CLEAN cable management with the J-HACK M2426

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Hey friends! Been sick FOREVER...but I have been working on KZbin stuff...the S4T approacheth...

[@TheOfficialCzex]

Glad to see you back!

[@carlos-ferreira]

Glad to see that you are ok.

[@Mr-Expose]

We missed your face Josh!! Glad to see you back again!

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Ahmed my dude!

[@Mr-Expose]

@@NotFromConcentrate Josh, right back at ya bro!

[@pmwrd]

I was contemplating, purchasing this product; but I really wanted to see it endorsed by a personality I was familiar with. Thank you Josh, I'll be looking to purchase this from J-Hack.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

He makes good stuff, all SAFE designs which is what I think is most important. Just double check the crimps on the wires as they are hand made and its a pain to get those JST connectors right.

[@p3chv0gel22]

As a Fan of big fat full Tower (Currently rocking a Fractal define 7XL) this isn't a product for me, but i think it's fascinating, what crazy products people create for those teeny, tiny Builds

[@KevinSiebert]

More J-Hack collabs

[@thomasrquintero]

Hey Joshua, good to see you again. Hope you are having a blessed advent.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

You too my friend.

[@nyuuuuuuui]

Absolutely love the idea behind M2426! My only gripe with it is that I don't like the exposed look of different-colored PCB components and onboard connectors as I prefer to have a very clean look in my builds. I've asked the creator if they'll be offering some kind of cover/shield as an add-on to make it look clean and stealthy but they stated it's not a priority for now. If I was skilled in 3D modelling I'd probably make it myself but oh well.. Here's to hoping this changes in the future, I'd definitely be a buyer then.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

What do you mean exactly, I don't understand since the PCB is all black. Thanks

[@nyuuuuuuui]

@@NotFromConcentrate Hi, sorry maybe that sounded a bit confusing. Yes the PCB itself is black, but looking at the entire package (0:27) there's white connectors, the silver/brown capacitors and shiny solder points on side, chokes on the other, the height of different componentry side-to-side is not symmetrical, it doesn't look very visually appealing in my opinion. By cover/shield I meant something like this (smallformfactor.net/wp-content/uploads/DMini.jpg - but that it also covers the top side since I think the Dynamo is exposed from the top). It could just be a simple plastic piece that would slide over the PCB with cutouts for connectors and that would make the M2426 look like a sleek uniform package rather than a populated PCB that sticks out the 24pin connection on the motherboard. Maybe I'm being a little nitpicky, I'm sure most people don't care about this, just trying to provide some feedback that could improve the product :)

[@NotFromConcentrate]

@@nyuuuuuuui Oh I gotcha, thanks. I was confused because it basically looks the same as a motherboard. Keep in mind too that you will never ever see the sides, only the top, because of how it is installed. Thanks for your comment.

[@therealhollowmellon]

He's back!

[@makingtolearn]

Very cool. This would be really sweet for a super small workstation build I'm doing- will definitely check it out!

[@jocerv43]

I find it interesting, 2 hours later and no dislikes

[@NotFromConcentrate]

The guy who normally dislikes my videos 2 second as they go up must be on vacation. xD

[@alexfelton1560]

I see he has shown up from his downvote party now... sad

[@jocerv43]

@@alexfelton1560 took em 7 hours

[@camerone397]

I'm glad I ordered one before you told everyone about it haha. Great video, it was very informative

[@NotFromConcentrate]

ty!

[@cy-one]

Same, I had one laying around at a friend in the USA for half a year now before I could be bothered to have it sent to me in Europe (at the time, J-Hack didn't ship internationally - dunno if that changed now). Friend put it into the mail yesterday... Let's see when it arrives! :D

[@MisterRorschach90]

You should design a s5 mini that has custom pcbs built in to connect power without cables. You just place the module in the right spot for your gpu and it’s already standardized for most current gen itx boards. All of the wire can be hidden in the walls of the case or sent through traces that run the length of the case. Would make for an awesome concept, and who knows, maybe you will change the way people plug computer parts in.

[@fueledbyyams]

This looks super clean. How would you get that C6 connector all the way over to the ELP from the ac-dc though?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

You hook up the c6 to the acdc, no JST involved. The new HDPLEX has long enough c6 cable for this setup but you can always make your own.

[@falangarw]

Awesome style, Josh!

[@Ironclad17]

Clever. I wonder if the dc to dc board can be rearranged a little so you don't need a bridge for the gpu power. Then again putting a male connector on a psu seems silly.

[@movax20h]

Did you explored any ATX12VO motherboards and PSU options for them yet? WIth M.2 solving majority of storage cases (especially with good heatsink on it), there is basically no need for extranal drives, or 5V or 3.3V stuff from power supply. And few remaining low current voltages can be done by mobo these days.

[@anirudhtammireddy464]

get lots of love from India

[@dangreenwood1657]

Looks interesting. Do you have to be careful with how much power you pull through it/does it have a wattage rating? I imagine that the individual cables going to it are only rated for so much power

[@NotFromConcentrate]

It has a rating of 200w total flowthrough. I don't know if there is a hard cutoff, hopefully J-H will respond. If its anything like similarish products it should throughput alot more...it just might get hot and your connectors can melt.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

I'll add that since it was designed for SFX power supplies to get rid of ATX, CPU, and SATA power cables the intent is you would be using the GPU cables supplied by your SFX PSU. But I of course use it a bit differently for the MINI with the HDPLEX setup and low powered GPUs.

[@j-hack7998]

There is a cutoff at 200W. Now you can choose to power your CPU from this board or through separate CPU power cable as most people do. Separate power cables won’t have the limit.

[@dangreenwood1657]

@@NotFromConcentrateawesome! That sounds like pretty much all you could need for everything apart from GPU and you can power that separately as you say.

[@olaf2554]

Am looking to build a Corsair One inspired case. Is there a PCIe extension cable that could connect from a vertical GPU to a horizontal motherboard. I dont think a standard PCIe extension cable would work. Link would be much appreciated.

[@nurlybekizimov3713]

I need this thing

[@supresmooth]

Okay, but what is the jacket you're wearing? Because that is cool.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Hahaha, it's actually SUPPOSED to be a thermal liner for my motorcycle jacket...but they made it too...jackety...to be used like that. It's called the Freeze-Out Warm'R and you can buy it on Revzilla.

[@SilverTurtle89]

Return of the King!

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Your too nice and I need my head to remain small form factor xD

[@moeShuaibi]

Love both of you guys.. awesome idea !! (Edit:) We need more power than 200w, when can you make a 300w one Jack ? Thank you

[@j-hack7998]

It is somewhere between concept and production ;)

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Thanks 🤗 also 300w wow what cpu are you planning on using

[@xymaryai8283]

@@NotFromConcentrate *cough 11th gen cough*

[@achannelhasnoname5182]

So can this just be used with an external 12 volt AC/DC PSU?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

It's actually for internal modular power supplies. I use the HDPLEX combo but it was designed for the Corsair SFX power supplies.

[@AraceaeFanatics]

This would be a far superior use of such a device, allowing for even smaller package combos, and the case not needing to be much wider or longer than the MB itself.

[@ryans3199]

If you're the more intrepid type, you can forgo the connector altogether and run wires straight into the GPU 6/8-pin power socket. :3 ......Really the HDPlex 400W AC-DC housing is so tight against the card it's not really possible for anything to fall out.

[@Luke-qs2cg]

do a build showing how to use this properly in a build with the 90° adapters

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Not much more to see than at 1:59 but when I do post it you know where to find it right? :)

[@NotFromConcentrate]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rquWYmOoZadqh9U It's processed! yay! If you have any questions please ask. You can email me or head to the Discord. I have links for everything (including a gallery on how this installs in the description) More videos like this in the playlists (Installation Tutorials). Peace and

[@Phynix72]

Whats the max power (watts) this little guy could handle ? Is it suitable for 5900x & 3080 ?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Its 200w. You use it for your motherboard, sata, and cpu. For most gpus you would just use the pcie cables from your power supply like you see at 1:59

[@Phynix72]

@@NotFromConcentrate thanks buddy... my bad.

[@JustElec11]

What gpu did you testfit with in this video?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

I believe the GPU in the image is a ASUS 1650 Super Phoenix.

[@KalebQi]

And there is no problem even though so many of the wires on a "24 pin" are omitted? Looks like there are only 6 total wires coming from your DC-DC to the J-H

[@NotFromConcentrate]

That's the point. It doesnt need all those wires. It just needs the 12+ and 12- asit generates the other voltages and sense onboard.

[@KalebQi]

@@NotFromConcentrate makes sense. No real concern about efficiency difference? Or any other considerations?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

@@KalebQi I'd hit up J-HACK for efficiency papers, but it should be very efficient. Keep in mind its not generating the 12v, it's just using your power supply for that. Your SSD drives aren't going to take much juice anyway and that would be the only thing using the 5v and 3.3v really. Your motherboard is going to have its own converters for things like USB. It's mostly just a fancy 24 pin cable. Thanks for your questions!

[@ExarchGaming]

Did you take down your dear linus video? I loved watching that, because I suffer through some of those same feelings myself. You had some great comments in that video.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

I wanted to keep it real. It meant alot to me and I didn't want it to be something for clicks ya know? Hang in there buddy.

[@JusticeFreedomDestin]

Will the S4F be coming back in black? I only see the Rev6 in silver

[@bananapie2198]

The S4M in black was a limited edition and it's sold out now.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

:(

[@ItsKingMyles]

is there a better way? :think:

[@alias_taken]

Hey Josh!

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Hey my dude, always nice seeing you in the comments.

[@anpr]

Do you have something that can power from single 12VDC supply ? This is to run from 12VDC battery.

[@j-hack7998]

The issue is a 12V battery is not really 12V. It can be anywhere from between 10V to 14V. So you need a buck boost converter to maintain it at 12V, and then if that 12V battery is hooked up to anything else, like inside a car, you'll also need some pretty big caps to maintain the power when you crank it or use other features. So there really isn't an automotive based DC-DC PSU for computers. So TLDR: No, there is not a good product for 12VDC batteries.

[@anpr]

@@j-hack7998 Thanks. I tried this. www.mini-box.com/M4-ATX . The last 2 units broke down within weeks in the lab :( Doesnt this means there a market for this? Can tolerate much voltage swing as SBC input voltage is wide range, 10 to 14V is no issue. Adding zener diode to clamp voltage is plausible.

[@j-hack7998]

@@anpr The market is quite limited. Most would just use an inverter rated for the needed power, and maybe a moderate capacitor for more power hold-up. It would only in a very limited situation where you need high efficiency and high density. Most people either have space for an inverter, which is more versatile, or will use a laptop. There may be a small market, but it's hard to target markets. If there is enough demand, there can be an add-on board that is more efficient and separates buck/boost functions into two hardier boards.

[@thirumalkumaran]

What’s the max power this can handle?... I.e what’s the max you we can fit with this?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Its 200w. You use it for your motherboard, sata, and cpu. For most gpus you would just use the pcie cables from your power supply like you see at 1:59

[@thirumalkumaran]

Thanks for the reply... If I have to choose between hdplex 200w combo and this, which would you recommend? I believe the combo also has a 24 pin plugin unit and an ac to dc converter..! Confused now!

[@NotFromConcentrate]

@@thirumalkumaran M2426 + Meanwell RSP200 (or similar) vs HDPLEX 200 Combo will achieve the same result in the same configuration. However the M2426 and the HDPLEX 200 DCDC are not the same thing as they can be used differently. The HDPLEX DCDC converts 19v to 12v, which is useful for running big power bricks. The M2426 just takes 12v power and spits it back out again. As far as my recommendation for your use case either will work. I like how the HDPLEX products are designed to bolt right into the MINI and they come with all the cables you need for a low power build.

[@David-ym2vk]

@@NotFromConcentrate How do you connect the data cable to this?

[@AraceaeFanatics]

You assume that everyone surfing in is going to know how to use this, and just say there's nothing more to explain. Maybe for you and some veterans that's true, but there are some of beginners looking at you thinking, 'thats all we get?'. Another follower asked you to put together a build, better explaining how this is utilized. Judging from the comment section, you didn't show enough to satisfy everyone. Thankfully though you're not a KZbinr and hopefully an actual KZbin content creator with a little more care for his or her fanbase will pick up this device and actually put forth more effort to show a more detailed use case. I don't usually dislike videos but this one gets it, and so does the arrogance that everyone surfing in understands what this product is. Hopefully the manufacturer of it will elaborate more.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

What would you like to know, Paul? Like I said I'm happy to explain or answer questions in the comments.

[@fbcpck]

Not OP, but I was wondering how the M2426 (it's read "twenty-four to six" by the way) module cut down the amount of cables / what's the drawback of using this. It seems very obvious after I write it down, but my understanding is that instead of having 5V and 3.3V regulated in (and delivered directly from) the PSU, the 5V and 3.3V power is generated from the 12V input on the M2426 module via its own voltage regulation modules. By doing so, you no longer need to connect the 5V and 3.3V rails from the PSU, reducing the number of wires by quite a lot; it's pretty clever. I'm no electrical engineer, but there seems to be no obvious downsides to this aside from adding another part that can fail, which is a given. The video does state that the module also output 5V and 3.3V, but I guess it's kinda hard to wrap around your head if you lack general understanding of… electricity/power delivery(?)

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Hi Paul. I made a video specifically for you in hopes that it gets you closer to what you wanna know. I want you to have a good day my dude! kzbin.info/www/bejne/p52ch2uqjL6eZqs (note the video I tacked on at the end is also in my playlists and in the description but I wanted to make it easy to find). If you need any help please let me know.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

@@fbcpck Yup you got it! That's all it does. Please note I have pictures of this and video in the description. I would also rely on the manufacturer's description and drawings which I also link to in the description. If you need any more help please let me know.

[@bananapie2198]

so....you going to respond or were you just trollin all along?