Everything GREAT About Captain Marvel!

[@CinemaWins]

So there was a huge storm last night and it knocked out my internet. I'm currently on my Mother-in-law's wifi uploading this video. I had planned a brand new video for today, but the power and internet being in and out has really screwed me up. Hopefully it's back tonight and I'll be able to get the new one up. It's Matrix Resurrections, why be coy? It's ironically a 2 parter because I'm still in the early stages of editing the second half and it's a long movie. But I wanted to get something real and new and great up for y'all, so as soon as it's done I'll publish it, hopefully Monday. In the meantime, another combo! Yayyyyyy. ;)

[@WigTheC0wb0y]

Man even when his wife is still out he still brings u videos what a chad Edit Wi-Fi not wife

[@joosh2921]

yay.

[@andytay5507]

BTW, It's not a huge thing but the Word is pronounced Hex-ag-on-al, NOT Hex-a-gon-al.

[@turtledude83]

Hey! When do you think you'll get around to The Batman (2022)?

[@sportsmag6148]

Isn't Ben Mendelsohn an Aussie mate?

[@keonhazel2799]

I feel like Fury did call her during the chitari/ultron battles but it takes hours/days to travel back even at light speed. I imagine she’s like halfway back and the Fury’s like lol nvm we’re good.

[@coltonkleins]

She did appeared during the first or second avenger, i don't remember, but they recast

[@AWorldofKayos]

@@coltonkleins naw joss had her in the script but changed it it was just gonna be here and Spider-Man at the end with the other avengers and the wasp training. But they wanted to wait to give her a movie same with wasp

[@alliew31]

That ancient thing wasn’t doing more than one call. If she showed back up in 2010 they would have updated it with alien tech

[@optimussentinel]

I do still love the headcanon that they had a bet going as to how long it would actually take him to call her for help, and that he Almost called her during the first Avengers

[@idontevencarewhathtissays]

@Keon Hazel I'm going to choose to believe that now too, because that made me chuckle.

[@powerdroidgirl]

"I have nothing to prove to you".. That line resonated with me in a way I can't explain.

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

basically only pushing you because it benefits them not because it helps you

[@JoshSweetvale]

It's the thing to say to its critics.

[@Shatterpath]

Heck yes it did! I felt 10 feet tall and indestructible!

[@fayesouthall6604]

Same. He was a chauvinist!

[@wsconsn]

@@fayesouthall6604 no he wasn’t, there were women on his team he respected. He was assigned/chose to manipulate her so he could use her as a weapon, he didn’t respect her he wanted to use her. Gender had nothing to do with it.

[@violetadams4428]

As someone who saw this movie "blind" to outside controversy, I enjoyed it. It wasn't perfect but movies, including Marvel movies aren't perfect either. As far as the archetype of "strong character suppressing their feelings" it's one that I don't mind and that Brie Larson did well. Pick almost any action movie and the lead is usually some stoic badass with a history of being awesome without context behind it. And I am happy that women are getting more characters to look up to. I think that is great. Also can't wait to see photon/Monica Rambo outside of Wandavision.

[@lukedaigle6911]

Yeah i saw this movie because i was watching through all the marvel movies, and i didn’t have very high expectations. I heard a lot about this movie being bad but i actually enjoyed it

[@davidw.2791]

Check out Dr S and the Multiverse of Madness, then.

[@Nonamethankyou128]

Yeah except anyone that’s been alive for more than 5 seconds knows women aren’t like this …at all 😂

[@dkaybee]

As a middle aged female, I left the movie feeling like they made it for me. Like they made Carol for me. Very cathartic to watch her break her "chains" and blow everything up like that. And yeah, "Only Happy When It Rains" was my jam back in the day, so there's that too.

[@JoshSweetvale]

On a completely different resonance: Anime. Her arc is very similar to Anime protagonists, finding clarity in wrath and peace in strength.

[@leonstewart1739]

This comment made me appreciate the movie more, I really wanted to enjoy it but classifying it as "not for me specifically" somehow makes me like it more

[@Hevach]

Marvel has become very good at making movies that are "for" certain people. Captain Marvel is a good movie, but it's a great movie for the right viewer. Same with Black Panther. Even the "white guy heroes" fall into this more and more. Ant Man came out just as I became a father and very much felt like it was made for me, "Be the hero they already think you are," still gets me. I feel like this really came into its own with Disney+, too.

[@JoshSweetvale]

@@Hevach Bull.

[@janosd4nuke]

@@JoshSweetvale Now that you mention it yeah. But Alita was already occupying my anime-box back in the day. But also in the camp of not the target audience yet clicked with me immensely. As an east EU 30YO White dude, the member-berries matched perfectly given the lag US popcult hit our recently decomunized bloc during my elementary school days. Then booksmart introverted and extremely socially awkward kid gaslit by his stepmom to stay in line with a doormat of a father got me into the hilarious position of feeling the oppression of the patriarchy from a woman as a dude. So while not amnesia, just runaway kid during uni discovering his own character after a horrid bubble of a childhood made Carol an extremely relatable character to me.

[@LadyLightningstorm]

I actually found Bree's subtle emotions easier to read than many other actors. When I found out people were complaining that her acting was flat, I was baffled.

[@calmwaveofchaos1878]

I was also baffled when I found out people thought she wasn’t emoting at all. Her body language is really tense and guarded for a good portion of the film and noticeably different to her at the end, and there are tons of moments where she’s clearly subduing expressions and suppressing reactions but they still slip through. I don’t know, I’m often told people have a hard time reading me, so maybe I’m just more used to recognizing that stuff.

[@AbrielMcPierce]

THANK YOU!

[@kanavkohli794]

Bore Larson IS a flat actor with no emotional range....She looks like how galadriel looks in LOTR rings of power right now....Stone faced monstrosity (Mary Sue)

[@josephcoon5809]

You weren’t “reading emotions.” You were projecting.

[@josephcoon5809]

@@kanavkohli794 Careful. You aren’t actually really literally “stunning and brave” if you don’t parrot THE MESSAGE which is amplified by billionaire tech moguls as rational discourse is suppressed. Speaking truth to power really isn’t en vogue today. Check your privilege. /s 😂

[@Grizzbit]

This channel is why I quit being so pessimistic. I love movies again. My sense of wonder has been restored. Thank you Lee.

[@jacksomedaysoon]

Dude literally same. I'm still relatively young but I was a snarky teen with a soft spot for superhero movies but this channel made me feel good about it and cured me of my pessimism. Been a few years of just loving things again. Won't ever go back

[@Vilamus]

I actually watched a movie I had not heard of due to this channel (Jolt and I utterly love it).

[@ironduke6432]

His name is Lee?

[@thepopo592]

Same, I used to be WAYYY to critical about everything that came out, now I've learned to appreciate the work the entire crew and production puts into these pieces of media.

[@kingmunzz2316]

If you need some guy on KZbin to do that then that is sad

[@wsconsn]

Finally someone who realizes that Carol is an abducted amnesiac who was being manipulated by a military to be a weapon in their blood feud. She was trained to suppress her emotions so she could be controlled.

[@gamblorrr]

nah people were trying to say that bback in the day but idiots would deflect and still say Brie was a shit actress lol.

[@darwinbowman8512]

I just watched this film and can confirm. The girl can act!

[@CrippyReviews-vy4cq]

In Endgame too? 🤣

[@seanmurphy7011]

@Ks-101 Not for her Marvel performance.

[@seanmurphy7011]

Controlling her emotions controls her intellect? It controls her problem solving and reasoning skills? It controls her ability to think critically about who she is a what she is doing? What do any of those things have to do with controlling her emotions? Cope harder, dude.

[@jasonstratton2684]

I will never for the life of me understand how some people would complain about Brie Larson (allegedly) showing very little emotion in this film when that lack of emotion is a major plot point of the movie.

[@ninjanibba4259]

Except she doesn’t in ANY way Look at Alita Battle Angel and see the clear difference of a blank state with a female learning the truth about herself

[@singerdude1992]

@@ninjanibba4259 Except her personality is a blank slate because she was almost entirely wiped of emotions and trained to repress and ignore them. She definitely is emoting through the entire movie, but it's subdued

[@ninjanibba4259]

@@singerdude1992 she’s definitely not emoting at all, even if she was, it’s not explored, I just gave a perfect example of this being done so much better

[@jasonstratton2684]

@deagleninja Yeah, that was the entire point I was getting at. She WAS showing emotion in some parts of the movie. E.g: Her smiling during the opening sparing match of the movie, laughing and dancing during the flashback sequence in the bar, anger and fear after she got shot down by the Kree when she got her powers, crying at her friends house before she changed the colors of her outfit, she also showed anger and determination when she unlocked her true state versus the Kree Supreme Intelligence. But the Kree were trying to condition her NOT to show emotion. If you missed any of that at all during the film, I suggest that you rewatch the film. But you've literally just proved the point of my original post.

[@jasonstratton2684]

@@ninjanibba4259 Yes she does. Rewatch the movie and pay attention to how she is before and after she gets kidnapped by the Kree.

[@LifeWithMatthew]

I always thought one of the big issues with Captain Marvel was it was released between two big avenger movies and it failed to connect them. It would have been MUCH better to have planned for Black Widow during that time and have them examine life during the snap. Instead... well I don't want to assign motives where I can't prove motives, but looking at the movies released around this time it seems there was a bit of a backlash against stuff going on in political straw men in America at the time and I think Cpt. Marvel unfortunately got tainted by this trend needlessly.

[@tortoiseoflegends4466]

It's also that Carol just isn't very interesting, especially compared to some of the characters in her own movie. Talos was an awesome character, Maria was interesting too. it would have been so much better if her arc through the movie was just something as simple as learning to be more assertive and confident.

[@LifeWithMatthew]

@@tortoiseoflegends4466 True and a simple way to do would have been to change one of the fight scenes with Jude Law, let's say the first one. Just have her listen to him and loose. Then at the end of the movie instead of listening to him she blasts him. And look at that we have some minor character development going on here!

[@josephcoon5809]

If, by tainted, you mean Brie Larson hating men, then, yeah, I can see that. 😂

[@josephcoon5809]

@@LifeWithMatthew I liked how her character was developed into another star system in End Game. The cheering for that was glorious!!!

[@EgoHead710]

@@LifeWithMatthew That's utterly stupid, a release date doesn't impact a movie's quality, just accept that you misunderstood the movie and you didn't watch it.

[@j.z.1876]

"You should smile more." "You're too emotional." "You should be quiet." Being talked over. Being talked down to. Having your ideas taken by someone else and presented as their own. Confidence and assertiveness being characterized as "bitchy", "shrill", "whiny", etc. These are all things that would have a lot of women nodding their head in recognition. I would be shocked if a woman reading this hasn't experienced at least one of the above, whether it was directed at them or they watched it happen to another. A lot of the above themes and attitudes were shown in the movie directed at Carol Danvers, which is why it resonated with so many when she succeeded despite the attitudes of the other characters towards her. Why the scene of her getting up every time someone tried to drag her low felt powerful, and why the line "I have nothing to prove to you" struck home. If the exact same performance had been given by a man, without changing a line, inflection, or facial tick, people would probably be saying it was a decent performance. For instance, Keanu Reeves in the Matrix was even more deadpan, and yet the Matrix was highly praised. Tom Cruise in Top Gun was just as cocky, but that's considered a classic as well. Could the movie have been better? Undoubtedly. There are parts where the action falters, the dialogue needed tweaking, and the script could have gone a different way to heighten the drama. But that doesn't change the emotional core of the movie, which is not letting others hold you down and keep you away from realizing your potential. It's something a lot of people needed to hear. Especially girls who want to do something that women have only been allowed to do within the past 30-ish years, like being a combat fighter pilot. Women were first allowed to pursue that career in the US Military in 1993. That's only 31 years ago. I really appreciated the discussion of empathy at the end of the video, as well as adding the historical context. Thank you.

[@josephcoon5809]

Meanwhile, back in reality… Thousands of men out at zero dark theory picking up trash from millions of women. It takes a special kind of world to complain about being told to “smile more.” Some would call it a First World. Anyhow, I miss the Madam Curies of a century ago who struggled against actual patriarchy and contributed more than most men today. It says a lot about people who complain about struggle when they neglect mentioning the great achievements of those who went through actual struggle. It’s all subjective, though. As for being ALLOWED to serve… It was kinda nice getting the right to vote WITHOUT the mandatory requirement of signing up for the draft. So much for equality, eh? My favorite irony of this whole woke infection… whining about cultural appropriation out of one side of their mouth and gate-keeping out the other. What, exactly, are the parameters for when a group of people has their culture protected from appropriation or required to share lest they be branded “gate-keepers”? Cause, here’s the thing… the MCU is a product of NERD culture which was a response to exclusion by the popular crowd: jocks and cheerleaders. Now that those NERDS have grown up and become tax-paying citizens able to grow the behemoth that’s is the MCU, they have their NERD culture summarily APPROPRIATED for the sole purpose of lecturing NERDS about inclusivity. I don’t know how many words and phrases that I used which cause you confusion, so I’ll recommend one phrase for you to look up for your homework… Tone deafness. Cheers 🍻 and you should smile more. 😃

[@animalsrcute5762]

💯So TRUE 💐👏🙏💖💐!!!!

[@Jenniewilde8]

Faxxx

[@Firemarioflower]

Still doesn't make you anything special. Women give men tons more psychological crap but we don't keep a diary of it, we shrug it off.

[@aaronv6561]

Good points for the most part, but to say Captain Marvel and The Matrix are comparable because of the lead is like comparing a ,22 handgun to a 25mm Vulcan - they are both guns (both deadpan performances), but one completely outclasses the other in every respect (script, plot, theme, artistry, etc.). Take that back and repent in sackcloth and ashes.

[@RacingSnails64]

Thank you for all your work man. Love your stuff. As a straight white male myself, you reminded me that I not only liked Carol as a character, I *really* like Carol as a character lol. I love her struggle of trying to figure out her past, that was genuinely moving for me. The montage of her standing up over the years got me good and still gets me good too. I love how her overall arc in the story is about just letting loose and embracing herself for once. Damn Kree! VERY effective conflict there. I even just love her operating in an average scene!! I love her subdued sass and little smirks. She's not boisterous or peppy like I feel most people wanted/expected her to be, but she does have a certain confidence/swagger to her like you said. Her "wanna fight?" before sparring with Yon Rogg at the beginning was the moment I kinda fell in love with her lol. I even love the way she squares up when Talos and the Kree show up, she's got a great battle stance and I love her powers in general. I genuinely can't bother myself to hate her or Brie as people. (I always took Brie's interview humor as sarcastic from the beginning.) Everyone who is mad about them is wasting SO much energy. I will say the way they navigated her in Endgame was very clever--letting her kill Thanos would've been an unsatisfying conclusion for everyone--but I honestly hope they keep working on Carol as a character. Make people love her. Earn it. Push her through some more conflicts and force her to make tough calls and have to step up and be a leader for the Avengers. I don't think she should be "the main character" of the MCU, I think that would more comfortably fall onto Spiderman, but I could see her still being the leader character if that makes sense. She's a good person! She had some small but tender moments in Endgame, such as tearing up seeing all the peoples' identities who had been snapped, not to mention being the first to kneel to help Tony when he collapsed.

[@ferrous719]

Also THANK YOU for understanding that "I'm Just A Girl" was the right choice. It's not a "breakup scene" 🙄, it's not a heroic battle (that's in the simulation), it's a chick who has had enough, saying "Enough". It was PERFECT for that scene. Absolutely flawless.

[@llenlleawch]

Eh... I still think "You Oughta Know" would have done the job with more emotion.

[@lenastorm6280]

16:55 Thank you Marvel, for letting Ronan say „woman“ instead of „girl“! 17:12 I love how Yon-Rogg screams at Carol that she must control her emotions while she is perfectly calm.

[@kittykatb007]

Maybe I am the crazy one, but I did not feel that any of the performance was flat? So many people saying they couldn’t read her emotions made me feel like I had a wildly different experience with this movie. A+ video btw

[@Kanashimimo]

Brie Larson isn't wrong when it comes to critics, just think back to Turning Red and the kind of critics that movie had, saying it was "unrelatable", when it was about a young girl growing up. As an autistic woman, it can be frustrating to read critics and hear viewers praising movies with autistic characters that are bad representation from an autistic point of view (autistic characters being used as props to help the neurotypical character evolve, bad acting, lack of understanding of autism as a whole etc.), while leaving movies with good autistic characters to die in oblivion (I will always be angry about Power Rangers 2017 and how this movie is not getting a sequel). I'd love to have more diversity when it comes to reviewers, who will get what they're been shown and will be able to add their own spin because of their experience. I'm also pretty convinced that the "nothing about us without us" is the best way to get better representation (even if it's just someone on set helping to accurately portray whatever they're trying to portray). Fun fact: for an episode of Dollhouse, one of the characters was blind (long story if you don't know the show, but the character's basically a blank state and memories and life experience are put into them for various missions), and they had a blind consultant helping the actress. After a while, the director decided to exaggerate the blind character's blindness, becauste the able-bodied viewer wouldn't believe that she was supposed to be blind if they didn't. Isn't that infuriating? Anyway, my point is that we definitely need more diversity, and the best way to get that diversity is to involve diverse people on the writing and casting team, as well as other teams necessary to complete a movie/show/whatever. Otherwise, you're just gonna miss the audience you're representing. Even if you weren't targeting them (I'd argue most movies with autistic characters are made for a neurotypical audience), you have to be aware that they will watch your movies and they will see themselves on screen. Telling them that they're a burden on everyone is not the best way to get them on your side.

[@michelletheia9853]

As an autistic trans woman, this, a thousand times this. Depictions of autistics are either the fully internalized, no outside interaction characters that are basically living props and symbols of hardship for their caregivers; or they're socially awkward super nerds with eidetic memories and a "unique world view" that helps their fellows grow (I'm looking at you Good Doctor). It gets frustrating. Then, of course, there's the men jumping at roles of trans women, and women playing trans men, with no input from the community being depicted, let alone actual trans performers. I'm excited to see Patty Jenkins's future projects though. I think she toed the line on keeping dudes interested but less challenged and empowering women (vacillating from one side of that line to the other as she went) .

[@nights_the_nightingale]

My general rule is: If a character isn't relatable, it wasn't made for you

[@Moongirl12121]

I love how nuanced Brie Larson plays Carol, because to me it feels very natural. Being raised as a girl, we aren’t allowed to emote, plus the Kree like you said, have been punishing her when she does emote, so it made perfect sense to me that she would be very subdued, or at least playing the very nuanced game. If you know what you’re looking at, then you’ll see it, but it’s harder if you haven’t trained yourself to look.

[@shiyyymg]

Yes i love this interpretation. I really loved this movie, the storytelling, how subtle they told us she was on the wrong side. I didn’t watch it when it originally came out but I remember all the stupid controversy mainly surrounding her acting with her feelings. But now seeing it myself I can tell she played this perfectly. Women are constantly taught to hide their emotions, to not be so emotional to it react and that’s what she did. Once she finally did let herself feel her emotions she was her most powerful. Such an important and great message. Definitely one of my favorite marvel movies

[@DonnaBrooks]

I don't think girls are less allowed to emote than boys! It depends on the emotion. Boys who cry are often reprimanded & they get a clear message from their peers that being "a sissy" might even get them beaten up! Girls, on the other hand, aren't allowed to get angry. We get accused of "behaving like men" for just displaying our natural personalities & emotions & get called a bitch for exactly the same attitudes as men who are praised for being aggressive, etc. So both men & women are punished for not "staying in their lane" & acting "like they're supposed to." In fact, men die sooner than women BECAUSE they stifle their emotions. If you're a man & you don't feel things, fine, but don't attack men who cry or show tenderness for being "weak." They're probably going to outlive you. I'll take that kind of "weakness". Survival of the fittest (best adapted) & all. Likewise, if you're a woman & actually enjoy being a stay at home mom or being more passive than men, great. But don't curry favor with men by attacking women who are naturally more aggressive or assertive or competitive. And vice versa. I think the error made by most people is just not letting people be human first, experiencing the whole range of human emotions without condemnation or criticism for those emotions or how they interact with other people, unless that interaction becomes violent, manipulative, abusive, or otherwise genuinely harms someone. Today, we seem to have the idea that harming people outside our tribe (those of a different opinion or political position) is justified & heroic, while we won't tolerate anyone offending ANYONE on OUR tribe, even with the gentlest of language & no ill intent. The feelings of people on our side must be protected at all costs. If someone is on our side, no criticism of them is ever allowed, even for egregious & abusive behavior, hate, & threats of violence, while if someone is perceived to be in that other tribe, then they're Nazis or fascists or hateful or bigots. Never mind the evidence. Don't bother reading what some perceived "enemy" actually wrote or even watching videos showing what was said or done & evaluating for yourself if your tribe is engaging in groupthink & you have been believing everything they say without question or asking for the evidence. That's prejudice (pre-judging without knowing all the facts). That's a hivemind. It's so dangerous. Ironically, the very message of Captain Marvel is that sometimes our tribe deceives us & uses us to fight the people THEY say are enemies. It's painful to realize this & admit we've been wrong or that we've been duped or used. But we must if we are going to be "free thinkers" indeed, searching for what is true & good, & not just being "on the right side" in our own imaginations, where we are always "Heroes.... Nobel warrior heroes."

[@kenbrown2808]

the anti-brie larsen argument I found most hilarious was "she acted like she didn't know who carol danvers was" umm... yeah, CAROL DANVERS didn't know who carol danvers was. she acted like she didn't know who she was, because that's how she was supposed to act. next was "but she's a Mary Sue" ummm... yeah. when mar-vel died, she inherited cosmic mary sue powers.

[@AnthonyMcNeil]

I'm glad you brought up emotions and how the movie plays with that theme. It was one I enjoyed and found great that they explored. Carol is human so she is supposed to have emotions. She was trained that they make her weak. As you said, they knew she was way more powerful than them. Also I love the play on emotions when it comes to women as well. Brie plays Carol as emotionless to pull off the tough guy act and because she feels it's a weakness because she doesn't know who she is. Also women are called emotional as a bad thing. It also can be tied to men as well. We aren't supposed to show emotion because it doesn't make us look tough. So it's a great theme that I loved to see. Lastly, I'm glad they showed her OP. I love seeing OP characters. It sucks that people complained about Brie not smiling and being flat because I feel that she was supposed to play the character that way but oh well. Great to have a channel that can talk about some good things when negativity sells better.

[@brigidtheirish]

*YES.* So many people, including some I respect, poured so much hate onto this movie for things that just didn't make sense to me. Like, yeah, she's a brainwashed supersoldier, how did people *expect* her to act?

[@michelletheia9853]

The lives of women are of being told we are "too emotional", when men going around punching drywall and it's "well, he was angry." Men aren't supposed to have "soft, feminine" emotions. No one belittles a guy for showing anger, rage, even aggression (circumstances aside). They might judge him for acting on it, for whom he directs it at, but not for having the feeling or showing it. Any emotion from a woman is "too much". That's what this story is, telling her she has to hide who she is to fit into the masculine/Kree world. They limit her power, then tell her she is only what she is because of them, then belittle her for trying to rely on her own power instead of what they "gave" her (her suit, weapons, and training). For men on a Hero's Journey the story is about going from powerless to powerful, because in the gestalt consciousness the worst thing a man can be is powerless, is weak. For Carol's story it's about overcoming the strictures, bounds, and judgements of the society around her to recognize not only her own power, but the power of relying on and working with those around her. That is the quintessential woman's empowerment story. Not training under a master and becoming better than your mentor, but recognizing, acknowledging, and embracing your own strength, your own standards, your own judgement. And this movie embodies that perfectly, and dudes can't get it because it requires, you know, seeing things from a woman's perspective, and that might lead to realizing all sorts of bad things about our society and their own actions and assumptions.

[@mrahzzz]

100% this. This movie hit me just right, and I think the fact that it dealt so strongly with the emotion issue is why. Being belittled for being a woman and assumed to be emotional is so draining. Also, frankly, there are so many male characters that are praised for the same sort of "tough, emotionless, quiet" schtick, so it was fun and felt novel to see it with Carol as a character. People were bashing her for emoting as much as we see captain america or superman or batman or indiana jones or boba fett, etc etc etc... that felt like just another sexist blow to female and women's existence. Makes me really glad this channel did a wins cover of it.

[@Sojo214]

@@michelletheia9853 The grift pays well. We as men are told to be emotionless, so its somehow good to not emote at all (and as you pointed out, anger is fine when directed at the right things/people, cuz it's what we're good for I guess), but women are supposed to emote less.... no not like that! People are just unhappy with anything that points out these issues, on any level. I think a part of it is that we're all kinda powerless to do much about it. I can talk about how emotions are perfectly fine, behaviors are what you need to focus on, for the rest of my life... but my own footprint on that purpose will be extremely minor compared to the entire effort needed to make that change. Reactionary takes on the other hand are easy. Things already are that way, have been that way, theres history attached to them. Theres "power" in supporting them because you've been "winning" for the past however many years depending on the facet of society you focus on. Plus, you get to point at whatever issue and claim it's a result of that new change... Women are empowered and working? Clearly that's why dudes are lonely! Lack of emotional support and teaching mental health? No, it's the women, obvioisly. Theres deflection, "your problems aren't your fault!", so... it sells well... It's why the various groups such as gamergate have such allure. It's easy to just be angry, it's hard to take ownership and healthy change.

[@HerHollyness]

It’s the exact same criticism that was thrown the way of Kristen Stewart in Twilight and Jennifer Lawrence in Hunger Games. Both Bella Swan and Katniss Everdeen (in the books) are meant to be relatively emotionless characters on the outside. We read their POV and see that they are very turmoiled on the inside but they deliberately keep their emotions hidden (Bella because she’s introverted and Katniss because she self-describes as fiery and hiding her emotions keeps her safe). When the actresses then played the characters exactly how they were supposed to, everyone hated it because they stereotype women as emotional, so seeing a woman playing a role as an emotionless Keanu Reeves-type gets criticised. Larson, Lawrence and Stewart are all still getting s*** for it to this day. It’s internalised misogyny and it’s horrible.

[@WhisperNanny]

I'm really glad you finally did this movie. For all the arguments, I LOVED this movie because when it came out I was finally pushing through depression and it was my first time in years (like 6 years!) that I watched a movie and actually felt something. So it made me sad that everyone went insane over hating this movie because it was just a fun, colorful time for me and I wish everyone else just let it be fun too.

[@Awes0m3n3s5]

Dude, the empathy part got me. I was not expecting a video essay, just another EGA, and I'm here for it! I think the *why* matters, and you being able to express that these are truly your thoughts and opinions on all these movies is also great!

[@staceyw5348]

I adore this film. I think Brie is perfect. One thing I want to point out is that Pancho’s Bar is a nod to Pancho Barnes, one if the first women pilots. Look her up. She is awesome. Also helped pilots in the early stages of the space program.

[@plummet3860]

Shes a toxic cow how can you think someone like that is perfect

[@Bondy222]

I don’t get how you like it

[@vintagezebra5527]

Thanks for the info about the cool Easter egg. I’ll have to share this with my daughter.

[@staceywadsworth2079]

@@vintagezebra5527 Pancho was awesome! She flew moonshine over from Mexico during Prohibition. Ha ha ha. I love her.

[@ahadmerchant7510]

@@Bondy222 did you watch the video?

[@shadowscythes]

As much as I see so many people absolutely hating Captain Marvel's character, I will say that I didn't hate this movie like a lot of people did. But at the same time, I also didn't find it particularly memorable, it was just kind of forgettable to me and her character as a whole is not great. But I don't get ballistic about it lol

[@troywestleybailey]

People hate Brie Larson. She is a bad person.

[@makielcepeda9003]

Yeah I read comics and Captain marvel sucks in the comics as well lol just kind of boring character in general

[@50shadesofgandalfthegrey]

agreed. i felt that they could have done better. and the stories about Brie Larson's behavior on-set didn't help things.

[@users10116]

They did their best portraying a boring characters like captain marvel marvel comics in the last 8 years tried to push her in the a list everywhere but she has horrible and boring story her run are boring to death to read A might even say that her movie is the most interesting story of captain marvel , a don't recommend to anyone to read her comics

[@danielland3767]

Most that hated it where just salty she offended then, I can understand a general criticism about it being a setup for another event. However several movies in the MCU have done that, oddly enough the only 2 that are minority centric (Black Panther & Captain Marvel) are the ones that get the most hate. You can't count a few movies that are used as a plot device for Infinity War or Endgame. Antman And The Wasp, Dr. Strange, also where used basically to set up a character for a event. Ironman 3 set up Age of Ultron & Shang Chi all the way back in Phase 2. To say that Marvel was pushing characters & they were boring in the comics should be used across the board, like every character was that way. Literally Ironman was a unheard of, Thor, Ant-Man, etc.....

[@JR_Donofrio]

Love this channel. With all the bad going on in the world. It’s nice that someone takes the time to point out the positive in movies or tv or whatever

[@marvelstarwarsfan8410]

Yeah we need more positive influence

[@Joreel]

We really do 😋

[@fuzzysteve]

And it's not stretching for complaints. Some other channels try to do that. (you know the one I mean.)

[@indicool]

Everyone wants to criticize because they have a keyboard.

[@nelisezpasce]

He's just defending million dollar corporations

[@ajcharles7373]

This is one of my favorite MCU movies honestly. Yeah, there’s some things I’d fix but I loved the way Brie played Carol. I love the subtle emotional moments and how funny she was. The whole movie was hilarious in various ways. Like Maria asking Talos if he could turn into a filing cabinet. That’s freaking brilliant 😂 She was crazy powerful and I don’t see that as a bad thing. Why would I when we have all these overpowered dudes around breaking so much ish.

[@wilcowan-daly5508]

Once again proving why a channel which started out as a parody channel for a larger channel is one of my favourite channels on KZbin even with out the parody. Keep up the great work man

[@criticalspawnofsatan]

Tho I dont like this movie I will always admire your ability to find the good in movies of all kind no matter what. So many movie channels out there that I watch almost primarily focus on the negativity around the movie. So I am glad that you and your channel exist keep up the good work mate😄👍

[@rusinoe8364]

Pretty much the only good thing I can say about this movie is that CW made a video about it

[@davestephens6407]

Can you make a better one I don't think So who can't criticise👎👎🇧🇧

[@Dilmahkana]

I culled those negative channels from my KZbin watching. And interestingly, I watch movies more positively and like movies more now haha. I've still got critical skills though, it's not like I'm Mr Optimistic now (that's my father!).

[@kingmanic]

@@Dilmahkana Those folks don't deserve the views or the revenue. They are also pawns in trying to tear western society apart.

[@Dilmahkana]

@@kingmanic maybe, maybe not. To me, they're arrogant and lack humility.

[@BboyTev007]

12:45 we need a retroactive win since the actress that plays young Monica is now on the Bel Air reboot, the very show that she was going to watch

[@Someonecalledeli]

I first watched this film in theaters with my family and I remember the joy of seeing Carol fly around and finally realizing her true potential.

[@liztolley8488]

Literally didn't know there was any controversy about this movie. I loved it! It was a little cheesy, with the "human will stand back up" but like you said, that's a lot of comic movies.

[@cheddarbub6324]

Honestly the first time I watched this movie, I really had a good time during the whole thing. Yeah there are problems, yeah she’s OP, but Brie Larson didn’t seem stiff to me (I never saw her outside of here) and was a fun character to watch (I only paid attention to the faults in the first place after people pointed them out and were complaining about things). Overall it’s a fun, carefree spectacle with a subversively powerful message for all people. Once again you’ve made my day with your positive take!

[@mrahzzz]

I have to say, the show One Punch Man made me love a hopelessly overpowered character - they can be fun and done really well. I think that's what happened in this movie - it felt done well, rather than a cop-out, especially when we wave her away as "busy" so that other beloved Marvel heroes can have the spotlight for crazy conflicts for story coherence. When all your heroes are going to win anyway (but we just don't say that out loud), why not have a hero who is just totally OP once she's figured out her powers?

[@jasonsabbath6996]

I worked for Blockbuster and the VHS tapes and DVDs were in the shelf. The boxes were empty, but if there wasn't a box behind it with said media, it was sold out. 😉😊 Loved working there BTW!

[@SinSinny]

Loved this review but I will say some of the movies you listed, where men weren’t mad over a female lead being stronger than men, didn’t receive that type of backlash bc those women were made for the male gaze and men found them sexually attractive. When you look at a lot of the complaints about captain marvels character and personality, a lot of those issues can be pointed to male characters in the MCU yet they’re still loved. I’m not saying captain marvel gets hate bc of misogyny and/or sexism but it’s kinda hard not to see how others think that it is. Also HATED how only Chadwick spoke up for Brie and not the other MCU actors/actresses but they spoke up for Chris Pratt so there’s that.

[@steamboatwill3.367]

Well put

[@Cody_Bryant1776]

We watched very different versions of Alien.

[@SinSinny]

@@Cody_Bryant1776 did I mention alien? I’m confused…

[@gunnarschlichting9886]

@@Cody_Bryant1776 She said "some" of the movies listed. Alien is not part of that group, but something like Elektra is.

[@SinSinny]

@@gunnarschlichting9886 she*

[@Aidscapade71]

Honestly I love this movie. The climax of it all is when she finally starts using her powers. And like being a rollercoaster ride at it's apex, the falling actions are a fun joy ride that I rewatch because it's just so much fun! Endgame did a very similar thing with the end battle. A good chunk of it is just fun joy, it's not tense nor should it be. Every so often I return to this movie because while it may not be for everyone, for me it's great to see a character I love brought to film.

[@kanavkohli794]

I dont like movies where the powers are inside women and they dont use it all along and they need a reason to unlock it, rather than go through some training..just like Mulaan, or many other mary sue movie

[@Aidscapade71]

@@kanavkohli794 I don't recall asking for your opinion haha. Come back when you have an actual hot take, you traffic cone of a human being.

[@Will-fl3hj]

@@kanavkohli794 You mean like Thor? Or do you only complain when movies about self-actualization star a woman?

[@politereminder6284]

Thanks for this I loved this movie, and was surprised by the controversy around it. I particularly loved the toughness of Carol's character. I have spent much of my film-watching life annoyed by films portraying female warriors as sexy and soft , or stupid. There were very few exceptions. I can only think of Ripley and Sarah Connor. The others don't make the cut for me, including Black widow, Wonder woman etc too male gazey for me. .🤷‍♀️ I was hooked by Carol's ugly war scream in battle. I was ecstatic! I remember being so disappointed in WW when gal gadot was making sexy faces _in the middle of a battle_ ! I don't mind a confident smile or smirk, but that was just too male gazey for my liking. I like a female warrior who behaves like a warrior. I could understand people feeling bored or disappointed by the movie, but people acted like Brie larson shot their dog or something. 🙄

[@MsPurplebutterly]

bro i agree with this statement - I love the fact that finally, yes, we have a female superhero who expresses difficulty with emotion, who isn’t so gung-ho and emotional and throwing herself around like a sex icon carol as a character FELT like a person rather than “just a woman.”

[@sonorasgirl]

Same!!! I don’t care if it’s “pandering” - stuff panders to men all the time and no one complains about that. I want to be pandered to too lol

[@josephcoon5809]

“Male gazey” because COMIC BOOKS were marketed to nerds who were rejected by the cheerleaders and bullies by jocks? How often do you use the terms “cultural appropriation” and “gatekeeping”? Are you just as amused at the appropriation of NERD culture to be used as a bludgeon to educate NERDS about inclusion when their culture was the direct result of being excluded? For your next trick, are you going to lecture a victim of a drive by about how shooting innocent people is wrong and that they shouldn’t do that? If so, I’ll buy tickets to watch that train wreck into a dumpster fire full of drowning kittens. Sign me up!!!

[@josephcoon5809]

@@sonorasgirl Men who used to be ostracized boys playing Dungeons & Dragons for 12 hours in their mom’s basement over the weekend. Yeah. THOSE are the men that need lessons in inclusivity. 😂 Jesus, this last generation has gone full Tropic Thunder. The voting age should really be raised….

[@ea6102]

@@josephcoon5809 nerds playing dungeons and dragons have been pandered to for years.. not every movie needs to be about white men.

[@MommaBronkema]

I watched this movie with my 16-year-old self-rescuing princess. We rolled our eyes at some parts and outright disliked others. However, we both smiled through the whole movie. Something about watching this super-powered young woman as the main protagonist filled us with joy. And the Princess went trick-or-treating that year as Carol Danvers, not Captain Marvel.

[@mhawang8204]

I think that's the point of the movie. Captain Marvel is the most powerful superhero in the MCU BECAUSE SHE'S CAROL DANVERS first and foremost. 😉

[@michelletheia9853]

It didn't quite reach "Wonder Woman climbing out of the trenches and kicking @$$ in the town" levels of excitement for me, but the movie hit the same part of my soul. It has done so for lots of other women too.

[@BassLineProductionsI]

Your 16 year old is still trick or treating?

[@mrahzzz]

I'm totally with you. It was ridiculous, some parts were too much, but I loved it and left feeling good. It hit me in the climax that what I was experiencing was appreciation for feeling represented. I certainly love and appreciate and relate to male MCs in fiction that I love, but I was just shocked at how nice it felt to have a "strong woman" being represented as a major franchise main superhero, without it feeling entirely like a stereotype, and without ultimately feeling like it was pandering. Need to go watch wonder woman now - I slept on it.

[@Persholm1]

No offence to what you like, but there are projects with super-powerd young women that are a lot better than this movie, Buffy comes immidietly to mind.

[@MardonNaLou]

I do feel like this is one of those movies after all the controversy has quieted down, people will maybe come around to it. Will it be their favorite movie? Probably not but at least I feel like they’ll not try to actively hate it.

[@armyonpluto]

This is a movie the haters will come around to when there's another feminist female superhero for them to hate on

[@mikeharris6429]

@@armyonpluto nah this will always be shit

[@Ibrahim89578]

Its already happening. With phase 4's diversity people are saying 'maybe captain marvel wasn't that bad' because her experiences with misogyny don't compare to she hulk's and how she retaliates.

[@MardonNaLou]

@@Ibrahim89578 Meh

[@Ibrahim89578]

@@MardonNaLou wdym bro lol

[@gregc8831]

I was unaware of any off-screen drama and I loved this movie. I defer to the Key and Peele sketch with the guy who has no personal opinions to describe how I feel about media influencing personal experience.

[@xavierquiles3037]

I would LOVE to see an “Everything great about Everything Everywhere All At Once”

[@Richard_Nickerson]

Before I watch, I just want to say that the first time I saw this movie, there were several moments where I thought to myself "oh, the sexists are going to make fun of this part." Not only was I right, but about half of them are moments that literally appear in other MCU movies, but didn't receive any ire. Why? Because men did those things in the other MCU movies. One moment in particular is when she just yells at the alien as intimidation while her hands are still locked up. Thor literally does the EXACT same thing, yet I see Captain Marvel's moment used as an example of why her movie's bad countless times while not seeing ANY negative reaction at all to Thor doing the EXACT SAME THING. This movie simply is not as bad as the general public would have you think. They're just very closed-minded.

[@Nonamethankyou128]

Nah it sucked ass. Literally 2 hours of cringe, I was actively looking forward to my next dentist appointment. Absolute fail at a strong female character, 101% the most unlikeable “hero” of all time.

[@Richard_Nickerson]

@@Nonamethankyou128 You're literally just proving that you're exactly the kind of person I'm talking about, sweetie.

[@MatthewMe]

I am a big fan of the movie, and have loved seeing greater representation regardless of whether people say it feels "forced" or not. To be honest, all of Hollywood storytelling is forced. It's a cloth made of choices, even more so when it has a nine digit budget behind it. So yeah, even the eye-rolling parts are fine by me. If it made women feel good to see some version of a struggle they can identify with on a screen, I applaud it. And this movie was full of those moments. On the "other side" of the argument, I'm fine with the your charitable perspective of the anti side - up to a point. Where I stop being friendly is when groups reach the point of organized review bombing and intentional market manipulation. They'll claim "well, the movie is just bad", when it's statistically obvious the IMDB or other score systems have been systematically attacked and abused. You saw the movie and hated it? Fine, drop your one star review and complain in a long-winded rant. Totally understandable. But organizing thousands of people on forums to overwhelm systems - then claiming it as mass evidence of poor quality - is just being intentionally disingenuous and dishonest.

[@Shrilaraune]

THIS

[@ichbinsooocoollul6860]

I really liked the Film and I think its too overhated

[@TheDoctorOfMDMA]

It’s trash. Woke feminist garbage. The first WW is superior.

[@the_boys5960]

I went into this movie knowing all about the controversy with Brie and I kinna wanted to hate it… but I just didn’t? The things the movie did well had me leaving the theatre satisfied. Is it my favorite mcu movie? Naw man, but it’s honestly pretty good and I have returned to it a couple of times now. It’s pretty easy to find the “bad” in film, but I truly think it’s worth finding (and celebrating!) the good.

[@outdoorscholar6016]

I went into the movie knowing about the controversy, but I decided to just put that in a box until I was out of the theater. I get it, people were upset by what Brie said and they have a right to be upset. But I didn’t want to judge this fictional story because of what happened in reality, and my opinion was that of Dyatlov from Chernobyl, “not great, not terrible”. It’s not the greatest marvel movie of all times, but it certainly doesn’t deserve all of the hate that it gets.

[@gregstephens]

An excellent sentiment- "It’s pretty easy to find the “bad” in film, but I truly think it’s worth finding (and celebrating!) the good." Pretty much why I love this channel.

[@RacingSnails64]

It's so utterly okay and functional as a movie that the wave of hate for it seemed absolutely hyperbolic and childish to me. I will admit it gets kinda boring and dragged once she was on earth, but her conflict with the Kree and the Skrull's backstory plot twist I found to be genuinely enthralling concepts. As a protagonist, she was again totally fine. I even liked her! Trying to figure out her history and pushing back against the Kree was something I genuinely got behind. It seemed more like hate for the actress and peoples' fear about her place in the MCU (ie, potentially killing Thanos) that were the driving force of the hate. There's definite poor points like Nick Fury's eye and the cat in general (where did it come from again??), but I'd be *so* hard-pressed to claim the rest of it was outright "bad" lol. I mean come on Brie Larson punches an old lady! Where else are you gonna get that in the MCU??

[@gregstephens]

@@RacingSnails64 Goose the Cat was seen in the flashback with Mar-Vell, so the implication is that they were Mar-Vell's pet or comfort alien.

[@dragonmaster3207]

@@sadtimesalways not really here on a vid to complement the movie, i'd be more courageous to say it's terrible or something of that nature but to each their own. I personally didn't like it but that just my opinion.

[@jockyoung4491]

"People aren't that one thing" -- I am SO happy to hear someone say that. So succinctly summing up what is wrong with discourse in social media (and elsewhere)

[@EgoHead710]

But he's wrong though here because he's essentially downplaying the misogyny for the sake of being nICe which is weak.

[@padams5461]

But did you not notice that he only asked one group, the Brie-haters to a dicussion. They really are a sick bunch, and he wants to know why.

[@thelonelygamer361]

You missed that you could actually see the real old lady getting off the train and that's how CM knew that was the skrull. It's as small detail and it was nice to see. Also a point towards light speed over jumps is when in GOtG 2 they go through multiple jumps they got some strange effects. Showing that they a) sometimes have to do over 700 jumps to get somewhere and b) shouldn't do too many at a time The too dark is seriously a big problem with a whole bunch of movies these days (Horror movies sometimes get a pass depending). That and too quiet when people talk. Personally for me this movie is middle of the pack for Marvel. Not great, but not bad. I get why people would like it more or less. Although earlier this month I unfortunately had to spend an entire day with someone who made hating CM part of their personality. I do hope to avoid that person in the future. ***Slight spoiler for Doc S 2 and Thor L&T*** I personally think that CD being overpowered isn't going to be too much of a problem going forward since there are other character getting just as if not stronger in Doc Strange 2's Wanda and Thor : Love and Thunder's Love ***Slight spoiler for Doc S 2 and Thor L&T is over***

[@Carabas72]

The big edge the engine has over the jump points (particularly from the perspective of refugees) is that you can only jump to other jump points, meaning wherever you go, the Kree can follow you. With an engine, you can go to places the Kree have no way of reaching.

[@LineOfThy]

@@Carabas72 like how an ATV can go off-road and prevent itself from being followed by normal cars

[@RangerCado]

18:00 I always considered that the Light Speed drive was, while maybe on par with the portals for speed, is likely both harder to Track and more freely able to move through parts of space the portals would find difficult, and/or that portals can be blocked. Multiple ways to travel space means multiple things you have to check to be able to spot something is off.

[@AegixDrakan]

Yeah, exactly! It's less about speed and more about being able to live "off the grid".

[@LineOfThy]

@@AegixDrakan which is perfect if you want to help an entire species hide from a literal empire coming after them!

[@AegixDrakan]

@@LineOfThy That's EXACTLY right.

[@dont-hurt-me2519]

Here's my list of suggestions to consider for future EGA videos: -Jurassic World: Dominion (Extended Edition) -Monsters Inc -The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (Extended Edition) -Isle of Dogs -Small Soldiers -101 Dalmatians -Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness -Ice Age -Night at the Museum -Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008 Film)

[@vickyotters9207]

Isle of dogs is so cool!!

[@sasquatchproductions9088]

I'm pretty sure he's gonna have to get to the other Jurassic Park/World movies before he gets to Dominion.

[@codeofclaw]

I’d love a hobbit retrospective after he knocked it out of the part with LoTR

[@karabradley6576]

small soldiers is such a based movie to put on this list

[@elhopper3735]

I was already a huge Brie Larson fan because of her outstanding (Oscar-Winning) performance in Room, so I was super excited that she was joining the Marvel universe. This is still on my top 10 of favorite Marvel movies because I just enjoy it so much. Is it a Brie Larson and Sam Jackson bias? Maybe. But who cares? She’s awesome!

[@pass-the-juice]

i like her in everything except the marvel films which makes me a misogynist alt-right trump supporter apparently.

[@ravendarkholme7971]

@@pass-the-juice no one said that

[@mhawang8204]

@@pass-the-juice Relax. If you're not one of THOSE people who devote 100's hours of their time making content hating on Brie Larson and this movie to turn a quick buck, you're not the misogynistic alt-right nuts people are talking about.

[@jpsun14]

@@pass-the-juice I mean, if the shoe fits... 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Iggystar71]

Me too! I honestly don’t understand the hate for this movie at all.

[@ferrous719]

Carol has been my favorite character for years, and I don't hate what they did with it. The movie is good enough that Pinar Toprak's score makes me cry a little whenever I hear it because that's my GIRL they're talking about there. If you hated Brie's performance because she was unemotional or rude or whatever, the movie isn't for jerks like you who tell women they should smile more.

[@Dessamator]

I just have to say anyone who thinks sexism is 'fixed', I point to Roe v. Wade being overturned. We are losing control of our bodies. I know this is a movie channel, but people getting upset about Brie and her views to try to ruin this movie is B.S. I wish this movie happened when I was a girl. I might have tried to do more in my life before my disability because this would have been inspirational.

[@jordanhigginbottom1185]

I've just rewatched this on an mcu chronological order. The timing couldn't be better

[@trinaq]

Precisely, Ian must have been reading our minds!

[@bobbenson6825]

Maybe someone can explain how "empathy" has become a dirty word; think about the agenda served by so much messaging that disdains it? This was a good vid, thanks!

[@nomercyinc6783]

nobody alive says empathy is a dirty word

[@memerminecraft585]

@@nomercyinc6783 Yeah I'm wondering how this comment got 47 likes

[@michaelfondaw6752]

Having empathy means that you have to acknowledge that you've lied to your heart.

[@aquaposeidon9464]

@@nomercyinc6783 define woke then

[@Justanotherconsumer]

@@nomercyinc6783 there’s plenty of discussion, particularly on a book called the dark side of empathy. Maybe not “dirty word” using that same phrase, but plenty of anti-empathy opinion pieces, particularly those calling it a sin.

[@duanein3d]

This was absolutely fantastic. Thanks so much for this. It’s refreshing, and so needed, to hear any kind of empathy in the geek community these days.

[@zainabjilani3701]

Personally, I loved this Carol and Brie Larson (never knew of her previous stuff before this movie….Brie, not Carol. Brie’s Carol reminds me strongly of a friend I had and this portrayal made miss them. I’m partial to strong/confident, witty, badass characters and I was completely unawares or didn’t let the “controversy “ around Brie’s message ruin her Carol for me. This was easy top if not within top favs immediately. I love the friendly banter and (acting?) chemistry with Carol/Brie and Fury/Samuel…..no need for me to rave on about more what I enjoyed since it was pretty well covered in this video. Keep up the good work!

[@rom4938]

I know this is only a response to one of your points but I disagree about the comparison to Black Widow and Wonder Woman etc to suggest that men clearly don't have a problem with female leads/superheroes. Both of these characters were HEAVILY sexualised throughout their time on screen. They may have been badass fighters (and I love both characters) but they were also portrayed in a way to appeal strongly to men through skin tight or skimpy outfits, flirting, sexualisation, and not being outspoken about anything feminist. Captain Marvel wasn't egregiously sexualised in that way and wasn't put in skimpy clothes or made to be cute/seductive for a male audience, but rather kick-ass and strong for a female audience. That definitely played a part, in my opinion, in why there were so many men online raging about how "woke" and "men hating" the film was and so I don't think you can use those examples to claim men don't have a problem with strong female superheroes. I mean look what happened with the Black Widow movie where they significantly toned down the sexualisation of her character from the iron man films and even made her costume less sexualised - there were a tonne of men slamming the movie and saying it had "gone woke" because to these men, not focusing on making female characters sexy and attractive to a male audience is going woke, apparently...

[@floydb5668]

I was wondering why I hadn’t heard from this channel in a while, this is obviously why. This is an awesome perspective I didn’t consider from a normal viewer who doesn’t make judgments too quickly. You have just brought a new light into what I interpreted as being average. Thanks for opening my eyes again

[@thomasdendtler4077]

It's not a new video. Just an edited version

[@somepseudonym2750]

The movie is average, bad even. He just picks out the bits that can be appreciated.

[@WouldYouKindlyNot]

@@somepseudonym2750 the movie really ISNT bad. It's a solid film. Nothing earth shattering, but it's still fun and has a good message. I'm really tired of the senseless hate

[@somepseudonym2750]

@@WouldYouKindlyNot it's not senseless hate. Well for this film it probably is, just not on my part. I just genuinely think a lot if what marvel has put out is subpar, especially considering the incredible films that have fallen below the radar.

[@Mecha82]

@@WouldYouKindlyNot Same. I found this movie very much enjoyable to watch.

[@Metalders]

When I went to see this movie with my wife I expected two things: 90's references and Coulson alive, and I got both. That was enough for me.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

The 90’s are also a magical place?

[@Metalders]

@@Justanotherconsumer No, that's Tahiti.

[@DigiRangerScott]

11:12 OOF feeling the age of the video right there too. Honestly the pieces that age these videos are FASCINATING. The RehireJamesGunn tract in EGA Infinity War holds up really well just for how much the firing 1) Barely existed 2) Backfired spectacularly and 3) Moved Guardians 3 out of a spot it was going to lose anyway because of COVID. It originally had Black Widow’s May 2020 spot

[@sawanna508]

Thanks for this. "Captain Marvel" is one of my favourite MCU movies.

[@Trilingualeks]

I actually believe there needs to be someone who initially *seems* overpowered because when the big bad comes along, how else will you understand how powerful he is (and therefore how huge of a threat) if you don't have him fight and beat the initally overpowered hero? You really don't realize Thanos' strength with the stones until he goes up against Wanda and Carol.

[@dwightlewis3519]

You're talking about the worf effect and that can run the risk of rapidly turning your characters into a joke if you're not careful. I'd say the fights against Wanda and Carol show Thano's craftiness since they both overpower him easily, he just outsmarted them.

[@Trilingualeks]

@@dwightlewis3519 thanks, I didn't know this had a name ☺️ and I agree, it can very much be overused

[@joeydr1497]

Carols emotions have been suppressed by her kree training, so she reacts to things in a similar way that a person with Asperger’s might due to the way the disorder can sometimes suppress emotions. She definitely emotes to an extent and you can tell.

[@jonathanpayne4772]

I’m expecting great things from The Marvels! Iman Vellani killed it in Ms. Marvel, excited for her return.

[@BeDatAPickle]

Same

[@robertrowley4929]

Likewise

[@rodrigocampillay7722]

You should make an EGA Arcane (Season 1). We all have been blown away by how Bloody Good it was. So many League fans dumbfounded by it, and many more Non-League fans with no know-how about it (Including me) infatuated by it. I have never seen a show that it's so Bloody Good in every single aspect you can think of; from it's Plot, 2D/3D Animation, Voice Acting, Characters, Music and many more. Every single frame and image, a Masterpiece done with such love and care. Give it a shot to it, you'll love the s**t out of it. I would love to listen your insight about it, man.❤🙏🙌

[@toddjordan2198]

I grew up in a multi-generational military family and have been around it my entire 57 years. Has anyone ever known a militant special forces badass to be anything other than cocky, arrogant, and emotionally stunted? I haven't known a single one, and I've known many. They're training is to be ruthless, efficient, and emotionless. You complete the mission and survive, nothing else. It's no surprise many of them have severe PTSD and emotional trauma in later years with a high suicide rate. Carol Danvers was exactly like those people for the first 3/4 of the movie. Anyone who criticizes Larsen's acting because she was locked into that necessary mindset is a moron.

[@Jabersson]

The falling-then-standing-back-up shots were all shown in the trailers, really gave away what they were trying to do and took away the emotional impact for me (and I take it a lot of others).

[@rhodriwilliams2599]

Re-watched this recently and it’s pretty good! I enjoy it more than a lot of marvel solo movies, excited to see more of Captain Marvel and see some development

[@Artakka.]

Your speech at 31:32 is beautiful. Far too many people are too quick to define the experiences of others without any comprehension of said experiences themselves. - a trans person

[@asciishallreceive3871]

This is one of those movies where I was lukewarm at first, but it feels good to watch again every time. You politic takes at the end are great in my opinion.

[@grizzledsentinel4691]

I think what you are overlooking in the "controversy" here (and I mostly ignored the gamergate folks so there wasn't a controversy without them) is that the issue people have with this particular female lead is that she was coming in as being more powerful than the male heroes that they identified with. The examples you mentioned didn't contain that element. If they did an atomic blonde/John wick mashup and made her demonstrably stronger than John Wick, the same folks would lose their minds. It is all silly anyway, Iron Man is magic and can do everything the plot requires and fix everything. Doctor Strange is magic and can do everything the plot requires and fix everything. Hulk is magic and can do everything the plot requires and fix everything. Thor is a god who is magic and can do everything the plot requires and fix everything. Absolutely none of them make any sense if you stop and think about it. Thing is, people accepted all of them but then reacted at this. Dr Strange is extremely OP but didn't get the same reaction. I think that the actors involved are far more correct about what was going on whether or not you like their responses. I didn't bother with any of that until after I watched the movie. It is just odd though, I don't like any of Clint Eastwood's politics or what he says but why would I let that effect my enjoyment of a movie he's in (or a movie he directed which he is also excellent at)? I mean, I get not wanting to watch a movie because the director/actor is a terrible human being. I watched the 9th Gate before I was aware about Polanski. I still think it was an excellent movie, I just won't watch anything else he's done. But if they just have political opinions that I strongly disagree with? I can ignore that and focus on the movie.

[@survivordave]

The problem with that analysis is that Iron Man, Dr Strange, Hulk, and Thor fight things in the same or bigger power scale. Iron Man fights things with even better tech than his suits. Dr. Strange fights evil deities and the most powerful witch in the multiverse. Thor fights other gods. The standalone Hulk movies flopped way harder than Captain Marvel did, so Hulk is counterevidence to your argument. Fanboys DIDN'T like that OP man. In any case, Hulk is physically OP but not in a super useful way. Few of the threats the Avengers face are seriously threatened by a superstrong giant in a blind frenzy. He contributes to the team but causes as many problems as he solves so he doesn't FEEL OP in the same way Captain Marvel does. Captain Marvel in her own movie never fights anything that is even close to equal to her power level. Once she comes into her power, there's nothing in the movie that can remotely challenge her. She's Superwoman in a universe without kryptonite. Add onto that that she's an unlikable character for a lot of the film and it's easy to see why people didn't like the movie. This isn't to say that I didn't like the movie. I thought it was fine, and understood that being emotionless and unlikable was what her character development was overcoming. But I agree it would have been nice to see her fighting something that was out of her league powerwise.

[@grizzledsentinel4691]

@@survivordave My point is that there is no such thing as an equal power in this universe where all of the characters can do whatever is required to win every single time. I mean, take Infinity War as an example. They had Black Widow fighting super powered aliens and holding her own. Does that make sense? Hell no. They had Iron Man take a moon to the face. Is there any universe where a suit would protect you from that damage? No, that isn't how physics work. Our bodies are still squishy. Even if your suit was fine you would be a puddle in the suit as your body was bashed up against it. I mean, cars are designed to protect us in ways a suit which fits around your body could not and people don't walk away from 90 mile per hour crashes with a tree. Imagine a 600 mile per hour crash with a moon. I get the point that she is superman and doesn't fight anyone of her power level but nobody in these movies do. They make zero sense and all the characters are magical and can do whatever the plot asks of them regardless of whether it makes any sense. You have hulk who got an OD of radiation which obviously would kill any human but magically turned into a being with muscles which don't conform at all to logic. None of the fighting he does in the original avengers movie is possible. At the very least with Thor they don't try to hide that he's a magical super being by pretending that science has anything to do with it so the laws of physics can go right out the window without having to struggle so much for a suspension of disbelief. I just don't see how she is more OP than characters who have zero limits when the plot requires them to do something. If anything, the writers are just a bit more honest about it. As for her not being likable, that's just a matter of opinion I guess. She's a snarky asshole who is a bit too full of herself. Of course, that is 100% the description of Tony Stark and Doctor Strange. I'll admit it turned me off of Ironman a bit in the beginning but I eventually got over it so I was fine when Doctor strange and then Captain marvel rolled out with the same character traits.

[@dwightlewis3519]

@@grizzledsentinel4691 I very much enjoyed Captain Marvel but I think the thing that gets me and weakens the finale of the movie for me personally is the way in which she wins. She just kind of flies through everything. It just kind of feels lazy on the part of the film makers. That's more of a nitpick than anything else though. I will say that I loved how she was used in Endgame because she saves the day but at the same time is used to show that brute force isn't enough to put Thanos away for good. I will say in comparisons to other characters in the OP category, Carol stands at the top and in not necessarily the most satisfying way but that's not her fault since she hasn't had enough time on screen. When you mention Dr. Strange as OP, that feels more informed than really anything shown on screen. In his two movies he didn't win so much as he made his opponents give up since he couldn't meaningfully hurt them. He lost to Thanos, but everyone lost to him, and he got outsmarted and trapped by Spider-Man. It happens with most of the other characters. Tony doesn't overpower Stane, Vanko, or Killian. Thor can't beat Hela. Hulk spends most of his time getting beaten by anyone who isn't a foot soldier. The only exception to this is Cap and that's because he mostly fights people with guns. Black Widow got whooped by Taskmaster, drew with Yelena, and beaten by the other Widows. Carol just kind of walked through everyone but I'm sure she'll get a challenge whenever her sequel movie/series comes out.

[@grizzledsentinel4691]

@@dwightlewis3519 Carol got captured in this film. Then she got captured again by the Kree AI before she broke free. Don't really see any difference there. In the first avengers movie, they literally have Hulk just diver through a metal alien ship. Don't really see any difference there. Nobody has to like any of these heroes. For instance, Iron man/Dr. Strange/Captain Marvel are all basically exactly the same personality and I can certainly get someone not liking the personality. It took a long time for tony stark to grow on me but I was more willing to accept Dr Strange when he came along with the same smarmy know-it-all asshole attitude. Captain Marvel was more of the same. If anybody disliked all 3 it would make perfect sense. I just don't get singling out Captain Marvel when everyone before levels up in power as the plot needs them to and she does the same. Her personality and Dr. Strange's personality were basically the same as Tony Stark although perhaps a bit muted. As long as people are consistent in acknowledging that she's really not any different than the others, then it is fine to like and dislike any of them. I just don't like it when people have an adverse reaction to her and struggle to justify that emotional response by pretending to be logical. Just own up to the reaction and move on, there actually isn't anything wrong with that.

[@dwightlewis3519]

@@grizzledsentinel4691 If it means anything, I don't find Hulk particularly fun to watch when he fights, I prefer Banner. Me personally, I like Carol as a character. I prefer a character who doesn't downplay how great they are and she's less abrasive than Tony and Strange. I'm a Spider-Man fanboy and his whole shtick is being annoying. I saw Captain Marvel in theaters and this was coming off of Infinity War. I feel that Captain Marvel is a good movie that unfortunately has to exist in the greater context of the MCU and I think this messed with my enjoyment of the film since I felt I had to balance it with the rest. It made me feel about Carol what I felt watching Superman in the theatrical cut of Justice League, this character feels story breaking. Superman just shows up and stomps out Steppenwolf while everyone else was getting beat down. You mention Carol being more powerful than the male heroes and I can agree with that being a key thing upsetting dudes. Me personally, the problem wasn't gender as much as it was introducing the far and away strongest Avenger for the first time just before the big finale but that's something to blame Marvel Studios and Disney for. At the same time it's unfair to pick on Captain Marvel. Thor can now apparently just give anyone his powers now without weakening himself. That's not anymore ridiculous than Captain Marvel.

[@slkrsmobile]

Oh man, could you do an Everything GREAT about Agents of Shield?! That show was great and definitely deserves more love and videos about it ;) I know the show is gigantic, so maybe just highlights or focused on a single season/arc like the Agents of Hydra arc? That had some of the best acting and emotional moments from everyone I think.

[@steveo1552]

Enjoyed this movie, and loved your analysis. I have no idea why there was anyone who hated this.

[@jeast417]

It's the combination of feminist pandering mixed with mediocre plot and writing and an insufferable actress. Add on top of that the movie was pushed as must see to understand end game, and it clearly wasn't must watch

[@jaysax7381]

@@jeast417 except that means nothing anymore because people call anything with a woman front and center “feminist pandering”. Most of the vitriol was petty and overblown hatred of Brie Larson, combined with nerd rage whenever someone said they actually liked the movie, not legitimate “critique”.

[@jeast417]

@@jaysax7381 or maybe that's just your perception of what people are saying bc most articles straw man their critics so they don't actually have to address the issues with the movie. Brie is insufferable as a person and looking past that the character in this movie was written very weakly with a ton of pandering. But the biggest issue is that it was presented as must watch to understand end game

[@coltonkleins]

@@jeast417 lmfao nah you're just an incel with a blind hatred for females, the movie has nothing to do with feminism, literally just how they introduced her into the mcu and show strong she is

[@steamboatwill3.367]

@@jeast417 ) so are the "critics"

[@Ibrahim89578]

I could never understand how some people would complain about Brie Larson showing very little emotion in this film when that lack of emotion is a major plot point of the movie. She's been trained and brainwashed as a warrior and the villain, 'Yon Rogg' - someone who Carol trusts a lot - commands her to supress her emotions which she does because if she doesn't obey command. the Supreme Intelligence would take her powers away and she would be worthless. She still has outbursts of emotion which Yon Rogg manipulates until eventually Nick Fury, Maria Rambeau & Talos unlock and harness that emotive side to her. Besides, Carol's emotive language throughout the film was through micro-movements and eyes that you could clearly & easily see through, facial movement, eye positioning, glances & body language. Even in her human flashbacks, she's very bubbly, charismatic and stands up for herself and Carol affirming her name is 'Carol' and not 'Vers' shows she's cut herself from the Kree propaganda and the Supreme Intelligence's lies and the montage of her proving she's human still gives me goosebumps. Unfortunately, that minority of fans that despise her describe her as 'cocky or arrogant' when she's neither of those things and is actually sarcastic, sweet and stands up for herself. From the years of 1995 to 2018, she goes from unaware of her self-maintenance, capabilities, power & humanity to acknowledging all of that and being very self-aware. She's still flawed and I believe, just like Ahsoka Tano, she'll go from a some-what likeable and flawed character to a strong & powerful character but not just from their abilities, powerful from their actions and words. Not everyone can relate to a hero but everybody can be inspired by them and I hope that's the case with Carol in the future as she's so harshly judged from only two appearances. On a positive note, the films pacing, visuals, characters, directing and sound track were amazing. I always get goosebumps (no pun intended :)

[@Allmenroder0854]

Brie is a phenomenal actress and honestly I blame the writers for probably telling her to show little emotion (or not giving clear/good guidance on how to act out Captain Marvel)

[@swanpride]

@@Allmenroder0854 I actually blame the editors, because the emotions are there, but the cuts are often so fast that it is hard for the audience to notice.

[@Ibrahim89578]

@@Allmenroder0854 Brie is awesome but she's constantly received hate from the toxic side of the marvel fandom for petty reasons & interview moments taken from their respected contexts however people don't give this same treatment to people who actually deserve it such as Ezra Miller. She's a talented actress and I don't blame the directors/writers of Captain Marvel. She portrayed what was a complex 3 dimensional character using micro movements or quick glances. I think she had the toughest job and did it amazingly. Yeah, both the film & character are flawed but I think it's a top 3 MCU flick. And as for the character, she'll get development throughout the course of her journey in the Mcu. I just recommend people to watch the film without any negative mindsets and taking it in as a new experience with an open mind.

[@Saje3D]

Carol is a phase 5 hero, designed to go up against larger threats than Iron Man and Co. She seemed overpowered for a phase she wasn’t designed for.

[@Tanstaafl_74]

Technically, so is Dr. Strange if faced with an enemy that fits his realm of expertise, I.E. Magic threats. He is literally the last line of defense from specific kinds of incursions. He's a magical nuke. But in his own movie he's played off as just a kinda powerful, but cocky idiot. The Hulk was destroyed by the MCU. He has one storyline, that Ragnarok paid a bit of homage to, called World War Hulk where he literally kicks the crap out of ALL earth's heroes. In the comics Thanos and Hulk have thrown down several times, sometimes Hulk even won, but in the MCU he's ganked easily. So, why, when all these super powerful heroes were so carelessly powered down for the movies was Captain Marvel kept at full power? Edit: After rereading this I feel like I should say that I would feel the exact same way about the apparent powerlevels if this had been a Sentry movie and he had been kept at full power instead of powered down like those who came before him. Given the subject matter of much of this video it felt kind of pertinent.

[@misterdayne2792]

Certainly hope you're right, it's gonna be tough writing an interesting super hero movie if said hero wouldn't be bothered in the slightest by the biggest of baddest, or if it would take a reality breaking item to even push them back.

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

@@Tanstaafl_74 the thing is, Carol *was* powered down to keep in line with the MCU. Is she, so far, one of the most powerful characters we've had? Yes. Is she unchanged from her comic powers? No. If she was, movie Thanos wouldn't have stood a chance. Just like Vision and Scarlet Witch have been powered down(and Tony has been powered up) Carol has also been powered down. Friendly reminder, she basically single handedly defended against a brood invasion in the comics. That is NOT something that MCU Carol could do.

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

@@misterdayne2792 friendly reminder that even Carol couldn't take on Thanos, so you have nothing to worry about.

[@Tanstaafl_74]

@@casteanpreswyn7528 They never really fought. The one time they clashed she slapped him around a little and he hit her once. Sure, it was hard enough to knock her back, but that doesn't mean a damn thing at their relative power levels. They did that on purpose, not having them actually duke it out. It kept a bit of mystery as to what level they're actually going to settle on for her. The only real evidence we have of her power is one battle in modern day MCU and a whole movie when she was just learning that hey, she's kinda special. So saying she's been powered down isn't really an accurate statement. The accurate statement is that the directors and writers have gone to great lengths to keep her actual power level in the MCU somewhat under wraps.

[@elizabethfahrlander6224]

As the target demographic? No Doubt’s “Just a Girl” was EXACTLY the right song choice in that moment. I SCREAMED with joy in the theater. Thanks for being so positive and loving movies.

[@itzJuztThomas]

I saw this movie 6 times in cinema. I genuinely loved it.

[@camdiaz7935]

Glad you're safe Lee! Thank you for continuing to be one of my favorite channels on the inter webs! I love learning about film and how to be a better writer, and you are a great teacher, even if teaching was not your intention. Thank you for doing what you do Mr.Wins!

[@goosie8207]

I loved this movie. A trans girl born in the 80’s, got to love a bunch of strong women plus a lot of nostalgia from growing up 😊. Also, Neo is relatable to a lot of people because he’s a blank slate, including those of us who struggled with our identity as we could see ourselves in it, and I bet the directors did that on purpose.

[@starryagent9936]

After Matrix Resurrections, you need to get around to Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. That’s one recent movie that deserves the EGA treatment

[@shadowscythes]

I second this

[@rogueguardian]

For sure! Loved it and obviously being that Sam raimi directed it there will be a ton of Easter eggs and references to his past work.

[@Carabas72]

@@rogueguardian And its not even the watered down Sam Raimi that did the Spider-Man films. It's the Evil Dead guy.

[@averymerrick]

Word of God: On the obvious question of why Fury didn't page Carol for the likes of the Chitauri invasion or the war with Ultron, Kevin Feige simply stated "Who says he didn't?" *Her next appearance backs this up as Carol says she’s been extraordinarily busy looking after a bunch of planets who don’t have the likes of the Avengers protecting them.*

[@miriam8376]

This is an outrageously fantastic, well-thought out video. You put a lot of things into words that I had difficulty articulating.

[@thelorax9622]

Thanks for the mea culpa on Mendo's age and nationality. We're about 6 months apart in age, both Australian, but he has lived a much more interesting life than I have. Also, unlike most of this comment list, I liked this movie and have no problem with Carol being a badass from the get go.

[@GuardianGrarl]

Finally, a video by someone who put effort and time into unironically saying something positive about a movie and spreading some joy about it *applauds*

[@redtutel]

I find it troubling that stoic and/or cocky male characters are admired, but female characters with those traits are scrutinized. I’m fond of Captain Marvel, both the character and the movie. I love the cast and the story. And I think some gold old fashioned 90s girl power is nice every once in a while

[@13thxenos]

I find these kinds of comments sexist. There are a lot of cocky female characters that are not hated. Fans love many of them. There are examples shown in this video alone. Yet, some assume that captain marvel's gender is the only reason people hate her. I personally hate this character because of the unearned place at the top that CinemaWins pointed out in this video. But I love plenty of cocky female characters, like Black Widow in the MCU, or Angelina Jolie's Lara Croft.

[@steamboatwill3.367]

@@13thxenos ) how is it "sexist"? and idk, too many awful guy characters are either praised or ignored.....

[@ephemispriest8069]

She's just kind of a selfish asshole. That's what people don't like.

[@blinkachu5275]

@@13thxenos Just because YOU don't hate Captain Marvel because of her gender, there are TONS of people that did hate her because of her gender. There are so many videos out there hating on her as a woman. Also, how is it unearned? That's like saying Hulk's power is unearned. They both didn't ask for it, both had to learn how to deal with it.

[@FiryaFYI]

@@blinkachu5275 nobody hate her gender. get over yourself already. she is hated by a large amount of people, from both genders, for a reason. that "its just misogyny" crap never held any water. black widow was loved. until shes a gains, white man bad. howkaye was loved. until hes a side character in his own show and his younger female sidekick is the lead. captain marel is strog, but also an asshole. none like asshols just because they are strong.

[@Swollenfish]

I’d love to read an essay written by you about the nature of empathy and humanity. I was legitimately enthralled by your segment there about empathy.

[@DonnaBrooks]

Thank you for this. I loved Captain Marvel. I saw it several times. That scene of her breaking free from the Supreme Intelligence took so much strength of will & I love seeing her get up again & again throughout her past. Also, the music in that scene was FANTASTIC. I found it to be inspirational. The Bree Larson hate was (& still is) irrational & channels fueled that fire for clicks & Likes. Stoking hate for profit is despicable. And now, a PSA: Hating someone because your tribe hates them, while they deliberately misrepresent the person, doesn't make you right or justify your hate. It makes you a tool who refuses to think for yourself & break free of the Borg. Whether it's the Hate J.K. Rowling Borg or the Hate Brie Larson Borg, it's still a borg. It's irrational & unjustified hate that you refuse to let go of because of peer pressure. It's being told what to think & never questioning those telling you what to think or insisting on evidence & evaluating it objectively. It's petty. Put that on your tombstone: "Here lies ____, who spent their lives being petty & hating people who didn't deserve it." That's your legacy. That's what you did "with your one wild and precious life."

[@CaptainPikeachu]

I’ll be honest here, the Brie Larson hate/drama never made any sense to me. Even IF there’s issue with her delivery, the message of it wasn’t wrong and anyone who knows the message ought to be fine with it because they’d know that the film industry and film reviews have their issues and biases that need to be fixed with more representation. And as for how people viewed her, there’s certainly plenty of armchair psychologists and behaviorist making videos about how she seems but I feel like everyone forgot that when this stuff was being talked about, Don Cheadle publicly defended Brie and called out that folks were taking her interview behaviors out of context. Confirmation bias is a thing, people were wanting to find things wrong with Brie. And while I do understand that you’re trying to see all the sides and the nuance, I think it is incredibly important to note just how vitriolic the hate got for her, or how certain big KZbin channels would literally make dozens of videos day in and day out just trashing everything about her and influencing people’s perceptions through lies. You bring up other female superhero or lead films, and yes they didn’t get this kind of backlash but it’s important to also remember that people aren’t threatened by female heroes as long as they stay in their lane. Or rather, the actresses stay in their lane. Women can be allowed, but in conditional ways that doesn’t “bother” or “upset” certain people. The female heroes/actresses in the MCU before her didn’t directly speak out about issues in any “threatening” way, they stayed in “their lane”, but like you said, Brie spoke, and she spoke directly in ways that directly threatened white male hierarchy in the industry. She didn’t stay in her lane and just let things be what they are. By voicing it, she put an issue into the spotlight that some folks didn’t want to necessarily address. And it’s also important to note that many of the films you did name with female leads are also female characters made with a male gaze in mind that tends to sexualize the characters as desirable. Carol is not made with that in mind, and in fact outright goes against that viewpoint by simply just being her, not smiling, not desirable, and stating “I have nothing to prove”. Yes this film wasn’t hated solely because a woman is leading, but it is being hated on because a woman spoke up in ways that some people (often men) did not like and was not traditionally appealing or conforming. And the reaction was to try to bury the movie and the actress. THIS is how women can be treated in various spaces that may be dominated by men. What happened to Brie and this film is a microcosm of what happens when women do speak up in ways some folks deem “inappropriate” or “incorrect” or “undesirable”. Now is this movie some groundbreaking thing? No. It’s just a decently made film. So I don’t really care if people like it or not, but Brie Larson was given entirely unproportional hate and for what? Because she pointed out an issue in the industry that made certain people uncomfortable about their privilege? Even if the movie doesn’t deserve much, Brie deserved better than people trashing her and trying to tear apart her whole personality because she dared to speak to a real life issue that effects people still to this day.

[@Sh4dySam]

I really enjoyed this entire episode. Thank you for the time and effort you put into your videos

[@LeV01D]

You are definitely right. Its sucks how we live in a world where men blame women and women blame men and one race or belief to the other etc... It honestly does suck and wish we didn't have to live in a world so divided because "Someone said something I don't agree with so now I need to attack them with more of my opinions (Or just brainless verbal abuse), I just wish everyone would not necessarily all just get along but respect the other persons belief or idea (And no I'm not saying if they believe in being racist or sexist that it is good). Love you CW!

[@ephemispriest8069]

Yeah, it's pretty disgusting that calling a bad movie bad gets you called a misogynist/racist/etc.

[@steamboatwill3.367]

@@ephemispriest8069 ) it's not that simple

[@swanpride]

@@ephemispriest8069 Which nobody did. You will get called a misogynist, if you call a movie bad with misogynist arguments, not because you simply didn't like it. And pretending that you are somehow not allowed to dislike a movie for other reasons plays in the hand of people who do use those movies to fight some sort of culture war (or, to put it differently, to create a outrage culture in order to pull people to the right). Since I keep an eye on such channels and I am pretty sure I have seen your name in the comment section there...I don't think that you have much of a leg to stand on.

[@ephemispriest8069]

@@swanpride Bad faith arguments don't get much consideration from me. You make a lot of empty allegations as well. Is anyone supposed to take you seriously?

[@ephemispriest8069]

@@steamboatwill3.367 It really is. Look at the response to critics of "Black Panther". That film was godawful on so many levels.

[@HerHollyness]

I see your point about people not *openly* saying they didn’t like this movie because the lead is a woman, but a lot of the subtext is misogynistic or at least an expression of internalised misogyny. The examples you gave that no one objected to mostly weren’t leads - Gamora is a secondary character in GotG, Black Widow in IM2 is basically a background character, Wasp is a co-lead at best and there was criticism of Wonder Woman by a very vocal minority (and she wasn’t even the lead in her own movie - she was a co-lead with Chris Pine). The misogyny for this movie is subtle but it’s there, even if it’s not explicit. It’s the exact same criticism that was thrown the way of Kristen Stewart in Twilight and Jennifer Lawrence in Hunger Games. Both Bella Swan and Katniss Everdeen (in the books) are meant to be relatively emotionless characters on the outside. We read their POV and see that they are very turmoiled on the inside but they deliberately keep their emotions hidden (Bella because she’s introverted and Katniss because she self-describes as fiery and hiding her emotions keeps her safe). When the actresses then played the characters exactly how they were supposed to, everyone hated it because they stereotype women as emotional, so a woman playing a role as an emotionless Keanu Reeves-type gets them criticised. Larson, Lawrence and Stewart are all still getting s*** for it to this day. It’s internalised misogyny and it’s horrible.

[@dejahdanger]

I loved captain marvel. And your wins were solid and entertaining, as always.

[@jjanglesandfriends]

I would point out that every other female hero you listed that didn’t get hate were either love interests or heavily sexualized. Like Gamora, Wonder Woman, or Black Widow in Iron Man

[@EgoHead710]

Wrong WW2 received a lot of hate.

[@jjanglesandfriends]

@@EgoHead710 I believe he was referencing the first movie. I’m aware of the hate for the 2nd. I wasn’t saying Captain Marvel was the only woman hero to ever get hate. But when Wonder Woman 2 got hate, people had very clear and existing reasons like the weird sexual assault aspect of the movie. One of the major waves of hate for Captain Marvel was around likability. The other women heroes didn’t struggle with that despite being arrogant or temperamental too. I’m suggesting them being love interests affects what they’re willing to accept from a female character sometimes. Honestly a lot of fans decided Zendaya’s MJ was only likable once she was turned into a love interest

[@EgoHead710]

@@jjanglesandfriends Sure I guess but W.W2 is nowhere near C.M, same goes for W.W1 tbh.

[@tinseltina]

THANK YOU! also a bunch of those female characters weren't the main characters either, it was a dude who was just as, if not more bada-s than her. (disclaimer, i didnt hear ANYTHING about alita battle angel at the time, so i cant speak on that movie) point is, there are more factors as to why those female heroes were acceptable vs the controversial captain marvel.

[@171QA]

Thanks for putting this up.

[@marcusjavierflores9006]

This video is the best explanation on the philosophy of cinemawins and why it's my favorite film channel. Talking about out-group mentality, empathy, and why the worst movie can be someone's favorite gives such a great look at how to look at movies in general. Tbh it's why I feel so annoyed by cinemasins videos, aside from the fact that I think cinemawins actually does analyze the movie in as many components it has--vfx, camera work, plot, acting, etc, cinemasins feels superficial and one-note.

[@RegrettableDeed]

That conclusion made me tear up multiple times again. You're speaking from the heart and it shows.

[@Phoenix-sb6hl]

First things first for me - I saw this movie 5 times in theater. I do still love it. Of course it has its issues, but I genuinely enjoy it through and through. The writing leaves much to be desired and they definitely could've tried a bit harder to ground Carol, but as it stands, I love it. I will say, something I feel needs to be added is how the LGBTQ community latched onto Carol, specifically Carol & Maria that I haven't seen happen much in the MCU except for Valkyrie. That to me is sort of a gray area, because as incidental as it was, a lot of people (me included) read a lot into the brief glimpse of Carol & Maria's relationship that most just overlook because they haven't HAD to look for scraps in every interaction. This isn't meant is a jab, it's just truth. Whatever your feelings are towards canon Marvel ships, most of the former leads have/had someone regardless of how it served the story, made sense or even had basic chemistry for that matter. Most of my favorite Marvel movies don't - CM & Ragnorak as obvious examples. I for one am extremely excited for The Marvels, granted it could be absolutely garbage and I'd still probably love it if it meant there's more development on Carol's dynamic with Monica - and personally ecstatic at the rumors of a Maria flashback and rumors of Valkyrie making an appearance. If people hate it, great! I couldn't care less, I personally relate and identify with Carol in ways I never could with most any other MCU character. Some of my least favorite MCU movies are hugely popular, it's simply just taste & boils down to character preference and truly how directors/writers interpret them

[@EgoHead710]

Why does she HAVE to be a lesbian though??? Why can't she just be asexual, and besides, asexual folks don't get that much rep in media.

[@noahzinar1178]

PLEASE make an EGA WolfWalkers, Power Rangers (2017) and E.T. The Extra-terrestrial!

[@adventurekitty1016]

Wolfwalkers needs some attention! Movie is great!

[@joe3019772008]

in the comics, captain marvel male or female was way over powered. people who were complaining about this film never read the comics which showed how their attitudes was their weakness and their indefinite stupidity towards anything they never actually did their homework on first before shooting off their mouths.

[@gabrielespana319]

But her attitude in the movies is never presented as a weakness

[@heroic_antagonist759]

@@gabrielespana319 her attitude isn't to different from Tony stark tbh

[@gabrielespana319]

@@heroic_antagonist759 well yes but that's treated as a weakness of Tony's character that he overcomes throughout his movies

[@heroic_antagonist759]

@@gabrielespana319 I'm gonna be honest I haven't seen the Iron man movies so I'm just going of the avengers(-minus infinity war and endgame) and captain America movies

[@macmcleod1188]

@@heroic_antagonist759 hey Bears watching. Tony pays for his overconfidence and arrogance. More than once. Ask Gabrielle says, it's a liability as well as the strength. Two of the three movies are about Tony losing everything because of his hubris and then clawing his way back up to even. And it was clear from interviews that Morgan Downey Jr loved the customers. And that he played the character for his kids which was endearing.

[@mryoungandbrave1]

Clarifying on the Blockbuster thing, I was born after 2000 and I remember going to pick up, and later drop off movies, it went out of business in 2014, wasn't that long ago, and yes you did have to bring the empty case up to the counter to pick up the actual tape.

[@JeanLucPicard85]

Maybe it's because I'm an introvert but I really enjoyed Brie's subtle emotiveness. The little smiles, raised eyebrows, intense stares, I loved the quiet understated swagger. In any case great overview of CM.

[@SDfan2002]

This is unironically and unapologetically one of my favorite MCU movies.

[@David-kd4qr]

Cool! Not mine, but it should be a plus that we all like different things. I hate mint-chocolate which is great because it means there is more for everyone else! Too many people think that everyone should have the same tastes.