Cleopatra And The Shield Of Racism

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The Movie Cynic

The Movie Cynic

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@ssrmy1782
@ssrmy1782 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine the amount of entitlement & shamelessness required to plan, create and release the theft and cultural appropriation of another culture's history -- and then play victim and accuse them of racism for defending their own heritage. It's truly sickening
@moshe4787
@moshe4787 Жыл бұрын
SMH LOL This comment is very funny and hypocritical at the same time when there are western museums with culturally appropriated(stolen) artifacts and history not to mention the mummies of desecrated tombs but there is absolutely no outrage from these "modern" Egyptians nor is there an attempt by these western(appropriators and/or thieves) to return this Egyptian culture and history to Egypt or to return these mummies back to their resting place. This selective outrage is the sickest, sanctimonious thing I ever seen before in my life.
@GeraltofRivia22
@GeraltofRivia22 Жыл бұрын
​@@moshe4787 seethe lol
@talesofgore9424
@talesofgore9424 Жыл бұрын
@@moshe4787 "This comment is very funny and hypocritical at the same time when there are western museums with culturally appropriated(stolen) artifacts and history" Yep and none of that shit would exist anymore if it was left in the hands of the people that created it. Sucks to suck, cope. You're butthurt that your own standards are being used against you after 10 years of attacking white kids for having dreadlocks and it's hilarious.
@captainohcaptain9588
@captainohcaptain9588 Жыл бұрын
​​@@moshe4787 maybe read a dictionary and look up cultural appropriation you racist...Cultural appropriation is the inappropriate or unacknowledged adoption of an element or elements of one culture or identity by members of another culture or identity. Museums aren't saying "look at this mummy from Dorset" you clown but this racist culture vulture claiming Cleopatra was black or princess Charlotte as black or making Anne Boleyn black is cultural appropriation... But you're probably just an ignorant racist so it's understandable your stupidity
@paxman0007
@paxman0007 Жыл бұрын
​@@moshe4787they're physically in the wrong place, but no one is denying their origin and trying to appropriate them, I don't see an explanation on Aztec artifacts on British museums claiming that it doesn't matter what you were told at the school, these artifacts are British, and you are racist if you do not agree lol apples and oranges dude
@chrisbrunette9495
@chrisbrunette9495 Жыл бұрын
Doing something racist while claiming to be the victim of racism is par for the course these days 🤦‍♂️
@mattjindrak
@mattjindrak Жыл бұрын
We're all just assholes trying to pretend we're not assholes and that we're better than the REAL assholes. Humans are fucking dumb.
@hvyduty1220
@hvyduty1220 Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@kaizokujimbei143
@kaizokujimbei143 Жыл бұрын
They accuse you of that which they themselves do or want to do. Ans they aren't sorry for being evil. They are sorry that they got caught being evil.
@thaelon5514
@thaelon5514 Жыл бұрын
So fucking true. Fuck the modern racist woke retards.
@jimstoner6884
@jimstoner6884 Жыл бұрын
If using a black actress to play Cleopatra is racist, what is using a white actor to play Jesus? A right?
@nont18411
@nont18411 Жыл бұрын
Cleopatra did the impossible. It managed to get worse reviews than Velma.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what are they going to do next, the score can't physically go lower than this
@t3rr411
@t3rr411 Жыл бұрын
​@Marco Genovesi they could do helena of troy dirty like this, but i don't think netflix could shoot another disaster without another country mad at them
@andyst4750
@andyst4750 Жыл бұрын
Dylan is the upcoming challenger.
@hafirenggayuda
@hafirenggayuda Жыл бұрын
Now they already made Egypt angry, I'm sure they will target another country for the next "prank". Like making a "Latinx" documentary
@49ersrules32
@49ersrules32 Жыл бұрын
It's a personal challenge for Hollywood right now how woke can they go even if it hurts and god does it hurt
@suenzhong7891
@suenzhong7891 Жыл бұрын
Egyptians: Cleopatra was Macedonian Greek. Greeks: Cleopatra was Macedonian Greek. Historians: Cleopatra was Macedonian Greek. Netflix Cleopatra team: Nah she wasn't
@daisyfish-fn4js
@daisyfish-fn4js Жыл бұрын
Netflix: my gran said she was black so she was... okay.
@wherezthebeef
@wherezthebeef Жыл бұрын
Adherence to Woke Dogma and racial pandering supercede all other considerations. This entire production is just an obscenity.
@David-ox7ps
@David-ox7ps Жыл бұрын
As a black brit I support the actress. Cleopatra is one if the earliest examples of multi-culturism. To the Egyptians she was depicted as Isis, to the Romans she was depicted as Venus. The white statues have long lost their colour. We all know you can have mixed heritage, the actress herself is mixed and probably is the right complexion, even as a Greek Cleopatra would not have been lilly white, let alone with an Egyptian grandmother!
@suenzhong7891
@suenzhong7891 Жыл бұрын
@@David-ox7ps @David-ox7ps We have historical evidence that she was a Macedonian Greek and that her family was obsessed with blood 'purity' to the point they encouraged incestuous marriages (Cleopatra herself was married to two of her brothers before her affair with Caesar). It is highly unlikely that Cleopatra's grandmother was Egyptian but in the event that she was Cleopatra still wouldn't have had dark skin because native Egyptians aren't of Nubian descent.
@David-ox7ps
@David-ox7ps Жыл бұрын
@@suenzhong7891 Yes she was of Greek origin, but Cleopatra's father was Ptolemy XII, but he was illegitimate, his mother is not recorded. Cleopatra became Pharaoh upon his death. There is no definitive record of her mother or Grandmother, even if some historians say her mother was Cleopatra V. Egyptologist Sally-Ann Ashton who worked on the Netflix shows states, "Cleopatra ruled in Egypt long before the Arab settlement in North Africa", if the maternal side of her family were indigenous women, they would've been African, and this should be reflected in contemporary representations of Cleopatra".
@temwananinkana3419
@temwananinkana3419 Жыл бұрын
This is not a docu series. Its a work of fiction concived from malice, juvenile , insecurity, and the lack of self worth these people have in their own lives.
@respectdawildo_danjones508
@respectdawildo_danjones508 Жыл бұрын
That’s true. They hate themselves and try and change their environment to make themselves feel better and worthy, but obviously that won’t fix anything
@SB-129
@SB-129 Жыл бұрын
And lack of hair, lol.
@temwananinkana3419
@temwananinkana3419 Жыл бұрын
@@SB-129 omg , u just finish nailin the coffin shut 😂😂😂😂
@vertigo2894
@vertigo2894 Жыл бұрын
Everything you all are saying is true, they are rewriting history but modern day Egypt is the most racist country on earth. Both things can be true.
@byeebitch
@byeebitch Жыл бұрын
@@SB-129 Omfg, like they all wear wigs anyway! Why doesn't Jada wear one? 💀
@BigRaidah
@BigRaidah Жыл бұрын
I had no idea the Egyptian government was straight up suing Netflix over this but that is goddamn hilarious to think about.
@thynk-unlimited
@thynk-unlimited Жыл бұрын
That's the only right way to handle this
@jojomohamed6977
@jojomohamed6977 Жыл бұрын
An Egyptian lawyer not the government
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus Жыл бұрын
It's ridiculous is what it is. There's no need to involve the court system in something like this.
@javiervasquez29
@javiervasquez29 Жыл бұрын
They should, maybe they'll learn.
@Charlotte226
@Charlotte226 Жыл бұрын
@@BiggieTrismegistus there is though
@MyNameIsSchiro
@MyNameIsSchiro Жыл бұрын
My favorite part about "The Mummy" complaint by all of those people defending things is that Brendan Fraser is literally playing an American in Egypt. Meanwhile, the characters that ARE Egyptian are played by actors of Middle-eastern descent, or Afrikaaner. The Mummy is literally more accurately cast than Cleopatra.
@Vergilsolosyourfavouriteverse
@Vergilsolosyourfavouriteverse 5 ай бұрын
This reminded me of the time I used to watch it like every week just because I liked it so much when I was a a kid
@nickkerber1145
@nickkerber1145 4 ай бұрын
I literally said that to myself the second it came up lol. "Fictional aside, Brendan Frasier was playing an AMERICAN! Rick O'Connell was from CHICAGO!"
@Kenshin6321
@Kenshin6321 Жыл бұрын
Calling Jada Pinkett Smith a film maker is like calling Netflix Cleopatra a documentary.
@Rar830
@Rar830 Жыл бұрын
Or Jada being a good wife
@trevor852
@trevor852 Жыл бұрын
She was about as faithful to historical accuracy as she was to her husband
@ExelArts
@ExelArts Жыл бұрын
It's like calling her a faithful wife
@davidoliver8324
@davidoliver8324 Жыл бұрын
Omg, seriously funny 😁 😂
@TorontoSaurusEx
@TorontoSaurusEx Жыл бұрын
@@Rar830 Sloppy seconds?
@dronesclubhighjinks
@dronesclubhighjinks Жыл бұрын
"I stole your thing because it's important to me and my daughter that this thing is ours now. If you accuse me of theft, that means you're racist even though I totally stole it and I'm making it mine. If you accuse me of theft, it also means that you must hate yourself." -Jada, the director, and the actress Has Netflix made an official statement about it yet?
@maifawzy1724
@maifawzy1724 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@thynk-unlimited
@thynk-unlimited Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Netflix don't care about this. The only thing what is important for them are the paying customers not if a production a successful one.
@dronesclubhighjinks
@dronesclubhighjinks Жыл бұрын
@@thynk-unlimited you're probably correct. Also, there is no way for Netflix to address the subject without getting a giant backlash from one group or the other.
@czarthy
@czarthy Жыл бұрын
we wuz kannnngz n shieeet maayynee
@fantochedollmaker7030
@fantochedollmaker7030 Жыл бұрын
"I will steal your proven, historical thing and call you a racist if you contest it" All plot from Cleopatra
@southweststrangla420
@southweststrangla420 Жыл бұрын
the old cleopatra movie wasnt saying anything about being historically accurate. the new netflix documentary on the other hand is saying this crap is truth
@aeldin131
@aeldin131 Жыл бұрын
Also the 1961 movie main pitch wasn't "Look Cleopatra is white" unlike this BS documentary which centers around her being black. That's aside from the documentary vs fiction argument even.
@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro
@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Liz wasn’t even cast as some sort of middle finger to Egyptians or any other people group, either. She was cast because she was the “it-girl” of the time, and would bring in huge crowds. These people are absolutely delusional
@steveknott4255
@steveknott4255 Жыл бұрын
The old Cleopatra was a good movie with fantastic performances from Taylor Burton and Toddy Macdowell as Octavian. This is shit
@saelind73
@saelind73 Жыл бұрын
And Elizabeth Taylor had charisma and gravitas worthy of a Queen, such as Cleopatra. That movie is far more accurate than this crap.
@thetempleoflove6966
@thetempleoflove6966 Жыл бұрын
Cleopatra was of Greek/Macedonian ethnicity. Elisabeth Taylor would have perfectly pass as a native to Greece/Macedonia, so she would perfectly pass as the same ethnicity as Cleopatra. The actress on the netflix show - not at all.
@Federalrepublicofsprout7263
@Federalrepublicofsprout7263 Жыл бұрын
She has a good point on "what bothers you so much about a black cleopatra?" This has inspired me to make a WWII documentary starring Indian Hitler Arab Musolini Hispanic Hirohito Chinese Roosevelt Black Churchill Polynesian Stalin and Native American DeGualle
@dimitriwarchief301
@dimitriwarchief301 Жыл бұрын
They would love it unironicly Especially emKay
@antonius_006
@antonius_006 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget about a biography of jesus .
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 9 ай бұрын
If your revisionism is hilarious enough, I'd gladly back your project.
@paulor.2069
@paulor.2069 8 ай бұрын
Do you right-wing racists even realize that the majority of Hollywood productions and mainstream cinema EVERYWHERE are guilty of commiting whitewashing during these past 100 years or so?
@mariem6735
@mariem6735 7 ай бұрын
I am afraid all those will be portrayed as black muslims. All will be Muslim, the Dirty Green Sun in the Sky I once Saw bouncing up and down.
@Mrsheref
@Mrsheref Жыл бұрын
As an Egyptian, I am not responsible for the psychological problems that African Americans suffer from. 60% of Egypt's area is on the continent of Asia, the Sinai Peninsula, Port Fouad and Port Said, and the rest of Egypt lies on the Mediterranean coast. We, Albia, Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco, the African countries bordering the Mediterranean basin are not black. And Cleopatra was the queen of Egypt and cherished her, and she was a Greek Macedonian
@Harahvaiti
@Harahvaiti Жыл бұрын
Based on what afrocentrists from USA are trying to sell - you are a descendant of Arab invaders who did the racial cleansing of ancient Egypt and replaced the black people with Arabs. That "historical" fact has one big problem - Arabs have conquered Persia and did not eradicate Persians because modern Iranians are proof of it, Arabs have conquered Berbers and have not eradicate them either because Berbers exist to this day... so why would Egypt be an exemption? Because it is not. Because this racial change in Egypt when Arabs came *did not* happen.
@QUINTUSMAXIMUS
@QUINTUSMAXIMUS Жыл бұрын
Actually, this is not correct. The Sinai is in West Asia, but the lands west of the Sinai is in Northeast Africa. That said the DELTA is 300 kilometers from West Asia (for example Damanhur), but Nubia is 1000 kilometers away from Damanhur. A lot of the ancient Egyptians came from the Middle East, West Asia, and also North Africa. Scholars say ancient farmer Middle East people came many thousands of years ago to Egypt, so long before Arabs came, people from the Middle East already came thousands of years ago. Also, the Canaanites settled in Egypt in the north.
@Mrsheref
@Mrsheref Жыл бұрын
@@QUINTUSMAXIMUS My brother, please review your information about Arish, Port Fouad, Port Said and Sinai in Asia, Africa, a multi-ethnic continent, a multi-ethnic continent, the multi-ethnic continent of Asia, the Mongolian race, the Turkish race, the Persian race, the Iraqi Iraq, the Arab race, the Caucasian race. We are the inhabitants of the Mediterranean basin, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, for a black year
@johnhoran9840
@johnhoran9840 Жыл бұрын
Most black Americans love ghetto culture, so never take their criticisms seriously.
@RabiyaRavenclaw
@RabiyaRavenclaw Жыл бұрын
​@@Mrsherefyou are right brother, Africa is the most genetically/racially diverse region on the planet. It's like a whole world in itself, but these stupid muricans don't realise that
@hubertushostihayuanta8873
@hubertushostihayuanta8873 Жыл бұрын
I remember my grandmother saying to me: I don't care what they tell you in school, the earth is flat.
@Rar830
@Rar830 Жыл бұрын
“Vaccines are a lie, Covid was made up, the Moon Landing never happened.” My 90 year old grandad
@nevenamisic9493
@nevenamisic9493 Жыл бұрын
😂
@nunya_bizniz
@nunya_bizniz Жыл бұрын
Your comment is even funnier since it was the Greeks who proved earth was a sphere over 2000 years ago, and Cleopatra was Greek.
@MrJames1034
@MrJames1034 Жыл бұрын
I remember my grandmother saying to me: "I don't care what they tell you in school. Hitler was right" Yeah this is why we do historical research that aren't based on grandma's statements.
@brucenorman8904
@brucenorman8904 Жыл бұрын
some drunk guy in a bar saying to me: I don't care what they tell you in school the Sun orbits the Earth.
@joyfulosity
@joyfulosity Жыл бұрын
Most other countries probably actually think America is a whacked out nutcase of a country because of our extreme politics, so hate our entertainment because we absolutely went full blown crazy on incorporating every little politically-correct, check-every-box, virtue signaling thing in what was supposed to be just entertainment… and they really aren’t that far off the mark…
@JakXLT
@JakXLT Жыл бұрын
Extreme politics and our military sticking it's dirty-ass finger in every cake in the bakery.
@drobert1741
@drobert1741 Жыл бұрын
We didn't do anything. The judeo satanic pedophile banksters who all came here after WW2 are the ones who did this. Half of Joe Biden's cab is jewish. A quarter of white house staffers. The entire boards of every major media company. Donald Trump's entire family is jewish. Bill Clinton was best buds with Epstein. Obama was on Epstein's plane/island. Maxwell was an Israeli intelligence asset. The jews killed JFK for opposing their nuclear program and then killed his brother for investigating the first murder. The CIA is completely owned by Israel. US gives Israel $3 trillion a year in reparations for a holocaust that never happened after we sent 40 million white men to their deaths. For nothing. We killed all of our strongest men so these jews and their satanic devilry could enslave the human race.
@punishedmatteson7108
@punishedmatteson7108 Жыл бұрын
If I didn't live here and only knew about Americans from TV and movies, I'd think that we were at least 50% or more black, and black male/White female was the majority of relationships, because that is what is shown by (((Hollywood))).
@Muschelschubs3r
@Muschelschubs3r Жыл бұрын
Yep, we do think your media are batshit insane. And your politics. The worst thing is that the PC shit follows the media and is lapped up by weak-minded liberal arts academia. Which then stinks up society. So thanks, I guess.
@carolynrjackson
@carolynrjackson Жыл бұрын
Yes, yes that is what those of us in other countries think. America is fu**ed. 🤡🤡🤡
@antoniooliver7708
@antoniooliver7708 Жыл бұрын
The most tragic part of this is that Africa is so rich In it’s history and there were many rulers who WERE in fact black women. But instead of telling real African history they decide to retcon egypts history because the writers are lazy and entitled.
@ronalddavis
@ronalddavis Жыл бұрын
other than egypt what history? the mythical wakanda?
@antoniooliver7708
@antoniooliver7708 Жыл бұрын
@@ronalddavis let’s see, I don’t know maybe Kush, the Kingdom of Aksum, the Benin empire, the Ashanti empire, Zimbabwe, the Kingdom of the Kongo?
@krixpop
@krixpop Жыл бұрын
@@antoniooliver7708 Yet he is right: those that pretend to represent Africa are not interested in its actual History but in their own idiocies such as Wakanda ... Why show a Sub-Saharan African Empire, considered as such by all contemporary European Empires, defeating for the 1st time in history a modern Imperial British army, in open field, while using Assegai and hide-shields against Martini-rifles and field artillery (and one Rocket battery) ? The truth is too glorious and they cannot play victim anymore ... And by my own experience, this is why Zulus do despise the avrican-amuricans quite a lot... thus that is that .
@VelCroweBar
@VelCroweBar Жыл бұрын
@@ronalddavis Damn bro... You got Molly waped by Antonio....
@victor9396
@victor9396 Жыл бұрын
because a lot of people don't know about them so it isn't that "profitable" remember kids, companies care about money first and foremost
@HerculesBallsInc
@HerculesBallsInc Жыл бұрын
I wonder if they showed 18-year-old Cleopatra marrying her 10-year-old brother. Which indisputably happened. As opposed to her training to be a warrior queen, which almost certainly didn't happen.
@tiare397
@tiare397 Жыл бұрын
They did except her brother wasn’t 10 💀 pretty sure the only reason why they cast an older actor is to soften cleopatras image. It was so cringy to watch her ‘training’ to be a warrior.
@venod3134
@venod3134 Жыл бұрын
Black people don't want this woman anyway lmao
@zeffmalchazeen3429
@zeffmalchazeen3429 Жыл бұрын
they did a girl boss move on cleopatra? Switching the race and color is not enough? Cleopatras beauty was her weapon
@iancoots4394
@iancoots4394 Жыл бұрын
​@@zeffmalchazeen3429 I mean there is more evidence to suggest she wasn't even that beautiful than there is the opposite.
@OzymandiasWasRight
@OzymandiasWasRight Жыл бұрын
Her brother was dangerously obese and had several health problems. (Didn't he drown in his own armor? Ive read that but I dunno how true it is)... Oh yea my point! I think most directors try to avoid the brother/husband aspect when telling the story. Comparing this awful film to something like HBOs Rome can only lead to anger.
@Atelierwanwan
@Atelierwanwan Жыл бұрын
Comparing a documentory to a fictional movie about a mummy says literally everything you need to know about the people involved.
@bobharritech8460
@bobharritech8460 Жыл бұрын
It fails even more if you consider the fact that there WERE white Egyptologists in the late 1800's and early 1900's, such as Howard Carter, who discovered the tomb of Tutankhamun.
@brianhelmick1105
@brianhelmick1105 Жыл бұрын
This video compares a documentary to a cartoon, actually 2 cartoons, one with a live action remake.
@czarthy
@czarthy Жыл бұрын
we wuz kangzzz n shiiieeeeet
@Tempe415
@Tempe415 Жыл бұрын
blacks want to change history and feel entitled to every role
@Tempe415
@Tempe415 Жыл бұрын
it's not even a documentary, how is this even close to one
@PineappleDealer37
@PineappleDealer37 Жыл бұрын
That feeling when asterix and obelix is more historically accurate than a documentary
@cck6591
@cck6591 Жыл бұрын
dokumenteri
@adamnave1078
@adamnave1078 Жыл бұрын
legendary
@ngken1012
@ngken1012 Жыл бұрын
nice!!!
@colinvoorneveld
@colinvoorneveld Жыл бұрын
I love how the slaves in that are such eloquent speakers
@elleanna5869
@elleanna5869 Жыл бұрын
@@colinvoorneveld this was not unusual in ancient world.
@justintorres6781
@justintorres6781 Жыл бұрын
The mummy was set in a fictional universe and kept to the lore pretty well. The curses, books of the dead and living. How the mummified the dead. And yet it was never advertised as a docu movie..
@Jim-Tuner
@Jim-Tuner Жыл бұрын
NOOOOOOO! That was real! My grandma said so!
@chrisbg99
@chrisbg99 Жыл бұрын
And I'm trying to figure out what Brenden Fraser fault was? He portrayed an American who had knowledge of the area not as an Egyptian.
@MayYourGodGoWithYou
@MayYourGodGoWithYou Жыл бұрын
Even the language was based on how they think it might have been using Coptic as a guide.
@chinchilla415
@chinchilla415 Жыл бұрын
It infuriates me how that tv show presenter mentioned that as some smug, enlightened gotcha-moment.
@brucenorman8904
@brucenorman8904 Жыл бұрын
@NoelJacquerey South African think Boer but could be mistaken.
@LinkiePup
@LinkiePup Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem, and why it’s getting criticized so hard is because it’s claiming to be a documentary. Because like people are upset because she’s not Egyptian. If you’re doing a historical documentary you have to get all the ethnicities right. You can’t have everyone around Cleopatra be Egyptian… but then Cleopatra herself be black. It’s just taking the piss out of history.
@thedarkpiginator9914
@thedarkpiginator9914 Жыл бұрын
Wdym? Cleopatra wasn't Egyptian she was greek Macedonian and was white alsowhat made her strong isn't fighting with sword but her intelligence and charisma wich is why Egypt was prosperous during her rule
@Peekaboo-Kitty
@Peekaboo-Kitty Жыл бұрын
I'm not upset that Cleopatra wasn't Egyptian! Why would anyone be upset by that???
@izzatputin1999
@izzatputin1999 Жыл бұрын
I don't care what they tell you in school, Michael Jackson was Scandinavian
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
He sure wished he was
@bigal8752
@bigal8752 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@insertnamehere5809
@insertnamehere5809 Жыл бұрын
No, he was Korean 🇰🇷
@GRANFRA99
@GRANFRA99 Жыл бұрын
​@@marcogenovesi8570 how
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
@@GRANFRA99 surgery and skin bleaching procedures. Michael Jackson went on a journey of personal racial improvement
@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Жыл бұрын
Jada Pinkett Smith: *Cleopatra is a strong black woman* History Fans: Where is the evidence? Jada Pinkett Smith: *Some Senile lady told me she was like "Trust me Bro"*
@weilandloveland
@weilandloveland Жыл бұрын
My source is that I made it the fuck up!
@lunanacomet
@lunanacomet Жыл бұрын
No no no, her defense is "the vision I experienced while blanking out while cheating on my husband with a 6ft tall guy from the hood told me she's black"
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
it was a senile Black lady
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
@@lunanacomet it's "entanglements"
@TheRealCompensator
@TheRealCompensator Жыл бұрын
The David Guetta part was funny, considering that House Music originates with Black Americans, yes it’s Black American subculture! 😅 The second comical part is that this particular Cleopatra was not even an Egyptian, let alone African. She was a descendant from Macedonians. She maybe had some African admixture in her, which would appear to be a biracial look. “Cleopatra’s racial background. It’s a little complicated, so do follow closely! She was born in early 69 BC as the descendant of a line of Egyptian kings in a dynasty that went back 250 years. Her ancestor Ptolemy I, a companion of Alexander the Great, founded the dynasty in the late fourth century BC. Ptolemy was Macedonian Greek in origin (he grew up at the royal court of Alexander’s father in Macedonia, the northern part of the Greek peninsula), and established himself as king of Egypt in the convulsive years after Alexander’s death. “. (Source: Duane W. Roller) For the second claim but also first claim, which makes it the third comical part. See Hollywood has been on the Egyptian bandwagon since the days cinematography. exists! Since you wanted facts about ancient Egypt, here are the facts. "Many of the sites reveal evidence of important interactions between Nilotic and Saharan groups during the formative phases of the Egyptian Predynastic Period (e.g. Wadi el-Hôl, Rayayna, Nuq’ Menih, Kurkur Oasis). Other sites preserve important information regarding the use of the desert routes during the Protodynastic and Pharaonic Periods, particularly during periods of political and military turmoil in the Nile Valley (e.g. Gebel Tjauti, Wadi el-Hôl)." (Yale University Department of Egyptology, Theban Desert Road Survey and Yale Toshka Desert Survey) *Some groups (using cemeteries E-01-2, E-03-1, E-03-2, and E-09-4) show some affiliation with sub-Saharan Africans, readable in the pottery assemblage and other grave goods, as well as some morphological features “ (Irish 2010; Kobusiewicz and Kabaciński 2010; Czekaj-Zastawny and Kabaciński 2015).* *There is now a sufficient body of evidence from modern studies of skeletal remains to indicate that the ancient Egyptians, especially southern Egyptians, exhibited physical characteristics that are within the range of variation for ancient and modern indigenous peoples of the Sahara and tropical Africa.* *In general, the inhabitants of Upper Egypt and Nubia had the greatest biological affinity to people of the Sahara and more southerly areas* [...] Any interpretation of the biological affinities of the ancient Egyptians must be placed in the context of hypothesis informed by the archaeological, linguistic, geographic or other data. *In this context the physical anthropological evidence indicates that the early Nile Valley populations can be identified as part of an African lineage, but exhibiting local variation.* This variation represents the short and long term effects of evolutionary forces, such as gene flow, genetic drift, and natural selection influenced by culture and geography" (Kathryn A. Bard, Egyptians, physical anthropology of Physical anthropology (2015)) “The process of the peopling of the Nile Valley likely shaped the population structure and early biological similarity of Egyptians and Nubians. As others have noted, affinity among Nilotic populations was due to an aggregation of events, including environmental, linguistic, and sociopolitical changes over a great deal of time. This study seeks to *evaluate the relationships of Nubian and Egyptian groups in the context of the original peopling event.* Cranial nonmetric traits from 18 Nubian and Egyptian samples, *spanning Lower Egypt to Lower Nubia and approximately 7400 years,* were analyzed using Mahalanobis D2 as a measure of biological distance. A principal coordinates analysis and spatial-temporal model were applied to these data. The results reveal temporal and spatial patterning *consistent with documented events in Egyptian and Nubian population history. Moreover, the Mesolithic Nubian sample clustered with later Nubian and Egyptian samples,* indicating that events prior to *the Mesolithic were important in shaping the later genetic patterning of the Nubian population.* Later contact through the establishment of the Egyptian fort at Buhen, Kerma’s position as a strategic trade center along the Nile, and Egyptian colonization at Tombos *maintained genetic similarity among the populations”* (Godde K, A new analysis interpreting Nilotic relationships and peopling of the Nile Valley (July 2018)) “Post-Pleistocene climatic improvement in the Northern Hemisphere after ca. 9550 BC allowed human populations to recolonize large parts of North Africa in what is today the Sahara Desert. In the Egyptian Western Desert, the beginnings of human occupation date as early as ca. 9300 BC. Occupation continued until the middle of the third millennium BC when final desertification of the area no longer afforded human occupation. The settlement of the Neolithic cattle and sheep/goat herders developed along with the rhythm of alternating wet and dry climatic oscillations. One of the areas occupied intensively during the early and middle Holocene was Gebel Ramlah. Pastoral populations established their settlements around the shores of a paleo-lake adjacent to a rocky massif, to exploit the local savannah environment. During most of the Neolithic, they buried their dead dispersed outside of their settlements. Only during the Final Neolithic (after ca. 4600 BC) did they place them exclusively in cemeteries. Of six Final Neolithic cemeteries investigated at Gebel Ramlah to date, one is entirely unprecedented, not only in North Africa but also globally at such an early date. For just under 200 years (ca. 4500-4300 BC), it served exclusively for the inhumation of infants who died around (perinate) or shortly after the time of birth (neonate). Thirty-two burial pits contained skeletal remains of 39 individuals, not only infants but also at least two adult females accompanied by perinates/neonates. Older children (> 3 years) were interred at a nearby cemetery that primarily comprised adults. […] The area around Gebel Ramlah was settled since the beginning of the Early Neolithic, and the density of settlement reached its maximum during the El Jerar phase (climatic optimum of the Holocene). Traces from the Middle, Late, and Final Neolithic are less intensive and random. In fact, for the Final Neolithic, we have more information on mortuary behavior than for the settlement pattern and subsistence. Between 4500 and 4300 BC, south-western fringes of the Gebel Ramlah lake served as an extended burial ground for different populations. Different ancestry and relationships of these populations can be followed on the basis of archaeological and, partially, bioarchaeological arguments. “These people were certainly mobile, perhaps spending only a few months per year at Gebel Ramlah. The E-09-02 cemeteries for neonates and adults belonged to another, more sedentary group with limited mobility; however, we cannot trace their origins based on the available record. An almost complete lack of grave goods does not allow comparative analyses. On the other hand, peculiar characters of the skeletal remains at these cemeteries-numerous neonatal/perinatal individuals and poorly preserved subadults/adults-do not allow reliable studies based on craniometric or dental data. But, qualitatively, there are no obvious differences among all populations from Gebel Ramlah at the beginning of the Final Neolithic. Thus, the two groups, culturally different, were likely not much different biologically, possibly deriving from the same region of Africa. […] Ethnographic data offer support by showing how radically different children are treated in various African societies (Gottlieb 2004a, b; Pawlik 2004; Kabaciński et al. (2018)).” (Agnieszka Czekaj-Zastawny & Tomasz Goslar & Joel D. Irish & Jacek Kabaciński, Gebel Ramlah-a Unique Newborns’ Cemetery of the Neolithic Sahara,African Archaeological Review volume 35, pages393-405(2018))
@JG-li4go
@JG-li4go Жыл бұрын
“I remember my Grandmother saying to me ... I don’t care what they teach you at school, Cleopatra was black.” Granny off her meds again
@chinchilla415
@chinchilla415 Жыл бұрын
I, too, base my PR response regarding obvious talking points and justified controversies on what my senile relatives said to me when I was a kid.
@επιθετικόακτινιδιο
@επιθετικόακτινιδιο Жыл бұрын
Of grandma said it! POOF! Instantly changes history.
@επιθετικόακτινιδιο
@επιθετικόακτινιδιο Жыл бұрын
@LAMAR × HOP oh you are hilarious
@fantochedollmaker7030
@fantochedollmaker7030 Жыл бұрын
Imagine saying this without laughing. Yes kid, ignore every fact, everything they told you in school. This senile old fuck told you she was black and that's it. She's black.
@DarkBear420
@DarkBear420 Жыл бұрын
She definitely wasn’t a white woman.
@TheMitchyb61
@TheMitchyb61 Жыл бұрын
Bill Maher called it perfect when he said “eventually you get so woke you come back out on the racist end.”
@theoverfiend8701
@theoverfiend8701 Жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a boy my grandpa told me "Don't belive what they tell you at school Martin Luther King was Mexican" stunning and brave 👏
@cjcrrazy
@cjcrrazy Жыл бұрын
Of course because all North Americans are the same ! just like apparently all Africans are.
@wisdoma4860
@wisdoma4860 Жыл бұрын
MOST EGYPITIANS ARE DECENDANTS OF TUTANKHAMUN. NUBIAN MIXED. ARABS LATER MIXED WITH MANY EGYPTIANS. EARLY EGYTPTIAN PHAROHS WERE NUBIAN AND ARAB MIXED PHAROHS. AT THE FALL OF EGYPT, THOUSANDS OF YEARS LATER, GREEKS MIXED WITH SOME EGYPTIANS SO DID ROMANS WHEN THEY TOOK OVER. CLEAOPATRA WAS LIGHTER SKINED BORN IN EGYPT , AFRICA. MAKES HER AFRICAN. THE BLACK NAME OR WHITE NAME CALLING STARTED IN 20TH CENTURY. STOP THE LIES. ALL THE RACIST AGAINST DARK SKINNED PEOPLE HAVE CAME OUT IN DROVES GOOD FOR NETFLIX TO EXPOSE THEM. EVEN IN EGYPT THE NUBIAN AND LIGHTER SKINED EGYPTIANS ARE MAD AT THEIR LEADERS FOR TRYING TO WHITEWASH THEIR EGYPTIAN PAST TO PLEASE EUROPEANS. CHANGE IS NOW HAPPEING, THANK YOU NETFLIX EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE WRONG, CLEAOPATRA WAS LIGHTER SKINNED MIXED GREEK WHEN GREEK TOOK OVER LATER ROMANS TOO OVER. SHE IS STILL EGYPTIAN AFRICAN.
@Your_L0cal-Editor
@Your_L0cal-Editor 6 ай бұрын
Your grandpa was wrong. He was obviously white🙄🙄🙄🙄
@Hydrodictyon
@Hydrodictyon Жыл бұрын
Did she SERIOUSLY say a word in Brendan Fraser’s way? Man struggled through shit, came back and is an icon of many people childhoods and adulthoods, ain’t no way she compares herself to him.
@darnokx9277
@darnokx9277 Жыл бұрын
What the hell has Brendan Fraser playing in "The Mummy" to do with ANYTHING really? His character is an AMERICAN, so he's cast perfectly... what am I missing here?
@RoyCyberPunk
@RoyCyberPunk Жыл бұрын
Nothing is just another Gaslighting Nothingburger by the Globalist Left and it's pro non consenting sexual perversions and sexual predators supporting Afrocentrism cultist minions.
@ralpharteaga5142
@ralpharteaga5142 Жыл бұрын
They lost me at the bakery on that one...
@JDoe-gf5oz
@JDoe-gf5oz Жыл бұрын
Probably talking about Arnold Vosloo (South African) playing an Egyptian mummy. Never mind that it's a made-up magical character in a cheesy throwback to 1930s adventure movies.
@cybertramon0012
@cybertramon0012 Жыл бұрын
Maybe she thinks Fraser played the Mummy himself instead of the hero. Considering all the things they’ve been wrong about with Cleopatra, it’s possible.
@ralpharteaga5142
@ralpharteaga5142 Жыл бұрын
They lost me at the bakery on that one as well...
@Weeping_Willow81
@Weeping_Willow81 Жыл бұрын
I don't think people would be as mad if they said this was historical FICTION instead of facts, they easily could have said this is a reimagining of Cleopatra's reign and not factual of the real person but was inspired by her story. The problem isn't that the actress is black, the problem is the misrepresentation of Egyptian culture and the skewing of the truth while claiming that it's fact.
@innosanto
@innosanto 3 ай бұрын
They wouldnt interview “experts” in the show in that case.
@flickrebeat8936
@flickrebeat8936 Ай бұрын
I think so look at The Bridgerton series and the Great they literally say that their anti historical and people still complain
@letsunnahgoforth
@letsunnahgoforth Жыл бұрын
Cleopatra came from a dynasty of conquering Greeks named the Ptolemaic dynasty. She was ethnically greek . She is probably the only one from her dynasty that bothered to learn egyptian. And I think it was her wit, charisma, and talent in various aspects that made her beautiful and not only her looks
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 Жыл бұрын
The Seleucid’s were a Greek dynasty too (descendants of a different Greek general).
@Nosliw837
@Nosliw837 Жыл бұрын
Seleucid's were definitely also Greek. And check out any familial lineage of Cleopatra. Obscenely inbred to keep to the norms of the the previously established Egyptian pharisees.
@letsunnahgoforth
@letsunnahgoforth Жыл бұрын
@@Nosliw837 interesting I didn’t know the seleucids were Greek.
@Nosliw837
@Nosliw837 Жыл бұрын
@@letsunnahgoforth for about 250-300 years before, presumably ( I can't say to know their history perfect), before the Romans came along
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus Жыл бұрын
I think it's funny that Black Americans are so desperate to claim an imperialist and colonizer as one of their own. Over the past few years it's become blatantly obvious that Europeans and white people in general are held to a vastly different standard and much more stringent standard when it comes to judging their historical actions.
@_Jay_Maker_
@_Jay_Maker_ Жыл бұрын
Please, someone clip the scenes where she sword fights. I must have context for why someone who looks like she's never lifted a heavy object in her entire life is somehow an expert swordswoman.
@anthonynoel57
@anthonynoel57 Жыл бұрын
Ironically, she is clearly using a Kopis, a Greek weapon. Which is another case of historical inaccuracy, at this point the Egyptian military was Roman controlled and Roman in structure and training, and supplied with standard Roman kit, meaning aside from the fact that Cleopatra would never have been trained to use a sword, she would most certainly not have been using a Kopis, she would of been using a Gladius or possibly a Spatha.
@wisdoma4860
@wisdoma4860 Жыл бұрын
MOST EGYPITIANS ARE DECENDANTS OF TUTANKHAMUN. NUBIAN MIXED. ARABS LATER MIXED WITH MANY EGYPTIANS. EARLY EGYTPTIAN PHAROHS WERE NUBIAN AND ARAB MIXED PHAROHS. AT THE FALL OF EGYPT, THOUSANDS OF YEARS LATER, GREEKS MIXED WITH SOME EGYPTIANS SO DID ROMANS WHEN THEY TOOK OVER. CLEAOPATRA WAS LIGHTER SKINED BORN IN EGYPT , AFRICA. MAKES HER AFRICAN. THE BLACK NAME OR WHITE NAME CALLING STARTED IN 20TH CENTURY. STOP THE LIES. ALL THE RACIST AGAINST DARK SKINNED PEOPLE HAVE CAME OUT IN DROVES GOOD FOR NETFLIX TO EXPOSE THEM. EVEN IN EGYPT THE NUBIAN AND LIGHTER SKINED EGYPTIANS ARE MAD AT THEIR LEADERS FOR TRYING TO WHITEWASH THEIR EGYPTIAN PAST TO PLEASE EUROPEANS. CHANGE IS NOW HAPPEING, THANK YOU NETFLIX EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE WRONG, CLEAOPATRA WAS LIGHTER SKINNED MIXED GREEK WHEN GREEK TOOK OVER LATER ROMANS TOO OVER. SHE IS STILL EGYPTIAN AFRICAN.
@the_tactician9858
@the_tactician9858 Жыл бұрын
If they really wanted to show her off as being a badass, show her off as a naval commander, which she actually seemed to have had a knack for. She even sailed her fleet to aid Octavian and Mark Anthony in the battle of Philippi, but was hindered by a storm and arrived too late to be of use. You can have your feminist power cake AND eat it too, by giving her an actual male dominated job and performing well in it. But instead they went for the swordfighting...
@elleanna5869
@elleanna5869 Жыл бұрын
@@the_tactician9858 no they could not show brain muscles ,too trasgressive
@christopherhughes9787
@christopherhughes9787 7 ай бұрын
Maybe we should ask that lady's grandmother about that one. She seems like a good source.
@MrMMAJER
@MrMMAJER Жыл бұрын
This is just pure 'merica ignorance. I swear even if they had the actual Cleopatra back from the dead, and she told them "No, this is not what my culture looked like" they would call her a racist.
@frankieseward8667
@frankieseward8667 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. This is just entitlement and arrogance to the highest degree. I hope Netflix loses nig time
@PresJoshington
@PresJoshington Жыл бұрын
They would
@narmar9mm
@narmar9mm Жыл бұрын
What you must understand is that the Pyramids have been standing there for over 30,000 years! The reason why the Eurocentrics tell you that the Pyramids is 3,000 years old, is to tie themselves into the story of them building the Pyramids! All we do is add an extra Zero to give you the correct dates of around how long the Pyramids have been standing there. Which completely removes the Eurocentrics from the story of who built the Pyramids, Bc there were No white ppl or Arabs at this point in time! There were only Negroid's walking around!!!!
@sjie1874
@sjie1874 Жыл бұрын
They would claim she has been empirical brainwashed and try to gaslight her into thinking she is black
@Brandonhayhew
@Brandonhayhew Жыл бұрын
Yep, people these days are ignorant
@astrobat1638
@astrobat1638 Жыл бұрын
To those that pity and defend Adele James, she said that blackwashing doesn't exist and called the haters as racist so she DESERVES to suffer hate
@planescaped
@planescaped Жыл бұрын
Blackwashing most certainly is a thing Hollywood does these days. Hollywood is just overcorrecting the steering of the ship right into another sandbar.
@acwojtkowiak
@acwojtkowiak Жыл бұрын
Not hate but some contempt and ridicule.
@eddyg671
@eddyg671 Жыл бұрын
To quote Saint Bernard of Clairvaux, "The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions". Way to represent a minority by misrepresenting an entire country. Well done Netflix, you pulled a Cuties on us again
@novareactor999
@novareactor999 Жыл бұрын
Except they got away with the Cuties thing.
@bugsy742
@bugsy742 Жыл бұрын
@@novareactor999 I still can’t understand how they got away with that! “The people” truly are sheeple! It’s been suggested that only one third of any nation is ever awake or mentally capable seeing the bs, governments literally bank on this knowledge- if the people ( the 2 3rds ) hear it from “their team” they will never question it! Utterly scary!
@happysugarwaifu432
@happysugarwaifu432 Жыл бұрын
Ah, i keep quoting that and never knew who it was from, Thanks~ That quote translated today would goes like... ''Your intentions ain't worth sh*t compared to your actions'' because God knows you need to make everything simpler today
@minniemin1324
@minniemin1324 Жыл бұрын
this "documentary" was definitely not made with good intentions lol
@triton2397
@triton2397 Жыл бұрын
Off topic but I’m studying that bloke and that’s one hell of a quote to drop into essays and shit
@Sound557
@Sound557 Жыл бұрын
Not like Nubia had its own Pharaonic dynasty they could've made a documentary for.
@kirgan1000
@kirgan1000 Жыл бұрын
That demand research and that is to much work...
@allangibson8494
@allangibson8494 Жыл бұрын
Or it’s own black Queen who went into combat against the Romans (at exactly the same time).
@dlc2479
@dlc2479 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with this although I think some of this backlash is rooted in anti blackness. Fun fact: The Egyptian Minister of Antiquities goes out of his way to deny the existence of black ancient Egyptians and made sure than NONE of the Nubian pharoahs are represented in the Cairo museum....
@korawitbuttramee618
@korawitbuttramee618 Жыл бұрын
@@allangibson8494 Don't, dude. Last thing we need is a documentary where Boudica was portrayed by a black actress. I mean, some spinless pricks already allowed a show with a black girl playing Anne fucking Boleyne to air.
@michaelreich4827
@michaelreich4827 Жыл бұрын
The people in charge of this show look exactly how you'd think they look.
@bugsy742
@bugsy742 Жыл бұрын
😂🤝 absolutely spot on mate - I said this very thing to the wife today! 😅
@Ludwig1625
@Ludwig1625 Жыл бұрын
That should say something for all the journalists who want to rationalize their intentions
@cleanerben9636
@cleanerben9636 Жыл бұрын
Clean and tidy wearing formal office wear right and not a piercing in sight?
@jethroscooter7214
@jethroscooter7214 Жыл бұрын
It’s getting really hard to be black, embarrassing that so many of us have extreme victim mentality..
@sandradiaz4366
@sandradiaz4366 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that Elizabeth Taylor in all likelihood looked closer to the real Cleopatra than the Netflix actress. The only real inaccuracy with that one is that the real Cleopatra was supposedly not all that pretty, unlike Liz Taylor.
@sydneykendall7125
@sydneykendall7125 Жыл бұрын
Sandradiaz, you said what I was going to say about Liz Taylor's casting. 😊 Not too white for the role, but definitely too beautiful, if accuracy is the issue.
@stsk1061
@stsk1061 Жыл бұрын
Not in all likelihood - she definitely was closer as can be seen by all extant depictions of Cleopatra. As for her looks, Cleopatra was famous for being a great beauty, especially in her youth. She was compared to Helen of Troy.
@sydneykendall7125
@sydneykendall7125 Жыл бұрын
@@stsk1061 If the depictions of her on coins and such captures her general looks, I'd say the standards of great beauty were quite different then than now. But Cleopatra was unusual for a woman of her time and place. She was highly educated, spoke several languages, and was also clever and politically savvy. And apparently also quite charming. I venture to say that her personality and gifts made her an enchanting woman, which could create an aura of beauty enhancement.
@stsk1061
@stsk1061 Жыл бұрын
@@sydneykendall7125 I wouldn't put too much stake into the coins. They are about the size of your thumb nail. In any case, the Romans knew how she looked. She lived there for two years.
@kelvinyany
@kelvinyany Жыл бұрын
Cleopatra had kind of inbred looking feature, esp the nose.
@brianmsahin
@brianmsahin Жыл бұрын
Cleopatra is well documented as a Macedonian Greek including contemporary depictions of her as white with red hair. This is a very common feature of some people around the Mediterranean and even today in Turkey and Syria there are red haired freckled people. Also Cleopatra was not a warrior queen. She never fought a battle and was never trained in sword fighting. Eqyptians are rightly insulted at this travesty of historical inaccuracy. And as far as the Dylan Mulvaney like character on the right of the video, he/she is just a social justice princess. We have to make sure they keep losing money.
@hafirenggayuda
@hafirenggayuda Жыл бұрын
Why do these people keep making a need to make women as "manly" warrior? Worse, they also make them unnecessarily toxic and rude
@SamRabbitx
@SamRabbitx Жыл бұрын
As a white, big nosed woman of Mediterranean and Turkish origin, I DARE these Hollywood cucks to cast a woman who looks like me. I fuckin dare them.
@keankolodziejski1605
@keankolodziejski1605 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think she had red hair bud
@buckodonnghaile4309
@buckodonnghaile4309 Жыл бұрын
She was French Canadian, specifically from the the booming metropolis of art and culture,Chicoutimi.
@juanmanuelmoramontes3883
@juanmanuelmoramontes3883 Жыл бұрын
​@@keankolodziejski1605You'd be surprised that it was possible to be red headed in thos areas back then.
@socratesrocks1513
@socratesrocks1513 Жыл бұрын
Take out all the claims that she was black, remove the label 'documentary', and most would shrug and say OK but it's still shite because it's not just the casting that's wrong. Cleopatra was not a 'warrior'. She was a politician caught up in a time when whatever side you were on, you were likely to lose. She was incredibly smart, spoke several languages (with Greek being the dominant one in the palace and she probably spoke Greek with Antony and Caesar since they would have spoken it, too), she was interested in astronomy (and astrology, which were intertwined at the time), history, theology (she was the first of the Ptolemies to learn Egyptian and lead the services in some temples -- having the incarnation of Isis leading the show gave the chosen temple a lot of kudos). She practiced with poisons (on prisoners due to be executed) to find combinations that were effective and painless, suggesting she already had an idea what was coming and wanted to prepare for it. In other words she was extremely well educated -- a rarity for women at the time and probably what attracted men to her because, based on her busts and coins, it wasn't her looks. What she wasn't was a physical fighter, she had soldiers to do that for her. Yet this series makes her look like she comes from the hood, wielding swords and beating up the guys. No! This show is bad and wildly inaccurate on so many levels it's insane. To have the nerve to call itself a 'documentary' is to reveal the ignorance of its creators and their total lack of respect for ALL aspects of history. They're merely using Cleopatra as a tool to advance their personal agenda, and the one in this series and the one in reality bear as much relation to each other as I do to Abraham Lincoln (that is, none whatsoever). The only similarity between this version and the real Cleopatra is that they share the same name and some key events. If Cleopatra herself could rise from the dead, I have little doubt she'd use her knowledge of poisons to garner some revenge.
@the_tactician9858
@the_tactician9858 Жыл бұрын
If all they did was cast a black actor as a badass warrior queen who was in reality not a warrior queen, with it abusing history, it would have been a modern equivalent of Troy. Horrible in accuracy to source material, but people would still watch it because it's badass.
@livrk8005
@livrk8005 Жыл бұрын
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you." - Nitzsche
@TheSofres
@TheSofres Жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Taylor would have passed for more of Cleopatra than Adele. As someone whom is Greek, I am not offended by Elizabeth’s role. What the supporters in this “documentary “ are doing is repulsive
@denisedevoto5703
@denisedevoto5703 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Elizabeth looks more Greek than Adele.
@elladeon
@elladeon Жыл бұрын
She doesn't look like Cleopatra, but they chose a famously beautiful, sexual woman, which makes sense. I think most of the issues with Taylor's Cleopatra was the story itself, not the casting. And some people have brought up John Wayne as Ghengis Khan ... but that was ridiculed in the 1950s, and that movie bombed because it was stupid casting.
@alexandralee8889
@alexandralee8889 Жыл бұрын
And Elizabeth Taylor's "Cleopatra" was banned in Egypt. They don't care who plays the role..black or white. They want PROPER representation. That's FAIR .
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 Жыл бұрын
@@elladeon Exactly. I think she could have pulled off playing the role of Cleopatra in a more or less historically accurate drama, or even a complete work of fantasy about Cleopatra. The issue isn't casting a black woman to play her, it's subsequently claiming that Cleopatra was black in order to justify their casting choice.
@chillybitches
@chillybitches Жыл бұрын
The only bad thing about this documentary is that they're claiming Cleopatra was historically Black. If they'd acknowledged that she was historically Greek or Macedonian while still casting a Black actress just because they thought the Black actress had the talent to portray her, y'all would still be angry because you simply prefer to see a white face over a Black face. It's just that simple. Elizabeth Taylor is neither Greek nor Macedonian, so it's just about looks to y'all and what's more visually appealing. If you'd taken issue with the actual historical revisionism being passed off as fact in this documentary instead of just the visuals, I would have more respect for that.
@saulsilver5753
@saulsilver5753 Жыл бұрын
Calling Cleopatra black is like calling Jada a faithful wife who never slept around with other dudes. It's just not true.
@TheFourthWinchester
@TheFourthWinchester Жыл бұрын
Not even dudes. Her son's friends.
@danika9411
@danika9411 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheFourthWinchester🤢🤮 That is even worse!
@cchutney348
@cchutney348 Жыл бұрын
If these are the options, I would sooner believe that Cleopatra was a proud trans Aboriginal woman.
@amorrbaby8354
@amorrbaby8354 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 you REALLY think cleopatra was white in a country in AFRICA ..OOH you recessive idiots are truly stupid its like you all calling yourselves American coming from the caucasus mountains the stupidity of it all
@dianabandicoot
@dianabandicoot Жыл бұрын
It was an ENTANGLEMENT!!! 😂😂😂😂
@deebee4575
@deebee4575 Жыл бұрын
Jada Pinkett Smith says she blames ‘white supremacists’ for the flop of her new Netflix docudrama series, Queen Cleopatra, which has one the worst audience ratings in U.S. television history. 🤣😂🤣😂😂
@piscinaiv7937
@piscinaiv7937 Жыл бұрын
totally no other possible reasons...
@moshe4787
@moshe4787 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's weird because they show The Ten Commandments every Easter with a white Moses played by Charlton Heston, a white Nerfertiti played by Anne Baxter, and yes a Ramses played by a Russian, Yul Brynner. One of the top movies every Easter and considered a movie classic but no outrage. Is it hypocritical, racist, selective outrage? So many words come to mind.
@annawhite1430
@annawhite1430 Жыл бұрын
@@moshe4787you’re racist towards Egyptians and it’s not a good look. More fake outrage🙄
@chatonmignon8724
@chatonmignon8724 Жыл бұрын
@@moshe4787 In a fiction everyone does what he wants! This is a documentary here. Watch this historical film where the French king louis 15 is played by an American and his favorite by a North African Maiwen. It's a fiction and no one claims that the Louis 15 was American and Madame du Barry an Algerian! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKHclGyMYrp9mas
@annawhite1430
@annawhite1430 Жыл бұрын
@@EutNehbethawetRuSat I can’t blame you, it’s cultural appropriation and historically inaccurate.
@marksman314
@marksman314 Жыл бұрын
I have worked in Hollywood on the creative side my entire adult life. Hearing someone say these things is balm to my soul. Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. I wish to God our industry could get its head around these simple truths. Thank you.
@Orbowitz
@Orbowitz Жыл бұрын
Your industry is race by jews, you'll never get the truth
@David-hc4xh
@David-hc4xh Жыл бұрын
Cleopatras father Ptolemy XII was illegitimate and only became Pharaoh after his father and then half sister had died. Being illegitimate meant he was probably not fully Greek and likely of mixed Greek and Egyptian heritage. Cleopatra became Pharaoh upon his death. There is no record of Cleopatra’s maternal line. Neither her mother (supposedly Cleopatra V) or Grandmother is confirmed. It makes sense that her mother was mixed (African and Greek) especially as she is the only Ptolemy to learn Egyptian.
@grimreaper9350
@grimreaper9350 Жыл бұрын
@@David-hc4xh Egpytians aren't black tho.
@nhlcbj
@nhlcbj Жыл бұрын
“Some people believe they’re Napoleon. Beliefs are neat, cherish them, but don’t share them around like they’re the truth.” - Bill Hicks
@dottierose735
@dottierose735 Жыл бұрын
Jada’s real goal was to put mindy’s Velma scores to shame.. someone somewhere said it couldn’t be done and she said “Will, hold my beer.” 😂
@Mantelar
@Mantelar Жыл бұрын
Mirror mirror on the wall, who’s the most oppressed of all? Making anything anti white and/or anti male that bombs is like street cred for these idiots in LA
@brucenorman8904
@brucenorman8904 Жыл бұрын
more likely she said "affair partner" hold my beer. Then she called will and told him she would be late because she was working.
@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Жыл бұрын
The amount of evidence that Cleopatra is black is the same amount as the hair on Jada's head
@randomcharacter6501
@randomcharacter6501 Жыл бұрын
Original.
@Red-hot_Pyro
@Red-hot_Pyro Жыл бұрын
Damn...
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Accurate
@brianmsahin
@brianmsahin Жыл бұрын
😂True.
@kusaselihlengubane8984
@kusaselihlengubane8984 Жыл бұрын
Look out for a Will Smith shaped hand
@Keram-io8hv
@Keram-io8hv Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to use "Grandma told me" argument during college exam
@TirpitzLuminare
@TirpitzLuminare Жыл бұрын
2:21 _"What's so wrong with casting a black actress to play Cleopatra?"_ Ok, let's explore this question, right after we make a documentary about Martin Luther King Jr. and hire Chow Yun-fat to play the role.
@Jim-Tuner
@Jim-Tuner Жыл бұрын
I'd pay to see that!
@paulmahsahn1766
@paulmahsahn1766 Жыл бұрын
Real point is why do people associate Dr.king, with the excellence of Africa. As if African history began in the 1600s.
@TirpitzLuminare
@TirpitzLuminare Жыл бұрын
@@paulmahsahn1766 Yeah, that's not the point at all. I chose him because he was a beloved prominent black historical figure that nearly anyone who read my comment would know. The people asking what's wrong with switching the race of a person for a documentary are also black. I basically put them in the position of the Egyptian people to answer that ridiculous question for themselves. Not sure why this needs explaining... Also, it's important to note that Africa is a continent, not a nation. We're talking specifically of Egyptian history here and changing the ethnicity of a well documented historical figure from that nation. Egyptian history; not Nigerian, Ethiopian, or Rwandan -- but Egyptian. I hope that clears that up. I guess for commenters like yourself I should of swapped Dr.King with Mahatma Gandhi, George Washington, Henry V, or Rosa Parks, would that have made more sense to you?
@mish375
@mish375 Жыл бұрын
​@@paulmahsahn1766Especially considering that each country in Africa is very diverse with their own cultures and history. Ethiopia is one of the oldest countries in the world and they didn't think to draw from their history?
@paulmahsahn1766
@paulmahsahn1766 Жыл бұрын
@@mish375 just as powerful as Egypt was. And Ethiopia gave birth to Egypt.
@minasamir3432
@minasamir3432 Жыл бұрын
🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬 Hello Egyptian here, the mummy you showed is queen tiye and she is not black Please be care afrocentric movement are spreading lies about the origin of the ancient Egyptian civilization claiming it is black which is not correct, they claim that we modern Egyptians invaded our own country to cut the link between the modern Egyptians and the ancient Egyptian which is not correct, I myself is Coptic one of the oldest races in Egypt and no one in my family Is black Finally I want to thank all the brave people who despite risking being called racist stood with us to protect my people's identity and heritage from blackwashing, god bless you all
@blackagent4754
@blackagent4754 Жыл бұрын
Nefertiti and Nefertari were examples of Black queens, and that was actually the norm until invasions from Asia. Also, Sheikh Anta Diop is a scholar that found they were Black in ancient times. Additionally, the Afrocentrists say that these modern day Egyptians are invaders, but in reality, the average Egyptian has 67 percent original Egyptian DNA, though they are paler in color, so they are both originals and invaders or settlers mixed, mostly original, but they don't call themselves Black as they aren't usually that dark. So, before you start with that bs about how we have no history in your country, check yourselves. Man, you Egyptians really have a problem with having any relation to black people. We African Americans don't give a rat's behind about Jada-Pinkett-Shakur who cheats on her husband and then gets her history wrong, but we are sick and tired of the Egyptian attitude regarding race and colour, though. We can look down on Jada and still check you all about your preference for white over Black, when the fact is Black people never did anything to Egypt and the british colonized you and left the nation in ruins.
@Cheetahviper
@Cheetahviper Жыл бұрын
How do you view the mummy movies? I'm curious about how egypt views the movies. The ones with Brendan Frasier.
@creativecolours2022
@creativecolours2022 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Athens. Greek people support 100% what you've said.
@kalidgaf
@kalidgaf Жыл бұрын
Black people are the original home people to all of Africa’s parts and predate all humans scientifically. So no, we were a part of Egyptian civilization and you’re in fact later settlers on that land (plenty of ppl have come and conquer and intermixed in Egypt over time) and minimizing us. Even the statues and art resemble African features and skin tones of brown.. so the evidence is also visual
@aeldin131
@aeldin131 Жыл бұрын
I'm an Egyptian American as well. I'm 44 but only been to Egypt twice on vacation. I'm not an Egyptian Copt, as all my family is/was muslim as far as I know. Personally I don't do religion at all.. Anyway, recently I did a DNA test (23 and me) and to my surprise I found out that I'm 88% Egyptian Copt. The idea that Egyptians are now Arab invaders is utter disproven pseudoscience nonsense steaming from afrocentrism. Arabs invaded Egypt with 11 thousand soldiers, and the population of Egypt at the time was at least 15 times the entire Arabian peninsula combined. The idea that these invaders changed the demographics of Egypt which was one of the most if not the most populous countries in the area is comical. ALL modern DNA studies show that the overwhelmingly majority of Egyptians kept their hemomgeny. Arabs who reside in Egypt are mostly Bedieuns who kept to their own for the most part since being tribal is their thing. This is one of the biggest and latest studies carried out by National Geographic Geno 2.0 Next Gen findings: Modern Day Egyptians "Northern African (68% of the Egyptian genetic pool), Southwest Asia & Persian Gulf (17%), Jewish Diaspora (4%), Asia Minor (3%), East Africa (3%), Southern Europe (3%). Afrocentric theory which is BS pseudoscience that is a threat to other cultures, and can not be allowed to spread without am intellectual fight.
@bbwt9991
@bbwt9991 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I'm black my ancestors were enslaved by the Dahomey who in the Woman King were portrayed as fighters against slavery, when in fact they were the slavers and it was the French who used military force to stop them enslaving us. That was insult enough but now they are using us to promote a message, a lie. They are using just another form of blackface. Cleopatra was Greek, white, red haired and spoke Greek. However, she was the first Cleopatra (there were 6 Cleopatras before her) who bothered to learn Egyptian. As for the possibility of her being part black was impossible as, disturbing as it is, the Royal family practiced incest in order to keep the blood pure. They knew nothing of genetics back then. Side note, regarding the Cleopatra in this mockumentary.....her first husband was her own brother...... A bit like İlhan Omar. 😉
@JustMe99999
@JustMe99999 Жыл бұрын
Good points. I also think it's somewhat racist to assume that everyone in Africa is black... that's definitely not the case for Northern Africa. Africa is a diverse continent with many different cultures.
@KemetledAfrica
@KemetledAfrica Жыл бұрын
Shut up and stolen being a uncle Ruckus. History lesson time, when Alexander the great conquered new land, he was very keen on his soldiers marrying the local women. I don't know who ptolemy 1st wife was but I do know that for the first 77 years of the ptolemic dynasty, they never practiced incest.
@sepa941
@sepa941 Жыл бұрын
good point ,thank you for sharing these .
@robcampbell3235
@robcampbell3235 Жыл бұрын
Imagine my confusion when i read the book ”Barracoon” before seeing the movie ”The Woman King”. It was a bit perplexing. Interesting book though.
@moshe4787
@moshe4787 Жыл бұрын
I agree Cleopatra was a Macedonian and the Egyptians were a Hamitic people so what better person to play a Hamitic, Egyptian Pharaoh is a Black woman they just chose the wrong queen
@sleepymeimei
@sleepymeimei Жыл бұрын
The difference between the Mummy and this movie Cleopatra, is that it’s fiction vs supposedly non-fiction. The mummy takes place in a fictional world, cleopatras’ trying to portray itself as truth and “what she was really like”
@timothygremlin9737
@timothygremlin9737 Жыл бұрын
There was once a (black) queen of Madagascar, her name was Ranavalona I. I'm curious if they would ever make a series about her. She killed thousands of people by the way.
@tatianaoliveira2191
@tatianaoliveira2191 Жыл бұрын
A movie or show about 'Mansa Musa' would have been awesome
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus Жыл бұрын
I honestly think Hollywood is afraid to make shows and movies about _actually_ black historical figures because an accurate portrayal of their times would show that Sub-Saharan Africa wasn't some idyllic paradise that was ruined by white devils. Almost every powerful person in the past regardless of where they lived behaved poorly by modern standards.
@ishabiswas8224
@ishabiswas8224 Жыл бұрын
Let them try to do one our warrior/freedom fighter Queen Lakshmibai of Jhansi and show the truth of British Raj's torture and plunder. I DARE Netflix to try and make THAT docu.
@memoryofsalem4474
@memoryofsalem4474 Жыл бұрын
Theres also wu zetian if we want to talk about female empresses
@thewingedserpent5823
@thewingedserpent5823 Жыл бұрын
if you want to stay in the same time period and even want to cast the white romans as the villains (which they weren't really) then you just have to go a couple hundred miles up river from Alexandria to reach nubia where you would have perfectly fine black female leaders that you could make documenteries about, like amanitore.
@chrisdavey5530
@chrisdavey5530 Жыл бұрын
"My grandma told me I dont care what anyone tells you in school cleopatra was black"...yeah well my grandad thought I was his daughter's husband (my dad) for the last 10 years of his life sooooooo
@respectdawildo_danjones508
@respectdawildo_danjones508 Жыл бұрын
Another words, do what we say, don’t learn to read or question anything, that sounds right out of the f3minism indoctrination handbook lol
@Placidzzz
@Placidzzz Жыл бұрын
so grandma was racist as well, cuz all she cared was skin color.
@MikeScott-ez7iw
@MikeScott-ez7iw 6 ай бұрын
That was weak 🗑️ little girl Egypt is in Africa 🌍 it was known as kemet civilization not Egyptian civilization period 💯 Ancient Egypt was pure African people not Egyptian and Mediterranean dark 🌑 skin bs 💯
@fasillimerick7394
@fasillimerick7394 Жыл бұрын
I once heard someone complain that German TV show didn't have any African-Americans. In Germany.
@tagir9123
@tagir9123 9 ай бұрын
Yeeeeeah, we should be just BURSTING with Americans.....in Germany....oh,wait
@Malt0d3xtr1n
@Malt0d3xtr1n Жыл бұрын
Society isn't stupid, just slow. Some people catch onto things more quickly than others, and those people tend to be the ones who are hated for calling it out. But then, ever so slowly, everyone else catches on.
@doublep1980
@doublep1980 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that numerous historians & egyptologists have called them out on their deliberate falsification of history, incl. the director of the Egyptian Antiquities Ministry, you know the people who spend years studying ancient Egyptian history, but the grandma of that old lady, told her "Cleopatra was black" and she doesn´t care. Oh, btw. she´s supposed to be a professor that teaches "African studies" or something!
@mattm8870
@mattm8870 Жыл бұрын
Actually that old lady is a classicist which means she in meant to be an expert on the world of ancient Rome and Greece.
@doublep1980
@doublep1980 Жыл бұрын
@@mattm8870 No, she's not. She teaches ''African studies'' and I doubt that she has any knowledge of Sub-Saharan history either.
@MarvinPowell1
@MarvinPowell1 Жыл бұрын
Even the term "African studies" is kind of offensive. By woke logic, all Mexicans should be white/Caucasians. After all, Mexico is in North America, and North America is pretty much all white people, right? That's how it works, isn't it?
@LambertBowden56
@LambertBowden56 Жыл бұрын
"African Studies" in universities is probably filled with so much nonsense. A lot of it is most likely just trying to push a narrative that isn't true.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
The clip of the old black formerly-menstruating-person saying that her gran told her Cleopatra was black is literally everywhere and I love it. The level of retardation in that statement is beyond what I thought was possible
@fernandoamy8278
@fernandoamy8278 Жыл бұрын
Clearly, the whole world must be wrong because granny said so.
@SB-129
@SB-129 Жыл бұрын
​@Donald Donald "Well folks, _Mama's_ wrong again!"
@Jay9966
@Jay9966 Жыл бұрын
And some old people wonder why people don't listen to them. I was also pretty bewildered by that seemingly female human was able to sprout this level of bullshit. But you know what's EVEN MORE fucked up? THE FUCKING CLIP WAS PART OF A FUCKING DOCUSERIES AND NO ONE, NOT A SINGLE HUMAN ON THAT FUCKING TEAM THAT WORKED ON THE THING, NOT THE DIRECTOR, NOT THE SCREENWRITER, NOT THE PRODUCER, NOT THE EDITOR, NOT THE MARKETING GUY, NOT THE GUY THAT POSTED THAT SHIT TO KZbin, NOT ONE OF THEM, THOUGHT IT WAS STUPID?????
@randomusername3873
@randomusername3873 Жыл бұрын
Why would someone even say that, lol😂
@doublep1980
@doublep1980 Жыл бұрын
It gets even better, she´s an actual professor that teaches "African studies" at college!
@parapendejadas4913
@parapendejadas4913 Жыл бұрын
"Remember kids, no matter whay they tell you in school, Cleopatra was a 17ft male transformer"...
@SebasTian58323
@SebasTian58323 Жыл бұрын
There's also some tentative evidence that *could* point to Cleopatra being a ginger like myself. It's not solid, but it's more solid than the way they justify race swapping her. Basically, evidence for her being red-headed lies in couple of images that aren't confirmed but likely could be Cleopatra. These are some frescoes from Pompeii and Hurculaneum, as well as a cameo image made around her lifetime showing her with vivid red hair. Descriptions of the Fresco from Dr. Joann Fletcher: Painted image from a villa at Herculaneum portraying a red-haired woman whose facial features, royal diadem and hairstyle adorned with fine pearl-studded hairpins suggest a posthumous portrait of Cleopatra VII. There are many surviving likenesses of the Queen, including coinage she would have approved, Pompeiian frescoes, and Roman statues. We are fortunate she interacted so heavily with the Romans, because during this period they were big fans of creating accurate likenesses of rulers, including flaws and asymmetries. She had full lips, a strong Aquiline nose, and a small sloping forehead. And yes, I do want to thank you for mentioning all the black washing of gingers. It's so annoying how often it happens.
@englishatheart
@englishatheart Жыл бұрын
I'm a redhead myself and I am all for pointing out historic redheads, but do you realize they wore wigs back then? So it could have been a wig as far as we know.
@SebasTian58323
@SebasTian58323 Жыл бұрын
@@englishatheart Yeah, and I also said it wasn't solid, just more solid than their reasoning for black washing Cleopatra
@BlazingKhioneus
@BlazingKhioneus Жыл бұрын
why is it always the redheads that blackwashed? why is it never blonde or dark hair fairskins?
@AnInkStick
@AnInkStick Жыл бұрын
@@BlazingKhioneus I guess they just have a hate Boner for gingers
@bryanb6931
@bryanb6931 Жыл бұрын
@@englishatheart The Egyptians also used hair dye, I believe they were the first to do so.
@majorgear1021
@majorgear1021 Жыл бұрын
Nothing like kicking back after a long day at work with a Bud Light and a Netflix documentary.
@219nes
@219nes Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 dont you just love our new culture
@blockmasterscott
@blockmasterscott Жыл бұрын
13:14 I'm a white guy, and I've turned into exactly what Bag Face said about whites. Before all this crap started, I never thought about skin color when watching a movie. Axel Foley wasn't a black guy to me, he was just the main character in Beverly Hills Cop. Now all I see is skin color, and I get a knee jerk reaction when I see a black person on modern films, I automatically don't want to see it because i'm tired of virtue signalling. And I was not like that before.
@keankolodziejski1605
@keankolodziejski1605 Жыл бұрын
This is the goal of the globalists, divide and conquer, they want everyone to hate each other
@JDoe-gf5oz
@JDoe-gf5oz Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I watched The Patriot recently and the cheesy subplot about the slave and the racist white guy becoming best buddies was almost unbearable. They really have spoiled race relations in this country, possibly beyond repair.
@delpilarcueto1060
@delpilarcueto1060 Жыл бұрын
Same
@pauloa.7609
@pauloa.7609 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, pretty much that.
@nsfeliz7825
@nsfeliz7825 Жыл бұрын
im not white and i agree.
@noormohamed2429
@noormohamed2429 Жыл бұрын
As an Egyptian we will never let anyone steal our history and we will fight to protect it forever and ever
@nishatagore
@nishatagore Жыл бұрын
Good for you. They got award for nonviolence that they copied from Mahatma Gandhi. We are with you Egypt. Stop the owning of other people's culture and hard work. Give honor where honor is due.
@rgygduysdgyuygsduysd
@rgygduysdgyuygsduysd Жыл бұрын
Too bad the Egyptians couldn't fight off the Muslims 1300 years ago from destroying the Great Alexander Library 😞
@Ooomnia
@Ooomnia 11 ай бұрын
@@rgygduysdgyuygsduysdGreat Alexandrian Library was burned down by Caesar what are u talking about?
@peterxyh1
@peterxyh1 2 ай бұрын
How about the blackk Achilles?
@daytrippera
@daytrippera Жыл бұрын
Here in Argentina, after we won the World Cup, the New York Times published an article basically treating my country as racist because there's no color people in the national team no matter that we do have diversity (we are knows as the country of immigrants due to the millions and millions of people we received thru the last centuries), we are all mainly of European descent, and we have lot of Asians for example and we also have natives from our own country but no POC, and that was an issue to another country that knows nothing about mine. I perfectly understand what other countries (like Egypt) are going thru. The rest of the world is not the US, we have our own history, ethnicity, religions or lack thereof... just stop pushing your social mess to the world. We all deserve better than that.
@angelamaddalena8170
@angelamaddalena8170 Жыл бұрын
I remember that article and still think was stupid as f. Italy cheered for you guys, I surely did! 🎉 Viva i campioni 🎉
@tymanung6382
@tymanung6382 Жыл бұрын
Argentina also has Maria Resendo Del Valle Black Argentine woman Independence. war army officer ?!.
@daytrippera
@daytrippera Жыл бұрын
@Angela Maddalena grazie! I have Italian citizenship (in my father's side they are all Italians, came here to escape Mussolini) and I visited Milano 10 years ago. Beautiful city and beautiful people 🇮🇹🇦🇷
@daytrippera
@daytrippera Жыл бұрын
@Tyman Ung doesn't ring a bell to be honest. Couldn't find it on Google either.
@Lemmon714_
@Lemmon714_ Жыл бұрын
The vast majority of Americans aren't into the PC bullshit being pushed by the media and politicians. This is NOT a racist country like those lying assholes want everyone to believe.
@Rockstar-bq5fm
@Rockstar-bq5fm Жыл бұрын
Netflix has done other Docudramas like Ottoman: rise of empires which is quite good for the genre it is. It’s also very much culturally appropriate with all the main actors and most of the people behind the camera being Muslim and Turkic peoples. A Cleopatra doc probably sounded like another thing to add to the vault but when the people behind it are Jada Pinket Smith, Tina Gharavi and Victoria Adeola Thomas what the hell did anyone expect This was not a passion project by Egyptian filmmakers but a political statement by black American women hijacking another peoples culture Big take away from all this, Vet your fucking creators Netflix
@theathea3064
@theathea3064 Жыл бұрын
Well, you know it all depends on politics and strategic stuff. Who's America's friends. Greeks are not America's friends, neither is Egypt. All you have to do is check out who are Israelis besties.
@219nes
@219nes Жыл бұрын
@@theathea3064 well the Turks arent the friends of USA😂 believe me
@theathea3064
@theathea3064 Жыл бұрын
@@219nes they will again, trust me.
@219nes
@219nes Жыл бұрын
@@theathea3064 if the opposition wins yes. Not if Erdogan wins. He used Biden in his campaign and that was not friendly.
@muhmodalshraky4777
@muhmodalshraky4777 Жыл бұрын
As an Egyptian, this series angered me a lot, and the worst thing is that it links racism to defending the facts
@Charlotte226
@Charlotte226 Жыл бұрын
I think things have gotten out of hand an America and I'm an American this is absolutely ridiculous with what has happened and I'm so sorry that this happened I hope Egypt wins the case against Netflix.
@AH6man
@AH6man Жыл бұрын
7:49 I hate owens face right here. You can tell hes seething because he can’t spread his lies and ideology when faced with facts by a person from that culture.
@kostasastro
@kostasastro Жыл бұрын
When Julius Caesar said "I am all the Romans" and Cleo answered "I am all the Egyptians" and kicking him inside a bottomless pit yelling "Wakanda Forevaaaaaa!!!" while twerking and finally saying "Yaasss Queen!!!" was an eye opening and truly emotional moment that made me shed a tear. This is what documentaries should be and not the lies we are fed from history books. 🤪🤪🤪
@tiffancy9088
@tiffancy9088 Жыл бұрын
See this is what I hate. People unable to criticise black people without being racist. Grow tf up.
@219nes
@219nes Жыл бұрын
How is it racist? Twerking was/is very much involved in your african american culture. Wakanda aswel. So stop thinking african americans are united with all blacks, cause you are different than the beautiful people in africa. You have insecurity issues which we all understand looking back at your history. However, there are lines for everybody. Also for you. And dont tell me you aint american cause only you will react like this to this post
@tiffancy9088
@tiffancy9088 Жыл бұрын
@Scrangle Mcjangle I'm so sad to not have the approval of Scrangle Mcjangle.
@vikvondoom
@vikvondoom Жыл бұрын
Yeaaa you took it a little too far there… I agree the show is ridiculous and history shouldn’t be tainted, but this comment is pretty embarrassing. It’s possible to criticize without being racist my friend
@daisiesandpandas1218
@daisiesandpandas1218 Жыл бұрын
​@@vikvondoom they're not being racist, the references were all American culture not the Black race, there are black people outside of America.
@SailorGhost
@SailorGhost Жыл бұрын
At 0:33, I 'd love to ask that lady's grandmother : what kind of plant was she smoking? LOL😂😂😂!!!
@davidmiller9485
@davidmiller9485 Жыл бұрын
I have a lot of friends and family who live all over the world. I'm getting real tired of apologizing for my fellow countrymen and women who just refuse to grow up. It's so tiring.
@captaintoyota3171
@captaintoyota3171 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@brucenorman8904
@brucenorman8904 Жыл бұрын
Just tell them that because of America's healthcare system the people they see can't afford their psyche meds.
@planescaped
@planescaped Жыл бұрын
A startling ignorance of other cultures and especially their history causes a lot of people in America, Hollywood included, to have an extreme amero-centric view of the world. They think that other places outside of America not being diverse enough is them repressing their POC, and not just the countries not being as diverse as America. They don't understand America's history as an immigrant nation and with slavery, let alone understand all other countries aren't necessarily like that. They also can't divorce African culture and people from African-American culture and people. And yes, they are completely separate entities now. That would be like saying American's and the British are the same culture. The vast majority of the depictions of Africa and Africans in movies are closer to what you'd see in Atlanta than Addis Ababa. Many seem to think all other nations were founded by a Mayflower of ethnically and culturally diverse cavemen landing on their shores, only for ol' whitey to seize all the power. They have no understanding of how cultures spread, form, migrate and coalesce over time, because American schools do not cover the subject in any way. Just the American notions of Manifest destiny and the immigrant migrations. Hence the confusion of the educated idiots in Hollywood over the backlash to the casting in Rings of Power. They don't get it, and see racism rather than try to understand. What we are seeing these days is a direct result of the failure of the American school system to give a well rounded education, and the result of a new generation entering Hollywood to "write what they know".
@jordanjackson4840
@jordanjackson4840 Жыл бұрын
The Movie Cynic: “If you’re ever in a relationship and you’re wondering if it’s toxic, compare it to how Hollywood handles criticism and if the tactics are similar….Get the f**k out! Run!” That is 100 percent facts!
@marlinlovato
@marlinlovato Жыл бұрын
These corporations basically abuse marginalised people as a spear for marketing and a shield against legitimate criticism. Annoying as hell...
@janewalsh7633
@janewalsh7633 Жыл бұрын
Great comment.
@chinchilla415
@chinchilla415 Жыл бұрын
Kalergi-plan also ties into this. It's not a coincidence.
@marlinlovato
@marlinlovato Жыл бұрын
@@chinchilla415 As the daughter of a Jew living in germany... heard that before. And it's bullshit. Leftist ideology is no excuse to become as insane as them.
@erasmusvanbiervliet1772
@erasmusvanbiervliet1772 Жыл бұрын
The ridiculous sword fighting "yas queen" was the final drop for me
@irena4545
@irena4545 Жыл бұрын
You don't need to an actor to look just like the person they are supposed to play, that's what makeup and wigs are for. - Speaking of which, Cleopatra's busts and portraits show quite clearly what hairstyle she wore, and it absolutely wasn't an afro.
@crazylegs1823
@crazylegs1823 Жыл бұрын
In a documentary, yes you should get an actor that looks as close to the historical figure as possible.
@irena4545
@irena4545 Жыл бұрын
@@crazylegs1823 But why, if you can apply various aids to achieve the desired look?
@doublep1980
@doublep1980 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: ancient Egyptians used to shave their heads regulary ( both male & female) and the upper classes wore elaborate wigs. Why? Because the Egyptians had a massive problem with head lice and back then, there was no anti-lice shampoo so shaving your head was the best solution. I´m not trolling, look it up. So, imagine if the real Cleopatra was having an afro haircut....
@JakXLT
@JakXLT Жыл бұрын
@@irena4545 Facial structure, vocal inflections, the fact that entire nations would take issue if you misrepresent one of their historical figures.... And of course the all-important dollar. Costs more to pay for a makeup artist to fake someone's entire appearance than to just hire someone who already looks close enough to the part.
@cyberedge881
@cyberedge881 Жыл бұрын
I just want it to be believable. If a Korean actor plays a samurai character in a movie set in Feudal Japan I don't care so long as he pulls it off.
@Platypus_Gaming_1
@Platypus_Gaming_1 Жыл бұрын
I miss the time when movie makers would actually do their research and physically go to other countries in an attempt to get accurate representation of the people and events in said country (provided that the film is set in a different, real world, country that would require such care in order to, you know, not be completely offensive towards the people they’re making a movie out of).
@AbhijeetMishra
@AbhijeetMishra Жыл бұрын
They're actually making a stupid decision by blackwashing so many characters when it comes to foreign audiences. Here in Asia, for example, many people prefer actors with fair skin, especially the female characters. John Boyega didn't get downgraded on the Chinese poster for Star Wars for nothing. It's not as bad elsewhere, such as here in India, compared to China, but it's something these guys still need to keep in mind. This "look at diversity, look at our activism" kind of marketing for entertainment doesn't work in this region of the world.
@anthonynoel57
@anthonynoel57 Жыл бұрын
And ironically, given the context of the discussion, the reason for that preference in China is because they were taking sub Saharan African slaves as far back as 813 CE, 700 years before the West started it's slave trade of Africans.
@venod3134
@venod3134 Жыл бұрын
Black people are hated by all of you in other words... heard.
@alihenderson5910
@alihenderson5910 Жыл бұрын
It's not made for those markets though, it's purely a 'fuck whitey' exercise.
@thetechnocrat4979
@thetechnocrat4979 Жыл бұрын
​@Lala Emm It is a part of their agenda. They are black supremacists masquerading as activists.
@brucenorman8904
@brucenorman8904 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonynoel57 China was NOT taking slaves from Sub Saharan Africa.
@kostasbiker9302
@kostasbiker9302 Жыл бұрын
Problem is that even IF Egyptians were black Cleopatra still wouldn't be, Greek Macedonian lmao.
@billmcdermott9647
@billmcdermott9647 Жыл бұрын
There apparently were Nubian rulers who would have been black but by all accounts…she was not
@kostasbiker9302
@kostasbiker9302 Жыл бұрын
@@billmcdermott9647 There were, for less than 100 years. But nah they have to pick a recognizable name.
@billmcdermott9647
@billmcdermott9647 Жыл бұрын
@@kostasbiker9302 that’s thing as well….you could use other rulers but they also want the popularity so they go for the well known people
@JDoe-gf5oz
@JDoe-gf5oz Жыл бұрын
Their logic is she's mixed black because they don't know who her grandmother was (which automatically means she's black).
@MrS-pe6sd
@MrS-pe6sd Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, the inspired Brendan Fraser mummy documentary. It’s like trying to have a rational debate with five-year-olds.
@Nero-984
@Nero-984 Жыл бұрын
not just they are disrespectful to other country's culture and history, now they are truly racist when claiming others who value the truth and correct them racist. That actress and director should also be sued, not just Netflix
@alatar2015
@alatar2015 Жыл бұрын
"I don`t care what they tell you at School... Palpatine was a Teletubbie!"
@notredboi
@notredboi Жыл бұрын
No he was clearly a unicorn
@alatar2015
@alatar2015 Жыл бұрын
@@notredboi LMAO True XD
@Cravonis
@Cravonis Жыл бұрын
As a white male I agree with your review because I can see myself in the host
@carolynrjackson
@carolynrjackson Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 brilliant! 😂😂 Good one! 😂
@bugsy742
@bugsy742 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant 😂🤝
@0037kevin
@0037kevin Жыл бұрын
This video cut right to the heart of the matter. It said everything ive been thinking about pop culture lately and much better than i couldve. If only more people were this insightful and thinking clearly. Maybe the world wouldnt be so terrible....
@markolitvic6981
@markolitvic6981 Жыл бұрын
00:57 "Giancarlo Esposito is... ELON MUSK"
@pacoramon9468
@pacoramon9468 Жыл бұрын
1:58 Has to be an inside joke in Hollywood at this point, they isn't a single redhead character in a Disney remake that hasn't been raceswapped.
@fmc291
@fmc291 Жыл бұрын
I remember my grandmother telling. I don’t care what they tell you in school, dinosaurs don’t exist. We put her in a home later that day.
@cjcrrazy
@cjcrrazy Жыл бұрын
You should have auditioned her for this role
@penguinvic9892
@penguinvic9892 Жыл бұрын
My grandmother got locked away for believing plants talked to each other … and then some guy makes serious money with a book about the secret life of plants. Still reckon my old dear departed grandmother could have given better historical advise to Netflix, than they got for this travesty.
@ur.9330
@ur.9330 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Netflix next documentary "I Am Mandela" staring Tom Hanks as Nelson Mandela 😂
@edlawn5481
@edlawn5481 Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the remake of "Shaka Zulu" with Leo DiCaprio playing Shaka.
@pat442389
@pat442389 Жыл бұрын
cleopatra was also a terrible queen. She lost her crown twice, betrayed her allies, was a huge coward, got passed around by the leaders of rome and made egypt a vassal of rome by the end of her reign.
@pom700
@pom700 5 ай бұрын
This is not true Egypt thrived abundantly during her reign and the people loved her.
@pat442389
@pat442389 5 ай бұрын
@@pom700 egypt had grain during that time but they didnt thrive. when you have multiple coups and are subsequently taken over by a neighboring rival, you arent a good leader. Her and her brother's poor decisions led to the ptlomey's losing egypt.... something they held onto since the since of alexander the great. she was the last ptlomey and was a bad leader. idk how you can even argue that. egypt lost its independence under her.
@innosanto
@innosanto 3 ай бұрын
Egypt was already a vassal of Rome. Do you know any history? But it was the richest and Alexandria was the best educated city at the time
@pat442389
@pat442389 3 ай бұрын
@@innosanto Yeah what happened to the library during her reign? Who ruled Egypt after her? The Ptelomy's never had another ruler after her because she lost her crown, made dumb political moves over and over again and didnt secure her line of succession. How was she a good queen? And yes Egypt was a vassal of Rome but it was uniquely independent and respected.... until Cleopatra
@cowel8734
@cowel8734 Жыл бұрын
My favorite part was when Cleopatra kept it real' and shouted "Wu-Tang" after putting the other "Egyptians" in check
@hemaccabe4292
@hemaccabe4292 Жыл бұрын
I think it's a sign of hope for our society that this racist horseshit has been so universally rejected.
@iamsinistar8971
@iamsinistar8971 Жыл бұрын
Honestly if they made a documentary about Cleopatra this bad imagine the chaos that would happen if they tried to do this with a subject like World War 2.
@sigmac8810
@sigmac8810 Жыл бұрын
Funny you should mention the toxic relationship thing, because that's exactly how my narcissistic ex behaved. When i reacted to his abusive behavior, he would call me oversensitive, over critical and tell me its not his fault that i chose to view what he did in that light. He would talk me in circles until i felt like the bad one and i would end up apologizing. I was just thinking the other day that the responses of those in charge of this documentary reminded me of him.
@maximiliand2544
@maximiliand2544 Жыл бұрын
They could have scored a win by lifting up all women. Then they could have used Boudica, Cleopatra (Macedonian), Joan of Arc. The list goes on. But no. They have to appropriate for points.
@jameslars7391
@jameslars7391 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait till they make Joan of Arc black
@memoryofsalem4474
@memoryofsalem4474 Жыл бұрын
Wu zetian, Rani lakshmibai, qin liangyu and even chevalier deon
@Juhno
@Juhno Жыл бұрын
I love how many people don't seem to recognize a conspiracy theory as a conspiracy theory if it doesn't come from a certain direction on the political spectrum. Black Cleopatra is clearly a conspiracy theory.
@thespartan8476
@thespartan8476 Жыл бұрын
Greece needs to sue Netflix too.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Man, with how terrible this year is and how horrible content has become, I look back on the older decades and think, “Man, the past was better.”
@HansKlopek
@HansKlopek Жыл бұрын
Diversity is our strength. This is progress they say...
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
@@HansKlopek😂😂😂😂😂😂👎👎. Seriously, I want a good story with good characters, not pander
@Batman-yb1iw
@Batman-yb1iw Жыл бұрын
I'm only watching shit from the 80's 90's and up to mid 2000's now, from there the creativity drops off a fucking cliff unless you enjoy video games
@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Жыл бұрын
Honestly back then there wasn't any "Twitter" or "Tik Tok Liberators"
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
@@Batman-yb1iw Mid 2000s were honestly 🔥
@zaphodthenth
@zaphodthenth Жыл бұрын
On a hunch, I looked up "Actresses that have played Cleopatra" and one entry led to a Ranker article: It mentioned an actress from Chile named Leonor Varela Palma who played her in 1999, Theda Barra in 1917, Canadian -American Florence Lawrence in 1908, Magali Noelle Guiffray a French actress/singer in 1963, Jeanne d'Alcy in 1899, and many others. So Why are they harping about Elizabeth Taylor ONLY?
@DesiCat789
@DesiCat789 Жыл бұрын
Because she’s the most popular 💁🏽‍♀️
@glishev
@glishev Жыл бұрын
Now, let's imagine the real Cleopatra seeing this 'docu'-drama. She'd probably send for the executioner.
@TheRedMonarch6540
@TheRedMonarch6540 Жыл бұрын
"Whats wrong with hiring a black actress" ok please keep this same energy when they make a white black panther or static shock or a white blade.
@SonGoku-fc7ci
@SonGoku-fc7ci Жыл бұрын
the mummified remains of someone else😂😂😂😂😂😂
@lorrainegrattan8528
@lorrainegrattan8528 Жыл бұрын
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@amistradd5392
@amistradd5392 Жыл бұрын
See the guy stupid face at 7:44 when confronted with truth and how they felt about how Egyptian treat both Cleopatra's portrayal equally the same? That is how much they felt entitled to be correct at all cost eventhough the facts does not side with them. Repulsive to see these kind of people not acknowledging their fault
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