Cinematic Excrement: Episode 84 - Fantastic Four/Rise of the Silver Surfer

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[@masonallen3961]

I wish Michael Chiklis could've gotten the chance to play The Thing in a good Fantastic Four movie. He deserves it.

[@ursaminor9780]

Tyler Hill Same. I think these movies are dumb but fun mostly, but Chiklis is one of the things I found to be truly fantastic (pun absolutely intended)

[@carlbloke8797]

Agreed. I hope he can come back in the MCU as thing like JK Simmons did as J Jonah Jameson

[@markiangooley]

A friend went to high school with him and says he’s an uncommonly nice guy. So yeah

[@theunwelcome]

if he hasn't retired, there's still time, he's 60 now but it could work

[@Achillez098]

"It looks too real, it looks too painful. Can you be prettier when you cry? Cry pretty, Jessica. Don't do that thing with your face, just make it flat. We can just CGI the tears in" I......I don't........I can't even......Why did........What kind of....... I'm sorry, I need to lie down for a minute, that quote was too much for me to handle.

[@ambskater97]

You can actually feel the fedora tip as those words were read.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

I lost it at 'CGI TEARS'. So were the same as 'CGI NOSE BLEED'?

[@coffeebeans5460]

He and George Lucas must be close friends.

[@nathaniellevesque2782]

If Stanley Kubrick or Alfred Hitchcock heard him telling an actress give no emotion, I'm pretty sure they would have ripped Story's throat out.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

Nathaniel Levesque He would have done it as the theme song to his show would play.

[@jazzyjazz9643]

You know what the best Fantastic 4 movie was? The Incredibles.

[@MissBarker93]

Oh my gosh, your icon. XD

[@jazzyjazz9643]

Haha, yep, it's pretty silly. Edit: Just realized we have the same icon, lol.

[@victorhernandez8723]

srbarkerchan Ginga Nagareboshi Gin.

[@justyouraveragegeek548]

Good job on noticing that Sherlock

[@MilesRobinson2001]

Yes! Incredibles way better

[@justinriley]

I know that these movies are flawed, but after seeing Fant4stic, I have a new appreciation for them.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

That's what I felt as well.

[@LARKXHIN]

at least 94 and 04 kept the spirit of the characters... admittedly, I like 15 more than sikver surfer.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

M Lkš To be fair, 15 takes the spirit of what I believe is the Ultimate version of the series which does have the crew as young teens/ young adults but that version was a lot more eventful and enjoyable. Everything about 15 seems like Trenk was making the sequel to his own movie than anything that was FF related, even in the alt versions.

[@tomhur1]

Yeah. They aren't very good but at least they FELT like Fantastic 4 movies.

[@razkable]

without fantastic 4 we don't get x men avengers or one piece...these heroes deserve more props and a better film

[@mnirwin5112]

16:20 "So you regret trusting the superheroes who perform good deeds on a daily basis and are actively helping you to save the planet ... but you're willing to trust the murderous psychopath." Welcome to military intelligence.

[@dwibs93]

The only explanation I can think of for General Dumbass is that he’s pissed at Reed for blowing him off for his wedding so he’s deliberately ignoring him out of spite

[@leastlikedcritic7529]

at least the 2005 and 2007 sequel felt like Fantastic Four films, unlike the 2015 film which was trying to be a Scanners wannabe

[@munromister777]

To me, the difference is that the 2005 and 2007 films were trying to be the 616 F4, while the 2015 version was trying to be the Ultimate F4.

[@MilesRobinson2001]

2005's fantastic four is the worst and even the sequel rise of silver surfer and 2015 film.

[@SteveCrafts2k]

@@MilesRobinson2001 no. Fantastic 4 is inherently campy, and so it made sense that the movies too would be campy...too campy. Fan4stic is like the early 2000s movies: trying to be dark and edgy. So, it seems to me like you're bandwagoning.

[@missmangas7298]

At least, in the 2005 movie there was a few action scenes and not peoples talking in dark rooms like in Fanborestics X) Also, the characters are a bit developped and likable especially Ben in the first one.

[@razkable]

i liked both films actually...wish there was a third one...with this main 5 cast...

[@nitromagilou597]

Oh, God. I do NOT wanna see how a Fantastic Four movie would turn out if directed by Raja Gosnell. **shivers**

[@CAMarino92]

Thank God we don't have to see that.

[@victorhernandez8723]

Matthew Cool Who's Raja Gosnell?

[@nitromagilou597]

+Victor Hernandez Director that made Beverly Hills Chihuahua, Big Momma's House, both live-action Scooby-Doo movies, and the live-action Smurf movies.

[@thema1998]

Matthew Cool What a terrible track record!

[@GabyGeorge1996]

The Misunderstood Assassin yeah, but to be fair James Gunn (yes, THAT James Gunn) wrote the screenplays for both live action Scooby doo films, so if nothing else one could argue that they were good warm-ups for GOTG

[@erikdaniels0n]

I remember reading that Peyton Reed had a pitch for a Fantastic Four movie that would have been set in the 1960s and basically been a direct adaptation of the first few Fantastic Four comics. He apparently even designed a mock up poster for the movie that he included in his pitch that was just a recreation of the cover of Fantastic Four #1

[@AmishParadise27]

My friend's sister was an extra in the wedding scene in Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer.

[@l.tc.5032]

AmishParadise27 (AKA: Tyler) oh cool.

[@3Guys1Video]

wow

[@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943]

AmishParadise27 (AKA: Tyler) I apologize on behalf of your family.

[@3Guys1Video]

.3.

[@AmishParadise27]

It wasn't my family it was my friend's family.

[@retron99]

Sue:"I still can't believe you made me do that!" Smeg: Neither can I! What was the fucking point? Fanservice, Sean. Fanservice.

[@The3ninjakids]

The Stan Lee cameo in Rise of the Silver Surfer has to be my favorite of his Marvel movie cameos.

[@OverlyPositiveFanboy]

It's also taken straight from the comics. Stan Lee and Jack Kirby tried to attend Reed and Sue's wedding, only to get turned away by Nick Fury.

[@MelBrooksFan78]

The way you described Human Torch in the first film, that kind of reminded me of Robin in "Batman & Robin."

[@TishaMae]

Actually in the second movie the actor playing Doom couldn't always be there due to his shooting schedule on his tv show. When he is in shadow and masked, it is actually a standin

[@erichfiedler1481]

At least we have some comfort knowing that the MCU's Fantastic Four will be different by being a period piece, and if the live-action One Piece is any indication, the stretchy powers of Reed Richards (played by Pedro Pascal) won't look that silly (especially since it could be set in the 60's)

[@asunayuuki8710]

Great work, Sean. Your reviews are fantastic.

[@Epsilon246]

I remember te silver surfer cartoon, in that Galactus mind-wipped the surfer so that he would have no conflicts about being his herald, which would have worked as an actuall explanation for why he didn't think to betray Galactus.

[@karacomley2001]

These movies were favorites of mine when I was younger. Nowadays they're guilty pleasures.

[@kalainreinard8421]

Chris Evans was a horrible Human Torch. BUT HE OWNED HIS ROLE AS CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!!!

[@PannierLaw]

Agreed

[@ramoncitoross6849]

Weap thast TRUE

[@dragonmaster613]

But still better than Fan4stic! 🤕

[@BrickBoy1894]

12:01 - 12:09

[@XanderLand_Studios]

I loved him as Human Torch!!!! He was frickin awesome!!!

[@jalex.musica]

Even as a 6-year-old, I thought "Yeah, Dr. Doom's story is a rehash of Norman Osborn!"

[@razkable]

shame to..outside of thanos and galactus, dr. doom is easily the biggest known marvel threat...hes evil tony stark basically...hes awesome...i have him over kang and any spiderman villain or magneto

[@roberttreacy8271]

11:40 You should have said that you wanted to punch him in his perfect teeth (thumbs up if you got that reference).

[@daelen.cclark]

I’m glad the FF are coming back to the MCU, and I hope Michael Chiglas makes an appearance somewhere in it. Secret Wars, perhaps?

[@AmishParadise27]

I actually kinda like the first movie. It's not perfect, but I felt was pretty fun for most part.

[@ShiningCatProductions]

i can't remember who it was, but someone said it was good as a multi million dollar sit com.

[@MrAspiringactor]

It was alright but Shining Cat pretty much gets the big problem right, it's not an action film at all

[@MrAspiringactor]

***** Seriously, there are Disney musicals that have more action than this movie did I think the problem, though, is that Tim Story wasn't really experienced at making action films at all and, up to that point, had mostly made comedies so he probably focused more on the comedy because it's what he was more comfortable directing

[@anikmonette2140]

@@ShiningCatProductions He wasn't wrong... But boy would I watch this movie a million times before rewatching the last Fan4stick!

[@razkable]

2 is at least quick and fun and does not have the lame opening to get to them with powers which is like 25 minutes but the sexual tension in that sequel film is insane with everyone...its just subtly hormones the movie with silver surfer...its offputting at times how sexual it is...human torch does not help with that..hes so sexual

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

Hey Smeggy, I have both special editions of the Tim Story FF movies and I can confirm that the Kerry Washington/Alicia Master scenes were filmed and are in the deleted scenes features. In those scenes, Alicia showed Ben her collection of artwork and told the story of how her father taught her how to sculpt which would later go on to have a scene where Alicia more or less treats Ben's wounds and makes him feel more like a person. Not being at all funny here but it is a scene that SHOULD have been in the movie because it showed someone treating Ben like an actual person since the accident, even if she is blind. It should be noted as well that Washington's character would be brought over in animated for in the Moonscope continuation of the movie series and they would later bring back Puppet Master and they make the fact that they are related an important part in his debut episode as he asks her to join him, going so far as to try to emotionally black-mail her by reminding her that he loves her more than anything and nothing would stop that, even if they are not related by blood. 'A gigantic, galactic space anus'......so......Goat.se?

[@CaptRobertApril]

Note about Ioan Gruffudd: Last name is pronounced "Griffith". It's Welsh.

[@umachan9286]

Looks like I owe Jessica Alba an apology. All these years, after seeing these movies, I thought she just couldn't act. Now I see it was the director tipping his fedora as he asked her to "cry pretty". A real director, like Stanley Kubrick, would have forced her to do the same scene 100 times until her tears were real. Sure the man was as much crazy as he was a genius but he got the shots he wanted.

[@Torterra625]

A simultaneous review of arguably the most "faithful" and well received Fantastic Four movies published on my birthday. FANTAST- No, NO, NO! I AM NOT doing that dumbass trope! No, but seriously, thanks for giving me something awesome to close out my 24th with. You're AWESOME, Sean.

[@Genevieve1023]

Happy Birthday

[@williamnissen5083]

Happy birthday

[@PrichOp789]

happy birthday :)

[@nathaniellevesque2782]

I have a good feeling in the next review, most of the video will be devoted to Fant4stic's infamous production history. Come to think of it, the production history was more fascinating than the movie itself.

[@bobo577]

Nathaniel Levesque That's true, the behind the scenes drama and production problems are more interesting than the actual movie, which to be honest I am indifferent to.

[@3Guys1Video]

yes

[@civilwarfare101]

I thought Chris Evans and the Thing were the best parts of these movies.

[@billybarnett9518]

Even though at times Johnny could be anoyying, Evans did make it work.

[@civilwarfare101]

Billy Barnett I pretty much agree.

[@billybarnett9518]

*****​​ It's really a shame we don't have a great F4 movie by now, why didn't Fox take a page out of Marvel and have the origin be in the opening credits like Incredible Hulk instead of spending like an hour on a new origin?

[@civilwarfare101]

Billy Barnett I just never understood why FOX never gave the rights back to Marvel. It's not like the F4 movies they made were that profitable. They gave back Daredevil so why not F4?

[@billybarnett9518]

***** the 2005 movie was considered profitable enough to warrant a sequel.

[@johnschou2172]

What’s kind of sad is that Ben’s fiancé actually stayed with him in the comics. Edit: it was the blind girlfriend who he was with. Never mind.

[@wizardnug2449]

Love your videos. Been binge watching them for days! You should have a million subs! Compared to some “popular” review channels yours is waaaay better than most

[@Stephen-to7jx]

If Fox had greenlit part 3, Chris Evans most likely wouldn't have played Captain America.

[@DigiMega351]

17:17 = It's Captain Holt!

[@1987MartinT]

Correction. It's his douchey brother who joined the army instead of the police force.

[@DigiMega351]

@@1987MartinT Ya got that right. I can see why Captain Holt never mentions him.

[@DarthBobCat]

The Thing is such a good character, that they only ruined him in 1 of the 4 movies they've made.

[@cb1671]

I await the day when a Fantastic Four film actually does the Silver Surfer correctly. Or at least competently.

[@TheAlexSchmidt]

2:00 Actually, according to Thomas Lennon and Ben Garant, who wrote Taxi, the movie did great in test screenings, so maybe that's why Fox was impressed. Fox actually was so confident in the film they signed Lennon and Garant to a deal for another film, which they wound up using on Night at the Museum instead.

[@SuperSwordman1]

I've heard they where going to play Galactus to be more accurate to the comics with James Earl Jones voicing him. But Fox figured that would be to stupid so they went with the giant space anus.

[@tedgruver7618]

Too bad, I would’ve loved to have an accurate version of the Devourer of Worlds with the voice of Darth Vader threatening to eat planets.

[@SuperSwordman1]

@@tedgruver7618 we all would have. Buy because Galactus doesn't look right, space anus. It's like watchmojo saying that MODOK is unusable because he doesn't look threatening enough

[@pbh9195]

Both of these films are guilty pleasures of mine. and after watching fant4stic i have an new appreciation for them. it takes me back to when superhero films like spiderman were lighthearted colorful fun as opposed to the dark depressionary films we got after the dark knight.

[@nomduclavier]

"Don't do drugs!" ... Okay, that's just sweet.

[@MrGlenbw]

Smeghead: (About Galactus) His 1960s design is a bit goofy by today's standard after all... Eson the Searcher: Hold my beer.

[@RhyperiorRanger]

Holy shit I completely forgot Kerry Washington was in this

[@alditoification]

Tim Story's Fantastic Four movies obviously tried to be like San Raimi's Spider-Man films. The problem is that the Spider-Man trilogy had great stories, likeable characters and a good balance between drama and humor, something that these FF movies lack of.

[@JayDee284]

So there like Spider-man 3 is what your saying ;)

[@nitromagilou597]

Frankly, I'd much rather watch Rise of the Silver Surfer than Spider-Man 3.

[@LinkMarioSamus]

Honestly, that comparison made me think of how different superhero movies were even a decade ago. Quite frankly, the early-to-mid 2000s now feel oddly nostalgic. The movies of that time wound up creating trends that have ultimately become tiresome (more edge and angst, over-reliance on established franchise names), but the days of LOTR and Spider-Man are still practically a world away from now. At the time it was arguably just what we all needed considering what the big movies of the mid-to-late '90s were - Independence Day? Armageddon? The Lost World? Twister? The Phantom Menace? Godzilla? I'll pass.

[@alditoification]

+JayDee284 To be honest, I just find Spider-Man 3 disappointing than bad.

[@KidSnivy69]

Oh a double hitter today! Nice work as usual Smeaghead

[@3Guys1Video]

Yes, next time will be Fant4stic. Fuck that movie so much....

[@Foustdoodles98]

+Cinematic Excrement speaking of Rasha Gasnel and the live action Scooby-Doo movie, I definitely want to see you review that movie!! I would love to hear what you think of that movie. It was a part of my childhood and I watched it all the time, but still I want to hear what you have to say about it.

[@danielvandersall6756]

Uh, technically it's the Power Cosmic--he can just basically do anything. Oh God, I agree with you so much, Daffy my old friend. SOOOO much.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

On the subject of Victor going into space with them, my guess is it's a protecting investments kind of deal. The project could have serious benefits that would make Doom so rich he could buy several countries and help his company make several scientific breakthroughs, atleast according to Reed. Naturally it's crazy expensive and Victor wants to make sure it goes as well as possible. So it makes some sense.

[@GabyGeorge1996]

For what it’s worth, I actually DO like the 2004 Fantastic four movie. Sure, it’s not Endgame ; but as its own self contained thing it’s pretty enjoyable. That being said, I’m a HUGE fan of the Cosmic Marvel stuff, and needless to say, what Silver Surfer did to Galactus does nothing short of piss me off. I will give it credit for two things: Laurence Fishbourne/Doug Jones’s performance as the titular Silver Surfer, and having the good sense to not ruin Nick Fury for the following year’s Iron Man by having an original character in the Clonel.

[@xgray2012]

Fox *REEEEALLLY* needs to give the rights to the Fantastic Four back to Marvel Studios.

[@houseofenigmaproductions6558]

Love your reviews, cinema smeg..

[@WobblesandBean]

God I love when you make that Nightvale reference XD

[@OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout]

I never get tired of that Welcome to Night Vale reference.

[@teheyepatch]

I still feel very bad that Horatio Hornblower - Mr. Fantastic - got dragged down into these two movies.

[@carlbloke8797]

I really hope the MCU does the Fantastic 4 better justice

[@ashgreninja-flurriko2173]

The fact that we even see Galactus' silhouette in the movie and the storm cloud is what we got?

[@bobo577]

4:36. When Doom says "confidential", the footage reverses for a moment. That's incredibly weird.

[@Gekkon996]

Well in comics Surfer could do pretty spectacular things and he has a huge range of powers. For example he once took radiation from Bruce Banner body so he was "cured" from Hulk. So it makes sense that he was able to left Johnny without his powers but yeah, i agree that moves itself never told us this.

[@A_Dopamine_Molecule]

Compared to Fant4stic, these 2 movies might as well be Citizen Kane.

[@rameyzamora1018]

Cool that Doug Jones has resurrection powers in another movie, "The Shape of Water." And Sean, you could be Doug's brother, dude.

[@st3althyone]

“Bitch, you had a choice the whole time!”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@zombieedrea]

THAT NIGHT VALE REFERENCE. 👌🏻

[@TheAkmur]

Where?

[@MatthewsStories]

The glowing cloud part. Ah a reminder of when Night Vale was still fun.

[@Glacea21]

What? Where exactly it isn't fun now...?

[@bahghoul]

All hail the glow cloud, but seriously loved the nightvale reference 👍

[@m.valentinesmith4845]

Well played, Smeg .. especially the 'cant stay mad at you' set up..

[@m.valentinesmith4845]

damn,.. the voting for orange wannabe hitler was even better

[@alevtinasherman3411]

Chiklis probably took a cue from Ana Steele to make "crap" his catchphrase

[@bladersmosh]

Nice review as usual Sean. After you review Fant4stic, could you consider doing these options as well? 1. Green Lantern 2. The Golden Compass 3. Mortal Kombat: Annihilation 4. The Lone Ranger 5. Batman V Superman What do you think? Reply if you agree Sean?

[@bladersmosh]

While The Lone Ranger is pretty bad, it's not all bad. The action and visuals are great (nominated for an Academy Award) and the acting/chemistry between Johnny Depp and Armie Hammer is a lot of fun to watch. I hope the two get together more often. But the story is bland, it goes on for to long and half the humour didn't work that well. It's a shame the movie wasn't as good as it could've been. I wanted to see them make a franchise out of this like Disney were planning (much like John Carter only that films actually good). So yeah, Sean should review it.

[@tbekoam]

One reviewer, whose name I do not recall, summed up Jessica Alba as follows: "she makes bad acting look effortless. "

[@alejandrogonzalez00]

9:30 yea they did hav more scene with Alicia cause there’s an extended version of the movie that gave her more screen time

[@OverlyPositiveFanboy]

Raja Gosnell almost made a Fantastic Four movie? Good lord, just imagine that parallel universe.

[@dr.spectre9697]

Jessica Alba is STILL smoking hot! Does this woman EVER age?! Also Maria Menounos who plays the nurse in the first movie is gorgeous!

[@foxandbarrettshow6916]

Love the welcome to nightvale references peppered thru your series lol

[@funcoolfunfun]

I honestly really like these movies.

[@xgray2012]

Well, at least it's better than the 2015 version. But man....they really fucked up the Silver Surfer and Galactus' characters in the sequel.

[@funcoolfunfun]

Neo-Xgray87 Eh, I haven't read the comics, but I agree that they're both better than the 2015 one. Heck, Fant4stic is the only movie I've ever seen that legitimately bored me.

[@xgray2012]

funcoolfunfun You're telling me. And I only knew about the Fantastic Four, by watching them team up with Spider-Man, Storm, Captain America, Iron Man and the Black in the 1990's Spider-Man animated series and then later on in Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

[@funcoolfunfun]

Neo-Xgray87 These two movies were actually the first time I saw the Fantastic Four in anything.

[@xgray2012]

funcoolfunfun And there was also that 2008 animated series called, "Fantastic Four: World's Greatest heroes". Yeah, I'm surprised that nobody ever mentions that series, obviously.

[@dvass7253]

Rise of the Silver Surfer is a huge guilty pleasure for me and, truth be told, I find it a little underrated. But yes, the problems still remain and Sean pretty much nailed most of my thoughts on it. Feel free to check out my review here: letterboxd.com/dvass91/film/4-rise-of-the-silver-surfer/ The first Tim Story movie, however, is fucking garbage - it's worse than The Phantom Menace, in fact (YES, I FUCKING SAID IT, COME AT ME, BITCHES!!!) - and almost killed my love for the Fantastic Four. For 2/3 of the movie the Four sit on their asses and waste our time until the climax when they fight Doom. And that's the reason why I won't ever bother with Fant4stic - because both it and the 2005 version are essentially the same film in terms of structure. It really is sad that Rise of the Silver Surfer is the best Fantastic Four movie we've got, but I'll take what I can get.

[@grainneorgracequinn2888]

D Vass I remember the second movie more than the first one for some reason😅

[@dvass7253]

Grainne Quinn Maybe it's because some actual effort went into it.

[@dantheman931]

I don't remember if the second movie did this, but the main thing I remember about the first one is the absolutely balls-out insane amount of product placement they crammed into it. It actually puts Michael Bay's The Island to shame, and that's goddamn saying something.

[@Dreigonix]

I need to get myself a Fantastic Invisible Torch-Thing. Do they sell them at Target?

[@WalkmanWillWalkAllOverYou]

It wasn't until recently that I learnt that Raymond Holt was in the Second One? RIP Andre Braughner.

[@DatsWhatXiSaid]

If there are 4 reviews of Fantastic 4 movies on Cinematic Excrement that would a Fantastic 4 Reviews.

[@AmethystOrlando]

To this day, I don’t understand why neither of the big screen Doctor Dooms are ruling dictators of Latveria.

[@Foustdoodles98]

+Cinematic Excrement I am so glad you did these two movies in one review that is AWESOME!!! Will you do more reviews like this in the future??

[@neilprice513]

I heard that the makeup effect for Doom, after he stops being a statue, at the beginning didn't turn out well. The studio thought that it looked too gruesome for young audiences, so they got the makeup artist to keep changing it and in the end apparently all the changes made it look like something from a bad Power Rangers episode.

[@rorylumley4727]

the best part of the movie is when the thing says its cloberin time and clobered all over doom.

[@leejones8582]

the first one is a guilty pleasure.

[@la-nk8hq]

i like how the one girl in the scene where mr fantastic expands his fingers gets this really creepy look on her face. you know whats going through her mind...

[@DemonBoy3223]

I think if the Fantastic Four ever goes through *_yet_* *_another_* reboot, maybe they should just do what Marvel had done with Incredible Hulk and will do again with Spider-Man: Skip the origin story, just get to the point. Show them already with their powers, and already in action as the FF.

[@jeroenvanwees3250]

`You're voting for trump, aren't you?' OOOH! SNAP! :)

[@billybarnett9518]

Fun fact, the general in the movie was originally Nick Fury.

[@nodinitiative]

Jeroen van Wees I'am Pro-Trump, but even I found that funny. Ironically, not a lot of anti-Trump reviewers could pull off a "Trump Joke", without sounding like an asshole.

[@Comrade_Jason]

Some of us had to strategically move our popcorn when Chris Evans abs showed up.

[@ayoubromdhana3860]

love your channel dude

[@TevyaSmolka]

personally in my opinion i feel like they screwed up the silver surfer and the power cosmic because that's not how the silver surfers powers work

[@ironman7630]

The only thing wrong in this video is that the Fantastic Four are not and never have been 'Super Heroes' in the classic sense. They are explorers who get into trouble and use their powers to get out. That has been their thing since day one. If they happen to save the world then so be it, but it's usually because they caused whatever it is that is threatening the world, or at least discovered it.

[@deandupont5503]

@ 7:30 This REALLY bugs me. Why would a man missing his right eye be holding a rifle in his right hand?

[@neilprice513]

Galactus has unknown godlike abilities depending on the amount of planets he has consumed. The Silver Surfer though has a specific set of powers. He can survive in any environment, He can fly in any environment (gravity or time doesn't effect him in space), He doesn't need to breath/eat/sleep/drink, has the most powerful healing factor shown in the Marvel Universe and can absorb/re-direct energy or use his own "power cosmic" for energy shields/Energy Beams/ Energy Blasts etc. There are other powers that have shown up from time to time, for "The Almighty Lazy Writer Plot Convienience" then disapearing (Like Superman's), but these powers that I have listed are the Surfers basic powerset that hasn't changed since his creation.

[@jackmonaghan8477]

Apparently, Galactus was made a cloud by order of then Fox CEO Tom Rothman (not the first bone-headed idea he had during his tenure). In fact, some pre-production artwork had him look closer to his comic book image: i.imgur.com/Smp8yEF.jpg

[@tedgruver7618]

From what I learned from Midnights Edge, Tom Rothman had Galactus turned into a space cloud instead of an enormous humanoid because he believed that audiences wouldn’t want to see giant robots. Little did he know that in spite of having Michael Bay as director, Transformers (which was released the same year as Rise of the Silver Surfer) would prove him wrong.

[@peterlane1391]

1. We're assuming the Surfer knew all along a hundred percent that would work. If he's wrong, he loses the people he cares about so it's one hell of a risk to take. In the same way the comic version sees life as unimportant at first, faced with a seemingly all powerful entity only his family matters. This is similar reasoning to Tony initially not doing the Endgame time heist. 2. Few people are prepared to die for a bunch of people they haven't met. Hell, we won't recycle properly for a bunch of people we haven't met.

[@a-z4278]

Best birthday present I've gotten all day!!

[@juliagoodwin3461]

I dunno, I still like the 2004 movie, though it’s also the only one of these I actually saw, so...

[@Glacea21]

Nice! I really love youre Night Vale reference

[@CAMarino92]

F-YEAH! Fant4stic's next month!

[@alexmalcolm6309]

I saw the first movie in theaters and I remember the invisibility scene on the bridge actually having a purpose. Sue went and grabbed Ben after his fiancé rejected him. Did they cut that out for the dvd or did I just fall asleep and imagine it.

[@bobross1829]

I will always go down swinging insisting that the first of these was a perfectly good Fantastic Four movie that had name stars, the effects were fine for the time and it was in the same look and style as the Spider Man's at the time. The comic was silver age goofy and the FF was never a dark and gritty comic (see the newest one to see how that went). Yes, Alba had no chemistry at all with Gruffudd (they acted more like brother and sister), but Alba always had that trouble in movies, despite being so attractive. Yes, they spend a lot of time arguing and pranking, but that is kind of in the spirit of the comic. And the plot actually made sense. Von Doom went on the mission because he knew Reed was a genius and wanted to take credit for any discovery he made. And his plan to neutralize the Thing by giving him what he thought he wanted was actually pretty good! But Fantastic Four fans I think just had some version of a movie in their heads that is unrealistic or cannot be captured by studios. They want it fun..but not too fun. Von Doom to be the "BEST villain ever!", but cannot say how exactly that should be accomplished. This movie was the best I think you could ask for, and it was not excrement at all. It was a very solid comic book FF movie.

[@Dragonblaster1]

I've always been annoyed by "As you already know..." exposition. As a seven-year-old, I remember recoiling at an Enid Blyton book, I can't remember which, but I remember the expository monologue practically word for word to this day. The intrepid kids are on the trail of a shady underground group, but they don't know what they're up to yet. However, they are holed up in the castle when the lead baddie says to his trusted lieutenant, "As you know, we've invented this new explosive. It's called Stellastefany..." and it goes on from there, telling the minor heroes everything, so they don't need to find anything out for themselves.

[@lakituscamera1508]

I remember going to the theaters in 2005 with a group of friends. Half of us saw Fantastic Four, and the other half saw Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I kinda wish I was in the latter group...

[@l.tc.5032]

Eh the other one wasn't all that good either. You weren't missing out on much.

[@alexanderklepp]

I've seen both in theaters. I actually like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory a lot and didn't like Fantastic Four. Of course, I was 12 at the time. So I enjoyed FF at the time but now I don't. I agree with this review.

[@LaineMann]

Trust me you don't