Classic WoW Fire Mage DPS

[@bstjules]

Intellect doesn't scale spell power in classic...

[@finkz5674]

yup, only crit. Also, the crit robes he's wearing are outweighed by the significant spellpower boost from robe of the archmage. Still, not better.

[@Kedislol]

Um intellect does NOT increase spell damage in classic.

[@johnscribb6731]

Really enjoying your series! its a great reference.

[@BillRevis]

Great video, could you do warlocks next? I've heard they start off weak and get way stronger with naxx gear, I'm curious what the difference is with naxx bis vs pre raid gear.

[@hughjazz4936]

Mage BiS hands are t2 though. Also at BiS lvl you should be rolling ignites instead of spamming fireball. Try it =)

[@bigmanlizard7326]

love that fact there within the first minute theres a massive error intellect doesnt increase spell damage

[@adamkawka7838]

i find that way off because full t2 set with world buffs will do way higher damage then the gear your using the 8 set 10% proc for a insta cast fully buffed is around 230-290ish sp eq since you pyro on your free proc and by naxx there is 40slot so you can take up the slot for it but even in bwl its still around 180-210 sp which trumps 5% crit by far

[@Jwizard123]

Why does this have so many dislikes? Great vid duuu.

[@Pneuma001]

Intellect doesn't increase spell damage in classic WoW.

[@うちはイタチ-n6f]

I wonder, are mages entitled to roll on the T3 shoulder tokens in naxx? because apparently mages wear an offset piece while both priests and warlocks would have the T3 shoulders as BiS. I‘m asking because I find those black shoulders so damn ugly lol

[@kaspergn]

You'll probably have no problem getting then after priest and locks get theirs.

[@poffo954]

Imo you should have testet 31 arcane 20 fire since i bet thats what most will be runing for the PoM/Pyro comb even if not the top and best i would still have been nice to see the numbers in a raid set up cuz as i said i think most will be running that spec if not going frost...you wont see meny true fire mages due to the price of respec....and full fire vanilla is by no means pvp viabel..especialy not at vanilla ano 2019. Would also be nice if you like in frost show crit. spelldamage + etc.

[@deanford4549]

You can increase your dps by casting fireblast off cd just need to be in range. You should get higher numbers. You want fireblast to crit to proc ignite.

[@Matthewtron3030]

If you're solo, or maybe just 2 fire mages in a group/raid, sure. But if you have 4+ fire mages in a raid, you do NOT want the Ignite from Fire Blast. You want to "roll" the Ignite with 5 "snapshots", all 5 of which are based on crits from Fireball (or Pyroblast, but probably not due to cast time). I say 4+ fire mages because (with world buffs) they should have enough crit to start and maintain a strong ignite. This is also why you want to let Ignites from Scorching fall off, because those crits will be smaller, and the rolling Ignite will do less damage.

[@stefdraenar7364]

I've seen plenty of mistakes on this video! On BWL and ZG gear you are wearing Bloodvine so you can hit cap otherwise no matter how much spell power you have resists is always there! On Naxx bis gear you are using Eyestalk Waist Cord(C'thun) and Dark Storm Gaunlents(C'thun)! Without the gloves you are not hit cap and if you use t3 belt you lose 1% crit for no reason! Also at the start of the video you said that mages don't need pvp but they do! BiS shoulders till Rime Covered(Gluth) are R10 shoulders and r7 boots! Throughout the whole expansion only 2 cloth shoulders exist with crit and that's GLuth's one and R10! As it says above intellect doesn't scale spell power only crit and mana pool! Peace

[@Scallers813]

Yeah bro, during that phase the vast majority of our measures don’t wear blood vine because were hit capped without it. Six from talents, two from trinket, one from offhand, one from gloves, two from enchants on head and legs, One from cape, One from boots - either blood vine or frost boots from BWL, This is the basic get up that our measures have been using this phase. Now from here it varies, some people use the spell hit rings from ZG, some people parentheses like me and parentheses use the bloodline pants, you’re at 14% hit at this point and some people just sit at 14, some people use one Dash two more percent somewhere… But very few of our measures use the full blood line set

[@Scallers813]

Actually a lot of measures have been going for 8/8 tier 2 and utilizing the ZG rings

[@stefdraenar7364]

@@Scallers813 Tbh most of the basic setup use bloodvine except the boots they are using from trash on BWL. The rings from ZG are useless if you looted tear and bracers of arcane accuracy cause you gonna be overhitcap. There are mages using full t2 but i am totally against it cause you lose so much crit for fire specc and you are so dependant on a 10% procc

[@Scallers813]

Stef Draenar There are videos out there the crunch the numbers between tier 2 bis vs bis and T2 bis in phase 5 is only like 7-11 dps worse. Not too bad when you can get the majority of the set up before phase 5 even comes out. It all depends on what you can get your hands on , I didn’t get the Bracers but I was able to get ring of spell power times two so it all just kind of depends - I guess my point was I don’t see a lot of measures utilizing the full blood vine set, moreso warlocks

[@legend-of-synthwave5399]

Can you spec an all arcane mage and show the DPS with just plus spell damage gear?

[@MetaGoblin]

I knew that music was Metallica. Good choice.

[@Maxvla]

Mind quickening gem is bis for all of vanilla. Easily crushes that sapphiron trinket.

[@aotearoaaudio]

thanks for the vid! if i have 4 mages can they each apply 1 scorch on the target or does it all have to be from the same one mage? thanks!

[@ivanbarcot6767]

aotearoa 1 fire mag in raid is enough to play with scorch ... all of u have benefits. Same as ice chill in frost spec

[@stefdraenar7364]

@@ivanbarcot6767 i disagree with that. What are you going to do on bosses that have plenty of adds like C'thun? Having 15% minus damage on every add?

[@Matthewtron3030]

It's advised that every fire mage in the raid has at least 1-2 points in improved scorch, if not 3/3, so you can all quickly contribute to 5 stacks at the beginning of a fight and then, hopefully with some coordination, all build up a nice fat Ignite phase. If Ignite falls off, you can quickly restart the rotation. If you only have one mage with Improved Scorch... 1) you have to wait for 5 scorch casts from one person before all the fire mages begin damage in earnest. 2) It sucks to be that one mage whose damage is gimped. 3) What happens if that mage dies? Oh well, kiss 15% additional fire damage goodbye for the rest of the fight.

[@crazyscarsgames332]

why are u doing that much dmg with bis gear i cant reach it on my pserver with same gear !

[@damien2729]

He's using recount, basically take those numbers and cut in half for actual dps

[@huntercimini5640]

talent tree dude???

[@jacechan5499]

nah with 2 mana pot 2 ranks of mana gems and 1 demonic rune u can last a whole fight for sure

[@luriwerfer3]

great job

[@t2d748]

i do about 350 dps in preraid bis as frost, wtf

[@danludvigsen1974]

could you please explain the rotation and other spells to use + spec for arcane/frost and fire?

[@p199a]

fire mage can do more dps in mc than frost mage ofc on bosses that are not immune to fire

[@Pneuma6969]

but ressistant. so you'll lose a lot of damage

[@martimcfly8160]

@@Pneuma6969 fire Mage crit gear make much more dmg in Mc. But a hell of Aggro

[@Cryttanz]

These numbers seem really off compared to what i've seen from other videos/logs.

[@NoSkillsNoFun]

Can only agree, the pre raid bis is better or comparable to other bis naxx gear classes. Something is off here. Maybe he accidentally used fireball / frostbolt for the frost mage video, rank 10 from AQ ?

[@taintedgaming8750]

Great video man

[@jimmyjamespwnysux]

that music is mint ! who is it ?

[@killval849]

I believe it's like an acoustic version of Orion by Metallica.

[@malekakrami]

Hey dude, really enjoy this series! Keep it up! I'd like to point out that fire mage will do significantly less dps in MC/BwL because of the high fire resist on mobs and bosses in there.

[@binocular2011]

Hey nicee VID ! Can i see a Talent Treee please? :)

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

Can you make one of these for warlocks?

[@Twiiidy]

You have the wrong enchants on head and legs, T3 gloves aren't BiS, and I would have gone with the C'Thun belt. Interesting video though

[@aaronm3416]

And you put gear from AQ in the BWL set... judging from comments you don’t know what you’re talking about.

[@goldman9882]

Vote for "Classic WoW Warlock DPS" ALL Specs! :D

[@phildepain]

Is nobody gonna point out the Metallica on ukulele 🤘🏾

[@giacomobergonzi4906]

That made this video perfect

[@c0mplexy]

Quality content

[@mikakillen]

Sweet content man! Have my sub! Could you do Huntard next?

[@o0TraceuR0o]

atiesh is not bis for mage in naxx progression

[@logic9436]

wow, so many errors in this.

[@rivendongerz6243]

fireball, fireball, fireball, fireball. Fun.

[@Pneuma6969]

it absolutly doesnt matter which damage skills you push, wheres the difference? if you push fireball or pyroblast, wheres the difference? all you do is pushing a button, nothing changes. even if you would have 20 damage skills, all you would do is push buttons, so its completly irrelevant what skill does damage.

[@rivendongerz6243]

​@@Pneuma6969 Then why Blizzard should keep releasing expansions?, because all are the same. level up, gear up, and kill, all the expansions the same. You are trolling here, or simply you haven't played many rpgs.

[@Pneuma6969]

@@rivendongerz6243 because different expansions still have different zones and stories? what bullshit is this question now? it simply doesnt matter if you use a fireball on your opponent or you use a pyroblast. or a frostbolt and a icelance. you push a damage button, you dont do anything else. its absolutly wayne which one, since if you do enough damage its absolutly unimportant. in classic you spam frostbolt as a frostmage, you still do your damage. you spam fireball as firemage and you still do your damage.

[@rivendongerz6243]

​@@Pneuma6969 "because different expansions still have different zones and stories? " - Different classes and different abilities and talents too. Maybe you do not mind about playing the same rotation or classes for 15 years, but, many people do. "it simply doesnt matter if you use a fireball on your opponent or you use a pyroblast. or a frostbolt and a icelance. " -The fact that you do not care about it, does not mean it doesn't matter. You may only worry about destroying the numbers by pressing as few keys as possible, but many people choose one class or another taking into account the ways their skills interact with each other, and how they enrich the dynamism of the rotation; in brief, what they consider fun. For example, there are people who liked playing fire in Legion because of his reactive rotation, and the interaction between their abilities, different passives, and CDs. "you push a damage button, you dont do anything else. its absolutly wayne which one, since if you do enough damage its absolutly unimportant." -Now, why not reduce the 3 Affli DoTs to 1 that does the damage of the three together? Why not reduce the 9 classes to 3, if with one per role (mele, ranged and heal) with 1 or 2 skills each one that do exactly the same? "in classic you spam frostbolt as a frostmage, you still do your damage. you spam fireball as firemage and you still do your damage." -Tons of damage, but there's 0 skillcap in smashing a button like a monkey > no challenge > boring. But, if I play a class that has a set of different skills that complement each other, different skills for what I need in each moment and an active rotation which forces me to THINK which button should I press next in order to maximize my damage, improving my rotation on the way if want to be the first in damage done , I will have more fun in the process, although the purpose is the same. So, I play to have fun, and to outdo myself. People should play whatever they want, and I understand that someone could get fun playing as a mage in vanilla, specially, at PvP. But saying that all classes are the same because all consist of smashing buttons, is retarded AF.