Cinematic Lens Filters Compared | Tiffen Black Pro-Mist, Moment CineBloom & Prism Lens Dream FX

[@filmk]

To be honest, tiffen looks the best

[@AndreiLucaa]

100% - as he said, retains the black levels as much as possible

[@iamcolinclark]

also the halation around the lightsource is way more contained and looks more like something youd get from cinestill or similar

[@dustyslay6143]

Moment one looks the worst by FAR 😂

[@ditorres9884]

The moment looks exactly like the NiSi MC Black Mist. A cheap Chinese option. My guess is that they are just rebranding it. I bought one NiSi MC Black Mist for 1/3 the price of a BPM. For the chinese price it's worth it. But Moment is selling it way higher than the Chinese price. Just a ripoff.

[@imiy]

Tiffen is too strong.

[@dominey]

I think the Tiffen looks the most natural. I prefer the 1/8 strength because it doesn’t bloom quite as much as 1/4.

[@quantumimagesQC]

Yep I agree. Got the Tiffen 1/8 and it's definately the best in most circumstances.

[@elliotstern8582]

Like the tiffin best 1/8

[@REMRODFILMS]

yeah i think im gonna order the 1/8 it only needs a little touch

[@Heartbeatzofficial]

I think why I like the cinebloom the most is because it still shows the light source with nice halation around it instead of it looking like a big smudge.

[@JasonLawrenceNoel]

Exactly

[@brodrickharrison9191]

the moment cinebloom actually seems to add a real film feeling sensation. Is it just me? Love the look of it...

[@goat2503]

I’ve got the cinebloom and the promist, both definitely have their place, they definitely add a film quality to the image that’s impossible to recreate with out them. Best decision I made to get more creative with my photography

[@mustbescud]

I felt the same, I thought i liked the tiffen 1/4, until the cinebloom came on lol. something about it

[@quasarkitten]

Tiffen Black pro mist comes in 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2, and 3 on popular sizes like 82mm. According to moment’s site the 10% is comparable to a 1/2 and the 20% is like a 1. Thanks for the comparison!

[@mike.canvas]

that's crazy how Moment compares it like that. after watching this video, the TIffen at 1/4 looks more strong than the Moment at 10% (1/2). I would of been fooled if it was said it's more like a 1/4 or even between 1/8 and 1/4 rather than a 1/2.

[@quasarkitten]

@@mike.canvas Agreed. I have the 10% and the 20% and the 10% seems stronger than my 1/4. My guess and non-scientific testing is that the 10% has about the same highlight diffusion as the 1/4, but it looks like more diffusion because the Tiffen retains more contrast in the shadows. I still find a use for the Tiffen, because I don't always want to lift my blacks as much. I like that i have the option of both products.

[@Awrange]

Pro mist was the only filter that made the halation blend in with the light instead of sitting on top of it if that makes sense. Just felt more organic

[@nygmaa]

That was my first reaction, no contest here imo.

[@alexgrant311]

I think it'll be nice to see all of the filters in action outside in real life filming situations

[@russellbaston1223]

I've been experimenting a bit with diffusion filters, both Cineboms and K+F 'black mist' ( a similar to but much less expensive Tiffen) My conclusion, so far is that the scene they're used in is critical to the overall end result. A high key subject imho needs a lower 'strength' filter as the diffusion tonal dilution can end up with a "milky" look, I see Moment have now added a 5% to their range which I think could perhaps be to use in such circumstances, a 'black filter' might be my overall choice for high key. Concersely a low key scene especially night shots in urban environments can take much higher levels of diffusion the 20% Cinebloom works fine and if you want to push it to semi fantasy/dreamy ,using the 10% and 20% together works.

[@moment]

that shirt is sick

[@spensersakurai]

It came from La Marzocco Seattle. 🤘🏼

[@eastonoliver5895]

have to agree

[@robvision3888]

Do not buy from Moment if you need your gear in a timely manner. I paid for one of these filters on Monday. Well it’s Thursday and the filter still hasn’t even been shipped yet lol. Worse part is I payed for 2 day fedex shipping lol 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@zman360auz]

@@robvision3888 got mine in 4 days.

[@thenightowl_22]

Thank you for trying it out first with a “neutral/modern” lens. It really helps when comparing

[@dna8269]

Glad someone made this video! I think another video said the Moment 20% was best for night shots and the 10% for day ones. I'm going to pick them up and try it out to see myself. I've been a Pro Mist 1/4 user pretty exclusively. That lifted black look could possibly be useful for certain projects

[@erictelchik]

Bro I literally just checked 10 min ago if there were any new videos on the cine bloom.😂

[@lex6463]

I have the cinebloom 20% filter from Moment and I adore it, I shoot with it constantly. But I also prefer my work to look very cinematic-dreamy.

[@isaiahorozco5756]

I’m partial to the cinebloom! I like it more 😫

[@HerbyFL34]

Hello, if I have a sigma 18 35, which filter should I buy or if I have a super takuma

[@JYSRecords]

Tiffen 1/4 looks amazing, and I also like how the dream fx is doing on the skin

[@Diminish12]

The Tiffen has a huge green ghost problem. Usually within high dynamic range areas. Where your exposed for indoors, if there's a bright window a massive green ghost window refection will show on the screen. Only way to minimize is having a higher F number. With the Prism Dream Lens FX it has no issues. It handles Green Ghosting like a champ. So for my daily I use Lens FX. And if I'm doing interviews I use Tiffen and make sure to keep any lights at certain single to not get the green Ghosting or make sure the lighting is pretty evenly lit all around.

[@OurFantasyLife]

Me: "Oh damn, the Fujifilm looks good..." Spenser: "...and we're shooting on the Ursa Mini 5.6k..." Me: "Welp, I'll see myself out..."

[@IanSnape]

Nice dude, i use the Tiffen 1/4 and 1/8 i like them a-lot. The cinebloom looks good but i'm not to sold on it as seems to effect the whole image where the Tiffen is more natural looking i think. Good Video though dude.

[@WTG194]

if you had to buy them again which would you buy first?

[@karlnovel]

Thank you for the comparison! i think I'm gonna chose the Tiffen in the 1/8 strength because I liked the color of the tiffen better but preferred the strength of the moment.

[@iamngkalon]

thanks for the test! it helps a lot, in my opinion i prefer keep tiffen in one since it still much like reality and it can be use in most the time, and also i will prefer one more dream filter to deal with some fancy or dreamy shot to make a quite different texture in shot. hope it can help people in doubt with that :)

[@hunterlang9314]

the dream fx filter looks really nice on the key side of your face

[@sam.oates_]

Not going to lie, I think it prefer the subtlety of the cinebloom well done moment!

[@NineVoltDigitalCinema]

I’ve been using Tiffen ProMist or Ultracontrast since the MiniDV days on the old Canon XL-1s. Love the look, and wouldn’t mind seeing it catch on with KZbinrs. Thanks for the comparison.

[@Amazazing32]

Really appreciated the effort and detail you've put into this video man! I came across the moment lens not long ago, but now I'm also considering the Tiffen Black Pro Mist. Like you showed in different situations, it's easier/harder to notice the subtle differences in halation and quality between the two. But somehow I find myself gravitating to the Tiffen because of how much it more retains the contrast and saturation of colours, whereas the Moment lens produces a grey cast across the screen.

[@jonathanwamble9340]

Thanks for the comparison! I think I drove through Sakurai in Nara a couple days ago. Pretty place!

[@XenOng3n]

It’ll be interesting to see how these especially the tiffen will fare against the upcoming Polar Pros x PM VND+Mist. But so far in this, Tiffen is a clear choice for me.

[@HappinessRedefined]

every time you turn your face right, my mind automatically says ''LET'S GET UNDONE'' :) BTW nice comparison, I'll go with the Pro-Mist 1/4

[@impatrickt]

9:11 nice headphones

[@CaseyHardman]

I don’t know if “bummed” is the right word, but I was kind of hoping I’d like the Moment more than the Tiffen, but that 1/4 BPM just looks fantastic in my opinion.

[@coreyrippetoweddingfilms]

Yeah man I agree 😉

[@FredTrevinoColor]

Just got the tiffen, can’t wait to test it!

[@husainfoolath4287]

I prefer the look of the moment filter, thanks for the vid!

[@SamLucas26]

I literally just ordered the cinebloom last night to make this exact video 😂 From the examples I’ve seen so far, it looks like the cinebloom desaturates the entire image quite a bit and effects overall contrast/lifts the shadows, while the pro mist, which I use all the time, just sticks to the contrast in the high mids and highlights. But I’m excited to get it in and test for myself 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

[@malamadrem9522]

Give later your opinion pleas 🙏

[@tom_something]

One nice effect from the bloom is that it helps communicate the color of a bright practical light. For example, that tube light might be capable of a wide variety of color temperatures, but there's a good chance the outline of the tube itself is going to be completely white in the finished piece. The light could even be orange, magenta, cyan, even a really bright red, and still the bulb itself can appear white depending on what else is going on. But when you've got bloom, that bloom doesn't necessarily suffer the same blow-out. Optics only clip in technology, not in nature (unless you want to get into quantum mechanics). It's the kind of thing that would be hard to fix in post. Imagine if, for some reason, the tube light is completely in focus, and the image is tack-sharp with no bloom when it's captured. Your editing software has no idea that it was an orange light. It just sees the white. So if you apply a bloom effect in post, the bloom will just be white, unless for some reason you exposed way to the left. It's something we don't think about too much. If we look at a red light in real life, no matter how bright that light it, it's still going to look red. But in film, that same light might appear white or yellow or cream, with a strong red bloom around it. And without having to think about it, our brain informs us that the light is red because the bloom gives us that evidence.

[@PhillipSkraba]

The Tiffen is just the mutts nuts isn't it. I love how it just affects the highlights and holds on to those blacks like a pro. The Moment has it's uses though, and their promos showing it off as a "vintage" or 80's style filter really comes off great as it does look like it affects the whole image, almost spreading the highlights bloom effect all over the shadows. Cool stuff, thanks for this Spenser!

[@GeraldBertramPhotography]

Actually I would say the Tiffen is more the cat's ass

[@danhoven]

Thanks for the tip on simply getting a step up ring. I wish I watched this last week when I bought two sets of other filters, but at least they were just cheap filters. I had a Tiffen 1/4 & 1/2 72mm in my cart last night ready to be bought for my main lens (Nikkor Z 24mm 1.8) and then after seeing this I swapped it to the 82mm and bought a set of step down rings as well as getting a couple specifically to go from 82mm to my two lenses to save time (since, they're barely $15 so who cares). I'm completely new to cameras. I've finally taken the plunge and bought a Nikon Z6II for my overhead camera for my piano videos. Been using Gopro's for years and tired of the crazy distortion and lack of low light control (well, my area isn't low light but it is to a gopro). Figured I'd try these filters to try to get a different look. In your comparisons, looks like the Tiffen blacks look far better. That a good thing since my keyboard is black. In some of the others, the blacks looked very washed out. Thanks again!

[@Chromedbustop]

Ah yes, that good ol' "Nose Oil" effect. A must have! lol!

[@johansermartinez9287]

Crazy that you post this. I shot my last two videos with the dream filter and everyone I have showed the video to doesn’t seem to like it at all. Everyone has told me the same thing that it’s too strong. And I think so too. Def looking into getting the Tiffen now.

[@mrshaheedmalik]

The Tiffen 1/4 is too strong it seems.

[@mirkwoodforest]

then get the 1/8

[@JasonLawrenceNoel]

I really like the way you can still see the actual light on the moment and get a really spread out bloom! Something that bothers me with others is you lose the actually visibility of the light source… ie cool street lights etc

[@pameflores]

Thank you so much for showing us all of this! You are amazing!!!

[@KibaWolf]

So Cinebloom 10% seems equivalent to the BlackProMist 1/8? But for half the price and slightly higher black levels?

[@CreateGreg]

Great comparison, thanks Spenser! 👍

[@alpiasker]

every time he says "quote on quote filmic look" take a shot

[@SpencerSnyder]

What is the difference between a filter and doing this in post with luma key and blur? Thanks!

[@oceansidesounddesign8770]

@matheauFX I had the same question. I think you miss the softening / fall off of the skin tones since you are only dealing with the light halation in post. Is that right?

[@vanceuribe295]

Literally in the market for another halation filter and have been between these. Thanks man so helpful

[@AnishRajah]

Waiting for 4 days for the PMVND Mist Edition to come out! I assume that it is a mix between a vnd and a pro mist filter!

[@InspiRAWtion]

Hello, thanks for the comparison. I wonder how would the Schneider hollywood blackmagic filter compare?

[@ThePhotoDept]

Great video my dude! I just did a video about the Moment ND filters (dropped today actually) and I'm pretty impressed with them. Great seeing your breakdown of all of these.

[@gregoryscott3858]

The biggest thing I learned: that vintage Canon lens is gorgeous. For the filters, in this specific shot, CineBloom comes off more like a smudged/dirty lens, something about the way the halation spilled across your face, the effect felt 'on top of' the image rather than 'in it'.

[@makanimike]

yeah. vintage Canon was so beautiful. That one and Canon + Cinebloom did it for me!

[@supa76]

Of course it is personal preference, but personally I prefer the cinebloom. 🤔 interested to see the 20%

[@EugeniaLoli]

I find the 20% too strong, there are videos out there with examples.

[@supa76]

NicoDa1 sounds cool! Im getting the 10 too

[@vaskoobscura_]

It's totally subjective but to me the Black-Pro Mist looked better than the other examples. Thanks for this video it was very helpful.

[@DarkVanities]

Thank you for explaning I really appreciated! ☺ I have a question for you, thank you in advance for answring... I would like to use the lens Sony 24-105mm on my Sony A7IV, then I would like to apply a Nisi Black Mist on it, and on the black mist I’d like to put the ND64 6stops + CPL integrated filter by Nisi. Will I make a mess of my photos and videos? Would this be a bad choice to make? Is the 24-105mm G really less sharp, bidimensional, sad looking and not good in night, low light or indoors situations? Cause my intention is to get a tridimensional, cinematic looking on my photos and videos.

[@ZangLussuria]

I like the low bloom of the Moment for direct light sources but the Tiffen looks great with contrast and looks the best as long as you're not shooting straight into a light source. I'd use the Tiffen for an outdoor shoot.

[@RandomRotation]

Nice comparison. I got my CineBlooms a couple of days ago and really like them.

[@elliotstern8582]

Best comparison and purpose I’ve seen on youtube.

[@TwangThang57]

Pretty fond of the FD w/ no filter.

[@mikeeljordanswan7798]

Do I need to use an ND filter with the promist or is the pro mist also adding neutral density to the image when on a bright sunny day?

[@switchmuso]

Funny to read the comments and see the love for the Cinebloom which I hated the look of compared to the Tiffen, much less grey washout, but that’s what art is about right? Different tastes.

[@EpitomePax]

Just got my 20% CineBloom today! Stoked to try it; awesome comparison btw 🤙🏽

[@redcolour1197]

Can we do this in post? Cinebloom & pro-mist.

[@arande3]

Noticed you have the speakers I'm listening on in the background there. This better sound really good on my speakers. Lol.

[@ajphelps16]

Which one do you use the most today

[@ForTheViolence]

Thank you for making this video. Seen too many misleading videos about the moment filter.

[@LC-nd9hv]

"you can rub some oil off your nose and smear it on your lens" hahahaha. That made me laugh, but I guess it's true, you can. The sponsor should have been neutrogena, perfect segway.

[@aet96]

Very informative thanks! I saw that Viltrox 23mm lens, how do you like it for video use?

[@michaelfrymus]

So, I bought the Tiffen ProMist, thinking it was the Black Pro Mist... But now I'm wondering if the ProMist is good, or if I should get the Black ProMist instead. Not sure what the difference is really.. haven't seen many comparisons

[@ginotarabotto]

Would be great to see side by side comparison bw the filter and a post effect fx such as Final Cut.

[@AngryApple]

I had a UV Filter for my Main Lens to protect it in harder shooting conditions. I didnt used it much lately, well in the past 3 years haha. Anyway the foam in the box where it came in somehow merged with the coating on the filter a bit making it a little bit milky, yeah now Ive got a Mist filter for free 😂

[@ZarathrustaTate]

hello! so me i’ve checked both the bloom and dream filter. The price of both is super fine, but since i’m a n Mexico the price for shipping is too high, almost the same as the filter itself... Amazon does sell the Pro Mist... if I wanted the equivalent of the dream or bloom, which Pro Mist should i go for? the 1/2? the 1? thanks !!

[@vsevolodzaydin6039]

First of all, I would like to thank you for this great comparison. I’m in love with tiffen one, but the only one question bother me all the time. How can I use my vnd with tiffen and should I? Appreciate

[@charlesbcraig]

hmm... just got my Dream FX today and compared it with my Pro Mist 1/4. The Dream FX has almost no halation! I'm so confused. Did they change their design?

[@juancisneros725]

the image in 8:52 looks preatty cool

[@chrisescobar7713]

Switched my purchase from the cinebloom to the Tiffen. check time 7:33

[@B_dev]

it'd be interesting to compare these to a post processing recreation of their effect.

[@ACDGibson]

Nice video! Thumbs up :) I'm wondering if I can use these kind of filters on top of my variable nd? 🤔

[@notaturkey2607]

Yes definitely.

[@joshzaring]

yes, definitely. but because most vari nd’s are larger on the outside, put the diffusion filter on first.

[@Funaki90]

Yes! I was waiting for this comparison!

[@swashy8933]

I don't get the difference between 1/8 and 1/4 which one is stronger?

[@MattSpaugh]

Great video. I love your stuff. Canon FD with the Tiffen 1/4 really floats my boat. I have to wonder if there is a good post-production option for getting this effect. Coming from an audio production background my tendency is to always 'record clean' and manipulate in post. It seems like quite a bit of commitment to force a look on the original footage.

[@DustinHarrelson]

Well this is exactly the video I needed. I was about to buy the Tiffen and then Moment release theirs so I’ve been wondering how they compare.

[@nowwhat1434]

This exactly what I needed!! Thank you!

[@moof9218]

THANK YOU! This video was super informative! Love the switching back and forth, it really helped!

[@DaniGareta]

Love cinebloom 10% look, for me it is really balance and cinelook

[@sebastianmoore4607]

What is that shirt? I love it.

[@MindYaBizz_Whiz]

I liked the subtle bloom of the cinebloom.

[@tomcruz3774]

The only filter missing here are the hoya white and black mist filters. I can barely find any videos on yt talking about them. They're a lot cheaper too

[@ProjectileObjects]

These filters look drastically different when you put the light / highlights in focus. The Prism FX can look nasty with LED lights when in focus, whereas the Tiffen doesn't have that problem. I'm not sure about the Moment, but I'd buy the Tiffen if you have the money for it. (That being said, I'm the owner of both Prism FX dream filters).

[@danaitani6827]

Loved all the info in this video, so which Tiffen 55mm Black Pro-Mist 1/4 Filter size would you get for the SIGMA 18-35? On the link in description it showed only 55mm, 100mm etc etc I didnt see a 35 mm, any help? Thanks!

[@ranchjp]

what f stop are you using - I bet that has an effect on the differential blooming between highlights and shadow

[@goingfurther8092]

Get ready for an entire fad / phase of KZbin videos that glow like 80’s soap operas thanks to the barrage of youtubers suddenly making promist/ bloom promo videos.

[@impatrickt]

im stoked

[@markshirley01]

First its sharpness now its blur 😄😄😄😄

[@segzeeman7356]

Mark Shirley what are the lens manufacturers gonna do? Are they gonna move away from pixel peep sharpness? 🤣

[@devinnealtutorials4806]

Can you please help me? If I wanted to buy this for the default lense of my Sony a7iii what size do I get?

[@AndrikLangfield]

Awesome video, just found your channel today! Thanks for the great content :)

[@TrancezFreak]

Hi man! I like your review the most in regards to the pro-mist filters and I finally got the 1/8 however i just read a theory that basically it depends on the lens what the diffusion would be and it will be different with in different focal lengths. For example 1/4 is best for wide to 35mm lenses, 1/8 is best for 50mm etc. Have you noticed such scenario? I'm starting to regret I didn't get the 1/4 if that's the case when using mostly 35mm (shipping to Europe was exactly the amount of the filter itself....)

[@Fedorevsky]

This is correct. I have lots of different diffusion and soft filters from different brands, both cheap, expensive and in between, all kinds. And I noticed this rather quickly when I used the very first one I got on a 24-105mm zoom lens. The more you zoom in the more pronounced the effect gets. This is because you are in fact zooming in on the coating on the filter. The coating is most often little spots the maker has sprayed on in a certain thickness to achieve the wanted rating of 1/8, 1/4 and so on. At around 85-100mm (depending on the filters diffusion strength) the filters tend to ruin the picture (too soft and too much bloom/halation) and I find it better to shoot without and perhaps add a little digitally in post instead on these shots. If I shoot with several primes for a project I attach different filter strengths to the different focal lengths before heading out to shoot in order to achieve a similar effect over the different focal lengths. Obviously more expensive but definitely worth it if you want to achieve a better more even result.

[@anthonybodin5848]

Do i need this for photography? Or can i recreatr this look in lightroom?

[@stephenkilfeather9821]

Hi, great video and thanks for the info. I am currently using the pro mist 1/4 with my GH5. I have my natural profile set to low sharpening in the settings. Should I put my setting back to normal and then use the pro mist or keep my in camera settings to low sharpening with the pro mist on top?

[@scott_the_dreamer]

your tutorials are dope always get good info from you

[@wevidmedia]

I don't own a camera but very much passionate about it so just curious to know that can we use 2 filters together? Like what if we are on a outdoor shoot and we want to use ND as well black pro mist filter/cinebloom or polarizer filter or uv filter together?

[@UlfKlose]

Can wen expect to be able to correct the faded blacks of the CineBloom filters in post?

[@spensersakurai]

Yeah you can bring them back but not as ideal as Promist

[@Promikes]

please check out Freewell magnetic glow mists, there is 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 too by the way... and Glimmerglass from Tiffen - i think is special between every filter

[@nsfilms8559]

How do you get rid of ghosting from filters?