is Christ the Center episode 778 (www.reformedforum.org/ctc778)

[@ReformedVosian121]

Dr. Tipton is my absolute favorite living theologian; a brilliant yet humble man with a child like faith, much like Van Til himself. We are blessed to have access to such teaching!

[@PaDutchRunner]

He’s quickly becoming my favorite as well. Much prefer him over Bahnsen, to the extent they they are comparable as Van Til scholars.

[@greglogan7706]

Reformed Why do you think he is brilliant?

[@benbowers69]

This is gold. Thank you

[@greglogan7706]

Ben - What did you find of value in this? Thanks.

[@INSIDEDALINES]

Messiah Reformed Fellowship moved to Gramercy Park in NYC.

[@dylan3456]

Regarding apologetics: My newborn daughter is in some respiratory distress. I would dare anyone to go to a local NICU and preach on sin. What relevance would it have when your baby can't breathe? But that makes me think. Let's say you go from there to a farmers market and preach on sin. What would it have to do with growing and selling produce? Next, stop in at an instrumental music concert. What would sin have to do with harmony? Etc. What a totally niche topic.

[@greglogan7706]

Very sorry to hear about your daughter I hope you were able to work that out I really appreciate you putting all this into context It is as if each one has created their own game-boy and now their lives - and reflection of God - is all about playing this game... Of course, you have to have the same hardware or they cannot play... But then Jesus is reduced to a game-boy... Not sure how any of that honors Jesus of Nazareth - a man - attested to by God...🤔🤔

[@stephendesilva218]

Could you do teaching on the sovereignty of God in Salvation, Providence and finality of the elect life

[@ArtVandelay-ImporterExporter]

I love your channel. I wish you all would speak a bit more plainly though.

[@vanttil101]

Hopefully the course and the readings will add context and clarity. These are quite profound issues that are almost universally neglected in our day.

[@greglogan7706]

​@@vanttil101 What is one of the issues identified here that you find profound?

[@greglogan7706]

As I attempt to seriously listen to this - I wonder - what am I supposed to really get out of this? What was Lane's intent for his audience? What does he want his audience to leave with that they did not come with already? I realize that Lane in his early studies was immersed in readings of Barth, Bultman, etc. so they are pregnant inside his thinking. However, I greatly appreciated the pivot somewhere probably around 30: where one of the podcasters pushed Lane to get a little more up to date since most of us have no idea who Bultman or Barth are much less know any of their content or affected by them - in other words all such discussion is pretty useless for the average listener ( though I suppose a case could be made for some conceptualization of their work to see how such conceptualizations might be seen - assuming such conceptualization are even genuinely reflective of their work in the first place...).

[@Amilton5solas]

Can you help please. Jesus was man and God but since he didn’t know the last hour did he lay his power aside. Please help!

[@perfectsnaitang]

³⁶ “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. (Matthew 24:36) I assume you're talking about this. If so, yes, he laid his knowledge aside in His first coming because He subjected Himself like a 'man' (who doesn't know the hour). But I think right now at the right hand of the Father in heaven He knows.

[@Amilton5solas]

@@perfectsnaitang thank you!

[@Bewareofthewolves]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWakaKKIh5acq6s I found this to be a helpful answer to your question.

[@Amilton5solas]

@@Bewareofthewolves thank you brother!

[@Amilton5solas]

@@Bewareofthewolves wow very helpful!

[@greglogan7706]

Towards the end, what I seem to get out of this as much as anything is Van Til's really simply clothing his own humanity - really his own ego and machinations - under the rubric of Jesus - both to exalt himself - and denigrate those who did not align with him.... Ultimately this all seems political more than anything that captures the reconciliation of God in Christ. And Tipton, evidently a Van Dil disciple, continues to promulgate the same. The final analogy of a chess match is more than apropos - this is all simply a big mind game - and these fellows get a buzz out of playing it.... Well, fair enuf - we all enjoy a good game...🙂🙂 But none of this has to do with the high call of God in Christ....

[@greglogan7706]

As we reflect on the significance of Jesus - may we not see a call to the an original relationship to the Universe (Emerson) - ultimately God Himself (Christ) rather than the dogmatic slumber of recapitulated reformed dogmatics (ode to Kant)...