Classical Violinists Reviewing Ben Shapiro's Violin Playing with Facts and Logic

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[@franskel9647]

Twoset makes me feel insecure about my violin playing and I don't even play violin

[@natiaron8617]

Your comment was... beautiful

[@batner]

@David Russell Yep. The dream if perfection is very real for violinists.

[@AlanHope2013]

@David Russell No student ever went to a masterclass hoping to be told they were fine. That would be death. When you stop learning, you die.

[@nictanghe98]

you should feel more secure after negative feedback becouse then you know zhats wrong anf zhat to work on.

[@thomasgalbally6568]

they com;e across as m;ean/ the sam;e type of people in/ m;usic shops that m;ake you feel in/ferior when you start tryin/g out a guitar sm;ug sn/ob-b-y there's n/ot m;uch positivity here people like this m;ade m;e n/ot wan/t to learn/ m;usic theory

[@blinkingintensifies8212]

Me: Never played Violin. Also me: Yes yes his wrist is too tense. 🧐

[@ruthii7752]

Me who hasn't played violin since middle school: mm yes very dry, too mechanical

[@swagmeisterFLEX]

Lmao

[@dopeboi13yearsago9]

this made me laugh

[@code-grammardude5974]

Lol this neeeds more likees

[@1988vuittoni]

You, me... same

[@reepicheepsfriend]

Anyone who is here to complain that they criticized Ben's playing totally missed the point. They are giving him free advice. The world of classical performance revolves around constructive criticism and advice; to anyone who has been trained this way, it is normal. Ben even said on his twitter account that he agreed with them. So you guys can relax because they are actually doing him a favor and providing something for free that most people have to pay for.

[@trickyagent127]

Yeah, i don't like the guy, but he's not shit. He has things to improve, and TwoSet was here to point them out, but it was never meant to be something like a roast

[@cheeseontoast3434]

@James Jeffrey ......ernie.....?

[@johnokamoto6762]

I think it would be fun to have Ben fly them over and give him lessons, filming before and after videos!

[@charliesaint]

@James Jeffrey what the fuck is wrong with this guy 😂

[@ipoststuff.2564]

@James Jeffrey A bit ironic

[@remember9097]

"We're getting way too technical. You guy probably don't even care at this point" Dude. If they make a 2 hour video giving a masterclass like this of course I would watch it 'till the end

[@maverickmissile801]

So true

[@antine1279]

Me too. And I don't even play an instrument!

[@puffymustash]

“Intonation doesn’t care about your feelings,” can we PLEASE get that on a shirt, I’d wear it to all my rehearsals

[@mltmanthony]

Maggie Albrecht I’m sure Ben Shapiro himself would wear that shirt. 😂😂

[@voidsabre_]

I agree, can we please get this merch

[@ShadowSpartan9x]

I will buy 5!!!

[@davidcanady356]

Cries in Swing Jazz.

[@tylerhackner9731]

We need this Merch!

[@GforceProdComp]

An Orthodox Jew was tense while playing a Catholic song.

[@carolinelevy4936]

Right??? I would never expected to hear a man in a kippah play Ave Maria. Next up...Wagner?

[@nicanornunez9787]

Was expecting the Spanish Inquisition?

[@kucingmiumiu854]

Hey man... he knows if he screws up there will be an inquisition

[@sheepshoe]

Wasn't Bach Lutheran?

[@jader838]

sheepsheep yes he was.

[@JENNY-qb3is]

I’m actually impressed. I knew Ben had been classically trained but given his career is not “concert violinist” and he probably doesn’t play every day or maybe even very often given he probably has a busy work life schedule, he sounds great.

[@ForTheForsaken]

I was going to like your comment but it's on 69 so...

[@tinalettieri]

I agree. That was a fairly easy, I'd say intermediate arrangement and he got a beautiful tone out of the instrument and expressed real emotion, not just technical excellence.

[@AmysMusic7]

Ben is clearly, barely classically trained, from a classically trained professional. He has the skill of someone who dabbles, with a good ear for intervals-hence he plays pretty well in tune. And if you vehemently disagree, then list his violin teachers. Most of us have to have a pedigree to show that we are trained correctly-though his playing is a dead giveaway as well. In the end, Ben being classically trained isn’t the point. Thank you Two-Set for your two-“sense” to help out/guide all of us in our musical journey, or enlighten us in our musical ignorance!

[@AmysMusic7]

@@tinalettieritechnical excellence? You clearly do not have a background in playing an instrument like the violin, or a very good ear to know what technical excellence is. Not appropriate to comment when we don’t know what we are looking for. Just because you like what you hear, or just because you like Ben Shapiro, doesn’t mean his playing is good violin playing.

[@tinalettieri]

@@AmysMusic7 I actually did take violin and piano and my violin teacher, a Julliard grad student ear tested me before she took me on. I have almost perfect pitch. I scored an 86 on my first National Piano Teachers (or whatever it's called) exam at the end of my first year of study. In fact, I could play by ear but I was forbidden from doing so, yes, FORBIDDEN by the technique nazis. Ben's personality has nothing to do with my understanding of music. For an amateur, he did well but I never said he was technically excellent. In fact, I said the opposite. The arrangement he played is quite simple actually and I'd put it at advanced beginner level. We all start someplace. Yehudi Menuin quit taking lessons because his teachers were insisting on unnatural body movements and postures which is what I was talking about. I took piano for adults in a college and the professor who also taught at Westminster told us, a missed note can be fixed while learning a piece but rhythm is everything. Without it, you don't have a melody. Having to go back to fix a note breaks the rhythm and anyone with an ear know they missed it and can go back and fix it once they understand the piece.

[@nicolehernandezg1]

BRO I GOT A SIMPLY PIANO AD AND THE GUY SAID "I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A REAL PIANO MAN" NOT PIANIST, NONONO, PIANO MAN

[@anisha8435]

AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE A VIOLIN PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND AAAAHHHH

[@Limbow1908]

Late reply but I’m pretty sure that was on purpose. It’s in reference to Billy Joel’s “Piano Man”

[@aceatlasska4343]

@@Limbow1908 yeah I thought that too lol

[@BubblyViolin11]

Sing me a song I'm the piano maaaaannnnnn

[@almirpontillo6163]

You kinda forgot to point out an important thing here. His wife is a doctor.

[@amyfrench8678]

I'm not sure if I've ever laughed so hard after reading a comment. I expect this when I read comments under Ben's videos but this just caught me off guard. Thanks for the laugh!

[@amorphoushuman_]

Wait i dont get it :(

[@gabeacevedo5760]

LOL

[@johnchoi4473]

@@amorphoushuman_ Ben in almost any debate mentions that his wife is a doctor. So it is a meme.

[@Kosmo999]

Ahhhh hahahahahaha

[@yumpatMEOW]

How to save money on learning the Violin: 1. Become famous. 2. Post videos of you playing the violin. 3. Twoset review and give you free classes. 4. Profit.

[@moderater2.048]

Andrew Cox well he’s also been playing since childhood

[@deearr7787]

Constructive criticism

[@ShengFink]

Quicker Den 14 his family could pay for training by one of the most famous violinists in LA. This means that not only is money not an issue but also that it was never going to be one

[@arrow_of_longing]

Instructions unclear. Ended up broke and playing on a kazoo.

[@LancesArmorStriking]

@Doctor Drake Instructions unclear, dick stuck in famous

[@poppysmic856]

I hope Ben Shapiro might watch this. This is a really genuine music lesson without any hint of vitriol, just super constructive tips for improvement and then praise where due.

[@jd0604]

He said he enjoyed it

[@Chomperc1aws]

@@jd0604 WHERE, WHEN ?????

[@marciemina]

I rewatched this episode almost 2 years later and we must appreciate the fact that everyone expected a roast and instead we attended a pretty interesting, respectful and complete masterclass

[@beestapz]

me: *is a flute player who knows nothing about string instruments and technique* twoset: he's got a lot of tension in his wrist me: *nodding* mhm, yup exactly

[@Sebzthesmooth]

Psssh flute is poop, play a good instrument like me

[@hannorasmusholtiegel6044]

@@Sebzthesmooth Cello

[@Sebzthesmooth]

@@hannorasmusholtiegel6044 psssh

[@insertcoolnamehere3374]

Ich bin dumm und habe keinen Plan, aber *y e s*

[@alanwalker4755]

Imagine not playing strings :/ contrabass gang

[@zayellaemmanuellealferez320]

No one: Brett: it's a little bit sharp Me: Ben SHARPiro

[@jamesarrendell9517]

This comment actually made me lol

[@cherryblossom3034]

Hahahahaha😂😂😂😂

[@salonii6345]

Im- ahahahahhahahaaha

[@bethanyhu1881]

A Piccolo player: “What? That sounded completely fine to me!” (if people don’t get the joke, a piccolo is really, really hard to tune.)

[@oldcowbb]

sharpiro sound like a Italian word for some kind of technique

[@richardcarr7702]

You two are professionals, critiquing an amateur. Would have been easy to smash down, yet you were classy, respectful, helpful. Nicely done!

[@rigamarooh]

Hes no amatuer just out of practice

[@Marlaina]

He played since a child, but obviously he doesn’t have time to put in 40 hours a day of practice.

[@my_cousin_mose9782]

@@rigamarooh amateur as in this isn't his profession. So he is an amateur technically and it's no dis on him.

[@earlnoli]

@@my_cousin_mose9782 yeah technically even olympic athletes are amateurs. Professional means you get paid and clearly Ben doesnt get paid professionally as a violinist. 😂

[@notthefather3919]

@@Marlaina yea, the word "amateur" has been stigmatized as unskilled, but it just mean he doesn't do it professionally.

[@SanderBakkerMusic]

I've always loved when TwoSet gives their feedback to violinists. Seeing this for instance has made me think much more consciously about the small details such as breathing before a new phrases, vibrato continuity and doing shifts while maintaining sound quality. It is really helpful tot get these tips on things that would otherwise go unnoticed. As a percussionist and now (I guess) violinist for three years, I'm not feeling that I am able to bring my musicality into my playing due to the huge difference in nature of these instruments, but TwoSet demonstrating their knowledge and sharing it can give me a huge boost in my perception of violin playing and musicality in general. I wish they'd do these kinds of tips more often!

[@gingernut6645]

No one: The mic: ah yes, after a long time, seems like it’s time for me to be the center of attention again

[@rubyzlan]

LOL came down just for your comment

[@jisoosim8498]

Andrew Kristensen it’s pretty funny

[@jisoosim8498]

Andrew Kristensen ???

[@hanee4260]

when eddy and brett started to get blurry I immediately scrolled for a comment like this xD

[@colinm9423]

LOL! Was thinking exactly the same thing during the video.

[@user-qf1ye5pu6g]

Who else wanted to hear Eddy’s version of “Ave Maria” when he started playing it?

[@Miriam-ob8tz]

Maybe with the Sibelius at 3Mil?

[@sinclari1]

Ave Maria at 2.5!

[@eduardovieira4195]

It would be a good encore for 3 mil Sibelius drop, indeed

[@natinekochan6489]

I kinda wanted to avoid hearing ave maria after hearing its eerie version 🤣 yet here i am

[@Hanfgurkenhasser]

Eh, Ave Maria is best expressed with vocals.

[@annasmith6090]

There's a video of him playing the theme to Schindler's List when he was like 13 or something. It'd be interesting to review that and see if he was less tense as a kid

[@daevaskye]

This is the sort of constructive criticism that Violin students would routinely receive in lessons so Shapiro probably doesn't mind too much.

[@silkenleather]

"Tense ... Abrupt ... Fast." Didn't expect this to be an accurate commentary on Ben's personality.

[@thepinkviolinist]

This should become merch

[@Darko807]

Nah fam, this is my performance in bed...tense...abrupt...fast

[@lemonboy5772]

Darko807 who the fuck asked

[@lemonboy5772]

Darko807 and stop liking your own comment

[@zokoravonyensloh]

I don't know the guy but it's art. You can tell a lot about a person just from their art. Like it's actually scary how much someone can tell how you are and what you feel just from looking at your art.

[@FarLyannaMai]

"We're getting way too technical" That's the best thing about this vid! So interesting to see a critique that focuses on subtle issues and musicality instead of 101-level stuff.

[@ArtificialPerson]

I agree! I wish they did more of these 😊

[@Jaasau]

I think Ben is probably good enough to avoid violin 101 stuff. So they’re doing the next level critiques.

[@drwatsonca6945]

Like figure skating if you can't play technically then you really not that good and never will be. When Ben sticks his neck out attacking others then his life is not off limits anymore then when he debates with fake information.

[@peaceofkake1085]

@@drwatsonca6945 Since you decided to get inappropriately political at the end, I'll just say that he doesn't attack anyone any harder than people on the other side of the political divide and his information is certainly not fake. Watching him destroy people on the other side in debates is quite fun to watch. Living under the side that he destroys and watching it kill our economy and society is not fun to watch. That being said and refocusing on playing an instrument, with proper critiquing and practice, he can get better if he chooses. I highly doubt that he resents receiving CONTRUCTIVE criticism which is what the video is obviously offering him.

[@Kingfishertim24]

I liked the critiques. You guys really helped me consider my own bow handling and different vibrato styles. Thanks

[@onegirlshow1387]

Man, I've loved violins since I'm a child. Listening to this, my respect for Eddie and Brett's knowledge and years and YEARS of practice just got higher. It's SO HARD to play violin how it should be, there's so much coordination and technique but ALSO a high level of sensitivity and interpretation

[@hanamiya8008]

This feels like a masterclass rather than usual "review" I like it

[@missvivaldi]

Yes! Loved it!

[@jamesstrader4063]

Probably because he can actually somewhat play and it’s not fake Chinese violin acting 😂😂

[@SalamanderMagic]

Yeah they got a chance to get into the technical details

[@hanamiya8008]

@@jamesstrader4063 yeah that makes sense!

[@caesquiv17]

I agree. I like the feedback they have. Since I’m self learning the violin, this is the kind of tips and critiques that will help me improve my sound.

[@MechaMan3451]

Lol. Not shocked that Shapiro was rushing. Have you heard him speak?

[@KenNakajima07]

What,really?didherush? ijustthinkhewaspreparing,cuz,yougottabereadytoattackthosenotesbeforethewholesonggoessouthfromthebeggining,nextsong,nextvideo,thanks.

[@gminer03]

He's a master debate champion. Used to rushing to fit time constraints.

[@skeeter5076]

@@gminer03 the majority of his "wins" are in college campuses where he can debate people who are literal college aged kids and havent had the time to develop proper arguments as well as him being able to control the flow of the "debate" and rapidly shift subjects rather than a proper debate with a moderator or judge

[@mr.pickle4847]

K Nakajima no actually suiehvdgehwnislmsrgrrnekdnbhhehhkdjkügsheiejhèbdhxbssbvçhsiwkshgéhskahgqåndnejedįsbwn Facts don’t care about your feelings

[@robertbenitez3647]

Ophelia De Beaufort Hasty generalization. You cite two examples of Shapiro doing a poor job debating and assume that he is a “rubbish debater” based on only two examples.

[@thylatrash7668]

what brett said about how "music is more about rawness than painting a facade" - that really resonated with me, very beautifully said

[@nickzema4200]

7:59 "Find a way to be less tense." I don't think Ben is capable of that!!

[@julienteychene6022]

Two Set : "Another roast video" Actually Two Set : giving professional advice and review to someone who isn't a pro and a bit too mechanical while recognizing the difficulty of some techniques and pointing the qualities and mistakes and honesty when you're at this level of playing Me : *Takes another bawl of cereals* Good video guys !

[@ayishas4385]

Yeah, they set it up like it was going to be a roast, and instead it was just a critique. I thought they were pretty fair, and I appreciated it.

[@angeladominique5846]

Lol. I was actually eating a bowl of cereals while watching this. Needed to refill my bowl half-way through.

[@ateloiv_]

This point is ironic to me, because every time TwoSet says “simmering” They burn it to a crisp (usually) But this time, they went directly to “roast” But they “simmered” the music If simmering were proffesional advice...

[@allegrovivace6806]

waitt... does that mean you cry cereals

[@sstlibertas6440]

Right? That was really wholesome

[@robertyang4365]

“He’s got a Russian bow grip” Ben Shapiro: WHAT?????

[@8LyJu8]

I mean, he is an ashkenazi jew, so is weirdly appropiate.

[@Hawks438]

😂🤣...thanks you two....that was a good laugh.

[@EliasAxelPettersson]

If people only knew how funny this is...the levels of irony (if one knows anything about Shapiro's political biases).

[@moonshade0227]

That's not surprising. Most jews are taught in russian music disciplines. While Asians are in americans and using franco-belgian bow hold.

[@ateloiv_]

... idk which bow hold i use... Everytime i get a new teacher I also get a new bow hold...

[@gratefulMOMent]

Found you guys yesterday. I appreciate your honest opinions. Thanks for not roasting him because you may or may not agree with what he says but, thanks for giving him honest and poignant suggestions. Part of classical training is being critiqued. You get used to it. I loved hearing Ben because I have heard him speak. So it’s fun to see a different side of him. It is amazing how our personalities come out through our instruments.

[@elisenguyen9861]

Welcome to the TwoSet community! :)

[@ForbiddenChocolate]

I imagine Ben Shapiro would apply the suggestions here and become even better at playing the violin. I also think, for an amateur musician who is clearly uncomfortable playing on camera, he does a really good job!

[@c.j.r.02]

He’s been playing since age 5, and learned from the fourth ranked violinist in the world. He’s like 30 some thing now, he’s probably a bit out of practice. And I don’t think he’s uncomfortable on camera considering he is a talk show host.

[@CJ-rx5fi]

Yes. Talking on camera is definitely different from playing on camera. Playing is like being naked in front of everyone. Your soul is exposed lol

[@short600]

Too bad he’s a giant racist

[@presentview8874]

@@short600 no

[@jwmusic6793]

@@short600 except if you actually watched him you would know he’s not. maybe you do and you’re just brain dead. you don’t have to like him but don’t accuse him of something he’s not

[@pokeman747]

He might have been tense and a little sharp on the intonation. But his wife is a doctor

[@WastedTalent83]

the wife is a doctor is it a meme? I never saw it around XD

[@micahbost4438]

andrea piro it’s because he always finds away to mention it 😂😂

[@thesexysnake10]

I'm so mad about how hard I laughed over this comment

[@WastedTalent83]

@@micahbost4438 lol I've seen some of Shapiro videos and I didn't noticed it^^

[@ObelixCMM]

@@WastedTalent83 You have to check out some older videos, usually related to healthcare, he is not doing it any more.

[@celinacolaco9511]

Sometimes I feel like their camera has feelings for the mic.

[@hannahkim6317]

Oml same 😂

[@karbear04]

yup

[@SJ-12345]

a love story. coming to cinemas next summer.

[@SuburbanExplorers]

Crazy that these guys are almost 30 but look like they're in their teens

[@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia]

Asian genes... 😄

[@MilkLavenderTea-fn8jw]

30 isnt old age

[@smithmusicstudies]

I found this helpful as a very tense player. And also extremely amusing. Thanks, guys!

[@chrysophylax3972]

As my orchestra teacher says, "It is better to make mistakes than to fake perfection."

[@omgvague]

I kind of hate that after I'd gotten into playing guitar and relearning theory (was a saxophonist many years ago) because I can hear ever little flaw in someone else's playing and it sometimes takes me away from the live music experience.

[@nick-dq1hh]

nephyril what a burden that is

[@BooksAndShitButNotLiterally]

for some reason I read this in a Russian accent

[@chrysophylax3972]

@@omgvague Same here. Sometimes I manage to get over it in time to enjoy the rest of the performance, but other times...

[@movimentodoscacos]

@@omgvague That must be hard tbh. I have a philosophy that the show is only good if you fuck up something lmao, that moment were you don't even care if the note is perfect because you're feeling it. But I have seem perfect shows that felt just as good, is more like a joke I tell my friends because often perfect performances sound so sterile.

[@mimimonbebe9077]

The only thing I can roast TwoSet on is that even after so many years they still don't know how to make the camera focus 😹😹

[@KF-zb6gi]

Mimì Monbebe the consistency lol

[@KF-zb6gi]

FRANSISCA NADYA the love between mic and camera became deeper as the time goes 😂

[@chanemma88]

They are Musicians. Not videographers 😂😂

[@KF-zb6gi]

Emma Chan 😂

[@MarsLos10]

Yeah, I love them but the out of focus camera gets on my nerves haha They could either hide the Mic or fix the focus to be consistent, it's so easy! 😂 they might be the only >2M channel that has focus issues😂 but they mean a lot to me, I love them :)

[@anonanon7210]

People criticising the fact you reviewed Ben are a joke. So pleased you decided to talk through his playing, as enjoyed Ben's video and enjoyed hearing the constructive comments you made- very helpful to me as I am learning to play the violin.

[@JoelEverettComposer]

Loved this! I love humor and facts and logic; Two Set doesn't care about your feelings LOL You guys are great!

[@constanzaaltamirano9269]

Am I the only one that wants to see Twoset react to their fans playing and maybe some masterclass?

[@ZoMichael-a]

Me too

[@mattstewie420]

A masterclass would be awesome

[@constanzaaltamirano9269]

@@wuzz I know, I'm just speaking about something like this, like a review but of us playing, didn't want to make it look like that the masterclass part is like refering to what they did here

[@oleyullah]

Yes.

[@maritinooben9270]

I would like that a lot. I mean if you don't do competitions or videos you kind of always get criticized by the same people and I think it would be nice to hear what other people think.

[@aro4457]

Honestly, this is the first time that their “Review” didn’t completely DESTROY the person they were “reviewing”

[@authenticbaguette6673]

オタク eventhoughhewouldhavedeserveedit

[@madonbarma2531]

@@authenticbaguette6673 im pretty sure they wouldn't dare. Lol

[@authenticbaguette6673]

Magnus Maximus ling ling insurance doesn't cover being assaulted by ben shapiro fans :P

[@madonbarma2531]

@@authenticbaguette6673 Lolol..... Nice one.... 🤣

[@supermojo9672]

They held back I guess.

[@laralovesviolins6510]

It's hard to take criticisms, but you gave some really good advice, educational tips that I need myself! Relaxing while playing is something I'm working on, too. There were so many little notations like how to improve vibrato, do better bow shifts, think about phrases, do a bit of interpretation rather than just play it by the book. Thank you for your fun and educational videos!

[@LL-ds5kl]

My daughter and I found your channel at the same time separately. She might be ending her beginning level now and she LOVES your videos. I think mostly she loves violin and humor, plus having an Asian mom. 😂 We keep forwarding each other the videos we like, I will send her this one to learn from your precious advices. You are such an inspiration. Keep it up! Thank you very much!

[@timpark02]

"Rhythms don't care about your feelings." Me, a Jazz Musician who's always playing around with the original melody: 😦

[@imcoolasheck4742]

*cries in big band*

[@theocieslik254]

Cries in jazz rhythm section

[@inlonging]

Yes but he was playing classical so that’s another story

[@user-eq2ni7qj3w]

**cries in scat singing*** waaa 😭 waapa doo bop

[@davidweiss9891]

Jazz has rhythm, eminem rap god dosen't

[@ameershehzad1080]

Me: wow that actually sounds pretty go- Twoset: meh Me: meh

[@marthaguerrero1924]

Same

[@brooklynduong9940]

Lol same

[@bluefire2550]

So true

[@a_green_cat]

truth

[@steakfries8037]

I still think it sounds pretty good. Much better than anything I could do. What really killed it for me was the tempo inconsistencies. No rushing!

[@worthmor]

For someone playing for a hobby or fun he did a great job.

[@scarcat2469]

It's crazy how much a person's character shows up in how they approach music

[@talisa222]

Music is a pure expression of the sport after all

[@twokool4skool129]

Shapiro's violin playing DESTROYED by facts and logic. Fortunately for him, his wife is a doctor.

[@n1c704]

Chris Spencer rekt

[@ItumelengS]

I am so glad someone mentioned Shapiro is married to a woman who is a doctor. Yeah

[@MrVNM1]

this should be the title of the video

[@MuhammedYaseenHarris]

What the title should have been

[@funsnailzzzz23]

His marital status has yet to be proven.

[@etc4725]

Timestamps Brett hair thing: 0:01 lol Eddys maniacal laughter: 1:10 Brett and Eddy's waiting soloist faces: 1:30 Weird faces+telepathy: 4:11 Brett's smile thats brighter than my future: 7:37 Eddy's smile thats brighter than my future: 8:00 Both smiles that are brighter than my future: 8:04 Brett's grammy worthy speech: 9:07 More eddy smiling bc for once the dude can actually play: 9:23 Brett and eddy being in sync 2.0: 9:29 Eddy musician face like 3.0: 9:36 Strange finger gestures: 9:54 Is this a smirk: 10:54 Bretts bad string crossing impersonation:11:02 Bright smiles 3.0: 12:10 Brett trying not to laugh at those broken phrases: 13:36 Twoset being precious music nerds and actually helping me w technique: 0:00 to 14:17

[@locrian8087]

Truly precious

[@tiffanyeah]

Thanks🥰

[@jojomilmil4227]

thank u for doing god's work

[@etc4725]

@@jojomilmil4227 twas my pleasure

[@sbcic2012]

I can only give you a like but you deserve an award

[@brittanyg.8644]

I just found you guys and you are so entertaining!!!! Very witty and good critique in a fun and constructive way. Love it!

[@markdub771]

I do appreciate this constructive criticism. As a new adult violin player, it is a solid reminder of what to keep an eye out for. I also like how you all didn't slam him, but merely offer opportunities for improvement. Well done.

[@catrinac.8948]

this was really impressive to actually see you guys review someone who wasn’t completely awful. it was really interesting to hear the details of violin playing and what can constitute a good sound as a non-violin player. thank you twoset for the education & entertainment!!

[@nellapenelope3240]

Yed! Good comment!

[@colinm9423]

Yeah, great comment. This was really educational. Hope they do some more with other players.

[@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia]

Yesterday, I learned the word "edutainment" and immediately thought of TwoSet, I think this is the best term that one could use to describe the type of videos they make.

[@albertberal2882]

Exactly what I thought. This guy must be so happy now to have twoset's opinion and hints about his playing!

[@FarLyannaMai]

Completely agree. Don't get me wrong, roasts of actors shredding are funny, but this video is interesting because the stuff they are pointing out is mostly stuff I haven't seen them talk much about before! It's a level above "that bow's not straight".

[@DwindleDwellandDwarf]

Can we have a "Intonation doesn't care about your feelings T-Shirt?

[@giuliabarbero2382]

Yes!!!

[@lochiness.]

@Larbitos O_o "i don't know even know" °3°

[@MT-sm5nk]

only merch item i would ever buy.

[@lochiness.]

@Larbitos O_o uhm so... I guess i cant explain it, because I'm not sure which of the two possible meanings is true ;-;

[@DwindleDwellandDwarf]

Ben Shapiro is famous for saying “Facts don’t care about your feelings” when discussing racist, homophobic and ignorant things as though he is speaking from a place of logic. They were making fun of him with his own saying with his intonation.

[@fjbill]

Former pianist here (and hopefully will be able to pick it back up in the future). I had no idea about some of the violin-playing techniques and mechanics you guys outlined in this video. Great job!!

[@z.a.4801]

This was really interesting to me because all I can judge as a pianist is sound and intonation and seeing how much other stuff there is to say is great, reminds me of my strings colegues qhen we used to do quarters, talking about so many technical things and deciding on bow direction and positions all practice long.

[@kerwinma5607]

Alternative title: When your teacher says to give constructive criticism to a person playing in class

[@babysushi953]

*and you’re the advanced kid*

[@chrysanna8896]

@@babysushi953 and you're ling ling*

[@azuraza1]

Ben: facts don’t care about your feelings! Ling Ling: rhythms don’t care about your feelings.

[@fe2661]

Solace 😂😂my favorite comment

[@MoonShadeStuff]

Really, Ben said that? Wow, imagine being Ben, thinking you're the epitome of good arguments and facts :D

[@devinm6058]

@@MoonShadeStuff Ben "Big Brain" Shapiro

[@colinm9423]

Perfect! Best comment.

[@kennethhwang3425]

MoonShadeStuff Ben Shapiro looks and talks like he’s deeply unhappy about most good things in life.

[@danielhobbyist]

Very interesting on how they tutor on technical things that I never noticed but realize that I do too. Ty Twoset

[@erwinricafort2503]

This is my first time to see your review and loved your channel. Both of you are very expressive with your violins and definitely have skill.

[@soairse3620]

Twoset: We’re getting too technical, you guys might don’t care at this point Me, a non-musician who’s just happy to learn new things: No! I need this!

[@suzanna3838]

I'm an amateur musician, but my thoughts exactly. I really like these types of episodes when they talk about the "technical" stuff!

[@coldplus1]

That's nice to see this enthusiasm from a non-musician! I thought that actually these things could be a little bit boring, but it's nice to see we're all on the se Page

[@ReCharredSigh]

There's a disturbingly lack of "Ben's wife is a doctor" in the comments

[@l_ndonmusic]

Did I tell you that his dad went to music school?

[@neocleouscomposer]

@Stephen Vojta Yeah ok, but did you know his wife is a doctor?

[@cjidk5438]

This is the comment train I was looking for 😂

[@KoruGo]

Yes, but did you know that his wife went to medical school and is *ahem* a _doctor?_

[@bramsrockhopper3377]

But you’re all ignoring something even more important. She is a *doctor* . Not just Ben’s wife, but *a doctor* . Honestly, people, do try to focus. These details are vital.

[@lizzzzzzzzzzz6095]

This was a very educational video not just for violin playing but for many instruments. I play the flute and its so hard to relax the elbows and support the flute for long periods of time without hand cramps/injuries and the critics of ending notes too abruptly instead of flowing on too the next one with good hand and breath coordination is very relatable xD You gave Ben very useful advice

[@socpuppet7584]

As a singer it’s interesting to hear this played on the violin, and hear how being tense doesn’t just affect the voice! Thanks for teaching me some cool facts I’ll be able to talk to my violinist friends better now!

[@aaronisaac9105]

Please make a hoodie saying INTONATION DOESN’T CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS!

[@Nida-tk9wl]

I SECOND THAT! #twosetviolin SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

[@danareyes-norton3347]

I thought he said rhythm doesn’t care about your feeings

[@sambenmoser1240]

@@danareyes-norton3347 he did

[@agkdjsdjkd]

pls

[@agkdjsdjkd]

Dana Reyes-Norton i think he said both, he said rhythm a bit later

[@thanks8589]

Alternative title: Twoset give Ben Shapiro a free music lesson

[@StormsandSaugeye]

Alternative alternative title: Ben Shapiros playing gets checked with FACTS and LOGIC.

[@lakshmisruthi4542]

Masterclass from twoset violin

[@lesleyvivien2876]

@@lakshmisruthi4542 Yes - another vote for masterclass.

[@Malcolm.Y]

They just did.

[@iangordon895]

Even though he’s been playing longer than either of them have been alive.

[@TheDragon160]

It is crazy how good these guys are. They can mimic bens playing only hearing it once. I dont know violin, but these guys are great. All their hard work makes it seem effortless. Wow

[@jaimymetts]

I love to see you guys give advice, it really does help💖

[@sozeytozey]

I appreciate that they’re playful with some of their criticism, serious with others, and give him credit where it’s due. That’s how you approach a controversial subject matter and keep people on your side. Well done boys. I’ve never been particularly interested in the violin, and yet I’m obsessed with these videos.

[@coma13794]

Absolutely spot on. Their ability to articulate such subtle techniques is fascinating and humbling. I grew up playing the clarinet and had to tolerate some soul crushing violin playing at the high school level. Many years later, I witnessed a professional performance and was moved to tears. It was hard to understand, objectively, why it sounded so much better than what I'd heard before. This video helped open my eyes and ears to what goes into such high level playing. You get the sense that they're just getting started, too. Amazing.

[@joaquimgianini1234]

I like how Ben Shapiro playing the violin is a controversial topic

[@wackyjacky7259]

Very well said.

[@ronpaul9172]

One billion percent agree. I love Shapiro, and love Two Set. You can tell they don't particularly like him, but they are good sports with their critique.

[@09Dragonite]

@@joaquimgianini1234 to be fair, it is hard to see past the parts of a person that you severely dislike and recognize what talents they possess outside of whatever causes you grief. I wouldn't say him playing is controversial, just that he is a highly controversial human and everything attached to him is something that many would scrutinize just because they can't stand who he is. It shows a certain amount of maturity to be able to move past that and give someone credit where it is due.

[@Hsel-lc1wt]

"when we see a bar repeated, we see an opportunity to do something with it" Me, a drummer: uh... Yeah... Edit: read the replies at your own risk lmao

[@thegloriousmorious9755]

Me playing the drums is just me angrily beating the same bars over and over again slowly getting dirges to insanity as I beat my drums to pulp

[@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia]

@@thegloriousmorious9755 After that wonderful description, I definitely want to see a video of you playing !! 😂

[@nuttynoah5342]

@Ma Pa drummers getting all the fame? Have you heard of lead singers?!

[@scipio764]

@@nuttynoah5342 My friend next to me is crying in E. Bass :v

[@nuttynoah5342]

@Ma Pa my bad

[@nicasincero]

This was a wonderful review, lots to take notes from, no note pun intended. :) Thank you!

[@annfitzgerald3767]

As a college-trained flutist and amateur pianist with a music ed degree, I can say the violin is one of the instruments with the most opportunities for error, requiring many, many hours of practice to perfect. I listened to Ben’s playing and knew that while he is an accomplished player, he is not on par with the true professionals (obviously it is not his profession). It was so great to hear these two professionals critique and explain the shortcomings in a way I could not. I’m also impressed with the civility of the comment section!

[@georgina2494]

As a pianist that is a victim of the overly tense high wrists, I can confirm that it is PAIN. Also, piano teachers give you HELL about it.

[@lifenote1943]

pff nerd

[@kpopfannoob3412]

Yes! So true and parents 🤦‍♀️🙄 😂

[@georgina2494]

KPOPFANNOOB 123 the joys, especially of having a parent that plays the same instrument as you.

[@shoshanawolfe7107]

Life Note lol wat??

[@georgina2494]

Supercell oh gosh, I’m so sorry.

[@vari1535]

His playing is definitely respectable compared to other things they've roasted

[@anyaprakash8823]

Variety of Everything reviewed*

[@alyssafoster4765]

Well he can actually play. At his skill level it’s more about minute technique

[@bluevortexpng1211]

That's a fairly low bar, I think

[@michaelak6753]

It's certainly more respectable than anything else he has put out into the world. Shouldve stuck to violin playing... just instrumental... no voice or speech needed...

[@wandren912]

Thats bcz he isnt bad

[@Love-Is-Kind]

I believe that other instructors should take a lesson from TwoSet on how to provide “constructive” criticism without destroying and crushing a person’s spirit. Thank y’all for sharing. Take care and stay healthy. 🥰🥰

[@FH-cn3mg]

You guys are always awesome. I hope Ben sees this and responds. I feel like he would hear your critique and work on it.

[@mandch5990]

he responded and tweeted about this right after this video came out months ago

[@lolalee6256]

“Intonation doesn’t care about you feelings Ben.” Nice😆

[@borisvandruff7532]

Can’t wait to see the follow-up: “Ben Shapiro ACCEPTS constructive criticism from KZbin violinists”

[@GuyMichaely]

Ben Shapiro LOGICALLY INCORPORATES newfound FACTS in to his immense knowledge base

[@lisapawlik2510]

😂🤣😂

[@SakuraMoonflower]

It'll never happen. XD

[@wolfsurvival2009]

He actually already shared the video on his Twitter feed, much to his credit! And acknowledged the truth in the criticism.

[@sluggdiddyyddidgguls]

@@wolfsurvival2009 hahahahahaha that just makes it more obvious that he is a political hack in his normal life because.. he can accept criticism and new facts in this area but he chooses not to in regard to anything else.

[@PrayerfullyBlessedMama]

Watching until the end! I’m fascinated by this video. According to his own interview recently he can improve that!

[@jamoe4802]

These guys are hilarious! They make me want to learn to play violin. And the criticism was so constructive and given with humor and with compliments as well!

[@323azteca]

They have great chemistry!

[@jessesmac]

Me, a pianist: "Wow, they're being nitpicky as hell." Also me: "Wow, that pianist's sixteenths are so uneven, the dynamics are uneven too, he's rushing ahead of the violinist, his phrasing is so dry, he . . ."

[@lizziecastricum4382]

The pianist's phrasing was generally kind of strange tbh

[@silviangeliamaypurba3436]

Welcome to two set piano roasting session 😄

[@pokeman747]

Pianist is his dad

[@OneWhoDreamsAwake]

I mean... it’s just his dad. Neither are professional musicians. They did this for fun and from what I understand, Ben doesn’t play much these days since he’s so busy with his job and family. I doubt his dad practices everyday either. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@samuelhillmusic]

Look up "David Shapiro Girl From Ipenema"

[@BassboneNelson]

Ben Shapiro when his lesson teacher says he has to play with emotion and not facts and logic:😐

[@HawkeyeRox]

even when yall are doing a joke / makin fun of the playing you both still find a way not to be rude about it or actually constructive it's really nice to see

[@amandas.6500]

I loved hearing all the feedback, great tips!

[@charlonecruz4376]

Camera: Focus on twoset👎 Focus on the mic👎👍 Focus on their violins👍👍

[@ArtificialPerson]

Lololol yeah I noticed too 😂

[@mirabelletouzard106]

Well, it's not called TwoSetVIOLIN for nothing... ^^

[@teeheebrah6584]

Lets give ben credit because he is ACTUALLY playing instead of faking it

[@HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS]

Do a lot of people fake playing the violin? I'm confused as to why we need to give him credit for being a musician. Lots of people across all professions are musicians. It's not that amazing.

[@HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS]

@Bia L you can't even spell. Maybe try crying more.

[@prankgirl9112]

@@HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS Some people definitely do some faking for KZbin vids. Which should be no surprise to anyone who has ever been on KZbin. Or the internet lol.

[@qaqbqc1005]

@@HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS for public figures (all professions across), some people tend to perfect their public images by showing how perfect they are in a lot of things. So I guess faking is not a rare thing. And when one says s/he plays an instrument, the audience might kinda assume s/he plays it well... idk... Just something I noticed people assumed around me. And imho he might more likely refer to those fake playings on TV shows in general (like in talent shows and even performances).

[@OnionYeeter]

@@HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS obr

[@jakinter2599]

I love when the microphone gets all the attention and focus of the camera XD Foggy Brett and Eddy :'3

[@cyrissiryc5126]

Wow, love the masterclass! I'm going to apply these tips... when I'm at a good enough of a level to apply these 😅 I'm still struggling to play in tune

[@safirasnh]

More time to practice? Cries in pianist while stuck in the middle of nowhere without a piano

[@nellapenelope3240]

Ohhh!! I feel for you! At least our neighbours got quarantined elsewhere, so I can sneak over and use their grand... Yay!

[@hikatenmaiafu4391]

@@nellapenelope3240 OHMYGOD 😂

[@wollve]

Nella Penelope with permission lol?

[@joseph-fernando-piano]

Oh no, my condolences! I should stop complaining about the 100-year old piano in my landlord's apartment even if it has a few buzzy notes and broken key ends...

[@topic260]

@@nellapenelope3240 lmao

[@balloonpoop]

Their critiques of Ben speak so directly to his personalty. It's very interesting to think how personality can affect the way you handle an instrument.

[@kora4185]

Yeah this is so fascinating!

[@tomato2088]

No consistency?

[@adagio7635]

@@tomato2088More like completely "factual" and lack of proper human emotions.

[@omniyambot9876]

@@adagio7635 he's actually not technical in this lol

[@ennuiii]

@@adagio7635 he's not factual tho lol, dude lies all the time "why don't people whose homes flood from climate change just sell their homes" - Ben Shapiro

[@brittanywilliams4282]

That was a very articulate and fair review. Very enjoyable.

[@PrayerfullyBlessedMama]

This video is wonderful! Such honest and respectful feedback.

[@enginerdy]

"find ways to be less tense" "that would solve A LOT of problems" Yes. Yes it would.

[@nicanornunez9787]

Yep.

[@adolfog316]

that's hilarious

[@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah]

They roasted him so hard without even knowing the extent of the burnt

[@gigachad6804]

@@AlexOrozco-Social-Pariah nah

[@MrJuicekrew]

Lol. he definitely needs to work on is 'Phrasing'...

[@ellep.6204]

As someone who doesn't play, I really appreciate how after making their points they play it themselves to really illustrate it. Made it really clear for someone without a trained ear to understand how his technique was affecting the sound.

[@car3ss]

Yep, at first I was like “well that sounds nice to me” and then when they play it again with how it could sound improved you can really notice the difference.

[@TheDragon160]

Wow, this was pretty fun to watch. I wish I could hear the way these guys hear. Great video

[@davidumusic1179]

i got the vibe that like they wanted to roast him, but he actually sounded good

[@TomMilleyMusic]

He seems like an intermediate level player more or less. Like, for someone who violin is like a secondary thing they do, he sounds fine and perfectly musical. But yeah, there's lots of room for work if he really wanted to be a great violinist.

[@Kylora2112]

And to think got his start as a violin prodigy when he was a kid...

[@TomMilleyMusic]

@@Kylora2112 From what I've seen of his playing when he was young...I wouldn't call him that. I think people tend to use that term too liberally, and often it just means a kid who's "pretty good", or good for their age. Not always, but I see it a lot

[@Kylora2112]

@@TomMilleyMusic Could be...I'm not a trained classical musician by any means, but yeah, him having a father who worked in the music industry definitely didn't hurt his prospects.

[@calebelliott147]

He also stopped playing for a long time and only just recently took it back up

[@TomMilleyMusic]

@@calebelliott147 Yeah, fair enough. And like I said, he still sounds decent

[@freyrodin1993]

“Musicians don’t exercise” My fingers: *Scream in Piano*

[@lieuleeeee]

Me: *laughs in band kid*

[@softstone6066]

The funny thing here is i imagine your fingers silently screaming

[@laurenspring1628]

My lungs, lips, and tongue: *scream in trumpet*

[@Dee-mm1bt]

My fingers scream in octaves and my lips scream in chapped

[@lauraqueentint]

me after playing something intense: SEA OF SWEAt

[@kareine4317]

I really like these technical feedback videos. Thanks.

[@wingsandash]

First time watching you guys, and I wish you were around forty years ago, when I was a child. I would've loved you as teachers!