Nemesis Reborn Review | An Alton Towers Reimagined Classic - but is it Better than the Original?

[@EmeraldIV]

2:11 the 'rust' was actually hand painted on. when the ride first opened in 1994 the supports also featured this fake rust (similar to how some of FLY's supports look) but i think in either 2016 or 2017 they gave it a full repaint and only added fake rust to the track

[@rideexpedition]

yeah, the track was repainted in 2016 & the supports & station were done in 2017

[@triple7marc]

It was still “rust” to be fair

[@quagsiremetalhead1401]

If you haven't already, I would highly recommend John Wardly's auto biography. Most of Alton Tower's classic rides are all designed by him, he was a genius and one of my heroes. He came from a background in theatre and dark rides, which is why all his rides are so dynamic both layout and theming wise

[@nickshillito1170]

Just downloaded it on my kindle and started reading after seeing this comment. Thanks for the recommendation!

[@joecandish3923]

Nemesis Reborn is awesome during the day but at Night is when this ride really shines it comes alive the waterfalls glow red and there is lighting everywhere including a blue light that flashes when passes over the vertical loop. This is hands down a top 10 night ride. Best opportunity for a night ride is Alton After Dark March, Scarefest October and Fireworks November

[@CoasterStudios]

would love to do this at night!

[@stevebrown1974]

@@CoasterStudios Visit at the end of October at Halloween to do Scarefest and hang around for a week until their fireworks weekend!

[@changaaleikum2954]

same with taron and f.l.y. at phantasialand. different beasts at night.

[@IWC5LFC]

Definitely fireworks 👌

[@reputation8383]

I've never understood how Nemesis manages to build so much speed on such a small first drop. On the back row, the move from the drop to that first corkscrew is absolutely insane. Even with Hyperia, Nemesis Reborn is still my favourite UK coaster.

[@drdewott9154]

My best guess is simply the tightness of the elements, both that corkscrew and the following turn are extremely tight even by B&M standards. The fact it's inverted might help since much of the weight sits higher and therefore when the track is upside down in the corkscrew it sits lower. I'd assume it probably makes it easier to clear the element that way than if the same layout had been attempted with a conventional non-inverted design.

[@reputation8383]

@drdewott9154 that's a great explanation, thank you!

[@BBROPHOTO]

I asked my new GF if she liked rollercoasters and said that she has only ever been on one and it made her really dizzy. I asked which one it was and alas I smiled when she said it was the one where your legs hang at Alton Towers. At least she's been on one of the most legendary rollercoasters 😅 That helix is SO epic when you first experience it. The ride just feels like it's constantly picking up speed which makes it so cool.

[@bthrx]

I cannot wait for the day I get to ride this. Without a doubt one of the coolest themed coasters and areas.

[@Mechum22]

I’m guessing that 104-foot "drop" is just the height difference between the crest of the lift hill and the base of the vertical loop. I’m so glad Alton Towers decided to keep Nemesis alive. It’s such a brilliant and inspired attraction (and I’m also very partial toward old-school B&M inverts, hehe).

[@zero-gravitythrills7163]

I think it’s lift hill is 104 feet tall and the drop is 40 bc that drop is way less than the hight

[@somethingsinister8493]

@@zero-gravitythrills7163 The 104ft drop its referring to is the drop before the loop, it's the largest single drop on the ride, it just happens to be half way through the layout which I think is pretty cool!

[@samuelhonywill4499]

The corkscrew into the helix is my favourite moment on any coaster period. It FEELS like an angry alien is flinging you around. How it gains that much speed is an utter nonsense. Mystic juju powers this ride, I'm sure of it.

[@JJJJ-he8bz]

Greatest color scheme ever

[@Glebborama]

Rode for the first time on a chilly grey day in late September and didn’t detect a rattle at all. I found it extremely smooth and all together thrilling. Definitely a front row ride and yes the back row right seat works best for experiencing the forces. Because of the inverted seats I find these types of coasters work best on the near misses and this one is incredible in that regard. Theming isn’t always important to me but it makes a huge difference here. I loved this ride.

[@Harrythepot]

Sit back it's fright time! 1994 this coaster was top draw and now it's back again with a bang! Great video as always

[@maxhagenauer24]

The layout of his things is absolutely fantastic. I love the old school Batman like B&M Inverts and this is one of them but with terrain.

[@joshslater2426]

It’s one of the best coasters in the UK, and was definitely worth re-tracking for future generations. I can only speak for the new reborn version, but it has an intense layout, great theming and epic music.

[@alexius_1]

Nemesis Reborn is absolutely insane!!

[@brteller]

Agree on all points, it's such a great ride and the theming brings it all together. It felt unreal and seeing all the actors run around I was also thinking "how long is this going to last?". I also notice the slight jolt into the brake run but it really wasn't a big deal to me. Most of the old B&M's that are smoother do this as well and I had just assumed it was a matter of me getting older and nitpicking.

[@Coastermatics]

Can you do a top 10 coasters in the UK. I really liked your rankings of the Australian and UAE coasters.

[@andori_AB]

I'd argue the Big One might be more famous amongst UK GP, even thouhh Nemesis definetly is more known in the coaster community.

[@Clumpkin25]

I'd agree with that. They're both iconic coasters but The Big One is more famous.

[@olibonser9592]

Personally I’d say Nemesis

[@zero-gravitythrills7163]

But big one is not as good

[@ThemeParkArchive6]

@@zero-gravitythrills7163the drop in the back tho

[@all-caps3927]

No I disagree. At the moment the popular ranking in the UK is this : 1. Hyperia 2. Nemesis 3. Stealth Then maybe the big one. Marketing is all that matters, and in the UK Blackpool pleasure beach pales in comparison to Thorpe and Towers marketing wise. I’d say that beyond coaster enthusiasts and locals, the big one isn’t THAT famous.

[@TalentedTom91]

Nemesis is and always will be a legendary coaster! It’s just an awesome overall experience. No1 cares for super tall, it’s just super fun instead 🥰

[@CoasterThunder]

I agree 100% this one of the uk’s best rollercoasters and probably my favourite themed one. My one problem is the colours of the ride and the buildings clash with the rock-work but apart from that this is a stellar attraction 🤩

[@crispy7274]

nemesis reborn got me over my fear in april this year and i have never felt a rattle while its coursing through the actual layout, it jolts like once or twice at the turn at the end but its really smooth, ive ridden it over 25 times and never felt any rattle

[@johnnymacchicago]

I want to see this for Raptor, my favorite invert.

[@markymark-r]

Nemesis has feelings too 🦀

[@devonlykins7070]

4:27 I just figured that was a piece of the old track they painted to use in the queue.

[@MicheleBroughPlussideLtd]

This ride is such a golden experience it means the world to me what a killer queen

[@Fuzzywuzz71]

I couldn’t have been happier that it was re-introduced. As a UK citizen. I couldn’t be luckier to have it here. There might be better coasters. But holy hell was that re-theme worth the wait

[@Imjustkev2024]

This ride looks beautiful

[@TridentCoasters]

OG Nemesis and Reborn are very similar. The only thing I miss is the harsh brakes at the end

[@seanmiller8151]

Very well done by Alton Towers!

[@duffs101]

Try to get to the park in October or November with the late closing. Riding it in the dark is a whole different experience.

[@SousaphoneMusic]

it's better than the original because you can still ride this one!

[@SwitchbackSylveon]

Nemesis was the coaster that made me an enthusiast; it was my first B&M coaster, first coaster with inversions and is still in my top 10. Theming wise I kinda liked the more rustic, apocalyptic feel of Forbidden Valley compared to the new military base feel but I haven't seen it in person yet, I last rode it in 2019, so seeing it in person I might like it more, I just felt the old theming blended in with the surrounding nature more which gave it a sort of Chernobyl vibe, I think it could fit in with the story though; that what was once an abandoned area had been taken over by the Phalanx and turned into a containment base which involved replacing all the old infrastructure

[@stevebrown1974]

It's not too bad in person, I think the change is quite subtle in some ways. Basically apart from the helicopter where the mining tool thing was on the mound, everything that was rustic brown has just been painted black and a few dark red tentacles now hug some of the rocks that are around the area. It doesn't feel military at all.

[@fletchy40]

I really do wish I’ll get the chance to ride this one day 🙂

[@Darkimane]

Speaking on the smoothness, I can see where you came from compared to 2018, however having rode nemesis in the late 21/22 season before it closed, I personally felt it was getting a little rough, especially on the back row where it felt like you were really getting flung around the train/restraint itself rather than around the ride layout. I think the decision to effectively rebuild nemesis by Alton Towers was the best choice for the park, they could have closed the ride down but instead have preserved, and improved the experience for generations to come; I can only hope that other parks can spare some of their iconic attractions in such a manner.

[@1trackmindcoasters]

I actually figured out why new B&M's all have some sort of shake throughout the layout

[@eriklakeland3857]

Why?

[@1trackmindcoasters]

@eriklakeland3857 it's the bearings. B&M used to have custom made bearings for the wheels and now buys cheaper ones to cut costs and it causes the wheels to become a little more loose

[@Hyruleanknight028]

I live in the uk so i can go a lot more then people who live elsewhere in Europe or in the states and i think it's amazing 🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@BBROPHOTO]

10:25 - *stares at Six Flags Great Adventure*

[@maxhagenauer24]

It opened just 2 years after Batman the Ride at Six Flags Great America but it was the 4th B&M Invert to ever open. There were still 2 that opened between SFGAM Batman and this.

[@NerdyandNerdier]

As a wise man (John Wardley) once said, "It feels like your feat are gonna crack against the rocks!"

[@TSL_jack]

early. you guys are legends but please take back what you said about oblivion

[@stevebrown1974]

Have you seen any footage of the Alton Towers fireworks from last month? Definitely recommend it if you haven't, it's incredible. The whole 30 minute show based on the Phalanx and Nemesis, continuing the story and lore of the ride.

[@CoasterStudios]

we have not, but that's really cool! I love that.

[@stevebrown1974]

​@@CoasterStudios Definitely worth watching, there's loads on here. Just make sure you watch the full show and not one someone has edited. If its about 30mins long it'll be the full show. And even better to experience one of their shows in person. By far the best firework show in the UK.

[@flash-dk1cc]

Just watched phalanx expo . Puts some major cities to shame on new years eve . The Phalanx has fricking lasers . Dr Evil would be impressed .

[@SwiftTelly20]

I am disappointed that new B&M coasters aren’t as glass smooth as they used to be (no clue what has changed for there to be a rattle/shaking🙁🤷‍♀️). Nemesis is in my top three favourite coasters ever. I really hope I will still love this new track and enjoy the whole experience like every time I’ve ridden it before. I’m so happy you loved both iterations of Nemesis ☺️. I’d be upset if you didn’t like it. Yes, other parks around the world should take note of what can be done to a ride or attraction. Revamp or repair older rides instead of replacing them. It’s a shame you didn’t visit the uk 🇬🇧 sooner (your first visit should have been between 2005 and 2010). I’m now wondering what Merlin will do with its sister coaster Nemesis Inferno 😰it’s not that much younger so it might need new track soon. If that ride was just demolished, I’d be heartbroken 💔😢(my top three favourites are nemesis, nemesis inferno and duelling dragons). I love B&Ms💖.

[@ThrillseekerYT]

we travel 4 hours most at 100 mph but it is still going to be my 2nd favourite smiler being 1st

[@dynamations_04]

I have had at least 3 consecutive front row rides

[@foofoo-g9o]

Got a front row night ride during scarefest, best thing ever, was I lucky?

[@amusementparkperson4474]

I wouldn’t be too surprised if Batman at SFGAm were to be considered for a retrack. It always seems to have over an hour line (even though it is 33 years old) and the public sees it as a classic (much more than the others). The biggest problem would be the cost.

[@Dirkschneider]

I haven't ridden Nemesis Reborn but it looks fun. However, I am worried about the trend of low to the ground coasters. It seems that tall lifthills are becoming a rarity these days with the popularity of launch coasters and the increasing number of parks with height restrictions.

[@AidanStead-bp8rr]

This layout is over 30 years old and it was built in a park that can't build above the tree line due to being on protected land And besides, this park's sister park just opened the UK's tallest roller coaster the same year this rework happened so I shouldn't be too worried

[@Yonel6969]

i mean alton towers literally has no choice. locals will be upset and its a historic landmark too. besides you dont need height for a great ride

[@EliteRailVideos]

Great veedio

[@richardski2218]

The theming is fantastic and it's such a smooth ride now too! Well worth my visit back in May!

[@Charlzey1998]

The only thing I don't really like is the new queue line, yes it gives amazing new views but even when it's on a quiet day it takes the best part of 5 minutes to walk through before you're at the station as the old queue line is now the fast track :/

[@CoasterStudios]

thats fair!

[@HarryMellor-d4c]

Reborn is better themed than the original, that’s for sure. Best at towers, wicker,an second and smiler third.

[@foofoo-g9o]

YESSS FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREEESSSSS

[@foofoo-g9o]

WHENEVER I SAY I PREFER WICKER MAN AND NEMESIS REBORN TO THE SMILER PEOPLE GO " oH BRo StOP HaTInG oN ThE SmILER ITs ThE BeST In ThE WORlD"

[@TheBroz]

@@foofoo-g9oNothing at AT is the best in the world…

[@TheNo.1nerd-lookin-noob]

I think this would be a favorite of me and my family, of us 6, 4 liked Montu more than Gwazi! Only me and my dad liked Gwazi more!

[@thecoasterman682]

If busch gardens Tampa would remove kumba and montu entirely they can just relocate them to my home country the Netherlands. There they can get new paint, new trains and new theming and they'll be much easier for me to reach them.

[@MichelleRyanDeFina]

UK Theme Parks Are Interesting.

[@CoasterStudios]

very, haha. some fairly dark themes. its kinda awesome

[@MichelleRyanDeFina]

@CoasterStudios I know right?

[@dpt108]

So if there is no front tow queue, how do you get front row? Go they assign you a row? Would be disappointing if you can’t wait for front.

[@CoasterStudios]

they have a grouper

[@Cyber_Chriis]

9:17 Mack has also some rattle issues. What’s happening at these manufacturers?

[@CoasterStudios]

I think the issue with some Mack coasters is their trains use a wishbone design for the seats, so you have one singular support holding the load of two seats- you're also a bit higher up wish means a greater chance of noticing vibrations

[@foofoo-g9o]

Glah

[@RowanT04]

When will we see an updated top 25 in Europe?

[@CoasterStudios]

maybe sometime next year!

[@dindog22]

Did B&M hand paint the spine of the track or was an artist hired after the track left B&M?

[@CoasterStudios]

I believe it was done in the UK by a local team near Alton Towers

[@CoasterPrototypes]

1:24 the trains aren't actually new. They are just referbs of the originals

[@CoasterStudios]

got it!

[@pleasurebeachthrills2693]

It’s definitely not really up there with top quality rides and neither is the area. They had a lot of potential to actually theme the area to a good extent. A lot was missed but probably down to budget. The ride isn’t as good as the original in person opinion but what I will the colour scheme is better

[@BBROPHOTO]

Just wondering, do we know *why* new B&Ms have a rattle? Is it a manufacturing change or design change in trains?

[@CoasterStudios]

Can't say for sure, but my thought is something in the track manufacturing process. Tough to say.

[@ryanleeuwis1602]

Have you guys ridden monster in walygator ?

[@CoasterStudios]

we have not, but we have done Raptor at Cedar Point which is the same layout

[@ryanleeuwis1602]

@CoasterStudios yea, so where would you rank monster (raptor) in the European b&m inverteds? I have it as my no1 inverted coaster (i have never been outside europe)

[@detroitdiezel7856]

So, did he ever really say that the new version was better or not?

[@DeenaMilkers]

resident evil the ride

[@TheNo.1nerd-lookin-noob]

My first invert was Dragonflier, that was the world’s biggest disappointment. Then I went to BGT and got on Montu, now rides like this and Oziris have gone up my bucket list by easily 20 spots or so. (Not all B&M inverts)

[@CoasterThunder]

You’ve gotta remember that dragonflier is a family coaster but I haven’t ridden it so what do I know 🤷‍♂️. Anyway this ride is worthy of your bucket list

[@TheNo.1nerd-lookin-noob]

@ I know! It’s just when I went to Dollywood I was just starting to get interested in coasters, so I didn’t realize it was a family coaster, and had recently saw a video of Nemesis so I got super excited then it let me down.

[@290coolkid]

I feel like this coaster’s theming HAD to have been at least residually influenced by resident evil.

[@nitefly99]

Yeah… Resident Evil 6 =[

[@Deccyweccy8]

Th13teen review when?

[@foofoo-g9o]

Never

[@CoasterStudios]

We want to, but it’s next to impossible to get any footage of it. There’s no off ride angles and we don’t have a pov so we have basically nothing to show.

[@Bebnok]

90% of the footage would be of the lift hill.

[@Deccyweccy8]

​@CoasterStudios it does suck, it's a shame there's only off ride shots of the lift hill and the pre drop from Rita's queue line.

[@owl.mp4]

this review was only 6 months late!

[@CoasterStudios]

we waited to post it until after our vlog had released, and unfortunately it came at the end of our trip, which meant we had to wait to post everything that came before it first.

[@shabbee]

Unfortunately it was broken down as we're almost 50% of the main rides when I visited in October. Big disappointment 😢

[@ithem0nst3r]

The theming us spectacular

[@AG7-MTM]

Three upgrades I wish occured: 1. Remove the pre-drop, just have it flow into the drop like Olziris or Banshee 2. Replace the old brake run with magnetic brakes & add a third train (3 train ops?) 3. TIE NEMESIS SUB-TERRA INTO THIS RIDE! (Visit the observation chamber, disturb the creature, then ride Nemesis to sedate the creature)

[@whoopie_cushion5]

The brake run is magnetic now

[@idkwhattoput936]

it does have magnetic brakes now but 3 train ops wouldn't work because of how short the layout is and they regularly stack trains with 2 trains

[@joecandish3923]

1. Is integrated into the design so you would have to alter the layout not to mention it could cause more speed resulting in more wear and tear on track with the profiling not designed for more stress. 2. Old Brake Run has been replaced by a Magnetic Brake and not enough room for a block section nor 3rd Train and already has a high capacity, plus most 3 train operated Inverts have stacking. 3. Nemesis Sub Terra is great stand alone attraction its a filler ride so takes queues away from the main rides, and is too far away from the main nemesis as there is a service road in between.

[@andrewcombes]

The lift hill is still original, just repainted, so removing the pre-drop would have been difficult.

[@kriss_b]

They arent new trains just a repaint of the old ones

[@William_Does_Coasters2255]

This is factually incorrect. They are new trains made by Bolliger & Mabillard.

[@MGMutt]

​@@William_Does_Coasters2255they're not, the chassis of the trains is the same, but all the seats, brakes and bogies are new

[@William_Does_Coasters2255]

@@MGMutt Ah, ok. As this is not a well known fact, I apologise for being factually incorrect!

[@Chloe9UO3]

im still salty about the new soundtrack, sounds awful in comparison to the old one

[@Yonel6969]

saying it sounds awful is crazy to me

[@William_Does_Coasters2255]

You know a ride is good if people are complaining about the soundtrack

[@cosmicvortecs]

Doesn't sound awful, but the old one was much better imo

[@joshslater2426]

I much prefer the newer music for how dramatic and cinematic it is. I did listen to the old one but it just sounded weaker in comparison.

[@Chloe9UO3]

@@joshslater2426 i dont think the new soundtrack is that dramatic or cinematic, to be honest. but for me, the old one just had a unique atmosphere and vibe that really made the area come alive. it felt richer and more immersive in a way that the new one doesnt quite match

[@lixrides7514]

Nemesis is overhyped, it’s absolutely a good ride. But not the best inverted.

[@MakBot]

The Ka outro hits harder considering the subject matter of this video :(