Broly VS Cumber! (Dragon Ball Super: Broly)

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Chuck

Chuck

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@DBZMacky
@DBZMacky 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone's "possibly stronger" than Beerus, being both stronger and weaker than him at the same time. Schrodinger's cat? Pfft. Toriyama's cat is where it's at.
@johnykakakakaroooto8756
@johnykakakakaroooto8756 5 жыл бұрын
Broly>jiren> beerus
@romankalaj6224
@romankalaj6224 5 жыл бұрын
Your the person that believes Sonic os stronger than most the DBS cast arent you.
@aaronthecreator6988
@aaronthecreator6988 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnykakakakaroooto8756 jiren is stronger then broly, jiren is stronger then gods, but broly MIGHT be.
@glazed_waffle5629
@glazed_waffle5629 5 жыл бұрын
@@romankalaj6224 Ikr
@johnykakakakaroooto8756
@johnykakakakaroooto8756 5 жыл бұрын
@@aaronthecreator6988 It has been stated that broly > jiren. Broly is the strongest tgey have fought at this point Therefore broly> jiren>>> berrus It would be a nice fight but broly will come out victorious.
@primalvelocity3811
@primalvelocity3811 4 жыл бұрын
Broly is so powerful, that he made Gogeta canon.
@Gogeta734
@Gogeta734 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@chantelroyale
@chantelroyale 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@powerlevelvlog1089
@powerlevelvlog1089 4 жыл бұрын
True
@SuperProGamer_3000
@SuperProGamer_3000 4 жыл бұрын
Bro hes so powerful that he made himself cannon
@ayaan4545
@ayaan4545 4 жыл бұрын
Blacksáber Predator wow So u can learn From Fight :O
@jirenjoestar3665
@jirenjoestar3665 5 жыл бұрын
Vegito is so abused by the plot, always nerfing what he should be and defusing last moment, smh
@diegobossio9696
@diegobossio9696 5 жыл бұрын
Makes me angry when we confirm Toriyama didnt put Vegito for Super script. Like... Wtf? Not even toriyama nerfing but toei. At least toyotaro made it more interesting manga version.
@Ramona122003
@Ramona122003 5 жыл бұрын
@@diegobossio9696 By nerfing Merged Zamasu.
@brolybanderas42
@brolybanderas42 5 жыл бұрын
How is Vegetto being nerfed you fucking idiot? How is Vegetto losing or a character being on par with him equal to him being nerfed? You're obviously one of those low IQ imbeciles that claim Vegetto should be stronger than everyone in the series. Pure dumbness at its best.
@diegobossio9696
@diegobossio9696 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ramona122003 By making Zamasu's power more accurate. Well, manga makes more sense regarding power, most of the time... (I remember you, crazy 1000 tons Magetta!)
@SuperSikarlo
@SuperSikarlo 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a gogeta fan and I agree
@ultrainstinctgoku1926
@ultrainstinctgoku1926 5 жыл бұрын
Two questions for the last SDBH Episode 1. Why didn’t Cumber transform vs UI Goku? 2. Why didn’t Goku instant transmission off of the prison planet?
@falcolord8404
@falcolord8404 5 жыл бұрын
Ultra Instinct Goku the anime writing is allot different to game/manga, SSJ4 Vegito was able to keep up with base Cumber but he turned SSJ3 and Vegito had no chance then UI goku pushes Cumber back and the dragon balls are used to take everyone back to where they came from
@Sethnotasithsr
@Sethnotasithsr 5 жыл бұрын
Cumber was very tired. He got forced to de transform twice I believe? One of the times being done by Fu Makes sense he was too tired to fight M.UI Goku. He also seemed very confused fighting the form?
@shurekkukami7855
@shurekkukami7855 5 жыл бұрын
The question I was asking like come on now😂
@walnutsiren5055
@walnutsiren5055 5 жыл бұрын
Goku is stilll alive he's probley in a another UNIVERSE
@gavdog82
@gavdog82 5 жыл бұрын
1. Cumber was tired. 2. There wasn't energy for goku to lock on and goku has to focus to use I.T so with a planet blowing up in his face it would be hard to focus.
@archdh4767
@archdh4767 5 жыл бұрын
if a man does not have sauce then he is lost
@GarrettDavisHustle
@GarrettDavisHustle 5 жыл бұрын
Diego u can get lost in the sauce though
@marraytaleus6598
@marraytaleus6598 5 жыл бұрын
no ketchup, Just sauce, raw sauce!!
@davidhatcher7016
@davidhatcher7016 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@monica46549841
@monica46549841 5 жыл бұрын
Gucci
@nvisi0ns
@nvisi0ns 5 жыл бұрын
Cumber is really inconsistent, but DBH is known for being weird with power levels anyway. Cumber wrecking Vegito KKx20 is his biggest feat, so he'd definitely destroy Broly with ease.
@littleloss8339
@littleloss8339 5 жыл бұрын
That was not KKx20, just x2
@nvisi0ns
@nvisi0ns 5 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah my bad, but that's still stronger than SSJ4 Vegito/Gogeta whatever and SSJ4 fused beat SSJ3 Cumber.
@idiliavillagra2803
@idiliavillagra2803 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. Cumber equal Vegito Blue NERFED. very very nerfed. Broly>Jiren>Cumber.
@vegetasan2716
@vegetasan2716 4 жыл бұрын
If it was cannon I’m sure the author would make vegito destroy him with ease
@atreonmaster2967
@atreonmaster2967 3 жыл бұрын
@@idiliavillagra2803 nerfed or not Cumber easily had the upper hand while in his base form so just from that alone he should be dozens of times stronger than Broly from DBS
@Mad_Beefs
@Mad_Beefs 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly Cumber is such a dumb thing to launch at the same time as the Broly movie. Why would u have another saiyan who’s stronger than super saiyan blue kaioken vegito on a little promotional show when the main continuity is supposed to be more important and Broly loses to regular Ssjblue Gogeta. It kinda ruins the hype of the movie (even though the movie is still far better)
@ishmaelpierson7681
@ishmaelpierson7681 5 жыл бұрын
Hotcheetojuice here you go again complaing like a fucking kid
@Mad_Beefs
@Mad_Beefs 5 жыл бұрын
Ishmael pierson I’m literally just stating facts. Db heroes anime didn’t need to happen
@juliuscaesar346
@juliuscaesar346 5 жыл бұрын
Neither did the movie.
@ishmaelpierson7681
@ishmaelpierson7681 5 жыл бұрын
Hotcheetojuice dummy it’s promoting a fucking game it’s not suppose to make sense damn I’m tired of people bitching about something that promoting a game you and all the other people that take this shit seriously is fucking stupid
@Mad_Beefs
@Mad_Beefs 5 жыл бұрын
Ishmael pierson how is a trash show that’s 8 minutes gonna make anyone want to play the game? True dragon balls fans would already want to play the game in the first place like dragon ball fighterz or Xenoverse
@Just_abigheadnoob
@Just_abigheadnoob 5 жыл бұрын
Literally anything in heroes would shit stomp DBS
@FlyingRaijin52
@FlyingRaijin52 5 жыл бұрын
Then you got moro, Galactus with magical hax powers. GG heroes cast.
@Zenomarinw_927
@Zenomarinw_927 2 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingRaijin52 moro is only multi galaxy level lmao
@nicenamenicesurname8365
@nicenamenicesurname8365 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zenomarinw_927 if he wasn't a threat he wouldn't have been a problem to post top goku and vegeta don't you think?
@Zenomarinw_927
@Zenomarinw_927 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicenamenicesurname8365 to be fair goku and vegeta in the manga were way weaker than anime goku and vegeta
@JB_EDITS927
@JB_EDITS927 5 жыл бұрын
Do people not know that the dbh characters are FAR stronger than dbs and gt versions of characters. Base xeno goku solos gt and super
@YhwachKing
@YhwachKing 5 жыл бұрын
Uh super goku destroy xeno huh goku in his own show
@jerrygriffin4471
@jerrygriffin4471 4 жыл бұрын
John Belardo are you dumb ? Xeno base goku does not solo super 😂‼️
@Zero-hp1ds
@Zero-hp1ds 4 жыл бұрын
Jerry Griffin how?
@jerrygriffin4471
@jerrygriffin4471 4 жыл бұрын
Zero 0 so you telling me he can beat MUI goku ?
@jerrygriffin4471
@jerrygriffin4471 4 жыл бұрын
LZ AnimatioN uhhh Zeno goku struggled with cumber but MUI goku slapped him sooooo...
@TheNewNitro456
@TheNewNitro456 5 жыл бұрын
Has beerus ever shown his full power? How are these characters possibly stronger than him.
@spinosaurusaegyptiacus5491
@spinosaurusaegyptiacus5491 5 жыл бұрын
The only one stronger than Beerus is Jiren. Rest is all bullshit.
@Yes-qj1kf
@Yes-qj1kf 5 жыл бұрын
@@spinosaurusaegyptiacus5491 how is jiren stronger than beerus if goku is stronger. And you most likely gonna say he had ultra instinct. 1. Beerus has been shown to have ultra instinct ( not like goku with glowing effect) 2. Beerus hasn't been shown his full power
@turnerbrawley4715
@turnerbrawley4715 4 жыл бұрын
@@Yes-qj1kf whis mentioned jiren before the tournament of power that in 1 of the other universes that there is a mortal stronger than a god of destruction and this g.o.d was stronger than beerus and supreme kai said that jiren is the strongest guy they have ever faced than even infinite merged zamasu and beerus and beerus didn't even object to the statement meaning jiren is stronger than beerus.
@alfa01spotivo
@alfa01spotivo 4 жыл бұрын
@@Yes-qj1kf whis literally said that jiren is stronger. You know? The guy who has been with Beerus forever and trained him
@howdoiunbakeacake1525
@howdoiunbakeacake1525 4 жыл бұрын
alfa01spotivo stronger than belmod not beerus
@anibalprime9050
@anibalprime9050 5 жыл бұрын
Farmer with a shotgun still solos.
@jamesprice371
@jamesprice371 5 жыл бұрын
Freezas desires to grow 5 centimeters vs bulmas desire to get 5 years younger.
@anibalprime9050
@anibalprime9050 5 жыл бұрын
@@supasik1 you know, you love me :3 (𝘢𝘭𝘴𝘰, 𝘐 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘮𝘦𝘢𝘯 "𝘴𝘸𝘦𝘢𝘳")
@SiNKarnage
@SiNKarnage 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Satan with a Shotgun solos
@shoto7948
@shoto7948 5 жыл бұрын
Dead meme get some new material
@duarteg7244
@duarteg7244 5 жыл бұрын
Wow this is so original and absolutely hilarious I am busting a gut
@Wtfrank90
@Wtfrank90 5 жыл бұрын
Super dragon ball heroes dgaf about power scaling
@offthatbean4092
@offthatbean4092 5 жыл бұрын
In short Cumber is well beyond Broly’s reach🙄This should have never been a debate even if Broly was above Beerus or Jiren undisputedly. Cumber really just claps Main Timeline Super.
@sssprite9416
@sssprite9416 5 жыл бұрын
@@thenew4559 true im on a whole nother level from them
@FlyingRaijin52
@FlyingRaijin52 5 жыл бұрын
Lol good luck trying against Moro. The galactus of dragon ball.
@sssprite9416
@sssprite9416 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingRaijin52 was that to me becuase if it was characters from db super are way weaker than db heros characters xeno goku can one shot canon zeno and moro will be no different besides have you even heard of mechikaburas power xeno ss4 gogeta was a baby compared to him
@FlyingRaijin52
@FlyingRaijin52 5 жыл бұрын
@@sssprite9416 can you read? It was to the original poster lol. I doubt Xeno goku would do something foolish to get himself erased easily if he ever attacked xeno
@sssprite9416
@sssprite9416 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingRaijin52 oh well just remember mechikabura solos
@zebkai2890
@zebkai2890 5 жыл бұрын
Cumber slaps to oblivion
@ericcofferjr3472
@ericcofferjr3472 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of adapting, y'all should cover that guy whose power wouldn't stop growing in the ToP arc. I think he's from universe 4
@idseniddy2645
@idseniddy2645 5 жыл бұрын
Cumber Stomps, no difficulty
@keaunceeclifton8044
@keaunceeclifton8044 5 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t broly stomps
@querty985
@querty985 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@isaachinds3736
@isaachinds3736 5 жыл бұрын
@@keaunceeclifton8044 Cumber
@ishmaelpierson7681
@ishmaelpierson7681 5 жыл бұрын
Keauncee Clifton how if he got stomped by gogeta blue and cumber dicked down vegito blue kaioken so cumber does stomps
@sgnitzlennahv
@sgnitzlennahv 5 жыл бұрын
@@keaunceeclifton8044. Cumber stomp broly fact
@jacenwade
@jacenwade 5 жыл бұрын
I knew this was coming eventually, I figured you or Seth would want to wait until the new episode aired. I’ve been waiting for this for a long time.
@idk-iw9kb
@idk-iw9kb 5 жыл бұрын
Next time it will be Chuck vs seth
@idk-iw9kb
@idk-iw9kb 5 жыл бұрын
@big j yeah ik but this is a joke
@hanzohasashi844
@hanzohasashi844 5 жыл бұрын
Seth has get a 2x zenkai every video he uploads his power level is 50x the amount of subscribers. The same applies for chuck but he gets a 15x zenkai boost for every video he makes
@hanzohasashi844
@hanzohasashi844 5 жыл бұрын
So from that seth's power level would be 33,000,000 and chucks power level would be 47,000,000 (both are more powerful than the most powerful angel) and that is without the content they make,their bio, and the amount of community tab they make. At this point they are *FAR* beyond god fusion 4d goku ( god fusion 4d goku > xeno bardock > xeno goku > supreme kai of time > zeno)
@hanzohasashi844
@hanzohasashi844 5 жыл бұрын
@big j actually its unknown because including all that I mentioned plus them going all out (almost causing the destruction of the omniverse) we would be LONG gone before we know the outcome Except for geekdom101, mj, rhymstyle, seereax, broku72, dfree, And other youtuhers with great content.
@jarvistiffany1986
@jarvistiffany1986 3 жыл бұрын
Trump Vs Biden
@thienvan8614
@thienvan8614 5 жыл бұрын
Chuck. I think you should do a Broly VS Goku Black video. Considering both of them can get significantly stronger during a battle.
@dbtalks9938
@dbtalks9938 5 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work! I’d be lying if I said you and Seth didn’t influence some of my videos. :)
@alexalejandro2910
@alexalejandro2910 3 жыл бұрын
Love your Broly pic bro. I am a fan :)
@yullalalo3298
@yullalalo3298 4 жыл бұрын
"Don't kick Beerus out yet. He is stronger then you think." 😉
@bluefacebaby4167
@bluefacebaby4167 5 жыл бұрын
Easily Cumber. Held his own with a kaioken Version of Vegito.
@michaelvingerling2863
@michaelvingerling2863 5 жыл бұрын
He survived a xeno ssj4 vegito beating him up lol. Xeno vegito is way above vegito blue even with kaioken
@michaelvingerling2863
@michaelvingerling2863 5 жыл бұрын
@@limitbreakingsubliminals7659 have you heven watched heroes because in eps 5 ssj4 xeno vegito was beating cumber
@liaskosntinos
@liaskosntinos 5 жыл бұрын
Actually in the game (which is the source material for both the manga and anime) Cumber got rekt by Vegito blue, after that he went Golden Great Ape (which is equal to ssj4) and Vegito responded with Kaioken to which they were equal but Vegito defused. Afterwards ssj3 Cumber was gonna get killed by ssk4 Vegito but Fu saved him by teleporting him away, and finally he was beated by UI Goku, but saved again by the new villains before he died. The anime wanked him way too much for some reason
@liaskosntinos
@liaskosntinos 5 жыл бұрын
@@limitbreakingsubliminals7659 I was talking about the script from the video game no the manga, and yeah Cumber held no chance against UI goku, and it was stated that cumber even got a power boost lol
@udzombie1997
@udzombie1997 5 жыл бұрын
@@limitbreakingsubliminals7659 toryama didn't said that! Are you making stuff up? xD
@jonreed9829
@jonreed9829 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on who the writer and future plans for the characters want to win
@dragonball9172
@dragonball9172 3 жыл бұрын
It is true that there was no statement that one of the strongest Camber or Broly . But I think Camber is stronger than Broly for several reasons , and his evidence will mention them : First : We will know who is stronger between them through Gogeta ( which is the fusion between Goku and Vegeta ) . And by Vegito ( which is the fusion between Goku and Vegeta using potara ) . Now we have to find out who is the strongest Vegito or Gogeta . The old Kaushin has said that the fusion of potara is stronger than that of Gogeta. So, Vegito is more powerful than Gogeta . Second : Now we will know who is the strongest Camber or Broly . Vegito has fought against Camber ( in Super Dragon Ball Heroes Episode 3 ). Vegito was not able to defeat Camber ( knowing that Vegito was a Super Saiyan convertor Blue with Kayokin, and Camber was in the normal form, meaning that he was not a Super Saiyan convertor ) . Third : In the movie Dragon Ball Super, Broly could not stand up against Gogeta, so Gogeta managed to defeat Broly ( knowing that Broly was a convertor of Super Saiyan 2 and Gogeta was a convertor to Super Saiyan Blue without Kaiokin ). Fourth : There are some people who believe that Vegito and Gogeta are equal in strength and there is no difference between them . And suppose that the kayushin stated that the fusion of potara is better than the fusion of Gogeta in terms of ease of use and the absence of conditions in it, and that they are equal in strength. So if I tell you who is the strongest Gogeta ( Super saiyan Blue mutant ) or Vegeto ( Super saiyan Blue mutant with Kaiokin )? . Of course, Vegito ( Super saiyan Blue with Kaiokin ) will be the strongest . There is no need for me to explain what the advantage of kaiokin technology is and how much it increases the power of its user . Fifthly : We conclude that Camber managed to defeat Vegito ( Super Saiyan Blue mutant with Kayokin ) . Broly was unable to defeat Gogeta ( Super Saiyan Blue mutant without Kaiokin ) . This is evidence that Camber is more powerful than Broly. Sixth : We all know that Broly does not know how to turn into a Super Fighter of his own volition . Rather, he does not transform until he is angry . He does not know how to control his energy . Because no one trained him. ( Like Kelly in the Universe Championship, she did not know how to control a Super Hedgehog, and her transformation was similar to that of Broly ), while Camber can control his energy and can transform into a Super Fighter whenever he wants, and he can transform into a gorilla because he has a tail. While Broly cannot transform into a gorilla because he does not have a tail. And that the camber can convert to Super saiyan 3 also. This is another evidence that he is more powerful Camber than Broly . These evidence and reasons indicate that Camber is more powerful than Broly . And sorry for long ...
@Gypsy_Nightshade
@Gypsy_Nightshade 5 жыл бұрын
U make some good videos and explain everything very well and detailed. Keep up the good work. God bless you man.
@TyroneLDStyle
@TyroneLDStyle 5 жыл бұрын
Cumber beat SSB Kaioken Vegito Broly couldn’t beat SSB Gogeta Jiren held his own vs MUI Goku Jiren >> Cumber >> Broly
@Mad_Beefs
@Mad_Beefs 5 жыл бұрын
Tyrone L.D. Style exactly
@offthatbean4092
@offthatbean4092 5 жыл бұрын
Tyrone L.D. Style You should know that is a Version of Vegito that not only took place after Super but also assuming the movies as well since they knew who Cooler was and Post ToP. So assumably from how deep the Zenkai’s got I’m sure a Post ToP Kaioken Blue Vegito would be above Ultra Instinct Goku.
@MrDot-ve1lx
@MrDot-ve1lx 5 жыл бұрын
Cumber>>Broly>Jiren Mui goku defeated base cumber which should be around jiren level so if cumber would transform in ssj mui goku would probably lose.
@Mad_Beefs
@Mad_Beefs 5 жыл бұрын
Android 234 Base Cumber was weakened when he fought MUI though so it’s not safe to say that Cumber is stronger than Jiren
@johnykakakakaroooto8756
@johnykakakakaroooto8756 5 жыл бұрын
The vegito in the past is way weaker idiot.
@JacobiPatterson12
@JacobiPatterson12 4 жыл бұрын
Base cumber was able too whup vegito blue kaioken times 20 when LSS broly didn't even touch gogeta blue
@vegetasan2716
@vegetasan2716 4 жыл бұрын
If it was cannon vegito would be toying with him
@shido_rimru_
@shido_rimru_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@vegetasan2716 thank you
@ShinLeeGodofPhysics
@ShinLeeGodofPhysics 4 жыл бұрын
Literally heroes power scale doesn't make any sense since it's just promotional game.
@Mope333
@Mope333 2 жыл бұрын
But that’s a weaker person
@demz32
@demz32 3 жыл бұрын
Man I just hope they can give Cumber a new transformation some like Super Saiyan 4 but a little different cuz he still got his tail and when he went in to great ape his hair was long with a orange color design which I like a lot .and I do want them to touch on the story on how he knows about a Super Saiyan God and why was he so furious when he first fight Goku and see him transform to Super Saiyan God. I think that would be a good story for him instead of just having him being one dimension character and just using him. And hopefully he can meet Broly and see who's the strongest Berserker fighter between them. But I really want to see him in new transformation that's like super saiyan 4 but just a little different.
@carrotdtop_1
@carrotdtop_1 5 жыл бұрын
The winner is ... *B I G CHUNGUS*
@carrotdtop_1
@carrotdtop_1 5 жыл бұрын
@@jayku1624 .....magic......
@djgardawubz1278
@djgardawubz1278 5 жыл бұрын
*Big Chungus is god*
@passingclloud1290
@passingclloud1290 5 жыл бұрын
Let this "meme" die already
@jbobko9291
@jbobko9291 5 жыл бұрын
Big chungus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MUI Goku+jiren
@blemurderbyson2033
@blemurderbyson2033 5 жыл бұрын
What the shet are you talking about you
@nexuslord6831
@nexuslord6831 5 жыл бұрын
There’s also the fact that he apparently fought MUI Goku in the manga and was only PUSHED BACK. Without that many injuries, if not at all. (Of course he was SSJ3 in that battle)
@SuperSikarlo
@SuperSikarlo 5 жыл бұрын
Although I may not always agree with your logic, but I will always enjoy your quality content.
@nocturnalvonte5488
@nocturnalvonte5488 5 жыл бұрын
That intro is lit. 🔥
@gokublack5831
@gokublack5831 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Master Chuck and awesome video MJ x TV
@clevelandproutt2978
@clevelandproutt2978 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine Cumber And Broly Fusion😎👍.....Hell Yeah....That Is The Stuff Of Legends!
@syedmohsinraza5294
@syedmohsinraza5294 4 жыл бұрын
Cumbroly yeahh
@Mope333
@Mope333 2 жыл бұрын
Both would still get folded by Mui Goku
@Mope333
@Mope333 2 жыл бұрын
@I’m racist lmao, Goku is essentially a God and would still beat on them.
@Mope333
@Mope333 2 жыл бұрын
@I’m racist they can fuse all they want to, they’ll probably just be at Jiren level 🤣
@Mope333
@Mope333 2 жыл бұрын
@I’m racist lmao you’re lying like hell, it’s already stated that Jiren is leagues above Cumber and it’s not even funny. As I said if they ever fused, they’re probably be at Jiren level at most. Mui Goku is still more powerful than both whether fused or separate 🤣
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 5 жыл бұрын
I knew MJ should be up in this Vid. The Dynamic Duo are back together again.
@davidkevin03
@davidkevin03 5 жыл бұрын
Jiren seemed stronger than Cumber based on DBH episode 9. What are your thoughts on this chuck??
@notorioushkm97
@notorioushkm97 5 жыл бұрын
On an Unrelated note: After watching the Broly Movie I'm still not convinced that Broly is stronger than Jiren. My Reasons...(There are some *SPOILERS* here, read at ur own risk) 1. Goku comparing Broly's power to Beerus saying he's possibly stronger than Beerus but this is just Goku's hypothesis since he's never seen Beerus in Full Power. 2. Goku has seen the Full Power of Jiren 1st hand and if Broly's power was close or equal to Jiren's power he would have said it or reference it since this takes place after the TOP but he didn't. 3. Jiren in 100% Confirmed to be Above GoD level of Power even before he Awakened a new power when fighting MUI Goku, while Broly is a "He Might Be Stronger Than Beerus" rather than a confirmation. 4. Broly has a very fast adaptability that he can catch up to Goku and Vegeta in SSB in a Short Time but later Goku and Vegeta would teleport to Piccolo to do the Fusion Dance. In the mean time SSJ Broly who was Dominating SSB Goku and Vegeta is now fighting Golden Freeza and Freeza held up for 1 Hour cuz Goku and Vegeta Failed their Fusion 2x. In 1 Hour its easy to assume Broly kept getting stronger while fighting Golden Freeza but Freeza is still able to hold off Broly for that long until Gogeta appeared. P.S. SSJ Gogeta was dominating SSJ Broly until Broly went LSSJ then Gogeta was Forced to go SSB in which he Dominated again but not to discredit Broly he Put a a really good fight against SSB Gogeta. Its hard to Gauge Gogeta's power to Jiren cuz there too little info on Gogeta's power atm but he is Definitely Stronger than GoD including Beerus Based on the Info I've gather after seeing the Movie, this is how I would scale it (>=< means More, Equal or Less) MUI Goku > Awakened Jiren > Full Power Jiren >=< SSB Gogeta > LSSJ Broly >=< 3rd UI Omen Goku >=< Beerus > SSJ Broly > Golden Freeza >=< SSB Goku & Vegeta > Rage Broly > SSG Goku & Vegeta > Base Broly =/> SSJ Goku & Vegeta
@ihebnert3987
@ihebnert3987 5 жыл бұрын
Dragon Scale yeah I think that too
@brolybanderas42
@brolybanderas42 5 жыл бұрын
Finally! After seeing a fuck ton of mentally retarded imbeciles in the comment section I have finally found a guy that knows stuff and can easily put two and two together just like me.
@devinthomas6986
@devinthomas6986 5 жыл бұрын
This man has common sense
@robertbarber1198
@robertbarber1198 5 жыл бұрын
Good points however point 4 doesn't hold up due to the general inconsistency of super in general. One could argue that jiren should not have lasted as long as he did mui goku. In any case no direct statement was made in broly's defense to state he's actually stronger than a god so your point stands 4 is kinda weak considering vegeta vs jiren etc.
@blackshadexl
@blackshadexl 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao. "Jiren>Broly"
@med3694
@med3694 5 жыл бұрын
Your intro is dope AF keep up the good work with DB etc
@TheOther644
@TheOther644 5 жыл бұрын
I love Broly he was my introduction to DBZ, and this new version of him is badass, but Cumber is just awesome. Like how in the game he fights for a bit in that straitjacket, and I like how in the series Fu never cuts his tail off which he just lets it hang. On that note, I think if Cumber treats this Broly like his been doing Goku then Broly has a shot.
@rossramkumar3957
@rossramkumar3957 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh vegito blue kaio ken can't even hold his own good against base cumber
@ishmaelpierson7681
@ishmaelpierson7681 5 жыл бұрын
Limit Breaking Subliminals true low key he shouldn’t have been stronger then cumber with blue kaioken x20 since ssj is a 50x multiplier but it’s whatever and he definitely shouldn’t have stood a chance against golden great ape cumber either
@Norrabal
@Norrabal 5 жыл бұрын
@max marrero wait, what did you just say? Did you say 3,000,000 was a saiyan's limit, That has be the most retarded thing i've ever heard. Do you realize how fucking miniscule that number is compared to present goku? During the frieza arc, after goku achived super saiyan, his power was in the fucking hundred millions,and this was just the frieza saga! So get out of here with your "3,000,000 is the limit to a saiyan" bullshit.
@frankgeez6584
@frankgeez6584 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck this logic is solid. I just got into Super Dragon Ball Heroes and I am stoked to finish whatever episodes I can find. Cumber is badass. Just subscribed
@RyogaEchizen
@RyogaEchizen 5 жыл бұрын
facts
@ilysonny9766
@ilysonny9766 5 жыл бұрын
Are we ever gonna see GokuSupermanlover9000 again
@omniomegaflaregodlordx239
@omniomegaflaregodlordx239 5 жыл бұрын
He's waiting to strike again
@blackshadexl
@blackshadexl 5 жыл бұрын
He still make KZbin videos?
@mohsinrehman3026
@mohsinrehman3026 5 жыл бұрын
The best video. It was basically in the favor of both characters
@parsakarbasi6394
@parsakarbasi6394 5 жыл бұрын
Since Cumber and Jiren were evenly matched that would mean Cumber would destroy Broly
@Zenomarinw_927
@Zenomarinw_927 2 жыл бұрын
But wasnt jiren in dbh stronger than canon jiren? Dbh jiren fought on par with base cumber who defeated ssjb kaioken vegito
@georgehouliaras7239
@georgehouliaras7239 5 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this. And the old intro is back, niiiice.
@magickiller94
@magickiller94 5 жыл бұрын
I love the new broly but Cumber would destroy broly
@brolyxeno6455
@brolyxeno6455 5 жыл бұрын
ultragod Only fools can say that it's official now go check out first Gogeta is far powerful then Vegito SSB so now jst think what Broly can do to Cumber
@Slimenotshiesty
@Slimenotshiesty 5 жыл бұрын
Israr Ahmed like this if goku has ssg1 and vageta ssg1 vagito can go ssg1 but if goku has ssg3 and vageta doesn’t vagito cant to ssg3 they both need to have the same forms
@flextape2067
@flextape2067 5 жыл бұрын
@@Slimenotshiesty kaioken is a technique. When they are fused they can use each others techniques and moves.
@Yes-qj1kf
@Yes-qj1kf 5 жыл бұрын
@@flextape2067 Ik I'm late don't question it but you must be kidding. Gogeta is far stronger than vegito. Vegito (when it was the goku black saga) he looked like he was struggling to beat (I forgot his name). Gogeta literally broke reality. I'm pretty sure gogeta would be a person to cumber. Not saying he would but it would be a better choice. 2. Broly can adapt very quickly. So if we are taking into account broly raw strengh and ability to adapt broly could actually beat cumber. But he could also lose because he could just like he did to gogeta but that ain't the point. So yh
@flextape2067
@flextape2067 5 жыл бұрын
@@Yes-qj1kf this is dragonball heroes vegito. He would shit stomp gogeta from the broly movie.
@sageqrt9053
@sageqrt9053 3 жыл бұрын
Cumber is underrated, his design states that he is a BADASS TERMINATOR Hope her also become canon
@ChaoticUrges
@ChaoticUrges 5 жыл бұрын
6:42 Love his hairstyle and how he looks restrained
@theguythatgetsallthetimest5887
@theguythatgetsallthetimest5887 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's funny that this is even a match up, you guys should have waited to do this after we have seen more from Broly. Of course Cumber wins but everyone comparing the 2 totally forget or is just not wanting to recognize that this was LITERALLY, Brolys first ever actual fight. The fact that he was able to push Goku and Vegeta well past their limits is a lot more impressive than Cumber vs Goku and Vegeta. Let's also not act like Goku and Vegeta didn't get stronger after the TOP, it's Goku were talking about here. Goku for sure started training again soon after the TOP and Vegeta always has to 1 up Goku so I'm pretty sure he trained with Goku as well, hell they're sparing at the beginning of the movie. They both have definitely become stronger since the TOP and Broly in his first ever fight, pushed them to almost complete exhaustion.
@ianthecoolthief6226
@ianthecoolthief6226 3 жыл бұрын
Beerus < Broly < Jiren
@geraldcleveland6207
@geraldcleveland6207 3 жыл бұрын
If cumber ever becomes canon he should be slightly stronger then Broly or at least on par with him like a representation if broly was evil
@cumbertheevilsaiyan4402
@cumbertheevilsaiyan4402 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck, can you also do a power scale of cumber in the recent arcs? Cause a lot has happened since episode 6
@javamationstudios2548
@javamationstudios2548 5 жыл бұрын
Question, Could Cumber's Aura corrupt Broly and make him crazy like what happen to Goku?
@pouriasohbatzadeh9056
@pouriasohbatzadeh9056 5 жыл бұрын
It was a great video Chuck.But i have a question,is CC logo goku or ssb goku actualy xenoverse goku and how strong is future warrior 2.if you do it i will realy be thankful.
@yahsworld2940
@yahsworld2940 5 жыл бұрын
So Broly would only win if he had hacks and a handicapp of time. Whereas Cumber wouldn't need any of that to be extremely overpowered as he is naturally. Sooo, Cumber,LOL.
@chompy_didit8399
@chompy_didit8399 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome intro bro!!!
@Chuck
@Chuck 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@vegito6166
@vegito6166 5 жыл бұрын
Cumber beats broly but jiren beats cumber
@udithsethu552
@udithsethu552 5 жыл бұрын
Nah MUI goku was stronger then jiren and cumber beat post T.O.P vegito Blue with kaioken
@shoto7948
@shoto7948 5 жыл бұрын
@@vegito6166 what dude lol
@vegito6166
@vegito6166 5 жыл бұрын
Shoto lol what? What’s funny?
@FlyingRaijin52
@FlyingRaijin52 5 жыл бұрын
*cumber beats broly but broly beats jiren* There, fixed that
@vegito6166
@vegito6166 5 жыл бұрын
This Is an Overrated Image yeah sure u smily black face teethed black mule
@jahiemyoung754
@jahiemyoung754 5 жыл бұрын
+Chuck I found you on Animo App on DragonBallZ. Plus, can you do Archie Sonic and Mario (No Paper Mario) vs Goku and Naruto (Equal Battle).
@jahiemyoung754
@jahiemyoung754 5 жыл бұрын
@@spaceman6463 no, Archie is Multiversal.
@xato-1
@xato-1 5 жыл бұрын
Xeno goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>archie sonic>>>>>>>>>mario>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>literal shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>naruto
@balazsdocs8897
@balazsdocs8897 4 жыл бұрын
Considering this is an equal battle, power, speed and durability are going to be equalized. With that information, Archie Sonic negs the other side with his insane hax like Plot Manip, Immersion and Conceptual Manipulation. Not to mention his Reliant Immortality through the One Billionth Power Ring, which prevents him from being punched to death.
@DragonStrke12244
@DragonStrke12244 5 жыл бұрын
Watch one day there will a arc where beerus shows his real power and all of this “oh broly Might be stronger than beerus” will be irrelevant they just say that to hype the character up thats why the never completely confirm it theyre not that crazy and + thats why beerus was no where to be found in the broly movie cause what would be beerus reason for not coming in and one shotting broly??? Exactly
@maestrulgamer9695
@maestrulgamer9695 4 жыл бұрын
Saiyan's power gaps can be easily explained like a magnitude scale: -Magnitude 1:the base power of saiyans like Raditz,Nappa or Paragus,who would need ssg to match magnitude 2 saiyans; -Magnitude 2:the base power of Goku and Vegeta.They also needed ssg to match Broly's base form. -Magnitude 3:the base power of Broly.Theoretically could match Cumber's base form with SSG.(Cumber was meant to be ssj against Vegito ssb.That was a mistake) -Magnitude 4:Cumber For comparison,a god of destruction tier would be close to Magnitude 4(is debatable how Beerus would be against Cumber)
@taxmanmaz86t
@taxmanmaz86t 5 жыл бұрын
There needs to be another character called CU, so a fusion can take place with Cumber, and then be transformed into a character called Cucumber!!
@JB_EDITS927
@JB_EDITS927 5 жыл бұрын
And regarding the manga of dbh, SSJ4 goku NEVER stated that ssb Goku was a step ahead of him. Not in the anime nor in the manga. It was said in the game because xeno goku is a boss stage you have to beat and when you beat him he says the line “you’re a step above me”
@ianmackay5706
@ianmackay5706 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah and goku ssjb never said ssj4 goku is a step ahead of him either. Need I say more ssj4 fanboy?
@mvp746
@mvp746 5 жыл бұрын
*Cumber curbstomps*
@Stan-ce4oz
@Stan-ce4oz 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@billdoh7
@billdoh7 5 жыл бұрын
Great vidoe man. But i got a question, who do you think is the strongest version of goku? If im correct you said xeno goku isnt the strongest version as i watched the whole how powerful xeno goku vidoes is, and i also saw seths 100 year time skip goku power scaling, and lastly with the newest dragon ball heroes episode how strong is ultra instinct goku? Could he be the strongest variation of goku or is it 100 year time skip?
@Sethnotasithsr
@Sethnotasithsr 5 жыл бұрын
Cumber stomps. I agree
@jpraise6771
@jpraise6771 5 жыл бұрын
Showing interest on a character's form dosent mean that they would hold back, Cumber has never really given Goku any chances, completely decimating him at every fight(except MUI)
@RRolon999
@RRolon999 5 жыл бұрын
broly was also fighting frieza for over an hour
@theopulentone1650
@theopulentone1650 5 жыл бұрын
And Freeza was able to maintain his gold form throughout the beating. Both Toppo and Jiren one-shotted that motherfucker out of Gold. Super Broly's feats are not impressive at all.
@R1kual
@R1kual 5 жыл бұрын
@@theopulentone1650 Freeza clearly got stronger since the t.o.p
@noneya8842
@noneya8842 5 жыл бұрын
@@R1kual On top of this Whis saved him and got Broly's attention. I hate how all the haters leave that part out Frieza was losing every second of that fight even after he transformed.
@R1kual
@R1kual 5 жыл бұрын
@@theopulentone1650 And yet Toppo G.o.d got beat by ssb vegeta
@jamonrandomstuff4294
@jamonrandomstuff4294 4 жыл бұрын
And?
@Drago7166
@Drago7166 5 жыл бұрын
I’m still curious as to a fight between Super Broly and Goku Black. Both adapt to there enemy and get huge increases with time.
@ZayStayGrindin
@ZayStayGrindin 5 жыл бұрын
Cumber stomps obviously😂
@Lowclasswarrior778
@Lowclasswarrior778 5 жыл бұрын
big j: no u
@ZayStayGrindin
@ZayStayGrindin 5 жыл бұрын
Rai Matsumoto ライ・マツモト thank you😂😭
@richardmanuel9812
@richardmanuel9812 5 жыл бұрын
No
@mickeelprather6293
@mickeelprather6293 5 жыл бұрын
@@richardmanuel9812 Base Cumber so way Stronger than Base Xeno Goku And Base Xeno Goku One shots all of Super And Base Cumber is way Stronger Base Xeno Goku
@ZenRyoku
@ZenRyoku 5 жыл бұрын
ok.... 0:00 - 0:17 oooooohhhhhh ssssshhhhiiiitttt... tight ass intro my dude...💯
@isaiascaines3299
@isaiascaines3299 5 жыл бұрын
Why is this even a video 😂
@tyrawilliams3455
@tyrawilliams3455 5 жыл бұрын
nice job improving on the editing keep up the amazing work bro you get better and better each video no cap my nigga
@chrisanderson2056
@chrisanderson2056 5 жыл бұрын
Chuck can you do a Unohana video comparing how strong she is to the other captains in bleach ????
@jordanhenry9237
@jordanhenry9237 5 жыл бұрын
@@SwedishBroManDude I don't think he asked u nigga
@xato-1
@xato-1 5 жыл бұрын
@@SwedishBroManDude you have pepe as your banner you fucking neckbeard
@chrisanderson2056
@chrisanderson2056 5 жыл бұрын
@@SwedishBroManDude i don't believe i asked you.....
@kristiankember8973
@kristiankember8973 5 жыл бұрын
ui is like gohan ultimate form being a form that is ones full potential but ui also unlocks the full potential of ones mind. Also mean multiplier is plot related
@brolyrules-ningen2223
@brolyrules-ningen2223 5 жыл бұрын
Look at my name and even I think it's obivous that cumber would beat broly
@jimmiekarlsson2970
@jimmiekarlsson2970 4 жыл бұрын
No
@mattjohnson5855
@mattjohnson5855 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm concerned broly kicks everything's butt I'm team broly forever I truly believe in his hidden potential that's all I got to say about that
@veggieboi4994
@veggieboi4994 5 жыл бұрын
Plus, Goku got incredibly stronger in the movie and heros. So definitely stronger than Jiren, seeing as Goku definitely did not stay the same strength
@mostunknown502
@mostunknown502 5 жыл бұрын
Except now Broly has the ability to train against Goku and Vegeta, this to me means his potential is vastly higher. Broly was this strong without any real battle experience.
@mr.saucemanxbackupaccount8969
@mr.saucemanxbackupaccount8969 5 жыл бұрын
DBS Broly is pretty much the same as Kale. Only difference is Broly had a movie dedicated to him.
@Mad_Beefs
@Mad_Beefs 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Sauceman X Backup Account Broly is far stronger than Kale though
@mr.saucemanxbackupaccount8969
@mr.saucemanxbackupaccount8969 5 жыл бұрын
Hotcheetojuice that too
@stephenschneekloth1535
@stephenschneekloth1535 5 жыл бұрын
Broly as actually very different from Kale. Kale's power comes from SSJ Berserk which is something different that what Broly does. Broly actually use the Great Ape transformation without actually transforming (or needing a moon) and then goes SSJ before finally getting the unnamed green hared SSJ form Broly is known for (I think its just called Full Powered SSJ Broly but will probably get a real name later). The great ape aspect to Super Broly is what causes him to "loose control" and flavors his moves (lots of mouth beams) and makes him significantly different from Kale.
@hawkinsgames5773
@hawkinsgames5773 5 жыл бұрын
@Hiccup H. Haddock. well they are their twin universe counter parts
@dontbemad.5435
@dontbemad.5435 5 жыл бұрын
Kale barley comparable to a ssj Goku (only after UIO 1) Broly extremely comparable to post top Goku, Vegeta, Freiza and then Gogeta
@RAPTOR948
@RAPTOR948 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, feels more like Cumber will start slow, he'll show interest in Broly's fury, and as the fight goes on, Cumber may get more serious, but he'll end up taking the loss when Broly goes full berserk. Broly's Super Saiyan Berserker puts him on a different level, and we did see him take on Goku, Vegeta, and Frieza when he himself was base level, he beat all three of them shitless. Broly should be given a redemption story though to make him more of a friend or an ally, but only because the villain of the arc decided to piss him off or disturb him when he's napping.
@sgnitzlennahv
@sgnitzlennahv 5 жыл бұрын
actually cumber can make broly killhimself. because cumber aura can possess whoever touch it especially when facing someone like broly who have weak mind and attacking without thinking. but yeah cumber prefer fighting but don't forget cumber in base is actually stronger than vegitto ssbkkx20 we should consider by the time broly adapting broly might be too tired or perhaps having significant injury that can put him in handicap or disadvantage position against cumber
@iGotEggs
@iGotEggs 5 жыл бұрын
Cumber is in a straitjacket, Broly is not.
@clamantstone
@clamantstone 5 жыл бұрын
Chuck you should do a Video on The Characters and how strong they are : The Immortal Hulk, Cosmic Ghost Rider and The New True Sentry.
@superexclusive452
@superexclusive452 5 жыл бұрын
UI Goku >> Broly >> Cumber
@geg708
@geg708 5 жыл бұрын
_Cumber >>> DBS UI Goku ≈ DBS Movie Broly_
@ahmedvg5075
@ahmedvg5075 5 жыл бұрын
cumber overpowered vegitokk ...how the fuck broly can defeat him
@FlyingRaijin52
@FlyingRaijin52 5 жыл бұрын
@@geg708 yet Ui Goku defeated him anyways lol ok
@geg708
@geg708 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingRaijin52 _That was Capsule Corp Goku lol, you shouldn't confuse that nigga with DBS Goku._
@ishmaelpierson7681
@ishmaelpierson7681 5 жыл бұрын
This Is an Overrated Image that was a cc goku dummy he much stronger then the dbs goku plus his mui is way more powerful then it was in the tournament of power plus he beat a weaker cumber
@dinohermann1887
@dinohermann1887 5 жыл бұрын
According to VS Battles Wiki, Cumber is 2-B (Multiverse level) and DBS Broly is Low 2-C (Universe level+), that means Cumber wins easily against Broly!
@muhammadamito7691
@muhammadamito7691 3 жыл бұрын
Legendary saiyan vs evil saiyan
@Tx-qk3zj
@Tx-qk3zj 5 жыл бұрын
DB Heroes should make El Hermano an official DBH character just for the fun of it.
@billa_ackerman.exe.
@billa_ackerman.exe. 3 жыл бұрын
Now it's official 🔥
@Hayder609
@Hayder609 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there ...☺ Great video...👍❤ I have request if u don't mind ☺ Can u make a video on "Hit vs UI goku (first time) " ☺
@tomcooper3819
@tomcooper3819 5 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but... why the hell didn't Cumber go SSJ during his struggle with UI Goku!? An at least 50X multiplier he may of stood more a chance
@perikliskaravangelis2591
@perikliskaravangelis2591 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Chuck,I was wondering what your opinion was about one of the newest marvel comics where Thanos is becoming everything and TOAA is unable to stop him (can't remember the name of the comic)
@hollowface6537
@hollowface6537 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like a cool story would be if multiple fusions fought Broly and made him adapt to such high power levels and then lead Broly to Cumber. Therefore Broly and Cumber would be same level and if Cumber went super saiyan, Broly would adapt like he did with Vegeta
@torbolion
@torbolion 5 жыл бұрын
I have the bell clicked, but not getting notifications to your videos homie.
@Ikeai-zv8lv
@Ikeai-zv8lv 5 жыл бұрын
Me Before watching the video: This isn't even fair. Cumber made 6th dimensional characters and possibly 7th look like fodder in his base form while Broly is probably multi-Universal at best(I honestly don't what Broly's destructive capabilities are but I know Broly has to be atleast multi-universal. Me after watching the Video: Alright, it all makes sense now. Broly with the Dark Star dragon balls actually stands a chance based on how Cumber fought in the anime.
@markymark5198
@markymark5198 5 жыл бұрын
How is Cumber "confirmed" above Jiren but when they fought in heros Jiren seemed to have the upper hand. And even seemed like he was heavily surpressed
@scottyboykin1198
@scottyboykin1198 5 жыл бұрын
Marky Mark Cuz u have to remember Cumber was already weak y u think meta Cooler Was able to win The Whole entire Show was jumping Him Through Out 13 Episodes Lmao 😂
@markymark5198
@markymark5198 5 жыл бұрын
@@scottyboykin1198 that makes no sense. The fact remains that only Jiren and UI Goku were able to defeat Cumber and force him into ssj3. No one else was able to hold him down. Not Vegito ssj4, not Vegito ssjbluekkx20, literally no one.
@markymark5198
@markymark5198 5 жыл бұрын
@@scottyboykin1198 and no meta cooler isnt the strongest.
@PopularNobody
@PopularNobody 5 жыл бұрын
Cumber would wash ANY version of Broly up
@MsDark93
@MsDark93 5 жыл бұрын
It's really hard to say tbh. Broly only lost cause of sudden jump Gogeta done from SS to SSB. If Gogeta would go step-by-step ssj - ssj 2 and so on - i'm fairly certain he could've kept up and eventually overpower even SSB Gogeta. I mean, he's quickly adapted to SS Gogeta. So much so that Gogeta decided to just straight up go for the kill and not wait. So if Broly can survive Cumber's onslaught - i'm around 80% sure he'll be able to overpower Cumber eventually. That's only my opinion.
@icarusflys6856
@icarusflys6856 5 жыл бұрын
Intro is on point
@xavierpittman1533
@xavierpittman1533 5 жыл бұрын
Is no one going to talk about how when Gogeta and Broly clashed attacks they broke into a whole new dimension?
@BriantheWolverine
@BriantheWolverine 5 жыл бұрын
So next heroes arc we have a chance to see cumber vs Jiren, who do you boys got you’re money on?
@petermora4385
@petermora4385 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Chuck I wanted to ask if you can do a versus video for John wick and the equalizer. Me and my friend are having this debate and I thought you'd be the best at breaking it down right for us.
@sianth2126
@sianth2126 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see The openings back
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