City of San Francisco sabotage 80 years later

Forgotten credit: Drew Jackish owns the photo at 8:15
One of the most mysterious accidents ever covered. A wreck that remains unsolved to this day. Also there's an announcement at the end
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[@robertmongerthe9025]

No one living in Carlin bought into the sabotage BS. SP had been doing a good job of union busting along their lines for years and the MOW crews were very often illegals who would work cheaper than the locals but they also did substandard work. Palisade Canyon was notorious for derailments of freight trains on the SP side of things. When the City of SF derailed it shocked a lot of people but it surprised no one. Tools being found close to the site means nothing-I fish the Humboldt on a regular basis and find all the tools and pieces of iron anyone could think of. The SP were complete slobs and have left their junk scattered everywhere. So there was no sabotage, just a piss poor maintenance record, a train driver with a lead foot, an FBI agent trying to make a name for himself, and a railroad that didn't want to get sued.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Very interesting. So that could mean the rail that was found to be moved 40ft inward was either deferred mantience or shifted by the wreck because the track bed was mush. Then again that does explain why SP was complaining about a newsman taking photographs that "made the wreck look worse that it was" while I know news agencies are notorious for that to sell a story (hence their piss poor weather reports) a wreck like this? yeah you can't make it look more worse than what you see there the only way to make it look more horrifying is seeing it for yourself in person. Thank you for sharing.

[@dripsong8967]

I was kind of thinking bit of the same thing, but I tossed aside as something else

[@mandyplodek639]

My theory is this: The tracks were sabotaged by a western pacific worker. At the time SP & the WP were sworn enemies, and a track maintenance worker from the WP could have snuck to the Southern Pacific tracks and sabotaged it while he was supposed to be working on the nearby WP tracks. A maintenance worker would obviously have quick and easy access to the tools needed to move the rail inward and remove the spikes. He would have also made it look like an SP worker did it to hit the espee’s reputation. It would have put the SP tracks out of service, making them loose money, and the WP tracks would be used instead, making them gain money. But he probably meant to derail a freight train, and when he saw that the city of San Francisco had derailed and many were dead, he went into hiding in the fear of getting caught and facing life in prison/execution.

[@kellyoleary6599]

Never would have thought.

[@75732]

Brilliant theory!

[@Metrolinkguy865]

I 100% agree with you

[@jordandorsett3106]

You Detective 🕵️‍♂️ you may have solved the mystery

[@yeetboiwhatyesplease2095]

Checks out.

[@superliner101hobbyfarming]

Imagine there being somebody watching this video and having their grandad tell them to turn it off immediately

[@odiecalodie]

Its pretty safe to say this person is probably dead.

[@sparechannel9962]

Superliner 101 well we arent american and my grandad hasnt gone to usa

[@sparechannel9962]

odiecalodie what if he drove the locomotive??

[@odiecalodie]

@@sparechannel9962 What are you talking about?

[@griffinrails]

This video: Grandparents: s w e a t

[@TrainGuru]

The weird thing is I just searched up this disaster when I got this notification... Yikes

[@scidididi9564]

4294 Productions hmmm mmmmm sbooby

[@virginiarailfannoah5415]

He's part of the Illuminati.

[@TrainGuru]

@@virginiarailfannoah5415 very funny...

[@PannierLaw]

4294 Productions ,Better call FBI Agent Murder and Agent Scully from the FBIs X-Files Division

[@TrainGuru]

PannierTankProductions 1929 😂 better move to Cuba!

[@cableyoutuber]

All we had to do was follow the damn train, CJ! *Mission Failed* *The train was destroyed*

[@Ilikebakconn2]

That Gamer And Meme Guy lol

[@roseannedenham2591]

I'll have two number nines, a number nine large, a number six with extra dip, a number seven, two number forty fives, one with cheese, and a large soda

[@superbaddy4]

I really wish a full E2A could have been preserved... They're my Favorite Carbody Diesels of all time...

[@annastasiamorgan8516]

Superbaddy4 nah the f7s are the best

[@steffenrosmus1864]

Ugly as hell

[@rhodesianwojak2095]

hm

[@jakeandzack5763]

I prefer the EA/E1

[@yanski-sc6vc]

i wish an e2 not the usa the thomas was pervesd

[@CPorter]

I love that you put actual, non-recreated, and Licensed 30s music in here at the beginning. Not too many people are actually brave enough to do that for whatever reason. Also you didn't just slap any song you found either, this is a very obscure and rare version of an already mostly unknown 1931 song that didn't even chart It fit the mood perfectly. Great choice. As for the video itself, its your usual great style. I remember seeing in a Modern Marvels documentary that they arrested someone for the sabotage.

[@chiftelgaming7983]

can you plese tell me the name of the song?

[@CPorter]

@@chiftelgaming7983 Lonesome Lover - Vincent Lopez & His Orchestra (1931)

[@chiftelgaming7983]

@@CPorter thank you

[@thatoneredtankengine-bobby2850]

I have never heard of the wreck edit: ok this probably one of the most mysterious train wrecks I have ever heard O_O

[@thecursedcombine3951]

Hello there. :>

[@fazerace1499]

That one red tank engine-bobby NANI!!

[@JosephKulik2016]

Why does people's ignorance of the true cause of an event make them think that there is some "mystery" about it ? Anyone who was really honest with himself would need to admit that there are many things about which he is ignorant, and there is nothing "mysterious" at all about ignorance. The most rational explanation here is that someone in the desolate Nevada desert thought that it would be fun to derail a train and actually got away with it. It is sad that such people exist, but there is nothing "mysterious" about it at all.

[@madkirk7431]

same

[@pmsteamrailroading]

There has been an entire book written about it.

[@SeanBodine]

There's another wreck involving the City of San Francisco in 1951, when it rear ended the City of Los Angeles in Wyuta Wyoming. Both crashes are on a Pentrex DVD I own.

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

What's it named?

[@SeanBodine]

Train Wrecks, Crashes & Disasters. You can find it on their website.

[@663rainmaker]

Sean Bodine WyUta?? ?? Never heard of it! And I am Wyomingite... Wamsutter?? 1950’s?? Big BoyZ crash

[@StocktonSubber]

Sean Bodine Saw that on Amazon Video

[@badlarry4575]

@@663rainmaker It's not a town, but a railroad name of a siding on the Wyoming/Utah border west of Evanston.

[@cruiserdude16]

The person who has already disliked is probably also the person who goes to a restaurant's yelp or something that isn't even open yet and leaves a bad review.

[@ee-yc3dy]

No one actually disliked it and if someone did then that's makes no since unless if they hate thunderbolt but I find hard to believe

[@cruiserdude16]

Quentin Kubajak well when I made the comment someone did dislike for some reason. They must of saw my comment and changed their mind.

[@ee-yc3dy]

@@cruiserdude16 oh ok

[@REDARROW_A_Personal]

One of people who disliked the video probably were the same people who sabotaged the the tracks.

[@ee-yc3dy]

@@REDARROW_A_Personal good theory

[@anonharingenamn]

"The train was running half an hour late" This seems to be a recurring theme in a lot of these events, even though it was often not the cause of the accident (Other than stressed out operators etc).

[@guitarpro248]

I was thinking the exact same thing! It seems like late trains are always go over the safe speed limit to make up for lost time, with most paying the ultimate price... RIP to the lives lost that day...

[@DEAD_ACCOUNT0000]

*but it was too late*

[@MegaBrokenstar]

Kind of odd, but it does seem fairly consistent. It seems like when a railroad has a bad day, almost always one of the first things to go wrong is the timetable slipping.

[@alext7667]

what a name, I thought this was about a city being sabotaged...

[@ItzBIULDmusic]

If you knew this channel, you knew it would be a train lol

[@thediamondfighter5301]

Me too

[@vicenteescobedo7544]

you just got flexed on son

[@75732]

It is a train channel😒!!!!

[@75732]

But I can’t say this I can’t say that this person is completely done because when I looked at the name it looks like he was talking about the city being sabotage to

[@TheFallofTheEleventh]

“When all of a sudden-“ *literal sounds of the apocalypse play*

[@davidrayner9832]

I was an engineer, recently retired after 40 years on the job. We've all gone a few mph over the speed limit to make up time but we know where we can do that. We know where the track is a little rough and where the tighter curves are but 30 mph over is ridiculous. If the track really was tampered with, the accident would probably still have happened but the damage would not have been as bad. If the track was OK and excessive speed was the cause and the company covered it up and laid the blame on a person that didn't exist, both they and the engineer know they are to blame. The company for telling him to speed (if they did, or at least turning a blind eye to it if they knew it was going on) and him for doing it. Of course, this happened long before the data loggers we have today or even the Hassler tapes we had when I was new on the job.

[@yanski-sc6vc]

your lying

[@ItzBIULDmusic]

@@yanski-sc6vc MAYBE.

[@spvillano]

Who was Casey Jones again? Why did the railroad love him again? We love him for a far different reason. Devotion to duty, which is why the railroad loved him as well. End of the day, that offset, if undetected, would derail any train today. The real world isn't a fucking version of the movie "Speed".

[@mason7133]

@@yanski-sc6vc then prove it

[@NASCARCHAT24]

@@yanski-sc6vc if you think he is lying, you don’t believe anything.

[@PannierLaw]

Don’t know why but this reminds of those railway Sabotage incidents that happened in France before WW2 started

[@dwightstewart7181]

However, there's no evidence of such railway sabotage in the United States. Besides, sabotage is usually directed at military or cargo trains, not isolated passenger trains.

[@markfrench8892]

And for those interested in trying to solve this case, it's still open and there's still a reward.

[@benconway9010]

Well wats the pay now it was 5grand back then so wat would it be in today's money 😂😂

[@jukebox_heroperson3994]

$5000

[@maxsido2149]

For both of the Sabotages of 1939 and 1995

[@kiryu-chan1590]

100000$

[@plushmaster2i443]

Wow that’s newsworthy

[@realrtot9138]

Awesome! But R.I.P for the people who died here. (Edit) the music at 0:00 sounds good

[@carfanfan]

Love all your videos - keep it up. It's really interesting to know what happened and also many years after a catastrophic event.

[@virginiarailfannoah5415]

Yet another excellent documentary! Keep up the good work, Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions.

[@juanjodrax1209]

I love your well researched and informed vids. Be confident in what you say in voice over, your content is exceptional - love a radio dj

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

I am sure that both this crash and the Sunset Limited crash were caused by a disgruntled employee because I doubt that anyone who aren't railroad employees could have been able to get the equipment to remove the rails and disable the signals.

[@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874]

1:36 that's the California Zephyr route. Notice how it goes through Kansas and Colorado (CB&Q and D&RGW territory) instead of Nebraska and Wyoming (UP territory).

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

Yeah, the guy who made the map probably didn't do his research right.

[@jackmorrison7379]

Well I already criticized the garbled pronunciations of the car names and you now show me they screwed up the map. Boy I wanted to like this video, but it needed better editing before uploading.

[@tomfields3682]

The easternmost leg on that map appears to be ATSF track between Chicago and KC.

[@atsfevan0242]

Today marks the 81st anniversary of the 1939 sabotage and still to this day it's unknown who caused this and this happened 6 months before my grandma on my mom's side was born. And may all 24 people who were killed Rest In Peace.

[@Wildstar40]

Strange how the engine cleared the sabotaged part of the track and re-railed itself back onto the good part of the track further down.

[@mkmcclure]

Your first map is spot on. The second, dashed line map, resembles nothing like the C&NW and UP routes.

[@1FBauer]

So, the track moved over 4" after the locomotives passed over that part of the track. This would more likely indicate poor track maintenance than sabotage, otherwise the locomotives would have also derailed. Once the weight of the locomotives came off the rail it bounced back up pulling the remaining spikes out and shifted.

[@adamivester9876]

That rail weighed 1500 pounds

[@griffinrails]

And to think I was going to do it. Can't wait! Edit: Dangit! I missed the premiere! Oh well. Edit 2:I have a theroy: the train was sabotaged by a worker from a steam engine builder(we'll use Baldwin for this) to then later make a propaganda theroy blaming the SP using the speeding theroy, maybe planning to have it seem that the locomotive had issues with its brakes, so that Baldwin could secure it's industry from dieselization. The loco works would easily have access to trackwork equipment to sabotage the track. Of course, this plan would backfire when the leading engine did not derail.

[@FQP-7024]

Me too Bro me too.

[@AlcoLoco251]

I've heard of some interesting railroad conspiracy theories, but this one takes the cake.

[@LexipMedia]

Pretty desperate plot for a corporation that could clearly see diesel was the future.

[@sockshandle]

@@LexipMedia Steam traction lasted until the 50s and at that Diesel traction was fairly primitive and expensive in the 30s and electric was pretty much only used on non freight or local lines (for example in england the LBSCR had electrified specifically via a third rail or something similar and they primarily carried passengers not goods) it was only the big cities that banned steam within their limits necessitating electric traction or diesel traction had NYC Chicago and LA not banned steam traction within their limits steam very well may have lasted a fair amount longer

[@haxsa4467]

Makes sense except for the part with bad brakes. It would probably make their company look worse

[@therealawgm]

Driving the train was going 30 miles per hour over the speed limit

[@HungryGuyStories]

If they can name a train "The City of San Francisco," they should name a city "Train # 142."

[@georgethomson2797]

Thunder: the train derails Me: yea we picked up on that

[@kitzykatz1030]

So, so interesting. Love these really old ones. The locomotive designs are gone for good.

[@virginiarailfannoah5415]

This is just airing, yet theirs a dislike.

[@gorillaau]

Some people will dislike a video because of the horror of the topic. Best advice for creators ignore them! Haters gotta hate is another reason.

[@Shinyarc]

The Shinto Railfan Somebody probably didn’t appreciate the mic quality

[@michaelpham8368]

Noice work on the episode!! Speaking of disasters, hve u done the Harrow and Wealdstone Rail Disaster yet??

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

He already did it.

[@csxtrainfan319]

I think it happened because a southern pacific employee waited for the previous train to be out of site then remove the rail

[@connorflaherty175]

I had a feeling you might do this, but I didn’t know you would do this year.

[@Steamerthesteamtrain]

Those E2s are cool.

[@darknessxxz2353]

Can you do that new York city subway 14th St. Union square derailment

[@convoid8438]

the one in 1991?

[@darknessxxz2353]

Yes

[@darknessxxz2353]

My dad was the first manager on scene

[@samuellaird5184]

Do a video on the 1995 wreck you mentioned

[@mixazizu]

Well... It looks like Engineer learned his lesson (always obey speed limits no matter are you late)

[@PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars]

Interesting video, nice presentation. Curious, the lock didn't jump the track yet the following coaches did. I would guess the rail was loosened and the passage of the lock moved it. Also, why was the speed an issue when it played no part in the accident?

[@Shinyarc]

Well, maybe if the engineer was going slower the crash would have been less severe.

[@Brandonvilches0721]

2:24 the first SF was lucky

[@lucasandresen5238]

I love your videos, Always so detailed and precise, I'm just curious how do you do your research on something that happened soooooo long ago

[@samiam619]

Lucas Andresen, ever hear of the internet? That’s how, if you know where to look.

[@ifor20got]

Nice job as always. Thank you

[@allanadam4553]

It was speed pure and simple, covered up by SP. Track sections back then were 40 feet long and weighed 50 lbs per foot, bolted to each next section of track with two steel plates and two-four bolts. Tracks were spiked down to each sleeper(wood tie) by 2-4 spikes through a plate on either side of track, 4 were required but many used only 3 spikes in an alternating pattern of 1-3,3-1,1-3 to save money, done even today on old track sections. There is no way a track could be moved 4” and the passing engine can clear the 40 foot gap yet stay on the following rail in a curve for another 1000 feet, let alone if the track was perfectly straight. The track was weakened by previous trains and likely no checked by the railroad as often as required. A train going 60mph would not have put as much stress on the outer rail as a train doing 90 mph. The lead engine started the failure, followed by the B units pushing the rail further out and detailing down the embankment pulling the lighter passenger cars with them while taking out the bridge along the way. Only way for the lead engine to remain upright and on track in a curve. Tools in river could have been dropped accidentally off bridge in years prior, many people couldn’t swim back then and who would want to dive into the water in an isolated area to get a tool? It would have taken 4-8 workers more than two hours to move the 2000 pound rail let alone get out to the bridge and away from it before the train passed. They would have had to use a self powered rail car to get there and it would have to be reported it would be the easiest way.

[@barefooboy17]

nope it was sabatoge. Speed had nothing to do with it

[@Wildstar40]

The sabotage could have been done by more than one man and they could have easily moved the rail with a horse or horses but that of course if it was sabotage. If they spun a sabotage lie back then to cover their asses with insurance companies and angry remaining family members with lawyers looking to sue for wrongful death then yeah the corporate rail executives of that time probably lied to cover that the crash was caused by speed.

[@allanadam4553]

Both of you are missing the point, how does a 140 ton engine clear a 40 foot gap in the rail going 90 mph in a slight curve then re-rail itself and travel 1000 foot before stopping? The video says the rail was moved 4 inches out before the train passed. The engine would immediately drop into the gravel and ties never to re-rail itself.

[@Wildstar40]

@@allanadam4553 Maybe you are missing the point. Maybe the forward engine did derail and this was all a elaborate cover up designed to baffle and twist the truth into further obscurity but it was so long ago and it really no longer matters now since all who were truly responsible have long been dead. Personally I do believe it crashed due to speed because that is the simplest and most likely reason but back then some shit heel decided to hide the truth to save money.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Very interesting theories in this comment thread. It's been nearly 80 years so its hard to tell. But just think about the Palo Verde crash. The engines (A Dash 8 and an F40PH) remained upright but the Superliners went diving into the river bed (Not all of them) I was only stating what I found from research from various sources.

[@adventuresofamtrakcascades301]

0:44 those vents the front of the locomotive that makes you feel like it is a truck

[@KDubielak]

Hi thunderbolt I have been loving this channel for a long time

[@robertcouch9021]

Can you do one about the wreak of Big Boy 4005?

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

He's going to do it.

[@harrisonofcolorado8886]

He's doing it. It will release next month.

[@moonprincess500]

It’s out!

[@oliverjonahfusco5140]

The lead locomotive was still on track, but the 2 locomotives were off the track, but they can still run! Three ok locomotives. But the passenger cars weren't so lucky. They fell on their side injuring a lot of people! Some could be dead. R.I.P.

[@time2bcoolYT]

Why do discuss everything if he's going to make a video about it

[@samiam619]

time to have fun , Oliver is one of those people who like to state the obvious.

[@oliverjonahfusco5140]

My brother, Jonah made this, not me.

[@oliverjonahfusco5140]

Jonah is not my middle name.

[@samiam619]

Oliver Jonah Fusco, You know there is a button on the bottom right of your “brothers” post, it is called “delete”. Try it.

[@sirfoxington2258]

Even if I was late I wouldn’t go faster than the speed limit

[@jorgecallico9177]

Good production. One minor detail, This transcontinental east-west rail traffic stopped in Oakland. Across the Bay Bridge from San Francisco. So you might consider editing where you said that the train stopped "at San Francisco". Granted at one time there were rails crossing the Bay Bridge. These however were probably local rails. Not cross country.

[@sharksman20rocks]

The person who could’ve caused the sabotage can’t give in now as he’s probably passed away/deceased

[@MetxsightseerRailfan]

See you in 72 hours

[@homerogarzajr1787]

2 days left

[@blairterry9435]

Somehow the two wrecks have some sort of connection. I heard from a vhs tap that had this wreck said that someone was chasing a earless man who was running from the wreck, but was never caught.

[@jackmorrison7379]

"Embarcadido"? LOL. "Presido"? How about the Presidio. It's the Embarcadero, the reclaimed land waterfront near the Ferry Building and piers in SF. After all the train is named for that city and would use landmarks in existence in the 1930's to name the passenger consist.. This video is a fine introduction to a wreck many of us are learning about for the first time.

[@nascariscool5093]

Hey I live close to San Francisco it’s fun seeing the bridges and see the cable cars

[@raynonabohrer5624]

Very good video and story. All those lives lost and I bet the families didn't get a penny.

[@nofeargaming9403]

My great grandpa was only 13 when this happened. He was born in 1926

[@madkirk7431]

smh... terrorists will do anything to be known...

[@jamesricker3997]

Nobody claimed responsibility

[@Dee-mm1bt]

0:59 when the fire nation attacked

[@Trainlover-ki4vg]

Keep up the good work!

[@locoluke4149]

It looks to me like the train derailed to being over speed. If it was sabotage, wouldn’t the power also have derailed?

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Depends on how bad the damage is. The Palo Verde accident was identical where the power held on to the rails due to their weight but the coaches derailed. If it was overspeed the locomotives would fly off the bridge and be on their side. By the way the power did derail on this train (The B units are off the track but the A unit stayed on)

[@jimblake3574]

At 2:20 it's hard to tell, but almost looks like the A-unit is derailed but still upright.

[@RRansomSmith]

@@jimblake3574 B unit is derailed, not the A. A unit ran to get help so no way it derailed.

[@jasonplatco7881]

The rail itself didn't nescicarially need to be manually moved too much by the sabatour to cause the derailment as it occurred. All that they needed to do was pull enough spikes to allow the track to move, maybe move it off the tie plate and bypass the track circuit. The heavy weight of the lead locomotive would both help keep it on the track and help cause the track to move when it's weight is nolonger on the free section. Ever watch how much a track can move up and down as a train moves over it at a slower speed? Now imagine that including side to side movement and at a high speed.

[@rrbone]

No, not necessarily. See this world war 2 era film on sabotage of railroad equipment. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHSup3ikpKd0sKc

[@vincitveritas3872]

Like these locos. Remind me of UK Deltics.

[@SGTJDerek]

Theory. Track moved 4" on a curve and tools in the river = sabotage. How about the tools were dropped when they built the line/ did maintenance and the track movement was caused by inertia. To much speed and the spikes were weakened enough after the Engine had passed?

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Could be onto something.

[@itsyoboisus2848]

I like this dude's content, he's got a firm foothold here in the platform. Maybe in a couple years we'll see his channel quadruple in size!

[@ryanmearse8813]

Can you do the 1993 Chicago South Shore and Southbend train crash?

[@toupac3195]

My grandmother was on this train. She Boarded in Wichita, KS. The investigation of this incident was highly impressive.

[@MidwesternRailfan]

Funny thing. A CSX train collision happened the same day this video was uploaded. (Collision was at around 5:21am EST on August 12, 2019)

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

No surprise there

[@CardboardSliver]

I mean it is CSX Crash Spin eXplode

[@beckhamebert4148]

Hey my birthday is August 12th!

[@nwsd50sproductions49]

Can you do Ladbroke Grove rail crash In The UK that 31 people Lost their lives?

[@Ty-yt3lj]

NS8098FAN I assume he's working on others but he's also currently working on another crash to happen in the UK. And ho boy it's gonna be big

[@annastasiamorgan8516]

Your lucky he did your idea

[@Frauditorfinder90]

I have plenty of pictures of the winton locomotive engine. I’m a annual pass Holder for the California state railroad museum. All these facts are 100 percent correct.

[@1allanbmw]

There's no "noise" in Illinois!! Lol! Thanks for the video!

[@andyharman3022]

When I'm stuck in traffic on I-80, I call it Ill-annoys.

[@KS-cp6bj]

How can the Oakland pier be in San Francisco?

[@chayn.3918]

Awesome work man keep it up

[@michaelpham8368]

Also, did anyone notice that this disaster is somewhat similar to that of what happened to Clinchfield 311?

[@thunderfox9552]

The fake one you mean. The real Clinchfield 311 is an H4 2-8-0 not a t54 4-8-2 and the H4 had a normal career until being scrapped 1951

[@c418stal5]

When I grow up and take the California Zephyr imma get double chills. That’s how sp00ked I would be

[@PSAboi_1719]

This train wreck kind of reminds me of the 1996 cajole pass runaway.

[@HondaBrosCanSuckMe]

“… engineer ted heidcock…” I wonder what his roll in this story is “…who was the engineer that day” Interesting

[@wolfythewolf4457]

Awesome vid I'm super exited for those new bi level cars next year go septa!

[@bradhig]

Are you going to do the storm of 1952 when the City of San Francisco got stranded in a snowstorm?

[@KDubielak]

That almost scared the daylights out of me when the boom started

[@annastasiamorgan8516]

by far my favorite documentary

[@hunterduncan362]

1:50 When All of a Sudden, (Camera flip then crash sounds)

[@paulhenderson9332]

crash.mp3

[@mikehunt8997]

This RR is near Interstate 80. I saw those bridges from an Army duce and 1/2. We were on our way to Slat Lake City to help out the floods they were having there in 1984.

[@LexipMedia]

A great video, just a couple pronunciation quibbles. Mission Dolores is pronounced DUH-LAWR-IS. Presidio is pronounced PRI-SID-EE-OH by english speakers. Embarcadero is pronounced EM-BAHR-KUH-DAIR-OH. All are place names in San Francisco. A good resource for checking pronunciation of unfamiliar words is Dictionary.com which is where I got the ones used above.

[@POPE58]

LexipMedia this sounds like an ad

[@LexipMedia]

@@POPE58 An ad? Really? For who, Dictionary.com or Thunderbolt1000Siren Productions? Because seriously when I re-read my words I thought I came across more like a darn teacher grading a school project, which was not my actual intent.

[@POPE58]

LexipMedia no only the last part sorry about that

[@JR1300r]

Not everyone pronounces words the same way Their is no right or wrong just variations I am Australian and I have meet Americans who find it difficult to understand me and I find it hard to understand them Cheers from down under

[@LexipMedia]

@@JR1300r Yes, English speakers do have a variety of local accents that alter their pronunciation of many words. I should have pointed out in my original comment that, in addition to being place names around San Francisco the examples I cited all come from Spanish and their proper pronunciation reflects their origins, since as place names there really is only one correct way to pronounce them - the way the locals do. Thus if one insists on pronouncing Tijuana as TIH-JAWN-AH or Monterrey as MAHN-TERRY no one is likely to know what you are talking about. Of course there are exceptions to this - for most English speakers the capital of France is PAHR-ISS even though the locals call it PAH-REE. But in general it helps to stick with the "correct" version - salted with a bit of your own accent. 'Right, mate!

[@MiniforceRailfan]

Train Locomotive: What’s that noise? What?! What just happened? Investigators: Someone sabotaged the Bridge

[@mikehawk2003]

Oakland Pier isnt in SF. You went to the Oakland Pier in Oakland and took a ferry across the bay to SF or if it is the 60s you would stop at the 16th street station then take a bus to SF

[@samiam619]

badplatypus2 Oakland Pier not SF? Close enough.

[@mikehawk2003]

@@samiam619 I mean either way you have to take boat to SF pier

[@ChainsawKaisen]

Yes I Can’t Wait

[@sclm046]

Read about this accident/sabotage. There was a "suspect" that could not be ruled out, but also could not be proven to be the guilty party. As I recall, this person was an employee. The SP brought in another employee to work with this person. A friendship developed between the two. However, the alleged saboteur never made incriminating remarks.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

That must be why many sources say SP suggested it was a disgruntled worker. Others say it was the railroad covering up for shoddy practices such as the train speeding. Sadly we'll never know.

[@Willysmb44]

I heard that the SP historical society put a article in their magazine about the earlier wreck with so much detail, the FBI looked at the list of members who got copies as the Sunset Limited wreck didn't happen too long after the magazine came out

[@MurderPete379]

I've went into the Sacramento train museum and saw the Winton on display what a crazy piece of machinery and a beautiful sight to see on the rails

[@kevinyancey958]

How did the EMD get past the sabotaged section and stay on the rails, if one rail was moved 4 inches.

[@daveprice831]

Staying upright is not the same as staying on the track

[@elijrivera522]

2:11 that’s the picture of the map that was partly used from trainz simulator

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Good pair of eyes ;)

[@MinecraftandMiniworld]

So, the train is nicknamed Queen Mary and a ship built by White Star Line is named Queen Mary and lastly Queen Mary 2.

[@backonpro5679]

I know I’m 2 years late, but queen Mary and queen Mary 2 were Cunard, not White Star Lines

[@gingerbread6614]

Very good video. Thank you

[@Tottleminerftw]

I probably saw that engine when it was at Sacramento when I was young.

[@desireegrisham3892]

My Gawd, I'm glad to know that.

[@drdoomspire3038]

Interesting stuff

[@alexnscn]

awesome video!

[@robloxkid9627]

I saw the live chat during the derailment part and people were panicking and had so much reactions😂

[@hyperluminalreality1]

I bet the cars were actually named the Presidio ( not Presido) and the Embarcadero (not Embargadido). The cars seem to be named after parts of San Fransisco.

[@moisesm9602]

The person who caused this might still be alive 0-0

[@penkagenova7073]

That was about 80 years ago only a little kid young less than 5 years would survive today