VIP Protection, North Hollywood Shootout, and Zone 2 Cardio Myths

Regularly scheduled Q and A for this Friday's episode..
1. Accusations of cowardice and incompetence have been hurled at the women in former President Trump's security detail, with many blaming DEI initiatives. Do the claims hold any water, and what are the complexities of VIP protection.
2. We revisit the infamous 1997 North Hollywood shootout, a harrowing 44-minute gun battle that forever changed law enforcement tactics. How would a similar event unfold today, considering advancements in police training and the pervasive influence of social media?
3. Lastly, we delve into the world of Zone 2 cardio training and the authenticity of military running cadence tracks. Is running to the beat of a sergeant's call-and-response chant a genuine practice in the Army, Navy, and Air Force?
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[@stevengrumley-uo8je]

Excellent as always. There should never be any deviation from The Standard, period. Have a Great weekend Brother, Love your content.🇺🇸

[@seaglider844]

Like your description of what matters in these organizations. I truly hope that what you say about "standards" begins to become the root principle for all organizations. This principle needs to be used in all organizations, Secret Service, Physicians, Engineering.....etc. Standards are all that matters....and it REALLY matters.

[@bobfarrell6510]

In Basic many moons ago, we would ride the cattle trucks to the range and then run back in the evening. One of the DIs figured out I had a load voice so I ended up calling cadence for the company every day on the way back. Had to suck throat lozenges at night to be ready for the next day. I loved every minute of it... I know strange

[@dennyo3992]

Andy's always a beacon of common sense in a world of people reacting emotionally. The Standard is all that matters, as long as The Standard is relevant to the job in question.

[@tomwilson1006]

FYI, females taking the physical agility test for the USSS have a full 3 minutes MORE to complete the 1.5 mile run. In other words, the protectee could possibly have to wait an EXTRA 3 minutes before the agent can shield them with their body. Imagine the VIP standing there as bullets are flying, and they’re told, “the person responsible for saving your life can’t make it until 3 minutes from now sir, so just hang out and she’ll eventually get to you.”

[@dv10478]

I think you missed the point of his comment…

[@tomwilson1006]

What I’m getting at is that the standards should be the same…..across the board…..regardless of gender.

[@tomwilson1006]

@frankfrederico4342 well yeah obviously. Just imagine your backup allowed to be 3 minutes late…..simply bcuz they’re female.

[@greenbook67]

@@tomwilson1006if that is the case the only sentence needed in the comment is the first one.

[@YdoIneedahandle869]

Just identify as female bro

[@Whiteboyactual]

dang son, Andy's looking jacked. he's looking like he's back in the teams lol. congrats on the hard work man!

[@jtfuller5624]

Just a tad more white hairs😅. Dude does looked yoked. TRT baby

[@imm0rtalitypassi0n]

Easy boys, he's a married man now.

[@MikeNYC1031]

Friday. Let’s get at this weekend everyone!!

[@GrayHat0621]

Yes we did it in the Marine Corps ALLLL THE TIME. it also helps with breathing patterns while running. My drill instructor was a marathon runner he swore by it. I still set cadence while running by myself lol.

[@ChazToz]

USMC PLC (Platoon Leader Candidate) Program 1970 - On daily three miles runs our Drill Instructor (DI) would chain smoke unfiltered Camels cigarettes while running, half the time backwards. He would light the next cigarette off the previous one, chew and shallow the paper/tobacco butt. All the time YELLING at us.

[@HEWhitney1]

C130 rollin down the strip. Recon Rangers gonna take a little trip. Stand up, buckle up, shuffle to the door. Jump on out and count to four. If that shute don't open wide, I got another one by my side. If that shute don't open round, I'll be the first one on the ground. .

[@dannyhayes664]

Noise/gunfire inoculation is included in initial selection and ongoing protection program . Attack on principal while on stage training now includes the pancake and hold tactic we saw on DJT. This tactic was utilized instead of the traditional cover, shield and evacuate response you mentioned Andy to allow the counter-sniper teams to ID and neutralize the threat before further exposure of DJT. The outer ring of protection was obviously not extended to cover the shooters platform which was identified in the initial USSS advance was a failure. The interoperability of communications was a failure. Another obvious failure was the stairs used to ascend/descend the podium/stage platform were too narrow to allow the USSS to effectively move DJT in the collapsed extraction formation causing a bottleneck to delay movement to the vehicle. The PSP CAT response was a failure. The PSP Cat should have posted around the USSS extraction vehicle before the movement of DJT began. The 2 USSS CAT (Hawk Eye) members did deploy properly to the stage. There was a delay once DJT entered the USSS extraction vehicle due to the windshield being covered in hydraulic fluid being sprayed by the crane holding up the giant American flag at the site. The spraying occurred due to gunfire by the shooter. The USSS arrival at the local hospital was a failure. The security of the hospital emergency department was identified in the USSS advance site visit and was to include USSS agents before and during DJT's rally was a failure.

[@xprettylightsx]

Secret Service technology for anti drone surveillance has been officially recognized on the record. Anti drone Denial was operational on site that day and the day before when Thomas Matthew crooks flew his drone. This technology does not allow the 2.4 GHz receiver to pair with the 2.4 GHz radio. Also, the VTX is rendered inoperable. In layman, the drone will not fly at all ! This technology spans miles around the VIP/Protectee. Director Ray said Thomas Matthew crooks flew his drone successfully 200 yards from the exact location Donald Trump was standing. How was he able to successfully operate a civilian drone?

[@DEW1957UT]

Thank you for having Mike on your last show. This is a good one too. Keep it up.

[@jamessmith-hq5mr]

Most of those "Secret Service" people weren't even Secret Service. They were DHS investigators with zero PPD training.

[@dks13827]

Oh real good !!

[@yamadog24]

I found that running with cadence helped me alot while in the NAVY. I do it to this day when i have to dig down to get up a hill. Works every time

[@davidaldridge5716]

I don’t know about you but I assume different Aroc tunes will linger in my head forever 😂😂😂 And it’s funny how often you would hear different groups Aroc’s changing it up trying to put some style on it 🤣

[@yamadog24]

@davidaldridge5716 you just took me back to Great Lakes my friend. 😆

[@jimsteinway695]

In the Air Force it was tougher than the Navy. But we too used the cadence songs including “C130 rolling down the strip” when marching to golf practice during basic training. Interestingly when I got out went to college got my engineering degree I went to work for China Lake Naval Weapons Center for 25 years

[@yamadog24]

@@jimsteinway695 😅

[@davidaldridge5716]

@@jimsteinway695 brother I’m not sure any of us guys outside of the Army or Marines should be using words like “hard” or “harder” 😂 Just being honest 🤷🏾‍♂️ **edit My guess is everyone sings that cadence while doing pt….or both the Navy and Marines do I should say

[@ofpmarine]

For the North Hollywood shootout, Larry Eugene Phillips Jr had a malfunction in his rifle, switched to a pistol, got shot in the hand. He picked up his pistol and self deleted. I remember watching it all live on TV

[@mikeshaw9785]

Yep

[@GrayHat0621]

Super proud that you answered that question the way you did on the SS. That’s a FACT JACK. YOU can train your butt off for them situations your whole life and think you’re prepared until that shit cracks off. It’s not about Female vrs Male like he stated. It’s all about the training pipeline and it’s standard. Sat motivated

[@nickjenkins1663]

In response, if she was born with a vagina. or a penis. she should be able to physically do whatever is necessary. So if HE/ SHE is 5ft 0" 120lbs HE / SHE should be able and ready to fireman carry the principal to safety. Not sexist just real. How many one eyed amputee fighter pilots do we have ???

[@jimsteinway695]

I was a student leader in the Air Force. We used the 130 rolling down the strip marching cadence back in the late 70’s

[@Jasn_Chvz]

Reasonable take. That’s why I like this foo

[@wadeharris4700]

Wendigoon has a fantastic video breaking down the Hollywood shootout

[@MontanaJim419]

Thank you!

[@zibabird]

Thank you Sir! Shared.

[@daveboon5992]

Dancing !, Your Dancing Again !!! 😳

[@TheUnitClips]

Great stuff

[@camron1501]

Thank you.

[@bjjmonster25]

Welcome to the family Jedi 🤙. Congratulations on your BLACK, great rep for 🤙. 💪🇺🇸💪. 🙏

[@tomwilson1006]

In regards to the North Hollywood shootout, 1 robber put his pistol to his head and self-eliminated himself, and the other guy had his legs shot out from under him by SWAT cops that were prone, firing under cars, and skipping rounds off the pavement. He bled out from his leg wounds before EMS arrived.

[@manhalen7046]

"self-eliminated"? Did you just create that word?😂

[@milesdeorum]

@@manhalen7046 Probably not. There's just some things you can't say on the internet anymore. Normal term for self deletion being one of them.

[@manhalen7046]

@@milesdeorum ???? Suicide, suicide, suicide, suicide, killed himself, killed himself, killed himself.

[@tomwilson1006]

As Arnold said in T2 “self-terminate.”

[@Kymberlee_W]

@@manhalen7046 I think you're correct. Some people automatically set stuff up to delete key words. I reckon it's tiktok giving us words like "Unalive". I think the worst thing the ai makes people do is to randomly delete words simply because the letters contained within a word also spell other words. Like assist. or Pedicure - I've seen them spelled as*ist or P*dicure. Addict spelled Add*ct, like wtf does THAT do? Except make words much harder for folks like me who are dyslexic. It was bad enough to have to self censor and write f*ck in the beginning and I can kind of understand but not all channels are kid friendly, nor do I expect them to be. Or need them to be. I'm an adult and accept responsibility for my own actions. I don't need others to police what I say/write but I do understand that some folks do and so accept that comment moderation probably needs to happen in some form - even if I disagree with it.

[@LudiCrust.]

If I remember right the bank robbers didn’t go down until they hit them between the armor plates they were wearing. I remember seeing one of them getting blasted by automatic fire & it didn’t have much effect.

[@jimsteinway695]

My neighbor was the watch commander on scene at the Hollywood 97 bank robbery

[@johnsilva276]

The LA issue also happened in Miami where the same happened and that’s how the 10mm was born.

[@jasonchamness7942]

If we want to submit a question, where do we send it?

[@boilerkim1530]

Did not call cadence, but absolutely sang jodys (sp?) while running. I think we did it less for cadence and more to break up the monotony of marching/running, especially in the Mississippi summer

[@ronniereyes4632]

I appreciate your take on the SS and the agents. I will also agree, my initial thoughts on the agent who couldn’t holster her firearm was to be honest - outrage. But after thought know it was the parasympathetic response and as you mention was probably the first time in a real world situation with full body armor. My second was of admiration for the female agent who saw an exposed Trump when he stood up and immediately moved in to shield with her body. The fitness standards are a 1% deviation. I couldn’t find the shooting standards but know they’re out there. I really don’t like how long they were on the dais, but now know they knew shooter was down and they were waiting on the vehicle “Hawkeye” before getting him up. Great recap.

[@dannyhayes664]

Hawkeye was the 2 man USSS CAT not the vehicle.

[@2004Kodiak]

Love your videos SHIPMATE!! Stumpf 4 President!!⚓️🍻🤘

[@L-Nino]

North Hollywood was ended by SWAT that had to come all the way across town and unknowingly drove right into the suspects line of fire. One of the swat operators hit the deck and shot the ankles and feet off of the suspect and he bled out. The other suspect, either accidentally/on purpose shot himself in the head or was hit by a patrolman’s lucky shot?

[@dontbugme7362]

The 2nd guy ate his gun

[@LK-bz9sk]

This is accurate.

[@LK-bz9sk]

@@dontbugme7362yes as he casually walked down the block a litte way away from the bank.

[@L-Nino]

@@dontbugme7362 We were shown the unedited version and that’s what we think too. But it may have been an accidental discharge? Pushed the slide release when his finger was on the trigger, while the muzzle was pointing under the chin? Possible? But I’ve seen some versions where it claimed a policeman took a wild shot and stuck the suspect in the head? less believable.

[@claytonjohn6473]

I have a question, its off topic, but wouldnt it make sense at schools to hire one security guy that has a control room with all the moniters for cams, and if theres a sign of danger. Have like in prison or at stores when mall closes and that gate drops down. Some way of containing the subject in the entry way. They even got security doors at stores. If by chance the person gets past. Have something in ceiling the security guy can taze, pepper spray, shoot, the bad guy. or even zones where as the bad guy walks into an area, something like an ied or pepper spray from the walls or ceiling. electricute the floor in that zone something. or gates that contain the bad guy in a certain hall till the cops can get there and end the bad guys theft of oxygen. at the least. some classroom doors that cant be penetrated.

[@jameshinton429]

The standards for the secret service are different for men and women. Edit: That gun fight in Hollywood was bonkers. I was a teenager living in San Diego when that happened and watched it live. Southern California in the nineties was crazy.

[@stephenalexander6721]

Smart ideas here.

[@cjapao8058]

Good morning ☀️

[@Nobody_inportant]

The 4 officers who stopped them were LAPD “D” platoon swat officers who showed up in PT clothes and used their AR’s. They got the call when they were in the gym and didn’t even take time to change. They put on their vest, helmets, and grabbed their rifles and hauled ass to the scene.

[@dannyhayes664]

yep

[@mmatrainee]

Left, right, left, right, take a trip

[@Kubose]

I will admit to also using cadence songs to get my running right sometimes. Helps me get my actual cadence up cause I tend to be a lower steps per minute (like 150-155) person with longer stride length naturally but that can nuke my knees if I'm trying to run with some winter weight on. Also I'm so stupid it helps me breathe while I run, just kinda makes everything automatic so I can autopilot my miles. I'm not a psychopath yelling out cadence at the park though, I just breathe with it lol. But yeah if I'm running zones, smartwatch makes it stupid simple, just glance at my wrist and change my effort accordingly. 100% worth it.

[@Seaneskatejitsu]

Well Mr Andy I can tell you the standard they are held to. Not let their protectee get shot. You’re welcome

[@lukamarmilic164]

If you wanna ask Andy a Question; can we ask it here or ???

[@hugomontelongo8000]

For the zone 2 thing , i have a saying i use now , . David Goggins that shit.

[@TheKaltaan]

Women are too short to fully shield a male vip(At least the ones on Trump's detail). I'd say that was the only problem that can't be fixed with proper training.

[@fxh2693]

Mah-toss-ah-ray-nu

[@kilonovx-ray9382]

I've never been one to count out the tactics of a well trained woman and I do believe someone like "Evy Poumpouras" can be a vital survival tool to have on your team. This woman was trained by secret service and continued throughout her career to stay in peak physical shape and a woman like this can coordinate tactical perfection with the environment around her as a liaison or active tier one asset. Yes a situation like this is hard to call a few women are capable but those few capable needs to be surrounded by just as equal not more bodies with less capabilities because if there was a greater threat they would have never gotten Trump out if there in one peace

[@Chertoff88]

Andy is 100% right. However i didn't see and men on scene with fupas.😅

[@mikeshaw9785]

Unless lied to the Commandeered firearms weren't used. As per Orange County Sheriff's department officer that did training with our training department in Panama at Rodman Naval station in 1997. The officers noticed their feet weren't covered well and they started shooting under cars at their feet and one fell then took effective hits the other Perp got dispatched from a head shot from Swat .

[@raymondpinsky1103]

Clint Smith -Thunder Ranch saying: Take cover. Bullets have the right of way...

[@eugenethestoner]

There’s no standards, except “which way do you vote?” Jk, at least I hope 🤔

[@donc8081]

The S.S. sniper jumped(flinch) when the first shot was fired and then let 7 more ring out before firing back. That is sad and the training is lack. Trump only alive because the shooter missed not because of the S.S.. S.S suppose to proactive not reactive.

[@44ROBOS]

i saw a female ss-agent protecting trump with her own body from bullets. isnt this literally one of the most heroic and brave thing you can do? i dont get peoples blind bigotry against women in certain fields.... like andy said: equal standarts for everyone and then let them do their job and stop hating ...

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

It's simply a fact that in at least some branches of military, for example, that standards have been lowered or tweaked for females, is it not? There are obviously many quite strong and resilient women in the world. At the end of the day, however, men and women are different. Generally speaking, the male body, bone density, etc. is better suited for carrying weight and other physical tasks. I believe women are often better at running long distances. It's weird how often the same people who like to say "trust the science" live in denial of these types of things.

[@zaffo757]

Was shot at plenty both here and in Afghanistan . It never got easy, but it was manageable.

[@MaxSand-i4n]

Tell us something we don't already know

[@richardcastellon7100]

Using the word " matriculated " good job.

[@jeffashley766]

take it easy! 😆 🤣 no let's gooooo

[@VictorMartinez-vw3gj]

Andy, if performance and standards are more important than DEI, than why bother with the DEI to begin with? The problem with the DEI is that it becomes the end goal by itself. Therefore, the DEI is counterproductive and damaging by default.

[@squatch2461]

👍🏻

[@mikelee7876]

They were getting m16s from gunshops during the shootout the cops were way over gunned

[@robertchapman6822]

Cops got the m16’s from a store/armory, not from somebody’s home

[@dannyhayes664]

yep

[@marybriggs2589]

My bother used to shoot me with his BB gun when I was young.

[@tomwilson1006]

I see you fixed your white balance Andy, your last video made your face look purple!

[@COBBADAMS]

2nd like the Amendment!!!

[@kevinhollar4293]

Somebody's thinkin about robbing a bank lol

[@Morinehtur]

Fitness standard question? I did see Judicial Watch put out a video that addressed this question with facts. Title: Different Fitness Standards For Male & Female Secret Service Agents I agree task & environment dictates need, gender is secondary. If a female agent can achieve the task then she has as turned her place on the team. The same holds true for males. There appears to be so much more that went wrong that day. This needs to be addressed and improved.

[@BackToWar100]

you have too much trust in the humans who are in law enforcement. They committed genocide in US at Waco and nothing changed ; anyone went to jail?

[@debrafisher7373]

I agree with the assessment that they kept Trump on that stage too long. And allowing him to showboat to the crowd like that was ridiculous. And yes, the female agent having trouble holstering her weapon isn't a good look but there was also a female agent on that stage the jumped right in and filled a hole in that security formation without hesitation. Is she short? Obviously. But the hole in that formation was left open (by a man btw) so it's a bit disingenuous to point at her height as a problem rather than the real issue. The point is that until we find out otherwise, those women met the same standards as the men. They deserve the same respectful criticism that the men are enjoying right now.

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

The fact that we even have to consider the idea that the standards might be tweaked or changed for females in some cases is a bad sign to me.

[@LK-bz9sk]

All agents need to be as tall or taller than the person they are protecting.

[@boblob3509]

yo keep the facial hair

[@ianthompson5678]

Seal team 6 vet: the standards are what matters. Govt jobs: standards are lower for women

[@K124Anderson]

I hope the secret service and the FBI have some "reform" before this happens again.

[@genuine_reviewer_Suvo]

I think that women should be in Military but i don't think that women should be in Navy Seals This is my opinoin Sir as 23 years old student girl from India if my opinion hurt someone i am so sorry

[@genuine_reviewer_Suvo]

Because it is the reallity of this world

[@stephbrandenburg9957]

Synthetic

[@jcar1417]

The President gets the full spectrum, A team detail, the Vice gets full spectrum BTeam, Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton do not get the same coverage, not even close , so to expect 6’5” 250 agents only to cover Trump is just plain ridiculous. So unless you want to pay more taxes to recruit more agents to give more coverage to all the former presidents you are going to get what you get. And for all those keyboard warriors all you have to do is apply to the secret service, past the physical,psychological and the back ground checks and you too can become a human shield.

[@TiesOfZip]

Changing the statement from “women” to “detail” is a little disingenuous in this particular situation only because in all the video evidence, pictures, etc… it doesn’t appear the men in the detail did anything untoward. While the women certainly seem incapable of performing in that environment. But that’s just from what we’ve seen, so who knows what the whole story is. Because we’ll certainly never get the whole, accurate story.

[@christiancook5738]

Put the p4p woman ufc fighter vs p4p man ufc fighter. Or equalize it however you like. The male wins 10/10 times. There is obviously a difference in capability, and maybe a bullet doesn’t care but handling other men physically is obviously a big deal where women fall short on average and at the extreme