Clem stunned by this new MASS MUTA Strategy! StarCraft 2

[@ingeniousclown]

You need to add the Jesse Pinkman "HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT" line to your soundboard for those creep tumor snipes.

[@nukeacitrus]

That "Scream when the queen injects it" line was smooth. Kudos.

[@Seeker265729]

in a good way xD

[@SoulWhite]

Took me a second to digest it, lol. Winter is the best.

[@watergood664]

In the hypothetical world where there is a Dronely Fans, there must also be a Probr.

[@NyxChild]

Could there also be a P.O.S.C.V.?

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

A nexus could be considered a... probehub

[@ChannelMiner]

I am offended.

[@ExecutorElassus]

Hoo boy, this is going to be interesting. Last time, Rogue bullied Clem with mass Lurkers covered by Overseers, and Clem said later that Liberators should solve the problem. Will Clem's Liberators solve the problem? And if they do, will Rogue come up with a whole bunch of _new_ problems, and make them Clem's problems? I don't know, but I'm excited to find out on this, the _most_ professional StarCraft 2.

[@PJOZeus]

As much as Rogue is an awesome player, mass overseer is a worrying meta

[@BoxCox]

​@@PJOZeus Every meta that works against terrans is a worrying meta for terrans.

[@SelfSain]

Good Ol Starcraft News

[@PJOZeus]

@@BoxCox Thankfully, not a terran player

[@robertbakarcic8159]

O❤❤ddx g❤😂😅😊

[@jessejames5452]

lol the marine flies in the camera at 6:30 from the siege slam

[@ZatralTMF]

I love the water maps for this reason

[@broome090]

@@jessejames5452 friendly fire is a zergs best friend 🤣

[@Raptanax]

Zerg needs better anti-air options. How about a hive-tech upgrade that lets queens fly?

[@ShowstarterMike]

As a Canadian who knows multiple people who leave their doors unlocked (while home and awake) I didn't think I'd feel like this level of seen today.

[@trueflamexp7297]

For sure East Coaster?

[@ZatralTMF]

next PTR patch: Terran gets swarm missiles on their missile turrets, also hits shielded ground enemies, salvages for 1% more per enemy killed.

[@LucianDevine]

Only 1%? Pfft.

[@alltat]

That's ridiculous. Everyone knows that it's ghosts that are supposed to counter everything. Every other unit is optional. If mutalisk rushes are a problem, just make the ghost academy cost nothing and build instantly.

[@LucianDevine]

@@alltat Just free though? Shouldn't you get paid for building it?

[@chloesmith4065]

"EMP now drains energy of high Templar in warp prisms"

[@LucianDevine]

@@chloesmith4065 And their shields plus half their health to keep it a buck.

[@gustavomolinari7522]

02:57, when after a loooooooonnnng time without anything interesting, you really get some nostalgia and excitement!

[@ayds8347]

"Flying Queens don't exist in SC2" Brenda at 13:54 Thanks again for the amazing commentary Winter!

[@Kyle-k3v4e]

not a queen

[@Banditism]

man i really like winters quips because thats about 80% of the reason i watch him but MAN this one is just perfection 6 minutes in and im laughing all over the place

[@urazoktay7940]

Amazing video, great series. Thank you WinterStarcraft!

[@Papada00]

Winter, you need to create a name for the reaper. Can't have only Brenda. We need to know the name of the creep invaders too.

[@malaysianman5941]

43:17 "If he can force a fart..." - WinterStarCraft

[@georgeromaniajr.2680]

According to my KZbin gaming recap, I’m top 0.1% of WinterStarcraft fans. Very proud of

[@GoncaloNeves-ul8zl]

Haven´t played SC2 in literal YEARS but I still love your casts!

[@mistert9144]

Point-defense tanks are oppressive. Reduce or nullify the damage against moving units just as lurkers and disruptors do.

[@MarsStarcruiser]

I think you mean ‘Hit-scan’ but yeah, a delay would be nice

[@elgar7252]

Yes, we love giving the balance department a reason to make Ghosts stronger because late game options are even more limited... /s

[@EmilioNaCl]

The diplomatic solution part made me think about a changeling upgrade to turn into sexy marines 10/10.

[@financialliteracy8204]

The "likes" begging puns are always a treat! XD

[@KENTOSI]

Man those were some fun games to watch!!

[@Black_Sight]

Man, the dronelyfans joke caught me off guard 😂

[@pauloafonso5808]

like deserved just from that smooth transition into asking for it

[@ThomasReaverThomasGil]

I guess I'm showing my age. I AM THE PERSON THAT 2 BASE MUTA RUSHES IN 2024, I was the master of 1 base all ins in broodwar. Starcraft 2, I'm working on the 2 base all ins. Seems like when I attack at 4 mins - 5:30 minsm everyone has 3 cc or nexi and zero army. Like bro, its been 6 minutes, make a unit xD

[@Varox24]

It looks like my day just got a little, bit, better!

[@NOTNOTJON]

You continue to put a smile on my face with your shameless antics of getting me to like and maybe even subscribing.

[@guibettio578]

6:30: that human arm flying in the camera's direction after the marine has been shot by its "friendly" tank, what a picture!! And mass muta? They are just the best throwing a game! Worse x terran. Acctually surprised ho Rogue used them maninly as a distraction, to keep Clem away of harrasing zerg´s bases. Very nice cast!

[@palos537]

Can you please inform if its pre/post patch in the beginning?

[@rjbvoices5909]

Loudest blink caught on the mic. Love your stuff, and I never even play this game.

[@michaelminugh5357]

Why do Zergs even try that optimistic creep-tumor vs Clem? Surely it must be better to just wait a little bit, place it when it's safer, not to mention place it on the ramp to get more creep & vision of the base?

[@laszlokovacs7411]

"DRONELY FANS" - I'm dying :))

[@kobragangbit]

extra funny episode

[@mattcat83]

If BC's were also immune to abduct, would you see a lot more of them in TvZ?

[@MarsStarcruiser]

It’s not about casters per say but rather the low acceleration and 2.62 speed that makes it hard for BC’s to respond to harass and base defense and/or shifty fronts at this level. Can’t buff them either or every TvZ would instantly devolve into a base trade. They almost push that already at their current strength if not for abduct/neural, because BC’s trade extremely well offensively as is.

[@jessejames5452]

Oh yeah, let’s get it!

[@kleptothief]

I wish I could subscribe a 2nd time just for the dronely fans comment. Thank you for the entertainment winter. Never change.

[@famouscharactersplay4298]

Day 100: My last day of commenting. It feels like it was yesterday I started. Thank you for being with me in this trip it means a lot to me. But come together everyone like this comment to tell winter that WE WANT OUR BRENDA T SHIRTS!!! "GET OFF MY CREEP!!!!!!!"

[@JD-wu5pf]

lil bro thinks he's the main character lmao

[@elgar7252]

@@JD-wu5pf he got more likes than you so you're more of an NPC than he is

[@JD-wu5pf]

@@elgar7252 Oh man, he got more LIKES!? Than me??? Fuck, are you sure? I don't think I'll ever be able to emotionally recover from this oh god oh fuck oh man Are you actually in middle school?

[@TwinkleWhiteSeal]

12:44 Lurker got yeeted

[@SFCarlosb]

I don't know why I laughed out loud with, "will Clem continue to upset everyone who doesn't like Terran?" . Bruh, you have the funniest commentary.

[@N1NJ4P1R4T3]

Ghosts are just the biggest buzzkill

[@tylerholbrook8634]

If this was the new patch, I feel like that last game would have gone very differently. Especially the last few ultra pushes

[@sseeaall]

How you counter ghosts as a zerg ? lots of lings ?

[@Fissiccisst1]

So glad they're nerfing Ultralisk speed in the upcoming patch. They were almost able to attack the terran here. Really need to make sure that doesn't get out of hand.

[@acc85us]

Auto like, great commentary as always 🙂

[@Alloran]

Are 7 minute hives the standard now? Rogue was consistently getting fast hive tech and Clem didn't appear to have the ability to stop it, even on a pretty conservative three base with 2/2 starting after the hive does. Have to give Clem credit, he's pretty ridiculous in the late game, Rogue was firing on all cylinders (except for the Ultras, Idra's wisdom prevails).

[@fruz1378]

Who you gonna call, Rogue ? You already had me there ^^

[@Pyriin]

Amazing, Rogue is now my fav zerg Join my personal rank along with Gumiho and Astrea

[@noartist4818]

@6:27 you can watch a marine's arm fly into the camera.

[@bring-out]

How many new, insane and illegal strategies are there per day? I'm no expert but I'm impressed! Keep it coming!

[@rumar4u]

just got out of work - Im always down to see Rogue against any Terran and deserves a like

[@baileyumbel]

You know I’ve never played a game of StarCraft ever but I’ve watched two of your videos a day during work for like 5 months and feel like I have a at least gold level of knowledge

[@Terracronz]

Lmao, without ever playing a game you currently have bronze mechanics

[@mirrorimage2866]

don't underestimate the mechanical part of the game.

[@6ixpool520]

@@Terracronz He did specifically say gold level KNOWLEDGE. And there isn't bronze anymore so...

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

Pls for the love of god make ultralisk immune to snipe.

[@sashisasj3850]

please for the love of god negate the pull ability on massive units. How does a flying unit pull a target that weights 50 times more then the unit itself? Immersion breaking. No sence.

[@Zergling.]

@@sashisasj3850 That already was done with the mothership so? i know you can think of other things. And i will say they should not be imumne, i think we can test if instead they take only 50% or 80% of the snipe damage might work.

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

@@sashisasj3850 at least a silly flying bug no longer pulls an entire floating city. Still bullshit with the carriers but oh well..

[@jdKingg_]

@@sashisasj3850 since when this game makes sense from physics perspective.

[@andreewert6576]

and/or anything buried.

[@brianmcnicol3352]

Yes! Overseer siege mode patch please. Ram the medivacs.

[@cathulionetharn5139]

Thank You Om nom nom

[@tomshines5389]

How did Rogue lose game 1? Can anyone say Terran isn't overpowered? Not in the MEME sense of the word like everyone uses it, but just blatantly overpowered!

[@nathanbennett1735]

Pre-patch game. Post patch will have higher ghost supply

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

Well, as a Zerg, people have been saying that same thing about Serral for years. “It’s not Zerg, is Serral” was our answer. However Zerg got nerfs as a result. Banelings, infestors, broodlords are way less powerful now. Terran is getting surface nerfs (ghost supply nerf is not enough) and side buffs (old cyclone, immortal nerf, ultra speed nerf).

[@Bynnny]

Because rogue played way worse than clem the entire game after the early zergling attacks, just look at the units lost tab before ghosts ever got into a fight. throwing banelings into marauders, forgetting adrenal glands while staying on ling bane hydra on hive tech, making 20 overseers while hes still at 150 supply. getting an early advantage doesnt mean you automatically win if you cant kill your opponent.

[@elgar7252]

@@enriquegarciacota3914 This guy gets it. A Terran finally wins something instead of it being another Zerg World Champion 7 out of the last 9 (would have been 8 if Serral won) years and everyone is immediately screaming omg terran omg OP.

[@elgar7252]

The simple answer... Rogue played very poorly in the latter end. Zerg thrives on overwhelming despite cost ineffectiveness - by smashing through and doing huge amounts of instant damage, and then having enough reinforcements or left-over army to finish off what's left. But you CANNOT be losing a bunch of Lurkers for free like at 19:50 (for example, there were multiple moments) by being mispositioned without detection.

[@Kasperring]

I'm trerrible at SC, always have been so here's a dumb pvm question about pvp...Why do they never repair their tanks and thors and so on..? I always wonder why they send them in with 20% life left..?

[@TheGrindIsReal2023]

I love rogue so much. My favorite zerg rn. If only sos was still good.....

[@saviosoares2212]

Damn Winter, you're getting too good... had to give the like and the respects after "Dronly Fans, like and subscribe"

[@WhoTheLoL]

I think Snipe shouldn't work on burrowed units. Terran has plenty of answers to Lurkers (Libs, Banshees, Tanks, Yamato, Thor, Nuke) and Ultras (Libs, Marauders, Thors, Banshees, Mines) methinks. The "ghost counters every single zerg unit bigger than a zergling" dynamic is stupid.

[@TheHalogen131]

Thors will get shredded by Lurkers, Banshees are made of paper and can easily get killed by Hydralisks, Yamato has a minute-long cooldown and is attached to a unit, that not only costs as much, as 2 Lurkers, but also can get abducted, mind-controlled, or killed by aforementioned Hydralisks. BC's also take a very long time to build, and are blocking the queue for Medivacs, Liberators and Vikings (should the Zerg go for Brood Lords). Nukes are only zoning tools, no pro will ever get hit by them, unless they're very unlucky. Banshees are useless vs Ultralisks, they deal damage too slowly and cost too much. Mines won't target the same unit unless ordered to and you need 5 to kill one Ultralisk, they also are on a longer cooldown, than Ultralisk build time. Also, if Steady Targeting didn't work on burrowed units, the counter would be to just burrow your units as soon, as you see the line, completely invalidating the ability. I agree, that Ghosts are overpowered, but unfortunately, heavily nerfing them would require other things to be heavily buffed. StarCraft basically painted itself into a corner with Ghosts, Queens and Warp Gates.

[@slyshinable]

Those are all not very good answers to lurkers other than libs and maybe tanks. The rest aren't really high level tier late game army for pro players.

[@alltat]

@@TheHalogen131 Those are reasons to buff other units, not reasons to have ghosts continue to be the counter to every zerg unit.

[@Madgie125]

Yea, terran is so OP that on pro lvl zerg has biggest win rate in tournaments and on semi-pro lvl like 50% of grandmasters are protoss

[@Terracronz]

The “this counters that” argument always neglects unit compositions. I would argue that based on zergs ability to switch compositions between remaxes, that the other races need a unit like the ghost which is good against everything Zerg has. The proposed balance adjustment is to make it so you have 2/3 as many ghosts in your endgame composition, so it’ll be like 15 or less ghosts instead of 20+

[@chrisorgovan4946]

This video needs 1,467 likes Edit: I was off by 1 like (this time).

[@pitecusH]

Just three more episodes untill one thousand four hundred and nice likes are begged for.

[@MntG1]

65 scv ? wtf is wrong with sc2 make limit at 220

[@sashisasj3850]

Years later and I still dont understand why can zeg upduct massive units? Justify it to me. It counters thors and the massive ship that terran has too much. I understand slightly pulling a few yards because of the mass, but comepletely pulling it like its a metavac is so stupid and immersion breaking.

[@MarsStarcruiser]

It’s compensation for a greatly nerf’ed zerg from the lore. Still not sure why mothership got introduced and not leviathan, which would have likely had that ability(AoE version too) instead of viper. Alternatively, brutalisk(or even hunter-killers) could have been introduced to counter enemy massives of other races, but all zerg got was viper and ravager.😅

[@H4NGM4NDVD]

22:27 no thanks i'll walk

[@sidewinderam9m]

I think we need a queen named Lois....like family guy Lois

[@josephhines529]

"like waking up with wet socks" how did you know bro?!?!?

[@Patrick-ng1vg]

"Changeling switch" is hilarious and you deserve props for that

[@bothpinkysbroken]

Nice👍

[@kibateo]

the only thing about the mass muta that stunned clem is how bad it was

[@haxha]

LET"S Gooooo

[@miza6]

Dang I was about so start work, welp. Jimmmmmmmy

[@mikepias5849]

Computer tech has advanced so much in the last 30 years. Why still a cap on number of units in the game?

[@Twiixq]

Sc2 is running on an "old system", not any upgrab since years to make it work properly with recent hardware, so even if you run sc2 with a 10000€ 2024 computer you can still have problems with an overwhelming number of units.

[@chailking3931]

I'll always click when "Mutas" are in the title.

[@Greenlink01]

CLEM!

[@mkong3]

Mootalisks!!!

[@matthewclark7955]

Im sorry wtf.. 😂😂😂 terran is so silly.

[@WastedTalent83]

im always amazed by pro players not using infestors.

[@devingaviria6389]

love the same tired jokes over and over

[@mathewsmith8073]

Surely your about to get into the 1500 likes...? 🤷

[@Raymondstu]

Rogue actually could of won if he stayed in game 1 even with all those horrible engagements and being massively behind on upgrades for most the mid-late game

[@min009]

First Bryun, the. French Bryun.

[@christophercoates3431]

Perfect for breakfast… let’s go.

[@bikehikefishrepeat1486]

Dronely fans hahahahaha I love it!

[@MsHojat]

Seems like Rogue quit too early in the first game.

[@brianberchiolli3448]

We love you winter keep bringing us awesome videos!!

[@dustinkurtz9132]

The Clem

[@ARR0WM4N]

IF you dont like and sub this channel, the baby dolphin gets it. you've been warned.

[@stripes8812]

@5:35 Bruh wat

[@WisdomsWind]

How on earth Clem has won the 1st? Achieved nothing with his early aggression, lost 9 scvs, forgot combat shield. Still won. Tired of seeing games where "Terran did almost nothing right and Zerg did a lot correct" and Terran wins. Ghosts eating lurker shots and ultras slashes like they are nothing. That's ridiculous.

[@1389Chopin]

Bruh - in a good way when the queen i injects it

[@ivancolesnic]

The siege tank marine bait combo is just stupid. No other race has the same engagement/disengagement benefit. You barely ever lose a unit and kill enemy units. What other SC2 dynamic allows that? Can you tap and leave like that with any other race? Engagements can cost nothing for a Terran and no other race can engage and it cost nothing.

[@matrion15]

Likud Clam

[@huughr]

So mootas might work because they are so bad no one expect them. Something ain't right there :p

[@xIcarus227]

That's basically what Z has been doing the past year, hilarious strats like multi-nydus or changeling spam, because they have no answer to the ghost.

[@drigz206]

Or will you upset me? Like like like like like like like like the video!

[@sciWraith]

Look, I love ya winter so I'll happily like and subscribe, but I am _not_ checking out your dronely fans

[@Void170]

serral needs to be more agreesive i guess

[@JCMiniPainting]

Damn, Brenda is getting savage these days. Someone get her off the internet.

[@Golgamoth]

I've been here for multiples. But who else is waiting around for 1469 likes?

[@umrete]

everybody knows terrans don't have souls...

[@atifarshad7624]

Let the Terran hate flow through you

[@umrete]

@@atifarshad7624 o7

[@darkxealotblackblade6248]

If you have seen 1 terran game you have seen em all...same shit every game reaper hellion early game into mass marine dropship that gets a little tank support into OP ghost nonsense...and if they try to counter the most ridiculous unit in the game they get liberatored...terran eeds to be fixed they are so far beyond predictable but because of how crazy overpowered having ranged units as starting units is. It doesnt matter how repetative they are.

[@soulofadventure2193]

DronelyFans :D

[@patrickstagz4699]

Is Jimmy camera shy or something?