Erasures, Insertions, & Coverings = massive censorship! - Quranic Corrections Ep. 8

These talks are intended to help Christians who are working with Muslims, and to help Muslims deal with some of the problems with their foundations.
Daniel Brubaker, PhD, is a scholar of Qurʾan manuscripts of the 7th-10th centuries AD, the earliest period of the book’s existence. He defended his doctoral dissertation titled “Intentional Changes in Qurʾan Manuscripts” and was awarded his PhD at Rice University in Houston in 2014. Since then he has continued his work researching corrections in early Qurʾans. To date, Brubaker has analyzed approximately 10,000 early Qurʾan manuscript folios, most in person, in institutions and libraries in Paris, St. Petersburg, Oxford, Cambridge, London, Dublin, Doha, Manama, Kuwait, Tashkent, and elsewhere.
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[@jamalkhan3708]

Ex Muslim from Pakistan and I really appreciate the hard work you both are doing. Much love and respect ✊❤️

[@conferenceroom910]

Please stay safe, God bless you!

[@TheIlhanTheElequent_ishaq]

I’m from uk but my family are originally from Pakistan and I must say you got guts leaving Islam with state Pakistan is in.

[@livingwaters.4U]

Thank you for such an amazing information, blessings from London.

[@j_an3365]

What's done in the dark will come to the light.

[@wifechadly]

J_An ) except if you see darkness as light , and light as darkness...

[@j_an3365]

@@wifechadly Bruh you always got sum to say.

[@j_an3365]

@@wifechadly But don't have nun to say about the corrections. And how Allah made a grammatical mistake. 🤷🤷

[@wifechadly]

@@j_an3365 ) Arabes did not need grammar or vowel marking , they already speak it and make poetry as their hobby , like playing Baseball in the us . Allah also made a mistake giving muslims 3 legs and gave you only 2 ...

[@j_an3365]

@@wifechadly The Quran is supposedly supposed to be a revelation to mankind and from God. So therefore it should be grammatically correct, so that the other nations can understand without human correction. Oh wait I forgot Islam is an Arab religion.

[@1234q0987]

Salute to your hard work. God bless you Sirs.

[@mikemeneray1437]

Jay Smith is always excellent, especially on this topic!

[@George-iv1hi]

So much for perfectly preserved quran. Spread this information to everywhere.

[@einc70]

Thank you both. 🙏 In His name.

[@josephfernandes6670]

Saudi Arabia is the home of Islam and that county does not have any manuscripts of the Quran? If no really😧

[@josephfernandes6670]

Lars Sørensen am just informing u that Mecca and madina r the birth place of Islam so why NO manuscripts, so keep ur live commentary for ur self. An example the both of the Bible was in Israel and the manuscripts were found in Israel and in Roman Empire of that time 👍

[@josephfernandes6670]

Lars Sørensen nope if Saudi Arabia does not have any old manuscripts then all the other ones r unreliable

[@HH-ss9vj]

Lars Sørensen Hej min Danske vän :) The prophet didn’t have anything to do with Mecca, Medina or the cave in Mecca. Every proof is pointing to Islam’s birthplace being somewhere in Levante. // Från din svenske vän

[@rawdog8141]

@Lars Sørensen , Correction, Adam lived somewhere in India according to the Islamic sources.

[@josephfernandes6670]

💤💤💤

[@samuelengle7873]

For #15, they have lights that can show what was written in those spaces. It has been done on palimpsests to recover the undertext.

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Your videos are awesome and so well produced. The truth is easy to learn and understand. Thank you for showing the world how Jesus Christ is the only door to heaven. Peace be upon Grinch!

[@John-qo6fs]

Thank you and I order right away. Non Muslims never bothered to do research and surgery on Quran and now it is a good time to do. Great Job.

[@divyachacko3449]

Loved it

[@charlestee5656]

Thank you brothers

[@conferenceroom910]

Dear Alfadi i appreciate what you and Dr. Jay are doing. My question is "who really did these corrections "?

[@CIRAInternational]

World Changer we cannot tell for sure... all we can assume is that it was done by other scribes... as far as why, that’s the million dollar question? Was it motivated by political reasons? Or just pure corrections on missed words. An editorial process of some sort to conform these particular manuscripts with a specific school of reading...

[@conferenceroom910]

@@CIRAInternational Thank you brother Alfadi! However after these corrections have been discovered (regardless of who & why) the Quran muslims have in their possessions today can no longer be classified as "divine". I pray that Muslims eyes be opened to see the truth. You know Alfadi, what bothers me most is that; no single muslim wants to make an effort to search out these things, especially the arabic speaking individuals. Why? Smh

[@wifechadly]

@@conferenceroom910 ) Muslims they enjoy listening to the Quran recitations by the Masters like Abdul Bassit , Mustafa Ismail , Al Husary ..etc and they know it is Devine , and they also have competitions of the best reciters in all kind of style ... Have you listened to any of those ? try Mustafa Ismail you will hear the odiance in ecstasy ... For the Quran not to be Devine then Al Fadi should produce a chapter like it , that is the Quran Acid test for anyone ...

[@willg6873]

World Changer the Bible what a joke a you stupid alfadi your a fake ex-Muslim I watch a video jay smith Trains Missionaries to Pretend they a Muslim

[@rubennathaniel2107]

@@rayx2350 While the quran was put into a test for its validity, reliability and the so much claim by the muslims that it was " perfectly preserved" why are you differ from the topic itself and attack the bible instead ? The one that we were hoping is the muslim answer for the massive correction,opposing differentiation in several types of quran that made the " perfectly preserved" quran argument doubtful or even fully debunked at last. Stay to the topic before and dont jump like a kangaroo as how typical muslims do, or are you one of them ????

[@satmat6566]

Thanks bros, Great stuff!! My conclusion is that the LAST and PERFECT prophet did not finish the job and died without being able to accomplish his mission. The so called Angel gabriel who spoke in the ears of Muhammad for 23 years failed as well. Did allah commission other people to standardise the eternal, uncreated, perfect koran ?? SCRIBES TO ADJUST THE KORAN TO MOST RECENT ONE !!! Whereas christians value the oldest bibilcal manuscripts and preserve the thousands ones to prove they are authentic despite minor variants that can be read and understood. Those variants were already in the margins in earlier manuscripts. The bible is by far reliable, trustworthy,faithful and inspired WORD of God !!!

[@wifechadly]

sat mat ) Catholics , with 73 books , and protestant with 66 books , are these different variants ?

[@johnw7657]

wifechadly Typical Muslim response. You have no answers for what is presented, so you cry, ‘what about the Bible’. The Bible makes no claims of eternality. Now, provide answers to the corrections in the Quran if it supposedly the unchanged word of your allah.

[@satmat6566]

@@wifechadly Have you ever heard about the Jewish canon and the early church canon . 39 books in the OT 27 in the NT. The Apocryphal books have been added much later. Go and check with any biblical scholar you will notice that Jesus and the Apostles never quoted any of those apocryphal books but intensively the canonized ones. Do the apocryphal books mention Muhammad ??

[@satmat6566]

@@rayx2350 You do not need an X Ray for the New Testament. The four gospels are a report of the life and ministry of Jesus edited by four different persons. CHRISTIANS do not claim that every word or passage of the bible to be a direct word from God. The bible is a book of true events and happenings but contain the failures, mistakes and weaknesses of man but we find the dealings of God toward His people and man in general. The plan of salvation and redemption and God's relationship with man is obvious in the bible, Have ever read the bible ????

[@satmat6566]

@@rayx2350 Mathew and John were eyewitnesses and luke a well as Mark knew the twelve Apostles for decades, even Mary ,the mother of jesus, the women who walked with HIM. OVER 500 people who saw the risen Christ were still alive !! Muhammad's companions who could recite the koran died in battle, Osman burnt a great number of koran manuscripts. On what basis did osman allow himself to do it ?? Allah struggled a lot and failed to keep OT, NT and koran from being corrupted !!!

[@timeto_rise]

Nice!

[@wwp4414]

Keep exposing the contradiction in the Quran that is preserved letter by letter dot by dot, great work keep up the good work.

[@wifechadly]

wwp ) they are exposing fake truth for the ignorants , if you give green sunglasses to cows they will eat yellow dry bale of hay ...

[@20july1944]

Can Brubaker DATE any of these changes? Some sound like they happened in the 20th century.

[@CIRAInternational]

20july1944 this requires the dating of the ink itself which is a different process that is not done to these manuscripts as of yet!

[@20july1944]

@@CIRAInternational OK. That's quite important to know.

[@CIRAInternational]

20july1944 you are welcome. ~ Al Fadi

[@HH-ss9vj]

CIRA International could you please give a time interval for each manuscripts and tell me when you think the changes was made?

[@christislord7003]

The Muslims are correct the Quran is unchanged! The errors were never changed!

[@dassretreat8547]

Thank you for expounding the thus far protected Koran. You made every one else to look into it. Great educational time

[@aberhan]

So different from Christianity where the oldest most complete scripture is preserved and used as the standard. Whereas Islam establishes the standard text 1400 years after the fact, then destroy or correct the oldest manuscripts. All while claiming the Koran is unchanged, perfect and complete.

[@thermionic1234567]

The problem with these documents is that Mohammedans will say these are only copies and these are just mistakes or corrections. This only matters if we can agree with the Mohammedans that these documents are actually the autographs from Uthman.

[@wifechadly]

Jeffrey Morrissey ) Uthman ( ra) on a Friday sermon said to the congregation , " did every one heard from the Prophet that the Quran came on 7 Ahruf ?, 1000 of them raised their hands ... the companions also asked him if he was afraid of changes of the Quran , Uthman said NO , The Arabs will fix any mistakes ( sa tuqeemuhu al 3arab ) ... Hadith of the 7 Ahruf ... Do your home work .

[@Chandransingham]

All this is very interesting. But my burning question is what were the changes made to Surah 4/157 - Killing or not of Jesus.

[@margahe9157]

What ever this Sura says about Jesus is insignificant! The Quran stands very lonely against a multitude of ancient vitnesses. The Quran is just too young, for being able to criticise the Gospels.

[@masroorahmadazmi758]

See, how Christians study dozens of muslim's books to prove their case, but their own only one book full of contradiction, confusion, and interpolation they can't find mistakes. God says, their hearts are locked so they can't understand.

[@nenitaramones4353]

Masroor ahmad azni OLDEST BIBLE MANUSCRIPTS REVEAL DAT GODS PERSONAL NAME YHWH (YAHWEH/) WHICH APPEAR MORE DAN 6000 TIMES THEREIN WERE CHANGED BY COPYISTS IN D LATER CENTURIES. NON CHRISTIAN JEWS OF MEDINA N ELSEWHERE AVOIDED MENTIONING GOD'S SACRED PERSONAL NAME OUT OF SUPERSTITION,. D PROPHET OF ARABIA THOUGH CLAIMING AS ONE SENTFORTH BY D SAME GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, JACOB, DAVID, SULAIMAN N JESUS NEVER KNEW, NEVER HEARED DIS FRM D MOUTH OF ANY JEWS IN MECCA NOR IN MEDINA. ISN'T DAT MORE DAN ERASURE, INTERPOLATION, CONTRADICTION N CONFUSION? SURE ENAF, "ONE" BOOK DOES DOES CONTAIN CONFUSIONS N CONTRADICTIONS NOT ALLOWED 2 HAVE IT CONFORM 2 D ANCIENT RELIABLE MANUSCRIPTS. DER R AVAILABLE BIBLES NOW. U CAN OBTAIN DEM 4 FREE WHILE IN OTHER U NID 2 BUY. D VERSIONS DAT DO NOT CONTAIN YHWH AS AN EXAPLE R SAID 2 B SPURIOS FOR TAMPERIMG OR HIDING GOD'S SACRED PERSONAL NAME.GOD N ALLAH BASICALLY MEAN D SAME THING. IN WHTEVER LANGUAGE, NUMBER OF TIMES WRITTEN OR SPOKEN. OR RECITED "MELODIOUSLY"OR A!AZINGLY, SINCERELY, RELIGIOUSLY, OR CEREMONIALLY , "NINITY NINELY OR AHUNDRED BILLIONLY TIMES BY SO-CALED CHRISTIANS , JUDAISTS N MUSLIMS PUT 2GETHER COULD N WOULD EVER REPLACE N QUAL 2 YHWH IN MEANIMG, N SIGNIFICANCE. GEN 2:4;EXO.3:14-16; EXO 20:7;DEEUT.6:4-6;PS.83:18; ISA. 42:8 12:44-66 ; JER.10:10;;ZEPH. 2:3,4; MATT.69' 22:37; JOH.17:6,26, RPM 10:13;EZEK..38:23; PS. 111:10;PS.14:1. GAD

[@tys6739]

lots of love. May Allah bless you for revealing the facts.

[@wifechadly]

If you go to a mosque for dawn prayer in Morocco, after they finish the prayer they sit in a circle and they recite one portion (Hizb) of the Quran most of them they recite from their heart without a book. And some use a book. And another (Hizb) portion is recited at sunset prayer time. By the end of the month they have finished the whole Quran. And then they start all over again. This is like a relay of reciting and memorizing it started in the month number 9 which is Ramadan. And this was done by the Prophet himself. without experiencing this , you are making all your answers from your mind production , if you put a green sunglasses on cows they can eat a yellow bale of hay ...

[@CIRAInternational]

wifechadly wow... that’s fascinating indeed... I suppose you don’t know that the reading of the Quran in Morocco is not according to Hafs, but rather, according to the reading of Warch! Also, you said the prophet did this format you just described? Please present your proof here! Finally, if memorization was such a powerful tool to preserve the Quran, why write it then? And why does it contain so many errors in the written form?

[@wifechadly]

@@CIRAInternational ) Try the Hadith about the Quran came down on seven (Ahruf) there is your proof ... And I know that Morocco use the Warsh style of reciting and writing too , now why write the Quran question , is to refer to it , and an imam is not going to use a book to lead Taraweeh in Ramadan ... some ppl behind the Imam may use the book to remind the imam if he has a senior moment ...the Arabes who memorized the Quran can ALWAYS correct the Quran's scribes errors , as the Prophet recited the whole Quran every Ramadan so His followers do .

[@wifechadly]

@Qui Creva Sp ) first there are NO versions of the Quran , there are styles .. check the Hadith about the Quran came down on seven ( Ahruf) , a swimmer can swim Butterfly , Breaststrock, backstroke or freestyle, etc... THESE ARE NOT THE SAME , Warsh , Hafs , Al Duri , Qalun ... they have ALL 114 Chapter ...I can listen and know and understand them all , and can tell what chapter they are reciting .. it is beautiful ... But a person in the parking lot , can't see the line of scrimmage

[@einc70]

@Assad Mahiddin The gospel message never was changed neither Torah on which it is based. This whole Bible is "corrupted" conspiracy is all imams invention. Your scholars knew the Bible and Quran were contradicting each other so they invented this heresy to protect the flaws of the content of the Quran. But we know the truth. It is a matter of time we dig in your oral tradition and what your prophet said in and out of this Quran you call holy which is really Muhammad's Quran not yours.

[@wifechadly]

@Qui Creva Sp ) DOUBLE YAWN , STOP EXSPOSING YOUR DEEP IGNORANCE . the word (Qutila) in warsh and ( Qaatala) in hafs in 3:46 is pointing to the Godly ones who are not afread to defend their Prophet even to die for the truth ... since you got your information from wikipedia you got it wrong and out of context ... the word that comes after (Qutila) or ( Qaatala) is immediately ( MA3AHU ) it means the subject is the Godly ones not the Prophets ...the whole verse is praising these godly ones ... but if you ride a broom, I can only say congratulation for your stallion . Catholic 73 books , Protestant 66 , Jehovah a different Bible ...etc witch version do you accept ? BUSTED Your deceitful game is up thanks to your arrogance / ignorance the Quran can not be perfect and preserve in a faulty mind .

[@zhoubuzz6273]

👍

[@headlibrarian1996]

It makes me wonder how many of the Quran's "revelations" were the invention of later authors, intended to justify whatever political or military need was required by them or their patron.

[@jbsan9791]

Thank you guys for sharing this information. It is amazing to watch that the Muslim world ignores or tries to hush up the truth about Quran. It shows that islam is a man-made religion, and whoever benefiting from it are leading their own people to hell. Boy, how can they live with their own conscience? God knows.

[@MW-ec1jx]

Every old religious scribtures have been selected edited and corrcted. You will find in errors and contradictions in evey religious canon. That‘s a fact

[@DerMelodist]

Saturday morning apologetics.

[@1powerequalsgod]

This is off topic but Medina is name given to a Egyptian town and Mecca a name given place located in Spain. Both these places pre-date the Quran and Muhammad well over a thousand years so it makes for wonder why they never ever get mentioned by scholars. Also, there no early archeological evidence supporting the existence of Mecca and Medina in Arabia found on any ancient maps makes for wonder how Muslims can believe the in those places in Saudi Arabia so-called important to Islam.

[@marmosetfreund8506]

Allahu-akbar! ... err umm good job guys :)

[@teabag718]

Be aware of the Cross ✝️!! It came from evil pagan Human Sacrifice, not the Teaching of Jesus Christ ???

[@mozalora477]

Be aware of black stone too, that's was a pagan worshipers

[@teabag718]

Was three days and three nights enough to Save the World 🌍?? Isn’t the punishment eternal death ?? Shouldn’t the Sacrifice be eternal ??

[@bobertospearza8800]

The Proof Is In The Text of the quran ... The History Does Lie or Add Up Any Way You Put It ... The "TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE" Christ Jesus Yeshua Elohim Emmanuel Hosanna...!!!

[@mostafafatouaki5188]

The text not the word (recitation)

[@teabag718]

Where is Mercy of God , if God only can forgive sins with Condition ?? Can God forgive without Shedding Blood of Jesus Christ ???

[@robertruggiero9999]

Jesus’ death was a the way God wanted to show mankind his (god’s) love of mankind - that he would send his son to earth to live as a man and die a horrible death. Jesus did not have to die / he could have chosen to be saved by angels (as he says in the bible) but he chose to die in accordance with god’s plan. What act of love for mankind does allah give ??

[@marjuparsada3070]

THE CHRISTIANS SAY THAT PAUL IS THE PROPHET OF THE PEOPLE OF CHRISTIANS, WHILE PAUL WAS JEWISH MAN. HOW IS THE RELATIONSHIP OF PAUL THE JEWISH MAN WITH CHRISTIAN ? READ: ACTS 21 : 39 .

[@robertruggiero9999]

Started off as an ultra strict Jew then saw the light of Jesus Christ and was convinced that the way to God was through the teachings of Jesus rather than rigid adherence to Judaism

[@marjuparsada3070]

NOT TRUE JESUS WILLINGLY SACRIFICED HIMSELF CRUCIFIED TO REDEEM THE SINS OF MANKIND. THE TRUE IS JESUS WAS ARRESTED BY STRATAGEM AND SENTENCED TO DEATH BY WAY OF CRUCIFIXION BY THE CHIEF PRIESTS AND THE ELDERS OF THE JEWISH NATION. READ: DEUTERONOMY 24 : 16 MATTHEW 26 : 1-5 MARK 10 : 33 .

[@interreligionstudy6966]

Always wrong....they did not eraised it...i checked my quran ,its same, dn try to fool people

[@adamdavidson4318]

Oh my God these guys have no clue what a manuscript is and how they used them ! This is a joke !

[@dannyrichard5069]

No one can write Quran as Quran of Allah. But can correct it hahahahaha

[@nfazal4065]

Sounds very much like Bibles'History but on a miniscual level: Bart Eherman Head,school of theology,North Carolina University. Prof.Dr.Fazal Cambridge

[@abdulhamid2784]

Hellooo The Quran is the word of Almighty Allah.It is He Who brought the Holy Quran down and It is He who guards It.

[@einc70]

Did he recite it himself to Muhammad? Give one ayat from Allah?

[@otden3817]

tell that to the sheep that ate part of the koran

[@Pignificent]

There is no god.

[@jimmiejames9154]

You are obviously a scholar. Why do you work with a obvious non-scholar.I am sure many viewers get the idea that the Hafs version dates only from 1924 and that all these corrections were made after that date only to make them conform to that to that text. Obviously you know it is much more complicated .Jay Smith only side-tracks your real scholarship.

[@HH-ss9vj]

Jimmie James Thank you for the comment about the Hafs version. It was needed.

[@realitycheck3672]

*Jesus was a Muslim*

[@marapaprr4930]

@Indigator Veritatis That's actually not true by the Bibles own standard and I say this as a Christian. Jesus was not God. Nevertheless, Muhammad was a false prophet.

[@marapaprr4930]

@Indigator Veritatis Well, then surely you can show were I can find the trinity in my Bible explicitly. It is pretty rude to deny someone else's Christian believe, especially if the doctrinal basis is so shaky as it is the case with the trinity. To be clear: Neither Jesus nor his disciples had any idea about what the trinity should be. We can trace the genesis of the doctrine to pagan converts in the Greek world, it is not a Jewish idea. Every Christian can say this with confidence.

[@marapaprr4930]

@Indigator Veritatis Of course I tell you that you are wrong. If things are so clear then you should be able to provide any proof about the trinity in the Bible. I am curious to hear yours, because in all the time I dealt with this topic I never heared any convincing one. Go ahead. Edit: What I meant by denying someone else's believe is to deny that they are Christians because of some doctrinal issues without being able to logically proof that they are actually wrong. When I tell that you are wrong about the trinity, I do that by claiming something usefull, namely that you can't find the trinity in the Bible. You didn't claim any such thing but insulted.

[@marapaprr4930]

@Indigator Veritatis Ok, give me some specific reference please. I am reading the New Testament in Greek because my background is from Greece.

[@theguyver4934]

No he was Jewish