Classic Yu-Gi-Oh Vs Modern Yu-Gi-Oh

[@weinterruptthisbroadcast3138]

Kaiba seeing Red-Eyes and thinking it's for Dragoon is peak

[@r3zaful]

"Oh its red eyes, ezz" Jono : Summon dragun Set 3 pass "something isn't right" Jono : stand by? Activate metaverse to necrovalley ch1 ch2 summon limit ch3 rivalry "alright im out"

[@Patrious_WoW]

thought he said Dragunity =_=

[@IC-23]

​@@r3zafuldamn if only tear didn't play Archetypal S/T Removal and only had to shuffle away necrovalley before their field spell popped everything else. It's really kind of ridiculously dumb Tear had built in outs to floodgates

[@ElickFlash]

As a person who unironically plays Red Eyes arch, that comment offended me.

[@ark3355]

​@@IC-23how do they even shuffle the field spell if they cant even touch the graveyard?

[@noise9409]

"My turn is over" "Now it's time for our turn"

[@IdiocyTV766]

Ritual beast players

[@kasendaniel3896]

*our turn

[@MilodicMellodi]

@@IdiocyTV766And Runick players

[@Shadethewolfy]

@@MilodicMellodi And VS players...

[@quique3676]

@@Shadethewolfy And Labrynth players

[@mekklord]

Really nice of Kaiba to not activate anything during Joey's first turn tbh.

[@bongopongo]

fr thought he uses effects at the drawing phase

[@Hunterboy0511]

This whole video was kaiba’s first turn😮

[@MeUltimateX]

That's bc Joey didn't do anything to trigger an activation lol, he just summoned a vanilla monster, set 2 cards and ended his turn.

[@zihaoguo6649]

⁠@@MeUltimateXwould be hilarious to see Joey activate pot of greed and was about to explain what it does and Kaiba interrupt him saying it’s actually banned. But allowed him anyways and just ash blossom.

[@christianholzschuh6853]

He was propably thinking: why did he draw on his first turn?

[@Known_as_The_Ghost]

A modern exodia deck would be pretty funny, too. "I draw a card, I draw a card, I draw a card, I Draw a card"

[@Hawk-175]

I play modern exodia sometimes and it's so much fun just to keep drawing and stalling while the opponent is waiting to get their 20 card combo on the field

[@pup1337]

Check out the new video they uploaded. We got exodia

[@Tedus987]

Then I play this to special summon one spell caster from my deck to my hand... exodia obliterate.... I sat through a 20 min combo... for this...

[@dreamisover9813]

Wow, this actually became a video. Awesome!

[@connordarvall8482]

Played against one 10 years ago. Somehow my opponent managed to draw the right cards to win on the first turn.

[@bookwormbarry]

The worse part is when it’s your turn and they start chain linking so you gotta wait until it’s actually your turn

[@RaynmanPlays]

As a (former) MTG player, I feel this on a primal level. I get that you have a 27 card combo you want to activate on my upkeep phase. Wake me up when I'm allowed to draw for turn.

[@jcrafterz]

they be like *Our turn*

[@bookwormbarry]

@@jcrafterz ugh fr. Glad i’m not the only one

[@bookwormbarry]

@@RaynmanPlays finally your turn skips draw phase then goes back to opponents LOL

[@skretch5420]

And their chain effects destroy all the cards you had and summons 4 3k damage cards to destroy you on turn 2 😢

[@lincolnaszhal5527]

We truly went from playing 10+ turns in 5 mins to 1 turn in 5 mins.

[@cartervsclements]

And I'm over it lol

[@Ookami20]

Somebody take me back please..

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

I think you mean 1/5th of a turn in 5 minutes.

[@raikage2805]

5 minutes? LMAO. How cute. New Yu Gi Oh just became so screwed 1 turn becomes 5 hours 😂😂😂

[@rexarc2477]

​@@raikage2805it become from 1 card meta to 1 deck meta 💀 litterally now just who has the better deck

[@spectralsheep]

Kaiba was playing Dragon Ruler in 2013. We have receipts.

[@technotenor0487]

In the anime he's the guy who helps with the banlist, right? If so, that means he's the reason we got Tempest back first.

[@Quickbobhero]

There were lists that ran Blue Eyes, so this is true.

[@generalsynnacle23]

@@technotenor0487But he’s also the one producing the cards to begin with, so he’s the reason *certain* cards, especially the ones on the ban list.

[@Arcanua]

Also why we have a ton of trash cards too@@generalsynnacle23

[@xCorvus7x]

@@Quickbobhero Also Obelisk.

[@solobugg5087]

Joey canonically has an instant in the anime where he has trouble understanding what a chain link is, so this is very much accurate in this case.

[@RyanAtlus]

I always find it funny when people come back to the game and complain about Spell Speed and Chain Links like they weren't already core mechanics in 2002.

[@Merilirem]

@@RyanAtlus Those people didn't understand the game is the issue. They didn't need to. Chain links didn't matter in casual 2005 play.

[@drewbabe]

@@Merilirem how many playground duelists must have chained Mystical Space Typhoon to Seven Tools of the Bandit or Solemn Judgment and gotten away with it, I wonder?

[@JackOfen]

@@drewbabe Waaaay too many (speaking from experience) and when I told them "But, it doesn't say *negate*" they just looked at me like I was trying to bullshit them 😠

[@leow.2162]

​@@drewbabeDude, half of us didn't even know how tribute summoning worked even after it had been introfuced in the anime. Chains were in the rule book but nobody read it and few people got it. For all we knew de-spell would negate spells bc we couldn't even think of why they'd give us a spell destruction card that wouldn't negate.

[@elliottpeoples1557]

Threatening roar after you opponent combo's for 30 min is peak.

[@RevWolf1776]

A 30 min combo with no negate is trash lol and they deserve it

[@Jaddas]

@@RevWolf1776 Lil bro called the IshizuTear endboard trash.

[@KaleidosXXI]

@@RevWolf1776 Summoning negates is for generic combo decks. You don't need to waste your time on summoning negates when you've got a board that can play through anything your opponent tries to do to it, and those negates won't help build your board going second over hand traps.

[@SSNNPBCC]

Nah what's funny is the amount of people who will actually forfeit because u activated the one card that allowed you to survive a single turn. It's rare but yet common enough to be stupidly entertaining.

[@tawfeeqabrahams3885]

@@RevWolf1776 So why was Ishizu Tear a tier 0 deck then?

[@Phyantis4293]

Joeys reaction to kaleido heart coming right back after being destroyed sums my reaction perfectly

[@RedMufflerMan]

Because it was my exact reaction when I was watching my friend play the deck the first time... THAT SHIT CAME FROM THE HEART

[@Phyantis4293]

@@RedMufflerMan before I knew the deck I put in real effort to destroy by card effect just them from my opponent say “Kaleido heart effect: special summon it self from grave and then a tearelement card from deck to grave for free and start the process all over again

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

​@@Phyantis4293lmao dude I was doing the same thing as well because I played live twin unchained

[@FrostReave]

Tearlaments: An archetype where every single card in its deck has a annoying Mirrorjade effect except both players can trigger it. Easily the most problematic deck ever printed besides Kashtira

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

@@FrostReave Ngl I think I'll take that over actual Mirrorjade due to it not having Mirrorjade's endphase effect

[@billding6032]

Was expecting Kaiba to tribute his end board for Blue Eyes 😂

[@mozzarellamaniac6300]

It's Kaiba, what do you expect?

[@Medbread]

​@mozzarellamaniac6300 For Kaiba to tribute his end board for blue-eyes. He just told you.

[@undefinederror5306]

He used his normal for reinoheart already

[@RafiYagami]

I thought Kaiba is more like a branded blue eyes deck kind of guy, Mirrorjade would be ace monster, blue eyes can also be summoned

[@Ry_Ryai]

@@undefinederror5306activates double summon

[@PKRockin7]

The editing in this is fucking incredible Not to mention the great voice acting

[@baileydombroskie3046]

I was about to say that too but seen this comment 1st. It’s hella good bud. I’m impressed too.

[@duckymomo7935]

I’m pretty sure the VA is AI

[@andrewx8888]

It's AI

[@AlexElder91]

Ye I’m impressed they were able to make it just as bad as the real US dubs.

[@vndrwP]

fr i thought i was actually watching an episode at first lol

[@thunderhogTH]

You know you're too deep in the yugioh brainrot when you can perfectly understand what's going on post time wizard.

[@four-en-tee]

idk if thats brainrot. Brainrot is going apeshit online about backrow when you could just be main decking a bit more backrow removal.

[@cesarmelo5704]

Please explain to me or show me where I can look to understand 😭😭

[@Merilirem]

This wasn't complicated though?

[@thunderhogTH]

@@Merilirem it is when you're listening at x2 speed

[@exiavaganza]

@@cesarmelo5704 Tearlaments Havnis has a quick effect to special summon itself when your opponent activates a monster effect (Time Wizard), and if it does, it mills three cards from your deck. Pretty much every Tearlaments card has a quick effect when milled, so the joke is Tearlaments can play during your turn.

[@jtwatts7990]

Joey in the background: “ ARE YOU FCKING KIDDING ME “ I know the feeling Joey 😂

[@JetblackSn1per]

The fact that it took me a couple seconds to determine if this was the Original or the Abridged, only for it to be another brand new fan dub, says something about the series.

[@Cloud_Seeker]

Well.. Duke Devlin doesn't have his theme music. So it is a dead giveaway.

[@A.C_B.]

"Hah, You would be running a dragoon package.." "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??!!??" that one broke me.

[@JirenFan123]

Agreed, sir.

[@deadrottenbird]

@@JirenFan123 true, madam

[@Davoxyx]

​@@deadrottenbird thy answer, majesty

[@GThe-su9kl]

What is a "dragoon package"?

[@JohnHaloWarrior95]

​@@GThe-su9klRed Eyes Dark Dragoon is a fusion monster from Red Eyes Black Dragon and Dark Magician, it's a very powerful card that used to be very splashable into Meta decks, hence the comment on Joey likely running one- even though Joey wouldn't know what that card is, as he's still running a Duelist Kingdom Deck, not modern Yugioh.

[@PrinceOfKings55]

As someone who plays master duels, and is an old school player I relate to Joey 😭

[@dragunarah8695]

“But wait there’s more!”

[@Hunterboy0511]

That’s how I felt and still feel

[@Hunterboy0511]

Kaiba’s first turn was basically this whole video

[@MaximusOfTheMeadow]

Same!

[@KertaDrake]

Walking into a game with a classic tribute summon-based deck and then watching your opponent summon their entire deck during their first turn is a unique experience. And still hilarious if you had the pure luck to have Magic Cylinder on the field when they attack you for 10000+ and forgot to include any back row removal.

[@TrueReverse74]

"You would be running a dragoon package" Is unironically the funniest line kaiba has ever said in any form of media, my one hope is that joey plays pot of greed, only to get Ash blossomed.

[@phantomkrieger2744]

Nothing more satisfying than ash blossoming pure card draw.

[@Mnerd7368]

Red Eyes Dark Dragoon

[@TheYellowTuxedo]

Oh I thought that was coming for sure.

[@daivdormaza1987]

“Are you f**king kidding me!!” Lol 😂 I have actually yelled that on master duel

[@Darkkefka]

4:57 This is what he said: "In respone to your summon, I activate Abyss Dweller Chain link 1, then I activate Sprite Elf chain link 2. From my grave I revive Tearlaments Merrli. Then my Dweller will detach one effect monster to the grave. Next I activate Merrli's effect to send the top 3 cards from my deck to the graveyard. And well would you have it....I milled a Havnis!!" But in all seriously, this deck was a dissaster. I don't know what the HELL Koonami was on with this one...

[@GeneralWiser]

Thank you for typing out what Kaiba was saying!

[@FrostReave]

They were thinking “I like money and dont much care about the consequences of my actions”

[@OlgaZuccati]

pure tearlaments was ok when it came out, it was good but not game breaking. the ishizu cards just busted the deck into oblivion, so much so the 4 cards are either banned or limited. it`s so stupid.

[@FrostReave]

@@OlgaZuccati No it wasn’t ok when it came out. People just didn’t quite catch its potential at the time at first which isn’t exactly uncommon.

[@thearsalandombgaming]

The worst part is Havnis being able to fusion summon means it will trigger Kaleido-heart's effect Which means the time wizard will be shuffled back before the effect even activates All while Joey has no opportunity to activate its effects

[@joaogabrieloliveira7101]

I can imagine Kaiba crossing into our world, looking at how blue eyes won a worlds and then gradually fell into oblivion in terms of meta relevance, telling Mokuba to fire the entire card design department and then going on a spree to make custom card level power insane blue eyes support.

[@brutalnobody5240]

suship blue-eyes?

[@atroll9996]

Dragoon of Blue?

[@IC-23]

The funny part is Blue Eyes has better card philosophy because most modern Blue eyes don't want Blue Eyed Vanilla as the end board but use it as a means to an end. Unlike a certain 2500atk Wizard which will be worse off as long as their support still ultimately relies on doing the same thing...

[@timthornton759]

Buster Blader players would be having a field day.

[@Merilirem]

@@IC-23 One of Yugioh biggest design mistakes was making them Vanilla's followed up by keeping them Vanilla's. A replacement with an actual effect would have made things so much easier.

[@SideswipePrime606]

I went into this expecting AI Text-to-Speech. I'm SO glad I was wrong! Great voice acting!

[@RedMufflerMan]

I hate AI voices All my homies hate AI voices

[@baritonetenor]

@@RedMufflerMan ur so real for this bestie

[@neaosmt1562]

Some are ok others are not

[@biggreen1456]

@@neaosmt1562nah they’re soulless

[@FvkcYoutubeCensorship]

​@@biggreen1456this may be the first time I've seen "soulless" used non-hyperbolically. Well done.

[@Asd2897]

Its ok Joey, it could always be worse. Kaiba could have been playing full power Kash and zone lock you for ten

[@magmanaught4532]

Full power tear was way stronger then full power Kash

[@Asd2897]

@@magmanaught4532 yeah but way less fun to play against

[@magmanaught4532]

@@Asd2897 that’s fair yah

[@handlebar4520]

@@Asd2897 at least he would be getting his turn this century

[@ibra8096]

Or you could chain shifter and tears would commit suicide lol

[@yogirajmore63]

" Fine i will allow you a turn" I could hear the failure.

[@solidgent7870]

There was another video that summed up modern Yu-Gi-Oh perfectly: "I summon a monster in attack mode!" "So... you have chosen DEATH"

[@KertaDrake]

Death by old age, in fact!

[@malcontender6319]

@@KertaDrake "And it'll happen to YOU"

[@FrostReave]

Maybe if you learned how to play the game as it is now you would realize that you were 100% at fault for going first and not building a real board. Whether it was in attack or defense is not the issue

[@TGPDrunknHick]

@@FrostReave or maybe Konami should've given a shit about game balance and not walked off the deep of things.

[@FrostReave]

​@@TGPDrunknHick 1:) If you get a unplayable hand what do you expect the game to do. You got unlucky the opponent did not. Thats not the game being solitaire that is just how games work. Do you cry when you die in a FPS after getting ambushed? 2:) Yugioh could do *something* to make card text more comprehensible. Its come up before maybe Bullet Points or colored text. But expecting Konami to somehow break down a multi effect card into a single sentence is actual insanity. 3:) "Should have given a shit about game balance" is fairly reasonable. I mean clearly they *do* care but not more then money. But given your previous "arguments" I have a feeling if I asked you what should they should change I bet YOU would go off the deep end

[@MultiStormify]

I can't believe Joey made the rookie mistake of activating a monster effect against a Tearlament player... he has much to learn

[@K_Cameron]

Lol clearly yugioh has turned into a virgin fest. Who has time or energy to learn all these complicated effects 🤣 modern cards are trash

[@theonethathungers5552]

@@K_Cameronthe card effects aren’t complicated, you’re just simple lmao. I wouldn’t be calling other people virgins when I still have the reading comprehension of the American first grader.

[@wdadwdwdwadw8604]

@@theonethathungers5552 he is right tho current Yugioh is no longer about strategy is about who gets the most broken combo first that takes like 10 damn minutes

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

​@@wdadwdwdwadw8604Not really. Combo decks aren't even the best decks right now in fact combo decks haven't been good for a while.

[@ashren5879]

@@wdadwdwdwadw8604 Actually one of the best competetive deck for the longest time was Kashtira, a deck that *can* play very low to the ground, your end board could consist of birth+unicorn+fenrir and it would take you about 10 seconds to make that.

[@alicepbg2042]

"MY turn is over. Go ahead!" - Ok that line was perfect.

[@TheChiog]

Yeah, the way he delivered was on point. You could practically hear him say "Okay, you bought yourself one turn. Now what?"

[@r3zaful]

​@@TheChiogit can meant lava golem incoming tho

[@TheNN]

@@r3zafulJust imagine if Joey had Nibiru after all that.

[@the_king_brick]

"MY turn is over.. now it's OUR turn.." 😂😂

[@Xeamless]

​@@TheNNChain rulk :3

[@Zack-ds9rs]

Kaibas dialogue is actually so accurate, "2005 called" is totally something he'd say despite Duel Monsters coming out in 2001

[@rickyl3819]

I don't think Rageki Break was a 2002 era card though.

[@zebonep6037]

​​@@rickyl3819released in 2002 in North America 😅

[@RospettoVerte]

It's because Goat is 2005. The last time Geki Break was used

[@PortCityBalrog]

Actually rageki break was used in duel links in meta decks maybe like 2-3 years ago

[@RospettoVerte]

@@PortCityBalrog >duel links

[@robertmcginty4146]

Yeah I can relate to Joey unfortunately. I played this a lot around 2005-2010 and then fell away. This is what the modern game sounds like to me now.

[@Goodiesfanful]

The game used to be so straightforward. Now you get players who never seem to stop summoning.

[@Acemancello]

This was almost perfect, but we all know that even if Kaiba was running a modern deck it would still be blue eyes themed

[@KertaDrake]

And possibly Egyptian God Slime as a backup, because he probably couldn't resist anything Obelisk either.

[@maacll4343]

kaiba would be running a chaos max otk deck for sure

[@Sx2Kirby]

I could honestly see him playing Branded since it's all dragons.

[@Jigundus]

@@Sx2KirbyKaiba would absolutely be a D-link player running a Jet engine.

[@dsdssdsddssdsdsd5094]

Blue eyes max dragon

[@KFP_ES]

Ok yeah but Joey has Pot of Greed in his deck so in the end who's REALLY winning

[@PinClockFuntime]

Kaiba shouts for Judge the moment Joey plays it.

[@ibra8096]

@@PinClockFuntimenah he makes it “fair” by playing painful choice 😂

[@ryanrcosta]

well, since pot of greed effect allows you to automatically win the duel i'd say it's joey

[@Peheal]

Chain ash

[@leonk9168]

Pot of greed probably already send to graveyard

[@DylansLapplandSimping]

I want a full anime where every character plays every gamebreaking 20minute combo deck and we'd just watch 3 episodes of a turn 1 because the character is explaining every card

[@vincentlo8693]

Imagine an FTK deck that combos off for 5 episodes and the opponent does absolutely nothing in all of them only to lose

[@DylansLapplandSimping]

@@vincentlo8693 Bishbaalkin FTK vs. Protagonist as the last duel in the show

[@r3zaful]

Konami actually already made a manga about this called ocg structure, which is being played with the exact same way as real life yugioh.

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

​@@DylansLapplandSimpingBishbalkin? Nah mind Augus FTK was a thing from 2013 and can apparently even be 40+ minutes long

[@PamellaCardoso-pp5tr]

it would be fun if it was an anime/manga where they play with meta decks, but they are allowed to have HAND TRAPS and DISRUPTIONS, which can pull the games into some really cool grinding (something that... actually happens in modern tournaments tbf)

[@Ourgoopy]

Worst part is Kaiba makes the rules and in theory the ban list this bastard pulled up with full power tear to a duel with Joey wheeler

[@ibra8096]

Nah he went easy on him. No painful choice in that whole combo

[@randomnpc3607]

​@ibra8096 It could be worse, there could have been 3 Graceful Charity's in there with a Cyber Stein for Exterio.

[@drewbabe]

@@ibra8096 yup, also I didn't hear anything about Snow in the GY (but maybe Kaiba's response to Time Wizard was going too fast for me!) Though he was definitely playing with the MD list, which was basically full power Tear Ishizu

[@darthparallax5207]

It is already canon Kaiba has Chaos Emperor Dragon and he's not afraid to use it---- ----without the errata.

[@EncIave-]

WHAT DOES IT DO?!?!

[@TIOLIOfficial]

4:30 - Modern Yu-Gi-Oh in one sentence.

[@SecretTreeFortMusic]

Had no clue this was a parody until half way through

[@esteban8471]

I like how this skit isn't necessarily insulting "Yugiboomers" or people who tell them to "get with the times" (let's be honest, Kaiba would insult Joey regardless). It's just a simple "Look how far Yugioh has evolved" joke, and it does it well. On that note, the voice acting and editing were really well done. It made the skit feel kind of immersive in a way. And I like how it replicated the 4Kids dub humor. This is definitely one of the better "Yugioh then vs now" videos in my opinion.

[@idosarts_and_krafts]

And unlike the others Mbt isn't gonna complain about them kinda being right in yugioh not being the thing we watched way back when

[@-AirKat-]

Similarly I thought this was gonna be a “modern Yugioh is bad because it’s diffrent from when I played against Kyle on the school ground in the 3rd grade” but this was hilarious

[@lifequality]

But modern yugioh is just filled with unbelievable disbalanced effects these days and the game feels like Konami just tries to milk it for money a few more years without caring about the TCG itself and where it actually came from. Doesnt help that most of the playerbase seems to be socially challenged teens and adults that arent finding their spot in society so yugioh offers them a sort of protected shelter from the irl world.

[@r3zaful]

@@lifequality Konami design the game to be an archetypal centric game, which means they are fundamentally going to be a combo based deck, board breaking archetypes like vaylantz, omega negate deck like synchron and many more. The fundamental different of playing yugioh compared to other card game is yugioh is basically 1vs1 fighting games except your move is depend on your hands and utilize your archetypal skill set to win the game, with how consistent archetypal mechanic is right now. And yes, currently Master duel have like? 20+ deck as viable option to rank up to master 1 or competing in duelist cup, that's much higher than runeterra.

[@Diamondr11Blue]

@keepitsecret-dl1pr lmao yugiboomer. You mad ur deck is bad

[@DoctorFalchion]

Was half expecting Joey to be holding out the whole time and just say "Battle Phase?" at the end.

[@superprogamer_0518]

Kaiba would just chain cryme

[@TheFatedCr0w]

He never destroyed his Axe Raider with Perlereino, so he still had a card on the field.

[@eden3669]

​@@TheFatedCr0w to be fair, theres a very quick and easy solution to that, that can also be achieved during the battle phase (...unless kaiba put all his monsters into defense)

[@SirThanksAlot9000]

@@eden3669 Exactly. Crash Axe Raider into Kitkallos and what do you know? Evenly is live! :D

[@TehFabled]

​@@SirThanksAlot9000he set 2 cards face down, so its likely cryme thats set

[@soulkibble1466]

The Threatening Roar part was golden because that's basically how I went about my time in Master Duel. Not to win, but to troll Meta Deck Players by intentionally stacking my deck with a bunch of field sweeping traps, spells and monsters and its always funny to see them crumble and forfeit when after a 5 minute long setup you just Mirror Force or Raigeki their whole set-up immediately.

[@twillij29]

The meta mindset is always to beat other meta, so they get mad whenever people play rogue or techs they never expected. As long as you're not playing stun, you're doing good work by reminding them non-meta cards exist and can ruin their day xD

[@malmarci]

if their meta setup loses to mirror force and raigeki you're probably swimming in Gold 4 lol

[@forgottenartform]

The amount of surrenders I've had when I've had necrovalley, hidden temples, and either heratic or supernaturalist on the field is wild - it's almost as though if they can't special summon they run off

[@casulscrub5978]

Raigeki into a 10k king of the skull servants les gooooooo

[@holladiewaldfee6071]

I like to watch them burn themselves to death with coffin seller, skull invitation, fatal abacus, dark curse, chain energy, dark room of nightmares, gravediggers traphole etc. Combined with Magic cylinder, dimesion wall, lava golem Marsmellon, selfdestruct ant, Mahaama, to finsh them of you can wtach them burn themselves to death on a regular basis. Most of them just keep summoning stronger monsters till they die instead of just keeping the weaker ones and stall until they could rid of my cards.

[@sashawolfson3602]

Joey is me when I returned to Yu-Gi-Oh and realized everything has been changed 😂

[@FrostReave]

It’s not like it just magically happened one day. It was a slow ramp up from 2 decades of additions. Expecting it to remain the same isn’t very reasonable

[@sashawolfson3602]

@@FrostReave Well, that does make sense

[@philhavara3330]

​@@FrostReave I'm going through the same right now and some changes and fast paste are actually pretty nice, but almost every duell being over in two rounds is just ridiculous

[@FrostReave]

@@philhavara3330 I have a good number of games where you do go past turn 2 (because people break the board but can’t actually kill) but regardless I don’t see what the difference is. The number of turns is irrelevant to me just what happens in those turns is what matters

[@shawnellesmith]

@@FrostReaveIt still feels like it takes a lot of the fun out of the game.

[@kaioken301]

Reminds me of when I looked up a tournament to see what modern YGO looked like. No lie, the video may have been a lil over 20 mins, and the guy that won the coin toss' first turn took up 19 of those mins. I was so pissed that I essentially watched someone play solitaire for 19 mins. But I was in a state of pure disbelief that the game I loved as a kid had become like this. I still play the older YGO video games now, just to remember the good times.

[@beaky8138]

Goat format (2005), Edison format (2010), Tengu format (2011) and HAT format (2014) are still popular if you ever did want to get back into PvP and were looking for a more accessible format. Heck, even Yugi/Kaiba format (2002) has its following and is surprisingly fun, especially for someone just getting started.

[@MrBlackace17]

Kaiba looking at the card to read its effect is perfect 😂

[@brianzz6443]

He's already got a one up on most metadeck players, he reads the cards effect. 😂

[@saturnusdevorans]

Thinking about Joey going for Pot of Greed and immediately getting ash'd

[@FrostReave]

Then he activated the second one because Once Per Turns didn’t exist for nearly a decade and wasn’t common until recently

[@yusheitslv100]

You're telling me Ishizu wasn't playing tear against Kaiba?

[@GraveDigger35]

Instead she had pre-erata Exchange of Spirit

[@cbbblue8348]

She was playing the ishizi miller and shuffler, but she got jumpscared by Kaiba tears

[@Merilirem]

She was, he beat her because he's playing Tear. Then he took her cards like any good Meta player.

[@yusheitslv100]

@@Merilirem so kaiba vs ishizu was a tear 0 mirror in this verse? Lol.

[@Test-mq8ih]

​@@yusheitslv100Ishizu probably play ishizu dark world danger deck instead

[@TheNN]

Honestly the way modern Yugioh has evolved, as a great man once said, "The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain," which is to say that sometimes the simplest move, can shut down the most complex of stratagems. As we see here, even an old card like Threatening Roar can stop an OTK dead in it's tracks.

[@Linmyra]

Was casually playing my ghostrick deck against an opponent with Ra disciples, even managed to get Ra on the field, used all but 100 life points for it, only to card effect Ra face down, destroy it, and attack directly.

[@VestedUTuber]

I mean, kinda? It can definitely delay an OTK. But at this point, if you can't stop the huge play _before_ it happens, you're kinda screwed. Everything these days either has built-in protection, negation or some way of coming back to the board.

[@DaughterOfDrakes]

... cope harder.

[@jameswinslow8540]

​@@Linmyrathat was lame should of let him win

[@Lokheim]

@@jameswinslow8540There is no room for mercy in a duel

[@WJen8]

As someone who played Yugioh when it first came out then stopped due to adulting and recently looked up the game this is exactly how it feels. All this unnecessary craziness for what used to be a fun back-and-forth battle between 2 buddies who just wanna play a card game with cool artwork. Imagine how convoluted Yugioh will be in 2030

[@AmitCinematicUniverse]

With that, Joey became the most relatable character in the series.

[@cognitiveAfflatus]

i appreciate both the accuracy to the anime writing, while also not treating the modern game like trash, but still accepting its issues it's almost like we could all be normal about the game for ten seconds and actually address some of the issues it has lmao

[@drewbabe]

The only issue the modern game has is that the banlist hits for Tear have been too harsh. Tear Ishizu is the most fun deck ever: despite self-mill being inherently luck-based, it was still consistent enough to almost always combo off, and the luck factor made the thrill of getting a god mill feel even better. It had the ability to dip into other archetypes that other decks wouldn't, so the deckbuilding (especially in the extra deck) had lots of opportunities to tailor for countering other Tear builds, meaning deckbuilding in the Tear 0 format wasn't stagnant at all-it was ever-evolving. The mirror match was one of the highest skill ceilings ever seen in the game, too, just because of the inherent nature of reciprocal milling meaning your biggest playmakers can turn your opponent's engine on too, so you always have to be calculating your odds of being able to deal with how many disruptions your opponent can bring out on turn 0, as well as keeping track of which tear names you've used, sometimes intentionally chainblocking with a redundant tear name just so that you guarantee you get one fuse going, not to mention the huge chain links caused by you and your opponent interrupting each other over and over with everything from Havnis, to the shufflers, to Redoer... and on MD you even got to use Snow and Spright Elf (though tbh I don't think the latter should be legal as long as Merrli and Diviner are... but it sure is a power trip, having even more disruptions and more ways to mill 8 and feel great!)

[@darthparallax5207]

No the issue is that they haven't yet printed Blue-Eyes White Dragon with the exact text of pre-errata CED. Which they should because I really want to see how gaslit the internet can REALLY get. :)

[@markjacobs3232]

The problem was, even judges at the tournaments were losing track of whose turn it was. The deck simply had too many actions and interactions and should have been excavate instead of mill. Excavate would have kept the deck t1 and mostly unbanned, but we got mill, and that became degeneracy. Also a high skill ceiling isn’t fun when it’s only one deck, that’s not healthy.

[@spicymemes7458]

It kinda sounds like you are trying to control dissent. If people don't speak up about the issues with the game, nothing changes, unless if that's your goal, then be honest about it.

[@cognitiveAfflatus]

@@spicymemes7458 maybe if you read what i said instead of making up something you think i said to get mad at you'd get closer to actually fixing something instead of just complaining

[@Benzinilinguine]

To be fair, Yugi explains what a Chain Link is, in the show, to Joey, during the episode where Rebecca duels not-Chun-Lee.

[@Courageous91]

A whole season after this duel happened.

[@Benzinilinguine]

​@@Courageous91so? It was a rule long before he explained it.

[@mehdidelteil3672]

I'm definitly in team Joey "old Yu-gi-oh !" ... Back in my time, Dark armed dragon was so powerful and everyone complain about how speedy the game had become 😅😅😅

[@KertaDrake]

The days before Elemental Heroes were wild. I remember having games that actually lasted 20+ turns of back and forth, and even decking out opponents without having any draw/discard effects other than them playing a single Pot of Greed.

[@temkin9298]

I think yugioh players are on track to become lawyers with the amount of effects they are playing with. I would say i wanna see it in some way but Ace Attorney series kinda shows what that would be like. Interrupts in mid sentence, drawing evidence and conffesion out by taking, mind gaming, rule playing, straight up supernatural powering to worn down the other side. Now i wanna see a Ace Attorney card game. ;D

[@steveohellno]

Kaiba: *Main 1 Phase process* Joey: 🕕🕦🕚🕐🕥🕧🕙🕣🕠🕢

[@MBTYuGiOh]

damn this is good

[@joaogabrieloliveira7101]

Ngl, seeing you here instantly made me imagine Kaiba going "AGIDOOO" when it got milled.

[@MeizarFarizky]

Kaiba: ...by sending Agido from my hand to the graveyard! Yugi: The GY.

[@DietKoma]

As someone who's just getting back into Yu-Gi-Oh with a random archetype (Libromancers) they thought looked cool, I felt Joey's pain

[@RedMufflerMan]

MAN I LOVE GEEK BOY

[@twillij29]

At least you're not playing a deck from the 2000s and expecting to win matches lol. Libromancers can actually be viable for climbing, but you may need to pair it with another archetype as there are too few cards for Libromancers to be consistent by itself.

[@lvl.2greyrat849]

Libromancer + mathmech is pretty good for a non meta deck honestly

[@GalickGon]

I also got into yugioh recently and have been using a Demise deck. Definitely a lot of pain not understanding a lot of newer mechanics at first 🤣

[@99099]

Definitely not a meta dexk anymore, but demise otk was actually a pretty solid deck back around 2008ish, so it could have been worse for you, e.g. elementsabers.

[@TheValiantBob]

When Kaiba was talking about performing a fusion using monsters from the graveyard as material, anyone else think "Oh man here comes the Ultimate Blue Eyes!"

[@PgoOFC]

4:39 he had been standing there explaining his plays for so long that the legs gave up sustaining his balance.

[@Ramma.H]

This is exactly how I feel trying to learn the game today

[@Johnwillson-n7v]

Yeah, I came back after a very very long hiatus...I feel like every deck needs a tutorial or something.

[@Merilirem]

@@Johnwillson-n7v When I came back at MDs release I just grabbed my Chaos cards and even the god cards then played MD until I understood.

[@KeshavKrishnan]

@@Johnwillson-n7vthey kinda do. Tear is especially complicated to pilot but some other decks are easier imo

[@r3zaful]

​@@Johnwillson-n7vproblem is with yugioh all archetype have their own mechanic and weaknesses, meant even if you play a meta deck you will still getting clapped by some random guy with hyper optimized rogue deck on ladder, master duel silent performer like evik eyes is the best example of this.

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

​@@Johnwillson-n7vThe master duel solo mode runs you through a couple of decks to help you learn them. Id recommend the Rikka one and the plunder patrol one as those decks are actually good just make sure to take the time to understand the deck though

[@waifusmith4043]

Let's just all keep in mind Kaiba's turn is from 00:30 to 4:38.... bruh lmao

[@1stCallipostle]

It's accurate.

[@idosarts_and_krafts]

Not even that long of a turn

[@zeo4481]

Man was playing FAST , too much thinking on Tear takes 7 mins minimum. Edit: the turn started at 0:56

[@Vyeruz]

no joke, 37 minutes

[@superbr0ws015]

​@idosarts_and_krafts they fast dorwarded a hellish amount of it. Could've been a lot longer if they decided to give Joey Bystials, D.D. Crow or effects that activate in grave.

[@Yusis-o7d]

Kaiba's reaction to Threatening Roar is absolute perfection. It says so much, all without saying anything. Oh and the voice acting is phenomenal! Top tier stuff!

[@IC-23]

I think we've all been kaiba here if we've ever bullied a casual deck with something that's actually competent and they get s few turns with something like threatening roar or one day of peace.

[@SomeGuyXYZ01]

I just got to this part as I was reading the comments and it was priceless 😂

[@KertaDrake]

Personally, I love it when I pull off stuff like that with my filthy casual decks. Half the time, the try-hards just forfeit thinking I'm running a stall deck and quit believing they are about to lose half an hour of their lives to do nothing.

[@johnlucas2838]

@@IC-23 Nah bruh, this game is over. I activate Messenger of Peace.

[@IC-23]

@@johnlucas2838 damn that's crazy, Accesscode/Knightmare Phoenix/Baronne/Literally any Destruction Effect to pop the back row, response?

[@mecharider8497]

Bruh I relate so much to Joey here. Like my brother in Christ are you done yet.

[@redteam6631]

The editing is genius, it comes from multiple unrelated episodes I know of. And the voice acting was just hilarious. You earned a sub. Keep up the great work.

[@WWLinkMasterX]

Haven't been into this stuff in years, and the voice acting was so good I initially had trouble figuring out if this was a parody or a comparison from the actual show.

[@Fugitive685]

Ain’t yu gi oh like 25 maybe 26 years old? Dawg it’s 10 years older than I💀

[@Fugitive685]

Still my favorite game

[@Kuribohdudalala]

Y’all joke, but this man played dimension fusion and return from a different dimension before anyone else. Kaiba was breaking the game long before tear

[@RyanAtlus]

That season was a filler arc, so the writers thought it would be nice to showcase a lot of metarelevant cards. That's why the robot dueling the kid and Rebecca play decks filled with cards and strategies that would've otherwise not been in the canon episodes.

[@Stalutes64]

Plz do another one but Joey comes back with all the modern red eyes support and thinks he is actually good now with kaiba complaining that they banned all the tearlament cards but then kaiba is playing full power Kashtira and the same thing happens again

[@donaldlivingston75]

You could tell Joey was about to get fuckin rekt by the way Kaiba said "oh yes Wheeler, MY turn is over"

[@jehuda6805]

This is what happens when a old Yugioh fan (Duel Monsters) come back to Yugioh (Speaking from experience here)

[@Theycallmetomu]

I was expecting Joey to have Nibiru for some reason.

[@ibra8096]

They always do and it’s always when you don’t have the out

[@Stalutes64]

Rullkalos negates nibiru lol 😂

[@flockinify]

@@Stalutes64 You mean Rulkallos?

[@kyle5372]

@@flockinifythank god for your clarification 😂

[@DouglasStewart99]

The voices, the usage of the US OST, 3:54-3:56, are just on *POINT!* There are people that play certain decks to keep up with the meta, and then there's me that plays certain decks because of characters he's liked in the show. *Reason I play Battlin Boxers?* Alito's my favorite Barian (Thank God we *FINALLY* got some support 2 months ago!). *Reason I wanna run Raid Raptors?* Shun/Shay was a GOAT in Arc-V for me. *Reason I wanna run Morphtronics?* Because the male twin had me sold with having a deck of Robots in Disguise.

[@knockout8157]

BROO I play anime decks almost exclusively XD I main fluffals bc I arc-v was my time and I thought he was so cool, and I also have a cyber dragon deck, a blackwing deck, and tons of others in md just because I loved the characters when I saw the show!

[@twillij29]

As a fellow anime enjoyer, I have to ask. When people say they like playing an anime archetype, do they generally mean they like playing it pure like in the anime, or they like playing it with more competitive combos/engines? E.g. Raidraptor with Phantom Knights engine, Morphtronics as a Link climb combo with Telefon loop etc.

[@DouglasStewart99]

@@twillij29 Depends on what works for you personally. For me, I want to say the latter.

[@idosarts_and_krafts]

The reason i play earth machine? ....... I just thought machina citadel was neat when i saw the structure deck And then learned of anna precisely two months later

[@seltzer666]

what do you do now that there's no more Anime for tcg

[@averylr32]

the dragoon part was perfect lmao! and honestly this perfectly shows the difference between classic and modern yugioh the game is very combo heavy now a days

[@nathangamble125]

"the clowns weren't a fetish thing, ok" Sounds like something someone who spent the last 12+ hours before this duel started, looking up Pomni; Jevil; and Fizzarolli on R34, would say. Thinking clowns are sexy wasn't weird in late 2023. This simply proves that Kaiba is up-to-date on _both_ the latest meta in both Yu-Gi-Oh, and internet culture in general.

[@theAlchemyst11]

I sympathize with Joey so much in this skit lmao. Playing Master Duel with my real life fun deck really turns into pulling teeth when faced with... I think they're called runicks? The one that banished my entire deck or whatever lmao.

[@filipvadas7602]

To be fair, *everyone* hates Runicks. Especially when they're used in a stall strategy.

[@FrostReave]

It’s not very reasonable to take a deck that’s probably a decade old at this point and expect the game to remain the same. But yes fuck Runick

[@Endershock1678]

Tbf, ANY DECK is teeth pulling against Runick.

[@LeafyPeach]

You mean one of THE most toxic decks In the history of the game? Yeah FECK that.

[@iananderson4754]

​@FrostReave for all we know he could've been running a destiny hero deck from 2 years ago. We don't know what type of deck he has

[@Millardfunderburg]

I have a feeling Kaiba's face when Threatening Roar came out is exactly how many players in master duel felt playing against my attack locking mill deck. So many blue eyes, golden chickens of ra, XYZ Zeus wiffing at burning my board, monster spamming decks, Rhongos, and loads of some very underwhelming Maxx Cs since the mill deck hardly special summoned. Might not longer play but this video gives me a glimpse of what their pain filled faces had to have looked like.

[@ibra8096]

Then he busts out the cyber stein combo board that was legal for a format

[@Millardfunderburg]

Your combo didn't exist when I was still playing, got bored and left before stuff like that came in, nice try though@@ibra8096 The biggest trouble to my deck in that combo though is Natruia Exterion which I just scoop to. But as you was allowed only 1 copy of Stein in the deck, if I managed to toss that copy into the grave before you can use it you'd be the one scooping.

[@MegaMachiOnline]

Best part is he used that card canonically

[@Millardfunderburg]

@@MegaMachiOnline I assume you mean Threatening Roar by 'That card' but yeah, felt hilarious sitting there in Master Duel watching those 10m turns be forced to hit the breaks when their attack step suddenly vanishes.

[@seanmundyphoto]

as someone just getting back into the game after only playing mostly as a kid... this feels very accurate lol

[@cEighteen]

This is easily the best "Old vs New" yugioh video on KZbin

[@Bashamo257]

"My turn is over. Now it's our turn. During your Draw Phase, I..."

[@chrissomnitz6123]

The dialogue was so spot on, especially in the intro. Also, that classic monster-shattering animation at 3:33 was so nice

[@ginkowave5829]

"You would be running the dragoon package Wheeler" I'm fucking dead

[@JarlSwagDog]

I'm telling you guys redmufflerman never misses

[@Boricua1031]

The homie Lord Jarl. atpQuan

[@JarlSwagDog]

@@Boricua1031 The homie lord antmoney :bullet_postive:

[@dreamisover9813]

This was soo good! Joey is literally when I started playing Master Duel and saw how the meta has evolved haha

[@AzureKyle]

Yeah, this is pretty accurate. I tried to come back to the game a couple years ago when they first came out with Link monsters, and my first match on YGO Pro was basically like this. I made a couple moves to set up, and then their turn begins and I just start seeing cards fly all over the place, and You Lose appeared. I don't even know wtf happened. That proceeded to happen every match I played, and I just gave up and never touched it again, with the exception of the DS 5D's games, because those are actually fun.

[@aHumanBeing97]

4:26 the card Kaiba is holding is MST. He as a modern player recognises that it won’t negate that threatening roar. He begrudgingly didn’t want to cheat fully knowing Joey doesn’t know that ruling exists.

[@professorhaystacks6606]

Not even in response to summon... in response to drawing. Freakin' hate playing against tearlaments and Labrynth because it winds up with them spending 10 minutes chaining things on the OTHER player's turn. ...Then Rah: Sphere Mode.

[@Chaosic]

Great video dude,this is very much modern Yugioh in a nutshell basically and the acting was very good.

[@Beejum]

This is exactly why I find trouble getting back into yugioh

[@max-wb6vn]

I feel like Joey when i play Yu-Gi-Oh after xyz

[@Ultriac301]

I stopped after 5Ds which was the last good season and set of cards in my opinion.

[@dragovsartcorner8618]

I literally just watched this whole video waiting for someone to finish turn 1...

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

Reminds me of when I played yugioh for the first time in 10 years and got stomped in the first round. I never played particularly well, I relied on a beating stick "strategy" that only really worked if I got lucky, so seeing a deck using a bunch of new mechanics I never heard of was interesting, to say the least.

[@BRS_Stella]

5:05 this is how ptsd is made

[@EvyDevy]

Amazing voice acting and editing. Even the scripting feels very true to the original.

[@petrie911]

I'd like to imagine that after this Yugi FTK'd Kaiba with Jeff Leonard's Exodia deck.

[@aimDiego]

Joey screaming "RU Fucking kidding me" was my exact reaction when I played a single game after like at list 5 years of not having played and exactly this shit happening

[@absoul112]

1:44 Joey, Yugi explained this to you. Or maybe that happened later.

[@roonkolos]

I feel like im listening to an extraterrestrial language or some shit

[@thepowerisyetunknown7710]

I'm just a humble little Duel links player. I already have ptsd from Orcrust and Tenyi, this scares me so much.

[@FoolishPrince]

"WE MUST FIRST DISCARD THE TOP 10 CARDS OF OUR DECK TO THE GRAVEYARD ! ! !" 🃏

[@MattwosRandomNonContent]

2:49 Obviously not. The _dragons_ were the fetish thing.

[@geminiguy6032]

Joey: Kaiba, please, just finish me off! This is somehow more agonizing than my Duel with Marik! Kaiba: Not yet, Wheeler! Not until I finish stun locking your entire board and banish every single card in your han- Tristan: Joey wins. Kaiba: What? Tristan: Time limit. Kaiba: ... Tea: Congratulations, Joey! Joey: 😴

[@Firestar4041]

Kaiba: "Its an ever evolving game, with plays and counter plays-" Tristan: "Wait really?" Yugi: "Not really. Kaiba is just smoking whatever Pegasus was smoking during duelist kingdom."

[@maxthebear7765]

2:28 Alec from TeamAPS: “They’re in the grave!”

[@Mnerd7368]

I had been playing Master Duel since the beginning and I was a 2023 Qualifiers Championship. The video is extremely accurate because Tear is such an OP deck that I only defeated three times but is ridiculously difficult to defeat a Tear deck that the beginners/novices/noobs do NOT stand a chance defeating a Tear deck. Now there is alot of OP decks that got ridiculous card affects that broke the game in my opinion. Like Maxx 'C' and several OP monsters, traps, and spells that I cannot remember cause I given up. KoMoney will never fix their damnn Yu-Gi-Oh game.

[@FLCL_rox]

I remember trying Yu-Gi-Oh again when Master Duel came out, and the only deck I ran was Millenium Eyes Restrict just so I could go "idk what mechanics you're doing and I don't wanna learn so I'm gonna just grab this one and hope it stops your effect combo"