The Quran's Many Problems 02 - Overview, Part 2

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Is the Quran complete and preserved? How does this book fair out against textual criticism analysis?
Join Al and Jay as they share the latest research discoveries done by scholars concerning the many critical issues and problems in the Quran. The material shared here are so problematic that many scholars dare not to share it directly out of concern for their own safety. So, buckle up as this series can get rocky at times in terms of its exposition of the many damaging issues in the early Quranic manuscripts that will change the view on the Quran as we know it.
This episode will kick off a series of 9 shows covering six different areas related to the Quran, its compilation, preservation, and its earliest manuscripts.
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@pashagagarin356
@pashagagarin356 4 жыл бұрын
Hello from ex-muslim ✋ love from Turkey
@fvillag1
@fvillag1 4 жыл бұрын
Be careful and stay strong.
@GedaliahAR
@GedaliahAR 6 жыл бұрын
Two Video's side by side fab...shared as usual..added to my playlist..
@lstudsuk6810
@lstudsuk6810 6 жыл бұрын
yeah right ! never seen som1 comment like this, obvsly your one of them
@lstudsuk6810
@lstudsuk6810 6 жыл бұрын
Im saying this guy is ike '' YEah shared as usual ,, added to playlist just to promote for the video so he's one of the Dr J Team :P
@GedaliahAR
@GedaliahAR 6 жыл бұрын
Lstuds@UK I am a LADY not a guy..this is Alfadi's Channel NOT Jay's.. Check my playlist added there also shared to my FB page for support.....to Alfadi NOT bad four out of FOUR ALL wrong...do NOT give up your DAY JOB....no Sherlock Homes are you..
@angrygirl7083
@angrygirl7083 2 жыл бұрын
Great and important work by Al Fadi and guest Dr. Jay Smith. A unique approach which will prove effective.
@denisSwe
@denisSwe 6 жыл бұрын
awesome i look forward to the next points you have
@TheBbraamse08
@TheBbraamse08 6 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love watching Christian apologists and polemicists. I think Al Fadi and Jay Smith are two of the most genuine and gentle people in these groups. I have recently been able to talk to a co-worker who is Muslim and he has invited me to speak with a teacher at his mosque. I have been able to meet with them both to discuss their faith and why they believe in Islam. I look forward to content like this video as fuel to burn for my passion of showing the love of Christ to all people (in this case our lost Muslim brothers). Lord willing and you read this comment, please pray for me as I move forward with my relationship with these men. Also, feel free to share any advice you may have for this situation as I look to show these men that they have been deceived their entire lives but also to do so with a genuine love such as you have for your Arabian brothers. Please please please keep up the great work, Al Fadi. May God bless your ministry.
@mam241
@mam241 6 жыл бұрын
BBraamse God bless you bro, praying for you. Praise ye the Lord!
@TheBbraamse08
@TheBbraamse08 6 жыл бұрын
meluhawasy, can you please provide some sources to back up your claims? If you cannot, or do not reply, I will assume, by your silence, that you know nothing of the topic and are, in fact, incorrect in your claims.
@mam241
@mam241 6 жыл бұрын
BBraamse gottems..
@TheBbraamse08
@TheBbraamse08 6 жыл бұрын
meluhawasy, so basically what you are saying is that you have no actual sources? Thanks for confirming what we already knew.
@TheBbraamse08
@TheBbraamse08 6 жыл бұрын
meluhawasy, take the time to actually listen to Jay Smith and Al Fadi before you comment. Lord have mercy on you.
@AllThat-Is
@AllThat-Is 6 жыл бұрын
The knowledge and integrity of all previous apologists up to the present day is being brought into question.
@ichthys1575
@ichthys1575 4 жыл бұрын
God is using this channel to enlighten me, glory to God.
@ayoubchahir3504
@ayoubchahir3504 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a muslim, and I don't agree with my scholars, but I truly believe in god, and instead of presenting these scholars that I don't know anyone of them, I want to discover more your books, verses, and I truly want to take the most out of them
@thomas7571
@thomas7571 4 жыл бұрын
As a Christian I’m truly glad to hear that you are willing to question your scholars unlike most Muslims do, I’m not trying to throw any shade, but I truly hope that you go through with the research, as from what I know (this is my opinion and you don’t have to agree) but the Islamic scholarship is a complete joke, but again this is my opinion.
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 3 жыл бұрын
Well if it makes you feel better than there are christians who believe that jesus (PBUH) was only a human
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomas7571 - Yahweh bless you brother
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 6 жыл бұрын
YHWH will hold Shabir Ally accountable for all the innocent Muslims he has led astray. He KNOWS what the Bible/Gospel says, and he knows it well enough. Pray for Shabir Ally, that he finds his Savior- he could lead MILLIONS of lost Muslims to Yeshua Jesus.
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 4 жыл бұрын
@@abubakarisadiqueibrahim481 If you recognize a creator who made all the things on Earth and in the Universe, what makes you think he cannot communicate with his CREATION? What does he do- sit back and twiddle his thumbs and just WATCH? You underestimate the God of the Universe.
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 4 жыл бұрын
@@abubakarisadiqueibrahim481 Hear a voice? That's not how he communicates. He said in the scripture that he would write his laws and commandments on our HEART, our inner mind. If you can't hear God, it's because you're not listening!
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 4 жыл бұрын
@@abubakarisadiqueibrahim481 If you have a baby, and your baby is crying and not using WORDS to tell you he needs something, how do you know what he wants? Use your spiritual mind Abu. You are deeper and more intuitive than what you pretend to be. You are making EXCUSES to ignore GOD! But in the end, when your physical life is OVER, you WILL come to know God. You are selling yourself short from JOY and peace.
@dajjalmohammadmulhidpeer5198
@dajjalmohammadmulhidpeer5198 3 жыл бұрын
@@abubakarisadiqueibrahim481 its better to stay agnostic than making people think that you found the truth of the universe.
@dajjalmohammadmulhidpeer5198
@dajjalmohammadmulhidpeer5198 3 жыл бұрын
@@abubakarisadiqueibrahim481 I have not written anything to offend you or insult you. If you are a person who doesn't want to seek truth and believe only in Mohammed and Islam, you need to wash your face and educate yourself. Go learn what agnosticism means.
@polycare
@polycare 4 жыл бұрын
the written text of Quran is not needed as longs as there enough Muslims in the world that memorise it. That will never change, because in every day and age until the day of judgement there will always be millions who memorise it. Most Muslims memorise at least part of the Quran to use in their daily prayers. the are 1.8 Billion Muslims in the world and most of them memorise at least part of the Quran.. what more protection can you get ? use your common sense people
@lstudsuk6810
@lstudsuk6810 6 жыл бұрын
Dr Jay and his brother?
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 6 жыл бұрын
I would really LOVE to see Al Fadi look at and read the six early Quranic Musafs, to help non Arabic speakers HEAR the differences!!!
@FreeRadical7118
@FreeRadical7118 6 жыл бұрын
*Warrior Linda Clark* Do you really want these 6000+ verses read to us in Arabic and English? I'd lapse into a coma, so I'd learn little or nothing. I'd as soon bathe in a vat of acid. There is a slight distinction in Mushaf and Quran, so what specifically are you asking? Many Muslims confuse the two terms, but Mushaf are "divine writings" that also include Taurat and Injeel. Quran was Muhammad's Mushaf, transmitted to him by "Jibreel". "Musaf" is something totally different, coming from a Jewish belief. I think you've confused your terminology.
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 6 жыл бұрын
Betsy Ross I mean the Topkapi, Sa'ana, the Paris Petrapolonis, the Mahil, and the other two early Quranic Musafs, in their entirety. I want to hear some English/Arabic speaker read them! I don't want the Hadiths, read. I have those. I have the commentaries in English. What I'd like is to listen to these early manuscripts and read along, aya by aya with my Hafs to hear the difference. Perty easy to do I'd think.
@FreeRadical7118
@FreeRadical7118 6 жыл бұрын
*Warrior Linda Clark* "Musaf" is a Jewish belief, "MusHaf" (with the "h") is what you're trying to say. Sometimes, a single letter makes a humongous difference in Semetic languages. So, you want to hear the different Quranic Mushaf. But, good luck in your request! Puin's assessment of the Sana'a MSS was all over the internet when it was first published, but that was many years ago, so I don't know if the link to the actual newspaper can still be found. It probably does exist somewhere in a YT search, and it's a fascinating scholarly assessment of this early collection of MSS. He had to smuggle more than 30K digital images of the different MSS pages out of Yemen, because the government didn't want this knowledge made public. I did save Puin's assessment: "My idea is that the Koran is a kind of cocktail of texts that were not all understood even at the time of Muhammad. Many of them may even be a hundred years older than Islam itself. Even within the Islamic traditions there is a huge body of contradictory information, including a significant Christian substrate; one can derive a whole Islamic anti-history from them if one wants. The Qur’an claims for itself that it is ‘mubeen,’ or clear, but if you look at it, you will notice that every fifth sentence or so simply doesn’t make sense. Many Muslims will tell you otherwise, of course, but the fact is that a fifth of the Qur’anic text is just incomprehensible. This is what has caused the traditional anxiety regarding translation. If the Qur’an is not comprehensible, if it can’t even be understood in Arabic, then it’s not translatable into any language. That is why Muslims are afraid. Since the Qur’an claims repeatedly to be clear but is not-there is an obvious and serious contradiction. Something else must be going on." I think there was a fatwa threatened if Puin published a book of his findings.
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 6 жыл бұрын
meluhawasy You don't even know who Satan IS my Muslim friend. Islam teaches that Satan is only a Jinn. But the Bible teaches, IN EVERY PLACE in the Bible, that Satan is a fallen Angel that God threw out of heaven. Guess what the Bible names him....he is called "the greatest of deceivers" EXACTLY like one of Allah's 99 names. There CAN'T be TWO greatest of deceivers. Have you considered this- maybe Satan doesn't NEED to run from Qur'an chanting, when he is probably the AUTHOR of your QUR'AN?
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 6 жыл бұрын
meluhawasy It continually amazes me that Muslims have a warped perspective on Qur'an and Bible. You do KNOW your Qur'an doesn't say what you just said to me? You're quoting modern Islamic Scholars who are trying to substantiate the Qur'an. You do know that the Old Testament was written nearly 3000 years before the Qur'an? And the Gospel 600 years before the Qur'an? Did you even LISTEN to Dr. Jay and Al Fadi speak about how your Qur'an actually CONFIRMS the Bible at the time Qur'an was written? The Bible we have TODAY says the same things as the Bible at the time of Muhammad. Do a Qur'an check for confirmation of Bible. Your Imam doesn't WANT you to know this. If you read the Gospel, you will see the huge difference between the two Books- Qur'an and Bible.
@manava13skplayer50
@manava13skplayer50 4 жыл бұрын
Ya know i am not really scholar or studied my religion well but even i remember one verse that says Qur'an is preserved ch14 verse 9.
@dajjalmohammadmulhidpeer5198
@dajjalmohammadmulhidpeer5198 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings, Dr. AlFadi and Dr. Jay Smith. How do you propose to spread your polemics word for educating the rest of the world? I mean nobody knows about your findings and efforts you've put and the rout of Islam. For example, in Indonesia or Malaysia, nobody has heard of your studies yet.
@lekirh7416
@lekirh7416 6 жыл бұрын
Human freewill..
@polycare
@polycare 4 жыл бұрын
The Quran is memorized by millions of Muslims from all over the world, in every century since it was revealed there have always been millions of Muslims who memorize it.. that's undeniable protection from change over the years.. In the prayers when anyone recites the Quran and makes a mistake there are 10s of people who recognize the mistake and correct them that in each prayer in each mosque.. how many prayers are taking place each day, in how many mosques in how many towns in how many cities in how many countries.. use your common sense people
@DavidKnowles
@DavidKnowles 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Uthman codex has this level of support today. True. However, you seem to forget or are maybe unaware that although the Uthman codex was canonized under the reign of Caliph Uthman, it still underwent three hundred years of revisions between 700 and 1000 AD transforming it from the rasm script to the scripta plena. God's message evidently needed to be made clearer. Despite Uthman ibn Affan's best attempt to destroy all the different versions of Allah's revelation, other codices still exist today e.g. the Sana'a manuscript which contain 5000+ deviations. This are facts and it is our duty as authentic and upright believers to embrace the truth, whatever it may be. All the best.
@techytrendysolutions6063
@techytrendysolutions6063 6 жыл бұрын
Translate your channel in different language of continent.
@keezemojito1278
@keezemojito1278 3 жыл бұрын
We need this in french
@faisalfalculan
@faisalfalculan Жыл бұрын
AL-FADI SAID ===>>> The Quran's Many Problems 02 ALLAH SUBHAANAHU WA TA'ALA IS CHALLENGE YOU AL FADI ALIAS ABU JAHL & ABU LAHAB " And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah , if you should be truthful. " - Qur'an 2:23 Say: "Surely, if mankind and jinn were to get together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they will never be able to produce the like of it, howsoever they might help one another. " - Qur'an 17:88
@darriuscole8544
@darriuscole8544 6 жыл бұрын
Al, I don't know if you or Jay check these comments but if you do, can you tell me what is the earliest complete copy of the Quran? Yesterday (June 21, 2018), someone from DCCI (Hatun I think, but he/she did not say their name) told me that Topkapi is not complete. That's fine. I understand that the manuscripts that are commonly mentioned are not complete; my question is what is the oldest Quran manuscript that actually is complete, textual variants aside?
@FreeRadical7118
@FreeRadical7118 6 жыл бұрын
*Darrius Cole* What Muslims claim doesn't harmonize with what their earliest records show: there has never been a complete Quran. Abdulläh b. Umar [a companion of Muhammad] reportedly said, "Let none of you say, 'I have got the whole of the Koran.' How does he know what all of it is? Much of the Koran has gone. Let him say instead, “I have got what has survived.'" Aisha said that the verses of stoning, and adult breast feeding, disappeared when a tame goat came in the house and ate them, while the community was preparing for Muhammad's burial.
@FreeRadical7118
@FreeRadical7118 6 жыл бұрын
*Qui Creva Sp* _SIGH_ We only have so many sources to quote, so it's really odd we chose the same two quotes, when there are many others attesting to Allah's inability to protect his words. Guess this god has always been a complete loser, so maybe his brain also got scrambled in the mess. We need to get out of each other's heads! ;-)
@darriuscole8544
@darriuscole8544 6 жыл бұрын
@Qui Creva Sp - Just convert to Islam so that you can get your virgins with the giant knockers. 78:31 - Indeed, for the righteous is attainment - 78:32 - Gardens and grapevines 78:33 - And full-breasted [companions] of equal age 78:34 - And a full cup. 78:35 - No ill speech will they hear therein or any falsehood - 78:36 - [As] reward from your Lord, [a generous] gift [made due by] account, 78:37 - [From] the Lord of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them, the Most Merciful. They possess not from Him [authority for] speech. @Qui Creva Sp -This can only be a gift from God. They got huge jugs, they don't listen to gossip and the best part....THEY DON'T EVEN TALK. You can't beat that. Allah must be God because only God would think to give me a woman with huge cans, who I can have sex with whenever and however I want, who I don't have to listen to, the same age as me. ?????? Umm...What was that part again? "78:33 - And full-breasted [companions] OF EQUAL AGE" Of "equal age"? What the $%^& is this $##@! I don't want a woman as old as I am! No man wants a woman as old as he is! Lesbians don't want women as old as they are either! I take it back. This Allah guy clearly IS NOT God. Not one who actually knows how men think, who is trying to win men over by promising them sex and companionship in the after life, would offer a man a woman who is as old he is. This is irrefutable evidence that this cat isn't God. In fact it proves that Muhammad is not a profit either. A true prophet would have caught that. I mean Moses realized that Allah made a mistake by trying to require Muslims to pray 50 times a day and he had Allah correct it. If Muhammad was actually a prophet he would have realized that Allah messed up the afterlife companions and had Allah to change his mind on this too.... Muhammad said that Jibril said that Allah said: "And full-breasted [companions] OF EQUAL AGE "(78:33) Muhammad would have said if he were a prophet: "Um, err, yeah, about that, you see...NO MAN WANTS SEX WITH A WOMAN HIS OWN AGE AS A REWARD. I mean look at me, my favorite wife just turned 11(by a lunar calendar) yesterday. (Bukhari Bk 63: Hadith 120 & 122) I got her a dollhouse for a present.(An-Nasa'i Bk 26: Hadith 183) Men jump straight from wanting an older woman to wanting a younger woman with no in-between. Young boys want women older than they are because those women are developed; men with no money want women older than they are because those women have money, like Khadija; and men who have money want women younger than they are. At no point do we want a woman of equal age. Can we get Allah to fix that? Jibril would have said if Muhammad were a prophet: "I'll talk to him and see what I can do. Jibril in next visit if Muhammad were a prophet: "Well, he insisted that they be of equal age (56:37) but he is make them eternally virgins (56:36) so no matter how many times they have sex, they will be virgins again for the next time." (Al-Jalalayn) Muhammad would have said if he were a prophet: "But she doesn't count as a virgin if she has already...just forget it. You know Jibril, Allah does not seem to be very smart. I mean this is easy stuff. If he can get this wrong imagine how wrong he will be other stuff. We need to follow someone a little more intelligent, who actually knows stuff. You got any ideas? Jibril if Muhammad were a prophet: Well, I remember one time I was in Samaria and I saw a guy tell a woman all things the she ever did.....
@darriuscole8544
@darriuscole8544 6 жыл бұрын
Well, I didn't say anything about Betty, but since you mentioned it, No. No, her knockers are not good enough. Neither is the rest of her. If the Quran teaches us anything at all it is this. NO EARTHLY WOMAN IS GOOD ENOUGH. That's why we get so many other women in Jannah.
@darriuscole8544
@darriuscole8544 6 жыл бұрын
It's not my fault. I didn't say it, Allah said it,...not that's not right. Actually Muhammad said that Jibril said that Allah said it. No that's not right either. Uthman ordered some men to write that Muhammad said that Jibril said that Allah said it; yeah that's right.
@titobabu7980
@titobabu7980 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@izzuccoch9123
@izzuccoch9123 6 жыл бұрын
👌👏👏
@polycare
@polycare 4 жыл бұрын
at 6.43 are you nuts Jay? every single one of the quotes is saying that the Quran hasn't changed and you are telling what exactly? am I missing something?
@martinogbuclement2484
@martinogbuclement2484 2 жыл бұрын
How has this obvious lie kept millions in the dark over centuries?
@yearight1205
@yearight1205 5 жыл бұрын
PLEASE someone help me. Where in the Quran does it say God preserves the previous books of God? I keep getting told by a Muslim friend that my religion has been corrupted, but if the Quran says the bible is protected I can point that part out and stop him making that point.
@saadobilla711
@saadobilla711 5 жыл бұрын
I will not explain this here but I advice you to read the tafsir (detail) by Ibn Kaseer of the verses of the Quran quoted in this video. Furthermore, the proof that your religion is corrupted... Christians are not even following the present Bible we have today... Certain beliefs of the Christianity are not found anywhere in the Bible.
@marjupsd3728
@marjupsd3728 4 жыл бұрын
LUKAS 19:27-28 27. But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and SLAY them before me. 28. And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to Jerusalem.
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 6 жыл бұрын
I truly believe this information is finally coming into the light, as the Bible says, the closer we come to the 2nd coming of Jesus, knowledge will increase. The more Islam is exposed as a man-made ideology, and false, more Muslims will come to know Jesus. I believe this with all my soul!
@consoledev9380
@consoledev9380 6 жыл бұрын
Warrior Linda Clark - Linda don't be crazy they will never follow Zeus Paulism! Crazy theology with its anti-monotheist trinity concept! Get rid of Son of God, Trinity and the killing of Jesus bring him back a ghost (how could your God allow that) then they might consider Christianity but then it becomes Islam!
@consoledev9380
@consoledev9380 6 жыл бұрын
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@FreeRadical7118
@FreeRadical7118 6 жыл бұрын
*Console Dev* Hey, help a gal out here, Console! I've been studying the Quran for nearly 17 years, and Allah had 500+ years to examine all of Paul's teachings, but never once condemns him as false. Allah does however seem to have ripped Muhammad's aorta in two, just as he threatened to do with liars [S 69.44 - 46}. Allah also commands his Muslims to come to the people of the book to clear up their confusion, but never the other way around. In fact, this daft numen of Islam commands people of the book to use the Taurat, the Injeel, and ALL that we have received from OUR Lord, as our standard for all judgments. So, are you saying that Allah was stupid to make such statements? Is he too ignorant to clearly express himself? Is stupidity a divine attribute? Is the road to jannah paved with Allah's boulders of stupidity?
@lindaclark6148
@lindaclark6148 6 жыл бұрын
Console Dev I'll check out this video, but there truly are HUNDREDS more scholars who absolutely disagree with the information this video attempts to "prove". You also miss the point Console Dev. Jesus is either who he says he is, or not. There is too much evidence that proves he IS WHO HE SAYS HE IS. I choose to believe, because MODERN evidence proves that EVIL exists. Just the simple fact that Muslims cannot SEE how heinous their Allah and Muhammad are, proves evil as a powerful BEING, and if there is a powerful evil being, there MUST be a benevolent Being called God. So we're back to Jesus is who he says he is, or not. A completed LOGICAL equation. I choose LOGIC.
@FreeRadical7118
@FreeRadical7118 6 жыл бұрын
*meluhawasy* Look, cuppie-cake, I've been doing this for more than a dozen years, so I'm well aware of Muslims trying to avail themselves of more skillful liars than they themselves are. Allah claims the Quran is a clear book (11.1; 12.1; 16.89; 27.75; 34.3; 36.12); easy to understand (44.58, 54.22, 54.32, 54.40); explained in detail (6.114); explaining everything (16.89) conveyed clearly (5.16, 10.15); with no doubt in it (2.1); with clear ordinances (98.3); decisive (86.13) of divine nature (10.37); and full of wisdom (2.32; 43.4; 36.2). It's full of something, for sure, but it isn't wisdom. Is stupidity a divine attribute? If my morals and intelligence are superior to anything found in Allah's words, why would I ever submit to such a numskull as this Muslim god? I've heard the best and the worst of Muslims arguments, and none of them are cleared for take-off on a civilized runway. You're not allowed to change Allah's words, so hurry and shout "Astaghfirullah"! Allah's brainless, and there's no way to sanitize his lunacy. Muslims are tarred & feathered in this numen's stupidity. No escape.
@nasims614
@nasims614 6 жыл бұрын
islam, not a religion. keep this in mind even before say any comment about Quran. I ask you do you have any book just like the Quran. this challenged Quran
@polycare
@polycare 4 жыл бұрын
The first 4 mins 41 seconds is not really saying anything we didn't already know. All Muslims in the know, are aware that the Quran talks about other books, because the other books that were revealed before I mean "the untampered versions" are the word of god, and are considered previous versions of Islam. They were correct and book to be followed at the time they were revealed for the people they were revealed for, and when a new book comes it takes precedence over the old book, the final book that was revealed is the Quran. Muslims believe that as a new book was revealed believers shooul follow the new book, then the next then the next until the final revelation of the Quran.. if there was another book that came after the Quran as a book from god following that , then it would be the book to be followed, but we all know there wasn't another book after the Quran. That's why all Muslims believe that the other books are the word of God and should have been followed when they were revealed and anyone who followed them was following the word of God, but you can't stop at one of the books and say I'm not following the rest.. that what we believe Jews and Christians have done..they stoped at a previous book and refused to progress to the next when it was revealed. It really shows the ignorance of Al-Fadi and how little he knew about Islam when he was a Muslim.
@2sav01
@2sav01 6 жыл бұрын
Love the work.... great and informative..... blessings brothers
@2sav01
@2sav01 6 жыл бұрын
sayedf11 ...... you are the deciver. And it starts with your Quran.... Full of lies..... No one needs to tell me... I read the Quran in Arabic and I see all the contradictory and hate....... What a shame really... Playing the reverse physiology...bs.....
@danniinthedesert
@danniinthedesert 5 жыл бұрын
Why are you allowing 400 years after Christ (4th century) for there to be books yet for the Quran must be less than 1 century? The reasons in the differences in surahs is very simple, some surahs have been combined to make 1 instead of 2. The text is the same. The chapters were put in modern times to make it easier. Just some disagree whether it was all one revelation or two seperate revelations.
@isaacdominguez474
@isaacdominguez474 4 жыл бұрын
the point is why dont the muslim world have a quran from that time period since they claim that it was completed at that time period... The bible never made the claim it was completed in 1st century... The bible was a compilation of books...not a single book lile quran.. secondly we have no books from that time period for its all been destoryed...what we have is copies....all the history we have are from much older manuscripts... But theres is no reason why the muslims in the 7th century couldn't of perserved the original...for they werent going under persecution for 300 plus years like the Christians
@shaziabdulk5840
@shaziabdulk5840 3 жыл бұрын
Peace, firstly here a few verses in the Quran the Final Last Book of GOD on the topic of arguing with people and I strongly urge the speakers in this videos to be sincerely genuine and truthful in their quotes. Especially when quoting please be sure to Quote the whole entire verse instead of misleading mankind with partial information like the terrorist who have high jacked the religion of Islam to fulfil their perverse agendas of committing horrendous crimes and throwing the blame on the religion of Islam..satan has adorned their wrongful ways in their eyes as such. The last verse among these verses is the verse the speaker in the video is using as a crutch to carry out the exact thing that he is saying that the Muslims should not do. He goes on to do what he is preaching against when he himself is doing exactly what he is saying not to do here by taking a polemic stance here against the Muslim (Submitters). [4:107] Do not argue on behalf of those who have wronged their own souls; GOD does not love any betrayer, guilty. [18:22] Some would say, "They were three; their dog being the fourth," while others would say, "Five; the sixth being their dog," as they guessed. Others said, "Seven," and the eighth was their dog. Say, "My Lord is the best knower of their number." Only a few knew the correct number. Therefore, do not argue with them; just go along with them. You need not consult anyone about this. [29:46] Do not argue with the people of the scripture (Jews, Christians, & Muslims) except in the nicest possible manner-unless they transgress- and say, "We believe in what was revealed to us and in what was revealed to you, and our god and your god is one and the same; to Him we are submitters." GOD has sent a mathematical miracle to prove that proves that Quran is the true word of GOD. The tampering of the word of GOD is in detail explained here if you go to this link here you will see for yourself how Quran proves just like the number of chromosomes in each cell of our body is calculated and how everything. Is perfectly measured to show us signs of GOD’s signatures in everything is pointing to GOD as being An Intelligent Creator of it’s origin. www.masjidtucson.org/quran/miracle/a_profound_miracle_sura68nun133.html www.masjidtucson.org
@nasims614
@nasims614 6 жыл бұрын
this discussion missing to know what is messages Quran saying, we steel argument holy Quran it's true or false we waste time. ask you, did you get any book from Allah or god after the Holy Quran.now tell you the Quran is the declaration of laws from Allah or god.tell me the united nation where from the get laws even America and western countries where they get laws.
@nasims614
@nasims614 6 жыл бұрын
quran is the book of declaration law from God or Allah.mohammad wasn't do prophecy he was the only messenger from God or Allah, just like others were the prophet. now proof angel brings the message from Allah if you know the Quran.he was a prophet from Allah this proof also in the Quran ask me more ok.i will take you the truth
@nasims614
@nasims614 6 жыл бұрын
what is the problem of Islamic history, Arab kings they destroy Islam, we need to do discover Islam? how I can tell you
@saadobilla711
@saadobilla711 5 жыл бұрын
@KZbiner U Quran is the direct word from Allah revealed to the Prophet Muhammad pbuh. The proof that the Prophet Muhammad pbuh did not wrote the Quran is that the Holy Prophet pbuh could not read or write.
@RafikKhan-ol4zk
@RafikKhan-ol4zk Жыл бұрын
the bible has many many condridictions in the bible ask your christian brother LIoyd Evans
@kornykpop7622
@kornykpop7622 6 жыл бұрын
You guys already completed two episode, Just talking here and there, Nothing from the headline. Mr. Smith introduce himself as a Christian clearly what is wrong with the other guy, he never says, he is Muslim! (dress or language is not a sign of religious identity) Questionable!
@cmk5724
@cmk5724 6 жыл бұрын
Korny Kpop Al-Fadi is a Christian. His dress is common in the Middle East, and was even before the colonization of the area by Arab Muslims. The Persians dressed like that when they went to battle, for example.
@kornykpop7622
@kornykpop7622 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! but here he acts like a Muslim, He never identify himself as a christian, Thanks to Mr. Smith for clearly identifying himself as a Christian.
@ahadunahad7955
@ahadunahad7955 6 жыл бұрын
Korny Kpop he is not a muslim he just wearing tradional arab dress
@divyachacko3449
@divyachacko3449 6 жыл бұрын
Al fahdi plz can u tell me if Muhammed was a fabricated person or not.all the wives he had n their names n what ever they did n battles of Camel ,etc.how can tat be made up too.
@mam241
@mam241 6 жыл бұрын
Divya Chacko he's not a made up person... just a made up prophet..
@divyachacko3449
@divyachacko3449 6 жыл бұрын
mam241 tat means he existed and he did all these weird things n had real wives .is tat what u r saying.
@divyachacko3449
@divyachacko3449 6 жыл бұрын
mam241 so u r saying abd Al malick made him up.have u seen Al fahdi's about the prophet 1st episode
@mam241
@mam241 6 жыл бұрын
Divya Chacko i havent seen episode 1... he said mohamed didnt exist?
@divyachacko3449
@divyachacko3449 6 жыл бұрын
mam241 right he n Jay Smith said tat. c tat episode
@Heroesbleed
@Heroesbleed 5 жыл бұрын
One characteristic of Islam is its addiction to unsupported claims. In fact, one could call Islam, the Religion of Unsupported Claims.
@saadobilla711
@saadobilla711 5 жыл бұрын
Crossbow1987 It's your religion who follows the beliefs which are not mentioned in the Bible. Certain beliefs of Christianity are not found in the Bible. Every thing we do in Islam have proofs from the Quran or Hadis.
@Heroesbleed
@Heroesbleed 5 жыл бұрын
Saad Amjad Well, one of the characteristics of Muslims and Islam I’ve found over the years is making claims that have no support. In fact, I cal Islam the Religion of Unsupported Claims. Now, I say that because I’m about to make the classic argumentative mistake of asking you to explain your comment. Even if you bother to respond, you won’t support what you’ve said and then just plow ahead making more unsupported claims. True?
@saadobilla711
@saadobilla711 5 жыл бұрын
@@Heroesbleed I'm willing to argue with you but are you willing to argue with me?
@saadobilla711
@saadobilla711 5 жыл бұрын
@@Heroesbleed Well let me explain you... Christians celebrate Christmas on 25 December believing that Jesus was born on that day... Where is it mentioned in the Bible that Jesus was born on 25 December?
@Heroesbleed
@Heroesbleed 5 жыл бұрын
@@saadobilla711 I'll answer your question in a minute but let me address your reasoning. Are you arguing that because the exact date of Christ's birth isn't in the Bible, somehow Christ didn't exist?
@yadirbear
@yadirbear 6 жыл бұрын
8. There were 28 generations from David to Jesus. Mt.1:17. 9. There were 43 generations from David to Jesus. Lk.3:23-31. 10. Jacob was Joseph's father. Mt.1:16. 11. Heli was Joseph's father. Lk.3:23. 12. He was to be called Emmanuel. Mt.1:23. 13. He was called Jesus. Mt.1:25. 14. Joseph, Mary, and Jesus flee to Egypt while Herod slaughters all males under 2 years old. Mt.2:13-16. (Note: Jesus' cousin, John, was also under 2 and survived without having to flee.)
@yadirbear
@yadirbear 6 жыл бұрын
20. Satan tempted Jesus. Mt.4:1-10; Mk.1:13; Lk.4:1,2. 21. Satan had no interest in Jesus. Jn.14:30. 22. The baptism of Jesus was with the "Holy Ghost". Mk.1:8; Jn.1:33. 23. Fire was also added to the baptism. Mt.3:11; Lu.3:16. 24. John knew of Jesus before he baptized him. Mt.3:11-13; Jn.1:28,29. 25. John knew nothing of Jesus at all. Mt.11:1-3. 26. Jesus begins his ministry after John's arrest. Mk.1:13,14.
@yadirbear
@yadirbear 6 жыл бұрын
15. Joseph, Mary, and Jesus did not flee to Egypt, but remained for temple rituals. No slaughter of infants is mentioned! Lk.2:21-39. 16. Jesus was tempted during the 40 days in the wilderness. Mk.1:13. 17. Jesus was tempted after the 40 days in the wilderness. Mt.4:2,3. 18. The devil first took Jesus to the pinnacle, then to the mountain top. Mt.4:5-8. 19. The devil first took Jesus to the mountain top, then to the pinnacle. Lk.4:5-9. 20. Satan tempted Jesus. Mt.4:1-10; Mk.1:13; Lk.4:1,2.
@dawoodfaqier9762
@dawoodfaqier9762 4 жыл бұрын
Christians talking about the preservation of the Quran is insane 😂😂
@fvillag1
@fvillag1 4 жыл бұрын
WHY??
@abuuazhar3738
@abuuazhar3738 5 жыл бұрын
What do you say about Prof. Bart Ehrman??? Hahahaaa
@isaacdominguez474
@isaacdominguez474 4 жыл бұрын
Bart erhman admits none of the variant differences, challenge or discredit the doctrine of christianity...
@m.zarifhossain2065
@m.zarifhossain2065 6 жыл бұрын
you should talk to Mr zakir naik
@italiano3.16
@italiano3.16 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@essyhro6688
@essyhro6688 4 жыл бұрын
@John Kennedy why? Because he arguments in a logical way?
@essyhro6688
@essyhro6688 4 жыл бұрын
@John Kennedy what def? give me an example or a Video name dude
@yadirbear
@yadirbear 6 жыл бұрын
There is an old tradition of listing the contradictions in the bible New Testament 1. Jesus' lineage was traced through David's son Solomon. Mt.1:6. Jesus' lineage was traced through David's son Nathan. Lk.3:31. 2. The announcement of the special birth came before conception. Lk.1:26-31. 3. The announcement of the special birth came after conception. Mt.1:18-21. 4. Jesus' parents were told of their son's future greatness. Mt.1:18-21; Lk.1:28-35. 5. Jesus' parents knew nothing of their son's potential. Lk.2:48-50. 6. The angel told Joseph. Mt.1:20. 7. The angel told Mary. Lk.1:28. 8. There were 28 generations from David to Jesus. Mt.1:17.
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