Everything GREAT About Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness!

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CinemaWins

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Жыл бұрын

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Doctor Strange 2! Another one that I was surprised some people really seem to hate! Are they wrong? Am I wrong? Will you find these questions and more answered in this video!? You'll have to find out! Here's everything right with Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness!

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@DEDManGaming
@DEDManGaming Жыл бұрын
Dr strange possessing his own dead body from a different dimension while cloaked in the souls of the damned is the most Sam Raimi thing to ever exist and I love it so much.
@thejaded
@thejaded Жыл бұрын
This is very much so a Sam Raimi film. I love anything he touches lol
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement Жыл бұрын
Seeing mf Zombie Strange done in a way that naturally works for the plot was amazing.
@fayesouthall6604
@fayesouthall6604 Жыл бұрын
Me too. Lots of people are sniffy about this film. I bloody love it.
@Player1Nolan
@Player1Nolan Жыл бұрын
@@thejaded is
@sammeyphammey349
@sammeyphammey349 Жыл бұрын
That was my favorite chekhov’s gun that I’ve ever seen
@justintallman3398
@justintallman3398 Жыл бұрын
"Just because someone stumbles and loses their way, doesn't mean they are lost forever" is fanservice in a movie literally based in fanservice, and yet it still choked me up in theaters.
@theilluminatibenefactor
@theilluminatibenefactor Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Dude literally said the same exact line in Days of Future Past.
@averagenoah
@averagenoah Жыл бұрын
@@theilluminatibenefactor that line, the cartoon theme during his entrance, and the yellow wheelchair. I was welling up with excitement since, since, when he wasn't in the intro shot, I thought they had cut him out of the movie, then he came out. Btw nice choice of a profile name
@dereksantillan6297
@dereksantillan6297 Жыл бұрын
"Movie literally based in fan-service"? This isn't No Way Home trash bro
@Robert399
@Robert399 10 ай бұрын
Tbh I didn't like it. It feels like pure fan service - it doesn't seem natural in this scene. The original is possibly my favourite movie scene. That line (and the previous line: "Sometimes we all need a little help") is about finding a reason to have hope and endure the pain of caring in a world full of human-caused suffering. That's relatable to anyone who pays attention to the modern world. In Multiverse of Madness, the line sounds like a half-arsed justification for trusting Dr Strange (or, given his telepathic powers, a completely unnecessary justification). Which makes it obvious fan service that just distracts from the scene.
@SirsasthNigam.
@SirsasthNigam. 7 ай бұрын
it sums up phase 4
@rogueguardian
@rogueguardian Жыл бұрын
"Good there will someone left to raise them" the delivery from Elizabeth is so spot on and genuinely so sinister. She really eased right in to the supervillain role.
@dr.jessemr.hayden575
@dr.jessemr.hayden575 Жыл бұрын
And I honestly think that if the mother wasn’t alive she’d probably say something like “Well, that’s unfortunate”
@MsDaydream3r
@MsDaydream3r 10 ай бұрын
That quote is definitely the kind of rationale Magneto would use. Like father like daughter. 😉
@fayesouthall6604
@fayesouthall6604 7 ай бұрын
She’s got delusional but my goodness you feel her pain
@TreyWarren-wp8rs
@TreyWarren-wp8rs 4 күн бұрын
@@dr.jessemr.hayden575or she’d say I can be there mother 😂😂😂
@bgarcia179
@bgarcia179 Жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Olsen’s acting was the highlight of this film for me. The fact that I still sympathized with Wanda after everything she did is a testament to her acting chops
@fayesouthall6604
@fayesouthall6604 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@xeven1
@xeven1 Жыл бұрын
then the director did a great job because in an interview the director said that they want the audience to relate and sympathize with a villain that they already love and thats what happened to all of us ❤️
@TaGF_Tomcat
@TaGF_Tomcat 7 ай бұрын
I think it says more about you than it does her lol, playing with an entire village like puppets is way over the line. Murdering warrior monks who protect the world from ancient mystical threats so you can murder a child is just straight up villainous.
@TimDaco
@TimDaco 3 ай бұрын
100% Agree. Wanda Defender Forever!
@peytonaubin2532
@peytonaubin2532 Жыл бұрын
I legitimately never realized Wanda absorbed Captain Marvel's powers in their fight. It seemed crazy that a big statue was able to crush her to death at the time. Makes sense now though! Thanks for pointing that out.
@TheAdarkerglow
@TheAdarkerglow Жыл бұрын
Because, and hear me out here, she might not have. It's absolutely not described, mentioned, or otherwise elucidated in the film. She could have used up all her available energy, we don't even know if she works the same way as Carol Danvers (there's behind the scenes commentary that she doesn't). So, whether or not Wanda stole her power; probably not, she doesn't use said powers, and the movie implies heavily she'd gain powers if she absorbed them from someone else, a'la America Chavez; the movie still fails to inform the audience what's going on. His praise is made up in his head because it makes the most sense to him.
@CaptainPikeachu
@CaptainPikeachu Жыл бұрын
@@TheAdarkerglow the visuals make it rather clear
@MrEMC_
@MrEMC_ Жыл бұрын
​@@TheAdarkerglow Or, and hear ME out here, you just didn't listen to Lee actually explain the visuals on the screen
@Chazbc
@Chazbc Жыл бұрын
@@MrEMC_ The film didn't do a very good job of conveying what was happening there. It's obvious once you've been told, but it's difficult to even catch those visuals on your first viewing. All it would've taken is one medium close up of Captain Marvel trying to use her powers and realizing they were gone before getting smooshed. Wouldn't be surprised if that part was originally longer and got cut down.
@Bilbo51
@Bilbo51 Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikeachu Semantic Dragon's point about Wanda never using Captain Marvel's powers still stands though. If she absorbed them, why did she never use them again?
@Alterego912
@Alterego912 Жыл бұрын
Here's a win you missed: the 838 Tommy and Billy were watching an Oswald the Lucky Rabbit cartoon instead of a micky mouse cartoon. Could that imply that Oswald never faded into obscurity in 838?
@exceedcharge1
@exceedcharge1 Жыл бұрын
Or walt never lost his copyright
@jordansweet8054
@jordansweet8054 Жыл бұрын
Wow!
@Alterego912
@Alterego912 Жыл бұрын
@@exceedcharge1 that, too.
@emilymarley4505
@emilymarley4505 Жыл бұрын
Hope so :'))
@wichygirl2204
@wichygirl2204 Жыл бұрын
Why couldn't we live in that world?!
@thatdarnskag5043
@thatdarnskag5043 Жыл бұрын
Actually went in completely blind, I’m in the theatre thinking “Hot dang, this director is a huuuge Raimi fan! I can feel the Raimi style throughout this.” Then I saw the credits 🤦‍♂️
@Izzybellebelle
@Izzybellebelle Жыл бұрын
💀💀
@mingfanzhang4600
@mingfanzhang4600 Жыл бұрын
I invite everyone to read the holy Quran ☪️☪️
@MsKeylas
@MsKeylas Жыл бұрын
@@mingfanzhang4600 and I invite you to go autofellate yourself.
@pmpowalisz
@pmpowalisz Жыл бұрын
@@mingfanzhang4600 as I repeatedly reply to Christian replies, go preach where you are wanted! I get that religion can be important to many people, but there are times and places, and online comment sections for non religious content is NOT one of them.
@ZesPak
@ZesPak Жыл бұрын
Same here. I've sworn off trailers for about a decade now (mainly because of MCU and the tendency to spoil half the movie in them) , love going in blind. Was also surprised with the Jim en Picard cameos, fun!
@axiosomega
@axiosomega Жыл бұрын
I like how the musical note fight seems like a call back to Strange’s knowledge of music from the first Dr. Strange.
@grandpagohan1
@grandpagohan1 Жыл бұрын
Really wish it lasted longer. It was such a cool idea.
@GuardianGrarl
@GuardianGrarl 10 ай бұрын
Now am no movie writer or music expert but if good Strane really wanted to end that fight with 0 chance of getting countered, it would have been like Good Strange: Feel the power of Beethoven. 5th Symphony !! Sinister Strange: Good but not enough. I counter with Bach. Toccata & Fugue !! G.S: Time to end this. Take some more Beethoven !! S.S: You really think this is going to scare me ?? G.S: This time its Ode to Joy.
@SinHurr
@SinHurr Ай бұрын
@@GuardianGrarl Gaben sie One Winged Angel bitte
@humanoid251
@humanoid251 Жыл бұрын
What I love about this movie is that it feels like what a Dr. Strange comic should be. Steve Ditko and Stan Lee created these comics while high on acid in the 60’s. And the transitions in this movie are not only horror homages but feel like comic panels. And don’t even get me started on the absolute acid trip of a sentence that is the description of Strange’s dreamwalking scene: “Doctor Strange possesses his own dead body from another universe and then uses the souls of the dammed to make a cape so that he can fly to Wundigor Mountain to fight the Scarlet Witch to save Wong and America Chavez”
@matthewchurchyard8552
@matthewchurchyard8552 Жыл бұрын
Honestly soo agree - watching this in cinemas felt for me one of the first times a comic came to life.
@brandonhey7797
@brandonhey7797 Жыл бұрын
it's Wundagore
@andrewt6802
@andrewt6802 Жыл бұрын
Also, "damned" in this case should be spelled with an n.
@bibrosko
@bibrosko Жыл бұрын
@@matthewchurchyard8552 i also agree. I also think that maybe thats the reason so many people didnt like it
@joelectro8319
@joelectro8319 Жыл бұрын
It just sucks that the script is so weak and that it felt like strange was a side character
@danielwilliams8162
@danielwilliams8162 Жыл бұрын
14:44 Fun fact: the theme that plays after Wanda kills Captain Carter is Wanda's original hero theme from Age of Ultron! (also composed by Danny Elfman) It's played in a minor key here, maybe to symbolize her distancing herself from the Avengers since the first hero she fought alongside was Cap, and now she killed a Cap variant, sort of severing her ties with the Avengers
@jazzsenford3310
@jazzsenford3310 Жыл бұрын
Tracks to listen to side by side are: Ultron-Twins (Avengers: Age of Ultron) listen at 3:05 Illuminati vs Wanda (Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness) listen at 1:40
@jazzsenford3310
@jazzsenford3310 Жыл бұрын
I was meant to add, those are the times for the songs NOT this video
@carlosrivas1629
@carlosrivas1629 Жыл бұрын
Its that experience that reminds her to catch the Sheild and throw it back.
@Izzybellebelle
@Izzybellebelle Жыл бұрын
@@jazzsenford3310 I just went back to listen to it, that’s really cool. It’s so similar but just in a different key.
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 Жыл бұрын
For those wondering why wanda turned evil; it takes YEARS to work through trauma, so even after the events of wandavision, she's mentally vulnerable, and The Darkhold corrupts people like that. It turned a non-sentient robot into a sentient one bent on world-domination. I have no problem believing it could revert her back to the Bargaining stage.
@kateorgera5907
@kateorgera5907 Жыл бұрын
I believe it, as well, it makes sense. I guess I just wish there had been a better transition on screen, instead of having to rely on guessing what happened offscreen? At the end of Wandavision, she seemed determined not to be the bad guy. She let go of her family. To the viewer, it looks like she immediately went back on that, even if you can come up with reasons after the fact about what happened offscreen between Wandavision and MoM. Perhaps a montage of her waking up crying from seeing her sons in her dreams (instead of just the once), or a montage of her costume becoming darker as the Darkhold influences her more, or even a monologue where she really shows the pain of trying to do good and getting punished for it all the time. I don't know.
@xger21
@xger21 Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of it comes down to how one viewed the end of WandaVision. My wife watched WandaVision, but didn't watch Doctor Strange 2. After I saw a lot of the criticisms around Wanda's arc, I asked my wife if she thought Wanda worked through her grief and was okay at the end of WandaVision. My wife said no chance, and then I explained the basic idea of DS2 (she doesn't care about spoilers for the movies) and for her, that arc made complete sense. I agreed with that view. If a viewer came out of WandaVision thinking that Wanda had worked through her grief and was okay, the change here seems abrupt.
@hkfifty871
@hkfifty871 Жыл бұрын
@@kateorgera5907 Agreed. The ending of WandaVision left it open for Wanda to become more of a villain with taking and studying the Darkhold, so although it DOES still make sense, it was a bit of a shame they didn’t flesh that out a bit more before kinda just dropping her into being the villain in MoM. Because despite her ongoing issues and trauma, the ending of WV really felt like she was trying to NOT be the bad guy and willingly decided to give up her “family” because she had imprisoned Westview in the process and she recognized that was wrong, so it can then seem a bit jarring and contradictory to have made the jump offscreen to now being willing to murder countless people for her own selfish goals.
@apoorvsingh4459
@apoorvsingh4459 Жыл бұрын
@@xger21 so true! I believe she would have got over it If not for the darkhold. She just didn't get enough time to process it all and then darkhold got to her, which amplified her grief and wanting to find her kids even more by showing her visions of her kids in other universes
@perigraph6644
@perigraph6644 Жыл бұрын
@@kateorgera5907 , Wanda waking up hit me much harder the second time I watched it, in ways I'm not sure a montage could have achieved. A montage could communicate the weight better in the moment, which is useful if you don't intend to watch a movie more than once, but I think this choice had its own advantages.
@mitchellconner6928
@mitchellconner6928 Жыл бұрын
Another reason I thought as to why Wanda turned so quickly at the end was, when she saw how her kids looked at her, she knew that even if she got them back, she still lost them. There was no going back to how things were anymore for her.
@xacmashe3852
@xacmashe3852 10 ай бұрын
In other words the Darkhols "possessing" her was bullshit.
@user-eo8ve9pl8y
@user-eo8ve9pl8y 10 ай бұрын
​@xacmashe3852 you say that but this has happend in many comics where a villain has a last second change of heart and in film as well, Doc Ock in Spider-Man 2, Peter getting rid of the Symbiote in the comics (616 and Ultimate) and in Spider-Man 3, (not comics but Frodo throwing the ring in Mt. Doom) etc. Just because someone is under the control of something doesn't mean they can't have a last minute snap out of it moment to do a self sacrifice win but if you hate those kindas of tropes then I feel you lololol its not the best plot device at times esp with how WILD Wanda goes in this one lol its like Spider-Carnage in the 1994 show where he talks to Uncle Ben for like 3 seconds and decides to no longer destroy the multiverse lmao😂
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, Rachel McAdams has played the love interest of a time traveller five times now ("Doctor Strange 1 and 2," "The Time Traveller's Wife", "About Time" and "Midnight in Paris", yet she never gets to travel in time herself.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Rachel McAdams is a fantastic actress
@royalblue5367
@royalblue5367 Жыл бұрын
She was also in the only good episode of What If..?
@thesevibrantnights
@thesevibrantnights Жыл бұрын
She's a phenomenal actress!
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
@@royalblue5367 Dr Strange Lost his Heart instead of his hands. Great episode
@stickiedmin6508
@stickiedmin6508 Жыл бұрын
That's *_right!_* That _was_ her in About Time! I'd managed to completely forget about that one. Well, that's my evening's viewing decided - thanx Bud!
@ronanthesuperginger
@ronanthesuperginger Жыл бұрын
Honestly Anson Mount as black bolt is such a good casting he’s a great body actor, you can read so much emotions from his facial expressions alone
@Flashback007
@Flashback007 Жыл бұрын
Anson Mount was one of the few things that actually worked with Inhumans.
@ronanthesuperginger
@ronanthesuperginger Жыл бұрын
@@Flashback007 exactly, I really hope he comes back in the future.
@theilluminatibenefactor
@theilluminatibenefactor Жыл бұрын
I honestly believe BLACK BOLT using is supersonic voice to kill SUPREME STRANGE is also a genuine apology to everybody who watched the ABC Inhumans show and thought it's shit.
@BlackHedgehog
@BlackHedgehog Жыл бұрын
He really was the best thing to come from that show we don't speak of.
@joesaint777
@joesaint777 Жыл бұрын
I like him too, alot. Hell on wheels is great. but man... blackbolt is a big joke in this flick
@alexdurain3753
@alexdurain3753 Жыл бұрын
What sold me on Wanda as the villian, is Mrs. Olsens acting, the script, or both. I don’t think Wanda believes herself when she says “I’m not a monster.” She’s just so caught up in her goal to obtain her kids that she doesn’t acknowledge it. Only when they confirm her fears does she finally cave.
@apoorvsingh4459
@apoorvsingh4459 Жыл бұрын
That moment of realization really hits hard
@mingfanzhang4600
@mingfanzhang4600 Жыл бұрын
I invite everyone to read the holy Quran ☪️☪️
@sdsdfdu4437
@sdsdfdu4437 3 ай бұрын
​@@mingfanzhang4600 no thanks
@thstan4062
@thstan4062 Жыл бұрын
Wanda was surprised that Peggy didn't manage to catch the shield like Steve would've.
@derigel7662
@derigel7662 10 ай бұрын
cause the writing is trash
@mottom2657
@mottom2657 9 ай бұрын
@@derigel7662 This is why you and I aren't film writers, friend!
@ItsNatt09
@ItsNatt09 Жыл бұрын
Zombie Strange is visually my favorite thing in the whole MCU. The detail, the way the souls of the damned make the arms pose. The eyes when he dreamwalks into the body is the the most Raimi thing to ever Raimi
@DEDManGaming
@DEDManGaming Жыл бұрын
Ha, I said something similar
@LiamGuerry
@LiamGuerry Жыл бұрын
For Earth 838, everyone is dressed in dark colors because the pollution in the world got so bad, the atmosphere started to break down. To combat this, Reed Richards came up with the idea of planting plants on buildings and everywhere possible to create more oxygen. Everyone in the universe wears a hat and carries an umbrella because of sprinkler systems on the roofs of every building which go off very often to keep the plants alive. I think the deeper meaning for the costume styling in 838 is awesome
@hummingbird1375
@hummingbird1375 Жыл бұрын
That is so cool, I didn't know that
@JulianM-zd8hf
@JulianM-zd8hf 11 ай бұрын
What does that have to do with dark colors
@MewMewSun
@MewMewSun 11 ай бұрын
​@@JulianM-zd8hfless dyes used to make clothing? I'm shooting in the dark here
@xacmashe3852
@xacmashe3852 10 ай бұрын
Firstly this isn't in the movie. Secondly what does this add to the movie.
@tortis6342
@tortis6342 10 ай бұрын
@@xacmashe3852 It could have been in the director's commentary or an interview or maybe borrowed from the comics. And either way, it's just a neat little fact that enhances the movie for those in the know.
@caryndreams
@caryndreams Жыл бұрын
I didn’t catch it in the movie but it stood out in this amazing breakdown - how America saw Billy and Tommy with their mother. And how she was helping a mother missing her children when she, a child, was separated from and missing her mothers. There seems to be a symmetry there in those scenes.
@darkpaw1522
@darkpaw1522 Жыл бұрын
The movie came out in May. Namely, it released 2 days before Mother’s Day.
@rogueguardian
@rogueguardian Жыл бұрын
Good catch that's pretty cool.
@fiery1223
@fiery1223 Жыл бұрын
@@darkpaw1522and Multiverse Of Madness M O M MOM
@darkpaw1522
@darkpaw1522 Жыл бұрын
@@fiery1223 Yup. Nailed it.
@obesus787
@obesus787 Жыл бұрын
I think what really sells Wanda as a villain is that she fully acknowledges (not directly) that giving her America is only for the greater good because she will actively destroy the universe unless she gets her way. She is incredibly selfish and deluded, and most of her motivation in all her appearances has been revenge. It's extremely on brand when you realise that probably her first truly selfless act was killing Vision, the man she loved, and couldn't get him back, and every time she's done good things, she's the one who pays for it.
@mellemadswoestenburg1296
@mellemadswoestenburg1296 Жыл бұрын
Well i would say freeing the people of Westview was also completely selfless. Even though Wanda never meant to hurt them in any way she still did. And when she realized what the hex was really doing she had a complete breakdown and immediately tried to fix it. There was nothing to be gained from it. She sacrificed everything she wanted. Her home, her husband, her kids, her happiness, everything, to save these people from a terrible fate she unintentionally brought onto them.
@noavink1
@noavink1 Жыл бұрын
i think MoM had the best stylization of an mcu movie in a while. it really felt like a comic book on the screen. its script was the right balance of corny/fun, the scenes with wanda at kamar taj was so exciting. i just think being called multiverse of madness, and only seeing 2 other universes, all serving the same plot, and being released right after the fan fav everything, everywhere, all at once, which did 5 different plot lines at the same time, didnt help it one bit
@zebraman1154
@zebraman1154 Жыл бұрын
First thing I said after watching was. "That felt like a comic book movie more than any other one so far."
@iraford5788
@iraford5788 Жыл бұрын
Agreed most definitely.
@ninjanibba4259
@ninjanibba4259 Жыл бұрын
The fact you think Everything Everywhere All At Once is worse than this movie says alot about your standards of scriptwriting of storytelling
@Kimtroverted
@Kimtroverted Жыл бұрын
@@ninjanibba4259 I suggest you read what they wrote again. They're saying that the fact MoM released right alongside Everything really didn't help, since it had a direct parallel to be compared to.
@nerdthatcantfit1079
@nerdthatcantfit1079 Жыл бұрын
@@ninjanibba4259 they literally said that the movie did 5 plot points all at once and used the multiverse concept much better then MOM so it coming out before MOM didn’t do MOM any favors as they said
@dirkloyd6018
@dirkloyd6018 Жыл бұрын
my favorite thing about this movie was just how much it FELT like a comic book. the corny lines, nearly nonstop action with weird-ass sequences interspersed. they managed to translate pulpy comics to the big screen without directly adapting a storyline we already knew (afaik) - like secret wars or demon in a bottle - so it just felt like a grand extension of the greatest parts of comic books. i loved every minute of it.
@bibrosko
@bibrosko Жыл бұрын
yes!!! it was so great!!
@bullrun2772
@bullrun2772 Жыл бұрын
Yep and nobody is ready for it
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 Жыл бұрын
1:04 That line's a callback to No Way Home. "In the grand calculus of the multiverse, their sacrifice means more than their lives" is what he says to peter about the multiversal invaders.
@graham6096
@graham6096 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's exactly what I thought as soon as I heard it 💫🌟🎲⚖️🥁♾️
@kitty97able
@kitty97able Жыл бұрын
This all could've been avoided if someone had asked Wanda "how are you?" "Are you feeling ok? Do you need anything?" And therapy
@MoonWielder
@MoonWielder Жыл бұрын
Hands down, I really loved the part when both America Chavez and Doctor Strange were both traveling through the multiverse. Just from that, you can tell that they were having a bit too much fun with the CGI. Such a beautiful sequence that was added to the movie!
@Devon.with.an.i
@Devon.with.an.i Жыл бұрын
Should’ve been the whole movies though. It is called “multiverse of madness” and the multiverse was shown for 15 seconds. It was still cool, just underwhelming
@SaiyanQuad92
@SaiyanQuad92 Жыл бұрын
@@Devon.with.an.i Same. I wish we saw more universes
@VNKNOWN_TX
@VNKNOWN_TX Жыл бұрын
@@Devon.with.an.i just like “age of Ultron” shit lasted a week lol
@ubermaster1
@ubermaster1 Жыл бұрын
@@VNKNOWN_TX The Hump Day of Ultron
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
I loved that sequence
@TheU1timates
@TheU1timates Жыл бұрын
I think one thing I would have added about “Strange holding the knife” is part of him learned to let go of that knife during No Way Home. That line in the beginning with Defender Strange is almost word for word what our strange said to Spider-Man. I think he learned to trust America (or at least it started the process of him learning to trust) because Peter proved him wrong in No Way Home. That he doesn’t always have to be the one to make that choice. That he can learn to count on others. But that’s just my opinion 😊
@The-Middleman
@The-Middleman Жыл бұрын
I’d go even further and argue that he already learned that lesson back in his debut film, specifically when he literally handed Dr. West _the knife_ to perform surgery on The Ancient One. Am I right or am I right?
@rasengan7738
@rasengan7738 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but remember that in No Way Home he removed Peter Parker from everyone's memories (including himself), so all interactions of him with Peter got cut and only the ones of him under the mask were kept. So, in a way Dr Strange still thinks he has to do all the heavy lifting but in the end he still does what his gut tells him (a little bit of the all knowing book too if he perhaps caught a glimpse of it) and trust America to save the day.
@luigiboi4244
@luigiboi4244 Жыл бұрын
That's something some people might have a gripe with, but not me specifically: the movie makers keep on forcing him to relearn the same lesson repeatedly.
@mackenziehunter4593
@mackenziehunter4593 Жыл бұрын
@@rasengan7738 But here's the thing, just like with MJ still wearing the Black Dahlia necklass, the idea that he learned from Spider-Man about trusting others would still be there despite him not knowing where it came from.
@iantophernicus6042
@iantophernicus6042 Жыл бұрын
I realised a fun thing about Spider-Verse and Multiverse of Madness. Kingpin and Wanda are defeated in the same way, but differences in how they are defeated fascinate me. Miles inadvertently showed Kingpin that bringing his family back won't work, as Kingpin will always make the same mistake. Even worse, every possible varieant of Ruchard and Vanessa saw the side of Fisk that he tried to hide from them. America directly shows Wanda how far she had fallen, in the hopes of bringing her family back. She used Billy and Tommy to show Wanda that any attempt to bring them back using dark magic will ultimately make them turn on her. The interesting bit is that the shock of having her sons turn on her may have been enough to shock Wanda out of trying again, but unlike Fisk, only this version of Billy and Tommy turned on her. SO. The possibility exists that Wanda could try again, to grab a version of her children who never saw what she became. This fascinates and disturbs me.
@freedompancakes301
@freedompancakes301 Жыл бұрын
I personally think when Wanda was talking about how she was “meant to rule everything” I think she was being honest about the fact she doesn’t care about ruling the Multiverse. She does however use it as justification for what she’s doing. I.e. she thinks ‘since I’m owed the Multiverse but I’m just asking to kill two people so I can be with my kids I’m being reasonable. And thus you by denying me, a destined Multiversal ruler, what I am asking, you are being unreasonable.
@apoorvsingh4459
@apoorvsingh4459 Жыл бұрын
It is more of how darkhold has influenced her mind to justify her actions, rather than it being herself truly.
@raeje
@raeje Жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved this movie. One thing I am surprised you didn't cover in it though was the recurring line of "Are you happy?", and how both Strange and Wanda both had to end up letting go of what they thought they needed to be able to start moving towards that.
@rogueguardian
@rogueguardian Жыл бұрын
I know this movie got somewhat mixed reviews but I got some praise for it 1. Sam the man Raimi directing was a big yes for me. 2. Elizabeth Olsens easily gave her best performance as Wanda. 3. The crazy psychedelic visuals turned up to 11 from the first movie. 4. Danny elfman's return for the soundtrack. 5. And of course the horror elements make this movie stand out more than most. Edit: Almost forgot the cinematography is some of the best in the MCU.
@thepumpkinking1841
@thepumpkinking1841 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is an underrated Movie!
@Iliadic
@Iliadic Жыл бұрын
I love the horror elements. I'm not usually a fan of horror, but something about slight horror elements in superhero films really makes them good. Aquaman had those creepy sea creatures, Snydercut Justice League had DeSaad and Darkseid and the end of the universe, MoM has just...Wanda spaghetti-ing Mr Fantastic, exploding Black Bolt's head, cutting Captain Carter in half...Then going back into the past a bit we have Spider-Man 2's Doc Ock origins with the claws acting like snakes with a POV shot. Something about using Horror elements in a generally fairly tame universe just really ups the stakes and makes it feel more real. Even in the comics they're not afraid to show blood, or even kill their characters. [SPOILERS AHEAD] In the Civil War comic arc from the mid 2000s, they ......................................................................................KILLED GOLIATH USING A ROBOT THOR
@Mister_J.
@Mister_J. Жыл бұрын
My #1 no for this movie was americas character, it truly didnt feel like someone who we could sympathize with. Shes just a kid from another universe who is getting chased by someone who is truly broken. All america did in the movie was kill her mothers and almost get killed a lot of times.
@MatheusPereira-kl5tc
@MatheusPereira-kl5tc Жыл бұрын
Raimi was this movie's MVP
@thelittleorangefriend393
@thelittleorangefriend393 Жыл бұрын
When you let a director direct rather than breathe down their neck, you usually get a good result. When that director is Sam Raimi doing an MCU movie, you give him beats to hit and tell him “Have fun with the rest of it” and in classic Raimi style, he has fun with it
@renehenckens
@renehenckens Жыл бұрын
Scarlet Witch was one of my favorite Marvel villains. So terrifyingly dangerous
@AngeloBarovierSD
@AngeloBarovierSD Жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Olsen's Wanda Maximoff is an acting dream role. Henchwoman, to refugee, to heroine, to small-town villain, to big-time villain, to repentant, sacrificial villain. All through a lens of pain, love, and trauma but carried on broad shoulders. Such a Shakespearean arc. Or, perhaps a (naked) Chaucerian arc. And the very best magic gestures yet committed to screen. She'll never win any prestigious awards for it, but Elizabeth Olsen gave flawless performances as every incarnation of Wanda. I really hope we haven't lost her.
@mellemadswoestenburg1296
@mellemadswoestenburg1296 Жыл бұрын
I consider Wanda in WandaVision more of an anti-hero rather than a straight up villain considering she never meant to hurt anyone and was completely horrified when she found out what she was really doing but other than that, yeah totally agree. Elizabeth Olsen is an absolute Queen. Whatever emotion she needs to portray, whatever kind of direction Wanda's character takes, she NAILS it every single time. She's most definitely coming back. And now that she's most definitely gonna be a heroine again i can't wait to see her redemption arc unfold. She has truly embraced her power and the possibilities are endless.
@noahthecraftsman6886
@noahthecraftsman6886 Жыл бұрын
One thing that I loved so much were the reversing yet parallel arcs between Wanda and Strange. The entirety of Strange's character, as you stated throughout, was his constant need to be "holding the knife". Always putting the outcome first, and lost his own personal life, represented by Christine, through that. He travels the multiverse and sees what dangers his obsessive dedication can bring, with Defender Strange attempting to sacrifice America, Illuminati Strange causing the incursion, and Sinister Strange destroying his universe after losing his mind over his unhappiness. Our Strange realizes his life will require more balance, that he's not a heroic machine but should shed some responsibility before his work makes him lose himself. On the other hand, Wanda pushes the boundary for her own happiness. With no regard to any greater good, she blindly pursues her children without consideration of their current happiness in illusion that its for them when it is for her. I consider myself a Wanda defender, less of an apologist, but Wanda moved towards irredeemable territory with mass murders at Kamar-Taj and killing the illuminati. But her children being scared of her pulled the veil back and she was able to realize what irresponsibility she displayed with her power and sacrificed herself(?) to eliminate any possibility of someone following her path
@Izzybellebelle
@Izzybellebelle Жыл бұрын
Wanda had nothing to lose and I think she realized that after Westview. Like if she did (which she did) try and get her kids back from another universe, and it didn’t work, she would be left by herself again, but no one that she loved will get hurt cause they’re not existent. And if it works she’s happy. But as we saw she’s like shit I need destroy the darkhold, which I think she wanted to die in that moment, but now we don’t know where she is. I hope this makes sense idk if it does.
@misterrkalebhimself
@misterrkalebhimself Жыл бұрын
Above all else, it felt nice to have an MCU movie with this much style. Sam Raimi’s fingerprints were all over this one, and I wouldn’t have it any other way.
@LTDextel
@LTDextel Жыл бұрын
The shot direction in this film is AMAZING. Also love the music fight. So freaking good!
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Same. Loved that scene and the direction and cinematography
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯👍👍👍
@jcrews8582
@jcrews8582 Жыл бұрын
If only the music fight lasted longer, instead of being so disappointingly short!
@fahimalfaisal7781
@fahimalfaisal7781 Жыл бұрын
@@jcrews8582 not every action scenes needs to be painfully long !
@Vaguelocation3612
@Vaguelocation3612 Жыл бұрын
Just realized that the line Wanda said about Strange breaking the rules and becoming a hero while she’s becoming the villain might’ve also been a nod to ponytail strange. I also really like this as a movie following no way home just because that whole movie though a bit questionable in its delivery at times was in part about Stranges willingness to sacrifice others lives for the greater good vs Spiderman’s and Aunt May’s not to. I feel like it all flows really well.
@Lechuga1815
@Lechuga1815 Жыл бұрын
16:43, Wanda being an unstoppable pursuer, her red eyes, and her limp definitely make this a Terminator reference.
@adambump5297
@adambump5297 Жыл бұрын
I really like how this Movie explained how dreams are windows into the Multiverse which is why and how dream walking works it's a really cool concept it's so fascinating.
@TorIverWilhelmsen
@TorIverWilhelmsen Жыл бұрын
However, it would have been better if they linked that to Nightmare (one of the primary of Strange's enemies). Having it be linked to multiverse instead of having the Dream Dimension kinda writes him out of the MCU.
@L1701
@L1701 Жыл бұрын
@@TorIverWilhelmsen Not necessarily. Nightmare could be a cosmic being that resides between the universes and maintains the dream links between them.
@furiousgamerxz5141
@furiousgamerxz5141 Жыл бұрын
Wanda stealing Rambeau's powers makes so much sense that I'm wondering how I didn't notice it the 1st 3 times I watched the movie.
@wingedfish1175
@wingedfish1175 Жыл бұрын
because its super fucking vague like when the hell did wanda get infinity stonepower theft?
@billiam301
@billiam301 Жыл бұрын
It's established in wandavision; Agatha absorbs some of Wanda's mind stone enhanced chaos magic, and Wanda then shows she can do the same by absorbing Agatha's magic
@Lookscankillx
@Lookscankillx Жыл бұрын
@@wingedfish1175 embarrassing for u
@LineOfThy
@LineOfThy Жыл бұрын
@@wingedfish1175 wandavision.
@mormonfreegan4986
@mormonfreegan4986 Жыл бұрын
11:40 I have a head cannon that when 838 Strange met Reed for the first time, he told the same joke. I think it makes the look on Reed's face deeper; instead of just laughing at some joke, he's recognizing an old friend of his and recognizing that Stephen's charm is a multiversal constant, but unfortunately, so is the havoc that he wreaks.
@matthewjones6786
@matthewjones6786 Жыл бұрын
It's weird when the biggest problem I have with this movie is that Strange and America somehow didn't need to pay to use the memory device. Also they made Wanda downright terrifying even wearing mom jeans.
@NateSeverance
@NateSeverance Жыл бұрын
Money is not actually necessary; humans did not always have money. Other fictional universes (like Star Trek) try to imagine what it might look like to move beyond money and winner-takes-all systems (like capitalism).
@totokekedile
@totokekedile Жыл бұрын
I assumed what was out on the street was a "free sample" type of thing.
@matthewjones6786
@matthewjones6786 Жыл бұрын
@@totokekedile If that's the case, it's comparable to a mall restaurant handing out a full roast chicken on a toothpick! :P America got to see her greatest trauma, I feel like "that time she stubbed her toe" would make more sense as a freebie.
@arnoldo8642
@arnoldo8642 Жыл бұрын
I kept thinking the memory would abruptly end and an ad would pop up saying they have to pay to see the rest of the memory
@yuck2808
@yuck2808 Жыл бұрын
Now that you mentioned multiverse movies I hope we get to see Everything Everywhere All At Once covered sometime on this channel :) Love the video
@JRP02
@JRP02 Жыл бұрын
Most wins of any movie on his channel incoming
@assailant8722
@assailant8722 Жыл бұрын
That video would be longer than the movie itself
@directorforplastic7929
@directorforplastic7929 Жыл бұрын
@@mackielunkey2205 bruh. You know he does more than just marvel movies… right? I mean his next video is gonna be The Batman and his prior 2 videos were Fellowship of the Ring and Matrix Resurrections. There’s no reason he wouldn’t eventually talk about probably the most beloved movie of the year dude
@caryndreams
@caryndreams Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see Everything Everywhere All at Once on the channel!
@petersamso3167
@petersamso3167 Жыл бұрын
He's literally gonna give them a 1000 win count...or more..
@grapeshot
@grapeshot Жыл бұрын
In some ways Wanda is even a more deadly of threat than Thanos was.
@Asghaad
@Asghaad Жыл бұрын
some ways ? She wasnt kidding when she sayd she was being reasonable ... she is walking talking Infinity gauntlet ... with a temper ... and going "tad bit" mad with grief ... if she let loose she would be ten times the threat Thanos was ... you know rewriting reality at will, no need for any gimmick glove or corny gestures...
@tommarsdon5644
@tommarsdon5644 Жыл бұрын
She has actually shown of all the individual infinity stone's powers
@Iliadic
@Iliadic Жыл бұрын
Oh easily. If she wasn't Disney-fied at the end of MoM, she could've been the next Phase Villain; also with Hulk in She-Hulk going to...somewhere, probably Sakaar, I REALLY want to see Maestro Hulk. Mark Ruffalo even said that he's willing to keep being Hulk as long as Marvel lets him.
@johnman8398
@johnman8398 Жыл бұрын
@@Iliadic If by disney-fied you mean realising the error of her ways after being hit by reality sure otherwise poor wording.
@Iliadic
@Iliadic Жыл бұрын
@@johnman8398 I mean, I wrote the comment before the end of the video, and I realize how it's not quite what I was thinking; it's just that to anyone without children (such as myself and many others who watched MoM), it didn't have too much of a punch.
@TheCikoni
@TheCikoni Жыл бұрын
I know im months late to this video but im so happy to see people that actually enjoyed this movie and im happy you did as well. Not going to pretend it was perfect by any means but all the nitpicking, complaining, and just simply people not understanding is so tiring to see. Dr. Strange has been my favorite Marvel hero even before his first movie and I absolutly love this movie even with its flaws. Very happy to be sucribed to a channel filled with so much positivity :)
@bullrun2772
@bullrun2772 Жыл бұрын
So fucking true
@Cyberleader672
@Cyberleader672 10 ай бұрын
1:09 Comeuppance? He's trying to save the multiverse!
@iantaggart3064
@iantaggart3064 2 ай бұрын
Through first degree murder? I don't think so.
@Cyberleader672
@Cyberleader672 16 күн бұрын
@@iantaggart3064 First degree murder or destruction of everything that's ever existed (Including her as well. She dies either way). Easy choice. Why does do people keep acting like he's a bad guy for doing this. Wins even compares him to Wanda
@lvnar5734
@lvnar5734 Жыл бұрын
Despite the mixed reviews this movie got its hands down my favorite in the MCU and it’s not even close. Thank you so much for pointing out the positives unlike everybody else it feels like
@GreaserMan
@GreaserMan Жыл бұрын
People are so terrified of an MCU movie that's actually a real movie and different. This is the best MCU movie in a loooong time.
@bibrosko
@bibrosko Жыл бұрын
same!! I think its awsome...and I havent liked a mcu movie in a while so like, it must be doing something right.
@bibrosko
@bibrosko Жыл бұрын
or i have terrible taste.
@rogueguardian
@rogueguardian Жыл бұрын
There's always positives in movies even if they're relatively mixed with audiences. I for one love this film. The cinematography and visuals are top notch especially. And of course Sam raimi directing. Let's not forget the horror elements that made it more memorable.
@TheOriginalLurker
@TheOriginalLurker Жыл бұрын
You can imagine my shock when I finally found a video that wasn’t about all the things wrong with marvel movies/shows and the literal 5 hour long essay video people wrote to say how bad this was . I honestly can’t understand why people would make 5 HOUR LONG VIDEO just to say they don’t like the movie?
@walteracevedo5105
@walteracevedo5105 Жыл бұрын
A few details that I loved about this movie: Sam Raimi returning after promising to not direct another comic movie, Xochitl insisting to do her own stunts, and Xavier getting killed by a power-hungry red head (again).
@WyattoonsComics
@WyattoonsComics Жыл бұрын
Strange Prime’s arc also gets a boost from No Way Home. Defender Strange says the same multiverse/sacrifice speech Prime did in NWH. But as we saw, Strange learns from Spidey that sometimes there is another way. And that combined with Christine’s words, he learns to finally back up. There is another way to save the day. Trust the other heroes to do what they can do.
@avs21331977
@avs21331977 Жыл бұрын
I like his explanation at the end of the darkhold being what causes Wanda to lose herself. If you watched agents of shield the corruption that takes place and her quick turn at the end makes sense because it's similar to what Fitz and pretty much anyone else who read the darkhold went through in the show.
@malsnakamoto
@malsnakamoto Жыл бұрын
The genuinely terrifying and horror parts of this movie was fantastic, as expected of our fantastic director.
@alexnelson9830
@alexnelson9830 Жыл бұрын
I have never gotten more chills than when Sir Patrick Stewart came out in the comic accurate yellow chair with the original theme
@tylarkhawley
@tylarkhawley Жыл бұрын
one thing that I loved that I feel like he missed was that this movie was about consequences, starting off with the guy in the wedding talking about how the blip affected him and Strange trying really hard not to think about how it was pretty much his fault. Nearly everything in this movie is the result of something that has been coming down the line for a while as a result of decisions (right or wrong) that our heroes made, even down to the post credits scene. I just thought that was really cool because, with the exception of Wanda's little oops in Civil War leading to that entire movie, most of it gets skated over. There are spots where we get a token nod to results of choices made in the heat of the moment but it's mostly just a scene and then we're back to quipping. In this movie one of our heroes went full villain and then died(?) and even our title character has been changed forever in a way we don't really understand yet. I hope they play with Strange's changes more than they did with removing Thor's eye in Ragnarok
@TheDailySchwab
@TheDailySchwab Жыл бұрын
I love this movie because it serves as a solid Doctor Strange sequel by continuing arcs established in the first film while also exploring new elements of the mcu without confusing major audiences. They showed just enough for a proper multiverse introduction. Loved the Illuminati and love that they had the balls to make Wanda op enough to take them all down almost immediately. Strange gets proper development through the movie being the one variant we’ve seen so far that is fully over Christine now and is fully focused on who he wants to be. I also feel like he’s controlled the third eye because he is the one Strange that is truly different as America had said. I liked Wakanda Forever more for mcu movies this year but this really was a great addition imo with all the subtle ties, musical nods, fun cameos, and the fact that it seems like everyone had fun with this even through COVID. Marvel isn’t always perfect, but I’m glad we get what we do.
@kachoo1771
@kachoo1771 Жыл бұрын
This movie is easily my favorite MCU film. The style, tension, and just EVERYTHING is so amazing and I love it!
@jordansweet8054
@jordansweet8054 Жыл бұрын
This is getting up there for me each time I watch it. At least my favorite since Endgame
@TheOriginalLurker
@TheOriginalLurker Жыл бұрын
For me after Infinity war and Endgame , this is my third most favorite movie . No way home is a fourth for me
@jordansweet8054
@jordansweet8054 Жыл бұрын
@@TheOriginalLurker Good list! Guardians 1,Avengers,Endgame and Ragnarok are my top 4.
@TheOriginalLurker
@TheOriginalLurker Жыл бұрын
@@jordansweet8054 Thanks !! Yours is great too
@graydonproulx8452
@graydonproulx8452 Жыл бұрын
It’s always nice to feel good about movies you enjoyed that’s what this channel is for
@AfterTheApocalypse26
@AfterTheApocalypse26 Жыл бұрын
Same, I loved doctor strange and people talked so much shit about it
@dethbreth8
@dethbreth8 Жыл бұрын
@landomando “Hold my beer cliché” *ding*
@phigranewmo9934
@phigranewmo9934 Жыл бұрын
Even without WandaVision this movie still makes sense. Wanda’s dark side was present in Age of Ultron and she struggled a lot as an Avenger. Vision’s death hit her hard. Makes sense that at the end of it all she’d just swipe the Dark Hold Book and descend into madness.
@TheTradge
@TheTradge Жыл бұрын
The whole scene where they jump through about 10 different parallel universes at once felt like it was taken right out of the pages of a comic book, and I absolutely loved it!
@liamm8197
@liamm8197 Жыл бұрын
the definition of a guilty pleasure movie. i know there are some pretty big issues but i can’t help but love it. the stylisation and score are everything.
@KingKamor2
@KingKamor2 10 ай бұрын
No need to feel guilty! It's a-okay to like bad media as long as you know it has issues. Not to mention that this movie definitely has some surface-level redeeming qualities, like those you mentioned. Just don't financially support the writer of MoM; he's kind of a moron and had no business being given control over such incredible vfx and music production.
@anothervagabond
@anothervagabond Жыл бұрын
"I also think they struggled to balance that line between full evil murderer and anti-hero mom just trying to get her kids back." A *lot* of people seem to forget about the fact that Wanda has the Darkhold, which canonically corrupts anyone who reads it. She's not just "a mom trying to get her kids back", that's just the excuse she's using to herself to explain why she's suddenly willing to maim and kill to get her way. In reality though, she's literally been turned evil (or is at least in the process of being turned evil) by one of the most powerful evil artifacts in the entire universe.
@Shirospyre
@Shirospyre Жыл бұрын
It's not a matter of forgetting. Consider that many people who watch these movies aren't comic book fanatics. We're told that the Darkhold corrupts but we haven't really seen enough of it in the cinematic universe for us to just accept two lines of dialogue saying that it does with there being no way to counteract it (especially since they go and have Strange use it himself in the same movie with little visible consequence). Plus, a number of people were invested in Wanda's storyline from WandaVision. Saying "oh she picked up this evil book and all that character development went down the drain" feels like a very abrupt turn around.
@AZRockslide42
@AZRockslide42 Жыл бұрын
This. This is why I get so tired of the "They did Wanda dirty" comments from people. This was actually very believable. Take a grieving mom who just sort of got over the death of her soulmate, suddenly give her the idea that her kids might actually exist, and let that hope be what corrupts her into literally being willing to kill anyone, even the person that universe's version of her children would call mom, to have them. That is why America giving her what she wants and forcing her to truly see the monster she had become in their eyes helped snap her out of it. It showed her the lies the Darkhold had been telling her. It showed her that these kids were never going to be hers.
@shadowscythes
@shadowscythes Жыл бұрын
@@AZRockslide42 While I still found that ending somewhat dissatisfactory, I will say that I agree with all the comments being made about "ruining her character", they really didn't because it wasn't fully her most of the time.
@DEDManGaming
@DEDManGaming Жыл бұрын
Plus as Lee said she went through a LOT of emotiona trauma which would make the corruption even easier
@ninjabreadman1993r
@ninjabreadman1993r Жыл бұрын
​@@Shirospyre I agree to a point, though if you watched the Agents of SHIELD TV Series, the Darkhold was the main plotline of Season....3, I think? Which is why I was a lot more willing to accept it, since I recognised the Darkhold and remembered the shit it pulled in AoS. xD
@RedHeadKevin
@RedHeadKevin Жыл бұрын
I love how Rintrah (the minotaur guy) was just there, and NOBODY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT. Nobody even looked twice at him. Nobody made a comment, or even talked to him. He was just there.
@CaptainPikeachu
@CaptainPikeachu Жыл бұрын
Anson Mount getting that much deserved return to the MCU is honestly my fave surprise thing about this movie. I didn’t think they’d want to reference the one show they want folks to forget but I’m so glad Feige brought Anson back! Must be the Star Trek fan in Feige that made the decision! Also love that both Anson and Patrick Stewart got a MCU return the same week they both had their Star Trek shows airing at the same time! 😂 Also I really need them to have Earth 838 Franklin Richards show up and cause trouble, the movie even references that this Reed has kids. Franklin’s reality warping powers would make so many interesting stories if he’s pitted against the current main MCU timeline.
@johnsantos507
@johnsantos507 Жыл бұрын
I hope we see Anson Mount again in the future.😭 Wether Kevin Feige wants him or not because he's an Inhuman hater.😠
@patrickspencer6550
@patrickspencer6550 Жыл бұрын
Here are a few fun facts: Wanda and Pietro were orphaned on March 30, 1999, the day before the original Matrix came out. Both twins joined Ultron in Avengers 2, who was an A.I. program. Wanda also created a Matrix with the whole fake sitcom reality. Wanda also wore a blue shirt under a red jacket in the last episodes of WandaVision. Wanda also became the "Woman in the Red Dress" in MOM and she sealed Black Bolt's mouth the same way Smith did to Neo. Oz the Great and Powerful (2013) was the last film Sam Raimi before MOM. It also has a similar story to the Wizard of Oz. Dr. Strange is the wizard who actually is a wizard, America Chavez is Dorothy, Wanda is Theodora (the Wicked Witch of the West - both innocent girls who were tricked into turning evil), and Agatha is Evanora (the Wicked Witch of the East - who both tricked and lied to Wanda and Theodora in the first place).
@robbys5236
@robbys5236 Жыл бұрын
1:05 Forgot to mention the parallels between this line and the line in No Way Home. No Way Home: In the grand calculus of the multiverse, their sacrifice is worth more than their lives. Multiverse of Madness: But in the grand calculus of the multiverse, your sacrifice is worth more than your life. Just a nice little detail I noticed.
@lukejohnston3117
@lukejohnston3117 Жыл бұрын
Something that I enjoy about the MCU is that future projects can retroactively make more lackluster projects better in the future. Age of Ultron got this treatment due to the payoffs in Phase Three. With Shang-Chi bringing in the real Mandarin, Iron Man 3 could be more appreciated because of it. And the Incredible Hulk could be looked at more fondly with the return of several characters from that film years later. Films like this one, Eternals, and Love and Thunder could all get this same treatment in the future if things pay off perfectly. In Multiverse of Madness's case, it could be credited for setting up the main conflict of the Multiverse Saga (or at least one of them): the Incursions. If America has a bright future ahead of her, this film could be looked at more fondly for introducing her. And so on.
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement Жыл бұрын
3:33 I will never get tired of the Portal references on this channel. 4:10 Looked up Patton Parnel and that story is... disturbing. To say the least. 13:18 I've spent like 5 minutes analyzing this it's so cool how each angle is right. 13:54 Is... did you just make a The Office reference? xD 17:13 I think it's also a good clue to that every Wanda is extremely protective of her children. She was just posssessed, saw a dimensional rift, and almost killed two people while damning another, but her first thought it of the safety of her kids who weren't even invovled. 18:28 The harp note isn't a "nuke", it just triggers the unstable note bomb in front of Evil Strange's face.
@Falxifer95
@Falxifer95 Жыл бұрын
I loved this movie, and was really glad to see Sam Raimi's actual style back in the big screen. Also, the mixed reaction to this movie made me realize that the only other Sam Raimi directed movie so called "Raimi fans" of my generation or younger have seen is Oz the Great and Powerful.
@luckymo_on
@luckymo_on Жыл бұрын
Didn't he direct the spiderman movies (Tobey McGuire version) ???
@ninjabluefyre3815
@ninjabluefyre3815 Жыл бұрын
And when I watched Army of Darkness for the first time, I really saw the influence.
@citizenkhunt
@citizenkhunt Жыл бұрын
Drag Me to Hell
@Falxifer95
@Falxifer95 Жыл бұрын
@@luckymo_on yes, that's my point. A lot of people call themselves "hardcore" Raimi fans, enshrine his Spider-Man trilogy but didn't recognize any of the overt and frankly unsubtle callbacks and references to Evil Dead and Darkman in Multiverse of Madness, or scoffed at how campy and cheesy it was, despite that also being his style and all over the Spider-Man trilogy.
@Falxifer95
@Falxifer95 Жыл бұрын
@@ninjabluefyre3815 its also very apparent in Drag Me To Hell which is also excellent.
@mallory2058
@mallory2058 Жыл бұрын
im awful with horror so my skin was crawling the entire time i was watching this in theaters. but the music note fight had me literally jumping out of my seat!! i saw it super late so i was basically pacing around in the aisle freaking out about how awesome it was! the score! the style!!! my favorite mcu moment ever
@redmario7
@redmario7 Жыл бұрын
20:16 Definitely "America, F*ck Yeah!" is totally a win.
@Tylendal242
@Tylendal242 Жыл бұрын
One thing I was hoping to see mentioned was the effectiveness of fighting fire with fire during the music battle. Trying to keep the barrage of notes away with a conventional shield was a slowly failing effort. However, a conjured musical staff caught them almost effortlessly. It was the magical equivalent of just grabbing and throwing the first thing that came to hand (the sheet music), but it also forced the other Strange to respond in kind.
@lucinda_null
@lucinda_null Жыл бұрын
Even though I didn’t love this movie, I can still appreciate the amount of work that went into it.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Same. You can tell a lot work went into the acting, direction, cinematography and production design. Sadly, the script and storytelling was kinda meh and made no sense half the time
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯👍👍👍👍
@joekreissl4499
@joekreissl4499 Жыл бұрын
@@chasehedges6775 the same problems that happened with spider-man 3. sony and disney should know to just let directors do there thing
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
@@joekreissl4499 Spider Man 3 is a masterpiece compared to this film
@patrickspencer6550
@patrickspencer6550 Жыл бұрын
Here are a few fun facts: Wanda and Pietro were orphaned on March 30, 1999, the day before the original Matrix came out. Both twins joined Ultron in Avengers 2, who was an A.I. program. Wanda also created a Matrix with the whole fake sitcom reality. Wanda also wore a blue shirt under a red jacket in the last episodes of WandaVision. Wanda also became the "Woman in the Red Dress" in MOM and she sealed Black Bolt's mouth the same way Smith did to Neo.
@Schwartzbruder1
@Schwartzbruder1 Жыл бұрын
My headtheory is that Cthon(The author of the Darkhold) wisked Wanda away because he didn't want his pet project to die. A possible storyline for the two brothers to finally establish themselves as Young Avengers and go look for her...and a another possible setup for The Midnight Sons
@bloodybee3553
@bloodybee3553 Жыл бұрын
Whisper-dude's death made this movie go from a 60 to a 90 for me. I had no idea they were willing to go there, and I had to show my mom that scene to make sure she didn't let my kid brother watch. So horrific, so powerful, so awesome. Also, the actress who plays Wanda is a childless woman who made me believe that she is not pure evil as she murders dozens, but that she is struggling with the trauma of a horror that most human minds can't even realistically imagine unless they've experienced it firsthand. Goddamn she's going in my top 5. Every time her voice shook as she spoke about her sons, I began to cry. I'm a teenage girl with no children, and I empathized with her more than I ever thought I could with a fictional character.
@luckymo_on
@luckymo_on Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this because when I went to see it I genuinely felt like I was the only one who enjoyed the movie everyone else was complaining so much!!
@luckymo_on
@luckymo_on Жыл бұрын
@@djm0201 I didn't think it is as bad as everyone was making it out tbh I have seen worse from the mcu itself
@jaredlewis3001
@jaredlewis3001 Жыл бұрын
The MCU is not in a bad place. I just want to have fun watching them
@luckymo_on
@luckymo_on Жыл бұрын
@@jaredlewis3001 yeah it's like people r always complaining that all the mcu movies follow the same formula but when they make smth different fans hate it like what?
@Ziggerath
@Ziggerath Жыл бұрын
@@luckymo_on watch maulers video about this movie. You’re literally dead wrong on why people don’t like it.
@daveagard1884
@daveagard1884 Жыл бұрын
@@Ziggerath there’s literally a marvel hate trend going on and everyone knows that, it’s so annoying
@freyjanj
@freyjanj Жыл бұрын
I need an Everything Great About Everything Everywhere All At Once. That was the best multiverse movie of the year for me and one of the best movies of the year so far.
@JoshSweetvale
@JoshSweetvale Жыл бұрын
Scarlet Witch's 'madness' has been an aspect of her character... that's been pushed upon her by *the authors.* The means by which she overcame herself was insufficiently awesome compared to the *glorious* way Vision found a mutually beneficial solution, healing White Vision's mind and giving Ghost Vision a legacy. Good Guy Necromancy is a _rare_ thing, so it's always a win.
@Songman-xj5ix
@Songman-xj5ix Жыл бұрын
Something I think is worth mentioning is how Prime Doctor Strange is the only one out of 3 Strange variants to let himself ‘not hold the knife’ as it were. We know ponytail Strange tried to use America’s power in the beginning, but also 838-Strange tried to dream walk to beat Thanos in his reality. He also tried to be ‘the one holding the knife’ to end that conflict. Prime Strange is the only one to let go of control and actually show a bit of trust in others
@DigiRangerScott
@DigiRangerScott Жыл бұрын
I like the idea that the Mordo story progressed offscreen. Regardless of when the first film takes place, by Multiverse of Madness it’s somewhere around a DECADE later. Was Mordo’s plan supposed to freeze until there was a place onscreen to show it?
@jasonwalker9471
@jasonwalker9471 Жыл бұрын
He might have been dusted, making it only 3 pr 4 years of time from his point of view.
@DigiRangerScott
@DigiRangerScott Жыл бұрын
@@jasonwalker9471 It doesn’t matter whether Mordo was dusted or not. Because Strange was. But that’s still several years of scuffles like he’s a more threatening Team Rocket
@jordansweet8054
@jordansweet8054 Жыл бұрын
Because fanboys have to whine about something.
@chucknorrisismypal
@chucknorrisismypal Жыл бұрын
I have to admit when a review for Multiverse of Madness revealed Scarlet Witch was the villain instead of just a co-lead, I was a bit ticked and even partially eyerolled, but after watching the movie, the execution of it was simply well done for me. What stuck for me the most was the consequences of a fallen hero's actions not being washed away just because "oh, they did the right thing." We've had it in every flavor from "He was the right hand man to an evil empire who got his hands especially filthy, but he stopped his master, so he'll be remembered as a hero" to "He allowed himself to be aligned with an evil wizard for power and his deepest desire, resulting in untold loss and destruction, but he helped in the battle to bring everyone back, so he can stick around without anyone even so much as addressing his deeds". She destroyed the Darkhold in all universes, but the damage to her world and others is still there, and will remain so. Wanda even comes to terms with the fact the Darkhold wasn't 100% behind her actions, also avoiding "You did bad, but it wasn't you really because possession and/or mind control, so you're off the hook." She opened it and closed it, knowing there was no coming back from where she fell, and made the sacrifice not to redeem herself or for the chance to be brought back with good graces, but because it was to stop any further harm others could do to themselves and other worlds. In some ways, I see it akin to Hal Jordan's turn to Parallax, trying to rebuild what he has lost and going to any length to achieve it, but the Wanda of the MCU, or at least 616, won't come back or be exonerated, and her arc is all the better for it. On a lighter note, here's a missed win for 90s/2000s PlayStation 1 players: "The 2022 Neversoft logo looks great."
@jakubrejak1114
@jakubrejak1114 Жыл бұрын
You really think she's not coming back? She 100% is.
@Andrew-bn4ie
@Andrew-bn4ie Жыл бұрын
Marvel wouldn’t waste wanda like that they know how much ppl love her
@Andrew-bn4ie
@Andrew-bn4ie Жыл бұрын
No body no death
@apoorvsingh4459
@apoorvsingh4459 Жыл бұрын
Yeah all of it wasn't just the Darkhold's actions, it all came from herself. We all saw what she could do for her family in WV, but the darkhold dialed it up to 11 justifying the killings to her, which she wouldn't have ever done willingly without the Darkhold's influence.
@High-LordHarza
@High-LordHarza Жыл бұрын
"saying stuff really loud" "stretching their fingies" MAN you are underselling their powers. Black Bolt levels a city with a whisper and destroys planets with a shout, because his voice isn't just voice, and Reed's powers allow him to alter his body in insane ways.
@ezekielmuleta398
@ezekielmuleta398 Жыл бұрын
The drums and the dramatic entrance in kamartaj really makes it cool and iconic
@firefliesowlcity12
@firefliesowlcity12 Жыл бұрын
I always appreciate the work this channel does, both because it serves to defend against the haters as well as let's me better appreciate movies that I couldn't fully get behind. In this movie's case I had a real suspension of disbelief problem with the initial premise due to Wanda-Vision, if Wanda is a Nexus (multiverse constant), then the themes and patterns in her lives should be similar across universes, it doesn't mean that they are the same in every universe just a "like poetry it rhymes" type thing. Wanda says that this is the only universe she doesn't have kids which is confusing, because that would imply that she has some multiverse soulmate that she keeps meeting to have kids with to form this particular set of twins who themselves would always be part of their lives. Yet we never find out who the kids father is and we never find out what difference there is in the 616 universe that makes it the singular exception among an infinite number of variations. It's only when I can let go of the fact that this movie doesn't have a coherent inciting incident (the Darkhold driving her crazy to get her kids doesn't matter if she should have her kids by Wanda-Vision's logic) that I can appreciate what it does well, and videos like this one help me appreciate just what parts of the movie are done well. The characters work in general, Strange's arc, the cameos, sound design, creative visuals, etc. There's a lot to love, but it's certainly taken a lot of time for me to look past the nitpicks I have with the movie to accept the good with the bad and acknowledge that no movie will be perfect.
@thingusbingus8181
@thingusbingus8181 Жыл бұрын
The big thing that makes me love this movie in terms of style is that the panels and dialogue feel like they're pulled straight out of a comic. The shot composition, the framing, the transitions. They all feel so stylized to look like actual comic panels
@marieb9105
@marieb9105 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, the line "you break the rules and become a hero. I do it and become the enemy" works better in a meta-narrative way than in a literal one. Like, yes, in-universe, it's a bit of a false equivalence (which still works because she is the villain, so her perception is a bit fucked up). But those movies aren't documentaries about real-life people, they are works of fiction. Everything the characters do is a choice someone made in a writing room. And in that sense, I think the line is spot on because they both break the rules but the narrative will always bend over backwards to find an excuse when *he* does it. *His* rule-breaking has to be okay so the narrative that exists around it has one role and it's to find the scenario in which his rule-breaking is ok. Sure, time manipulation is bad BUT that was the only way to save the world, what else was he supposed to do? Sure, he failed his duty as the protector of the time stone by giving it to Thanos BUT it was the only way to save the universe. Sure, using the darkhold is bad BUT it's the only way to save America. And sure, dream walking with a corpse is illegal BUT desperate time call for desperate measures. Wanda is never given that kind of easy way out, her rule-breaking is always written to be about her own selfish benefits. She breaks the rules because of trauma, she breaks the rules because she wants her kids back... The narrative doesn't bend over backwards to justify her actions. Several times in the movie, Strange and Wanda do things that are similar but she is bad for doing them and he is good because the narrative decided that Strange always has a good reason. When Wanda uses her magic against other people (like she did in WandaVision), it's a bad thing (even though she was not in control at first and when she realized she was hurting people, she lifts the hex); when Strange does (like with the Ash the Pizza Vendor), it's played for laughs because the guy was an asshole anyway. When she uses the Darkhold, it's a very bad thing that destroys her completely; when he does it, it's acceptable considering the circumstance and the only consequences are a 3rd eye, which is basically nothing. When she dreams walks, it's framed as this horrific thing she does to someone else and it's BAD; when he does it, it's because it's the only way and it's horrifying for HIM because of the souls of the damned. They do the same things but the story goes out of its way to make sure it's ok when he does it because the Story™ makes sure it's justified while the story never gives Wanda the same kindness. It's a pretty smart line about the double standard between male and female characters in my opinion. Both because the public doesn't accept flaws in female characters that they celebrate in male ones (see: Carol Danvers and Tony Starks for example) and because writers are far less kind to their female characters than they are to their male ones. Male ones get to break the rule and become the hero. Female ones do and they become the enemy.
@apoorvsingh4459
@apoorvsingh4459 Жыл бұрын
I also think that line is intentionally written in that way to show that she has been captured by Darkhold and is thinking in a flawed way. As even Strange himself said "that's Exactly how our enemies think". Everyone including the characters in the movie know what she said was wrong, therefore this line shows how exactly her mind has been manipulated.
@NationalHooeyLeague
@NationalHooeyLeague Жыл бұрын
I LOVE your comment. Very interesting indeed.
@soccerruben1
@soccerruben1 Жыл бұрын
And as we seen in the aftermath of MoM and WV, people were probably too harsh on Wanda.
@mellemadswoestenburg1296
@mellemadswoestenburg1296 Жыл бұрын
​​​@@soccerruben1 Well i'm not sure. We as the audience know that Wanda is technically a morally good person, but that doesn't mean she can't cause any terrible things. That's a very consistent character trait of Wanda. She doesn't want to hurt people but what she does to prevent that ends up hurting people anyway. In Civil War she tried to save people by throwing away a bomb but accidentally kills other people with it, and she's horrified because of it. She kills Vision to save the universe but it ends up being for nothing. In WandaVision she thinks the people around her are feeling good, happy and at peace. But she's actually puppeting and torturing them. When she finds out about this she has a complete meltdown and immediately tries to undo it. She reads the Darkhold because she wants to learn more about her powers so that she can prevent any more future catastrophes but instead it corrupts her mind, making her cause even more and worse catastrophes. People were not too harsh on Wanda considering everything she caused. We as the audience know what's going on under the surface but they dont.
@user-dr2yz8um3d
@user-dr2yz8um3d 11 ай бұрын
Low and behold, it’s already 1 year old!!! After over 27 films the Marvel Cinematic Universe reaches new and daring heights The rest of the MCU is now laid out to go on even more crazy, mind-bending adventures I gotta say that this is quite a different entry than the first movie It's amazing how much of Sam Raimi's signature style is here; everything from the tilted camera angles, the body horror, the extreme zoom-ins, and the kooky score by Danny Elfman Traveling across the multiverse is quite the extravaganza too with the various dimensions from a technology-based environment to a world of dinosaurs to a cartoon world to even a place where everyone is made of paint Heck they even designate Strange’s world as Earth-616 Plus we come full circle with Wanda Maximoff's personal journey her feeling desperate yet intimidating to get what she wants; can she be happier elsewhere despite having all this power at her disposal? Or will the prophechized Scarlett Witch take hold? So many crazy references to the comics storylines with the Illumanti and the inclusion of other elements from various Strange stories I expected something a bit grander in scale but everything is blissfully entertaining Gomez as Chavez is pretty cool, Cumberbatch continues to impress as this title character exploring his personality being controlling and condescending, and the effects are meant to be seen on the big screen with all their dazzling wizardry as it were The younger viewers might be scared at certain points but it shows the MCU pushing more of the boundaries and they keep it appropriately dark without relying too heavily on corny humor Stinks too that Rachael McAdams feels a bit underutilized and we can't spend more time in these other dimensions But 28 movies in and Marvel Studios still gets the job done expanding more of the acid-trip inducing, mind-bending elements what made these comics pop off the page Mothers create magic all the time, are we truly happier living our lives we only know for certain?, hypocrisy can only get us so far, we should know that our families will always be loved no matter what reality they exist, Dreams are windows into the lives of our multiversal selves ‘Multiverse of Madness’ is an insane trip through the senses as well as a cerebral experience from beginning to end Not one of the strongest MCU entries but truly the most insane one that works as a very personal and human story Raimi has navigated around the Disneyfication of the brand so this isn’t your average comic book film…it’s very comic book-like Messy and chaotic for sure but crazy in entertaining fashion
@RubbishGamePlay
@RubbishGamePlay Жыл бұрын
You can feel the rami style from several parts. It both really surprised me because I didn't expect it and didn't surprise me because it's so alike to that style
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
I got more of a Spider Man vibe especially since Raimi directed those
@TheMichaelm1997
@TheMichaelm1997 Жыл бұрын
Great job on the vid as always. Really loved Raimi’s direction. Fun fact: The writer of the film appears on the balcony besides Christine’s husband near the beginning of the film. He also worked on Rick & Morty.
@rozasupreme
@rozasupreme Жыл бұрын
That shot of Wong "walking" out of the dead orchard is the most Rami shot to ever be captured on film.
@pyrosianheir
@pyrosianheir Жыл бұрын
I stg, the chill that went down my spine when I heard that light 90's X-men riff as THE wheelchair hovered in... it was amazing in theaters and still grabbed me here, and I don't even have core memories about that one the way I do the 90s spidey cartoon.
@RodrickMarsMoon
@RodrickMarsMoon Жыл бұрын
"Comsume all content" is basically the main advice I give to anyone who wants to starts to watch a big series. This and "give me an hour, I'll make you a list!"
@Hellkite-er5pg
@Hellkite-er5pg Жыл бұрын
Too bad you didn't give a win for the genuine thanks and appreciation that America gave to Strange before Strange returned to New York. That scene was wonderful because after years of bouncing from reality to reality, America finally found a new family.
@perilikid
@perilikid Жыл бұрын
Great video and a fun way of revisiting the film without having to, you know, watch it again. The film is draining! So I'm not really in a hurry to watch it again... One thing that seems to have been glossed over a bit - at least as I've interpreted it - is how this version of Dr Strange seems to have accrued all the creepy monster powers that the 'bad' Strange did to try and keep Christine alive in his episode of What If? - from the use of monsters through magic to that one scene of him being heard first (lots of squelchy noises), then his shadow with lots of weird monstrous elements to it. It isn't commented on in the film, but it feels like an important aspect of his development: there's clearly something flawed and corrupt to him. I think what I appreciated the most after the fact was the scene of murder of fan service superheros. It definitely felt like a Michael Waldron, Rick and Morty-level pisstake, enhanced by Raimi: 'you want some MCU connections? Here you go! Oh, and wait, here's what we think of it'. It's a proper tongue in cheek scene that draws you in (I was giddy when I saw Hayley Atwell) then gives you back what you didn't realise you needed. Still: not watching it again for a while!
@thedman2122
@thedman2122 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. For doing this movie--Really REALLY underappreciated in my book--and I love how your philosophy is essentially "No movie without wins" you practically OOZE positivity, my man
@patrickspencer6550
@patrickspencer6550 Жыл бұрын
They also said this movie honors every definition of the word, “madness”: 1. The state of being mentally ill. 2. Extremely foolish behavior. 3. A state of chaotic activity.
@minecrafter0505
@minecrafter0505 Жыл бұрын
The Multiverse Fan Service that happened here so redeemed that Quicksilver fake-out in Wandavision. Seeing not just any Professor X, but our Professor X in the MCU made me so happy and it felt so earned, seeing as the X-Men franchise paved the way for what the MCU has become.
@darkecofreak23
@darkecofreak23 Жыл бұрын
Call forward to She-Hulk, too, when Wanda realizes that her kids see her as a monster. “When people start seeing you as a monster, that never goes away.”
@omegadeadpool2947
@omegadeadpool2947 Жыл бұрын
This movie also had the greatest Chekov's Gun ever resurrected from the Grave and that alone makes this a Great Film
@darksev.6468
@darksev.6468 Жыл бұрын
I liked this movie but I honestly hoped for more multiverse shenanigans. We only got to see one universethat honestly didn't feel that different and a destroyed one, otherwise just one-second cameos.
@fazewick8729
@fazewick8729 Жыл бұрын
Another great video, I had no clue the eye monster was a scan of Elizabeth Olsen's eye! That's super cool. Just curious, I know you don't generally do television shows but have you ever considered watching a show called Arcane? It's an incredible series I think you'd really like it. Just a suggestion, love the channel.
@ChinaMo
@ChinaMo Жыл бұрын
I watched your "The Matrix Resurrections" videos and loved them! Shared a lot of the same feelings and thoughts as you, as well. 😎 I basically have watched every single one of your EGA videos, unless it was on a movie I haven't seen yet. We of the youtube-verse love you! Please keep doing what you do! 😁
@drizzmatec
@drizzmatec Жыл бұрын
All I want from a Dr. Strange movie is a visually interesting wizard duel. I absolutely got what I wanted with the Strange v Strange fight.
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