Clarifying Lifts for Armwrestling Strength Standards

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[@wristwrestling]

Dude, you are a treasure to this community.

[@sexypeople8036]

You should have a video talking about the different ways to hook! Loving the videos!

[@banksfit5302]

Thanks for the work involved in standards & showing correct technique. Just started training proper (1 year of 1x per week table time). I'm from a Powerlifting background so absolutely love this!

[@sambamstewart]

This is an outstanding video!

[@zacharycollierAW-PL]

Very helpful, thank you.

[@Mr1988wk]

Might try all these next week. Good group of excercises. And easy to track

[@johnhawes2262]

Great vid!

[@ckalel5890]

Can I suggest a detailed video on ideal hand placement (gripping low on opponent's thumb, versus high, having the 'meat' of you thumb closer to the beginning of their fingers versus deep into the palm, etc) for toproll vs hook?

[@Seahawks1976]

Awesome video!

[@jakecollins8666]

Chris! You kicked my ass in Kentucky on the left arm. I’ll get ya back one day! Great video.

[@sasknox]

Love ya content mate.

[@ArmwrestlingTrainingCh]

very clear, good one

[@UnApologeticPatriot]

Great content brother. I had a question for you though. Since the locked pronation and backpressure lifts were in essence the same... would it be acceptable when checking both in the same day to just do the locked pronation until that fails and then switch over to the back pressure lift to get the maxxes on both? Or do you feel there is enough of a difference that they should be two separate lifting sessions?

[@wearedisturbed]

Super video

[@termixx9139]

Guys, make sure your pulley is stable before trying the back pressure lift. Just smashed my nose cuz mine wasnt stable, Armwrestling is dangerous guys!

[@flossordie2256]

This is going to be important

[@turbobore9849]

Hi Chris, thank you for the video - it's very useful to have these exercises demonstrated. When you do the riser lift, does your riser have to stay intact just on the way up?

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

Well if it drops a bit but you can still lift it then it’s probably fine but if it drops noticeably you won’t be able to lift at all.

[@turbobore9849]

@@ChrisDrummondAW Thanks for the reply - I didn't word my question very well. I meant on the downward portion of the whole lift. For some reason my riser stays intact on the upward part of the lift but when I'm lowering the weight back to the floor my riser starts to dip. Perhaps I'm just mentally easing off after a successful lift?

[@UnApologeticPatriot]

@@turbobore9849 You could be mentally easing off or your riser is strong enough for the lift but doesn't have much endurance to keep the weight up.

[@shakya00]

Thank you for this video ! I don't have the specific handles and pulley systems, are there similar lifts with belts and free weights like for the first three lifts ? Is using a bag with handles (handles similar to belts) that you put as one in your hand, change anything from just lifting with one handle ? Thank you in advance if you or someone else reply to my questions.

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

I don’t know how a guy can do side pressure with any accuracy using free weights. As for handles, PVC pipe is cheap and available pretty much everywhere, anybody can make a wrist wrench for next to nothing. There are plenty if exercises for containment that don’t require a pulley or special handle but the weights won’t match up so it’s pointless to compare to this chart.

[@shakya00]

@@ChrisDrummondAW Oh okay, I will see for the wrist wrench, it seems very accessible to make. Thank you very much for the helpful reply !

[@Bartz147]

I Tried all of these I’m an amateur never compete only train,result: Rise left 27kg right 31kg Back pres left 42kg Right 46kg Lock pronation left 36 right 43 Side pressure left 30 right 35 Mazurenko left 32 right 38.5

[@fikirkolesi4819]

So good.Keep going bro whats ur bw? And how long u training? And how its goning on now?

[@levansaginashviliskidney8726]

Strong as an ox

[@Bartz147]

I'm not strong as an ox ahahah I'm 191cm 102 kg Today results Rise left 28 right 32.5 Lock pronation left 41 right 47 Back pressure left 49 right 53 Side pressure same of 5 months ahi Mazurenko fingers same of 5 months ago

[@levansaginashviliskidney8726]

@@Bartz147 I don't think you understand how impressive those numbers are. I would be overjoyed to have 40 back pressure

[@Bartz147]

@@levansaginashviliskidney8726 but if you see the standards that chris posted i'm only a novice.

[@Ninja4Parkour]

What size for the Mazurenko eccentric handle? I have the ArmSport eccentric handle - are they the same handles overall or is one easier/harder?

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

They're pretty much the same thing. Use whichever one fits your hand the best.

[@PooF-All]

Anyway I could get a hold of you for questions or anything in pertains to training arm wrestling?

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

My email is on my channel, we can talk there.

[@eureka5701]

Hey sorry question. I'd like to know what those hooks youre stacking plates on are called. Like, the metal rod thing you put the plates on and then attach the hook, then the belt?

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

loading pin

[@TriggeredGains]

Would you count the Devon-style pronation lift off the ground as a locked pronation lift? Or does it have to be with the pulley?

[@thered28]

he would, he mentioned that you can do it with free weight and a supported elbow, and devon supports his elbow on his inner thigh usually so same concept

[@Xayc__]

How do you think wristmax handle and Mazurenko eccentric handle compares? Is difficulty close enough?

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

Wristmax is harder.

[@readrun542]

What are the numbers of each lift to aim for as a guideline... Novice, Intermediate, Pro? Great content

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

It's linked in the description, this video is demonstrating the lifts on that sheet.

[@readrun542]

Thank you. I didnt see it 😄

[@Xliter]

Chris why does the setup for backpressure at a lower angle, and not directly at hand hight.

[@thered28]

im not sure but possibly to target your elbow flexion more rather than your riser, the higher the angel the more it'll target your hand since the straps applied there

[@amradelark]

hey am one of those weirdos who my pronation is stronger than my back pressure so is it okay to wrap a judo belt around my body and arm to eliminate the back pressure and test my pronation just to know where it's at or does it affect how much the pronation can handle i tried it and got 73 kg pronation mind u my back pressure is roughly around the 40 kg mark so a bit skeptical

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

You got 73kg pronation? I have to see this, I can’t believe it.

[@amradelark]

@@ChrisDrummondAW i have a vid can i email it to you ?

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

@@amradelark sure. Note, though, you’re saying you have the backpressure of an amateur but pronation as strong as Devon Larratt. If you can legitimately turn 73kg you should be able to hit a can opener on world-level heavyweights.

[@amradelark]

@@ChrisDrummondAW that's why am extremely skeptical on that lift tbh

[@sinpoeanarconna2974]

How much can you cup in when doing the Pronation lift?

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

There’s no rule about that but straight is most accurate.

[@d3fragg3d]

What is the name of the belt you are using in the first lift? I want to buy one but cant find that type.

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

Mazurenko strap. But there are plenty of other looped belts.

[@CrazyGming]

@@ChrisDrummondAW hey I had a cheap strap that broke how have your Mazurenko strap been holding up? I am contemplating buying it since I like having a small strap you can take to the gym instead of having a whole judo belt with you I still use the belt at home tho

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

@@CrazyGming the Mazurenko belts are great even with very heavy weight but you can get plenty of support from cheaper options.

[@CrazyGming]

@@ChrisDrummondAW Okay thanks for answering I just bought the Mazurenko strap because wanted something that could handle a lot of weight and still easily fit in a pocket

[@wyatt_the_armwrestler1768]

Is there a reason why the side pressure pulley is higher than your hand

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

Just because pinning is done at a downwards angle. You can have a medium height pulley and just go straight sideways too. Going from low pulley will almost always be worse.

[@robertkarkkanen6323]

You just lean back and try to keep the elbow angle on table? I did it like a curl. Maybe your is better?

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

Basically.

[@andrase435]

I just learned that I'm a weirdo. 🤔

[@nebulouscalamity6338]

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[@ChrisDrummondAW]

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[@Bartz147]

What is your national ranking? Seeing your lift you are awesome

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

14th right now. Tbf I was 13th but Daniel Price went in and beat up a bunch of top 10 guys so we all got bumped down a spot. It’s been a long time since I pulled someone in a tournament who was ranked higher than myself on the 242 list and the last one I pulled was Pavlo so. Ya know.

[@Bartz147]

@@ChrisDrummondAW thanks for replacement i did yesterday posting back pressure on riser 25.5kg x4 Posting back pressure 38 kg x7 Top roll movement no cable,full motion and i was stand up 33kg x 2 Mazurenko 38 kg only one reps and little cheating with wrist flexion Wrist wrench 6 cm side pressure 33 kg 1 rep. I never do a competition and now with your standard lift i can suppose my level 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@Joe-mp4nw]

My pronation is WAY stronger than my elbow flexor, like just about 2x stronger. Or you can say my elbow flexor is way weaker lol

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

Are you sure? A lot of people convince themselves that this is true by attempting to isolate their pronation by supporting their forearm and holding a weight like they’re doing a pronation lift but this is a totally false reflection of their pronation strength.

[@Joe-mp4nw]

@@ChrisDrummondAW ok well then it’s not 2x stronger, but it’s definitely stronger. Is that because when you’re using your bicep and pronation they’re basically fighting against each other? The main reason I know it’s stronger though is because my back pressure and pronation lift are the exact same.

[@ChrisDrummondAW]

Supporting your forearm in a static hold arrests the rotation of your forearm. If you can actually pronate the weight up from a palm-up position when your forearm is supported, that’s one thing. Even so, pronation without backpressure does you no good and backpressure without pronation also does you no good. If you lose your pronation then your arm will open all the same. So ok, your pronation lift is the same as your backpressure lift. That’s not the norm, but so what? Keep training and keep trying to eliminate weaknesses.

[@Joe-mp4nw]

@@ChrisDrummondAW Ok yeah that makes sense, thanks man. And yeah I never really train it isolated, just when I do the normal pronation lift my pronation seems to feel more solid every time but my back pressure doesn’t progress at all. I’m just gonna eat more and try to figure something out lol