Everything Wrong With Fantastic Four In 15 Minutes Or Less

Before Spider-Man 3, Green Lantern, or most of the modern "bad" superhero films... there was Fantastic Four. And its badness still holds up well to this day. We went looking for sins, and yeah... it took a while.
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[@mannersmakythman]

just remember that this is the best fantastic four movie of all time

[@kierans5583]

yup

[@insertwittynamehere1411]

That 1994 film was better than the godfather

[@tobychivers1268]

Char Rar what about the incredibles?

[@actionjackson3522]

Toby Chivers The Incredibles is the best Fantastic Four movie. If only the Fan4stic film had emulated it

[@WilliamMcFarlandVideo]

Silver Surfer is better than the fist in the duology but still bad, while ... Fant4stic is .... different, kinda like apples and oranges ... but ... actually has more character development, objectively, because they don't get their powers 10 minutes in. It straddles the line of serious and ridiculous so it fails, while this older one just embraces the ridiculous ... case in point, 4stic gave a real life anchoring to the phrase "clobering time" instead of just saying fuck it and making it ridiculous like as in the comics ... still this was following the trend of movies like Dark Knight taking campiness and going serious ... so I like the first 1/3 of 4stic enough to say its better than this 100% pile of garbage ... but end of the day, a superhero team-up in which everyone gets different powers from a single event is just not going to work in a movie today ... independent origin stories for team-ups is the way of the future and every Fantastic Four movie has been a waste of money and a waste of countless of hours of work and viewing

[@keirnonmcdermott5095]

stan lee has said that they purposely made characters have the same letter first and last names to help him remember them back in the day. Sue Storm Scott Summers Peter Parker Reed Richards Bruce Banner Otto Octavius Matt Murdock Pepper Potts Curt Connors J Jonah Jameson Stephen Strange... i'm sure there are more.

[@masterchiefreclaimer3130]

+David Silva its stark idiot

[@keirnonmcd1996]

+David Silva shit. I forgot that because 100% of the characters aren't like that, it means it's a false statement. Damnit. Stan Lee lied to me! Golly Jeepers, what a fool I've been!

[@iankopeski2831]

+David Silva ok Raj.

[@cheesefisherman4489]

Illiteration helps memory which is why movies like to use it

[@lunettesdurdu4233]

i never understood that before

[@madisonw506]

"You know, it'll be really interesting if they ever find a way to put the Fantastic Four and Captain America in the same movie." I laughed way too hard. XD

[@TGFan101]

Steve/Johnny would have an identity crisis

[@OwenLeeJuan]

+Joe Blow Dont forget that Ben Affleck also played himself and a different character in the same exact movie

[@alexc.t.9837]

Madison Skywalker unfortunately they would most likely put the new human torch in that movie rather than chris evans....plus if any movie were to have both in it it woul be the upcoming avengers movie,infinity war.

[@MasterAnakinSkyWalker]

Not to mention, Cap would say "LANGUAGE!" every time Johnny swears

[@raul2169]

Mohammed Jawid well.... it's happening

[@Sunprism]

Fun Fact: The postman that Stan Lee plays has a name in the comics, Willie Lumpkins. He was the loyal postman for the FF for years, tried to join the team because he could wiggle his ears, and is actually the character that Stan Lee said he most wanted to be

[@danizarauza]

Actually every member of the Fantastic Four has 2 powers: Sue Storm/Invisible Woman: Invisibility and Force Fields Johnny Storm/Human Torch: Fire Body and Flying Ben Grimm/The Thing: Rock-Like Skin and Super Strenght Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic: Elasticity and Badass Grandpa White Hair

[@Silentgunner555]

Axe Dyke Let's give Richards a third ability: The longest dick in the world!

[@dillonsteele7829]

Just because something changes your appearance dosent mean that's a super power

[@Silentgunner555]

Dillon Steele I think a giant dick is an exception

[@dillonsteele7829]

Well sure

[@TallMist]

+Dillon Steele If you're talking about The Thing looking like a rock, it kinda is a power, from one point of view. It makes you less vulnerable to the things that regular skin is vulnerable to. If you're talking about Reed Richards' dick... Yeah, I'm gonna just... Not. XD

[@CerberusKnox]

I can't believe I have to call this the good Fantastic Four movie now.

[@Dmoore2084]

you can do what i do and just call incredibles the good fantastic four movie

[@2wingo]

CerberusKnox No, "The Incredibles" is the good Fantastic Four movie.

[@Dmoore2084]

2wingo beat you to it :)

[@1mezion]

I know exactly what you mean and I thought it couldn't get any worse

[@Nothing_serious]

LaserLance125 GFS The movie is shit

[@burgerdiverbanandodansparc9154]

remember people: This is the BETTER FILM.

[@burgerdiverbanandodansparc9154]

Bro. I mean with the Fantastic Four.

[@burgerdiverbanandodansparc9154]

***** I mean with marvel, damn it.

[@its1899]

+Riki Kage disney sucks ass

[@Lonelyenglishgirl]

+Oskari Eronen you must have had a fun childhood

[@rockeshacarney7547]

+Oskari Egdvfronen th gg!

[@7sixreese]

Crazy how this The Thing looks better than the 2015 version..

[@Ash-ww8xg]

2015's The Thing looked like chocolate icings...

[@insertwittynamehere1411]

+Ashwin Vijayaraghavan with no cock!

[@Ash-ww8xg]

Lol yeah

[@bigbruno2232]

The 2015 I did like a little better cause he was much bigger and chunkier though at times he looked like Kentucky fried chicken.

[@ivarsnorrijonsson8377]

This one just looks like rubber

[@alyssaj8779]

On the nurse not telling Johnny about his temperature, she probably just thought that there were something wrong with the thermometer since if an ordinary person had a temperature of 200 degrees, they would be beyond dead. Hell, they'd be dead by the time you get to 120, or at least have severe brain damage. So it makes sense that she doesn't tell him about what seems to be an inaccurate reading.

[@chrisallie2224]

Tara Jones or she thought he was hot like what chicks always say about me

[@chrisallie2224]

And I know this comment of yours was 4 years ago

[@chrisallie2224]

Wikid Sk8er this sucks

[@dianabandicoot]

Dude he was just attacked by a cloud in space. Ofc she would tell him lol

[@kaeaja]

Technically, Sue's ability to turn invisible is directly related to her ability to create Force Fields. She basically uses a force field to bend light around her so that the light cannot intersect with her body, thus rendering her invisible because no light is hitting her, after all you can only see something so long as there is light on it, i know that is confusing but thats how her Invisibility works, she prevents light from interacting with her, thus rendering her invisible and uses her Force Fields to do that. If I remember the explanation correctly that is.

[@banoffee2691]

I love you

[@kaeaja]

MrBanoffeeCrunch Hehe aww, well what can I say, I like to research this sort of stuff :3

[@kaeaja]

***** Lul better to be a good lil nerd then some high school jock >:3 *Is basically quoting Reed Richards when that general was harping on him*

[@kiyokoha]

+Kaeaja That's a pretty awesome explanation. Well done.

[@ArandomStranger-x3r]

But if this applies then her clothes would also need to be invisible when she turns invisible

[@TheNetherRegion]

Van Damme and Von Doom could could go back in time to save the 8th president Van Buren while listening to Van Halen, and stop Van Helsing from being made. That would be Van Tastic.

[@CinemaSins]

While living in a van... down by the river.

[@Deadlyshot57]

And hoping not to VAN...ish

[@littlebrownkid92]

CinemaSins well wearing vans

[@Mimyakko]

Throw a Van Gogh painting in there

[@Gaavcio]

They need to visit Vancouver first...

[@Actile1]

Considering the time this movie was made, I actually found it to be a good movie. Sure, the plot has holes, but I honestly saw it as a kid's super hero movie. Plus, I really liked the cast. I think all the actors matched the characters. I thought the Thing was well made, too. And this Dr. Doom wasn't bad, either. I liked the way his powers showed in this film.

[@TheBraunMachine2011]

Me too. I actually didn't mind it then, it's still ok now. the reboot was pretty bad though.

[@etherean369]

I also actually really like this movie. The latest one was just a bore.

[@shriharihudli]

Compared to the recent reboot, this is a freaking masterpiece.

[@jamescoombs3329]

I agree, but I wish that the new one had more time with the superheroes

[@yoda908]

Best FF4 live action so far. Be interesting to see how they are handled in the MCU.

[@EverythingFan02]

So if the machine replicates the storm and turns the human Ben back into the thing...could the machine give anyone random super powers?

[@acarter9806]

Probably. But we don't want this to become season 3 of Heroes.

[@eunchii15]

Aidan Carter That is the most accurate thing I've ever read.

[@najhoant]

EverythingFan02 So someone steals the technology and uses it to sell superpowers to anyone who can afford them. THERE'S your sequel

[@TheJayRizzelProject]

Aidan Carter omg I love this comment, and I hate the fact that they nerfed Peter 😒

[@acarter9806]

TheJayRizzelProject Peter was broken as hell. Sylar got away with it because he's a badass and he has drawbacks. Peter should have never got that sudden Mary Sue boost.

[@isyl2341]

There's a comic where Human Torch and Captain America fight..... I'll let y'all figure the rest of that out yourselves.

[@andrewdaly8458]

CGI lots ad lots of CGI

[@jackbailey1987]

I would assume because they're same actors? I don't know you tell me.

[@AstralMuffin105]

Jack Bailey They are, yeah. So it would be kind of awkward to do in the movies.

[@Daydreamroses]

too bad human torch isnt chris anymore

[@SwnyNerdgasm]

***** They're rebooting the FF but marvel doesn't have the rights to use them in the MU

[@MediumRareOpinions]

So if the machine can turn Ben back to normal and then back to being the thing again in that short time period, Why the hell does Ben live as the Thing on a day to day basis? Live as a human and change into the Thing when you go on missions!

[@thbzzproductions3496]

Not enough power. He needed Doom to change him the first time.

[@bluebaron207]

@@thbzzproductions3496 However, he changes back without doom's help

[@cjkalandek996]

@@bluebaron207 nothing makes sense in this film, but you could make the argument it takes more energy to reverse the effects of the cosmic storm than it takes to give someone super powers. After all, Reed tried it before Doom turned Ben to normal and all it did was momentarily throw his powers out of whack.

[@memator1996]

I actually loved this movie as a kid

[@questionmarc4208]

Mehmet Erdem I love you Mehmet. or should I say Bojack?

[@etherean369]

Me too😩

[@MostMorose]

Same

[@chrisallie2224]

No worries mister ed

[@bzuku9554]

i remember i never liked it when i was younger. watched it again and still don't like it lol

[@WavyMusic]

Oh boy CinemaSins is going to have alot of fun with the 2015 version of this movie

[@nadiyah7071]

Ha! Ikr? It was terrible, it has a lower rating than the original on imbd 😂😁😄

[@thomasbaron5367]

the whole reboot itself is a sin! lol I wouldn't be surpised if CinemaSins actually just streamed the movie with a continuous sin count sound throughout the whole movie xD

[@nadiyah7071]

I dont understand why they didn't just make the Fantastic Four 3 with the same actors. It probably would have done better than the new movie.

[@Friendlysociopath]

Ayesha Summers And that is probably the saddest part about the new movie.

[@owenpo1417]

***** Is it just me or is the new version basically the same thing as the first one? I mean if you ignore the space thing.

[@JelloApocalypse]

11:09 "What circumcises would've led to you coming out to romantic New York City sights if you weren't already dating?" ...Fruedian slip?

[@TripleTiger100]

Remember our rule about commenting? DO- No, I'm just kidding.

[@SigurdKristvik]

JelloApocalypse I love your work!

[@MegaAlexc123]

Fuck You!

[@ottamotta]

Hi! Love your work!

[@katlicks]

More like JEW York!

[@ragingfiip]

HOW DARE YOU COUNT A STAN LEE CAMEO AS A SIN!!! RAAAWWR, NERD RAGE!!

[@TheVWarriors]

i THINK its because he's in (almost) every marvel movie. but i still dont think thats a sin, i think it shows how much the directors/actors love the characters and love stan. he doesnt get paid to do this, and he doesnt ask to do this

[@ragingfiip]

He only makes cameos in movies of characters he created or co-created (although he didn't appear in X-Men: Days of Future Past). That's why he didn't appear in movies like the Blade trilogy, the Punisher, or the Ghost Rider movies.

[@RevanNaut]

CinemaSins: We're not reviewers, we're assholes.

[@andrewdockrill]

I am not trolling when I say this but his cameos always annoy the shit out of me.

[@Big_Nate869]

TheVWarriors stan lee plays the role of the watcher

[@GeorgeMonet]

What super powers did the flowers get?

[@noahstrand1644]

lol

[@MURFGAMING1228]

The powers of Super Man. All of them. Problem is, they don't have brains, so they can't really do anything with them.

[@ctemp3246]

GeorgeMonet I'm told Undertale happened then

[@MURFGAMING1228]

Darth Lttl Actually that is much more comical.

[@davediehler]

you know groot?

[@glencoconut]

CinemaSins is gonna have fun with the 2015 reboot XD

[@Mike-eo1bw]

Glen Coco Haha itll be their longest video they will ever make

[@altokarhan9526]

***** They will probably just say And add 2432758437549769846988936 sins. 5 second video.

[@MoserTheHoser]

Alcool Man agreed. That they will.

[@altokarhan9526]

MoserTheHoser Auto correct came in and replaced big With beige -_- lel

[@Mike-eo1bw]

+Rubin Juwel The Lady was adopted

[@personM4N]

6:25 - "So why are Johnny and Ben suddenly able to just prance by all the cops too?" Johnny and Reed *ding*

[@personM4N]

personM4N Everything Wrong with Everything Wrong with Fantastic Four. Everything Wrong with-ception.

[@FlyingPoltato]

I actually liked this movie alot. And it was really alot alot better than the 2015 one. THE PEOPLE HERE HAD PERSONALITIES

[@joejunior5991]

BTW both Human Torch actors become more famous than most cast in Fantastic Four

[@therealtruevigil]

@@joejunior5991 jessica alba is pretty famous too

[@donavenhollow5709]

I'm giving 100 sins this episode of Cinemasins for giving more sins to the better F4 movie than the shittier new one.

[@jo-el1898]

You realise that the sin count does not matter

[@donavenhollow5709]

+Joel Wynter I'm still giving 100 sins either way.

[@Gearless13]

I'm Giving 1,000 Sins do to the fact that they gave A Sin to Jessica Alba Cleavage Also Adding another 1,000 because they gave a sin to a very lust full body of Jessica Alba which Lust is one of the 7 deadly sins so very cute play on words type Cliché

[@pw3714]

What? I didn't understand a word of this.

[@Memorex996]

The sins have no real value

[@TheNabspro]

You need to do Everythin Wrong With High School Musical!

[@daenerystargaryen5260]

But.... there's nothing wrong with it...

[@zacharylahana2883]

Daenerys Targaryen no movie is without sin

[@anphuongnguyen1011]

Daenerys Targaryen Khaleesi!

[@ajortiz602]

Daenerys Targaryen Sin Count: 1 The movie exists along with two sequels and a spin-off.

[@Seraphiel29]

Joseph Ortiz That's worth 3 more sins then.

[@SakuraAvalon]

I'm gone to defend the temperature thing. If his temperature is 209, but you can't see anything wrong with him, he's talking normally and showing no symptoms, it's highly reasonable to just assume there's something wrong with the device being used to take his temperature.

[@cytorakdemon]

The two things that make F4 suck ass. Jessica Alba as Sue Storm, I can't tell if she's not trying or if the writer/director just expected her to just look pretty in a catsuit. They cut waaaaaay too many corners when they were writing Dr. Doom. They skipped out on royalty, his technical expertise at building a suit of armor, and made him an idiot.

[@qbbrock6719]

I agree, the only good things of this movie: -Chris Evans -The final battle with Doctor Doom

[@cytorakdemon]

Q b b Rock Minus Jessica I think the rest of the cast did well. The final battle is cool, but it is waaaaay too short.

[@qbbrock6719]

Eric Coldfire lol, true

[@silverdragon122]

Jessica Alba as Sue Storm, I can't tell if she's not trying or if the writer/director just expected her to just look pretty in a catsuit. Well, she did look pretty in a catsuit, so I say all's well that ends well.

[@thisistheendpt2]

That and Alba in general. Oh, her going peroxide blonde in the sequel.

[@BNMusic2010]

I'm a welder and the only process in welding that would ever put out as many sparks as that is either plasma cutting or Oxy-Acetylene cutting. which is counter productive to the movie because that means that their actually disassembling the statue. which is a sin. or two or three. Ding

[@henrycoffey1207]

Cool. A welder. Did you ever get burned by the sparks?

[@Friendlysociopath]

Food for thought, Ben can't use the elevator; meaning he walked down/up the stairs for both of those buildings.

[@GeorgeMonet]

Friendlysociopath Yes he can. Elevators are probably rated for 1500 lbs, the scale says Ben weighs around 400-500 pounds now.

[@Friendlysociopath]

GeorgeMonet The movie disagrees with you, Ben could not take the elevator alongside the others. Reid is a stick, Susan and Johhny are both on the lighter side as well- you want to say those 3 together make up nearly 1,000 pounds? Or that the makers weren't paying attention to proper weight? They made a point to have a scene where Ben could not use the elevator.

[@Dagenspear]

GeorgeMonet That's an elevator in the real world. In movie world it can be any weight as long as it's not contradicted by the movie itself.

[@carlharris4045]

Friendlysociopath maybe he just super jumped from one building to the other XD

[@liquidsleepgames3661]

Friendlysociopath i know 2 year old comment but when ben is on the table in the lab it puts his weight on screen

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

I know the "the books doesnt matter" might also apply to comic books....but a sin for the names is a bit unfair, the names comes from the comics and therefore, the writers are with their hands tied in details like that.

[@sillybillybob123]

If you know that then what is the purpose of your statement?

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

that picking a sin on their names shouldnt count, numbskull xD

[@jasonjacksn]

It isn't the name its how it is introduced.

[@Frankthegb]

Even is he HAD meant the name (SPOILER: he didn't), movies change from the comic books ALL THE TIME. You've gotta get used to that. Hollywood doesn't make the movies to appeal to the comic readers.

[@WaddIes]

relax, its CinemaSIns

[@xstationo11]

Better than the 2015 reboot.

[@jmal1402]

U do not know

[@MrToolz.]

Snake Slayer 2000 ? You don't know if he hasn't seen it yet stupid. I have and he's absolutely right

[@FIRENICEWOLF]

Put this with captain Mercia and then two of the same guy !

[@marcconnolly4824]

***** FF2015 was the worst movie I've seen in 5 years. At least, as bad as this one was, it had a spirit of fun and tried to follow canon.

[@MultiHydralisk]

Marc Connolly And people HAD PERSONALITY. And the action got the job done.After the 2015 reboot....ugh...this version and the sequel are both a breath of fresh air.

[@GeorgeMonet]

Von Doom's company is so big that it built and owns a giant space station, but has so few sources of income that when a failed project that was never part of the company's budget or finances experiences a slight setback the stock price goes belly up? Also, this giant company that controls a space station is only just now issuing its first public stock?

[@PuddingXXL]

also why the fuck did bens medical bed crushes under his weight but he can totally sit on a sofa???

[@8bitpixelbreakin]

I don't get one thing, if the "Thing" has his powers cured, then decided to go back into the machine to get them back, why didn't he get a different power? Does everyone only have a specific power they can have? Or did he find the rock monster setting.

[@springgreengoober]

+Comic Sans MS i think he wanted to keep the same one so it doesnt confuse ppl.but u will still not get back together with ur ex-wife

[@comfortouch]

I wouldn't have dumped him, I would have renewed our vows.. A hard man is good to find, and keep!

[@fiddlefaddle1]

+Comic Sans MS I would suppose that the cosmic rays that alter his body also alter his dna and perhaps even if his former self was brought back there could be remnants of dna and thats why he went back to being the Thing..................good,eh?

[@SuperSongbird21]

That's a good theory - they've often used a variant of it in the comics. Plus, there were a couple of times they suggested that their powers reflect their personalities, ie Ben grew up in a tough neighbourhood where he was always trying to be the toughest, scariest guy on the block, so technically it's his own fault he turned into a rock monster.

[@Abdega]

comfortouch He will always have rock hard as and will be hard for you ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@backslash153]

I'll do an extra sin: 4,000 K is not the temperature of the sun. First: You can't really say "THE" temperature, since they're a lot of different temperatures inside and even outside the exact surface of the sun. Second: And even the lowest temperature of the sun, the surface temperature, is not around 4,000 but more around 6,000, exactly 5,778 K. And don't let me get started on that "supernova" shit in the movie...

[@TheEagle2111]

Yeah, that shit really annoyed me in the movie, was it really to hard for them to change it to 6000K and say "your as hot as the surface of the sun". Also fucking supernova, like seriously, out of all the things to choose, a fucking cosmic phenomenon that has enough power to rip apart small galaxies and create black holes.

[@rosestar1324]

All these comments tho.

[@Unethicist]

mrgeetah you are, if it is also night time.

[@thekamotodragon]

noxgta you do realize we can accurately measure the temperatures of the sun using math right.... I mean we don't have to BE there for us to know..... its the same way we know how far we are from the center of our galaxy (the black hole)...... www.ehow.com/how_8772276_calculate-average-surface-temperature-sun.html

[@empireh3x267]

The human torch meets captain America. Cap: Hey you look familiar Human Torch: Right back atcha handsome

[@kj7792]

Do you know he is single😋

[@stephenlee1108]

"Because it's ANDREA!!" That cracked me up so good XD

[@Mars.95]

Stephen Lee i had to searched thru the comments to find this and 'like' it.

[@timothyfloogle]

I don't get the reference. ..

[@definitelynottommywiseau3037]

It's Andrea from The Walking Dead.

[@leduke2797]

Stan Lee's cameos are not sins.

[@UltronPrime]

In fact you should take a sin or ten off for that

[@leduke2797]

Exactly

[@eontf2301]

Stan lee cameos are quite swaggy :-)

[@sangwalnsritawong9399]

8

[@eontf2301]

*9

[@TomboTime]

And believe it or not . . . . . the reboot is even worse.

[@TomboTime]

LaserLance125 GFS to quote the phenomenal film 'The Big Lebowski' "Well, that's just like . . . . your opinion, man."

[@bigrick3267]

+LaserLance125 GFS Yeah me too.The movie is getting all kinds of bad reviews, like people are really hating on it but I really didn't find it that bad, much better than the older ones like this.All in all it's say it's no where near the greatest superhero movie but I'd give it a solid 7/10, I still don't understand all the hate.

[@TomboTime]

see, here's why I think the reboots worse: It has ALL the same problems as the original FF movies but somehow it's even MORE boring. with all the problems of the Jessica Alba films, at LEAST they're bright and colorful, at LEAST it has a lighthearted tone, at LEAST it plays for laughs but doesn't shy away from seriousness. That is very much the attitude of the fantastic four. the new movie takes itself WAY too seriously. all the coloring has next to no saturation (aside from the neon green goop that Doom falls into), all the heroes ever do is brood and argue and sit around depressed and angsty when they SHOULD USE THEIR POWERS TO HELP PEOPLE, and ultimately much like these Alba films all the films about is a bunch of jackasses who get superpowers due to their own stupid mistakes, spend all of their time moaning about how hard their lives are and THEN at the end of the day they clean up their OWN DAMN MESS. So yes, all the same problems as these Alba films, but take away the color and lighthearted comedy for bleakness and god awfully slow pacing for a 2 hour snoozefest.

[@lucygrady2816]

+TomboTime nice rant buuuuut I couldn't be bothered to read it I guess your saying that the new fantastic 4 reboot is terrible and if that's so I agree

[@strahinjagov]

I knew the reboot was gonna suck the second I saw the trailer, so I wasn't surprised when it bombed.

[@wardenm]

Why, WHY can't a movie manage to do a decent job portraying Doom? Such a great villian!

[@ineedboostsobad]

This needs more upvotes. I'm yet to see a proper Dr. Doom. Shit they even made a better Dr. Doom in the PS3 beat-em-up Marvel vs. Capcom where he only says one-liners before the fight. THAT was even better than in any movie so far. The fuck.

[@androzani84productions85]

Explain.

[@bruser526]

Movies are generally made for everybody to justify costs, MvC is a game that while anyone can enjoy, accuracy to Doom's character is a significantly reduced factor to that point. And while I don't even know if the game was made in-house or not, I'm willing to bet the people who made it were a lot more passionate about the source material than the guys that made this thing.

[@d-brothers3112]

One of the greatest villains in the marvel universe stuck in these terrible movies

[@harlequeenchannel]

I watched a video where the KZbinr suggested that if a new fantastic four is made, is to have Victor Von Doom in it... but just as Von Doom. Than in the second or third movie, show Von Doom transformation into Doctor Doom. It does make a lot of sense, as Von Doom is such a complex character and having him be the villain in the first movie is just too rushed.

[@sergiomoney101]

13:19 I think he forgot to mention that the cop next to the cop car is dead that explosion is way to huge for him to survive.

[@123Windigo]

YO PROSHOOTER xD

[@sergiomoney101]

Windigo123 WHA??!! Lol

[@jerQCote]

I get that this movie is bad, but it still holds a place in my heart because my grandma took me to see it instead of making me do my homework when I was little.

[@Werewolf_Korra]

Chris Evans is not playing Captain America in this movie. +1

[@FelleaFish187]

After watching so many of your videos now every time I watch a movie I ramble on about how dumb some things of it is.... WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME!?!

[@ColeConCon]

You and me both

[@FallingPicturesProductions]

Considering that I normally don't watch movies unless it's a Kaiju flick or something really good in the realm of Sci-Fi/Horror, this actually got me to watch movies again for the exciting feeling of finding CinemaSins.

[@luizcastro5246]

we are all some waht infected whit his thought process :(((

[@kingnickgaming]

what is this channel doing to us :(

[@FallingPicturesProductions]

Making us think. I'll take that any day over just blindly starring at Michael Baysplostions and being awwed and oooed by the special effects and laughing at the 1-Dimensional jokes.

[@Mandalore863]

Man, I would much rather forget that Chris Evans was ever involved in these fucking movies. He's an excellent Captain America, so that's what I'll always remember him most for.

[@warwatcher91]

Hey don't worry there's a reboot coming. But look at it this way: Chris's performance as Captain America is a testament to how far he's come as an actor.

[@WilliamDoheny]

Check out How Captain America Should Have Ended. The beginning is hilarious!

[@Jakuuu]

Yeah this is what I remember when everyone says Ben Affleck will be a shit Batman, because he was in Daredevil, but it worked out for Chris Evans, so we'll see

[@soren7550]

Don't worry, at least it seems like Chris Evans doesn't even really remember these films anyway.

[@JDExists]

BulletBill96 Hell, Affleck wasn't even a terrible DD. That movie is just bad.

[@romiarkan450]

One more sin: This Johnny Storm later becomes Captain America for some reason and suddenly Fantastic Four series is gonna get rebooted soon.

[@thomasbaron5367]

and the reboot is going to kill the franchise like The Amazing Spider-Man did to the Spider-Man franchise -_-

[@Usernamesdontmatter1]

+Thomas Baron It didn't kill the franchise. The character is going to be in Avengers 3 and probably will get another reboot. Also Spiderman 3 killed the franchise. Amazing Spiderman tried to save it only for Sony to sabotage the sequel.

[@thomasbaron5367]

darkfur3 The "Amazing" Spider-Man movies sucked!

[@Usernamesdontmatter1]

Thomas Baron Nope 2 sucked. Honestly 1 was a better movie than any of the raimi films.

[@thomasbaron5367]

darkfur3 1 was ok, but I still prefer Toby MaGuire over Andrew Garfield

[@dionnacarter293]

I fucking died when he said "Top. Men"

[@darkness2121]

Do Everything Wrong With Fantastic Four 2015 when it out on DVD

[@jd2192]

darkness2121 How high do numbers go tho?

[@tennisaddict2157]

The video is gonna last like... Movie duration.

[@0215MADman]

darkness2121 Why bother asking? I bet if they had 0 people asking for it, they'd still do it, because it's a boring fucking movie.

[@anthonyj4735]

+Maju Mundur Why would anybody want to do that?

[@singingislife6449]

It's going to be with more sins than fifty shades of grey

[@Sirwest299]

Still a better movie than The Avengers.

[@masonsargent745]

Wrong

[@silverdragon122]

Please.

[@itskelvinn]

The first hour of Avengers is filled with horrible acting and cliches. The second half is something only your inner 5-year old would enjoy.

[@musicalnotextr]

While I like this movie as a guilty pleasure, I'm sorry but MARVEL'S THE AVENGERS was bettter

[@blacksage2375]

Weak Troll is Weak.

[@hiitting]

-1 sin for Chris Evans. Yes, I am a girl.

[@TakuroSpirit]

JustAPixel Pff, I'm a guy and I agree.

[@antenna_prolly]

JustAPixel Minecraft? I'm afraid I have to revoke your -1.

[@kenny9582]

Tona V. lol

[@king_big_pp]

JustAPixel Hotter in Captain America tho

[@SofianaRiana]

+Tona V. Oh come on. Really?

[@danieltaylor7993]

This is hilarious but I would have to argue in Sue's defense. When she contained Johnny's Supernova she does it not just to protect herself but the people that would ultimately be destroyed. Basically Johnny's Supernova would have destroyed most of the planet had she not surrounded it. The issue is the same as that on the bridge when her powers first manifested because she was protecting others. And one trait that the Invisible Woman has demonstrated throughout the comics is her willingness to protect others. So, that's maybe the reason she couldn't hold herself against Dooms electric strike because it was targeting her and her only. So, one could say that the reason she couldn't hold Dooms strike was a lack of mental strength not physical. She had the power to stop it but the reason behind it wasn't great enough

[@classic1971]

Ok nobody, Ben's wife or anybody would walk out onto a public street at night in a negligee, nobody..

[@Paulafan5]

They mentioned that on the commentary.

[@Bucky91702]

Walmart on the other hand....

[@gsentinel4821]

I agree, being a lifelong comic book collector and a huge FF fan, I almost walked out of the theatre at that part. Lazy writing by people who NEVER read a comic book.

[@ThatMouthyMerc]

Bens wife is a ßitch

[@RR4711]

blast from the past my mom always comments this.

[@jsqoou]

At 6:24 Jeremy mistakes Reed for Ben. Ding.

[@jasonchilado]

I noticed that too!

[@ashantirobinson7692]

Oh my god!

[@rhettgedies7467]

1:14....Stan Lee explained that the reason he named many of his characters with first and last names that start with the same letter was so that he could remember them easily XD.

[@Skyesbeautifuldream]

Don't complain to Stan Lee about that I did once and he signed my comic: To Tyler. Also I'm not allowed to call him Stan either.

[@rhettgedies7467]

I'm not complaining. I'm explaining. Tyler White

[@Skyesbeautifuldream]

I'm not complaining to you I'm just letting you now so he can sign your comic book: To my good friend Rhett, from Stan Lee, Excelsior. Also, after he takes you out for gelato he'll let you call him Stan.

[@josmargarcia7964]

Tyler White tf?

[@steeledminer616]

Tyler White Referencing Big Bang Theory ftw!

[@crisscrossam]

7:35 this is the only sin i disagree with. Stan Lee cameos should earn a like on the like counter also RIP Stan Lee

[@AlejandroDeLaRosa05]

Loved the family Guy reference at the end XD

[@morerobotwarscontent1476]

that might make more sense. I tend to not watch the bits at the end so didn't see it.

[@morerobotwarscontent1476]

Yeah sorry about that. I was wrong.

[@morerobotwarscontent1476]

I've seen alot of people on the internet and real life think the top men thing was made by family guy and it just makes me so mad. I hope you can accept my apology.

[@whisperienced]

Calum Hay That's the first ever apology on the internet. Congratulations sir, you are a pioneer.

[@ericcastillo9424]

Does anyone else was waiting for a Kool Aid reference?

[@jeffreyriley8742]

There needs to be a "counter Cinema Sins" site that takes all Cinema Sins videos and comes up with reasons why all the sins in a movie aren't sins.

[@JCB___]

Wow.... Just wow

[@Sahasrahla.]

A lot of the sins are just personal, subjective gripes though so half of those videos would just be somebody going "Nuh uh!"

[@generico366]

That'd be like making a website about why jokes aren't funny.

[@jeffreyriley8742]

Bas van de Kleut No, it would be funny. It wouldn't just be contradiction.

[@mettatonex7221]

They did. It's called KZbin.

[@honjabee]

Come on CinamaSins everyone knows that force fields go hand-in-hand with invisibility! It's one power lol

[@RussoolMishir]

So why can't Jean go invisible?

[@rosestar1324]

Yeah that's what I was thinking. And hey, doesn't Susan just make invisible fields with her mind that she can shape around her to turn her invisible. That's why in the comics you don't see them unless being emphasized?

[@luizcastro5246]

rosestar1324 bro if you block light you wont go invisibru you will actually look black because you are blocking the light behind you to the person in front of you

[@TheDragon9157]

i am a man actually, you would look completely white and probably blind everyone. if the field absorbs light and doesnt let it out then she wouldnt be able to see. therefore, we can only assume that the powers are completely unrelated

[@crappyusername69]

i am a man It is a good thing she doesn't block light to turn invisible, the fields bend the light to let you see what is behind her when looking at her. Making her appear invisible.

[@RetroTARDIS]

12:30 you realise that wasn't. flight failure... he sent a fireball up to try and trick the missle and turned off his own powers to try to stay hidden

[@thepickaxetv5582]

Reed got stretchy powers because he is ingenuitive and able to stretch or adapt to most situations. Sue is good at hiding her emotions and blocking them out. So she gets invisibility and force fields. Ben is a tough guy, rock is tough, so he gets rock. Johnny is a hothead, so he gets fire. Their powers are based on personality traits. I just blew your mind.

[@justbny9278]

the pickaxe tv no you didn't.

[@zakl940]

No you didn't these are very easy to make connections. Good try though.

[@spyharms6168]

You know what's really sad? That I came to this video to see the BEST Fantastic 4 film. It hurts man. It hurts.

[@Supsupwassupshorty]

If these keep getting longer we will get 30 min long video's by the end of the year. I wouldn't mind at all to be honest

[@SuperHothead14]

Or MST3K style cinima sins where he puts the whole movie up and just riffs through it.

[@StupidMarioBros1Fan]

Atleast they'll be able to fit really shitty movies in one video, like the Super Mario Bros movie. I want a half hour long cinema sins, though it might break the sin counter.

[@anoobys]

20-30 Minute Cinema Sins videos would be awesome. . . so they can point out more sins. Better than 4-6 minutes videos.

[@StupidMarioBros1Fan]

SuperHothead14 While that would be awesome, not sure how that would work in terms of copyright because it'd be the full movie and even though they'd be talking over it, you would still be watch a full free movie. I mean they've had to re-upload a few of their videos now, posting the whole movie wouldn't last that long. :P

[@krsgator]

Or a live-stream pointing things out?

[@seriouswithdaysoff]

Ok but I love Stan Lee's appearance in this movie because he was an actual character and he looked like the person he was playing.

[@TheSaltyRice]

I still imagine that this movie takes place between Capt America and The Avengers and is about Steve Rogers and his stupid adventures in our time.

[@RIDDICK0911]

What...

[@bangdingow396]

RIDDICK0911 The actor Chris Evans played Johnny Storm in both of Fox's FF movies, and he also has a six-picture contract with the marvel cinematic universe portraying Captain America.

[@RIDDICK0911]

meddy1100 thx Captain O, but that comment still makes no sense.

[@TheSaltyRice]

RIDDICK0911 how does it make no sense? Capt. America wakes up in our time and disguises himself as Johnny Storm and he experience stupid shit with the F4 until Nick Fury calls him for the Avengers.

[@RIDDICK0911]

Hans Gruber you'd make a great comic writer in 60s.

[@Synnamon27]

I don't think you stretched any of these sins. You really saw through this movie and was on fire throughout the entire video. Not a thing wrong with this upload.

[@iluvlost09]

Clever.

[@HappyStonerComedy]

Brilliant :) The thing about this comment is that its so far stretched that it burns truth. Wait...nah I don't think that works whatever I tried lol

[@SilentTree12]

tenoutaten

[@BrandonDecamillo229]

johnny storm got two powers as well fire and flight

[@hermaeusmora2945]

That's what i thought but they don't seem to be separate because he can't fly when the fire is turned off.

[@BrandonDecamillo229]

good point, never thought of that

[@rosestar1324]

Yeah. I think he just uses fire to fly and doesn't necessarily have the power of flight like what Hermaeus said. Heat rises.

[@hermaeusmora2945]

rosestar1324 Is that how he flies, heat rises? I've wondered for years how fire makes him fly!

[@mstrainjr]

Hermaeus Mora Through the power of FICTION.

[@chananabips7009]

Stan Lee's cameo here is like that FedEx cameo HAHAHA

[@bunbacheso]

Side note: Ioan Gruffud (who played Reed) is FOINE. I just think, with all the comments on Jessica Alba's looks, I may as well mention Ioan. Haha!

[@chuckwest39]

More movies The scary movie franchise Kick ass 2 The Star Wars franchise Grease Saen of the dead Hot fuzz Paul The worlds end The guard Ice age Ice age 2 Ice age 3 Ice age 4 Night at the museum 1 and 2 Home alone franchise The mr bean movie Open season 1 2 and 3 How 2 train ya dragon Jumanji And finally over the hedge And by the way I am now a where that breaking bad is a TV show now don't judge me

[@TsundereSupreme]

He doesn't do animated movies. Frozen was an exception.

[@austinlam9121]

Please do Grease, cinemasins!

[@MechanicalPie]

Parody movies are kinda self explanatory

[@kaldur11]

Lol the Mr. Bean Movie you can't do a sin on that its suppose to be stupid.

[@ScyrousFX]

8:33 Invalid. People can write with their eyes closed, so not being able to see what he's writing doesn't mean he can't write it down all the way over there.

[@LlorracTN]

I was thinking that

[@jackryan9183]

I also thought that..

[@ScyrousFX]

mrgeetah I don't think he was, to be honest.

[@jeffdaman6969]

But the scene was stupid. Why would he stand that close if he can stretch out his limbs. Staying back far enough to see the entire board and stretch your arms forward instead of sideways would have been smarter.

[@rosestar1324]

jeffzalonka yeah

[@HeresorLegacy]

0:40 is actually really considerate of the comics, since in one issue the Watcher explains the powers of the F4 to be determined by their character traits, and presents an alternate universe where they have different powers, because their traits were differently interpreted.

[@octogigas]

You know, this movie was bad, but at least it didn't have a Reed Richards who looks like a 20-year-old, a Johnny Storm who's reduced to being a token black guy, a Thing played by BILLY FREAKIN' ELLIOT, or a Doctor Doom played by that gay guy from The Sorcerer's Apprentice. Good GOD, the reboot is gonna suck.

[@TheKeyser94]

Why the hell you are bitching about Johnny Storm being black, maybe you aren't one of the people that don't read the Miles Morales Spiderman comics, and hello, in THE ULTIMATE FANTASTIC FOUR they look like twenty something years old.

[@BETMARKonTube]

No seriously (I didn't know those new cast informations), what is this new trend of 'blacking' the characters? Nick Fury (first in the comic), Kingpin, Alicia (Ben Grimm's girlfriend) and Electro in the movies. Green Lantern and Aqualad in the animations... *WAIT!* I know what are you gonna say about the last two and I have a looooong nerd answer, so talk about it at your own risk. And I have some suspect about the animated Lex Luthor too... he's not black, but kind-ish. Anyway! When somebody whine about a bad/weird/pointless adaptation everybody agree, EXCEPT if they talks about black or dead people. Because everybody is scared about what the Others can say (and that's the ONLY case on the net, because usually people answer 'I don't care what you think'). So *let me be honest and try to do the same* for once, ok? Why? If they want to add some black dudes in the stories (for 'oh, my God, we are not racist at all, see?' reasons), why they just don't create some new black guys, instead of steal the place of already existing ones? "They Took Our Jobs!" (*quote. Get the joke) -BETMARK-

[@GrizzlyCowify]

***** My cousins are mixed, and I know plenty of other mixed folks. Trust me, half-black, half-white people can look white, black, somewhere in between, or just a difference race altogether. Take President Barack Obama for example: if nobody mentioned that President Obama was half-white, everybody would think he was just black (probably helps that he seems to identify as just black instead of mixed). Genetics is funny like that. BETMARKonTube The "blackening" of characters is just that comic book authors decided they want to be more inclusive and thought it strange with all these light skinned motherfuckers walking with the people of color sitting in the background. I don't see why it would bother you one way or the other. There is already a precedent in comic books for there to be multiple versions of characters, characters wearing other characters' costumes, and/or otherwise taking a previous established character's name. Happens all the time, especially with the reboots and stuff. Why does it matter when one of the thing they change is the race or sex of the character? For example, you had four white Green Lanterns. That is three characters who share nothing in common with the original Green Lantern except the name and ring. People don't whine about them, so why do you complain about John Stewart, the fourth Green Lantern? Nick Fury was turned black because one of the artists (or whatever) thought Samuel L. Jackson was cool and wanted to pay homage to him. Truth be told, the only reason Ultimate Nick Fury seeped back into the non-Ultimate Marvel universe is because Avengers is really popular, and Marvel wants to draw in that crowd by using Samuel L. Fury's iconic mug. For the reason why they used the Ultimate version of Nick Fury, it is because Marvel signed a contract a while ago with SLJ that said he would portray Nick Fury in any movie in exchange for SLJ not suing them for his using likeness without his permission. Why do comic book authors and people who adapt these characters change the race of characters from time to time and not use pre-existing characters? Easy. A lot of pre-existing PoC characters iconic enough. Plus, it is a lose-lose situation; people who whine about writers creating PoC versions of the heroes will also whine if you use an existing PoC character (for example, you whining about John Stewart). Though, I was kind of sad that some of the more well-known and popular black comic book heroes like Black Panther wasn't included in the Avengers movie. I haven't seen the latest X-Men movie, but the others severely underutilized Storm (also, miscasted her horribly). It'd be cool if some Milestone Comics characters got some movies of their own. Not likely to happen since, other than Static, they don't have enough name recognition to draw a movie audience like Batman or Superman.

[@BETMARKonTube]

GrizzlyCowify Oh yeah! A smart one. (serious) First of all, I whine about EVERITHING different. They say "it's a reboot", "it's an adaptation", "it's an another universe"... screw them! I have nothing against change something for the sake of the time the new version is made. If you don't want to make a movie set in the '70 you have 2 choices: show the hero as an old man, or a reboot. That's fine. But I whine when they switch the race, the sex, the whatever! "hey, that's an another universe, it's a reboot. What's the big deal if Fury is black?" So why not a Na-vi, or an eFFing Autobot? I think they would have something to complain in that case and I could answer the same way they answered me. But back to us. Since you proved to be a person who knows what he's talking about I will explain my boring point :) About Nick Fury. Nope, I see the first 'dark skinned' one (I'm not sure about the race) years before Samuel Motherfuckin Jackson. He still had his striped hairstyle. Then, after the movie version, Samuel Jackson himself wanted that the comics version was based on him. (this last one is a rumor, but I think is more than possible) And about the Lanterns. I have to admit that thing been objectively distorted from my point of view, because in my country I saw the tv serie *The Batman* before the Justice League, so I thought the original cast was the one in Batman. In those last episodes there was Hawkman and Hal Jordan, instead of Hawkgirl and John. So I thought: "of course. Because no black and no girl is not a real team." I was wrong, but I think the concept is the same. If we are all alike and race doesn't metter... why not Hal? He was the real first Green Lantern. And belive me, if the first G.L. was John and they switched for any other Lantern I would be pissed the same way. The thing is that I'm so much not racist that I'm pissed by the hypocrisy of the people who feel the need to add a black character in any single group since the '70! And usually he's the nerd, the smart one. (John is not the case) We are all the same, but until people will *force* black characters where they're not needed, they will keep the idea that those are *a race*. "See? We changed Fury with an african-american. Because we're not racist and we don't care if he's black." So, why did you do that? If it's the *same* why did you changed his race? Why not a native? Because we've already stopped to fight with the native's feelings. Because they stopped to whine about the past and because the native *knows* that nobody will never discriminate them anymore. Au contraire, people feel guilty with them. So we don't need to put natives in roles that used to be for white, black, chinese, whatever people. Anyway, back to the topic: for Green lantern I was wrong, but not for Aqualad. The original was Garth and he was white (once again), then they added (in the comic) an afro one, Kaldur'ahm. Both was ok for me and in the tv-serie Young Justice I just *loved* that character. He was so calm and smart. He's voice was great and they cut of that dicutible afro style. I almost forgot that I usually prefere the original one, when... in an episode he meet Garth and they teased me with a joke like (I don't remember it) "Have you ever thought if it was you the one chosed to be Aqualad?" "Not for a second" "Me neither" "hahahaha" -__-) I did. Anyway, I really liked him, so I can forgive him for this low punch. (just for this time) And to end this megapost: yes dammit! I know, right? There are a LOT of other *existing* black characters out there and (as I said) they can even create as many new as they want. Use them! And you don't have to fit just one for group/team/movie. Feel free to chose any kind of race like there are *no races!* And soon or later the russian characters will stop to talk with a strong accent just to clarify they are russian (yes, I'm talking to you Natasha! Super spy with all the skills for infiltration except to impress someone who's not russian). And a french character who can speak english without use a french word in every sentence (because he's french and you must know it). ...I was joking about the last 2, but still is a thing who make you think ;) -BETMARK-

[@slimekingmike8691]

+BETMARKonTube The reason why they adapt characters who are pre-established as white into people of colour, is that the roster of heroes who are not white don't get nearly as much exposure as the white characters. There is (unfortunately) more demand for popular figures such as Spiderman or Captain America, than Black Panther or Falcon. So to compensate for the racial imbalance in the roster of more widely popular characters, they decide to diversify it. The same goes for changing characters' gender, or sexual orientation. I myself think that the film and comic industries are creatively bankrupt what with endless reboots, sequels/prequels and adaptations, rather than producing and/or showcasing new content. I believe that it is far better to create lots of new characters that more widely represent society and the world at large than to repeat the same stuff, but with minor changes. But for the time being, making alterations to canon in order to have more representation is still a good thing to have in the meanwhile, before we get to throw all the "Troy from Marketing" types (who are relentlessly afraid of anything original or daring being made) out from their office windows.

[@MixedNutsProductions]

For the third time on a video of yours, the term "pan" refers to the camera moving left and right. You cannot "pan up." The correct terminology at 4:29 you're looking for is "tilt up."

[@MixedNutsProductions]

That's not correct professional filmmaking/video/television terminology. A pan is always referred to the horizontal plane where tilt is the vertical plane. Changing "magnification" doesn't even make sense. If you mean changing focal length, that has nothing to do with panning or tilting. For a series that makes it on nitpicking every detail of "sins" from a movie, it should get the terminology correct. www.videomaker.com/article/14221-camera-movement-techniques-tilt-pan-zoom-pedestal-dolly-and-truck

[@haloreachlegend3]

Okay, Okay. Shut up. The point is that the cameraman should have pa- tilted up at 4:30

[@bigfoot5720]

That's what your mom tells me whenever I record our love making. I know you always love it when I send you the videos we make, but is it ok if I keep the latest one? It's a little bit of a pain to ship them you over in Dumbassistan.

[@MrXerothor]

Mixed Nuts Productions - Living in 8 Bits Actually, you're half right. Panning up is the camera simply moving upwards, whereas tilting up is... well tilting upwards.

[@MixedNutsProductions]

Xerothor There is no half right. On professional film sets and television productions, the term panning is used for the horizontal plane where tilting is for the vertical. It is standard knowledge amongst any professional. Saying "pan up" is incorrect terminology and a dead giveaway of an amateur. The main point at hand is this series is all about nitpicking the tiniest, even arguably petty details, but on multiple occasions have used incorrect terminology.

[@hardforyoutoswallow]

Another huge sin for anyone who can read Russian is the last shot of the cargo ship which says exactly this "A tip of a toe, Latveria"

[@hardforyoutoswallow]

instead of "Towhead"

[@RIDDICK0911]

It's US, they're assholes to every onther nation cuz democracy.

[@HolyMuscleOfLove]

"why does Marvel hate epileptics?" It takes me just a few seconds of video to laught hard, with this dude...

[@TheSlickkEffect123]

"The fingers you have used to dial, are too fat" xD I lost it there

[@aznpwnerp]

So what happens if the Fantastic 4 have to team up with the Avengers? Does Capt. America gain fire powers?

[@smjai477]

They're rebooting Fantastic Four

[@Wastingsometimehere]

"That's a rude question to ask women." You want T-Shirt ideas, print that shit.

[@kadajkortez6414]

Did anyone else get the Scott pilgrim at the end 🤣🤣 cinema sins you are class👏

[@TheShadowParliament]

I still don't know why Marvel forced out the sequel when the original was rubbish in its own right.

[@JasonICECarson]

I fail to see how the first FF movie was rubbish. Did it NOT follow the source material? Honestly, I don't know why people hate on FF and FF:ROTSS when we all know the reboot is the rubbish pile of the franchise. Seriously... Johnny Storm is black, Sue Storm is adopted, the cast being too young, and Dr. Doom (who's name isn't even Victor Von Doom) is reduced to being an angry blogger? Nothing screams "Super Villain" like an Internet Troll. Btw, I'm not trolling... I'm just making a point.

[@sh0rtaznant]

Jason Carson yeah, and everyone knows the quality of a movie is directly correlated with how much it follows the source material and has nothing to do with the directing, acting, writing, etc... quit fanboying and think about it objectively. both FF movies were shit. i thought they were cool as a kid, but after watching them both recently, it was obvious how terrible they were. it was a cliche orgy under a blanket of shitty directing and casting. the reboot is undoubtedly a better MOVIE, regardless of source material accuracy.

[@JasonICECarson]

sh0rtaznant Then consider me "the doubted", because I don't see the reboot as being better... and that's thinking about it "objectively" as you put it. Yes, I may be "fanboying" but at least those movies made sense. I watch a movie to get lost in the world being set before me, I'm not a cynical asshole who has to find something wrong with just about everything. If you're too busy nit-picking a movie to death for flaws, why bother paying money you know damn well you're not going to enjoy in the first place?

[@sh0rtaznant]

Jason Carson well like i said, it was a kid when i watched it, so that's why i paid money... and i never said i rewatched it with the mindset "ok fuck this movie." i wanted to see what it was like after all these years, and that's when i noticed it was horseshit. i like movies a lot and can easily be entertained by crappy movies, but this franchise was just SO bad. you have to be a real fanboy or have really low standards to not be annoyed by a movie with cliches every 3 minutes. it doesnt make someone a "cynical asshole" to have standards. like seriously, after every scene, i thought "wow that was terrible." most people today would have that reaction too. and no, those movies didn't "make sense." you just don't pay attention to detail if they made any sense to you because so much of it was SO bad that it DIDNT make sense. this youtube video points out all the shit that didn't make sense. just off the top of my mind: when doom get his powers and goes to take revenge, the lights in the parking garage flicker as one of the company board members tries to open his car. his immediate reaction is to suspiciously wander around looking for the cause of the flickering lights? wtf. no one does that. then he sees a dark figure in the distance and immediately recognizes it's doom. he acts all frightened by doom and immediately does a 180 by talking shit to him. wtf? then doom blasts a HOLE in his chest with electricity? yeah, makes sense. and that's just one nonsensical scene out of many..

[@DJYungHoxha]

Jason Carson concerning the connection between source material and the quality of the movie, i will remind you of the Christopher Nolan Batman-Series. He didn't stick to the comments very much and they are still good movies (for a superhero-comicbook movie that is)

[@CBrown]

People are still flipping out about Human Torch being changed to a black guy? Is it because people are racist or because they'd rather not see their favorite childhood characters changed? The only valid argument I see when this topic comes up is that it would be better if Marvel made new [ethnic] characters rather than changing existing ones. You know what I say to that? Great fucking idea and I'm not being sarcastic. That would be fantastic. You know what the problem is though? This isn't the 60's, 70's, 80's, or early 90's. The characters we're getting movies for are characters that are popular and worth having movies being made for thanks to decades of exposure. It's not that easy to just create a new character and bank on it. Look at Hancock. Not the best movie but a decent concept. Something like that fails, we never see it again. Something like Spiderman fails, just reboot it. The fanbase is still there. It makes much more sense from a business standpoint to just change the ethnicity of your characters than make a new one. On that note though, why does it even matter? For someone like Bruce Wayne I could understand. It's a little difficult to explain away how black kid would be raised in such a wealthy family during that particular period but Human Torch? For the most part he's just a dude who was in the right place at the right time. You can just as easily explain the family relation with Sue Storm with adoption. It's really not that big a deal. They've been rehashing origin stories for decades, why is it such a problem now? Oh right, because he's black.

[@JasonICECarson]

If that's the case, then maybe Hollywood should cast a white actor for the role of Black Panther if you're ok with drastic change? Johnny Storm/Human Torch is an iconic character. We know he's white because of how the creators of the FF drew the character in the comic books. I could understand if they were using the Ultimates version of FF, but as I recall, the Ultimates version of Johnny Storm/Human Torch is still white. It's about staying close to the source material your character(s) is/are based off of... that being said, I'm not even really flipping out over black Torch. The villain in the reboot is nothing but an angry blogger. Serious shit is going down in the reboot thanks to the villain being an internet troll!

[@CBrown]

If they want to explain away how a white dude is the king of an African village full of black people, and it make sense, fine. Where's all the anger about Nick Fury? Because it's that way in the [ultimate] comics? Is that all it takes to satisfy people? Because writers and artists have done tons of things in comics that have pissed people off. All this boils down to is what you, as an individual prefers, and you trying to justify it however possible. The "source material" changes all the fucking time but is it really that big a deal? They took liberties with the TASM movies. They took liberties with Iron Man. They took liberties with the Chitauri in Avengers. They took liberties with Ultron. No one seems to care about that. Why the anger about this?

[@llshmoolj7744]

I think it would be fine, except for the fact that Johnny is supposed to Sue's brother, who is portrayed by a white actress. If they say he's adopted, I'll be okay with it.

[@CBrown]

Adoption is what I expect. They might have it where both were adopted by the Storms. Interracial parents is also a possibility.

[@llshmoolj7744]

***** Ahh, gotcha.

[@roamingbear]

+1 sin: 4000 Kelvin is NOT the temperature of the Sun. Inside the Sun the temperature is millions degrees. And on the surface it is about 5800 K - still a lot higher than 4000 K

[@marcdoesmusics]

Prime no...something you learn in school, ever been there?

[@rodmorgan520]

Marc Anthony Orozco ...ever heard of the simpsons? or the internet? or this youtube channel;?

[@marcdoesmusics]

Yes. Still doesn't really constitute that phrase

[@Dylannem]

Marc Anthony Orozco This channel makes references to that phrase which references Simpsons. He said Nerd not because he was making fun of the guy but because he was referring the phrase which is a joke which evidently flew right over your head.

[@prime7285]

It's a joke ever done that before?Why so serious?

[@coralineparmentierpianist]

6:42 "That's not how fire works. This is from The Desolation of Smaug School of fire protection" HAHAHA

[@xcinsationalx]

I don't know why I never realized this before but Sue from the Fantastic Four and Violet from the Incredibles have the same exact powers. I wonder if having invisibility just automatically means you get force fields powers as well lol.

[@fury1031]

Uh, ALL of The Incredibles are based on The Fantastic Four. Elastigirl is Mr. Fantastic, Violet is Invisible Girl, and Mr. Incredible is mostly similar to The Thing. Dash is the odd man out on super-power similarities, but his personality is similar to The Human Torch with both of them being hot heads.

[@ardenaudreyarji]

fury1031 They did Frozone (exact opposite of Johnny Storm).

[@imkluu]

fury1031 And their baby is like Franklin, even more powerful than all of them put together.

[@ardenaudreyarji]

imkluu And The Incredibles was the movie the Fantastic Four deserved. I bet if Pixar did Fantastic Four, it would've been 10000x better than this crap.

[@imkluu]

I would definately go see and have wanted antoher Incredibles movie. I don't know why Pixar has let that one jsut sit there for so long.

[@FacelessOfficial1]

fuck...the Torch is the dude that plays captain america?? AND I'M FIGURING THIS OUT RIGHT NOW??? (one sin for me dude)

[@TheAlphaFilmz]

At 6:25 you said Johnny and Ben but it was Johnny and Reed. Even Cinema Sins has sins

[@FastGardenGnome38]

Havent seen their cinemasins sins video? They totaly agree with that

[@TheAlphaFilmz]

henrik høegh no I haven't but I will now lol

[@Kittymouth]

The Scott Pilgrim reference in the end-snippets-thing was my favorite part of the whole review.

[@silklavender]

Why does this remind me of that movie Incredibles. Like elastigirl has Reed’s powers (stretch) violet has the shield and invisibility and other stuff

[@yochill1]

here is a good question why the thing have 4 fingers

[@GreenDayforLife14]

You should do a cinema sins on a movie musical.. I feel like that'd be funny

[@MrSleepygrizzly]

Then there would have the be a Cinema Sins video on THAT

[@ashleytuchin7693]

He did Everything Wrong With Moulin Rouge a little while ago.

[@kenisu-of-dragons5766]

he did les miserable

[@babyboydaz]

Explaining the Fantastic Four characters: Mozzarella stick Water A chili Kentucky fried chicken A lovely and delicious meal

[@Mistran5lation]

If you think the beginning is rushed in the movie, you should see the comic books. It randomly starts halfway through the action with all the main characters just running to a space center and taking off in a rocket. No explanation is ever given as to why four friends spontaneously decided to go take a rocket joy-ride.

[@nicholasbuckley8470]

I think the reason they give is because otherwise the communists would get their first or some shit like that.

[@stollinroned5090]

Nicholas Buckley It's always the communists isn't it?

[@nicholasbuckley8470]

yeah it was always the communists in the comics back in those days

[@AaronDebski]

What? no mention that the Human Torch is Captain America?

[@venomnbk3326]

To be fair Chris Evans is epic as Cap.

[@SoupSnipe]

He did when he made the joke about Capt America being in a movie with the fantastic four...it was a subtle joke

[@ronpetersen2317]

SoupSnipe Unfortunately the internet doesn't do subtle so they missed it.

[@MikeyTheFool]

4:57

[@SamuelFrancisHayes]

He did mention that. But that would be a better sin for the Cap movie which I assume he made and mentioned.

[@SugarSyrupQueen]

So Andrea left a literal rock to get with the Governor. I don't know which is worse.

[@maxhydekyle2425]

Like 6 years later

[@mega7070]

I can't believe you didn't sin the fact that they go from getting hit by a storm in space to *immediately* being on earth with no explanation of what happened at all. 😂

[@davidcoyle6287]

Can we take a moment to realize the very first Marvel series ended up as one of the worst Marvel movies through completely avoidable reasons? Is that really the treatment they deserved? This couldn't have been worse if they decided to make Mole Man the villain.

[@MrCaseySasaki]

Having Mole Man as the first villain would most likely involve ACTUAL adventure. And we can't have that in our Fantastic Four Movie. Nope, just stay in New York the whole fucking time like this is some kind of shitty sitcom with superpowers. The most interesting element of any Fantastic Four story for me involves them exploring some kind of unknown. And that unknown is usually a place we've never seen before. For some reason the movies are all about the superpowers and ONE boring urban location. How many FF movies need to be made before they do anything remotely interesting? Like, say, traveling to other universes or dimensions? I'm calling it now, the reboot will take place entirely on Earth and we'll be lucky to leave the United States at all.

[@davidcoyle6287]

Casey Sasaki With the reboot on the way, I can only pray they involve Galactus and actually make it Galactus. I don't care if they thought his costume is cheesy, it's GALACTUS. The most powerful villain in the Marvel Universe. He EATS PLANETS. I think that supersedes the outfit in terms of good villains for a FF reboot. But I think in terms of reboots we have about as much chance of that as getting a good Hulk movie with Fin Fang Foom. Awesome villain, but Hollywood would ruin it in some way.

[@MrCaseySasaki]

David Coyle Both villains (Galactus and Fang Foom) can work right away for a reboot if the FF left Earth (say, in some kind of teleportation accident) and encountered them elsewhere. I'd personally start with Fang Foom and save Galactus for a third movie. Don't want to blow your load to soon and not be able to top it for a sequel. Galactus should be handled like Thanos in the cinematic universe. LOTS of buildup before he actually shows. I know the original stories concerned Earth, but I'm so tired of the 'Earth is in danger' bullshit. It's played out, and the FF should be BIGGER than that. They can always come back later after their badass adventures in space. Imagine a team of ordinary humans disappearing for decades at a time, only to return as this badass team of super-powered adventures with knowledge of alien species and such. Come on, don't tell me that doesn't sound exciting. Seriously, no more Earth! Let's do something else. There's so much you can do with a family of adventurers lost in space, or another dimension, or whatever. Entire universes of possibility were opened by the comics. We're three FF movies in and we're STILL ON EARTH!

[@davidcoyle6287]

Casey Sasaki I'm hoping the upcoming Venom movie doesn't play out like Spiderman 3. From what I understand, Parker got the black suit from another dimension and used it for quite some time before it moved on to Eddie Brock. It would also be interesting if they worked in Cletus Kasady/Carnage or Brock's battle with cancer since Venom is the focus of the film.

[@MrCaseySasaki]

David Coyle I just saw the FF reboot trailer and it looks like they travel to another dimension where they get their powers so...hey, I'm happy. On the Venom thing, yeah, the cancer angle would be an easy way to garner audience sympathy toward Brock. Unless they're going for a straight up VILLAIN as the main character. Which would be interesting if they pulled it off. Carnage is perfect for a standalone Venom movie. He's the absolute simplest way I could think of to create a BAD VS WORSE story structure. And since they're both symbiotes, it's not like it would be difficult to write him in. If they turn Venom into a toothless good guy though, like they did with Godzilla, I won't even bother with it.

[@killer2403]

I am playing Human Torch in Marvel Heroes 2015.

[@chrisisaplayer5313]

Can't wait😎

[@theultimatejobbersamizayn2782]

No, you not Iron Man. You're playing Iron Man

[@tuttuti123]

You are going to get burnt. And your suit will melt.

[@GoldenProxyy]

Hariz Izzudin I'm going to assume he has heat proof armour. Seems like a stupid thing to leave out.

[@01superchunk66]

wow, this is a show of how popular cinema sins are, this video was uploaded less than 10 minutes ago and theres already more than 20 comments lol

[@karlzone2]

Looking at subscription numbers accomplishes the same thing. :P

[@Schiebelini]

And now I know why. Because it's ANDREA!! RUN!!!! Hahaha still the best one XD

[@SavvasConstantin]

invisible naked Jessica Alba ...Movie Sin Counter:69...yeap coincidence

[@yetiman7555]

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