Civilization V: How is the Latin? Latin in Video Games. Penultimate Stress Rule EXPLAINED

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@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
See my review of the Latin in Civilization VI! kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4OxgmZ5eq2mgtU ⚔️ TRAJAN And Interview with the Legionary in LATIN: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2O4fa2GisiUrrc 🤓
@apollomars1678
@apollomars1678 3 жыл бұрын
i would like to point out, that in some cases the roman had foreign words from the etruscian in their language, like the most famous word, populus and these words kinda destroy most vocal theories. the differences of spelling of the vocals in lating and our expectation of latin could be simply mixed in actual use and thereby random. like the use of verdura or verdure. Sg/Pl, but most italians would use both variants in the same sentence. italian ci/ce gi/ge sounds could be from the normal latin or just an italian intonation of the actual senat-principates latin. we dont have clear gramatical rules for the major population and the italian is quite transformed for the ear. (adding h, if the gi/ci rules wont work in konjugations etc.) i liked the idea, that the populus of roma spoke with amodern romanic dialect of latin, while the patrician language of the senat remained to be more semi-greek and etruscian for old times sake. they had to learn greek as rich patrician with education. they would use these terms and it would have influenced their practial use of laguage.
@malvulable4351
@malvulable4351 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen any of those bardcore music videos on youtube? There are a couple of them singing in classical Latin.
@theodoravonwied5441
@theodoravonwied5441 3 жыл бұрын
Great job! He sounds exactly as I, a German, would sound when trying to speak classical latin without paying 100% attention to being correct.
@PedroBoteon
@PedroBoteon 3 жыл бұрын
"don't forget Romenian" *cries in the forgotten portuguese*
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Awww I love Portuguese ♥️ 🇵🇹 🇧🇷
@voszvaivaldtkoszikovokh6418
@voszvaivaldtkoszikovokh6418 3 жыл бұрын
awwww broo XDD
@mikewilliams6025
@mikewilliams6025 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, amigo. It's the best one.
@flak509
@flak509 3 жыл бұрын
I understand nothing of Portuguese but it sounds very elegant
@sephikong8323
@sephikong8323 3 жыл бұрын
If you think Portuguese is forgotten, wait until you hear about Occitan (or don't,because you'll wait a long time before anyone mentions it. Granted, the language is dying really hard and even where I live I know basically no one that speaks it, there's just a few loan words used there and there and you'd have to go see elders in the hills to hear it be spoken naturally)
@gabriellawrence6598
@gabriellawrence6598 3 жыл бұрын
That one dislike is from the German guy who dubbed Augustus.
@PewPewPlasmagun
@PewPewPlasmagun 3 жыл бұрын
Nein nein nein!!!
@sericarose1828
@sericarose1828 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@TheOutsidersLiberty
@TheOutsidersLiberty 2 жыл бұрын
Except he isn't German but French Canadian.
@mahatmaniggandhi2898
@mahatmaniggandhi2898 2 жыл бұрын
@@PewPewPlasmagun FEGELEIN!! FEGELEIN!! FEGELEIN!!
@crusaderACR
@crusaderACR Жыл бұрын
@@TheOutsidersLiberty His dominant language must be English then, because those aspirations are very marked. We don't do that in any Romance. Ever. Sounds alien.
@Alexeiyeah
@Alexeiyeah 3 жыл бұрын
Civ VI has both Latin speaking (Trajan the Optimus Princeps), classical greek (Gorgo, Pericles and Alexander) and byzantine greek (Basil II). It would be pretty fun you analyze them, especially the latin and see where they improved!
@pestylenz7344
@pestylenz7344 3 жыл бұрын
It would be absolutely perfect on the Trajan's voicelines, if they had made him spoke in post-classical latin, as it was spoken at his time (systematisation of the subjunctive, less infinitive proposition...)
@fishcakes5626
@fishcakes5626 3 жыл бұрын
@@pestylenz7344 Refresh me; what’s Trajan’s voice actor speaking in civ VI?
@pestylenz7344
@pestylenz7344 3 жыл бұрын
@@fishcakes5626 I've just check, he speaks classical latin with a classical pronunciation even though, from what i've heard the intonation is a bit off.
@zydler1189
@zydler1189 3 жыл бұрын
Trajan is an italian actor: Gianmarco Ceconi
@Theuomr
@Theuomr 3 жыл бұрын
Does he analyze Greek as well? I thought he was a Latin expert...
@carltomacruz9138
@carltomacruz9138 3 жыл бұрын
Luke, you should review the Greek leaders in the game too!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
I shall!
@K.R.U.G.E.R._
@K.R.U.G.E.R._ 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke also review civil vi Pericles, Gorgo, Basil II and Trajan. That would be really cool
@CesarAugustoRocabadoVillegas
@CesarAugustoRocabadoVillegas 3 жыл бұрын
You mean Alejandro Magno?
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Coming out today!
@martinmeindl9748
@martinmeindl9748 3 жыл бұрын
As a German who was taught Latin in school I felt quite called out by that imitation :D
@magicmulder
@magicmulder 2 жыл бұрын
You're lucky if you were already taught Scientific Pronunciation. I still learned the predecessor during my high school years (1981-1990) where "Caesar" was like "Käsar", and my father (who went to school in the 1930s) was even taught its precedessor where "Caesar" is like "Zäsar".
@elenna_alexia
@elenna_alexia 3 жыл бұрын
At least with Latin they gave it a decent try, unlike what they did with for ancient Egyptian rulers for example that speak in Arabic. Even modern Coptic would be more accurate, cause at least that's a descendant of the ancient Egyptian language.
@philippenachtergal6077
@philippenachtergal6077 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they changed leader after recording. I doubt it but they could have intended to go for Nasser.
@user-ge4uk9ui8y
@user-ge4uk9ui8y 3 жыл бұрын
Arabic and Egyptian are similar enough
@notimportant221
@notimportant221 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ge4uk9ui8y They're both afroasiatic languages, but they've been seperate for like, ten thousand years.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 3 жыл бұрын
@@notimportant221 That's a gross exaggeration: more like five thousand years (counting backward from now), at most.
@katolato9953
@katolato9953 3 жыл бұрын
@@DieFlabbergast 5000 years counting backwards from now, the pyramids were build; at this point, they were already seperate languages and quite different from each other. Anything above 10.000 years doesn't seem that far fetched.
@Bunnokazooie
@Bunnokazooie 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a senior in High School taking AP Latin, Civ 5 was pretty much the only form of spoken Classical Latin "input" that existed at the time (besides Passion of the Christ). Now you are providing an abundance of spoken Latin input and it's awesome!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Yeah it's a crazy new world we live in.
@erickr404
@erickr404 3 жыл бұрын
About the heavy aspiration in "certō", I always interpreted that as he chuckling in the beginning of the word, something that causes us Romance language speakers to sound like aspirating certain consonants!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! If it were only this word, I'd say the same.
@empyrionin
@empyrionin 3 жыл бұрын
In fact a little bit of aspiration on this is tolerable since later on these consonants became ç or tç by means of an intermediary step (probably an aspiration). I believe this was akin to "ae" pronounced "e" by some speakers. I would be fine with that, moreso than the overall Italian accent. But then again, I might be biased, being Romanian.
@shekharaakula6233
@shekharaakula6233 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Augustus insults so majestically in this game
@andreeablack6027
@andreeablack6027 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning Romanian. We studied Latin in highschool, although I believe we followed the Ecclesiastical pronounciation as opposed to Classical. Our teacher was (still is) very intelligent and held the language in high regard, but us kids just couldn't find the motivation to study a dead language. Regardless, we speakers of Romance languages definitely have an unfair advantage over the rest when it comes to pronunciation! ;)
@brunofons
@brunofons 3 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about Latin in Assasin's Creed Origins, there is a surprising amount of Latin . You can find some videos of it here in the youtube.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@elvenatheart982
@elvenatheart982 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@ClaudioGrecoPhD
@ClaudioGrecoPhD 3 жыл бұрын
There's also the Greek in AC: Odyssey that could be interesting.
@crow666ification
@crow666ification 3 жыл бұрын
@@ClaudioGrecoPhD the egyptians in the game talk coptic egyptian ? or a reconstructed demotic?
@thkarape
@thkarape 3 жыл бұрын
@@ClaudioGrecoPhD It's standard modern Greek with one Doric word (μάτηρ) thrown in.
@guidojansen6720
@guidojansen6720 3 жыл бұрын
It's very astounding that I, as a German, didn't knew about the aspirated consonants until some time ago. It's definitely not part of school's curriculum. It's just something you naturally learn as a kid, but are not aware of in any way.
@alfredthegreatkingofwessex6838
@alfredthegreatkingofwessex6838 3 жыл бұрын
I must be an antepenultimate syllable because all the stress falls on me
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
😄
@assistabladerunner
@assistabladerunner 3 жыл бұрын
that was a good one lol
@michelle-vd8nd
@michelle-vd8nd 3 жыл бұрын
I'm holding out for a latin version of Parappa the rapper
@yurisoares2596
@yurisoares2596 3 жыл бұрын
In the family that is the romance language, Romanian is like that baby that got kidnapped and everyone thought was dead
@testtube70
@testtube70 3 жыл бұрын
Fallout: New Vegas has an entire faction speaking bits Latin, would love to see a breakdown of that.
@yuuta6563
@yuuta6563 3 жыл бұрын
but there it's almost nothing, and it's always with an heavy english accent.
@mr.notsonice
@mr.notsonice 3 жыл бұрын
@@yuuta6563 hey at least they say vale correctly but with a very heavy english accent
@yuuta6563
@yuuta6563 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.notsonice yep
@PwnZombie
@PwnZombie 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny, because the Legion speaking Latin incorrectly is kinda accurate: they’re just larpers trying to revive a long dead Empire/Language, of which they know nearly nothing of the traditions/pronounciation.
@adolfgaming1761
@adolfgaming1761 3 жыл бұрын
Ave, True to Caesar
@XMarkxyz
@XMarkxyz 3 жыл бұрын
Being italian is amazing how many stresses I get right simply because most of the time the stress falls in the same syllable as in Italian therefore it sounds very natural to me
@toffonardi7037
@toffonardi7037 3 жыл бұрын
yeah but the accent in the video game seems like super mario, some foreigners that think that that is italian accent (which is not)
@edoboss101
@edoboss101 3 жыл бұрын
Civ VI has both Latin (Trajan) and Greek (classical for Gorgo, Pericles and Alexander and medieval for Basil II), you should check it out!
@nfo1776
@nfo1776 3 жыл бұрын
Luke, there's a game called Influent that is an attempt at using CI in a game. It'd be interesting to get your perspective on it.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Oh really? Do you have a link?
@adrianmg7359
@adrianmg7359 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke It's on Steam.
@decem_sagittae
@decem_sagittae 3 жыл бұрын
Someone buy him games so he can review them.
@nfo1776
@nfo1776 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke I've tried posting a link, but it doesn't show up. As someone else said, it can be found on Steam.
@DanielDem87
@DanielDem87 3 жыл бұрын
As an Armenian who also speaks an Iranian language I recognize so many words in Latin. Just "Du es" " (you are) being exactly the same in both standard Armenian and Latin is so cool.
@bilbohob7179
@bilbohob7179 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but the pronoum in Latin and almost romance languages is TU
@DanielDem87
@DanielDem87 3 жыл бұрын
@@bilbohob7179 Sorry, but some Armenian dialects use Tu and also many Iranian languages and dialects too. Tu and Du are ofc very very different, holy shit.
@DanielDem87
@DanielDem87 3 жыл бұрын
@@bilbohob7179 What is a pronoum?
@LEO_M1
@LEO_M1 3 жыл бұрын
@@DanielDem87 “a word that can function by itself as a noun phrase and that refers either to the participants in the discourse (e.g., I, you ) or to someone or something mentioned elsewhere in the discourse (e.g., she, it, this ).” In English, the pronouns in the singular are: I - First Person You (used to be thou/þou) - Second Person He/she/it - Third Person And in the plural: We - First Person You - Second Person They - Third Person
@DanielDem87
@DanielDem87 3 жыл бұрын
@@LEO_M1 lol
@zekeigtos7240
@zekeigtos7240 3 жыл бұрын
The voice of Augustus was provided by Émile Khordoc. What little I could find about him, he is apparently a linguistics professor who speaks both Latin and Ancient Greek as well as English and French and who lives in Canada.
@vtheorem2211
@vtheorem2211 Жыл бұрын
He is my professor
@stevendv8487
@stevendv8487 3 жыл бұрын
7:00 That's so unfair. Never knew that about the R.
@vacri54
@vacri54 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like the voice actor for Augustus in Civ V was Émile Khordoc. Couldn't get a background bio with a quick googling, but apparently is a language teacher at a university level.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting! He may be French.
@XseuguhX
@XseuguhX 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke Canadian according to his LinkedIn. He apparently teaches both French and English. Weirdly enough he doesn't mention Latin, so maybe I got the wrong guy.
@louleloup2607
@louleloup2607 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke That would be strange though, we French would definitely not add inpiration to our consonants for Latin, when we don't even succeed at doing it for English :')
@Julenattstarzan
@Julenattstarzan 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke He is based in Montreal, where the game was developed, so perhaps more likely to be Quebecois. There is also this forum thread: latindiscussion.com/forum/threads/civilization-v.9723/
@Juju_the_Wizard_of_Vaz
@Juju_the_Wizard_of_Vaz Ай бұрын
He's my professor!!! I know I'm late but he's from the province of Quebec and teaches linguistics, French as a second language and English as a second language. He learned Latin in high school but he wasn't taught the stress rules of Latin. He also learned Spanish and Catalan but I don't know if he spoke those languages back then. He's a nice guy with a lot of linguistic knowledge and a good teacher as well. Hope this helps!
@DerMelodist
@DerMelodist 3 жыл бұрын
You really need to judge the Latin in Final Fantasy 7’s One Winged Angel. If you’re judging video games with Latin, that would be so interesting to watch.
@speedzero7478
@speedzero7478 3 жыл бұрын
Let's also add the intro cinema song in FF8. Also in Latin yes?
@hundvd_7
@hundvd_7 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's a great idea. Songs will always have a totally different pronunciation and tone from regular speech. The Latin in OWA checks out - as it uses fairly typical phrases. But the exact pronunciation? You can't tell. Aside from the fact that the singers (in all official versions) are probably English speakers.
@guymcaulay8996
@guymcaulay8996 3 жыл бұрын
@@hundvd_7I'm pretty sure the original vocalists for One Winged Angel are Japanese. You can hear it in how they pronounce "Sephiroth" with a sort of "ss" sound instead of "th"- characteristic of Japanese speakers, as their language does not have a "th" sound.
@hundvd_7
@hundvd_7 3 жыл бұрын
It does, but I'd assume that's a product of having to sing in a choir, rather than an accent. You can't exactly sing a θ all that well, so you have to emphasize it somehow. (This really is just speculation, though - they could totally be Japanese, too)
@hundvd_7
@hundvd_7 3 жыл бұрын
@@guymcaulay8996 Totally true, actually. Idk how I didn't notice before. _Though_ the θ -> s sound change _could_ also be just because the singers are trying to enunciate it more clearly.
@flamebird2218
@flamebird2218 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a review of Tarjan's Latin in Civ 6
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
On it!
@ogorangeduck
@ogorangeduck 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_LukeMaybe add to that Gorgo's, Pericles's, and Alexander's Greek?
@joedwyer3297
@joedwyer3297 3 жыл бұрын
Youve become my new favorite youtuber, i first saw your Roman solider video where he speaks to a German scientist, then your Ecclesiastical Latin (which i hear at mass on sundays) vs Classical Latin which i enjoyed very much as I wanted to know if they were actually the same language, then what sealed the deal to decide me to subscribe was the Scots video with the man from Aberdeen, which is where my uncle now lives, and i live in Livingston, roughly in the middle of Edinburgh and Glasgow. I found it interesting as i use some of those scottish words with my friends and family, and we always just thought it was English with Scottish slang attached. Pues no es importante, Estoy aprendiendo hablar español y creo que hablas la idioma, entonces quiero decirte: gracias, me gusta mucho tus vídios.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
¡Muchísimas gracias a ti, Joe! I’m very flattered that you liked those videos. I’m really happy to be able to share these thighs I love with others.
@bilbohob7179
@bilbohob7179 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic spanish but a liitle correction, the "tedious gender thing" you know... It is "la lengua" o "el lenguaje" o" el idioma" choose one but don't mix them... "Idioma" is masculine like another words of greek origin... Teorema, tema, drama, etc.. Could there be any exception but almost all greek words with final a are masculine in spanish
@joedwyer3297
@joedwyer3297 3 жыл бұрын
@@bilbohob7179 Ah thanks very much man, i know the default stance on words which end with "a" is that they are feminine, but i have come across many exceptions and you've helped me with another one which i appreciate
@toffonardi7037
@toffonardi7037 3 жыл бұрын
Think that in Italy where a good portion of high school students study latin for 5 years (me included) they teach ONLY ECCLESIASTICAL pronounciation. I didn't even know that the classical existed!
@stevenv6463
@stevenv6463 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you drilling the penultimate stress syllable rule. I have been reading a lot of Latin out loud and I am never sure where to stress. This helps me develop my phonetic awareness.
@tepan
@tepan 3 жыл бұрын
"Ja, genau!" :D
@acomathes
@acomathes 3 жыл бұрын
When will the game and movie industries start to ask YOU for pronouncing Latin & Greek? I mean it has to happen any time soon.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Let them know! I am available to be hired for this kind of work. 😃
@DenisPereira
@DenisPereira 3 жыл бұрын
I am Brazilian , and some Latin sound soo familiar and I can "understand" the context of the conversation or even some phrases, soo many latin still in my mother language is crazy like Amicus = Amigos , Gratus = Grato , Si tu es = se voce é (tu can be used as a regional variation), perfectus =perfeito , its sooo cool how latin travel the time
@iberius9937
@iberius9937 3 жыл бұрын
Get Scorpio Martianus and Metatron to voice Latin-speaking characters in a video game!
@jamesestrella5911
@jamesestrella5911 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, with a smattering or German and Japanese, accent and actual words.
@KnitterX
@KnitterX 3 жыл бұрын
As a German, I found your impression of a German speaking Latin spot on. It sounded even more authentic than the actual German man you used for reference. :D
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Danke! 🤓
@PewPewPlasmagun
@PewPewPlasmagun 3 жыл бұрын
Ever since I found out and became aware of the aspiration of the Germanic plosives p, t and k respectively, I, a native High German speaker, have taken great pains aspirating said consonants with no fail in my speech. It feels quite adequate and brings me joy.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, please review Alexander's spoken Ancient Greek in Civ V. Civ V>Civ VI also had to say it.
@donniedewitt9878
@donniedewitt9878 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see more of this
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
More soon!
@Pedro-ds3cq
@Pedro-ds3cq 3 жыл бұрын
As a Brazilian linguist who is learning Latin I am enjoying your videos a lot
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Obrigado!
@devin8656
@devin8656 3 жыл бұрын
This video was incredibly helpful as well as entertaining! I've been having a bit of trouble with figuring out which syllable to stress as I attempt to learn (proper) classical Latin speech. Until now my stresses have been more or less random. (A bad habit I'm trying to break.) Now when I listen to your LLPSI recitation the stresses make a lot more sense.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad!
@micheleferretto7079
@micheleferretto7079 3 жыл бұрын
As an avid CIV fan I loved this video very much. As an Italian I always noticed in these CIV videos that "Th" sounds that sound very linguistically germanic to our ears. The voice actor is doing a quite decent job, but that "Th" is there, although it is not as strong as you can unfortunately hear in many opera singers that murder the italian opera pronunciation (how many times you can hear "Venthhhhhho" instead of "Vento"). Anyway thanks again Luke, you always do a really good job, I appreciate you're not in a hurry in your videos and you take all the time needed for the explanation to be clear.
@skullkssounds1938
@skullkssounds1938 3 жыл бұрын
That moment when you realise 2010 is 11 years ago... Mater mea
@thinking-ape6483
@thinking-ape6483 3 жыл бұрын
Einfach das Werk der Götter...
@TheCutL
@TheCutL 3 жыл бұрын
At 4:22, you gave me the hardest flashback to Latin lessons back in school ever, dear Lucius. :D
@ayesha36
@ayesha36 3 жыл бұрын
I've recently started at a German university and your impression is impeccable for how some of my classmates pronounce their Latin... It makes me feel a tiny, tiny bit better about my aspiration and intonation as an English speaker.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Danke!
@craighughes536
@craighughes536 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review Luke…knowing where the stress/tone goes in words helps with my learning Latin and similarly Greek..🙏 gracias..optima Amico
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, Craig!
@gefitrop3496
@gefitrop3496 3 жыл бұрын
Your ability to pronounce so many things is amazing
@joaoespecial4168
@joaoespecial4168 3 жыл бұрын
Augustus never took the (military) title of Emperator, outside of a military context. He was Pinceps. The First of the Senate.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
This is correct. Metatron has a great video about this
@JamesVorosmarti
@JamesVorosmarti 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Ranieri!!! You taught me at Moravian Academy Middle School. I cant believe just seeing this now
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
James! The Vorosmartis were always the best students! Awesome to hear from you. How are you doing? I have a ton of videos on this channel and my other ScorpioMartianus
@JamesVorosmarti
@JamesVorosmarti 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke Thank you for the kind words! I'm doing well, I quickly looked at your videos and I'll definitely watch some more .. I must say, even the few years of Latin I took back then have helped me roughly understand all of the romance languages. Thanks you teaching us! How have you been? it seems like you been busy building these channels!
@brandonsalcedo4142
@brandonsalcedo4142 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, as a big fan of Civilization, I would enjoy seeing another!
@Ben-jv2ll
@Ben-jv2ll 3 жыл бұрын
So glad this showed up in my recommended. Great video all the way around, looking forward to binging the rest!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@talkcommonsense
@talkcommonsense 3 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful Luke!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@hensenstratovdiehard231
@hensenstratovdiehard231 3 жыл бұрын
Замечательная разборка!!! Теперь я лучше понимаю ударения в латыни. Всех благ!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad! )) Thanks
@hensenstratovdiehard231
@hensenstratovdiehard231 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke )
@IgorS.
@IgorS. 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really excited! Great video, Luke. Praise to you!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@tamaraspijker7840
@tamaraspijker7840 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! One of the first to another great video! Keep up the good work! :)
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much, Tamara!
@andreaskallstrom9031
@andreaskallstrom9031 3 жыл бұрын
Favorite Latin teacher with a game I love! Amazing!
@iain349
@iain349 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, i actually wondered the other day if you were the one who did the voice for this one!! You guys have similar sounding voices.
@louayghanjati5056
@louayghanjati5056 3 жыл бұрын
I came across this video which tackles two fascinating matters for me : Civilization V and Latin. Well done Sir, I've subscribed instantly.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@brunopereira6789
@brunopereira6789 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you review the Latin in games!
@decem_sagittae
@decem_sagittae 3 жыл бұрын
Strong video. I guess the Latin in Civ is acceptable at least when compared to other games. Most are atrocious. Tbh they should just use you to voice Latin-speaking characters in video games.
@brycesenonais
@brycesenonais 3 жыл бұрын
Omg this brings back memories of me using Augustus’ lines on my highschool latin papers 💀 good thing they weren’t oral projects 😌
@Spenny66
@Spenny66 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, had often wondered about the Latin spoken in video games. Another game I've been curious about is For Honor, many of the knights characters speak latin when attacking or performing executions.
@jhd1111
@jhd1111 Жыл бұрын
I studied Latin for four years with the same thick Latin textbook and the same teacher. She insisted that we pronounce the V as a W and so I was always confused when I heard the V sound. Thank you for the clarification.
@jakubkuberski448
@jakubkuberski448 3 жыл бұрын
Augustus's voice actor is Émile Khordoc - a Canadian from Quebec. So you were on spot saying it has some English sound to it, possibly maybe even a French sound
@corsaircaruso471
@corsaircaruso471 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we’d love to see more reviews of video game Latin!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
You’ll get it!
@dentescare
@dentescare 3 жыл бұрын
Even though my latin professor in the university didn't teach us how to accentuate, i think the rules are quite intuitively for a Spanish speaker. Habeas is a very common word i've always heard bc "habeas corpus" being an legal term in Spanish and i've noticed that lawyers tried to accentuate their fancy terminology well
@lorefox201
@lorefox201 3 жыл бұрын
i get what you say about aspiration, but remember that Catullus himself in Carmina 84 gives us a pretty solid idea of when and how aspiration is appropriate or inappropriate by means of trolling his friend Arrius for his Etruscan accent. As a Tuscan myself I can testify that to this day we do strange things with phonology.
@ganapatikamesh
@ganapatikamesh 3 жыл бұрын
Neat! I love this! I hadn’t thought about how accurate the languages sounded before in Civilization V and Civilization VI games, but now I’m definitely curious!!!!
@ryanmurray7443
@ryanmurray7443 3 жыл бұрын
It would definitely be cool to see more analysis of Civ 5 and Civ 6.
@Asteptillustration89
@Asteptillustration89 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent lesson! On the knowledge of penultimate and antepenultimate vowels in Latin! I want to see more in the future!😄
@nicolaselsishans5665
@nicolaselsishans5665 3 жыл бұрын
What fun! Just like Latin classes in Germany! Luke, you are so right!
@KnicksBasketball96
@KnicksBasketball96 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest I’m still waiting for the next barabarians-esque show
@Maynard0504
@Maynard0504 3 жыл бұрын
4:21 lmaooo you nailed it. gut gemacht!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Danke!
@hocke375
@hocke375 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this. I would love to see more videos of the sort.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
You'll get them
@hocke375
@hocke375 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke I can't wait :D
@sergioacevedo2254
@sergioacevedo2254 Жыл бұрын
The Civilization V scenario: Fall of Rome, is what got me so interested in history years ago.
3 жыл бұрын
Bonjour ! Great video about a great video game ! (don't know this version actually, just played that game 25 years ago in the 1st version : no Latin, no voices at that time, just text ! 😅)
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Merci, Lionel!
@tamara3984
@tamara3984 3 жыл бұрын
My mum played that one too. That's cleared that up. I got so confused (I'm not a gamer)
3 жыл бұрын
@@tamara3984 I'm not a gamer neither, but I was quite addict to some games around the age of 20 : Sim City, Civilization, Age of empires, and L'Empereur (impersonating Napoléon Bonaparte !)
@robjj4769
@robjj4769 3 жыл бұрын
Buona sera Luke. Meraviglioso video. Ho visto il tuo viaggio in macchina a colloquiare in latino circa il ruolo di professori e studenti se non ho capito male 😅 VERY AMAZING. Good evening Luke. Nice video. I saw the videos in which, in the car, you talked in Latin about the role of professors and the relationship with students, if I understand correctly. Wonderful
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Grazie mille! Sì, Alexius Cosanus è una persona meravigliosa; il suo canale è eccezionale.
@xGoodOldSmurfehx
@xGoodOldSmurfehx 3 жыл бұрын
for a game franchise thats supposed to be all about history, it does get alot of details wrong im glad someone finally put this question to rest for me as i long had suspicions that they got quite a lot of stuff wrong after i noticed some wrong things in a department closer to my expertise
@cluesagi
@cluesagi 3 жыл бұрын
"Non potes esse gravis!" I'd guess it was supposed to be "You can't be serious", and they just looked up 'serious' in an English-Latin dictionary and saw gravis (i.e. grave or serious situation)
@heiwaboke
@heiwaboke 3 жыл бұрын
Wow Luke the analysis in the video was great and really informative thanks!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you liked it!
@brandonsonmor2069
@brandonsonmor2069 3 жыл бұрын
You spoke of the syncopation of the 'e' vowel in a word like 'illice.' I was just curious when that would have occurred? Would we still find the vowel in early Latin like Plautus or Terence? (great video btw!)
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It’s essentially home by 2cBC
@danielmacgregor6245
@danielmacgregor6245 3 жыл бұрын
Necesse est tibi de Civ VI loqui! Every time I hear Trajan's opening line I try to figure out whether one of the words that should be accusative is either A. not accusative or B. pronounced with a nasalized -a the way you would suggest except that I can't detect the nasalization.
@oravlaful
@oravlaful Жыл бұрын
amazing to see that the first syllable stressed version of cerebrum looks and sounds almost exactly the same in modern portuguese
@domonicsdaniel4497
@domonicsdaniel4497 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! Yes, I would absolutely LOVE to see more such reviwes from you! maybe try the greek spoken by the Greeks in Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, or the Latin spoken by the Roman soldiers in Assassin's Creed: Origins. AC have always prided itself in its historical accuracy (which cannot be denied in some aspects of the game), but let's see how well thay've got it when it comes to speaking ancient languages :D
@itemtest1
@itemtest1 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was perfect Latin. I had no idea. Thank you for details :)😊😉👍
@FloydRinehart
@FloydRinehart 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. Thanks!
@JKTCGMV13
@JKTCGMV13 3 жыл бұрын
I love this game. Glad to see you analyze it!
@VerbalCoffee
@VerbalCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, more! Thank you!
@ozanshijin8094
@ozanshijin8094 3 жыл бұрын
You must make civ 6 traian speech :)
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@ozanshijin8094
@ozanshijin8094 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke and if its possibile alexander the great speech pls 😚
@Fummy007
@Fummy007 3 жыл бұрын
Salve viator!
@jamier65551
@jamier65551 3 жыл бұрын
You should definitely do the civ6 versions, since I hear in general their languages across the board are more accurate.
@crsmith6226
@crsmith6226 3 жыл бұрын
You should look at some of the Latin translations of Disney songs, the one for “Let it Go” is surprisingly good sounding musically but I’m not sure how good the Latin is
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
I've done most of them: kzbin.info/aero/PLU1WuLg45SiyoKYbbV5HS1pRFPimS_A6T
@crsmith6226
@crsmith6226 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke awesome! I didn’t know that :) I see a severe lack of Frozen tho :P
@Papafarmerbex
@Papafarmerbex 3 жыл бұрын
Hi , thanks for great videos you made at your Chanel , I would suggest to make a video about the Carl Orff musics in Latin the famous Carmina Burana , it would be amazing 👍🏻
@Michail_Chatziasemidis
@Michail_Chatziasemidis 3 жыл бұрын
Was that truly a review of Latin in a game? Or maybe a great chance to explain the Latin stress rule? Either way, I loved it! I wish you review more of Latin in video games. How about Battle for Wesnoth?
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ll do it
@tomkot
@tomkot 3 жыл бұрын
Do Civilization VI next! :)
@globaldigitaldirectsubsidi4493
@globaldigitaldirectsubsidi4493 3 жыл бұрын
Civilization V did not just get the latin much better than VI but is also the much better game. In fact probably one of the best games with infinite replayability.
@odinlordofasgard9748
@odinlordofasgard9748 3 жыл бұрын
This was fun !!! I can´t wait to see more of this. Valete.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
More to come! Thanks for watching and sharing
@PodcastItaliano
@PodcastItaliano 3 жыл бұрын
They should hire you instead! Great video, as always :)
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Sarebbe bello!
@zanedurante3709
@zanedurante3709 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I know they also speak Latin in civ 6 and I’m curious if they got it better in the next game?
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
I review it tomorrow. Thanks for subscribing
@SHINYFUNGAMES
@SHINYFUNGAMES 3 жыл бұрын
You seem like such a great guy. Very smart and love sharing this with others
@svensvenforkedbeard170
@svensvenforkedbeard170 3 жыл бұрын
More Latin reviews please, and if you can chuck some ancient greek reviews in to that would be much appreciated. Gratias tibi
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
More are on the way!
@orlandomiotto7545
@orlandomiotto7545 3 жыл бұрын
civilization V definitely sparked my interest for languages I didn't even know existed!
@whateverweather1535
@whateverweather1535 3 жыл бұрын
civilization 6 has Rome as one of the civilizations to play aswell, it would be great if you made a video on Latin there. (theres also ancient Greece, represented by 2 different leaders)
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
I'll do it!
@whateverweather1535
@whateverweather1535 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke amazing! love you Luke!
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