CJ Alexander Indicted on 23 Charges for Record Buck - What's Next? | Hunters Advantage Podcast

In today's episode, Christian Babcock, Jake Gaylord & Payton Carroll discuss the latest news on the 23 charges filed against CJ Alexander for his record book buck.
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[@iBleedStarsAndBars]

When i was younger i traveled a lot further than 25 miles when rutting😂

[@stephencanter8947]

So a few things here... An indictment means that evidence has been presented to a grand jury to charge a defendant accordingly. So there is some form of evidence for each charge he was given. This is typical. It's common law enforcement practice to charge someone with as much as you can because ultimately when it gets heard in court as part of a Plea deal half the charges will get dismissed. This is done to make it seem like it's a good deal for the defendant and they are cutting him a break to plea guilty. It's basically an incentive for the defendant to plea guilty to save the courts time. I would guess CJ would take a no contest or Alford plea so he can "maintain his innocence". CJ won't do jail or prison time for this....he may get probation with suspended license and have a huge fine/restitution to pay. If he can't pay it or just refuses to pay it then ultimately they will put a civil judgment against him. Dude can't even afford batteries in smoke detectors from his last podcast with you guys lol. And the reason CJ went on podcasts after knowing he killed this deer illegally is one reason only.....attention. he wanted his 5 minute of fame. True definition of a narcissist.

[@Bucky5068]

Sounds optimistic but I think they are gonna hammer him

[@stephencanter8947]

@Bucky5068 looks like they are trying to hammer him, and I hope they do, but I know how the game is played. He won't do any jail or prison time for this. They will definitely suspend his hunting license. He may never get to hunt in Ohio ever again - but will he follow that? Lol. People with suspended drivers licenses still drive all the time.

[@samgardner4667]

They may let him out of jail time. But that was a $30,000 deer. Plus any other fines, boys working for free for life

[@Oregon-airguns]

I always leave my phone at home, especially when hunting. That’s not all that strange. What Might be strange, Is I quit taking photos In like 2018. Realized I don’t do this for attention, I do it because I love it. Probably hard to believe but I have multiple record book animals that have never got Their photos taken.

[@josephr1198]

To clarify, he did not spotlight and kill a deer he just spotlighted one. The hunting without a license charges were for a different buck (a 8pt 150" deer) and different hunts he had done previously. He probably had a license when he shot the 18pt 244" deer, but did not have permission to hunt on the property where he took the deer, then tried to cover that part up.

[@02Crimson]

In most states, a flashlight turned on leaving the stand is hunting with a light. Even if the gun is unloaded and ammo in back pack. Game Wardens are notorious for piling on charges when they catch a poacher.

[@jeffolsen25]

@@02Crimson what are the names of these "most states". Every state I have hunted in.. which is many.. allows a hunter to enter and exit the woods w/ use of a light so long as weapon is unloaded, bow or xbow have no arrows or bolts nocked. Never heard of this violation and curious which states. That's like walking in or out of the woods and getting dinged for hunting before or after hours.

[@samgardner4667]

Dude couldn’t afford a weapon to hunt, you think he had deer tags? He’s probably stupid enough to keep an untagged 8 pointer laying around though. Seems to be a pattern. Probably that douche strap neck beard cutting off his oxygen

[@02Crimson]

​@@jeffolsen25 it is in the alabama hunters education course test. you should leave before a flashlight is needed and told that surrounding states have the same rule. it is a way to tack on charges just like an empty feeder with no corn, no battery and the spinner removed they still look for a sliver of old corn and would write a citation for bait (although now here legal with extra permit paid for)

[@americanagothic7851]

A lot of people asked for this, so thanks for delivering 👍

[@71chevelle34]

One of his buddies told to get out of this mess.

[@alecnabors2508]

The girlfriend is the only one not being charged 🙄

[@stephencanter8947]

I think someone definitely snitched about it too. This whole investigation wasn't started by the Ohio DNR, just based on things not adding up from his story.

[@samgardner4667]

Yep. One (or both) of the brothers flipped when charges started coming

[@TOPGUNMPD08]

Dude sealed his own fate. You going to break the law, which I dont condone, keep the yap shut. He talked his dumb ass into the indictment. You could tell he was untruthful as he was stumbling through his story. Play stupid games and you win stupid prizes.

[@christophermiller9125]

Yall are not tools, you let your 15-year-old dog hang out on the couch .You're all right with me brothers!!!👍👍

[@HUNTERSADVANTAGE]

❤️

[@patrickosier3644]

Not having your phone doesnt mean anything. I leave my phone in the truck so im not distracted while in the saddle

[@boknows2188]

Why would anyone call he government when they legally shoot something. This has gotten out of hand

[@wvcoonhunter9566]

Honestly if you put him on trial with a jury of hunters he’s gonna be guilty even if he’s killed the buck legal.. cause the jealousy in the hunting world is crazy!! This will be a tuff case. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.. They was a case here in wv where the wardens set a guy up an took his deer that he killed legally An he had to take them back to court to just get his deer back so you gotta keep all these things in mind so it will be fun to see how this goes.. great video guys keep them coming An keep following this for the rest of us to see

[@JoshMiller-ju4ov]

Sad but that’s 💯 right

[@critter852004]

The whole I forgot my phone thing doesn’t fly. He has 4 kids, no parent would hunt without it or continue on hunting without it. But, he also has meth teeth and doesn’t work. Sometimes you can judge a book by its cover.

[@Sadderday112]

This is the dumbest comment on here lol

[@critter852004]

@@Sadderday112 Almost as dumb as poaching.

[@Wtz-jx3wh]

A good parent wouldn’t do that yes but doesn’t meant all parents do the right thing lol

[@americanagothic7851]

What did people do all those decades before cell phones? All bad parents?

[@ericwolbert3256]

And sometimes you can’t judge book by it cover! The older I get the more and more I learned this! Also it not the right thing to do!

[@jamey1e]

The real story will be confessed, one of them will squeal to avoid charges!

[@matthewboettcher1932]

If it’s a jury, they do not need to know about deer. The evidence will have to speak for itself. There has to be substantial evidence for it to have made it through a grand jury.

[@blowgrass]

Sorry, sir, but a Gran Jury indictment is much easier to obtain. A grand jury only sees evidence from the prosecutor also the grand jury is able to see evidence that will not be able to be used at trial.

[@bankerlies6121]

That's not true at all,a defendant has no say so in a grand jury.None

[@matthewboettcher1932]

@@bankerlies6121 what’s not true?

[@blowgrass]

@@bankerlies6121 yeah exactly a grand jury only gets to see the prosecution side of this case to make their indictment. That’s why they’re so easy to get. It seems wrong to indict somebody on only half the case don’t get me wrong if this guy is guilty then he should be punished accordingly, but it seems like everybody’s already gotten convicted before he sets foot in a courtroom and that isn’t the way it is in this country you are innocent until proven. Guilty prosecution hasnt proven anything yet

[@matthewboettcher1932]

What you’re suggesting is called court. Both sides present what they have. That’s not grand jury. Grand jury just decides if there is enough evidence to move forward with the charges. It’s really not hard to grasp. So obviously there is enough to charge him. Grand jury is not as easy as you say.

[@jasonsuratt6913]

I have left my phone at home a few times while hunting. My gut tells me something maybe off but without slam dunk evidence he’s not guilty in my book

[@samgardner4667]

There’s 23 charges against him and 8 against 3 other people. That tells me one or both brothers flipped on him to ODNR

[@wallstreetbets9814]

You stupid dumb ass. He didn't even have a license or tag!

[@RyanL88827]

No hate and I’m sure everyone is racing to get podcast out, but you guys really coulda spent a couple hours studying and had a lot better podcast. Google, a 15min conversation with an Ohio attorney, reading thru and understanding the indictment. This was more of a water cooler conversation. Sorry fellas

[@Bowhunter163]

Agreed.

[@mattdalton8037]

Yeah, they should have at least read the indictment. It goes back a couple years of charges and even includes the 150 inch buck he shot last year is also allegedly poached.

[@Sadderday112]

Whole thing was absolutely cringe nothing but speculation and accusatory

[@darwinswarey5076]

Yeah, this is pretty bad.

[@HUNTERSADVANTAGE]

Understand where you’re coming from. We should have prepared more to bring more value to this conversation and to listeners. It is well noted. Appreciate the feedback and thanks for listening 💪

[@trevegray9615]

I think the cell phone evidence, is what's gonna get him convicted. Did he really forget his phone, or did he just not take any pics at the kill site that the odnr claims the deer was shot. Even if you didn't, you and your buddys phones would be pingy off of towers in the proximity of the kill site. Also if your buddys snapped a pic, at the real kill site, those pics will have coordinates on them where that phone was at, at the time of the photo.

[@rackmaster4]

He did it and I thought so from the beginning. They really need to make an example of him. I had heard he's done this before!!

[@KAlaskan-dn8fl]

I totally agree he's a fn liar and there's no jealousy here crazy shit.

[@alecnabors2508]

He's been caught doing it before

[@Wtz-jx3wh]

Did you guys even read the indictment?

[@buckydoedowner9040]

CJ likes his bucks like he likes his eggs...

[@schillbilly6530]

Sunny side up?

[@85Bow]

Easy

[@buckydoedowner9040]

Poached, you weirdos.Never heard of poached eggs? lol

[@schillbilly6530]

@@buckydoedowner9040 scrambled?

[@teammainbeamoutdoors]

The no hunting license is in reference to the 150" 8 point he poached the prior January on the same property where he killed the large buck. the indictment in full can be read online, it is public record. I read it all this morning. There are also charges on stealing sd cards from cell cams. $10k for sale of the rack, $2k from North American Whitetail for a cover story, and $8k from Mar-vo minerals to use the pic to promote Lucky Buck minerals(all tied to the theft by deception charges)

[@michaelbushey2787]

I thought he went and poached that 8 point after the big one got seized. ??

[@Bowhunter163]

I wish they would have read the actual indictment before the video. Lots of really clarifying info in the indictment.

[@chrisgiller2050]

Innocent tale provin guilty. . I how u get accused of a crime . And let people talk shit and distory your life . And u didn't do it . Morion this is what is rone with American. U forgot the constitution asshole.

[@josephr1198]

​@michaelbushey2787 no, the smaller buck was shot first, in Januray of 23, the big buck was shot in November of 23

[@132byrdman]

OL CJ be poaching for along time. Figure he would put together a better lie on this one.

[@user-qo9px9wy1h]

How did you guys think he was a good genuine guy from the first podcast? The douchyness and lying was oozing from him on the first podcast. Probably noticed it easily because I was a high school teacher for 30 years lol!

[@Qbynordi]

Spencer is a good example of how most of us are. If we are available we are responding, and if we are not...we try to get someone who is.

[@jameshibbard1097]

The big thing about a criminal jury trial in the US, the jury is instructed to deliver a verdict "beyond a reasonable doubt". Reasonable doubt is a big hurdle to get over without some serious evidence. But with that said, they can subpoena cell phone records, and can tell exactly where his phone was when the deer was killed. Also his buddies phones.

[@kylemartinson722]

A grand jury looked at evidence a d decided enough to charge him.

[@darwinswarey5076]

I would've never even considered calling a game warden after shooting a trophy buck.

[@joelkeever1506]

What are your thoughts tho? You guys talked to him.

[@wardad5628]

If he really did forget his phone, which does happen, that is horrible luck given this situation. But wouldn't you, immediately after killing the deer have someone bring you your phone or have a friend come take pictures at the harvest location, thus containing metadata?

[@Sadderday112]

Left my phone in the car on several hunts! Phones aren't that important to most people

[@drshea21]

Yea and when u kill a deer of a lifetime u still keep it in the car cmon bud

[@Sadderday112]

@@drshea21 some people don't feel the need to brag about the size of deer they kill. Not saying he didn't poach it but I think they are reaching with the phone thing

[@drshea21]

It’s not bragging to snap a picture of your deer with your phone

[@Sadderday112]

@@drshea21 Fair! Again not sticking up for the guy. I just think the no phone thing is more common than what they believe.

[@daddysbrokegarage]

I also have 4 kids and my wife yells at me regularly to have my phone on me... If im at work i have it. Other than that its wishful thinking that i find it again by work monday morning because i never have it wjth me otherwise

[@1972davidt]

Yall should’ve talked about how the DA was butt hurt and supposedly was hunting for the same deer. And has all the state resources available and is trying his best to make an example out of CJ.

[@glennfarley8550]

Truth!

[@ericwolbert3256]

That’s complete bull crap I forgot my phone two or three times this year hunting and it’s been dead Several times I don’t really have the money to buy a new phone.

[@patrickosier3644]

I agree I've been intentionally leaving my phone so I'm not busted looking at my phone

[@melvinavis8070]

Best deer call out there

[@joshwills3997]

95% of the time leave my phone in the house because I can NEVER remember to turn off the vibrate 😂

[@robertfmccarthy2360]

He’s going down, one of the two friends or sister will sing! Plus these days a phone is a GPS tracker. He left the phone knowing this. But they probably have him or the friend going to that spot several times before the kill. And once they charge the other two. I don’t feel bad, he keeps going on social media likes it’s a joke.

[@samgardner4667]

I’m betting one or both brothers already flipped. That’s how ODNR got the phone they’re still facing 8 charges each, but I bet they’ll squeal

[@kylemartinson722]

Grand jury is high % before indictment

[@blowgrass]

If they have all this evidence why didn’t they charge this guy in the normal way? Prosecutors usually Take the grand jury method because it takes much less evidence to get a grand jury indictment.

[@travisshuttleworth630]

I might be misreading your comment, but they did go to grand jury. In Ohio, you can't get indicted until it gets presented to a grand jury

[@joellape6494]

The 150” 8 pointer was killed before the 18 pointer. He shot the 150” on January 7, 2023.

[@stevefulscher8531]

the hunting without permission charges will be for hunting where he actually killed the deer, the hunting without license could be for the deer he killed last year

[@DavidBowCrazyBabyak86]

The process takes typically 9 months to a year with no postponements and all that shit. But if CJ's guilty he's going to postpone it as many times as he can which is three I believe to try and get things pushed under and forgot about and people just tired of it. But it all depends on what he spends on a lawyer or if he has a public defender and what that evidence shows and they have

[@scootter37]

Looking like CJ watched too many Charles Beaty interviews. The indictment is pretty damning.

[@bricehale6593]

Ohio is FULL of poaching junkies I don't know to many guys that work hard hunting for a deer but I know a boat load of guys that poach

[@mr.skeptical3071]

John Eaberhart never takes his phone!

[@ec9697]

Seems cj’s biggest problem is the he continues to post stuff on social media

[@coltonhurley2525]

What he don't understand is hes just making it worse for himself..... Or he just just dont care

[@bradcornelison7380]

He should be able to post things.

[@bradcornelison7380]

He watch it guys you just said that the deer could have been taken legally your making it out to the public that he’s guilty. Damn it guys listen to your damn podcast. Wow who needs enemy’s with friends like you!

[@bradcornelison7380]

They might be human but they swore a oath he did not

[@bradcornelison7380]

@@coltonhurley2525He knows he is innocent and in his head there is no way he can be found guilty of something he did not do. Isn’t that what our justice system allows for. See everyone has forgotten what our fore fathers died to give us ,freedom to have rights.

[@everythingoutdoors-vl9bl]

There gona threaten his 2 friends and they gona spill the beans to save their own ass

[@DocAllen424]

The prosecution is surely throwing the book at everyone in hopes someone with snitch or flip.

[@bowlingmotorsportsbowling5990]

I’d never let it be known if I were do such a thing. He talked to much if this is what happened.

[@samgardner4667]

Of course he did. That’s a six figure rack if it’s legal. That’s a new double wide

[@jaydraines8007]

It's honestly sad that so many are looking a whitetail deer "from a financial standpoint".

[@Kurtdog63]

I remember hearing about a deer that was killed in Kentucky before social media that was being talked about in amazement. If I understood the story right the deer scored around 140. What was incredible about it was it was a SIX POINTER. It was checked in during archery season as a bow kill. Rumors started flying that it had actually been poached during the archery season with a pistol. Never heard any more about it. Regarding this CJ deer, if this deer was killed 10 miles from the property CJ claimed to have killed it on, how did he even know where it was 10 miles away to kill it? I have seen a buck chasing a doe across a large bean field half a mile wide and easily cross the field in less than a minute. Also, a person can walk a mile in 20 minutes. 10 miles for a buck chasing a doe would be nothing really. Friend killed a 150 class that ran 8 trail cameras on his property. Never got a single trail cam picture of it all season, yet it showed up and got killed on his farm. He kept meticulous records of trail cam photos of all the bucks on his property and had them all named. When his son showed up to help him get it out, they are looking at each other like, uh, we don't know this deer, yet here it lays. They named their unknown buck as a "bonus buck".

[@joshuaraines7600]

Lee Ellis's big drop tine buck from this last season traveled 7 miles over night stayed 2 days then came back to where he originally had the 1st pictures then killed it. I have never poached anything in my life, and I have forgotten my phone my release my backpack more than once. All of the evidence is circumstantial.

[@jarrettsmith-ek6pw]

Rifle tags aren't a thing in Ohio.

[@samgardner4667]

That’s good. He didn’t have a rifle. He was using a borrowed crossbow.

[@KyleCall3034]

No it’s guilty until proven innocent !!

[@jacobharing]

I can see not having the phone. Ive forgotten and lost mine. He did have a hunting license, they are assuming he killed it before he bought the license. Its the basic throw as much as you can at him to see what sticks. If he did do it shame on him but i think its very likely that he is innocent. The jealousy alone in the hunting world is the biggest problem.

[@nevrslo1556]

Somebody will snitch if it's what the state claims , I'm sure they are offering plea deals

[@CatfishCody]

If only the Bowmars got as much hate as the broke poachers

[@bradcornelison7380]

I guess my theory is like this. When I go deer hunting I don’t carry my phone, who goes out as a the general population knowing what they will have an option to shoot. No one. At best a lot of people are using game camera. However as anyone knows you could have a mature buck on a certain property everyday, at the same time then it disappears until after hunting season or the next season. Also to be truthful they may not be seen on a camera for 2 years. Ten miles is very much within the bucks territory and regardless what the curly haired dummy says, people can not walk 100 miles in a night, but a deer can easily go 10 miles in a night, easily! Remember he took the officer to the place they hunted offered to show the the carcass. This is fucking stupid tell me what proof is there to even having opened a case. Literally who would make the deer public especially to the folks he took it public to.If you do something like this even an ignorant person would not make it public. They don’t have anything but circumstantial evidence. I would fight this tooth and nail. They are trying to scare him into taking a plea deal. To justify their time. Hey curly this is what teaches people to actually have to do pictures and call dnr, because evidently American has gotten to the point where your guilty until you prove your innocence. There is no evidence to show anything, what evidence they claim to have is what they are reading into it. Look I went to college for criminal justice but never worked as a cop. The fact is a lot of our cops these days are trying to revenge for 13 or more years of being a damn puss and getting his ass pushed, or bullied in school. They have a power trip problem because they think the law is backing them, not really the case.this is why innocent people get shot and die. I like you guys mostly you two that did the podcast with CJ, ole curly there is awfully opinionated for someone that hasn’t been put in the same position. Plus the one thing no one has even stated is everyone has a different personality, there are those people, I’m one of them that does not document everything. And I have had a cellphone for probably longer than you’ve been alive. Come on the hunters need your backing so that the police don’t think they can do this to everyone they need to do their job, until he’s proven guilty you should be saying the law must prove it to me! Why should CJ have to prove he did everything he did was right. It’s their job to prove he did wrong.I really wish I was on your podcast, cause someone needs to stand with the people. The reason they can’t name names is they swore an oath to not set people up he did not swear an oath.

[@zacharyfelkel7924]

As someone who has been falsely accused of taking a buck I didn’t even shoot I completely understand how CJ is feeling, if he didn’t in fact do it. Also I feel like as a hunting community there are way to many jealous assholes out there and there will be a day where people who are talking shit now will be doing the same thing just to hunt and get meat in the freezer. Just remember, karma is a bitch and you will get yours. I don’t think poaching should be a federal charge at all and in all honesty I think it’s unconstitutional. However, if you do get caught then I believe there should be lots of community service hours helping park rangers on public grounds to help better our hunting areas. This makes way more sense than stealing someone’s hunting rights. Laws that are unconstitutional do not apply to me or anyone born in this country legally. I think that we should all be sharing properties for hunting and sharing information with each other about every deer we have and maybe someone wants to shoot something on your property and you have one on theirs. We all as hunters should strive to do better and work with each other, not beat each other down. Because if this continues, I personally will strive to have all hunting banned permanently. So tread lightly because if you continue to bash other hunters, it will be very easy to make sure nobody has a chance at doing it legally.

[@shawnlewis6544]

1 typically white tail?

[@terrymccleery3497]

CJ tells the story so straight and so convincing that we will have to see what evidence prosecution actually has. Only a couple things I’ve ever questioned in his story but not much.

[@joshwills3997]

Tbh I don't know enough to say if he did or didn't do it BUT I do hunt 95% of the time without my phone (stay on my 1 acre) but i also dont hunt for horns, pretty much the only deer i pass comes with potatoes and gravy 😂

[@clintonmosby2417]

Ya in ohio should have heard of the poaching case of a buck outta adams county buck name (big boy) gross net was close to 220" from 2009 /2010 guy outta ky poached it an obviously got caught

[@yrdGBA]

they could go back and ping CJs phone and see everywhere he was, his story sounds sketchy at best

[@MichiganPublic]

Funny thing is the dnr didn’t know anything till he went on these podcasts. But the viewers (me any way) smelled fishiness. Without examining evidence.

[@132byrdman]

CJ Poach was lying through his dang teeth about the whole story. I have all ideas he will be proven guilty and yet he still will lie about it.

[@glennl9630]

Sooo it goes 10 miles in OH with know trail of pictures😂😂😂

[@osagemannn]

To the guy drinking a beer, that's, very un becoming. you can start to see as the pod cast was going, he was getting a buzz... Now about the deer, I sure hope he didn't do it. I think there is A LOTTTT of jealousy on the part of the property owner that the deer was suppose to live on. From what has been said in the past, how would it be possible for CJ to shoot the deer on that property and get it out of there without getting caught!!!.

[@HUNTERSADVANTAGE]

First off, we appreciate you giving us a watch BUT a guy having a conversation with a beer… crazy how that makes someone unbecoming. That was the 1 and only beer of the night if that helps your look on the situation.

[@PickNarks]

you cant double with split aces, you get one card each ;)

[@mikenorris2736]

If he did not have a tag then it was poached

[@Dark30Outdoors]

To get a grand jury indictment some evidence had to be presented! Also, I’d say it’s a good bet his buddies sing like canaries to get themselves out of trouble or a lesser penalty! CJ is toast!

[@travisshuttleworth630]

Its pretty obvious that one of his buddies or his sister is telling the truth to the detectives because thats the only way they would know that the permission was signed after he killed the deer. Theres literally no way to prove that unless someone is talking. Also, he didnt even have a license last year so you think getting his license revoked is going to keep him from hunting in the future!?

[@BludauTX]

Are y’all doing a podcast on the alleged crimes and investigation by federal game wardens over The Element KZbinrs content that was shared by the MeatEater youtube channel? That content was forcefully removed from the MeatEater platform in 72hrs. Must have been for a reason! Let’s hear it

[@HUNTERSADVANTAGE]

Im not aware of this one.

[@josephr1198]

Please tell, was this about the Pig they shot and only took the backstrap?

[@BludauTX]

@@josephr1198 No, not at all. Honestly, I’ve left a many of hogs lay- so I don’t know what you’re talking about? I’m certainly not defending them by saying that. Just no clue what you’re referring to. I’m referring to a MeatEater video they provided that was removed from the platform due to aforementioned investigation. Is the hog content you referred to on MeatEater platform?

[@josephr1198]

@BludauTX I haven't watched meateater in awhile, I just know they upset people because someone (I think it was The Elemnent) shot a hog and only took the backstraps, which kind of goes against MeatEaters whole platform of conservation and cooking what you kill.

[@BludauTX]

@@HUNTERSADVANTAGEgood answer. I know you’re buddies with them. I don’t expect you to cover it.

[@mmafreaks4871]

i dont see how that deers value is 35k. they sale good tags for less.

[@dannyatkinson3744]

Is it true he killed an 150 inch 8 pointer after killing the giant? Two bucks in the same season.

[@RyanL88827]

No. That report had the wrong year. He shot it the season before the big one

[@dannyatkinson3744]

@@RyanL88827 thank you

[@jeremycavaretta1035]

You don’t need to know about deer behavior to be on the jury because everyone’s cellphone data is going to show where they all were, who called who at what time and what the texted each other 😉

[@randistrunk2116]

It kinda seems that you guys are on the fence as to if he actually did what the charges are saying. From the beginning of this story there were red flags that needed to be looked into I'm not saying he is guilty but I'm also not saying he is innocent this has been an ongoing investigation that was probably thoroughly looked at

[@user-me3my7cr8u]

This kid needs some time in jail and never be able to hunt again.

[@headoftheholler4053]

We live and hunt in Ohio for 45 years and if they want you they dam sure gonna get you 😢

[@ricks2123]

Maybe the deer did the traveling in increments.😮

[@huffordjoyce2227]

Grand jury indited .

[@diy7594]

I can't for the life of me see him going on these podcasts and tell all about the deer if he poached the buck that doesn't make any sense to me

[@jameswest859]

Yall sound like 3 little girls

[@jasonlarsen5739]

😂

[@buckydoedowner9040]

$30,000+ Will be given a certain amount of time to pay it off or will result in contempt of court.

[@coltonhurley2525]

Hes already said if he got fined over it he wasnt paying them in the last podcast

[@buckydoedowner9040]

@@coltonhurley2525 Oh he will, lol

[@coltonhurley2525]

@@buckydoedowner9040 lol i know he said in the last video he did hed rather go to jail than pay the fines

[@buckydoedowner9040]

@@coltonhurley2525 They thing is, both will happen.. esp if he dont pay.

[@buckydoedowner9040]

@@coltonhurley2525 They can take his house.. truck.. they will get their money one way or another..sooner or later.

[@glennfarley8550]

The half *!% preparation and the willingness to skip right over due process or even to look up due process to at least know what it is has me questioning everything that y'all discuss. That socks because I generally enjoy y'all's podcast...

[@HUNTERSADVANTAGE]

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[@02Crimson]

I'd like to know 1. what did they take off his cell phone? If he made calls/text then I get it if they used some form of tracking from an app then I think that is self incrimination and should not be allowed in prosecution. 2. i don't think you should need written permission from your siblings. that's over kill 3. his sister must have been heavily involved otherwise I don't see her being complicit. all hunters have taken an animal and then pictures elsewhere. 4. hunting with a light? how'd game warden know this if he was not there when the kill was made? might go back to point number 1.

[@michaelfreund9681]

They charged him because his buddy rolled over and plea bargained. Bet

[@mr.skeptical3071]

I think he is innocent! He literally called the warden and showed him where he was at. There was still blood there!

[@maxiebordeauxjr9529]

CJ is a narcissist and a psychopath rapped in one package.

[@jonlybonly9843]

Star city whitetails sponsors and stands by this man and all poachers

[@user-nx4bf4qd2b]

It’s for the jury to decide. Everyone is different in the aspect of how they view their trophy. You are innocent until proven guilty. That is how it is supposed to be in this country. Jurys have been known to go after individuals to simply make examples. A huge example is the way a jury is treating a past president to this day. If someone in the government was hunting this deer and is jealous now because of the kill, who is to say how far they will take this if they have the ability. Just the way the indictment itself is worded is sketchy. They are saying he is guilty before trial which is unconstitutional. If you guys ever kill a 200” deer there will be those who don’t believe you killed it legally. Just imagine if you pissed the wrong person off. Deer have been proven to travel large distances over and over, so I feel like you may not know as much about whitetails as you believe. I personally have seen the same deer 8 miles a way, 2 days apart in southeast Missouri in farm country. I’m not saying he hasn’t done other illegal things but it’s not for us to judge.

[@megangregneace4684]

They won’t waste the money on a jury… some paid off judge will make the decision on it. He’s screwed at this point I’d say. Shame either way.

[@midwesternoutdoorsandnatur8272]

Sometimes ya go looking for fame and find it! Sad example for the kids. The podcasts interview I seen just had so much that was off, most could get a read real quick and see the truth about what was going on.

[@longrangecrypto380]

Innocent until proven guilty...

[@jonlybonly9843]

Star city whitetails sponsors and supports this man and all poachers

[@drshea21]

What about the money he was paid for the deer and rights to the deer

[@josephr1198]

He supposedly gave that all back.

[@coreyhallman3134]

TOLD YOU!!!!!

[@graesonoliver9224]

Why do they care so much about a deer it would have died anyway at some point

[@americanagothic7851]

To be fair, I have a loving wife, 3 children and two dogs. I don’t like to take my phone hunting or scouting. But CJ is lying.

[@longrangeredneck1335]

For your families sake always take your phone , guy i let hunt my farm broke his leg 400 yards from his truck and if he didnt have his phone it coulda been terrible , also what if your kid has an emergency i hate having it on me but shit happens

[@americanagothic7851]

@@longrangeredneck1335 did my wife send you? Jk, your absolutely right!

[@RayFinkle05]

How many podcasts did this guy go on? And now he’s saying he’ll tell the real story on his own platform? HAHAHAHAHAH

[@josephr1198]

He should write a book, "If I did it: confessions of a poacher"

[@RayFinkle05]

@@josephr1198 Hack joke.

[@josephr1198]

​@@RayFinkle05 ok Einhorn

[@Ditch19Hunter]

I had to eat crow!

[@ryanpalmer8925]

Terrible for hunting. Who would want to shoot a world class deer anymore? Legal or not a bunch of assholes have nothing better to do than sit around and gossip. This is absolutely ridiculous and is doing nothing for hunting. Might as well be watching jerry springer

[@user-qo9px9wy1h]

Podcasts are terrible for hunting, Facebook is terrible for hunting The internet is terrible for hunting. Everyone is out for likes and clicks. Nobody wants to put in the work or have pride. What do we think provokes these guys to do shit like this?

[@glennl9630]

He had the whole trailer park help

[@shawnlewis6544]

He is a bow hunter

[@samgardner4667]

Most poachers are. Cant hear a bowstring.

[@Lonebowhunter]

I wish all paoching charges got this must attention than maybe idiots would quit poaching , however I'm a believer on innocent until proven guilty , and indictments don't mean your guilty However if he is I hope they fine the heck out of him and some jail time!

[@Meh-hr7gq]

Free CJ!!!!!