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At this point, everybody and their mother knows that the 737 is old. As a matter of fact, it is the oldest major commercial airliner still being built today. Over the course of its 50 year history, it’s been tinkered with time and time again, and has undergone 4 major revisions to keep the plane economically viable. Now, this approach has drawn criticism - Boeing’s refusal to outright replace it has been lambasted as downright lazy. But, that’s not entirely true - each time Boeing re-engined the jet, they had a very good reason to do so. So, why has Boeing decided to revise the 737 so many times? Let me explain...
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[@osasunaitor]

_"An 8-hour flight in a 737 sounds like a nightmare..."_ *A321XLR wants to know your location*

[@omarvi280]

Lol

[@sadmanh0]

Airbus is quiter though

[@kuebbisch]

I don't care about the plane, I care about my personal space in relation to the duration of the flight. 1-2 hours: I don't need to move, cram me into a seat where my knees touch the seat in front. 2-4 hrs: when the person in front reclines the seat I would like to continue using my tray table with my tablet or laptop. >4 hrs: let my squeeze from a window seat to the aisle without troubling the travellers in my row. So I would fly a 737 or 320 for longer flights if they only have 15-20 rows of seating.

[@joefarah]

A321 has wider seats though and will be slightly more tolerable

[@ce1834]

I’d take the Airbus rather than go radio silent on a 737 🤣

[@VynZography]

"An 8-hour flight in a 737 sounds like a nightmare..." doesnt matter what plane it is, you still get your 1 square foot of space in economy.

[@JAnx01]

I'm 6"4' and I can almost strech my legs in an Emirates A380 economy, but get completely sqashed in an Ryanair 737, to the point where I can't even lean back in the seat properly.

[@entfy]

Boeing’s failure didn’t start with the continued extension of the 737 program. It was the failure to replace the 757 and then attempting to put the 737 in its place.

[@ysfsim]

wrong. the 757 production stopped because of lack of sales

[@entfy]

@@ysfsim ... i never said anything about production quitting. i said boeings failure was not replacing the aircraft with a newer version. But i was definitely talking about the 757 sales... definitely

[@Mike-jv8bv]

@@ysfsim basically the 757 was the right plane sold in the wrong time.

[@usayeed727]

Couldn’t agree more. The 757 was well ahead of its time now that point to point is becoming the model of choice for airlines today. If they modernised the craft I can easily see it being a home run for Boeing.

[@xenomorphbiologist-xx1214]

@@ysfsim lack of sales at the time

[@Casskario]

1:28min these small Engines look so strange nowadays 😅

[@itzfaroff456]

Yea lel

[@byronfranklin3612]

Those engines look smaller but they had way more power, today they use the big fan jets because they’re much more fuel efficient. I’d still like to ride on an old 737 with pure jet, they were so much more fun to ride on the acceleration on takeoff was unreal

[@AmauryChihuahua]

@@byronfranklin3612 Pure jet no limit lol

[@Turboy65]

@@byronfranklin3612 That's literally not true. Both the JT8D and the CFM56-3 engines had a base thrust of 18,500 pounds and went up to 22,000 pounds in specific versions. Their thrust ratings were essentially identical.

[@paullim1933]

it's not just about power, it's also about noise, the bipass allows for the soudwaves produced by the engine to be deadend.

[@christiangranum7387]

Long haul = twin aisles. That’s the truth. I love flying longer routes on the 757, but for 6 hour plus routes I prefer something like a 787 or an A350. Or something like that.

[@CptMehdi05]

The A321XLR will change this

[@daltonmojica]

@@CptMehdi05 How will the A321XLR change things for the OP when they clearly stated that they prefer twin aisles for long-haul routes? The A321XLR may have the range and efficiency, but it still remains a cramped narrowbody with a low ceiling.

[@CptMehdi05]

@@daltonmojica even tho, a long haul small capacity aircraft is what airlines needs theses day cuz the corona virus crise lowered the demand on many long haul routes, and airlines couldn't fill there A380s B747s... which mean less profit or even loss. So at the and the A321XLR is the perfect solution for this problem.

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

@@CptMehdi05 true

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

@@CptMehdi05 when will it be in service

[@kenblack1051]

For someone who knows so little about the industry, that was super informative. Thanks!

[@rdfszyug8035]

@Cr0Dan of course

[@susieq2334]

@Pepe sure🤣

[@hermanoguimaraes]

I already took this flight from Brazil to Us in a 737. To be honest, in the economy class, there is not so much difference between widebody and narrowbody. It was fine.

[@giamannguyen797]

Toi cung di 737 van tot van on: van di a320: tai sao nguoi chau au: lai che bai boeing qua nhieu:da so hoa co thanh kien voi boeing:

[@Lee247Jamaica]

2:28 they coverd up the 737s eyebrows

[@sheereenaali8448]

The Eyebrows are useless. They came from the outdated 707 and 727.

[@Lee247Jamaica]

@@sheereenaali8448 and the pilots said the sunlight was really anoying

[@sheereenaali8448]

@@Lee247Jamaica They Did Say that and Current Automation Makes them useless.

[@adb012]

I would take a 737 in an 8-hour flight ANY TIME provided that I have a minimum survivable legroom. My most uncomfortable flights were in an ElAl 747, and Air France 777, a United 767, and an American 787. I don't care how wide is the fuselage if my femur doesn't fit between the back of my seat and the back of the seat just in front of me.

[@GH-oi2jf]

Alaska Airlines has premium seating behind first class which has more legroom.

[@adb012]

@@GH-oi2jf ... Yes, may airlines have "premium economy" which is basically "what standard economy was 10 years ago but twice as expensive".

[@xander1052]

The only widebody I've been on is a 767, couldn't tell any difference between it and the 737s, A320s and A321s that I mostly get to take when travelling shorthaul across europe.

[@billm47645]

I would only do that flight in first class as I did on an Aeromexico 737 from Mexico City to JFK. The way down was first class in a 787. The 737 is one of the most uncomfortable 3 seat row airplanes in coach. The slightly more narrow fuselage make the seats just a little more narrow than an A320, which makes a big difference. Some of my most miserable flying experiences have been on full Southwest flights, whereas a cross country flight in coach on an A320, especially on an airline like JetBlue with plenty of legroom is a comfortable experience.

[@solracer66]

Just a note on the term "Lazy B", while it is seen as a comment on the company and it's workers (an inaccurate one I should note) it's also a spoof of the branding term for letters that are on it's side and the slant of the Boeing logo. Now technically the term "lazy" doesn't strictly apply as the Boeing font, called Stratofont (or Stratotype) because it is at the same angle as a 377 Stratocruiser's wings, is at 37 degrees and the branding term usually means 90 degrees but it's close enough to make a joke.

[@sportsMike87]

I’d take a long flight on a narrow body if the leg room was normal to more.

[@rmm3803]

What difference does it make whether it's a wide or narrow body?

[@tomatosoupwoo]

@@rmm3803 , Space between seats.

[@tims4654]

Widebodies are comfortable for long flights, including better pressurization, less dry air, larger seats with more space in all directions, and quieter engines.

[@Alb410]

@@tims4654 Wait, then shouldn't narrow bodies be better?

[@JRSoubasse]

I’m 6’4”, and I’d rather fly a long flight on an ERJ-145 than a 737-800 or 737-900.

[@chrismckellar9350]

I agree with Coby comment. The B737 airframe has reach its limits for further enhancements mainly due to the the low under carriage restricting larger bypass jet engines as seen with the B737 MAX fiasco.

[@crazzzi4u68]

Boeing isn't lazy, it's just choosing priorities. 777x seemed more appealing than the 797 (or other new design that could've replaced the 737)

[@bananaboyxgaming1218]

boeing wasn't building a 797 to replace the 737 but to replace the 757

[@andrewtaylor940]

I thought there were some rumors and signs just in the last week that Boeing has dusted off the 797 program and wants to get it going ASAP? Apparently 737Max orders are on the soft side (for obvious reasons) and nobody wants the huge widebodies right now.

[@mattevans4377]

I mean, they could just restart 767 passenger production.....

[@danp9551]

Corporations of this size can not and do not lack resources per se. What they lack is the will to invest in order to have said resources. Prioritizing cost savings and short to medium term profits led them to where they rightfully wound up now. The US big three car manufacturers are another good example of this behavior.

[@gregcoste5332]

@@mattevans4377 While the MAX was grounded, the hottest jet on the used market was the 737-NG. My solution was to restart the NG line and abandon the MAX. Quicker (no recertifying type), cheaper, and way less risk of another crash. But still, there is that stupid factor?

[@alhdgysz]

I don't care wether the plane is single or twin aisle. That doesn't determine mine comfort. The airline's greediness is much more important (row count). If I have enough legroom, I am happy to fly an 8 hour flight in any kind of plane

[@probableflaws3597]

Agree, other than load times the narrow body has zero effect on my comfort. It’s all about leg room and seat comfort. I’d fly 12 hours in a narrow body with 36 inches of pitch versus a wide body with the industry average. Obviously if all things are equal I’ll take the jumbo but it really does come down to airline greed. Smashing us in smaller spaces with thinner seats to boot.

[@bonelesswatermelon420]

I don't really mind the space onboard a narrowbody for long flights. What I do mind is the seats to lavatory ratio, which can be a greater nightmare on these long flights.

[@fensterlips]

My wife and I flew from SFO to Maui on a United 737. It was sheer misery. I had no idea that the 737 was being used on a long ETOPS route like this. The seat pitch added to our pain. It couldn't have been much over 30 inches. We'll never do this again. We too will pay the extra money for a 787 or A330

[@fzambroni]

I flew this Gol flight a couple of times. It’s a nightmare. Specially if you don’t choose some extra space seats.

[@SoloRenegade]

there is a difference between an old "design" and an old "airframe".

[@SoloRenegade]

@maverick aviation An old design, tweaked over time, is modern.

[@Ghost-kj7kv]

I grant you the highest honor one can give on youtube... have a sub

[@cobyexplanes]

🔥

[@bananaboyxgaming1218]

@@cobyexplanes Love Your Vids

[@CaptainK007]

Still running the 707 fuselage on the same certification as the first 737. Certs never been updated allegedly

[@AadidevSooknananNXS]

I flew once on a 737-800NG from Port of Spain (just off the coast of Venezuela) to Toronto YYZ once, wasn't half-bad actually

[@AadidevSooknananNXS]

@Toby W Haha yes!

[@mikemontgomery2654]

I might have planned your flight.... seriously.

[@AadidevSooknananNXS]

@@mikemontgomery2654 damnnn, that's cool!

[@athleticguy15]

As long as one is not real tall, the 737 legroom is fine. Over 6" and you may start having problems.

[@AadidevSooknananNXS]

@@athleticguy15 meanwhile I'm 6'3 😅

[@darrencoles4894]

I’ve travelled from Cairns (Nth Queensland Australia) to Singapore on Silk Air, that was about 6.5hrs. It’s no fun on a narrow body B737NG when half of the length of the cabin is full of pax waiting to use the loo.

[@pqrstsma2011]

my first trip on an A380 was Dubai to JFK/New York on Emirates, in 2013; i found the seat really cramped, and also happened to be seated near a mom with her crying infant... but i've also flown A319s of Aeroflot from Moscow to Dubai, a 5-hour route, and they were fairly comfortable.... so what i'm trying to say is there are other factors besides plane size to affect the comfort of your trip

[@GrantDolanMusic]

Remember that that the 707, 720, 727, 737 and the 757 have the same basic fuselage. Flying on a 737 max today for 8 hours feels the same as flying a 707 in the 1960’s for 8 hours. The major problem is that air travel has not fundamentally changed since the 1970’s with the introduction of the A300, 747 and DC 10.

[@davidm8669]

The birth of the 737 came from the 727. take note of the cockpit section, the same as the 727, the next section removed, the main landing gear now vertical and the engines moved to the wing.. Just saying.

[@RedLP5000S]

Don't forget the 707. Same cockpit, but with a bit more height added down below.

[@aseem7w9]

I wouldn't have a problem getting on a 737 of a good airline for however long. For example Singapore Airlines is having flat beds on their 737 max which would make it pretty comfortable.

[@hbarudi]

"flat beds" are you sure that is not business class?

[@fredmdea785]

We also need to consider the fuselage's width. If they removed a line and made the 737 have a 2 3 scheme, it could be more comfortable. In my experience in a copa airlines 737 in a 6h flight, it was basically the same as a short haull 737 with just a few cm more leg room. It was truelly awfull.

[@aseem7w9]

@@hbarudi yes its business class. but not all business class have it

[@aseem7w9]

@@fredmdea785 more than fuselage length, the configuration matters more. Boeing 787 is wider than A330 but since airlines use 3-3-3 on 787 economy, it's seats are narrower than the narrow A330 with 2-4-2.

[@fredmdea785]

@@aseem7w9 preciselly, if a 737 had a 2 3 config than it would be comfortable for those long flights

[@og_blue3925]

Great explanation of the decisions of Boeing Coby.

[@sadiqahmedabubakar6634]

Its sad that Boeing a Engineering company allow financial people run it.

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

Exactly

[@ariefbudi427]

@@kirilmihaylov1934 it's always has been

[@yoyoyoyoshua]

Boeing went from a engineering company to a management company.

[@etiennec8139]

Last time I fly a 777-200 during 8h30 and it was already painful, mostly because of the seat (yes, even in premium economy). Did the same in an a350-900, much more tolerable. I can't imagine doing this in a single aisle with no place to move or stretch during the flight

[@TairnKA]

I started working on 757 development, then some on the 737-NG and a bit on the 747-400, but my favorite will always be the 757 (hot rod of the sky). ;-)

[@usayeed727]

Absolutely love the 757 I hope Boeing modernises it

[@farazalam3325]

I asked my mother about this.. She doesn't seem to understand what I was asking 0:05

[@alphamalegold]

Lmao

[@Lee247Jamaica]

Lol

[@bencarpendale]

madlad

[@osasunaitor]

Fucking legend

[@edp2259]

i would fly 8 hours in a 737 but only in "first" class

[@vijaygautam1406]

'Until we see you again, .... don't forget to look up!" 😊 Thanks for posting this good analysis.

[@CitizenZero1]

I was on a 6-hour 737 flight with the MAX seat configuration and it was awful. The bathroom was tiny.

[@bluebox2000]

They seated you in the bathroom?!

[@CitizenZero1]

@@bluebox2000 hah! No. The seats were thin and hard. My head touched the ceiling of the bathroom.

[@David-jj7dy]

737 makes a great private jet for families. You can put three bedrooms in it abf two bathrooms. Perfect for ky family. Its not a super huge jet, so a dining room we didn't put in. My kids don't stay around much anyway for actual sit down family meals anyway. They spend most of their time in their bedrooms on their phones or computers. The butler just brings them food and it works quite well. We travel quite a bit, and looking to get a bigger jet. But , in the mean time the 737 is a comfortable plane.

[@mylesdias8453]

I wish I earned enough money to ponder decisions like this. You demonstrated excellent logic too, by the way.

[@DeeDubious]

The plane just looks beautiful! Doesn't give a vibe that looks "dangerous" to all who board it you can say.

[@ascelot]

plane was badly designed and rushed though production to compete with airbus, hence the larger engines are much closer to the wings which effected its flight, this was supposed to be fixed with software MCAS system, but unfortunately it crashed 2 planes, had several law suits. I personaly wouldnt get a 737 Max plane

[@hilleltulchin]

You could be stuck on the Island Hopper for 15 hours...

[@bullwinklejmoos]

Been there, done that.

[@jdp0316]

The 737 is the jeep of the airplane industry they have been almost exactly the same for years but people still love them. The airlines love the 737 there are several 737 only fleets. And to me the 737 looks a lot better then the a320

[@bojanglesthewizard8875]

It's also easier to work on from what I've been told

[@bmused55]

It is important to note that the 737 that rolls off the factory floor today has actually very little in common with the first 737s. Yes the fuselage is the same shape (if elongated by a lot) the wing, tail, tail plane, gear, fairings, flaps, etc are all much, much newer. All new for the MAX. Visually they look similar, but under that fuselage skin, they are very different. Also, long haul on a 737 shouldn't be that much different to a widebody. I've flown across the atlantic on 757s which basically have the sale fiselage as the 737. So long as the seat is comfortable with enough leg room, the experience isn't any different that of an A330 or 777. I hear people bleat on about "twin aisles or more comfortable on long haul" but I have yet to see it. Two aisles = double amount of food/drinks trollyes being pushed around and double the amount of passengers standing, blocking the aisles.

[@barryhomes1]

Despite all of the 737 Max issues, I consider the 737 family a kin to Porsche 911 introduced in 1964. The modern 911 vs the 1964 is wildly different but very much the same. Both 737 and the 911 are evolutionary not revolutionary. When a totally new design comes out there are so many unknown it take years to find the underlining issues (something as complex as a plane, there are always underlining issues). When you use an evolved design, these small changes can be focus on and are generally safer. The Porsche 911s is a great designs. However 911s all have there weird issue and drive similarly (such as oversteering etc). Yet better brakes, power, stability, top end, etc as time has gone on. So goes the 737. This issues with the MAX was Marketing hide the differences. The Max is stable. But it handles very differently than the other 737 NG family. There should have been training for those differences. Evolutionary design is are likely to be safer (if the old design can keep up). Revolutionary designs jump to the future. But requires much more review to be safe. Thx for an other great video. Barry :-)

[@karamsaviation2813]

As long as it is an ng or max, I would have not problem on an 8 hour flight on the 737. As long as it is not Ryanair

[@SmileFlame3]

Hail no I want to comfortable with i am throwing up

[@elliotwilliams8249]

A new Coby Explanes video is exactly what I need right now.

[@cobyexplanes]

😁

[@bobcoradini8610]

Swiss via Privat Air used to run an all Business class 737 from EWR-ZUR. Long Flight on a 737 is oK if not sardined 3x3 across on a single aisle. However for flights over 5 hours, seat width starts to rise as important as pitch and the longer the flight (8+ hrs and 10+ hrs) width matters a lot. Boeing needs to adores this in a re-design. Best Long-haul arrangement in economy is never more than 1 seat from aisle meaning 2x4x2 if twin aisle and 2x2 if single aisle.

[@Shumi-kr3tc]

Never heard anyone say Boeing is lazy. Poor management decisions and greedy yes, but not lazy. Had Boeing not outsourced so much of the 787, they would have had the time & resources to design a true replacement or Had Boeing accepted that the MAX would require a new type certification, instead of trying to keep the same type cert, Then they would not be where they are today.

[@gregcoste5332]

Where Boeing had a chance to turn right rather than the left turn into lunacy was the 787 Dreamliner project. The Dreamliner was a spot-on plane that Boeing needed in its catalog, however its decision to subcontract much of its major build parts to outside partners nearly crashed its program before it got off the ground. Cost overruns were massive and the Dreamliner was years late. Consequently, the clean-sheet redesign of the 737 was postponed till it ran into the American Airlines "put-up or shut-up" challenge. Boeing didn't think it had the money or time to go ahead with a clean-sheet 737 and the 4th gen would be faster/cheaper (on paper) and answered Americans Airline's challenge with the MAX. One other point remains for Boeing's future from its nightmare. A major problem with the Dreamliner was its carbon fiber fuselage, this was a component that they had hoped to sub out to a vendor but crashed and burned and had to buy the failed attempt and bring it in-house. Boeing is still not comfortable with carbon fiber fuselages, yet the benefits are what its customers want going forward. As the Dreamliner program was hanging by a carbon fiber thread, Boeing executives were having nightmares about how Olive Beech, lost Beechcraft over the carbon fuselage of its Starship program to replace its best-selling KingAir model. So now Boeing is restructuring and playing catch up with money tight .. Airbus is on easy street (though it will never recover its money from its A380 program) and its A220 program is going gangbusters (Boeing at one time owned Bombardier and blew it). Boeing lives in fear of the next MAX crash, as it will easily be the end of the program and make Boeing number 2 (pun not intended) for a generation. No Boeing is not lazy, but stupid is still up in the air?

[@mboutidemmkpong4408]

A Cobyexplanes video is the best New month welcome 🙂

[@cobyexplanes]

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[@jamesmasters4255]

797 family will replace it. The family will be the equivalent of the A320 family

[@larrydugan1441]

Nope. The 320 is a 1980s design. It too would have to be updated to be competitive with a clean sheet 797

[@jamesmasters4255]

@@larrydugan1441 obviously airbus will draw up a new design but A320 is more than adequate against the shit show that is the 737MAX.

[@larrydugan1441]

@@jamesmasters4255 you Airbus fan boys are tiresome. The 737 sells very well because it is a capable aircraft. I would not hesitate to fly on it and I have 8000 hrs PIC on the 320 and it's derivatives.

[@jamesmasters4255]

@@larrydugan1441 the 737s reputation is in tatters. 2 massive fatal planes crashes and near 300 people dead, because of incompetent engineers at boeing. Get a grip, boeing is a heap of shite.

[@larrydugan1441]

@@jamesmasters4255 I am not making excuses for Boeing's design failure in this particular case. It has been fixed. That does not make the aircraft a piece of shite. Arguing with a layman is a waste of time. Neither of the two Boeings would have crashed with a competent crew at the controls. Just as the Air France 330 would not have crashed into Atlantic for a similar flaw.

[@j-maxfromor1895]

I’ve really enjoyed Coby’s solar/battery videos, and was surprised and wary of the switch to aviation. But I’m impressed he has done his homework and does a similar great job of presenting the info. So I hope he continues to grow this business. And on that point, I need to say that I don’t mind the commercials. The ones about the Oregon fishing boat/social distancing and the couple enjoying using Alexa were really funny, and I had to share with my family and friends.

[@cobyexplanes]

What solar/batter videos?

[@j-maxfromor1895]

Oh oh, how embarrassing. I got you confused with Will Prowse. Anyway, I do enjoy your videos.

[@danharold3087]

Yes MAX crashes were very bad. But unlike you say in the video it had nothing to do with the long in the tooth airframe. These planes were crippled by adding the flawed MCAS which they hid from the pilots. It was a timebomb. Quora "Apr 11, 2021 - 737MAX does not need MCAS at all to fly safely. MCAS just artificially makes a 737MAX behave like a 737NG in certain small corners of the envelope."

[@chriscarr1301]

They haven't been lazy, just cheap!!

[@GeorgeVCohea-dw7ou]

to the shareholders' delight kzbin.info/www/bejne/eouqYZ-Ljc-rnLs

[@rmm3803]

3:46 Glass cockpits sound cool and all, but I read an article the other day with an F-35 pilot saying that they have a major drawback. In high G situations or in severe turbulence it becomes really difficult to place the finger on the precise spot required on the screen. Apparently, physical knobs, switches and/or buttons are much easier to work with under those conditions. So much so that in combat training, they disable as much of the glass controls they can get away with and use backup systems. instead.

[@aarondynamics1311]

The controls themselves are still physical buttons on the A320 and 737, it's just the displays that are glass

[@SK-uz4rs]

I did ~11 hrs in a 737 back in 2008. It was not as bad as you might imagine, though mainly because the aircraft was configured with all business-class seats. AMS-IAH - a KLM flight, though contracted out to Privatair with cabin crew provided by Swiss. I burned some NWA miles for a award trip, and booked this flight just for the sheer novelty of it. The flight itself wasn't anything to write home about (when compared to other business class products offered at the time, that is)...but I got a good story out of it.

[@KingTriton1837]

This was a great explanation of the goings on at Boeing. Well done, good sir!🍻 Also, as someone who is 6'7", I hate getting onboard the A320 or the 737 for any length of time!!! Lol.

[@SuperFlyCH]

I feel you pain, although not 6'7", I am just shy of 6'5". If the person in front of me reclines their seat, it jams a little metal cross bar that all seats have, right into my knees. I either spread my legs into the space of the people next to me or I'm in serious pain for the rest of the flight. I can't stand seat recliners....

[@tydjayowen6122]

Not related but I love your PP it's from goofy god comics Right??

[@kuebbisch]

@@SuperFlyCH I am 6'6" (198cm) myself: Put your knees about the seat width apart, no more reclining for the person in front of you. I had them call the attendant complaining the their seat was broken 😀 Otherwise: I don't care about the plane, I care about my personal space in relation to the duration of the flight. 1-2 hours: I don't need to move, cram me into a seat where my knees touch the seat in front. 2-4 hrs: when the person in front reclines the seat I would like to continue using my tray table with my tablet or laptop. >4 hrs: let my squeeze from a window seat to the aisle without troubling the travellers in my row. So I would fly a 737 or 320 for longer flights if they only have 15-20 rows of seating.

[@justslidemsphm1208]

I'm 6'4" and every time I get onboard A320 my head touches the ceiling.

[@M1chlos]

I can't imagine, as someone with as measly as 1.91m (6 foot 3 I believe) single aile aircrafts is something which I hate with passion. I mainly struggle with legroom, because I have unreasonably large feet.

[@davidcole333]

One huge advantage of wide body aircraft on long haul flights is that it gives the passenger a means by which to get up and walk laps around the plane every couple of hours. This really helps with circulation. There's no practical way to walk on a narrow body. I'm with Coby...if the flight is more than 6 hours, I look for a wide body aircraft.

[@mrdr89]

Video idea maybe? Could you go over the airline industry deregulation? How things were before and after?

[@michlo3393]

"Lazy"? As opposed to adding _NEO_ to everything?

[@rayyansaleh8178]

'software update' 🤡

[@michlo3393]

@@rayyansaleh8178 That's fair :D

[@robbie19143]

I do NOT want the 737 history to end

[@hbarudi]

While the 737 has its problems, the 787 now has all of its problems taken care of and is the primary Etihad airways flights from Chicago to Abu Dhabi direct non stop. With social distancing on board, it is possible to take 3 seats and lay down to relax on that 14 hour flight.

[@twinchantillytiffanysbenny8852]

The a321neo was so uncomfortable to fly in. Our flight was 5 hours! In a narrow bodied plane that long is painful. Single isle planes are not good for long flights. And the airbus we were in was a year old and it rattled and squeaked, and the engines were so buzzy and loud. A very miserable flight. The 737 I flew in was three years old and was super comfortable. Still a single isle! But the flight was 1 hour, so you don’t have to fight the food cart to go to the restroom.

[@intantarmizi6138]

Is it just me or do i love the 737-200 design

[@hagopakasparian7732]

The layout is very similar to WW2 fighter ME262

[@athleticguy15]

They're still in use in Canada as passenger planes because they can land on gravel runways.

[@luisandrade5126]

Long haul flights in narrow-body aircrafts isn't as rare as we trend to think. Prior to the 747/DC-10/L-1011 incursions, the available airliners were indeed narrow, with 3-3 row configurations (B707, VC-10, IL-62)... and even 2-3 ones! (DC-8 and I don't know if also CV880/990). It seems we are coming back to those days with of course a lot more of in-flight and personal entertainment options and less fancy service though. Still, I'm part of the widebody long-haul flight generation, for which it would be hard for me to fly on narrow for more than 6 hours. However, I did fly on the hump of the 747 in coach class up to 11 hours, in a narrow 3-3 configuration, which wasn't bad at all. The difference there was that I counted with a spacious side compartment between seat and window and had the possibility of walking downstairs to the spacious cabin.

[@ferdburfel7447]

When my Dad worked as an engineer at Boeing the employees called it "the Lazy B". I believe it was a reference to the gentlemanly pace of the place at the time, the mid '50s into the late '60s.

[@Kevingenender2]

I flew a 737 NG from Buenos Aires, Arg to Punta Cana, DR roundtrip (the flight was supposed to be with a Max but we all know what happened) it was about 8 hours with a stop to refuel and when i was younger i used to travel a lot with Copa Buenos Aires-Panamá in a 737 NG for about 7 hours

[@dougstrable5056]

I took the 8 hr ANA Boeing 737-700ER all-business class flight from Tokyo to Mumbai. With only 36 seats - I could walk around, talk to the crew and see outside very well. The comfort really depends on the seat configuration!

[@Speedster___]

Would you consider doing a series about different airlines and thier model such as SouthWest KLM Aeroflot etc?

[@nagalakshmi8894]

Yes he should

[@Steve_in_NJ]

I've flown Oakland California to Maui on a B-737-800 and that was about 5 hours. It wasn't too bad but I would want a bigger plane for International flying because you can.

[@ppeterson9359]

1:31 I'd heard of those devices that hang below the inlet that blow air to prevent sand/gravel from being injested into the engines. Looks like this airplane has a gravel shield on the nose wheel too.

[@DJ99777]

I love the way the muscles in your neck move as you talk.

[@walttrotter535]

I use closed captioning, and I don't know why but sometimes videos get posted and are captioned in different languages. This one is in Vietnamese. Just FYI. Love your channel, longtime aviation buff.

[@cobyexplanes]

Hmm that’s strange...

[@walttrotter535]

@@cobyexplanes Eh, I can put on my processor and use headphones. Plus you enunciate very well and its easy to lip read. No worries it's nothing you did or didn't do.

[@cmulz2372]

I personally wouldn't mind flying 8 hrs on 737 provided I'd ample leg room. I flew on 5 hr flight on an Ethiopian 737 to Delhi. It wasn't bad, and 3 additional hrs if comfortable wouldn't hurt.

[@aviationchannel6204]

I usually fly an 8 hour flight with an Airbus A330. It's really comfortable.

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

Boeing has fucked up big time lately

[@Lee247Jamaica]

@@kirilmihaylov1934 true but damn dont swear

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

@@Lee247Jamaica ok

[@Lee247Jamaica]

@@kirilmihaylov1934 .

[@justslidemsphm1208]

A330 flies everywhere these days. Most of times I book a flight I take A330. Annoying.

[@moriver3857]

Yes, 8 he flight in a 737 is a nightmare. Just weeks ago, I chose to make a connection using A321 and B777, than take a 4.5 he. direct flight on a 737. And I've been in the airline business for almost 30 yrs., and gone around the world twice, so I know. Brasilia to Orlando in a 737. Wow, that's painful.

[@zaahirpatel9427]

This is the earliest I've been in a video

[@widget787]

I flew on 757s for 8-9 hours many, many times so I see no problem flying on a 737 for eight hours as long as the seats are not too cramped/legroom is OK.

[@tyfrank3427]

I think that Boeing should replace work on building a replacement for the 737 rather than the mid size twin aisle plane. The original 737-100 was 94' long and the Max-10 is 143.7' long so it is stretched 50' from the original airframe. Out of the 737 Max series, the 8 is the most popular by far, but there is a lot of demand for the 10 as well, but the 7 has very low demand. I want an opinion on this from engineers and aviation enthusiasts. But the Boeing 737-8 is 129.5' long. Should they try to build an all new narrow body design with the base plane being the equivalent of the 737-8 but can be stretched up to say 165' long? This approach may replace the aging 737 and 757 combined and through careful design, may be able to produce an aircraft that bridges the gap between today's 737 and 787. Is that possible?

[@sanandaallsgood673]

An 8 hour flight on ANY narrow body jet is a nightmare! That includes the A321XLR. Give me the wide body every time! Especially the 787-9 or 10.

[@Leemaan]

as a brazilian, on my vacation to usa, i flew on this 8 hour gool flight, it was on the 737-8 max and it was not that good but many times cheaper than other companys

[@christiantosumbung5791]

The money goes to stock buybacks instead of investing in new designs. Methodical design takes a lot of resources so no quick return vs slapping a new engine on an old plane. Still haven’t made any money really on the 787. Likely also because of the shortcuts during the design phase.

[@brentflora8965]

Duuuude you gotta be knuts, Coby! Sao Paulo to Miami?? I thought that I had walked a tight rope, a 757 of Delta airlines, 8:30 hrs, Atlanta to Brasilia non-stop, took me back to the days I flew Varig 707, Brasilia to Miami!!

[@johnmoss8230]

It's a stable aircraft! Not to mention the classic cockpit look/eyebrow windows and faster landing speeds but the Max shouldn't have happened. great video.

[@bojanglesthewizard8875]

Max is still a good aircraft, but Boeing shouldve done an upgraded more fuel efficient 757 program

[@teagle1064]

I’m sure the clean sheet airliner that Boeing scrapped to continue the new Gen 737 would have cost much more than the Max because of the composite materials. I’m with you Coby, I don’t think I want to spend 8 hrs in a 737

[@clmk28]

I have done Nairobi - Cape Town on a 737 thats 5.5 hours.

[@mikemontgomery2654]

That’s about average. Longest Ng flight I planned is YYC-LIR.

[@sylviaelse5086]

Doesn't matter how big the plane is, my economy class seat will be barely adequate. So I'm not basing my ticketing decisions on plane size.

[@adb012]

Give me an emergency exit row and I'll fly that 737 to the moon and back. I prefer that any day over a middle seat in a middle row of coach in a 10-abreast / zero legroom Air France 777.

[@caroldud78]

Awesome video. All explained well with bedtime story like rhythmics; concise and no conjecture.

[@smileyeagle1021]

An 8 hour flight on a 737 sounds like a nightmare... but, if it is a choice between 8 hours on a 737 or an hour on a 737, followed by an hour layover, followed by 7 hours on a 777, followed by another hour layover, followed by another hour on a 737, I'm going to grin and bear the 8 hours in a 737.

[@jamesnicholls9969]

as you said the airlines wanted it as it was cheaper in training costs. a single type rating for the entire B737 range of models. its a pity they put in MCAS on the max, as it seems that it was not needed at all, and the crashes would not have happened. there are videos about this on youtube

[@Susy5solo]

The number of seats across isn’t as critical for me as the amount of leg room and the seats amount of recline, but width of the seat does make a difference as longer flights you want to sleep and if I’m crammed up you can’t..on most short haul aircraft I’ve been on stowage is always an issue too. So the cabin configuration is key. That said the size does make for a smoother ride...the A380 for me is the comfiest I have flown on even in economy. More so than a B777, from the same carrier.

[@NorthernChev]

Gosh, I didn’t know I thought Boeing was lazy... Thanks for telling me!

[@ranbirbalse1709]

First time being this early to a Coby Explanes video

[@zaahirpatel9427]

Same

[@hunterayers6879]

Same

[@cobyexplanes]

Same

[@kevinc9006]

You got some videos to make...GE90 for the win!!!

[@markiangooley]

Given enough legroom I could probably face an 8-hour flight on a 737 without trepidation. Not my first choice. My last one was on a 777, which was fine.

[@iwitnessedit6713]

You forgot to mention that the changes made to the 737 still are under the original type certificate, yes from back in the 60s when airliners crashed more often , for many reasons. A newly designed aircraft undergoes and must adhere to much more stringent requirements, hence you have the MAX debacle. Boeing should have gone forward with what would have been the best narrow body, but money maters and they had an ego to compete with AirBus and they would not be shuttering have of their facilities in Seattle.

[@sylwekr1100]

Clicked captions and it is hilarious😂

[@jasonharvey9649]

Choosing short term gains over longer terms gains due to a corporate culture that rewards sales/C suite and directors on yearly targets instead on non-yearly/longer targets

[@mirzaahmed6589]

Insel Air? Now that's an unfortunate name.

[@jmtorra8726]

Ive taken the 737 from Bogota' to Rio de Janeiro (6 hours-remember Brazil is larger than the lower 48 US)... thank and it had little distance between seats.... thankfully I felt asleep

[@Turboy65]

If you were to design a replacement for the 737, you'd end up with a fuselage of about the same dimensions, with about the same payload, same number of seats, and range. The 737 DEFINES its market segment and yes there is plenty of growth potential for a Gen 5 737. But while you could call it a 737, it would be a completely modernized design with a composite fuselage and heavy usage of advanced composites and materials wherever they offer a benefit. Basically just build an all new similarly sized aircraft and name it the 737 Ultra family. I've flown in enough 737s on long flights to know that they're reasonably comfortable. Want wider seats? Upgrade to business class. Yes, the 787 is a great comfortable plane to fly in, but when I flew in those I was in business class anyway.,

[@Inkling777]

With the 737MAX the real issue isn't that Boeing decided to extend an aging airframe yet one more time. It is, after all, a design with a remarkable safety record. It's that it downplayed safety to be able to market reduced retraining costs to airlines. It's upper management seems to have been too stupid to realize that those previous versions of the 737 had been safe precisely because of Boeing's aggressive safety culture. Remove that culture and any design, however venerable, could have serious safety issues. That is what happened with the MAX. In addition, there are more than a few of us who suspect that Boeing Corporate in Chicago tried to save money by assigning the design of crucial systems to cheap but inexperienced developers either here (H1b) or overseas (India). That's about the only way to make sense of the insanely flawed design of MCAS. No one experienced in aviation would have created such a horror.