Cinematic iPhone Footage Using Tilta’s New Khronos Ecosystem

[@antonius6302]

also make an SSD that fits into the same ecosystem (connectors)

[@carnyisland]

Needs drop in plates for Shiftcam, Moment and Sandmarc lenses. I swap out four cases, including a Litechaser.

[@therobpratt]

If you go to the product website they do offer an adapter for either 17mm thread, M-series or T-series lenses... Next the question is whether they'll offer a DOF adapter for bigger lenses like BeastGrip.

[@BandH]

What would you shoot with an iPhone + Tilta's new Khronos Ecosystem?

[@jamesphilip6737]

Sounds like I don't need to buy that expensive cinema camera after all. Thanks, B and H!

[@rogeriogomesosorio4755]

The idea looks great… but has quite a few flaws. 1- The cage itself: having to go around screwing the case is no good. There are other better solutions in the market, like smallrig, newer or beastcage. 2- The handle: the handle could be used to solve the major problem of the iPhone: one port only. So, the handle could have a SSD inside and a usb-c and mic jack to connect an external mic. Also, I don’t understand why there’s a cable in there instead of just a simple usb-c plug to connect directly to the phone; 3 - the cooling fan seems cool but it’s connected to close to the lenses, so if you want to attach a traditional VND you can’t; 4- there’s no way to connect a traditional VND. So, it makes it impossible to use it on a run and gun situation; 5- it seems that, because of the weight of all the gear, it not possible to use a smalller gimbal. All consider, why not just use a proper camera? Image would be better in most situations.

[@therobpratt]

Agree about the handle - for it's size could definitely have the features you mentioned... I'm also concerned that it is so large that it would be visible in the frame of the ultra-wide lens. Definitely any cage or rig has to watch out for how far out from the lens assembly it goes for any attached lens or filter, especially if you hope to use the full field of view of the ultra-wide. Kondor Blue is doing some interesting accessories for smartphone cages and handles, so they're another company to keep an eye on.

[@DroseMr]

From now on waiting on tilta🎉

[@cweb1988]

Dang.....I thought that card holder was a SSD.....sad that it's not. Finally a grip that's also a battery. Also do they have a regular filter attachment that lets you use VNDs?

[@Nessaiepasfaisle]

me too ! 😉

[@cweb1988]

@@Nessaiepasfaisle No one wants to attach an SSD with a grip like they do here! Give me a magsafe SSD that fits where that wallet does....and plugs into the battery handle with a pass through or something.

[@CHARLESLYDA]

Interesting, but for people who don’t know what to purchase for any first time beginners, what are the names of all your accessories that you are using, so when I go B&H to purchase, I’ll know what to look and ask for.

[@Nessaiepasfaisle]

Hello thanks for video, But one question: Will it be necessary to change the cage with each new iPhone model? Many thanks from France.

[@reimsrep]

Does anybody know if the Khronos system support mounting external lenses (e.g. sandmarc, moment, reeflex, freewell, etc)?

[@lvlisstaken]

Looks like it will support the 17mm mount as well as Moment’s M & T series. But no 37mm mount

[@norcalcarnivores]

The USB-C hub in your video is different than the Khronos Quick Release USB-C Hub. What is the one you are showing?

[@BandH]

The USB-C hub in the video is noted that it is not the final design. Timestamp 9:24

[@cweb1988]

Still not the solution I'm looking for. I'm assuming the battery grip charges the phone right? No-one wants to attach an SSD with a grip like that. Give me a battery grip and a magsafe SSD that fits in place of that "wallet" and plugs into the grip. Or replace that fan with an SSD attachment. Done.

[@iPhone-Cinematograhy]

After receiving the Khronos Cooling System from B&H, I conducted an amateur, unscientific cooling test, and the Khronos unit cooled down by 9°C (17°F). I plan to post more tests within my Facebook group.

[@antoniusvandermeijde5054]

Would also like a cage for the iPhone 16

[@andreaturbolz3542]

Great to see this great new product. But just one question. Why we must choose, with the handle, to deliver power OR connect an SSD. There is a usb-c port on top of the handle. Why don’t use it to charge the handle and to connect a SSD. If not possible why don’t add a second usb-c on top 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@devin.briggs]

I wonder if the filters are stackable or only 1 at a time...

[@MartinV.]

Great Video

[@maxattack3000]

Can the Nucleus Nano II be used to control zoom in the Blackmagic app? Looking for a way to do slow and smooth controlled zooms. Also what gimbals are recommended with this setup for stabilizing when moving around or panning

[@masjr88]

How about using other lenses

[@dlasis]

The thing is... Apple ever so slightly changes the camera placements or the thickness of iPhones with every release. They're about to release iPhone 16 pretty soon and Tilta is still on backorder status for the iPhone 15 Pro cage.

[@manius_dive]

Does the Bluetooth grip work only with Blackmagic or also with system cameras like iPhone or other brands?

[@BandH]

The Tilta Khronos Focus PD Handle is only for the iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max. The handle can pair with the Blackmagic camera APP.

[@antonius6302]

I don't see any connectors on the C-hub, must it be connected to the iPhone with a USBC cable?

[@BandH]

Yup, that's right.

[@RaceKreme]

here's a question, what gimbal would work well with it? thx

[@BandH]

One of the DJI Ronin gimbals will be able to support the weight of the phone with the Tilta's Khronos ecosystem. Take a look at the DJI RS 3 Mini Gimbal Stabilizer: bhpho.to/3Bx8J5s

[@RaceKreme]

@@BandH thank you for your response, it's super helpful!

[@dreamwevr]

Can add external lenses

[@antonius6302]

How can you use the handle and C-hub at the same time if they both have to be connected to the USB-C connection of the phone, or is the cable of the handle long enough to fit into the hub?

[@AnandaGarden]

I find I can shoot lovely iPhone 15 Pro video in 4K/60 Apple ProRes LOG with a $15 Ulanzi rig, a $130 Shure MV88+ mic, an $18 USB-C hub, and an old SanDisk Extreme 1TB external USB drive. Process in Premiere with the lovely FreeLab conversion plugin, do some minor color correction, export, and done. Honk if the word "cinematic" induces nausea.

[@benderbi]

I know it could be controversial but… What about vertical shootings? 😬

[@pewaw6199]

That is exactly my question. Why uses iPhones if not for vertical social media content? Can I mount the handle to the side?

[@reimsrep]

Why is the USC hub used/shown here different from what is available on Tilta’s website?

[@BandH]

The USB-C hub in the video is noted that it is not the final design. Timestamp 9:24

[@reimsrep]

@@BandH thank you for filling me in on that part I missed.

[@iPhone-Cinematograhy]

Very helpful... thank you.

[@MS88nyc]

Does this work with iPhone 16 Pro Max???

[@BandH]

No, the Tilta Khronos systems will not work with the iPhone 16 Pro Max as the Pro Max is slightly too large for the cage.

[@MaduroMan]

TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!

[@kozjegyzo]

Just the Tilta rig that was in the video costs $570! Not to mention all the other stuff around it. For this much money you can get a Sony ZV-E10 with a kit lens easily and have a far superior camera than an iPhone. It makes absolutely no sense to spend this much on a rig. I'm all for smartphone filmmaking, but rigs like this take all the benefits out of it.

[@LeFilmeaste]

I think it's just a matter of run and gun setup and workflow. A Sony ZV-e10 is a compact camera, but you can't plug an external SSD, and you'll be limitated with the battery. The goal of having such a setup, from my point of view would be to have a very light and versatile setup. You have your phone at anytime with you, and just by bringing a tiny little bag, you can easily equip it and have it ready with all the need of a professional shoot. Manual focus, ND filter, nice view screen, little light and SSD holder. This whole setup is light to carry around and you don't have to worry about bringing more battery or SD card.

[@kozjegyzo]

@@LeFilmeaste if you look at the footprint of the whole Tilta system it has a very similar footprint as a ZV-E10 and at the end of the day you are still stuck with an iPhone with a puny sensor and mainly plastic lenses. You can use SD cards in the ZV-E10 and additional batteries that you can actually switch if they run out. It's a far superior system, to an iPhone for filmmaking purposes. It's objectively better.

[@patrickath3]

@@LeFilmeaste There is noting versatile to a fully tricked rig like that, so run n gun is def out of the window. I do like the rig, but calling it versatile and light is delulu

[@MS88nyc]

Clients want stuff shot on iPhone. I think the idea is great but missed a bunch of things

[@reimsrep]

Does the pd handle have a trigger button to shoot a photo or start-stop recording video?

[@BandH]

Yes it does, it has a record button on the top of the handle.

[@reimsrep]

@@BandH great! Does it trigger the iOS camera app to take photos? I.e. does it use the ios api to shoot photo? Foes anyone know or has anyone tried testing the button for photography?

[@andrearusky]

I'm wondering how effective that cooling fan really is.... since it's just blowing the air to the back of the phone, the air is not going to magically pass through the frame and cool down the components inside the iphone

[@therobpratt]

My question is what the fan will do to the audio recording - you'll probably have no choice but to do external sound recording on other devices.

[@dymonmein]

The metal backing by itself is likely an effective heat sink already. Cooling it further will make it that much more effective.

[@dymonmein]

@@therobprattWell yeah… all this gear is for a cinematic rig. Nobody who buys this is trying to use their iPhone’s internal mic in the first place.

[@darkknightwithanidea1845]

Isn’t that just brilliant well that’s it as soon as the iPhone 6 promax gets here all thise Arri & Panovision fossils in Hollywood can get some early retirement and make room for some real filmmakers for the future…. fantastic 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼🎬🎥

[@BobbaFett-v7f]

where is the SSD go? common sense to add a section for the SSD.

[@BandH]

Tilta does make a SSD holder to attach to the Tilta Khronos Ecosystem. Tilta Khronos Universal SSD Holder: bhpho.to/3VF3cmo

[@crauser2000]

The iPhone has the same problem than other phones. With light, the image is amazing but with low light is a garbage. Its better than other phones but its not better than a profesional camera with a good lens.

[@antonius6302]

card holder should have been an SSD

[@PS-ys9yg]

the review is great, the result footage not so

[@GixrGuy]

Peace be with you! I'm echoing the question that other persons have asked, What about 3rd Party lenses??? Can this system accommodate Beastgrip 37mm mount and their DOF Adapter, Reeflex 17mm mount and Moment "T" series mount lenses??? Totally Dope iPhone Camera Cage system. However, it'll be a HUGH oversight if the system doesn't support 3rd party lenses. Additionally, is their a Top Handle available? Thank you so much.

[@BandH]

You can mount different types of lenses on the Khronos cage, with M Series and T Series Lens Adapters, as well as a 17mm Thread Adapter for usage outside the Khronos line. >Mark

[@GixrGuy]

@@BandH Thank you for this. Tilta updated their website providing greater info on their Amazing iPhone Camera Cage. Thank You!

[@GUANTA23K]

I love it for the technical ingenuity, but the more you rig it out, the more absurd it gets. Why would you want to shoot a "professional video" with a dedicated focus puller for instance... on a tiny phone camera? But still, cool stuff. 😅

[@Steal_ex]

What kind of bunch of sick people are they who are not sold normal cameras?!

[@wondersoftheworld41]

Why? This is crazy 9:29 Now pro filming with phones 😂, buy a pro camera it's cheaper than a phone

[@2424rocket]

You can fool yourself all you want, but iPhone footage can never be “cinematic”… That word is so overused today people have no clue what it really means. If you’re shooting on an iPhone, I don’t care how careful you are. It’s going to look mediocre at best. People just don’t shoot great things on an iPhone… That’s an oxymoron. Save up your money and buy a real phone… Perhaps the Sony FX three if you’re really interested in shooting good looking footage. And please stop using the word cinematic.

[@darkknightwithanidea1845]

Well, isn’t that just a dinosaur statement?

[@kozjegyzo]

I stopped using the "C-word"... For a great video you need a great story. You can literally shoot it on box, if the story is good it will captivate your audience. It's never about gear!

[@tomasanguita4906]

Lo mismo decían los coloristas hace 15 años atras, la cosa avanza, hay publicistas que dicen ser cineastas, etc

[@BeardedBrummyHikingChronicles]

I guess that depends on the definition of ‘cinematic’ and what yourself as an individual interprets as a cinematic image. There are many factors involved in making a good and pleasing image. Cinematic may be regarded as an image with good depth of field hence bringing a character out from the background, an image that’s got an aspect ratio more accustomed to cinema like 2.39:1 or is it the dynamic range that gives us good blacks and creamy highlight roll off, or the grade? All said and done in the right hands the iPhone 15 pro max can give you those things. Yes it’s a ridiculously small sensor that has of course has limitations, highlight roll off isn’t great and super dark scenes won’t be the best BUT when you look back at some of the tools used in cinema from years ago I can guarantee the ProRes log image out of this phone is way better. Case in point, 28 Days Later shot on an early low definition Canon XL1, no body questioned the results of that, The Possession of Hannah Grace was shot entirely on Sony A7sii’s an 8 bit camera, the film looks amazing. Not to mention how many productions used the Canon 5D Mkii in its day! So while I’m not having a rant here in disagreement, just saying times are changing, and whilst even Apple probably never intended the iPhone 15 pro max to be used as a cinema camera it’s great to see people having the balls to use it as such. After all people would have laughed at the thought of the Sony FX3 being used to shoot an iMax film but non the less it’s happened.. it’s only a matter of time a feature film will be shot on the iPhone and the audience won’t even realise as long as the story is engaging and the acting is on point!

[@DroseMr]

Need a prores raw update🤪🫶