this is such a nice vid. i hate when people give you one or two specs and say these are the talents go play without explaing a bit why they pick what they pick. especially when in vanilla you can move around so many talents. I'd like to see a side by side comparison on combat dagger vs combat sword vid.
@chrisjackson12156 жыл бұрын
I think you are forgetting that while 10 energy from Vigor isnt alot for PvE its MASSIVE for PvP. Its a litteral difference between killing a target or running out of energy and letting them escape or heal.
@mshtv68945 жыл бұрын
You mention Vigor is a "crap" talent... but this was incorrect in classic; instead it was a very "gear dependent" talent and was the only way of hitting 120 energy when combined with five piece Nightslayer. In turn 120 energy unlocked Ambush-Backstab off of one energy bar which was a guaranteed kill against clothies... especially with Perditions Blade.
@lucianosimmons30035 жыл бұрын
Combat mace's (servo arms) with deep sub was incredible for pvp. Plus riposte. It was the harp build of bc minus adrenaline rush. Ridiculous stuns.
@ch1bob5 жыл бұрын
Maces better than swords for pvp, ?
@spicykimchi14 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this. I haven't played in about 12 years, and I just signed up again for classic WoW. I'm trying to figure out which spec. I want, and this video helped. I like how in classic, you can really fine-tune a character. (Actually, I tried playing for a month back around 2013, and I hated how dumbed down they made the point spec.)
@Acrono19806 жыл бұрын
hemo build was the best for pvp in burning crusade..With two swords!!!!Thnx for the memories.I loved that talent build
@NotRelevant16 жыл бұрын
I think I’m going to end up playing a backstab focused rogue with a few points in swords because i want to duel wield sword mainhand dagger offhand to give me options at max level without having to grind weapon skill. And I’m planning on going through dungeons and leveling casually for fun, so it’ll be nice to have weapon variety from drops too
@byteme0000 Жыл бұрын
Your plan is fine for end-game dungeons and so on, but it isn’t optimal for raiding. So, if you ever change your mind and decide to try your hand at raiding after all, you will need to choose between pure combat dagger or combat sword spec. Your only other alternative for using two different weapon types effectively is the non-dagger assassination spec. Just be sure that you have a 30% or better crit rating (relatively easy to achieve with the usual raid buffs).
@NoName-nu4vr5 жыл бұрын
Hemo Premed - 17/3/31 always been the best.
@TheBr1gand5 жыл бұрын
Great video mate. Good work
@quinnfable26946 жыл бұрын
Gotta be honest,Vigor was great for PvP, especially when you had the NS 5/8 bonus that gave you a combined 120 energy. I guess from a PvE standpoint you're right though...
@doomzx82845 жыл бұрын
A bit wrong about Vigor and Pvp...that extra 10 energy will allow you to do Ambush + gouge on the opener which can help a lot setup another Ambush or backstab etc...
@bjack15476 жыл бұрын
Volume level was pretty low.. then blown out at the last few seconds
@LessThanEpic6 жыл бұрын
I'll make sure that's fixed for the next one, thanks!
@byteme0000 Жыл бұрын
Let me add a comment about assassination spec. Whether you’re a human rogue (which gets a +5 sword/mace racial) or not, assassination is a terrific spec to play when you want to use your best weapons, but those weapons happen to be of different types (for example, the Claw of the Black Drake fist weapon from BWL in your MH and the Core Hound Tooth dagger from MC in the OH). The spec really shines, though, if your crit chance is 30% or better (easily achievable with the usual raid buffs). Trust me… it’s fun!
@sakis_chronisZ4 жыл бұрын
Murder skill is for pvp or its a pve talent? It calculate in pvp humanoids?
@Erati2435 жыл бұрын
hmm not sure 1 point into dual wield is better... thats only 5% more off hand damage bringing the total to 55% and it only affects offhand swings. Seems to me that point would be better spent in Dagger spec for that 1% crit, or even Vial poisons for the 4% more damage on all poisons.
@cyborgofdeath5 жыл бұрын
what are you on about rank 1 for dual wield gives 10% extra off hand damage
@MrZodiark5 жыл бұрын
i think the improved poisons talent is betetr for alliance rogues because of lack of windfury, horde should go for the murder.
@Black_Kakari5 жыл бұрын
You covered everything.... BUT!!!!!!!! Maces!!!!!!! 305/305 with maces!
@myatkg30846 жыл бұрын
Where can i play classic now? Any active or popular server ?
@LessThanEpic6 жыл бұрын
There are a few out there right now, the classic Lights Hope and Kronos are the 2 most popular ones that I know of at the moment.
@sgt.squeegee17205 жыл бұрын
There is also Elysium Project, 2500 players on peak hours. I play on there a lot.
@undacuvabrotha5 жыл бұрын
Northdale, peaks at 5k players daily
@greedojenkins99843 жыл бұрын
Herod
@enesd7086 жыл бұрын
M.A.G.E next plz.
@tdot82805 жыл бұрын
Whats up with the Deadliness Sub specc (with human)? Shouldnt it get stronger and stronger with the progress?
@richardcoelho4 ай бұрын
2:33 what is this 11010000000% chance? lol
@TheCechino-ms9nx5 жыл бұрын
But Is ok if i use the combat dagger spec for levelling and start raiding and when i start AQ use the assasination dagger spec?(First Time wowclassic):D
@dahlin18575 жыл бұрын
swords or daggers with 21/3/27 ??
@LessThanEpic5 жыл бұрын
With a hemo build you want whatever is going to be hitting hardest so a sword or mace
@wikimon6 жыл бұрын
bruh, what is "notifsuble"?
@lucianosimmons30035 жыл бұрын
Oh . You're that guy. The guy that points out a mispeak nice
5 жыл бұрын
@@lucianosimmons3003 and i'm that guy who tells you that it's spelled MISSPEAK
@lucianosimmons30035 жыл бұрын
@ Haha nice!.... but did you notice that you mistakenly spelled "I'm" incorrectly in your haste to correct myself? =)
@imnotgaygay12535 жыл бұрын
What’s a good rotation for the combat swords anyone help pls?
@craftingodst34005 жыл бұрын
spam sinister strike PepeLaugh
@LoopeRtron6 жыл бұрын
but could you facestab in official classic?
@NilsThylen6 жыл бұрын
from a quick googling "no" seems to be consensus.
@gpm-grownpeoplemusic91766 жыл бұрын
Agreed on most points. VIgor is by far the worst 31 point talent in the game. 10 Energy does absolutely NOTHING FOR YOU. Only semi viability comes from using it with Nightslayer for 120 energy but even that is meh considering its a t1 armor. www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/9uzc9f/discussion_thread_rogues_talent_optimizations_and/ Here is my suggestion on how Rogues skill trees could be optimized in vanilla for creating a much more unique and definitive playstyle for Rogues. The CB/Prep combo is broken and seriously needs an overhaul because nothing else is even remotely viable. Vigor should either be moved to 21st spot and CB to 31 point, also made 2 pointer so you can skill it into 120 energy. I dunno. TBC bought some much needed changes to rogues because their arsenal is pretty restricted in vanilla. I love the playstyle but they are insanely broken because they never removed the CB/PRep comb as no one has incentive to move further down to specialize in a tree because both Vigor and Premeditation are shit compared to CB/Prep combo.
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