Citroën ë-C4 - It's Just Got A Little Something??

[@rezner101]

I've had C4's for the past 8 years, I love them. The boots are always good, the ride excellent and the quirkiness just right. This I think will be my next car.

[@Protogenic_Noob]

C4uk member?

[@bernardhilton3527]

I really like the look of this car. IMO it’s a better looker than the e208 / e2008. Quiet inside is good.

[@thomash2806]

A bit of aerodynamics: spoilers don’t create downforce. They spoil ‘bad’ airflow in order to reduce drag. Wings create downforce.

[@Elkott]

I'm stuck with a petrol car for 2 more years but it's exciting seeing how fast electric cars are developing, I'm sure that in 2 years when I can finally get my first EV I'll be spoilt for choice

[@davidlewis4399]

I am stuck with a petrol car until I have a spare 30+ K

[@Elkott]

@@davidlewis4399 I'm not buying new, hopefully used cars with a CCS charger will be in my price range in 2 years

[@jorgemendoza325]

@@davidlewis4399 MG5 has a very competitive price. I hope they keep it similar with the new facelift.

[@Cloudrak]

@@davidlewis4399 You could look at used Renault Zoes 2017 and up

[@joshpipe7755]

Did you get an EV in the end? 😊

[@jonathantaylor1998]

I'm so pleased you've posted this eC4 review video - the first driving one I've seen for this model. With the ever worsening state of UK roads, plus the increasing levels of congestion, having a car that cushions and protects you from these stresses is surely a good thing. Give it a few years - so I can afford a pre-owned one - and I think you've just shown me my Leaf replacement...! Thanks, guys - appreciate it. :-)

[@mrlintonious]

At least a manufacturer that makes a more practical use of the Glove Box for EV's, and not stick to the old standards.

[@luisfernandes4145]

Me having a Citroën C5 with hidractive suspension, I'm sold, I want one!

[@Sam-tx1tn]

Can now pick up a used one with 20k miles for less then 16k. Nuts

[@stepheng8779]

Big plus point that there's enough to differentiate between the others in the group and it's not just another clone. Reminded me of the Toyota C-HR from the back.

[@dufonrafal]

You end up understanding something that buyer should be more aware of: liking a car on a short test drive or at first sight, isn't the same as liking a car for years of daily driving it. Manufacturer go for "sporty" feeling car because most buyer will look for that on their test drive and most journalist will look for that on their review, but on daily basis, a car tuned for comfort is much better. And that is basically the main reason why I would go for a Citroën or a DS and not another brand.

[@garyallsopp6369]

Anyone who has stood in the rain waiting for the electric seat to go back, after their significantly shorter partner has been driving, will appreciate the manual seat position adjuster!

[@PaulMansfield]

Why don't they have numbered keys and memory seats? How hard is that these days?

[@kimmohietala5359]

And less unnecessary weight

[@adamgriffiths4178]

This! ☝️ absolutely! Went to look at a c4 today and loved the fact this was manual 😂👍

[@Drhiggythered]

I think you're right about the discounts. Citroen are well known for discounting their range of cars and its even quite hard to buy a new Citroen ICE car at full list price.

[@klaushaunstrupchristensen7252]

I salute Citroën on bringing a comfortable riding car for the masses (it obviously depend how masses are defined). Why should only millionaires drive in comfort? Love it!

[@kimmohietala5359]

All this fake “sportiness” have been ruining cars for a long time. Good for Citroën returning to it's strengths.

[@two-countiesdashcam]

Was this filmed in Yorkshire ?? I only ask Coz it's not raining...

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Coventry with the AMI.

[@alfrredd]

From Madrid 🇪🇸 to the world ❤

[@brec5879]

Nice lookin car. Great review. I hadn’t thought of an electric Citroen but in my list now when I do think of moving to electric.

[@williamgoode9114]

4:00 can you show lights working, eg blinkers, brake lights, DRL etc etc maybe even headlights in full dark

[@iKaGe01]

Looks impressive. A tad better looking than the ID4 dare I say?

[@alunhoskins4513]

Wow. Very refreshing. A Citroën that seems to drive like Citroën’s used to! What with this and the Ami it seems that Citroën are properly back having been a bit ordinary for a couple of decades. Bring it on👍

[@j.celgoog3275]

2:22 Very true, I have seen a black C4, it fit the car very well.

[@mauricehorton477]

Picking ours up on Wednesday. My better half said yes we will buy it within a quarter of a mile due to the fantastic ride comfort and with it being a bit higher off the road than our Volvo making it easy to get in and out of.

[@stevelongden7368]

Had a C4 estate about 12 year ago for a couple of years and have to say it by far the.most comfortable and practical car I’ve ever had, it even looked good. Got promoted so got “higher end”cars thereafter but non of them were as comfy to drive. Just a shame tariffs next year will probably price them out of the market.

[@ltrtg13]

I'm quite sure the blue piece on the inside of the door isn't leather.

[@kevinlawson2668]

Price and size looks like it's main non-PSA competition will be the ID3 Life

[@Mi82475]

I prefer the look of this over Peugeot and DS. And THANK GOD for the fisical bottons of the AC 😅

[@RWBHere]

Citroën have often been quirky in looks, so that's expected. They're Marmite cars for that reason, but they do have a habit of growing on you. Thanks for the balanced review, guys.

[@alanmcconachie]

Whats that weird orange glow on your face during the walkaround. More used to seeing the cars with beading on the bonnet during these reviews.

[@Gaspode_]

So how does the passenger side airbag work whith the ipad tray? Does it propel the ipad into your face at 300MPH in an accident?

[@garyallsopp6369]

Isn't this a class bigger than the other PSA cars though - I thought this was C segment as opposed to B segment?

[@garyallsopp6369]

@Jack Yes BSUV like Mokka & Fiat 500x, but it is biggest in class- nearly as big as Qashqai. Load length is shorter than CSUVs though.

[@stephandolby]

The price makes a bit more sense when you remember it's from the class above the 2008 and DS 3. Hard to ignore that ZS EV though.

[@davidsworld5837]

yes you can ignore the zs ev on the issues of RUST check out there owners website about the poll about rust.

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@davidsworld5837 And I believe rust isn't the only issue. Getting anything seen to under the MG warranty is allegedly sometimes problematic. Anything Chinese just will not have sound build quality. Full stop. I can see many of these ZS EV's having their bodywork "reconditioned" after being traded in at 2 to 3 years old......... What a serious contender it could have been if they HAD got it right though? But if it had a much higher standard of fit and finish it would be more expensive. You get what you pay for I guess.......

[@davidsworld5837]

@roadking080161 it is down to know its has faults and accepting them. i have seen another video that showed very thin and in parts missing underseal on MG by an owner the thing comes is that it is cheap even quiet new models are now going for closer to 19K. But if you only want for 3 or 4 years then you buy new car then no so much a problem but if like me i may be keeping my car 10 year plus it is. I think to keep costs down they have used lower quality items that will need replacement sooner but this will only show up in a few years time. if you have the car resealed your self will this void the warranty but then will they accept any problems with the car if the rust gets so bad in a few years and them repairing it for free. My guess is that very few people will get there car fixed under this they will find some excuss that it was the way you drove the car to get out of doing a repair under warranty

[@PaulMansfield]

Shame you didn't show if there's a central arm rest with cup holders and usb power in the back? It looks like there's a ski hatch, I saw something in the boot.

[@graemecampbell9037]

Whilst it's easy to compair to its in house PSA rivals, where would you put it in relation to the smaller battery versions of the Kona and E-Niro?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

I’d go for the eNiro.

[@javalam7769]

Lads great video. Vauxhall bit,laughed my head off. I like the look of the car and when you said it rides like a BMW 7 series made up my mind to book a test drive. I can relate to how you talk.

[@williamgoode9114]

9:00 what is the hump

[@mirkozlikovski9553]

most likely battery management electronics or charger... cause this is multi-energy platform, not pure EV...

[@paultasker7788]

It's definitely more interesting than most.

[@philgalpin9284]

'EU tariff', what gave you that idea? You chose to leave the community!

[@usfouru2]

The European BEV manufacturers are about 10 years behind the Chinese and Korean manufacturers when you consider things they can do like Integrated Power Electric system includes world’s first multi-charging (400V/800V) and bi-directional power conversion function. Platform modularization and standardization enable rapid and flexible development depending on customer needs. Hyundai Motor Group plans to introduce 23 BEV models and sell 1 million BEV units worldwide by 2025. BEVs based on E-GMP can provide range over 500km on a full charge (WLTP) and be charged up to 80% within 18 minutes through high-speed charging. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWbNe4GnpLuJrZY

[@komoriboy]

I'm wondering how the passenger shelf/ipad stand affects the airbag? I know it's designed to be used when parked but you just know people will use it when on a long journey.

[@IThinkItIsTimeToPlay]

It will shoot over the tablet

[@stephendye2924]

Tell us again, how comfortable is it? :)

[@paulinchris]

It looks large from the side, nice car overall.

[@williamgoode9114]

That's the thick floor pan of battery they will all look like that

[@sologog8129]

For me it’s better looking car than e2008 and I love comfort car.

[@blacklablover2982]

Regardless of cost, the Ec4 or the eMokka? 😁

[@colinmacdonald5732]

I like it but yearn for the days when Citroën's were styled purely for function and still looked awesome, think CX estate, an absolutely stonking load carrier but looked like a rocket ship.

[@davidpearn5925]

How much is servicing over 5 years ? Are software updates inexpensive ? Dealerships will need higher sales margins to stay in business I suspect.

[@johnmunro4952]

I'm about to make the leap and this is where my monies going. I'm nearly 50 so comfort is more important to me than performance these days. The one I'm looking at is £12K. I'm hoping to get £7k for my old ICE car so fingers crossed I'll be quids in.

[@bdbobbydog]

Its looks like a C4 i would be happy to drive. The predecessors just never appealed to me

[@savedfaves]

Ideal setup would be four wireless chargers in all EVs. Two front and two in the rear when you fold down the rear arm rest (or two in the rear of the front arm rest for the back passengers). It's the way forward. Just do it. There's no reason why anyone in the car should need to charge with a cable. Some USB-C should be in addition to the four wireless chargers, for those times when kids of whomever needs to use their device while it's charging-on a long journey, etc.

[@hamshackleton]

You didn't say/show if the back seats fold down, and how much space there really is when you do that. I like the looks, but not the price. Another 50 miles real range would be nice, too. So far I'm torn between the Nero and the MG Estate, not that I can afford either!

[@jorgemendoza325]

MG5 for me. I wish it had a flat bed with the seats folded. It would have been perfect!

[@philgalpin9284]

'First one in Europe! Saw this in the dealers in Perpignan about six weeks ago. Very impressed. Oh, and UK is not 'in Europe'. Don't believe that price will remains the same after the new year., it will be comparitivelly cheaper here because Citroen usually 'pile high and sell cheap'.

[@100tinsoldiers]

the UK is in Europe, its no longer in the European Union.

[@brittanyfirst1608]

@@100tinsoldiers UK is the new Australia dixit Bobo....what a Trumpette!!!!!!

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

First official ‘drive’ in Europe.

[@Mark-M72]

how about a long term review of the model 3 , focusing on the niggles?

[@_B.M_]

I thought the C4 was a larger platform than the 208. Isn't the C3 on the same platform as the 208 which in theory makes this a class above.

[@mikedignum1868]

I kind of like it.

[@davidpearn5925]

I would have thought that the hatch lid would be thermoplastic .

[@Brian-om2hh]

Purely as an electric car it ticks quite a few boxes. But for me personally it all goes wrong when you get to the badge, and the reputation that often accompanies it......... Some time ago I bought a used car from a dealer selling one of the well known Japanese brands. The salesman commented on the fact that they try to avoid taking Citroens in part exchange because they get so many issues with build quality and electrical gremlins. And one thing you could well do without is electrical gremlins on an electric car.........

[@andywilliamson4234]

Picked one of these over the id3 as next company car. Looking forward to the comfort and quality interior. Id3 interior just does not equal the quality you should expect from VW. Think things are tight at VW after Diesel gate?

[@andrewfuller9442]

I think the E-C4 looks good and i like it better than the 2008. This could be the car to convert me to electric. I'm very surprised what you can get for your money regarding electric cars , especially on the used market.

[@topgearalwaysrock]

Citroen living up to its quirkiness!

[@lauriemiles1842]

I can't wait to see your take on the Citroën Ami, EVM 😳

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Christmas video that one.

[@JohnDoe-vx3z]

@@ElectricVehicleMan it probably fits in a Christmas gift box 😄

[@savedfaves]

Range: Bjorn Nyland got 123 miles of range in summer (22 degrees Celsius) driving at 75 mph. He got 186 miles driving at 56 mph (27 degrees Celsius). So winter range likely below 150 miles. Bit disappointing. Guess you'll always trade some range for comfort (weight).

[@ruslanrodriguez2786]

ah, good review at last!

[@kimmohietala5359]

EV that is nice to drive and comfortable. Finally

[@nigeldavidson5169]

Shame u couldn’t work out how to mount the ipad😂

[@jonathansmith5850]

I personally can’t stand french cars as a rule for many many reasons but this is quite pretty to look at

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

What about Vauxhall?

[@grahamlockley4435]

Always had a soft spot for Citroen (before they became part of the Borg) for being different. The outside of this however just makes me think they toned down the Toyota CHR.

[@OurEVJourney]

I pick my up at the end of may

[@jozef5373]

We picked one 2 weeks ago and it is amazing car! Enjoy!

[@jofpodcast2020]

@@jozef5373 I can wait

[@von_Apa]

My next car! Love my c4. 👍

[@MaximilianvonPinneberg]

Same platform as Corsa, DS3 and 208? Surely they are class below. This is Golf sized.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Octavia shares platform with Golf, but it’s a bigger car. They can vary the size.

[@sanoj92]

This is Citroens equivalent to e-2008 and Mokka (and DS3 Crossback E)

[@MaximilianvonPinneberg]

@@sanoj92 Yeah, I looked into t after making teh comment. So this is similar in platform/size to the Cactus. Using a smaller platform expanded for a size above. Thanks.

[@davidsworld5837]

piano black band at back. the back lights look angry when red lights came on. will there be less headbanging soon ok morecambe and wise you decide which is which. now why are you both not wearing the EVM tops so insurance group may be more important the E208 is lower than ecorsa

[@lacino4520]

30 miles to work,30 miles back; which ev you will recommend? Thanks

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Any you like and can afford.

[@lacino4520]

@@ElectricVehicleMan Thanks, like Kia e soul, but what I was asking is I spent around 40€ a week for diesel plus oil change basic service, electric car costs around 10000 € more than normal petrol or diesel, when I will start saving money?

[@barriewilliams4526]

If you have even been to France you will note how few foreign cars there are 🤔 The French (unlike the Brits) tend to purchase cars made in France. Just a thought 🙂

[@didierlemoine6771]

Most french cars r not made in France :)

[@cliffdavies9424]

I'd love to buy a British car but I don't fancy a Morgan

[@andijhall]

When will a modern ev manufacturer have an on board charging cable. With all the bells and whistles cars have these days, surely you could have a pull out cable inside of having to empty the boot to get your cable

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Where would it go in the car other than take loads of room up and be immensely expensive to replace?

[@andijhall]

Under the bonnet. In the boot lid. I'm sure the designers could figure it out

[@MCSMIK]

perfect taxi car?

[@HalfDayHero]

I have seen a lot of chatter around, stating that this car barely sees 130 mile range on a full charge during cold weather, and, at best, only averages about 160 miles on a good day...Citreon claim it can do 217 miles, whereas it seems the real-world reviews are massively under this claimed range...these reports are disappointing to me.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Just like mpg claims really.

[@whatever-xw8cw]

Had mine since the end of Octobre. I have gotten 140 - 170 miles of range so far (fairly south in Sweden, so temperatures between appr. -8 to +8 degrees Celsius). What I will get in summer, I do not know yet but probably higher, maybe 170 - 200 miles. Satisfied with that, better than I expected actually.

[@syketherocker]

Really wishing it was available in the United States.

[@savedfaves]

The iPad holder is completely over engineered. They also missed a trick to make it magnetically attach.

[@jonathanmellish4439]

The 208 looks much nicer than this. Its a bit of a mess imo. I like the Corsa to drive although its plain to look at compared to the 208.

[@watcher24601]

Not a genuine EVM review, it's not raining! Not a fan of SUVs especially the shape which makes the rear wheels look smaller than the front wheels. At least the controls are not in a sub-menu like Peugeot

[@miguelmayer3473]

C4 is one class higher than 208. I'll wait for the e308.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

We said 2008.

[@clivecrossley1750]

For heavens sake black gloss carry a clean duster and keep it clean not a hard job is it

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Shouldn’t be a job at all! Not every time you climb in and out.

[@clivecrossley1750]

@@ElectricVehicleMan Should not be a job every time you climb in and out I have the Outlander and is covered in black gloss if you are tidy and clean should not be a problem

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@@clivecrossley1750 perfect for family life and as a workhorse. Must keep it clean or it looks awful. Exactly why people go for gloss black worktops in kitchens that aren’t meant to be used.

[@paulvanderhaegen761]

ok citroen we almost deere now, do the c3 e at a decent price (25k euro).

[@FlyingFun.]

Vague steering would put me off.

[@davidlewis4399]

30k + charger costs for about 170 miles in the real world no thanks.

[@wiamoaw]

Am I the only one who doesn't like it? looks like a modern civic type R and that's not a compliment.

[@Benszg]

30k and u get plastic canister plastics inside, its 2021, no thanks

[@thelifeofbatteries2603]

I only subscribe because you hate Vauxhall - well done ;-)

[@ianpies2498]

I wish manufacturers would just get rid of that massive centre console between the front seats - there is no need to be all hemmed in.

[@wilsonhitchings6687]

You should start a GoFundMe campaign so that you can move to the USA and review cars here. Fame, fortune and groupies await you.

[@macduff1964a]

Nah, still Kia eNiro for us 👍🏻

[@Brian-om2hh]

It's definately got a little something EVM. It's that French badge on the front. So I'm out, as they say. Never again, after the Peugeot I had in the early 90's. For around £30k it'd be an ID3 or (preferably as it's nicer looking) a Skoda Enyaq all the way for me.

[@richardwallinger1683]

excellent vid stop dancing around not your best presentation .

[@guitonbleu]

the MG ZS is a chinese product. Hence, the price...

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

So is an iPhone.

[@guitonbleu]

@@ElectricVehicleMan yes Indeed ! :-D... But engineering and prices are americans.

[@justinstephenson9360]

Overpriced - like just about every EV. It is a C4 it should be priced in the £20-25k range depending on trim: ie the same price range as the ICE C4. I am hoping that as battery production ramps up and therefore costs come down the overall price will reduce but I cannot help but conclude that at the moment it is simply overpriced for what it is. And the range needs to be longer for me

[@casperhansen826]

BEVs are expensive up front because of the battery, but as you drive them they gets cheaper, actually they are already cheaper than a similar ordinary car within a few years. Electricity is a lot cheaper than gasoline, especially if you can charge at home. An EV don't need that much maintenance, no oil changes, next to no brake wear, not much that can go wrong in the drivetrain. Check your daily commute, I travel 52 km/35 miles every day so I would need about the 150 km/100 miles of range to make sure I have enough range on a kold winter day. What about long road trips I hear you ask, then you would need fast charging and about 250-300 miles of range and then plan the charging into your trip and have some nice breaks while charging. Please, check Bjørn Nyland and his 1000 km trips, some EVs can do it in less than 10 hours with a speedlimit of 110 km/h!

[@justinstephenson9360]

@@casperhansen826 EVs are on average £8-10,000 more expensive than the equivalent ICE model of the same car whic by an incredible coincidence just happens to be the amount you would save in running and maintenance costs by buying the EV. I admit to being a cynic who does not believe in coincidence

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

You’re forgetting depreciation which is far lower for EVs. That makes them cheaper. Cars aren’t worthless when you buy them.

[@robshill7214]

what happens if the car gets in an unfortunate accident when the passenger is watching their iPad? surely it will be propelled into their face?!

[@Sherukka]

They did not secure it in this video and that is the main point of the thing.

[@cal_lywal]

Airbag directs over it apparently

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Pretty sure it’s not designed to be used when moving, anymore than cup holders inside a glove box are.

[@Sherukka]

@@ElectricVehicleMan You are now 100% wrong. 😱

[@howardjones8629]

Is the airbag in the roof lining as it was in the car cactus?

[@AV-hx1bm]

All this electric cars so.......so expensive need a mortgage to buy them 👎

[@antonydanby]

1st post ;-)

[@Elkott]

Congratulations! A Blue Peter badge is in the post 😁

[@mach1nefan]

But you've put 14 comments on this channel alone.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Shall I delete it folks so it’s no longer first! 😄

[@mach1nefan]

@@ElectricVehicleMan Yes mate!

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

@roadking080161 Only Yorkshire men.

[@bruceburnett3765]

Buy British.

[@sanoj92]

Are there any competitors to this car from Britain though?

[@bruceburnett3765]

@@sanoj92 Yes.

[@G0ogs]

Interesting looking car but I don’t buy french and what’s this bloke on about 😮🤣

[@relaxnchill9335]

Ugly and cheap interior 👎

[@graycrow]

The ugliest production car in the world. The Fiat Multipla and Pontiac Aztec were not even close :)

[@JohnDoe-vx3z]

Multipla is still the king, but this gets close. As a former C4 owner, I'd never buy this abomination.

[@sanoj92]

Disagree. Think it looks good