Clash of the Titans: Diesel vs Gas!

[@mathewwatkins1660]

Ive got a 2017 Titan xd pro4x with the 5.6 gas. Smoothest riding truck I've owned so far. Interior is top notch also

[@mattdrives4757]

Funny that you used yellow for diesel and red for gasoline, just like you would for fuel cans haha

[@colegarthwaite5633]

Why not do a gas vs diesel Nissan XD comparison? The half ton truck isn't in the same class as the heavy duty truck.

[@xXBurntBaconXx]

I would buy the Titan XD Pro-4X. You can option it for leather seats, good mid range trim IMO.

[@tkobvious]

Glad you pointed out the difference in length of the front fenders. I'm not a fan of either front end but the XD always looked more awkward for some reason. This explains it. Haven't seen anyone else point that out!

[@ImOldGregg]

damn that 5.6 sounds the business

[@tat2titan]

Yes they do! They sound even better w/ full bolt-on's & an Up/Rev Tune!!!

[@SoundgardenMan]

Total payload disadvantage with Teddy!

[@d-tay944]

will you guys do wrath of the titans and remember the titans?

[@TFLtruck]

+D-tay94 :) we might.

[@cameronreynolds9264]

The Fast Lane Truck when will you guys do a Tahoe Z71 off-road?

[@thefrenchbaldeagle3138]

The Fast Lane Truck what about attack on titan

[@Noah_E]

My XL F250 doesn't have power folding mirrors and it can definitely be a PITA when trying to maneuver in tight quarters. You either have to get out and fold them in or hope for the best. For what new trucks cost it should be a standard feature.

[@lakeschoolrestorationchann1567]

Noah E My 250 doesn't have them either, if I randomly find a tight space I will flip the drivers mirror shut and slowly pull up letting the pass side get folded in on whatever tree/obstacle that's a tight fit. Your right though, when they start talking over 50/60k for a truck power mirrors should be included.

[@technom3598]

this channel is awesome. you guys do a great job. if you think about it motor trend... car and driver etc... don't have shit in you guys. you guys do it better. are not biased and have great production value. great job

[@chanseormon]

+The Fast Lane Truck it should've been XD Diesel and XD Gas

[@chadsteele1]

These have a lot of great tech that some of the competitors don't offer. Remote start that sets climate based off outside temp. Around view cameras not to gimmicky gadgetry to suckers buyers like go pro mounts hahaha haha competent towing capabilities locking rear diff. Thoughtful and easy to use tech. It comes down to this or the gmc for me. Price also plays in the pic

[@SDav21]

What are these kinds of trucks for? Why do Americans like them? If you have a small business and need to move things about you get a diesel van like a Sprinter or smaller Metris. If you use it as a lifestyle vehicle to tow a trailer once a year or as something to use on a farm, a small truck like a Nissan Navara, VW Amarok, Ford Ranger or Toyota Hilux should work perfectly. The new VW Amarok with the V6 diesel from the Audi Q7 and Porsche Cayenne is amazing though I don't think these small trucks are available in the USA. Surely they'd do very well because who needs such large behemoths. That Amarok V6 can tow very well, drives like an SUV and is fast.

[@dustyrusty7956]

Without a doubt FLT and FLC are the BEST VEHICLE SITES on all of KZbin. I look to you guys for my truck and car data...since I have both...cars and an F150 Lariat.

[@TFLtruck]

+Dusty Rusty Thanks for the kind words!

[@malifestro7596]

Wonderful video you guys. Lots of a good information and comparisons in such a short video. Thanks Nissan for getting these in the hands of the TFL crew.

[@cooldood1025]

"...there is something to be said about length", lol!

[@DPpl-nu6km]

What are the pro's and con's for the Nissan titan, versus the f150, Ram 1500 and Silverado/Sierra 1500. I'm a fan of ram trucks but the new look titan looks real tough too.

[@dippitydoinit]

Can you explain why diesel engines cost so much more?

[@leadnsteel]

Nissan should have offered a smaller v6 cummins in the light duty. That v8 is nice motor but it is a pig. Think it gets the same mpg as the gasser lol. Nissan also needs to make a 4 banger cummins for the Frontier truck. That would be nice.

[@lukman8400]

Hindsight - best would be the gasser XD. Andrey would become a star truck reviewer. Nathan, although a MUCH better offroad driver would review other vehicles. Congratulations to all, many channels didnt survive and you guys did well.

[@WesWilliamsonPage]

Would like to see the hill descend control in action and you gauge how well it works in comparison to the competition. Thanks for the vids!

[@David_TX]

wonder if this will open up the heavy half ton segment all over again... would be neat to see other manufacturers jump in and try to compete with the XD

[@3rdlifechronicles969]

Andrey I heard you haul an in truck camper which one? I am trying to figure out what truck to buy to put a large truck camper in that will still let me go off road with the extra cargo. what would you guys or your subscribers recommend? really like tricks better than the vans and have not found a dec3nt off road van

[@ALMX5DP]

How much does the camper weigh? Figure that out, keeping in mind other additional weight and gear you might be carrying (passenger weight too) and compare your prospective trucks' payloads and capacities to see which best fits your need. Typically if it's a large camper, and you want to still have capability to tow a trailer or haul an entire family or group, a 3/4 ton may be best (or as in this case the Titan XD), however if you dont have much else a 1/2 ton (regular Titan) may suit you just fine.

[@lakeschoolrestorationchann1567]

Considering how much they charge for these trucks I would buy a base Ford/Chevy/dodge 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck with the diesel. You have significantly more power, significantly more capability (payload, towing), etc.

[@bloodycobraharoforever9646]

Lake School Restoration Channel, I agree

[@cwyoming7004]

That 5.6 sounds awesome. How would you rate the fit and finish of these trucks vs other brands?

[@ChloeDunIT]

Great video guys! Can you please in the future cut out the background music when running the trucks? The background music makes it difficult to hear the engine(s), which is a character itself. Thanks!

[@jedironin380]

Nice comparo. Next up... Cliffhanger 2.0! Please? ;)

[@jacketprideable]

Been waiting for this review. Thanks. Why doesn't the manufacturers make more diesels? Every where else in the world has them. Ford, Toyota, ect...

[@brandonthies9590]

because its so hard to make a "clean diesel" now a days that will pass emissions. Thanks EPA

[@1FiftyOverland]

Because the EPA hates diesel.

[@chanseormon]

I’d get the Titan XD SV Regular Cab 4x4 with the Cummins Diesel V8 vs The 5.6L Gas V8

[@1FiftyOverland]

Is the 1/2 ton 2.7L ecoboost fast?

[@DavidStanleymusic]

I took a look at all the trucks bought a 2017 Frontier pro4x hands down best OEM tires . for off road.

[@nicksmith1858]

they should make a dually with the 6.7

[@txrebelredneck3961]

Nick Smith They should of done the 6.7 in this one.

[@txrebelredneck3961]

They should of done the 5.9 instead of this 5.0 v8. Would of had more torque and horsepower and would be bringing back the best engine ever made.

[@OrlandoOsuna]

I'm looking into buying a titan. I've heard negative things about the Cummins engine..can anyone advice?

[@benny2755]

does the XD have a shorter bed like the 1/2 ton

[@Icutmetal]

Big Dawgs275 So you didn’t watch the video?

[@damienmccue2793]

just now realized the front hood is like the Chevy reaper

[@reko3103]

Great video guys!

[@bobbie318]

Great job with the comparison. cheers.

[@alexespitia8449]

have you ever drive a 2017 ford 450 and a 2017 ram 3500 and a 2017 gmc sierra 3500 and a 2017 Chevrolet Silverado 3500hd up gold my hill

[@andreshates]

the Titan does have the power folding mirror option, wtf guys? mine has them.

[@matthewprevete5564]

Holy shit the gas Engine sound good

[@geosh10]

When parking my truck and cars into a garage power folding mirrors are convenient. Nissan needs to add a moonroof to the Titan, all the other brands offer a moonroof. Otherwise, the Titan (gas burner) would give the domestic brands some better competition. The Titan's gas engine should be a very dependable engine.

[@silverioarroyo5968]

The gas v8 sounds so raw.

[@mattyrs4]

The XD weighs as much as a F250 or 2500 GM but does less than either. It's like an 5/8ths ton but can't quite play with it's 3/4 ton friends.

[@mattyrs4]

So? It can do ever-so-slightly more than an F150 or Silverado 1500 yet has a weight comparable to the 250/2500 siblings. That's going to make it suffer in mileage. Since it can't compete with the bigger boys it also suffers there. What's the benefit to all that weight? It looks beefier - because it is? Seems like a big price to pay for an unnecessary aesthetic. Towing for the Titan is about 25% worse than the Ford or GM. The XD is less than 5% better. I don't know what Nissan is doing, but from a numbers perspective they're pretty lousy.

[@regsparkes6507]

I sure do miss my Frontier: if only Nissan would 'up-grade' or 'modernize' that 4.0 engine! ( I know, I know, we're talking Titan's here, I like them too,..but I still miss my 2010 Frontier.)

[@tritchie6272]

I wonder how hard it would be to add an extra 20 horses to Nissan 4 litter. And would they loose anything in the longevity department?

[@regsparkes6507]

T Ritchie, I would suggest that there would be no problem at all. Just look at the Nissan Altima with the same sized engine and 179 HP advertised. The way that automotive engineers can squeeze horses from four cylinder engines these day, makes me think that a tough and durable engine like this Nissan power plant is capable of much higher than this too, wouldn't you think?

[@tritchie6272]

Wouldn't surprise me if it could be done.It would probably draw more interest and attention to.

[@shawnriddle3018]

Get some speed over some whoops and see which engine you like best. Try some mud snow and sand. Diesel is an off road compromise. Less power more weight. Low rpm engine.

[@Began2011]

I wonder how the diesel would do pulling Kent's truck up the Ike gauntlet.

[@McCraezy]

in most cases, i say gas, just due to most diesel engines being quite a bit heavier than gas engines. It's alright if you're on solid ground, but a diesel can get you stuck in a hurry lmao

[@buddyebs1962]

You should have compared the gas and diesel XD models, then the gas XD vs gas 1/2 ton.

[@johnwesley1660]

Very good video. Thanks guys.

[@rsar61]

John Wesley not really whereis the 0-60 specs

[@randybrawley]

Put 10,000 lbs behind going uphill and see which is better. The diesel isn't designed for any of the tests you performed. The Nissan 5.6 is a good gas engine if you want to go get groceries and pick up the kids from daycare. The Cummins 5.0 is 3 times the power plant if you are using your truck as a truck.

[@s.centralkeystone558]

Hey Andre, you should get a gas Titan XD for your next truck.

[@adequatejtm7371]

How come you guys never do cliffhanger or cliffhanger 2.0 any more

[@truckingswe]

If you would get a new truck that you can choose free, but you hade to have it for 5year pay for everything like it would be your own truck and has it as your only truck in your life for 5years, Whitch truck do you choose? I think i would want the Colorado duramax z71 crewcab longbed. Cant you do a show what your all choose would be fun.

[@marathonbaker]

Want to live in the USA for 5 years any new truck should work for you. It's 15-20 years later where you wonder if you made the right decision.

[@smithjohn4491]

As time goes on the XD version and that Cummins are proving to be a disappointment. The XD is no more capable than a half ton....the other half tons can do virtually the same work, and the Titan XD can't touch even the basic 3 quarter tons for work. That, plus the price point, and the Cummins diesel sounds quiet.....but the engine and the shifting is rough and feels unrefined. If this was a full sized 1 ton with the inline 6 that would be negligable....but not a half ton or heavy halffer like this one. It's not worth the money. The regular Titan with the gasser however, is an underrated truck and is much more worth it for the money.

[@joenissan]

Smith John Tow with one. You’ll understand what a solid platform does.

[@wyattlarrick3246]

The Titan XD can probably pull 16000 lbs before issues occur, which would be the absolute max which is how Ford rates their trucks. There is no way it pulls less than the F150. Nissan just rates of like any other truck manufacturer should, a safe weight which doesn't put a maximum load on the engine. The Titan XD can definitely be in a class with the 2500s.

[@mattlisettekubacki1740]

you guys didn't really talk about how good that new Cummins diesel engine actually is

[@golforfishing]

I'm disappointed that the mpg is so bad for this cummins

[@Spahi77]

golforfishing thats why dodge went with the 3.0, and did not install the nissan cummins...if hino dropped the jo8e in a hd body...the big three is in triuble

[@wyattlarrick3246]

It's not a Nissan Cummins, it's just a Nissan Titan CD with a Cummins engine. I bet you say Dodge Cummins too.

[@kirbygoodwin7133]

Why don't you try it in 2WD? Pretty much anything with 4WD will go up that when it's dry

[@jasonford6317]

Question: The 1500 Series trucks are considered 1/2 Ton Trucks including the F-150s. Would Compact and Midsized Trucks be regarded as 1/4 Ton? Lets say the Honda Ridgeline or Chevy Colorado or GMC Canyon? The Nissan Frontier or The Toyota Tacoma are sometimes considered 1/2 ton Trucks though they are notably smaller? Can you elucidate some of these classifications?

[@ALMX5DP]

There really isnt a classification other than those smaller trucks being considered "midsize". I've never heard of Frontiers or Tacomas being called 1/2 tons, they are definitely midsize and are even a bit smaller than the Colorado/Canyon/Ridgeline. But IMHO the 1/2 ton 3/4 ton designations is pretty outdated and only cause confusion. Better to look up specs on payload, towing capacity, GVWR and GCWR to get an idea if a particular truck is right for you.

[@alainsaumier2881]

I would of liked to see you guys do xd diesel against xd gas!

[@jimmym5262]

I don't understand how it's a knock that it doesn't have power mirrors. How lazy can one be. Just use your hands. It's not hard. Probably keeps the price down by keeping it manual vs electric. But anyhow those titans do look good though. Personally I'd go gas total S model. But that's me.

[@davva360]

Power folding mirrors can be useful in a wide vehicle. There have been occasions where I have had to stop to go through a gap and it would be more convenient to be able to fold them without getting out to walk around to the passenger side of the vehicle. I would agree its not a deal breaker though.

[@txrebelredneck3961]

Nissan was smart to go with the Cummins. They were dumb to tell Cummins to make a v8 instead of sticking with the traditional straight 6. Especially with the low HP.

[@Spahi77]

guy proulx I don't see Nissan sales numbers being heavy enough to influence Cummins to actually do a custom design engine for their trucks Cummins will do an assortment of engines that will fit into a variety of applications. I think if Ford and Chevy were to approach Cummins for a engine to use in their 150 or half-ton models that would be enough clout to have Cummins listening to their input... and then I can actually see an inline 6 being made into production... again I am just speculating here... because Ford had the same type of setup with Navistar... Ford basically was stuck with whatever Navistar engines or on the market at the time

[@dchawk81]

guy proulx Because that's not how it works. You either buy what they make or you find a supplier that makes what you want. You gotta be a seriously heavy hitter to get your own R&D team and manufacturing line.

[@txrebelredneck3961]

I would think they would have a say I. what kind of engine goes in their vehicles especially when they own the rights to it. Also tell me what other kinds of vehicles does Cummins make a v8 for. Cummins has always been a straight 6 engines in th ram and 18 wheelers forever.

[@TheDaltonmichaels]

a straight 6 would mean much less interior space , or if they didn't take it out of the interior it would mean a longer and heavier nose. a scaled down cummins would have been a good idea for engine design and from a proven technology stand point. but for truck stand point a V configuration is more practical. more room for radiators and condensers and passengers. plus you probably don't have to pull the cab or motor to change a head or work on the engine. for the most part.

[@tritchie6272]

From my understanding the six won't fit into this truck. Not completely sure how accurate this is. But I'm thinking you have to be in at least 2500 territory before the inline 6 will fit.

[@strafe777]

The styling of these trucks just does not seem to flow. Reminds me of the station wagon in the Chevy Chase Vacation movie, the "family truckster"

[@843MudMafia.]

do one with ram

[@Tadicuslegion78]

What no Medusa or Kraken in this version of Clash of the TItans

[@nonrevhogan8938]

Where is Gold Mine Hill???

[@eddielinkroum8468]

v8 cummins?

[@k.r.v.4219]

Once again there Andre' and Nathan, great reporting! However a more realistic gas/diesel comparison would have been between a gas XD and diesel XD, instead of using a gas Titan reg half ton! I also notice, with the great way you run over the camera to get an amazing view by the way if the complete undercarriage, the gas half ton, but don't know if the gas XD is the same, but the half ton has real dual exhaust, but only to the muffler! With a two inlet one outlet! Why wouldn't Nissan have a duel in AND out muffler? Or two mufflers with a crossover equalizing connection?? For the added benefit of true dual exhaust?? Hey they could ever have that for the diesel also!!! Yes their nice trucks, but only the half ton, but even that could loose weight!! But the XD? Come on! If I bought a truck that heavy? It would be a real HD/SD!! But on the other hand the price for the Nissan diesel, loaded of course is a good buy! If you do not have the need for heavier loads, or towing jobs!! But want a diesel, in a full size truck? Unless other half tone diesels come out! Like an F150, with that great I think Lion V6 diesel? In an F150, with a load capacity that dwarfs the XD's at 3,000 lbs. or so! But really you could do no wrong with any of the new trucks out today! It all comes down to personal preference.

[@Zecrid.]

IMO these will never be fleet vehicles because they cram so much technology into the base model it's kind of stupid.

[@Lexman00]

I kinda wanted them to talk more about the V8 Cummins....

[@DanielDaniel1]

I've heard of nothing but problems out of the diesel.

[@robgrune3284]

Nissan should have put their money into building a very strong Titan with a Cummins ISF2.8 diesel. This could have taken the lead in the 1/2T segment. 30mpg hiway. 450# torque. easily could pull 10k# with an Aisin tranny. the current XD is getting a bad rap, which will push Nissan way down in reputation. the XD is a dumb move.

[@ryanbruns4217]

creative title!

[@killermobiledetailing2795]

The future platinum reserve will have foldable mirrors 2021 and beyond

[@METALITHrevetments]

Neither the Ford Raptor nor the RAM Power Wagon are offered with a diesel. There is a reason.

[@METALITHrevetments]

The latter, obviously.

[@johnw391]

Larger fuel tank would great for these trucks. Since. All the others trucks have them gotta stay current to sale trucks. Don't wanna stay is the past like Toyota

[@johnw391]

guy proulx if they did they might sale enough to make it worth the effort of making them

[@johnw391]

guy proulx no if they were to upgrade more than just changing the color paint the might sale more and like you said complete redsign

[@TheDaltonmichaels]

that basically half ton nissan xd weighs 7,300 # holy pig! thats more than my duramax weighed!

[@TheDaltonmichaels]

but i think cummins is going to offer the 5 litre v8 diesel as a crate motor because of the nissan they are going to have to actually. So i cant wait for an opportunity to put a v8 cummins into a much lighter old school c10 or k10 truck/suburban. they will make awesome engine swaps for the undesirable pre duramax diesel gm trucks.

[@k.r.v.4219]

Andre' your old Chevy will carry your truck camper so much better than that XD ever will! Your HD DuraMax powered Chevy has at least over 3,000 lbs. load capacity, with gobs more power and tq. than the XD diesel!!!

[@k.r.v.4219]

guy proulx only because that's what Nissan is attempting to do with their XD! It weighs the same as a HD Chevy pickup, but has a lot less tq, less hp, and less towing and carrying capacity! hence the caparison! .

[@dchawk81]

guy proulx Nissan is playing fast & loose with their naming and building of this truck. "XD" makes you think "Xtra Duty", larger dimensions make you think "tougher", and the diesel make you think "stronger" all while not actually being so. Since Nissan isn't SAYING it's a heavy duty truck outright, they can avoid warranty claims. But they're being very sketchy. It's pretty sleazy, and the design steals from others in a hideous concoction that's rather Korean in nature.

[@k.r.v.4219]

dchawk81 I'm not so sure how guy can reason as he does. But no mater what their called or classified, a truck that has a dry weight of a HD, but less capacity of an F150, with Fords HDPayload package, or even without, that is marketed as an alternative to a HD/SD, like the Nissan Titan XD is? Well any reasonable thoughtful person could compare them!

[@dchawk81]

Kevin Voyer I agree completely.

[@RyanH0809]

Both nice trucks!

[@Toyota_Fortuner]

I choose Titan diesel

[@Zecrid.]

they look more like a f150 than the current and upcoming f150, lol

[@RGCFlick]

If you are going to do a Gas v. Diesel off-road why not use one of the new pickups that are pushing 900+lbs of torque?

[@derekortiz3663]

neither.

[@TheDruumais]

gasoline +

[@williamheinsinger7390]

DIESEL FOR ME 💪👍

[@djowsvideos]

I forgot to shift! Hhahahaha

[@hawaiianflavor69]

cummins V8 thats slower than gas V8. these new Nissan Titans makes no sense.

[@Phantom0309]

*petrol lol

[@Indianahillclimber]

Toyota build me a Tacoma TRD off road with turbo 3.0 diesel please.

[@Indianahillclimber]

Also make the emissions equipment easy to remove, I understand it voids the warranty just do it please.

[@gunnerhicks5185]

The Cummins has a transmission from a semi.

[@damienmccue2793]

not a big fan of the looks, got those anamae eyes

[@austinkolling3994]

you dont let the Japanese make desiel, Nissan is the only company I have seen make a diesel so bad that it can't beat a gas truck off the line....great utilization of the diesel engine guys good job 🖒

[@bepis126]

Austin Kolling Since when is a diesel supposed to outrun a gas engine?

[@Icutmetal]

Jesus, really?? You’re really showing your ignorance.

[@WQQKIE]

Junk, and what a hideous design. Do they purposely make them look ugly? because they take the prize.

[@RM.....]

Shame that the nose of the truck is just ugly.I like the truck other than that.

[@oralmumble2460]

Probably the last comment

[@juanitofootball94]

Germano Gionta dude you fugly lol

[@paulespinosa6832]

Juan Guzman thats actually a picture of his mother lol

[@juanitofootball94]

damn lol

[@oralmumble2460]

Juan Guzman you really think that's me

[@paulespinosa6832]

Yes sir I mean mam

[@kcraftinsuranceagency4986]

The Titans look a bit too much like the Ford...which makes me wonder?!?!

[@scarlettamps]

Those are the ugliest trucks in history.

[@Karl-bc8ce]

atleast they make trucks do you?

[@Racer57]

I disagree. The color schemes aren't the best, but I much prefer the clean look of the body over the recent Chevy's. My least favorite looking truck are the early 2000's Rams

[@markbrown7936]

scarlettamps especially for 60k

[@joshuachilders129]

I thought they were ugly at first but I've seen one leveled and larger tires.... makes it look way better!

[@willmcelroy8176]

I'm a Chevy guy but I like the new Titans .

[@cw4973]

The UGLIEST truck on the road by a long shot!

[@gerardomontano8040]

Both of this trucks are ugly AF!

[@itzcorbyn3902]

the Ford f250 supper duty has about 1000fp of torque

[@itzcorbyn3902]

(power stroke)

[@itzcorbyn3902]

with platinum

[@Icutmetal]

Supper duty, huh? It fixes dinner for us now?

[@bcjdwbiernfjherwfbowfib]

No offense, but you guys are a joke. "Not having electric folding towing mirrors is an issue in my book" is the stupidest statement i've heard in a while. Electric folding mirrors make the truck more expensive, and it's one more thing to fix when it breaks. And I have room to talk because my Z71 Silverado, with MANUAL towing mirrors, has 164,300 miles on it. I don't just drive a new truck for 10 miles whining about electric towing mirrors lol.

[@cameronreynolds9264]

Emory Bragg the problem is that most people want electric mirrors when they're paying 60k for a truck

[@TFLtruck]

FYI: Never got past the first two words. No offense, but we never read passive aggressive comments.

[@87gunsnroses]

Emory Bragg my 2003 silverado ss has power folding mirrors and they still work. You whining about them stating they wish the truck had such a feature is ridiculous.

[@bcjdwbiernfjherwfbowfib]

It's just one more thing to fix if they break. Thats not something to complain about not having. Something to complain about is long term engine, transfercase, oil lifter issues. I watched y'alls video on the 6.0 Chevy 2500 HD, because I may get one in a couple of years. However, you guys complained about the 6.0 not being powerful enough. Its a heavy duty truck, not a drag truck!! The 6.0 vortec will last 300k+ miles, and you complain about speed? Im not judging your youtube channel. Great quality videos. But if you make videos, be honest.

[@bcjdwbiernfjherwfbowfib]

I try to look up videos to learn more about trucks, but instead just 3 guys drive a truck for a few miles and complain about gadgets they don't have, not real world problems.

[@deepee1544]

Both trucks look like ass. Just buy a RAM and forget about it!