Classic WoW Hunter PvE Guide (Talents, Rotation, Consumables, etc.) | Classic WoW Guide

A full Classic WoW Hunter PvE Guide.
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00:31 Race Selection
01:41 Professions
04:04 Talents and Builds
04:53 Stats and Gear
06:22 World Buffs and Consumables
08:44 Pets
09:26 Rotation and Cooldowns
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[@TipsOutBaby]

Thanks to Cadet for helping with this. More to come soon!!!

[@TipsOutBaby]

Also, special thanks to Murlo_C and VisaCrizzly, new Patron Legends who supported me in making this video!

[@VeryCoolJeep]

Tips Out how about Rogue

[@dozzer88]

@@TipsOutBaby Warlock next please

[@heywood4208]

Druid next please.

[@keplomancer]

please make a rogue pve/pvp guide

[@Nickz666]

I hope you realise that I will be coming back to this video multiple times in prep for and during classic. Thanks Tip. Its exactly what I needed.

[@MetaGoblin]

Pretty on point guide Only two things I would have mentioned was the importance of getting a 3 second attack speed bow to match the cast time of aimed shot so you don't clip an auto shot Also the rotation changes as a troll. When you cast berserk and rapid fire at the same time its best to leave aimed shot out of the rotation and just spam auto shot and multi shot. Plus snarler is a good raiding wolf pet option because he has the strongest resistance stats in the game.

[@Karifax]

ye agree with pet choice coz pets in vanilla die pretty easy in boss AOE damage

[@TipsOutBaby]

Thanks for the input man!

[@OboYarn]

Your aimed shot gets faster as well with attack speed buffs so I dont see why you wouldnt use aimed shot 🤔

[@SimplyAshen]

As a troll - shouldn't you also use Arcane shot when you drop Aimed shot during the buffed phase?

[@Gogmosis]

I found that 3 seconds isnt needed, just something slower than 1.6sec. This will have aimed shot replace one of the autoshots, which aimed shot hits harder.

[@Jester-15]

The quality of the videos went up. Good stuff

[@CollectivePOV]

This couldn't have come at a better time. I literally just rolled a hunter on Kronos 3 yesterday. Love your videos, Tip! The editing on this video was really well done too. Great job!

[@anselem11]

I have watched almost everything you make, but this is just on another level of quality. My hats off to you Tip keep up the great work!

[@Cozmoz79]

As a guy who mained hunter in vanilla (tho just got rank 12 gear due to time) and saw the video with Cadet. This is just making me long for it's release even more! But thanks for uploading this. Due to all the consumables you need I find that engeneering and alchy is a good choice. As I plan to use my main alt (not the lvl 5 banker) as a mage teleporting around the world and collect the mats I need for my main (ores and flowers) and not to forget able to aoe farm better if I am chasing after a recipe or just gold farm. Not that hunter is bad on his own but mage brings so much more when it comes to famring and TP as you please. But good point to invest in skinning early on to boost your income when leveling up. Some say 2nd should be either mining to keep/sell ores or tailoring to make your own good slotted bags and when possible, sell some as you go. Since you will have some cloth leftovers from your first aid. Other then that, this video is pretty much spot on. Love your work and love for making these videos man. Keep up the good work! Ohh and +1 ofc =) EDIT: Good call on the races as well, most important playing any mmo, play what YOU want. It's an RPG after all. Play X class with Y spec just because it happens to be the "best" might grow boring after a while, and you'll end up rerolling (again?). For me personally, I select my race depending on animations, like the "feel" of it, attack/spell effects and what I want to use it for it, how gear looks etc. I will most likely focus on pvp. Meaning having that Shadowmeld with a stealthed cat as a base defender is invaluable, or if you just prefer to hide around and ambush ppl on the road or in the open. Thanks agian.

[@TipsOutBaby]

vXCozmoz Thanks for this comment!

[@smileyleaves3066]

I love how you speak slowly, not like rest of them like someone chasing them

[@reckbomb82]

Brings back some good memories from my vanilla hunter. Rolling around with Broken Tooth and Crossbow of Smiting from BWL in BGs, just straight up deleting casters.

[@GiovaGouki]

Waiting for everyone of these mate, i really want to roll more than 2 classes (the ones i rolled at the time vanilla was live) this time, with the increased coscience of the game i got in the years, so wanna roll and maximize everything i can! Meanwhile, thank you for your amazing work!

[@1MoreTurn]

My first character was a rogue, but my second (was my main) was a dwarf hunter. I thought the dwarf in the cinematic was cool and I always wanted a pet. I had a bear, but later found out that other animals had different abilities, and stats. In the end i settled with a turtle which was a blackfathoms deep boss, ghoom’ra. Shell shield ability was great for tanking elites. Yep. Gimlibronze that was that hunters name. Lol silly name. Good times though.

[@zdl5665]

Great guide Tip. I think you've helped me settle on a race/class combo for classic. Now all that's left is the waiting...

[@arrghh0]

Something that I feel should be mentioned here, particularly if people are watching that haven't actually played vanilla before: For your second primary profession, if you do choose engineering, just be aware that you're going to be hard pressed to actually level engineering to max without mining. Considering you're going to want to be saving up while you level to be able to afford your mounts, skill training, etc., by not coupling engineering with mining you're going to be spending a LOT of gold for materials.

[@matthewburroughs9597]

Engineering without mining would be a nightmare to work.

[@Chob0o]

@@matthewburroughs9597 Even with mining was a nightmare.

[@GowtuGames]

More classic content is always better! Even though i already watched every class guide a couple of times by different people i still watch the next one 😂

[@GowtuGames]

Great production quality btw! 👍

[@Noobzilla_MMORPG]

Definitely playing Hunter again in Classic, saving this to watch at home later. Thanks!

[@carlosgonzalez2651]

cant wait to classic to be out :) i been playing for over 14 years now, i started 3 months prior bc and never had the cahnce to xp full vanilla im really exicted, ty tips for all the guides.

[@FGazi-qf1hp]

And remember always use growl on your pet no matter what./s

[@Daxterous]

Kapp

[@madac219]

Especially in MC and never dismiss you're pet even while jumping off cliffs.

[@brandungmedia]

Wow, well done guide and very nice editing! Keep up the INSANE quality! :)

[@wythore]

8:30 Major Mana Potions are so good you repeated them twice :)

[@nekkabaw8468]

Love the guide, can’t wait to see the other classes!

[@anram2174]

answered all my questions. good work!

[@Psychoveliatonet]

Fantastic video - thank you so much for making this! This was incredibly helpful for me.

[@bbiggie97]

Druid guide Druid guide Druid guide Druid guide Druid guide ❤️

[@olaeret123]

1-10 moonfire. 10-20 bear-bear-bear-heal-bear-bear... 20-60 cat-cat-cat-heal-cat-cat-cat heal repeat

[@NeVeRLiFt]

I seem to recall the spec that actually did the most damage was 21 Marksmanship and 30 Survival. Been a long time but I do think this was the spec that scaled the best with agility and did the most damage if you cherry picked your gear even at the expense of wearing some leather pieces. Nice to see you mention Lupos, his bite doing shadow damage did ignore armor and made him a force to be reckon with!

[@MrOrmanley]

I believe the lvl50 class quests came out after Dire Maul, so if you do not include DM loot (Backwood Helmet/Ogre forged Hauberk/Tarnished Elven Ring(s)/Barbaric Blade/Bracers of the Exclipse/Warpwood Binding/Royal Seal of Eldre'Thalas), you'll have to exclude Devilsaur Eye too. Also, Windreaver Greaves (Scholo Gargoyle Boss) and Mongoose Boots (crafted) for feet are better Cadaverous Armor (Scholomance) and Black Dragonscale Breastplate (with Shoulder for +1 hit) are a good choice as well as if you cant get your hands on the ubrs shoulders, which are heavily contened by rogues, warriors, other hunters and possibly druids/shamans/paladins. Also (if stats are changed to str/agi/stam: Gladiators chain from brd arena runs. Also ST can drop Atal'ai Breastplate, which has 22ap fixed plus random bonuses like falcon/monkey/tiger/wolf (16-17 agi plus other stat), agility(25-26), power(50-52 ap) As for rings, Blackstone Ring is easily farmable as hunter and afaik better than the zg ring. If av is out at/shortly after launch, farming the exalted ring would be good, too, since rings are heavily contested and chances are you wont get ANY AT ALL. Also DW is generally the way to go because of 2x 15agi enchants vs 1x 25agi on a 2h. Dalrend set is pre raid BiS afaik, but hard to get. Alternatively 2x Bone Slicing Hatchets/Dawns Edges Ranged Weapon BiS should mention Black Crow (hit), Dwarven Hand Cannon (lots of dps) and Bloodseeker (AV quest, and absolute pre BiS weapon) In terms of roation, afaik you should leave a small window after your Aimed Shot to allow an Shot in, and THEN cast Multi Shot.

[@richardhulsey949]

btw one of the big reasons to get engineering as a hunter is you can fain death and use jumper cables to add another wiper prevention method

[@nahsti8043]

I literally downloaded Classic and made a hunter today...... Are you kidding me dude?! Subbed.

[@Forty2de]

Gun specialization is better than bow specialization because bow specialization doesn't affect crossbows. All bis items are crossbows and guns are next in line, the only decent bow in the entire game is the onyxia quest bow which is only on par with tier 1 and not as slow as you'd like.

[@doitforcab]

You can't use juju flurry as it puts your rapid fire on CD, but overall a well informed guide.

[@Romanowski_808]

You've gotten alot better editing videos. Grats man

[@ninehills42]

4:23 Nice 0-31-18, we save the last 2 talent points for WoW 2

[@jessew3047]

No mention of raptor strike?. When aimshot and multishot are on CD you have a small window where you can run into melee raptor strike and still make it back out and not clip an auto shot. While it's very difficult and only viable in some situations; it does offer a 40-60dps increase.

[@ghostlygardener5644]

Shout out to the Orc for hunter. Decent racials in pet Damage and melee damage active (can be useful in certain moments), as well as a crazy stun resist racial for PvP.

[@anonymousjeffry1864]

Anti-Venom up to level 25. Doesn't have much use at 60.

[@yessuplaywow6734]

DM tribute buff doesnt help for Range Attack power =/

[@trapper7954]

Hello i don’t understand what you mean with 9% hitcap and what talent build you should use. Someone pls help idk what to spec in. I basically want to solo PVE and use beasts and as high as possible damage output

[@M4Production]

Oh tips, giving those tips on the easiest class! Oh damn that rotation is one of the most complex! Just because they're the easiest level doesn't mean their end game isn't 10x more complicated.

[@davidd9707]

I had no idea you could feign death and lay a trap after. Good stuff

[@K1xa]

good vid, cant wait for a priest guide

[@joshuatucker2521]

I always preferred Troll hunter to other races.. but also always been told Orc is BIS for hunter due to Beserking scaling with your current HP situation. What is correct?

[@TwitchVoDsDrama]

Bookmarked come classic. Great video as always brother

[@TipsOutBaby]

thanks man

[@morfisia]

just a comment for pets, forgot to mention need tame a wolf in LBRS for Furious Howl Rank 4, and loads work for learn ability pets on leveling, no all pets have same rank ability on tame, hunter need find loads pets for hight rank also hunter in vanilla can have max 3 pets, two in stable and one carried, for the rest nice guide!

[@bourbon5983]

In the end it all doesnt fucking matter. People back in vanilla had no idea what are they doing and they still cleared all the content.

[@Stozzek]

instead of telling me to screen shot .. your talent builds, what i want to hear is 'you can check them in the info down below' and actually place it there. Keep going with the good stuff.

[@mariusknauer5623]

Major Mana Potions, Demonic Runes, Major Mana Potions .... i just guess the 2nd should be mageblood elixir

[@morfisia]

also brilliant mana oil for mana regent and enchant bracer for MP5 if want

[@jz3488]

I remember there being a 1h sword from one of the dire mauls that had +AP vs elementals. If you are looking for strictly best pre-raid gear to go into an MC raid with, duel wielding these was the max possible ap vs MC bosses/trash. I was never able to confirm if these effected range ap vs elementals though, so perhaps Cadet could clarify. Update: Here we go. Weapon name is Fiendish Machete, with +5 agility and +36 AP when fighting elementals. wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Fiendish_Machete

[@novat9731]

In addition, you can enchant each of these swords with +15 agility, as opposed to +25 agility on a single 2h weapon.

[@macy4735]

DMT buffs are definitely not more important than Zandalar. DMT is melee attack power only.

[@PRAKERO]

Nice guide! Im New in wow and i take skining and leatherworking for my Hunter 😁

[@chronosousa]

Is crit not more important the agi? (Pre-raid gear) No matter on what buff is on you? Ben told , that hunters depends on crit to buff your own dps.

[@onima1753]

I got my tip out and I'm ready to watch this, leggoo

[@TipsOutBaby]

TIPS OUT ALWAYS

[@captain7745]

Take out 2 points from parry and 3 from humanoid slaying in the surefooted spec, and put them into imp aspect of the hawk. Its a must have talent...

[@Norish1337]

Can multi shot clip auto shot?

[@merhabalaraq1327]

Do you guys think orc hunter is good? I leveled him up to 19 now and im pretty happy about it. And which profesdions should i choose?

[@greenchilistudioz4537]

Leatherworking and skinning are you safest and best options

[@justiny.7814]

How does hardiness work is it an additional 25% on your existing chance to avoid stuns ( only 1-2% extra) or is it normal chance to avoid stuns +25% extra overall chance. Will I even notice orcs hardiness if I take it? If you know, please respond. Thanks

[@gaarakabuto1]

I just want to ask 2 things. One, why none talks about survival talent tree that maximizes the crit chance with lightning reflexes and killer instinct. Two, what's the case of support Hunter with the nightfall turn?

[@gaarakabuto1]

You dont get a nightfall hunter for the dps really but for the buff that he is the most effective class to proc it with a spam every 1 sec he can get pretty big amount of those on a boss fight for the rest of the run you are a humble hunter doing ranged damage none mentioned melee hunter but nightfal hunter nor the survival hunter has anything to do with melee hunter but actually there is a talent path maximizing your crit chance through survival talents.

[@Captaintrippz]

@@mr.voidroy6869 I believe the logic is give nightfall to a low dps raid member and not a warrior who can top the dps charts with an arms/fury build, hence why shamans pallys and hunters will usually sport the nightfall. [Hunter's preffered because they can get a melee attack in every gcd with wingclip.

[@Gropylol]

You should put an auto shot between the aimshot and mulitshot

[@whyme4476]

I can’t find any videos about BM hunters in pvp. We’re they good? And if so. How good? Also raiding as a BM hunter possible at all?

[@lunalights897]

Keep them comming, GJ /salute

[@super_guitar_dude7954]

Lovely as always Tips

[@Blasthole]

What are your thoughts on using the 0/21/30 talent build for pve?

[@HippyCheez11]

Everything is A Hunter Prio weapon. Damn you Dal rends

[@FiercedWoW]

well ya, dalrend is a great hunter weapon, just as much as it is for melee's :P Just cuz it has high base damage doesnt remove the stat bonus on both of them, or the set bonus. Goes the other way around aswell, the amount of times rogues and warriors dare to touch our bis ranged weapons or pre-raid bis ranged weapons is annoying aswell.

[@icefaceslump2095]

Need to do a Priest one :

[@agneseschen8550]

I think this guide is very high production quality and I'm a big fan of Tips Out. But who exactly is the target audience for this guide? It's labeled as a PvE guide but seem to only focus on lvl 60 raid content? And yet it spends time stating completely noob related stuff like: going over which races can play the class, and explaining that hunter traps are useful for cc and kiting. I seriously doubt any hunter that has played for months and finally dinged 60 and is now looking for a PvE guide will learn anything from this that they didn't already know - apart from maybe the section about world buffs and consumables. I mean who on earth is gonna be "Trolls have increased bow skill??? COOL! I'm gonna roll a troll hunter now! OH WAIT, lemme write that list of world buffs and consumables down so I have it when I ding 60"

[@chuck21222]

So I'm a bit confused. In Classic WOW everyone started with no money. If you choose Engineering you would have to take Mining. You don't have money to buy mats off the AH! I know I've been playing Classic WOW since it released, and all my hunters have taken the combo. I guess you could switch to something else later, but I'm not sure why any player would do that.

[@MrLASSEssein]

Can anybody confirm that it´s viable to use a thorium granade when Aimed and Multishot are on cooldown? Is the cast time of the granade woth it? Can you use one thorium grenate between the autos and is it woth to give up range (and ttherefore safety and damage avoidance) to throw it?

[@toddjanisch1490]

honest thought: Just curious as to what criteria supports being labeled "The best Classic WoW hunter in the world."

[@robertAnthonyColon]

Especially since classic ain't out.

[@stickyone11]

just curiuos if its strictly about more dps than why use a talent point on scatter shot? instead of improv mark? is it just such a small increase that the utility of scatter shot out weights?

[@Skulkesyk]

good shit, can we get one for each class pls?

[@TipsOutBaby]

Skulkesyk Andersen Thats the plan :)

[@fattycorpsl]

DM:N buff for AP doesn't apply to ranged does it.... the only buff worth it from DM:N is maybe the health one i thought.

[@falleruen]

He left out the most important part of being a hunter which is to farm maraudon and DM

[@xinnpin8112]

Rumsey Rum Black Label (not just Rumsey Rum)

[@Panzerkuchen]

Isn't a wolf superior by far in pve due to the howl increasing the dmg of your aimed shot? Also, no love for the survival pve build after x amount of agility?

[@Aurexor]

So when if I want go dwarf Hunter, engineering is only way in pve? Thought about LW cuz i love it but want to do best dps tho...

[@wtfheal926]

so you gu into a aoe rotation with sapper and oil but you dont touch on melee weaving for horde????

[@nassiissan]

gnomish or goblin engineering for Nelf Hunter?

[@nostepsnek1776]

Do hunters ever down-rank multishot? max rank is 320 mana for 150 bonus dmg, rank one is basically an autoshot for 100 mana (no bonus dmg). No way in hell is it worth it if you have to feign to drink mid fight.

[@Rev0UK1]

the "0 31 18 build" ...u wot? i might be jumping the gun here but has this error been acknowledged anywhere

[@sametsu6951]

irrelevent comment but i really like the way you talk. like pronouncing and such. is english your native language ? also when wow classic finally arrives is there a chance you can take me into your guild ? i would like to know. thanks !

[@mattmitchelson6085]

What options are there with quivers at level 60?

[@katough]

Engineers can also make their own ammo yes?

[@Ksn228]

>Lupos _Warlock screams since Lupos consumes the crit Sbolt debuff on every hit lowering their DPS_

[@doitforcab]

No it doesn't. Check any server.

[@InnerpeaceFrance]

Great vid !

[@AXLee27]

For the dps rotation, how come you Aim Shot then Multi-shot? Would it be better to Aim Shot, then Autoshot, then Multi-shot? Does the Autoshot timer not reset as you're casting Aim shot?

[@nostepsnek1776]

autoshot has a set cooldown based on weapon speed, if your aimedshot cast overlaps when the autoshot is ready to shoot again it just sits and waits to fire until aimedshot is done, IIRC even if you mash the multishot button the autoshot can squeeze in between the aimed and multi.

[@AXLee27]

YOYOYO mynaem Awesome. Thanks for the reply

[@qwertyui90qwertyui90]

arent pets attacks all normalised now in 1.12 ?

[@Asadarion]

what about the Attack power +40 bonuses ... Attack Power > Agility? or the other way around?

[@davidd9707]

14 RAP is equal to 1 dps. 1 agility gives 2 RAP (pre 2.0.1), crit chance, dodge, and armor. I would think agility would benefit more because of the crit... It takes 53 AGI to get 1% crit for hunters

[@grymmstone]

Later on the did away with RAP and just normalized everything to AP that opened up options for items without stats that had ap

[@waaynez4064]

Awesome!

[@optikjoe985]

can we have a warrior one? ...nice content as always

[@TipsOutBaby]

Optikjoe You know it brother!!!

[@MrMaxenen11]

3 Months left boys!

[@joshuarodgers4416]

Could dwarf hunters use bows in classic? I wanna say yes but I can't remember specifically

[@FiercedWoW]

ya, just not initially.

[@enigmasadrenaline6]

There isnt any Cadet Social media?

[@Razi5131]

I wanted to play dwarf with gun. You saying bows are BIS. So guns are useless?

[@Nuclearcx]

no, dwarven hand cannon is pre-raid BiS. you'll have 305 weapon skill as a dwarf. dwarf is imo better choice than nelf since you also have stoneform which allows you to gank the gazillion UD rogues out there with no problem. but yeah the best of the best weapons are bows, but you'll have the same skill as nelf with them. so makes no difference.

[@Konvalinkaphilip]

Nice vid! could you do mage next ?

[@TipsOutBaby]

Philip Konvalinka Aiming for all classes, but mage might be the next one ;)

[@Konvalinkaphilip]

That would be great!

[@manveru666]

How am I supposed to level engineering if I take Skinning? Doesn't it require Ore?

[@buntings]

sell leather for ore

[@manveru666]

@@buntings Okay but why not simply take Mining and provide resources for myself? Ore is still required for crafting bombs and stuff. I suppose I could have an alt with mining or something.

[@callmekev2689]

Pve guide: let the pets agro the mobs, auto attack and repeat

[@Catire92]

Nice !! Great

[@olov244]

no furious howl?

[@bavarianwolf3806]

so as a hunter you shoudl farm stratholme as much as you can ^^

[@snabbeman]

aaaand dwarves with +5gun skill? damn i need an updated video with correct info 💀

[@chrisazzaf7078]

Mage next please!

[@4evercuber]

Didn't engineers make arrows as well?

[@greenchilistudioz4537]

it makes bullets which can be exchange to npc for arrows