Civic Type R VS Honda S2000 Track Battle VTEC Edition

[@speedacademydave]

Want to live a long, happy life? Make sure to rip TEC every day.

[@doctorlobsteroctopus]

A TEC rip a day keeps boredom at Bay.

[@ayowser01]

And eat your vegetables! 😁

[@johncharles4708]

TEC nation

[@JasonMcMullen]

Rip TEC, Change lives

[@mondomoleno.3404]

All day every day in my little Fit!

[@mrdogfight1]

The OG vtec sounds and feels more satisfying. Its a dying breed.

[@joedurt7904]

i know what u mean my 01 s2000 roars like a lions and pulls like a race hose when vtec kicks in

[@PutinIsKing]

I have the B18C in my Dc2 and i just cant think about something more progressive like k20

[@kc510]

Dead breed, sadly.

[@G.Bfit.93]

Dead Honda doesn't do VTEC anymore

[@ChrisHale0629]

Love that you guys used the same tires. I love it when a comparison happens between a car on slicks and all seasons... Nice one guys!

[@averagebro413]

i love track battles!!! this channel is so coool and nice, it has nice energy and he can drive really well

[@R3LF13]

Watches ek civic build: "wow I think I actually want a FWD track car..." Watched s2000 on track: "yeah, maybe not."

[@IR-xy3ij]

This s2000 is heavily modified, with signficant downforce and semi slicks so the video doesn't actually show anything meaningful

[@pdeezz]

Yeah Conti EC Sports are definitely not a semi slick. Anyway both cars were on the same tire 🤔

[@revmatchtv]

Excellent video guys! You really illustrated the difference between FWD vs RWD in a track setting. It boils down to a bit of power vs handling. I’ve driven both, and one clear difference is an ease of driving. At 8/10th the CTR is super easy to drive. The balance is incredible. The s2k requires a lot of practice and skill to drive at the limit.

[@TheBb6prelude]

RevMatchTV ones modded and dialed and ones stock.

[@mediocreman2]

Not really. Check out some of the Japanese races where an Integra Type R and S2000 are very close. That CTR could have been engineered to truly compete on corners, but it wasn't. What you're seeing here is a difference in design approach, and function of the cars.

[@revmatchtv]

MediocreMan The is a CTR here in California putting down some very impressive lap times nearly stock. The video does show a fundamental difference in design approach and platform.

[@Ahmano23]

@@mediocreman2 Type R Integra and S2000 both weigh A LOT less than 2018 CTR. Don't forget that.

[@mediocreman2]

@@revmatchtv Not really. Different drivers though make more of a difference than we want to believe.

[@mickeyhartsell6096]

Wow! That S2000 was an engineering Marvel when it came into production 20 years ago. Just Amazing, Honda really was at the top of there game back then.

[@FlyinGato]

As an owner of both an AP1 S2000 in Grand Prix White with red interior, and an FK8 Civic Type R in Championship white, I can say BOTH cars are AMAZING. I've done a few video comparisons already, but to sum them up - S2000 is more exciting, best of old school Honda, and the FK8 Type R is the most dynamically competent as well as practical. The new turbo 4 in the Type R is a true gem, just like the old F20C was, but with much more power.

[@sammyalx6978]

For science purposes and a huge boost on your channel, you should chuck that K20C on the s2k mate. DO IT

[@duanebailey6253]

@@sammyalx6978 It would have a top speed of 100 it would be aweful with the f20c and not worth the effort so much easier to go k24 and boost for much less money. The f20c is an awesome na motor and the car is about the experience not the straight line power.

[@juanc5149]

What would it take to upgrade a Prelude SH to their level? Could it be done while keeping a functional atts and full interior?

[@duanebailey6253]

@@juanc5149 Call jun and ask them probably one of the only shops to build an insanely fast prelude. ATTS is garbage throw it in the trash. Seeing as most track cars dont have interior prob not however go autox it stock and learn to drive before upgrading then build as you learn.

[@juanc5149]

I’be driven plenty of cars, and have autox and track experience. I completely disagree with atts being garbage. It does it’s intended purpose, and really keeps the handling neutral on a fwd car. I come from decades of driving rwd cars. The Prelude SH makes me driving a fwd bearable.

[@sharkparty1027]

*This fool is running a Honda 2000. I'll win. Then me and my dad can roll together when he gets out of prison. It's all good.*

[@ZyzzNutss69]

*I bet he got more than 100k under the hood of that car*

[@hendrahendra]

He's gone to the carwash!

[@HarryTwatter]

too soon Junior

[@frankiej8780]

So cringy lol sounded cool at the time though lol

[@theejoeylee]

Dont do it! No brake calipers!

[@mickeyhartsell6096]

The balance of the S2000 is incredible, 50/50 balance is so hard to duplicate in a front wheel drive car...

[@DudeThedudesky]

The s2000 has a shit load of downforce. Put that much downforce on the type r and well see the results

[@doctorlobsteroctopus]

I love all your vids, but the track battles are a super nice variation from the builds every now and then. Love the energy and the competitive nature of these vids. That Type R has some legs on the straight!

[@loubarelectroplus4795]

These are monsters, a classic vs a modern, two absolute beasts and iconic Honda cars. Love'em both! Nice video guys!

[@alexrobidoux2062]

Them High Rev engines, gives me goose bumps every time.

[@cduartebr]

Speed Academy keeps getting better and better! Congrats for another great video!

[@altimatic2183]

Watched this while working on my ap2 Please keep the s2k content! Always love it

[@tofufregit]

Am I the only one dreaming of Honda building a new S2000 with the FK8 Type R engine? A simple, driver focused, lightweight roadster with that engine...

[@Riknos]

The F series is amazing though

[@JasonMcMullen]

The K-Tuned Exhaust on the FK8 looks and sounds pretty damn good, and those wheels are sick too

[@easymail116]

Loved the Vette chase car 😂😂 hearing him let off lol. Great vid as always, badass2k will always hold a special place in my heart.

[@Mrtrunks]

You guys kill it every video!

[@itskevinl]

Throw in a foot cam so we can see heel toe footwork!

[@mas921]

Those titan7 wheels look GORGEOUS!!

[@raulvasquez807]

I took my CTR out to button willow and the driving line for FWD was quite different than the RWD driving line. not sure if that makes a difference on your track or not but something worth considering.

[@swanblake]

This video was amazing. Love the battling going on. Great drivers are amazing to watch work. Bliss. Seems like the Civic needed a bit more steering correction in the corners where the S2000 transitioned so smoothly.

[@n-nani8973]

"Do you have a VTEC?" *"VEE-TAHC!"* I wonder if anyone in the comments section will know this reference.

[@tatsu5825]

Keiichi Tsuchiya 👌🏻

[@cloudforest4087]

What a battle! Great examples guys! More races like this. Old vs. New.

[@SilviaSean]

Zed the 350z vs badass s2k please

[@VEDEMRACING99]

Been waiting for this comparison! Thanks for uploading👍 great swan song for the Badass2k

[@TankRust]

Great video as always! So glad you kept the playing field level by using the same model of tire on both cars. Those Conti's were pretty sticky for a 340 TW!

[@KBros]

I love how you guys keep the spirit of challenges in racing up!

[@shaeugfie]

I’d love to see that Type R engine in an s2k

[@G.Bfit.93]

Ew no a S2K is supposed to rev

[@JDM_Jeffro]

Sweet vtec rippin' boys! Great video as always! 🔥🔥🔥

[@texasflysuperstar]

Good vid guys, keeping it interesting.

[@joshmacdonald895]

Nice Video guys! I especially like the chase car angle in the roll race. A pedal cam and/ or a “brake/throttle” display would be awesome too (not asking for much haha) Keep up the good work!

[@paopaoxuevlogskr]

Fantastic Battle 💪 Honda is the brand I can't really give up since I was a kid . I'm 30 now . No matter what car I changed I still keep my fg2 si with me on the side . Take out on the sunny day it just remembers me a lot 😁 .

[@samoksner]

Better battle then I thought it would be, awesome!!

[@mas921]

That was lots of fun! Love these Track battles!

[@fhowland]

Love how pumped up the guys are after the race !

[@alexandermilosevic_]

This was well done nice job guys!

[@vividvulpe9842]

Good stuff, thanks guys! Both excellent and fabulous cars

[@Peterdinh3]

Great video speed academy team!

[@claytontylergolf6081]

Best car channel on KZbin.

[@Crankaholic]

What a great video, thanks guys!

[@herberthans7015]

Instantly subbed for that onboard footage. It's been a while, I subbed on my old account when you guys got started. Now YT decides to recommend other channels to me as I press the button. Hoonigans, more Hoonigans, B is for Build, Rob Dahm, wait what **** you youtube the **** are you thinking, I didn't ****ing sub to Shmee150 or some vlog kid, I watched track footage and gave an actual car channel a sub. Hope there will be more exceptions to the disgusting "vlogging about cars" "using cars to get clicks" "car journalism where it's all about the journalist and barely about the car" trends and categories.

[@frankiej8780]

Awesome video looks like a blast driving those cars

[@S2kDude36]

Thanks guys, nice video. With 100+ more WHP on the CTR, it's no surprise it's faster in a straight line. For the S2000, it shows just how good a nearly 20 year old car is against the latest from Honda. I prefer the RWD S2000 feel, over the test drives I've done on the CTR. Both good cars though, each with their own strengths. Nice to see the same tires on both cars so you can basically eliminate one car having an advantage due to tires.

[@IR-xy3ij]

Not that the base car is that good, but this video shows the difference between a stock car and a heavily modified car that is bordering a race car

[@msalazar89]

You guys make the best videos. 👍

[@GreatDrums.]

Nice to see Canadian content

[@PressurenFlames]

You always will have a MASSIVE advantage of RWD vs FWD on a track with these sharp corners and very few + small straights.

[@stevend7310]

Yeah most people don't talk about advantages in drive trains and tracks Tsukuba is very good for fwd cars. This one great for rwd. Either way as long as you're aware of this, you get bragging rights if you win while at a disadvantage

[@charliesmith5545]

You guys don't attend much track events at this track.... FWD are just as fast if setup proper with experience driver's

[@rumble8014]

Type Rr driver is horrible. He kept flooring it on the corner smh

[@dmasterson12]

PT looking like he has a Santa beard from the in car view

[@geluix69]

Rallied FWD group 2 , then switched to RWD. Will never go back FWD understeer and constant torque steer. Its not a coincidence that all great sports cars are RWD.

[@samdoesthefunstuff7122]

I love the touge style battles!!!!!

[@jakeyfpv]

I really wish Honda would just build a awd high performance car. Just try it out . Just to see how it goes . They have the crv, pilot and few other cars (I think).I know they are capable putting that suv awd into to a car. Awesome video btw! You guys are dope.

[@turbo18eg]

S2000 ate the CTRs lunch. CTR could only catch up when dave ran into traffic!

[@k20dude41]

s2000 is not stock, even got a cage :)

[@danmassey83]

Makes me miss my S2000 😫 such a good car!

[@Ejiokpa16]

Definitely showed the differences between fwd and rwd when on the track. Both are awesome cars.

[@gsheverything_2716]

Both are brothers, one is a legend and other is a legend to be.

[@moonstarproductions9597]

that camera car is fast!!!

[@Buzz-Entertainment]

Sounds like a bike though ;)

[@SympathyRS]

I think it’s the ZO6

[@Fuzion180]

Yeah it's the corvette, you can see it in the mirrors. It just reels them both in lol that straightline power

[@stevepham8443]

@@Fuzion180 You can even hear the vette let off and feather it a bit a few times lol.

[@garage_nostalgia]

A video on track handling characteristics of ff, fr, rr, mr, and awd compared to one another would awesome

[@NippyMoto]

I haven't even watched the video but I'd rather have the S2000

[@unfairsanic5089]

Race them to canyon and s2000 will win

[@pFbSpecV]

You guys make my car list grow bigger and bigger!! I wish my channel was montized to help lol

[@Mrunkown2000]

Great video, I know the s2k is a great car but feel the CTR is being driven to its full potential like the s2k was!

[@onefastcyclist]

VTEC's scream with pure delight! Supercharge the S2000 and the rematch would be a joy to watch!

[@G.Bfit.93]

Would be a massacre poor Civic would be obliterated haha

[@edwardk6764]

I liked the comp between these 2 particular cars. Try driving against someone like Keiichi Tsuchiya in the same cars and he will show you what anything with VTec can actually do. That would be a 1nce in a lifetime exp ...

[@robertmontgomery7158]

Why the left turn signal just before exiting track at 6:29???

[@sergcool]

The camera car in the back seems to be keeping up with ease, not even trying.

[@cooleye8887]

Pfft its better if that type r has the stock wheels, would've perform better and you wont have that understeer issues. Stock type r actually oversteer but can be controlled easily. I just took my fk8 to canyon cruising and the crazy twisty roads just baptized it lol. It was sooo fun, handled the twisties like nothing. Btw I love both cars.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

interesting video I'd go FK8 for street S2000 for the track imo the tighter corners+ short straights were more to the S2000's advantage

[@Savorychicken41]

It would be interesting to see the s2000 with a supercharger.

[@BitcoinTo150K]

This you guys should kraftswerk it eventually and compare lap times to the best modern sports cars

[@dustinmcgovney7684]

Chris Smith meh, car would retain better balance with the HKS supercharger.

[@TheBb6prelude]

T Ly it would also be interesting seeing the civic with chassis mods and suspension work along with a tune.

[@altimatic2183]

It would decimate all

[@dustinmcgovney7684]

One in the video is tuned with some chassis mods soooo lol

[@TonysTechAndCars]

Great vid guys but i cant help but wonder if the same would have happened with a stock civic. It really doesn't look like that civic is set up well

[@Rideout5]

the vette chase car seemed to need to short shift to not rear end you guys;) damn v8's

[@longhoa1301]

I would like to see the s2k with a kraftwerks supercharger. Nice video!

[@DarkCloud983]

from monday to thursday : Civic friday saturday sunday: S2000

[@KPad87]

Do a kraftwerks kit s2k vs ctr

[@bige7186]

K P bruh that’s what I’m sayinnngggg😒 they laggin it

[@JohnnyTY]

awesome video love both cars....

[@melsialiaj]

One thing nobody is mentioning. How do you launch a FK8 Type R off the line on good surface? The wheel hop is terrible in this vehicle. Any solutions to eliminate it?

[@nathanielbarbeau4821]

This does not help my current predicament. To sell my S2K for a Type R or not to sell...🧐?

[@adriancasas7396]

Im having the same debate with myself :(

[@nathanielbarbeau4821]

adrian casas I have decided that until Honda offers it in yellow then I’ll be keeping my car. Maybe 2021 model year.

[@Julenissa]

Camera drag car just chillin behind, barely touching the gas. :D

[@99Lezard99]

Sounded like a 37 Liter v8 with 4000hp tho. No suprise there

[@TheBb6prelude]

Julenissa I mean it is a stock civic

[@lb9gta307]

Looks like they used NV's vette

[@NeonDude20]

Came here to point out the same thing. Could hear them short shifting lol

[@FronkG]

its the c6 z06

[@kleefton]

The reason why it was so close in a straight line is that you were starting the Civic in first gear. If you put it in second gear, from a roll it would not spin as much and would pull away from the S2k right away. Surprising how much quicker the S2k is in the corners though. The CTR is supposed to be no slouch there either.

[@leslie7872]

you guys should have extra camera for pedal and the tach. PLS LIKE HOT VERSIONS

[@Chambers805]

Did the fk8 still have stock front and rear sway bars? I would imagine with the front removed and a stiffer rear it would corner alot better. Should test that theory.

[@johnmar1622]

good racing , i reckon with turbo cars you need use taller gear on s bends to avoid excessive torque steer..because you know that in straight line you will catch up easy. I reckon type r still win over lap times.

[@ericxueAAA]

You guys need to switch the cars then test again, or use a single driver to test both two cars for avoiding bias

[@alexnaranjo3299]

I’d be curious to see if the mods k-tuned made helped or hurt the Civic type R? Maybe a stock vs. modded CTR video?? :D

[@THEALKYL]

Man, the Civic would be a dream of a daily.

[@TheInfectedWreck]

So much love for Titan7 wheels!

[@99Lezard99]

I dont know about these tires tho....but hey sponsored. Id go for an ad08r instead. Still capable in the Rain but better in the dry and good for occasional trackdays. Also i would have expected the Civic to be quicker. But i guess thats also a question of suspension setup and tires. Ive heard the Civic has a very good diff to pull it out of corners. Maybe earlier on the throttle against the feeling. Like an evo with ayc. When you feel the evo understeer, give it gas and it pulls itself out of the corner. But i dont know. Havent driven either an evo or the new Type R.

[@wagjkproduction755]

who added Chinese subtitles? Big props!!

[@ryanmcfarland1900]

Why put a downpipe and exhaust on a Type R without a tune? Also, why put worse tires on than stock?

[@as-ovietechonda6101]

Nice run guys..

[@Jtbg80]

Would love to see a rematch but this time with a Type R using the Hondadata TC

[@BlackSaiyan_]

It’s sad really people hate on the new Honda’s just to say In 20 years from now they don’t make them like those Honda’s love it’s Honda love they are still going strong cants wait for the future. Hope a new s2000 comes with a turbo cause I’ll scoop that up like I scooped the 2018 Hatchback up

[@ngekseng]

J's s2000 wasnt the touge badass winner for a reason

[@thegame8791]

Is it just me or at 8:50 did he grind 2nd in the CTR

[@juhsztn]

crazy how no one talks about the underrated fact that the s2000 is a front mid engined car, it’s like a manual AMG GT coupe but with significantly less power

[@roadrailn]

I’d like to see this matchup as both completely stock

[@franciscocruz6726]

Starting to see the video now... without knowing what mods each car has, my money is on the S2000.

[@ionlybluffAA]

s2k been lowkey my favourite car of all time.

[@troycheron]

no mention that the s2k is for sale? so noble :P

[@k23turbo80]

I don't think it's that hard to call since the S2000 is down on power compared to the CTR, I think with equal power the S2000 would just walk away

[@carlmeaux3518]

The s2000 also had a lot more work into it. I want to see how they compare like to like. Not lowering springs vs a track prepped suspension.

[@jamesmedina2062]

I thought the S2000 did walk away. The little drag race wasn't even part of the track race.

[@klemenjeram]

@@carlmeaux3518 Brakes, Coilovers, wider tires, splitter, and spoiler.....thats about it :) roll cage makes it even heavier. As for the civic as far as i see has tyres wheels, brakes, exhaust and tune, he already has big wing on the back and some kind of splitter as oem. Seems a fair comparion to me :) ......i own s2000 and my dream for next car is the FK8 :D

[@carlmeaux3518]

@@klemenjeram "Brakes, Coilovers, wider tires" So the biggest three things that can make the most difference. The areo is moot, they are not hitting speeds at make maximum effect from them. Give the Type R fully adjustable coilovers, a track alignment and some track pads then call it a comparison.

[@klemenjeram]

@@carlmeaux3518 👌 you my friend are not wrong. I would love to se fk8 upgraded and rematch. But still for a 18year old car it held pretty damn good, even did better in corners.

[@bandwagon240]

The C6 chase car seemed...understressed.