Coffee With Reason Ep. 2: Muslim vs Christian DEBATE

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Voice of Reason

10 ай бұрын

In this episode of Coffee With Reason, we react to the recent Muslim vs Christian dialogue that took place on the PBD Podcast hosted by Patrick Bet-David.
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@DigitGangsta
@DigitGangsta 10 ай бұрын
As a Muslim, I believe it would be better if they brought someone that would represent Christianity better. I hope that if you Voice of Reason ever plan to have a discussion with a Muslim, have it with a person that is suited for the discussion and not just a random dude who calls himself a Muslim.
@Ange0967
@Ange0967 10 ай бұрын
Islam was equated to Mafia, if you dig deep enough Mafia was invented by Muslims. What kind of discussion can you have with people of such nature?
@alihayderimran385
@alihayderimran385 10 ай бұрын
Muslim invented mafia😂 stop smoking expired weeds
@tacom0nsta658
@tacom0nsta658 10 ай бұрын
@@Ange0967 hahaha what a clown...
@katyana92
@katyana92 10 ай бұрын
@@Ange0967😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 You have been grilled accept it …
@brandonwiles-n8t
@brandonwiles-n8t 10 ай бұрын
@@Ange0967 sounds like you missed a drag queen story hour
@kurtninogano
@kurtninogano 10 ай бұрын
Proud Catholic, From The Philippines🇵🇭🙏❤️🇻🇦
@El-VULTURE.LOCO13
@El-VULTURE.LOCO13 10 ай бұрын
Respect to the Philippines from New Mexico🇺🇸✝️🇵🇭
@CatholicCarpenter
@CatholicCarpenter 10 ай бұрын
I pray for the Philippines! Stay strong in the faith my brothers and sisters! 🇺🇸
@mmaamm2358
@mmaamm2358 3 ай бұрын
Is it true there is Islamic violence there right now?
@mahin1islam
@mahin1islam 10 ай бұрын
To correct a misunderstanding on Islam: Capital punishment in Islam cannot be carried out independent from the court system in a Sharia-governed country. The Sharia's criminal justice system includes capital punishment for seditious apostate citizens that don't keep their apostasy private. After a case is brought to court and they self admit to it, they're imprisoned for 3 days and told to go private, after which they are released. If they insist on publicizing their apostasy and dying a martyr to their beliefs, the capital punishment is carried out.
@IslamEducations
@IslamEducations 10 ай бұрын
What you say is completely false and wrong. I am in Mecca, Saudi Arabia and I work in my court! Changing religion is punishable by death(martyr)
@coolz123123
@coolz123123 10 ай бұрын
@@IslamEducationsbut that’s what he just said lol don’t you read English? If keep it private it means no one will no … = no death penalty.
@IslamEducations
@IslamEducations 10 ай бұрын
@@coolz123123 There is no Taqiyyah in Christianity! Is it not a problem to execute(death penalty) and you only have a problem with expressing and not expressing? smashaallah for islam lmaoo
@Aa-dc2xu
@Aa-dc2xu 10 ай бұрын
​@IslamEducations Taqiyyah isn't a Sunni belief tho, it's a Shia belief. I would have thought that living in Saudi would have made you learn that at least.
@jamalatmaca8071
@jamalatmaca8071 10 ай бұрын
@@IslamEducations Look of course there is lying for Christ by the followers of Paul. The following is actually only seen by evangelicals in the English speaking world and haven't seen it in Germany, where I come from, until now. They follow Paul... 19 For although I am free from everyone, I have made myself a slave to everyone, so that I may gain as many as possible. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, that I might win the Jews. To those under the law I have become as one under the law, although I myself am not under the law, that I might gain those under the law. 21 To those without the law I have become like one without the law, although I am not without the law before God, but am in the law before Christ, so that I may win those without the law. 22 I have become weak to the weak, that I may win the weak. I have become all things to all people, so that I may save some in every way. 23 But I do all things for the sake of the gospel, that I may be partakers of it. [1 Corinthians 9 - Luther Bible 2017] Once in 1 Corinthians 9 and also from 3 Romans 7: "7 But if the truth of God was made more glorious to his glory by my lie, why should I still be judged as a sinner?" Someone like Jay Smith and his wife, as he himself said, pretended to be Muslims in order to convert them or the countless fake ex-Muslims or fake rabbis. There are people who claim to be former Muslims or pretend to be Muslims in order to persuade others to convert, much as they pretend to be rabbis in order to deceive Jews. This practice has spawned its own industry that generates significant financial profits. A particularly striking example of someone who has lost his former glory is Ergun Caner, who experienced his decline after his true nature was revealed. A comparable example on another level concerns Nabeel Qureshi, who was never Muslim but claimed: "If I were still Muslim, I would join ISIS." Even James White, a theologian, could only laugh at this and exposed his lie as Qureshi was a former follower of Qadianism and not a Muslim. These are just a few examples of many similar cases. Similar to others who claimed to have been former practicing Muslims, they could not even recite basic things that every Muslim should know, especially as a so-called practicing Muslim, such as reciting al-Fatihah or correctly answer simple questions about their supposed former faith. Questions that don't make sense, such as: How many rak'ah in wudhu? Such trick questions... There are tons of examples of this and these are just a few cases. Or the industry of liberals at the core with a Christian cloak who earn their living with it Like Robert Spencer who has been making his living for decades as a so-called expert on Islam. It only took one podcast with Muslims to expose him for who he is and how poor his knowledge of Islam is. But some people love it because it confirms them and gives them sugar, so to speak. The same principle as Ergun Caner. Sources: Fake Jews and fake Rabbis: Shocker! Rabbi Tovia Singer Exposes Missionary Posing as Hassidic Rabbi in Jerusalem! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHzZmoSbadSbd7c Fake Rabbis EXPOSED IN ISRAEL - Christian Missionaries! Unmasked by Rabbi Tovia Singer kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHjSgX-GltKBmdk Fake Ex-Muslims CHRISTIAN TAQIYYA: ExMuslim Woman Caught Red Handed kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqW5qHt8ecemd9E When James White exposed Nabeel Qureshi after lying about his former faith - Must Watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKbEmJSFmLysodU How Ergun Caner Got Exposed as a Fake ex-Muslim kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqmwe5RnqrhjsNU Liberals with a Christian cloak: Religious Roundtable | PBD Podcast | Ep. 306 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKvNoHuqjrNja80 REVIEW: "PBD PODCAST" review with @TheMuslimMetaphysician & @MuslimSkeptic kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5-4Y3WDiNGIr6M
@danielchase1908
@danielchase1908 10 ай бұрын
There has to be another debate with you representing the Christian side. Could I be wrong to say that earlier debaters were ignorant about Christianity? Proudly Catholic!
@Ciilow24
@Ciilow24 10 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right. Coming from a Muslim person. Christianits need a rematch because the 2 guys were liberals not Christians ❤
@Ruthenian_Catholic
@Ruthenian_Catholic 10 ай бұрын
This new form of content is great!
@eberejosiah5078
@eberejosiah5078 9 ай бұрын
Stumbled on your channel, i love your take!
@gregoryphi
@gregoryphi 10 ай бұрын
I’m so glad I found your channel
@MagisterHamid
@MagisterHamid 10 ай бұрын
You are misinformed about Islam. Islam does not use capital punishment outside the Islamic state.
@Isaac8_13
@Isaac8_13 10 ай бұрын
They do though and still do. There are videos even today that show Christians being executed by Muslims. There was even a tour bus somewhere in the Middle East full of Christians and they were stopped and executed by Muslims for not accepting Islam.
@CarlJancorda
@CarlJancorda 10 ай бұрын
He doesn't misinformed
@imamjimjamlawrence
@imamjimjamlawrence 10 ай бұрын
Technically, you're right. Anywhere else it's called murder. So, they use murder. There's an interesting article that came out in 2011 called, "the unfolding legal dilemma created by honor and apostasy crimes". So while it isn't called capital punishment in the United States, it's still murder.
@Anon.5216
@Anon.5216 9 ай бұрын
Islam murders women who refuse to marry a chosen man. Honour killings! Murder is not from God! Islam is evil.
@tomgjokaj
@tomgjokaj 9 ай бұрын
Your lying and you know your lying I am Albanian the Ottoman Turks butchered killed raped, my people for over 5 centuries
@Mohammed-jf2sp
@Mohammed-jf2sp 10 ай бұрын
23:40 This is lie. You don’t know what you are talking about.
@janferiancik5
@janferiancik5 10 ай бұрын
Exactly they think that individual can just kill apostate in non muslim country and it's in line with sharia. Individuals can't kill apostate even in the Muslim country, only ruler can
@mohammeds3114
@mohammeds3114 10 ай бұрын
He states something so boldly without a single citation is so disingenuous. Here's the sucker punch after the niceties at the beginning. Another Islamophobe but more polite in his hatred.
@anonjohn7571
@anonjohn7571 5 ай бұрын
It's not a lie at all you're just defensive because Islam is being exposed.
@Mohammed-jf2sp
@Mohammed-jf2sp 5 ай бұрын
@@anonjohn7571 Okay.
@anonjohn7571
@anonjohn7571 5 ай бұрын
@@Mohammed-jf2sp Now you know the truth, Islam is a lie and Muhammad was a false prophet
@stephanierangel9330
@stephanierangel9330 10 ай бұрын
Always learning something new!👏🏻 ☕️
@janferiancik5
@janferiancik5 10 ай бұрын
All you said in the second part of the video is false. The penalty for apostasy in Islam is administrated exactly same as you described in Christianity. Only one that can execute punishment is Muslim ruler of the Muslim country. All main school of thought will say that. All other instances where individuals or groups executed apostates, was not according to sharia or Islamic rulings. It have to go through court, otherwise it's crime. And when you said that Islam gain power through violence rather then conviction. How do you think they gained enough numbers in army to begin with any conquest and stuff. Prophet Muhammad faced persecution through first 13 years of his prophethood in Mecca giving dawah. Islam spread his political influence through war, as any other empire but Islam is strictly against forced conversions, it's in the Quran. I don't saying it never happened, but it's not allowed according to Islamic scripture. Christianity on other hand... You can think for yourself, how Christianity get to South America, Africa, and so on.... I give you hint , it was not through peaceful conversions.
@arethmaran1279
@arethmaran1279 10 ай бұрын
What would you say to a Muslim who countered your point about capital punishment vs. conversion at the sword and murder with something about the Albigensian Crusade or the Teutonic wars in Lithuania and the Baltic to convert the pagans there, or Charlamagne's wars with the Saxons to force them to convert? Asking as a Catholic.
@tacom0nsta658
@tacom0nsta658 10 ай бұрын
except his claim that muslims forced conversions by the sword is 100% absolute lie. The Muslim did conquer lands, but never forced their people to convert EVER. Not once in their history.
@arethmaran1279
@arethmaran1279 10 ай бұрын
@tacom0nsta658 but that's not true. Many conquered populations were forced by means of not being able to pay the Jizya, and Jews were forcibly converted in Persia in 1291 and 1318 and in Baghdad in 1333 and 1344 to name a few.
@THUNDERxSCREAM
@THUNDERxSCREAM 10 ай бұрын
​​@@arethmaran1279well you Don't know but NON-MUSLIMS have to pay JEZIAH in muslim states AND MUSLIMS themselves have to pay something called ZAKAH which is more than that jeziah for non-muslims And they both are much more less than the taxes enforced on everyone nowadays You can't expect an individual to receive public services for free And there is a sentence in QURAN that forbids muslims to force anyone into Islam
@arethmaran1279
@arethmaran1279 10 ай бұрын
@THUNDERxSCREAM There are a few problems I have with what you said there. Zakat is alms-giving to the poor, one of the Pillars of Islam, for taking care of them and is set aside for that purpose, and a Muslim who cannot pay the zakat is a recipient thereof and does not need to pay, for all the Dhimmi living in Islamic society, the Jizya was not given to the poor, it was collected directly by the state and used more like how taxes in a modern context were used, or how wealthier Muslims's waqf payments were used. Also, poverty didn't keep Dhimmi from paying the Jizya like the zakat, they were still obligated, and many Caliphs, backed by their jurists, kept groups from conversion in order to use the taxes levied from non-Muslim subjects for the purposes of state. I don't know if they were better or worse than today, but not the same, and not for the same purpose.
@aftasaznisarimin9140
@aftasaznisarimin9140 10 ай бұрын
@@arethmaran1279 Did you know Zakat comes in two types? Zakat ul Mal and Zakat ul Fitr. The first difference between Zakat and Zakat ul Fitr is eligibility. All Muslims, who have enough food for a day, must pay Zakat ul Fitr (otherwise known as Fitrana) regardless of their age or financial status.
@Erick-jc3mw
@Erick-jc3mw 10 ай бұрын
Voice of reason: do you speak well enough spanish to make some content in that language?
@jackkrause9953
@jackkrause9953 10 ай бұрын
Proud new Catholic from Buffalo NY
@AdnanShaikh-zh5zd
@AdnanShaikh-zh5zd 10 ай бұрын
Dude forgot to mention that Islam was never forced upon the people of the land that was captured and before bringing up the Jeziha tax muslims have to pay Zakat which is more than the other tax forced upon non Muslims. Dude if you want to defend your values and points do it in a live debate. Defending on a pre-recorded video is like applying ointment on your wounds
@user-mb9dn4jt3n
@user-mb9dn4jt3n 10 ай бұрын
​@@Greeeen21 These are the laws of Muslim countries. The jizya is the only tax that must be paid. Tell me how much tax you pay in your secular or Christian country. Perhaps you will not know how many there are. 😂😂
@tasmarkou5681
@tasmarkou5681 8 ай бұрын
The real facts never considered by Muslim Muslims have alot of trouble debating and arguing certain facts and sources, is because Islam was started by Satan , Gibril that appeared to Mahamed , was the devil in disguise . Did you know there is a Verae in the bible ,2 corinthians 11-14 It says, For Satan himself can transforms into an angel of light. If Mahamed new the gospels and this verse , he would have been more careful that Gibril doesn't say something that contradicts other scriptures, and if he heard something odd he may have thought, if Allahs words cannot change Why is this angel saying jesus didn't die, and realise this couldnt be the real Gibril it must be Satan in disguise as the bible warns us ! This is why it allows rape of female captives, sex with children, he made his adopted son divorce his wife so he can marry her , seriously would God honestly say this is,ok? If you use your logic there is something wrong. . But poor Muslims get confused because the quran has taken characters of the torah and gospels and put them in the quran to give it historical credibility, and make it look continuous But everything the quran says ,is not consistent with other prophets, and muslins can't figure out that maybe mahamed was fooled, thats why they say like there are errors in the torah and gospels , but there isn't , but how else can they justify the contradictions otherwise? And Satan did exactly the samething with prophet Joseph smith in the Mormon Church An angel called Moroni , appeared to him and told him all religions are wrong ,I'm here to tell you ths truth. And he told him ,there's are millions of Gods and you can become a God , if Joseph Smith knew the scriptures ,he would know there is a verse that says in Isaiah 43:10 King James Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me... So he could have used his,logic and thought God would not contradict himself, why is this Angel Moroni saying there many Gods and you can become one, and isaha is saying , no gods before or after me..? And if he knew 2 -corinthians 11-14, that Satan can transform himself into and angel of light, he would have realised he is being deceived.. Now you can understand and follow me ,when I talk about Joseph Smith being fooled and being a false prophet , but because you were raised in Islam and are emotionally involved, you can't see it. If you are being honest with yourself, Satan pulled the same trick on Mahamed . If you ask God to open your eyes ,listen to sam shamoun, and christian prince you'll soon realise this is false religion, like Mormon Church is also . I saw yesterday, in Iran 50 thousand out of 75 thousand mosques are closed, everyone there is leaving Islam and on the internet every five seconds some leaves Islam GOD BLESS, jesus is Lord , pray stay calm and ask God to open your heart if what I'm saying is true ,to see it ..
@1844D
@1844D 9 ай бұрын
Thank you.😊
@marcinciszewski8033
@marcinciszewski8033 10 ай бұрын
11:02 But pope Francis tells that: "the death penalty is inadmissible because it is an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person" (CCC 2267). When he says about reason, why the death penalty is no longer permissible, he tells not only that we have other means of exercising justice, but also that it is "an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person". Hence, someone can make a conclusion that pope Francis accuses God of attacking people's inviolability and dignity.
@ApologiaLazar
@ApologiaLazar 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely Correct. Antipope Francis's comment on the death penalty is MANIFEST HERESY.
@christianmalik9996
@christianmalik9996 10 ай бұрын
Brother Deuteronomy 13 is not simply "Leaving the faith" its enticing others to go and worship other gods and making sacrifices to them. Which included burning children in the fire. Hence why God told Moses to tell the judges to execute those who entice people to go and make these sacrifices for other gods when they apostysie. In islam just simply leaving the faith and not believing in anything will get you killed. Big difference.
@ytali2323
@ytali2323 10 ай бұрын
It's not as simple we have a whole court system which includes witnesses, jurisdiction and etc. This requires knowledge in fiqh, but generally we both can agree that capital punishment being applied for apostasy is not immoral.
@christianmalik9996
@christianmalik9996 10 ай бұрын
@@ytali2323 killing someone because they simply disbelieve is immoral. Apostasy In the Bible is different from apostasy in Islam. Different meanings.
@ytali2323
@ytali2323 10 ай бұрын
@@christianmalik9996 How exactly are they different, even your fellow christian just admitted Capital punishment from apostasy is not immoral. Also the definition of apostasy is the Abandonment or renunciation of a religious belief.
@christianmalik9996
@christianmalik9996 10 ай бұрын
@@ytali2323 because the verses are not ONLY talking about simply leaving the religion. If you read Deuteronomy 13 they #1 left the faith. #2. Persuaded others to worship other gods. #3 sacrifice their children to other gods. Just like in exodus 22. They are all wrong. Hence why I posted on here. Post the verse in the Bible we will read it together. Go on. I'm here copy and paste where it says kill them for simply leaving their faith. Because in Islam I can post the Muhammad saying... "If anyone leaves his religion.. kill him" it's in Sahib hadiths. But go ahead bro post the verse. In this whole video not even one single verse was shown.
@ytali2323
@ytali2323 10 ай бұрын
@@christianmalik9996 Ok just read the passage and I'm not here to debate just have a civil discussion. Anyways no where in the passage does it mention that it was to sacrifice their children to Gods and this punishment is specifically for thy mother, thy friend, daughter, wife, son. Also one of the main reasons apostasy is punishable by death is because it causes a rebellion or war to form and makes apostasy widespread leading to idoltary and other practises, Hence I agree with the bible in this matter. This is also the same with Islam in which capital punishment is applied on apostasy as a means to remove any rebellion or war from forming. 'But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.' Also mentions that the apostate should be put to death, so clearly I don't see a major difference.
@madmachio
@madmachio 10 ай бұрын
I was screaming in the live chat during the pbd podcast "get some Catholics on the flipping debate!!!!!" So infuriating lol
@georgeibrahim7848
@georgeibrahim7848 10 ай бұрын
I hear you bro.... I was screaming and shaking my head. PBD actually picked the wrong Christians, and Muslims to have on the show.
@madmachio
@madmachio 10 ай бұрын
@@georgeibrahim7848 I was alright with the Muslim guys... but Protestants lack the full truth so they're always going to lose ..
@johnsix.51-69
@johnsix.51-69 10 ай бұрын
Muslims have a field day with protestants on TikTok. When they ask why there are so many "types" of Christianity the protestants start doing gymnastics. I laugh every single time. Good for the Muslims for exposing how protestantism doesn't work.
@madmachio
@madmachio 10 ай бұрын
@@johnsix.51-69 exactly... that's why we need Reason² on there
@damegto
@damegto 10 ай бұрын
I thought Robert Spencer was a Melkite Eastern Catholic?
@aubliz1292
@aubliz1292 10 ай бұрын
Proud Catholic 📿
@klivityloja3067
@klivityloja3067 10 ай бұрын
Why is THE PAPAL AUDIENCE CHAMBER A SNAKE? ITS NOT A TRICK PICTURE. THE WHOLE BUILDING IS DESIGNED TO LOOK LIKE A SNAKE
@tasmarkou5681
@tasmarkou5681 8 ай бұрын
Consider Listenimg to jay Dyer, was born Baptist , then was catholic 10 years now orthodox, smartest guy I've ever come across
@Mr24Acdcfreak
@Mr24Acdcfreak 10 ай бұрын
We need Reason² to do a team debate.
@Triniboyforchrist
@Triniboyforchrist 3 ай бұрын
Him and Sam Shamouian
@jaden3560
@jaden3560 9 ай бұрын
This guy speaks with Clarity....that's was a joy to watch
@slippingsnake
@slippingsnake 9 ай бұрын
He Is completly whitewashing christianity and medival history. These Morals cover a feudal system, slavery and burning of heretics. And in Europe the ctholic church became infamous not because Priests abused childrens but because the Intitutions sweeped this under the Rug.
@raniayoussef5599
@raniayoussef5599 9 ай бұрын
May Allah guide us all to his most righteous path 🙏
@imranabubakar5360
@imranabubakar5360 9 ай бұрын
Ameen
@blessing21
@blessing21 8 ай бұрын
Show me where in koran Allah says to guide infidels Jews and Christians? Muslims are deceived by Satan. Without lies Satan Islam dies.
@chutindrachodi4764
@chutindrachodi4764 8 ай бұрын
Peace be upon you all
@mylesmillar4151
@mylesmillar4151 10 ай бұрын
No one should die for changing religions
@MilesLuwa
@MilesLuwa 10 ай бұрын
Why
@mylesmillar4151
@mylesmillar4151 10 ай бұрын
@@MilesLuwa it's barbaric..
@yoyogi52
@yoyogi52 10 ай бұрын
There is no compulsion in religion” Quran 2: 256 The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve." Quran 18: 29 In islam apostate is killed only if he bad mouths and becomes anti islam through words or actions. But if he just switches religion, he's not killed
@mylesmillar4151
@mylesmillar4151 10 ай бұрын
@@yoyogi52 what about the bible
@brandonwiles-n8t
@brandonwiles-n8t 10 ай бұрын
@@mylesmillar4151 yea, more barbaric than coercing small children to get chemically castrated.
@jmb47kkamikaze80
@jmb47kkamikaze80 10 ай бұрын
How many times am I going to hear the same thing "but in the Old Testament" ....................................there is a reason why it's called the Old Testament and why we have a new one we fall under the New Testament not the Old one. Why do you think Jesus said only people without sin can stone the women who sinned? And the people they pick to present the bible ........yeah, I don't think they are qualified. I barely read the bible and can still remember important things to prove that what these Muslims are talking about is absolute trash.
@lolina7888
@lolina7888 10 ай бұрын
Happy Sunday and thx a lot. I've learned a lot from each of your videos 💛🤍💛🤍💛
@the1allahprays2
@the1allahprays2 10 ай бұрын
I doubt you will ever have a chance to debate them on theology. Muslims only debate a small handful of topics, and even then they eo everything to stack the deck in their favor. They even did it with this one. If you get lucky enough to debate any subject worth debating be preparded for underhanded tactics because they are long documented.
@G06LlN
@G06LlN 6 ай бұрын
Jesus clearly loves you Probably the only person who does 😂😂
@ernestleyva8406
@ernestleyva8406 10 ай бұрын
If that is the case, regarding dead penalty, why the Sanhedrin had to go thru Pontius Pilate to crucify Jesus?
@2pac1996-
@2pac1996- 10 ай бұрын
In Matthew 16:18 it says, “You are Peter; and on this rock my congregation will build.” From this the Catholic Church derives the office of the Pope and also the thesis that Jesus wanted to build the church on Peter. Verse 19 says, “Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in the heavens,” etc. How should we understand this verse? Bible passage(s): Matthew 16:18,19 Peter is “Petros” in Greek, while rock is “Petra”. Petros means: a stone, a piece of a rock. Petra is the rock itself. So this passage does not give the slightest basis for the teaching that the church was built on Peter and that Peter is the head of the church. What verse 19 says has nothing to do with the church, but with the kingdom of heaven. You don't build with keys, you unlock things with them. The verse means that Peter could open the kingdom of heaven and admit people, as we see in Acts chapters 2, 8 and 10. God also wanted to acknowledge what would bind Peter here, i.e. when he refused to admit anyone, for example. This power to bind and to loose in connection with the assembly is given in Matthew 18 to the two or three gathered together to the name of the Lord; and in connection with forgiveness of sins for this earth, it is given in John 20:23 to every disciple who makes use of it, for example, when baptizing another. He then admits him to the kingdom of heaven, or to the assembly, seen as the house of God, and by this fact declares that he recognizes him as one whose sins are forgiven.
@sababaahla5703
@sababaahla5703 10 ай бұрын
🇸🇦full support from Saudi
@monderzorgani8897
@monderzorgani8897 10 ай бұрын
What?
@chutindrachodi4764
@chutindrachodi4764 8 ай бұрын
​@@monderzorgani8897saudi guy supports VOR
@MonisAhmed
@MonisAhmed 10 ай бұрын
Does it stand to reason to read the Quran if one wants to know Islam?
@tasmarkou5681
@tasmarkou5681 8 ай бұрын
Don't bother trust me . The real facts never considered by Muslim Muslims have alot of trouble debating and arguing certain facts and sources, is because Islam was started by Satan , Gibril that appeared to Mahamed , was the devil in disguise . Did you know there is a Verae in the bible ,2 corinthians 11-14 It says, For Satan himself can transforms into an angel of light. If Mahamed new the gospels and this verse , he would have been more careful that Gibril doesn't say something that contradicts other scriptures, and if he heard something odd he may have thought, if Allahs words cannot change Why is this angel saying jesus didn't die, and realise this couldnt be the real Gibril it must be Satan in disguise as the bible warns us ! This is why it allows rape of female captives, sex with children, he made his adopted son divorce his wife so he can marry her , seriously would God honestly say this is,ok? If you use your logic there is something wrong. . But poor Muslims get confused because the quran has taken characters of the torah and gospels and put them in the quran to give it historical credibility, and make it look continuous But everything the quran says ,is not consistent with other prophets, and muslins can't figure out that maybe mahamed was fooled, thats why they say like there are errors in the torah and gospels , but there isn't , but how else can they justify the contradictions otherwise? And Satan did exactly the samething with prophet Joseph smith in the Mormon Church An angel called Moroni , appeared to him and told him all religions are wrong ,I'm here to tell you ths truth. And he told him ,there's are millions of Gods and you can become a God , if Joseph Smith knew the scriptures ,he would know there is a verse that says in Isaiah 43:10 King James Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me... So he could have used his,logic and thought God would not contradict himself, why is this Angel Moroni saying there many Gods and you can become one, and isaha is saying , no gods before or after me..? And if he knew 2 -corinthians 11-14, that Satan can transform himself into and angel of light, he would have realised he is being deceived.. Now you can understand and follow me ,when I talk about Joseph Smith being fooled and being a false prophet , but because you were raised in Islam and are emotionally involved, you can't see it. If you are being honest with yourself, Satan pulled the same trick on Mahamed . If you ask God to open your eyes ,listen to sam shamoun, and christian prince you'll soon realise this is false religion, like Mormon Church is also . I saw yesterday, in Iran 50 thousand out of 75 thousand mosques are closed, everyone there is leaving Islam and on the internet every five seconds some leaves Islam GOD BLESS, jesus is Lord , pray stay calm and ask God to open your heart if what I'm saying is true ,to see it ..
@Picasso149
@Picasso149 10 ай бұрын
Hi, it’s the first time I see your channel. You seem like a sincere and bright person. I study different religions searching for the truth. What would you say to Muslim scholars who say that the Quran is the final, latest and most updated Edition of God’s Messages, the God of Jesus the Almighty Father (Allah, Elaha, Elohim). It was revealed to affirm the religion of Jesus and all the prophets before him and the final prophet after him. The religion of submission to the will of the one true God (the Arabic translation is Islam). Also that today’s Christianity is not the religion of Jesus, but the religion of the Roman Empire who hired Paul to insert their three head pagan god into Jesus message after they got rid of Jesus.
@anonjohn7571
@anonjohn7571 5 ай бұрын
As a former Muslim, I would say Muhammad was a false prophet and the teachings of the Quran are false.
@isaacakinz2930
@isaacakinz2930 7 ай бұрын
With all due respect as a follower of Christ, i agree that you could be right but does it apply in todays world? you know the wages of sin is death but, isn't that why Jesus fulfilled a role? he died for our sins right?
@9pdag
@9pdag 10 ай бұрын
Please reach out to PBD to be on the 2nd round of this debate
@jamalatmaca8071
@jamalatmaca8071 10 ай бұрын
From around 23:52 you say that punishments can also be applied to Muslims outside of the authority, in contrast to Jews/Christians. Where did you get that? If I were to drink alcohol as a Muslim, does that mean it's okay in Islam? Of course not. In every legal book (Fiqh) you will find the opposite. You learn that as a child here in Berlin (Germany). There is a consensus about this. On islamqa question 12461: It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 7/21: The hadd punishments can only be carried out by a Muslim ruler or one who takes the place of the ruler. It is not permissible for individual Muslims to carry out the hadd punishments because of the chaos and fitnah (tribulation) to which that will lead.” It also says (21/5-6): No one can carry out the hadd punishments except the Muslim ruler or his deputy, in order to maintain order and prevent anyone from transgressing against others, and to protect against injustice. And the sinner has to pray for forgiveness and repent to Allaah and do a lot of good deeds. If he is sincere in his repentance towards Allaah, Allaah will accept his repentance and forgive Him by His grace and kindness. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And those who invoke not any other ilaah (god) along with Allaah, nor kill such person as Allaah has forbidden, except for just cause, nor commit illegal sexual intercourse and whoever does this shall receive the punishment. 69. The torment will be doubled to him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein in disgrace; 70. Except those who repent and believe (in Islamic Monotheism), and do righteous deeds; for those, Allaah will change their sins into good deeds, and Allaah is Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful” [al-Furqaan 25:67-70] “And verily, I am indeed forgiving to him who repents, believes (in My Oneness, and associates none in worship with Me) and does righteous good deeds, and then remains constant in doing them (till his death)” [Ta-Ha 20:82] And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Islam erases whatever came before it, and repentance erases whatever came before it.”. Also the past scholars said so... Al-Qurtubi said: There is no dispute among the scholars that qisaas (retaliatory punishments) such as execution cannot be carried out except by those in authority who are obliged to carry out the qisaas and carry out hadd punishments etc, because Allaah has addressed the command regarding qisaas to all the Muslims, and it is not possible for all the Muslims to get together to carry out the qisaas, which is why they appointed a leader who may represent them in carrying out the qisaas and hadd punishments. Tafseer al-Qurtubi, 2/245, 246. Ibn Rushd al-Qurtubi said: With regard to the one who should carry out this punishment - i.e., the hadd punishment for drinking alcohol - they agreed that the ruler should carry it out, and that applies to all the hadd punishments. Bidaayat al-Mujtahid, 2/233.
@HamzaNaseemHassan
@HamzaNaseemHassan 4 ай бұрын
23:52 not 23:52:00
@jamalatmaca8071
@jamalatmaca8071 4 ай бұрын
@@HamzaNaseemHassan Thanks, changed.
@ulissessousa8363
@ulissessousa8363 9 ай бұрын
Algum católico Brasileiro acompanhando essa lenda aí 😃? Uma pena que esse debate começou péssimo já com uma resposta bem errada. Virou apenas "apologética islã". Que Deus ilumine o Voice of Reason. Difícil saber o que será da Europa nos próximos anos, excelentes pontos da separação estado-igreja e como o Cristianismo se expandiu com a mensagem e o Islã com a violência. Loved the video! Non prævalebunt! Christo Nihil Praeponere! Salve, Regina! Salve Roma!!!
@gades_gabriel
@gades_gabriel 8 ай бұрын
Eu
@gherrocrucible
@gherrocrucible 10 ай бұрын
This is the voice of reason? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@kimberHD45
@kimberHD45 9 ай бұрын
If the death penalty is moral, then, when necessary, it must always be an option. The same caveats always existed for the death penalty, it was never permitted to execute an innocent person. Quit the double speak, you sound ridiculous defending Francis when he speaks outside his office contradicting divine revelation and over-stepping his authority.
@LordCristianWaters
@LordCristianWaters 10 ай бұрын
Al-Qur'an injel is not the 4 Gospels. The Injel of the Al-Qur'an is based on what Qur'an says about the Gospel(s). Injel is one "Gospel". This is why Muslims consider the Gospels corrupted because it is all based on what the Qur'an says. Capital punishment was carried over when the Christians took over the Roman empire. The Catholic Emperor was then established and capital punishments was applied. Inquisitions and crusades are examples through St. Augustine's treatise describing 'Just War' doctrine.
@tasmarkou5681
@tasmarkou5681 8 ай бұрын
The real facts never considered by Muslim Muslims have alot of trouble debating and arguing certain facts and sources, is because Islam was started by Satan , Gibril that appeared to Mahamed , was the devil in disguise . Did you know there is a Verae in the bible ,2 corinthians 11-14 It says, For Satan himself can transforms into an angel of light. If Mahamed new the gospels and this verse , he would have been more careful that Gibril doesn't say something that contradicts other scriptures, and if he heard something odd he may have thought, if Allahs words cannot change Why is this angel saying jesus didn't die, and realise this couldnt be the real Gibril it must be Satan in disguise as the bible warns us ! This is why it allows rape of female captives, sex with children, he made his adopted son divorce his wife so he can marry her , seriously would God honestly say this is,ok? If you use your logic there is something wrong. . But poor Muslims get confused because the quran has taken characters of the torah and gospels and put them in the quran to give it historical credibility, and make it look continuous But everything the quran says ,is not consistent with other prophets, and muslins can't figure out that maybe mahamed was fooled, thats why they say like there are errors in the torah and gospels , but there isn't , but how else can they justify the contradictions otherwise? And Satan did exactly the samething with prophet Joseph smith in the Mormon Church An angel called Moroni , appeared to him and told him all religions are wrong ,I'm here to tell you ths truth. And he told him ,there's are millions of Gods and you can become a God , if Joseph Smith knew the scriptures ,he would know there is a verse that says in Isaiah 43:10 King James Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me... So he could have used his,logic and thought God would not contradict himself, why is this Angel Moroni saying there many Gods and you can become one, and isaha is saying , no gods before or after me..? And if he knew 2 -corinthians 11-14, that Satan can transform himself into and angel of light, he would have realised he is being deceived.. Now you can understand and follow me ,when I talk about Joseph Smith being fooled and being a false prophet , but because you were raised in Islam and are emotionally involved, you can't see it. If you are being honest with yourself, Satan pulled the same trick on Mahamed . If you ask God to open your eyes ,listen to sam shamoun, and christian prince you'll soon realise this is false religion, like Mormon Church is also . I saw yesterday, in Iran 50 thousand out of 75 thousand mosques are closed, everyone there is leaving Islam and on the internet every five seconds some leaves Islam GOD BLESS, jesus is Lord , pray stay calm and ask God to open your heart if what I'm saying is true ,to see it ..
@kidsuperdynamite
@kidsuperdynamite 10 ай бұрын
Love this content, would love to see more! And you need a podcast!!
@tareqdb9
@tareqdb9 10 ай бұрын
two mistakes you made but it sounds like you had to throw something out there or look totally defeated by the excellent muslim performance. islamic law is absolutely not to be applied out of the state, it is insane that you even tried to make that point. if some one decided to exact punishment against an apostate outside the state then they committed murder and they are punishable by death in islamic law. two: islamic conquest did not force convert people to islam, many many people kept their faith and lived under islamic rule peacefully, for example the jews enjoyed much more favorable living conditions under islam, unlike christianity which massacred jews in Jerusalem and spain.
@ramio1983
@ramio1983 10 ай бұрын
It's good to call things out Bro, as a Muslim sometimes i squirm at some Muslims in debate, it happens- "our side" doesn't always have the answers, let alone the right ones. In this case, i also agree with as little as bias as possible that the Muslims had more compelling arguments and really focused on hypocrisy and double standards of many Christian followers, including the debaters themselves.
@DjangoDrango
@DjangoDrango 10 ай бұрын
proof? 24:30
@DakidRickyC
@DakidRickyC 8 ай бұрын
My biggest knock against religion is .... "how do we actually know?" we take stuff as "givens" when we are basing everything on what the disciples understood based on their perspective. And the books have gotten "lost in translation" as they were translated into our language. So I still believe that god is in you and god dies with you. be the best version of yourself and let others live.
@tasmarkou5681
@tasmarkou5681 8 ай бұрын
Respectfully, i would like to clarify evidence isnt PROOF, theres direct or indirect evidence only, ie its information that leads to a probable cause, thats why in a court room your are guilty or not guilty based on beyond reasonable doubt ... And courts except circumstantial evidence which is evidence of eye witnesses to psychologists to draw conclusions. Whether God exists or spirits or the transcendental or is Jesus divine isn't an intellectual argument of scripture, you can argue back and forth evolution vs creation etc, but peoples personal experiences especially when their is no motive is more of a challenge . It's the manifestation of his claims Which show an interesting perspective, let me give you a perspective and I know you don't believe in the bible, but hear me out. Mathew 11.28 -30 Jesus says- Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. .. and Mathew 18.20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.” So both these claims are divine claims , as he is saying in the first verse, come to me I'll give you rest, so for jesus to be able to do this he has to omniscient and omnipresent, same goes with the second verse , so do we have any evidence of this manifesting? Well look up the following testimonials on you tube . Where they have a personal encounter with jesus ,directly or indirectly, that did not previously believe in him ,so what's,the motive here ? You can argue they all delusional sure, but there are hundreds, that's evidence not PROOF , at least I've shown people are having these experiences Then look up yourself how many near death experiences people have had, Garry habermas has recorded heaps of testimonies, now again it isn't PROOF but the more independent information you hear, you can decide for yourself if it's plausible, that theres something more than just what we can perceive imperically. Now to be fair to you,you can can research and find testimonies of people who have died and saw nothing, so you would have to listen to both sides and draw your own conclusions. Further more there's other paranormal phenomenon, that people have attested to , now again, it isn't PROOF, but it's information that's can lead to a most probable or less probable conclusion. There's heaps of testimonies that people have made to do with demonic or evil spirits, so I'll,draw your attention to people like John Ramirez who goes into great detail, how how was a Satanist, and would command different spirits to do his work for him , from putting on spells to people selling their souls etc, heaps,of x witches also if you do your research You can again argue, it's all rubbish but listen to Bob Dylan ,in an interview ( look up b Dylan sold his soul )where he says he made a bargain with the chief commander in the world we can't see,( is he being poetic? )What a strange thing to say.....? (I've attached it below) And there's tons of testimonies of musicians selling their souls, and now consider jesus would often exorcise demons in the gospels, so what you'll find the more information you have the plausibly becomes greeter and greater, now you as atheist need to bring to the table information to show all this is just a mere coincidence and state your case equally, so don't assume that people base their beliefs on zero information... And if you really want to know you could simply ask God to give you a clear sign of his existence, that's not difficult .. Some topics ive researched Atheist to christian. X witches to jesus Jews for jesus Homosexality to jesus Muslim to Christianity New age to Christianity Satanism to Christianity I can leave a few of my favourites, if you wish to see them below or find you own... kzbin.info/www/bejne/qp3JpYdtZ8ihh8k kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIS9qKaOlJJ-mNU kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGbWeqKkq7CEm5I a kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4CuaIOco8lrhdk kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZzVqYOve9eDmtE kzbin.info/www/bejne/aouxpoJon66His0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2rQg41ni89rkLc kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpSVdmZpjpmDrcU kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zpi3dJykrtOdd7M kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ_SYpZpo5WrrsU kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5Daco1mZ6-Iqq8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX7YZnlonsimipo kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJDYqq2Cm82jkJI kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4CuaIOco8lrhdk kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJOVmJqgbtJ-g5I
@JayTarsia25
@JayTarsia25 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, no. There should be no civil penalty for changing your religion. Why is this even a debate?
@sofiadonis5973
@sofiadonis5973 8 ай бұрын
Israelite religion? Can someone explain please????
@bennydosanjh
@bennydosanjh 10 ай бұрын
You Preach God has a mother.. so who's the father of your Mortal God ???? Who's that Father of the father ?? Who's the Grandpa ?
@YousufS16
@YousufS16 10 ай бұрын
Narrated Al-Mughira bin Shu'ba: "The sun eclipsed in the life-time of Allah's Apostle on the day when (his son) Ibrahim died. So the people said that the sun had eclipsed because of the death of Ibrahim. Allah's Apostle said, "The sun and the moon do not eclipse because of the death or life (i.e. birth) of some-one. If Muhammad was a false prophet why wouldnt he have agreed with them?
@vaderkurt7848
@vaderkurt7848 10 ай бұрын
If he wasn't a false prophet, why did his aorta get cut? Why wasn't he prophesied till Muhammed pops up?
@mohamadromzee7394
@mohamadromzee7394 10 ай бұрын
​@@vaderkurt7848 Show evidence that his aorta was physically cut. Goto The Muslim Lantern, EFDAWAH and Blogging Theology for the truth.
@juggernaut6141
@juggernaut6141 10 ай бұрын
​@@vaderkurt7848it didnt. That's a misconception. He got poisoned at khaybar by a jew. Everyone who ate from that food died immediately except the prophet muhammed. He died 4 years later once the quran was completely revealed.
@tacom0nsta658
@tacom0nsta658 10 ай бұрын
@@vaderkurt7848 it didn't. This is a bad claim on several levels: 1. his level did NOT get cut. The Quranic verse says الوتين, which is the Atenoid . The Hadith where he mentioned that he tasted the poison the Jewish women used to poison him said he FELT like like الابهر which is the aorta got cut. He said he tasted it for over 3 years. The poison did not work because he lived 4 years after it. 2. The verse about if he was lying then his aorta would be cut came in Mecca, about 20 years before his death. 3. You believe the Quran now? great... aren't you contradicting yourself 4. you forgot verse 5:3 which is one of the last verses that were revealed to the prophet pbuh "Today the disbelievers have given up all hope of ˹undermining˺ your faith. So do not fear them; fear Me! Today I have perfected your faith for you, completed My favour upon you, and chosen Islam as your way. " The message was delivered by the prophet peace be upon him. It's dangerous to listen to Islam haters, you just saw in this debate they're liars and have nothing to offer. you saw it on the debate. it's also dangerous to cherry-pick scripture. Read for yourself. Bring your doubts to your local masjid and ask questions.
@arefinkamal7654
@arefinkamal7654 10 ай бұрын
​@@vaderkurt7848 when did his aorta get cut?
@moali7158
@moali7158 9 ай бұрын
You didn’t mention that the Crusaders forced Muslims, Jews and minority Christian groups (Maronites) to become Christians of their sect or they would die.
@catholicusmaan
@catholicusmaan 9 ай бұрын
Ok and
@user-tp4hr8xw1s
@user-tp4hr8xw1s 5 ай бұрын
What about the Spanish Inquisition? The Catholic Church executed Jews for their religion. What do you say about that?
@ZakWayne
@ZakWayne 10 ай бұрын
One of the reasons the West thrives is because of the separation of religion and government. You use medieval and Roman times as a “good” example… how many crusades were launched? How many ridiculous laws were enforced? The State should not promote a religion nor should it adopt a religion.
@siamsifat9631
@siamsifat9631 10 ай бұрын
1.Actually islamic laws only applied on muslim not on non muslim living in muslim land if they give jijia. 2.Muhammad (s) never fought an unjust war all of them was defensive war or where non muslim were the aggressor. Most impotantly we should stop critisizing each other and unite against sss S=shaytan S=sacularism S=socialism
@suesue9068
@suesue9068 10 ай бұрын
You are wrong about Islam and the capital punishment being applied outside of the Muslim country. The Muslim in the debate clearly stated that this would apply only in a Islamic state and only going to through a court system and applied to individuals who are equated to treason. No where in the Quran or sunnah does it state that you applied this rule outside the islamic state. If that was the case during our prophets time Christian’s and Jews lived with Muslims side by side and never had any issues. Also, the main reasons for the wars during our prophets PBUH time was only on self defence. So I recommend you study Islam before you utter lies about Islam.
@thrax214
@thrax214 4 ай бұрын
Islam literally has a whole tax for those who don't convert and if u don't want to pay it or convert to Islam then there will be Repacaution the only reason most Muslims don't try this outside the middle east because they have no power to enforce
@reyhardzuarez5536
@reyhardzuarez5536 8 ай бұрын
I would like to see this Muslim metha physician debate 8 hours with 5 session with Christian Prince and the topic alone is Islam, Allah, Muhammad, Mota, 72 virgin in paradise, weak hadith, strong hadiith, sharia law, taquiya.
@Blog-os3kh
@Blog-os3kh 8 ай бұрын
do muslim all believed Jesus as the prophesied Mesiah .
@nabhanelrahman
@nabhanelrahman 10 ай бұрын
Not enough theology was discussed. The main difference between Islam and Christianity is monotheism versus the trinity. I wished they talked about the root issue.
@GuitarBloodlines
@GuitarBloodlines 10 ай бұрын
the trinity is monotheistic
@CarlJancorda
@CarlJancorda 9 ай бұрын
Christianity is monotheism
@blessing21
@blessing21 8 ай бұрын
That's not the only main issue. Koran Allah is more like Satan. Even Mohammad spread Islam by the sword.
@tasmarkou5681
@tasmarkou5681 8 ай бұрын
The real facts never considered by Muslim Muslims have alot of trouble debating and arguing certain facts and sources, is because Islam was started by Satan , Gibril that appeared to Mahamed , was the devil in disguise . Did you know there is a Verae in the bible ,2 corinthians 11-14 It says, For Satan himself can transforms into an angel of light. If Mahamed new the gospels and this verse , he would have been more careful that Gibril doesn't say something that contradicts other scriptures, and if he heard something odd he may have thought, if Allahs words cannot change Why is this angel saying jesus didn't die, and realise this couldnt be the real Gibril it must be Satan in disguise as the bible warns us ! This is why it allows rape of female captives, sex with children, he made his adopted son divorce his wife so he can marry her , seriously would God honestly say this is,ok? If you use your logic there is something wrong. . But poor Muslims get confused because the quran has taken characters of the torah and gospels and put them in the quran to give it historical credibility, and make it look continuous But everything the quran says ,is not consistent with other prophets, and muslins can't figure out that maybe mahamed was fooled, thats why they say like there are errors in the torah and gospels , but there isn't , but how else can they justify the contradictions otherwise? And Satan did exactly the samething with prophet Joseph smith in the Mormon Church An angel called Moroni , appeared to him and told him all religions are wrong ,I'm here to tell you ths truth. And he told him ,there's are millions of Gods and you can become a God , if Joseph Smith knew the scriptures ,he would know there is a verse that says in Isaiah 43:10 King James Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me... So he could have used his,logic and thought God would not contradict himself, why is this Angel Moroni saying there many Gods and you can become one, and isaha is saying , no gods before or after me..? And if he knew 2 -corinthians 11-14, that Satan can transform himself into and angel of light, he would have realised he is being deceived.. Now you can understand and follow me ,when I talk about Joseph Smith being fooled and being a false prophet , but because you were raised in Islam and are emotionally involved, you can't see it. If you are being honest with yourself, Satan pulled the same trick on Mahamed . If you ask God to open your eyes ,listen to sam shamoun, and christian prince you'll soon realise this is false religion, like Mormon Church is also . I saw yesterday, in Iran 50 thousand out of 75 thousand mosques are closed, everyone there is leaving Islam and on the internet every five seconds some leaves Islam GOD BLESS, jesus is Lord , pray stay calm and ask God to open your heart if what I'm saying is true ,to see it ..
@loganshafer951
@loganshafer951 10 ай бұрын
Another great video, sadly I didn't have my coffee this morning so I was missing out
@YousufS16
@YousufS16 10 ай бұрын
Have you considered reading rhe quran?
@THUNDERxSCREAM
@THUNDERxSCREAM 10 ай бұрын
In islam we believe that moses was sent to Israel and his commandments and message was to govern then that's why his punishment was only applied to them , but prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was sent as the final messenger to all of humanity, so the commans of god to him is dictated on everyone, not just the muslim community, and according to your words not mine , it's not immoral if it's the commands of god But i think you will not respond to any of the replies in the comments but atleast think about it, you sound like a logical guy
@tasmarkou5681
@tasmarkou5681 8 ай бұрын
The real facts never considered by Muslim Muslims have alot of trouble debating and arguing certain facts and sources, is because Islam was started by Satan , Gibril that appeared to Mahamed , was the devil in disguise . Did you know there is a Verae in the bible ,2 corinthians 11-14 It says, For Satan himself can transforms into an angel of light. If Mahamed new the gospels and this verse , he would have been more careful that Gibril doesn't say something that contradicts other scriptures, and if he heard something odd he may have thought, if Allahs words cannot change Why is this angel saying jesus didn't die, and realise this couldnt be the real Gibril it must be Satan in disguise as the bible warns us ! This is why it allows rape of female captives, sex with children, he made his adopted son divorce his wife so he can marry her , seriously would God honestly say this is,ok? If you use your logic there is something wrong. . But poor Muslims get confused because the quran has taken characters of the torah and gospels and put them in the quran to give it historical credibility, and make it look continuous But everything the quran says ,is not consistent with other prophets, and muslins can't figure out that maybe mahamed was fooled, thats why they say like there are errors in the torah and gospels , but there isn't , but how else can they justify the contradictions otherwise? And Satan did exactly the samething with prophet Joseph smith in the Mormon Church An angel called Moroni , appeared to him and told him all religions are wrong ,I'm here to tell you ths truth. And he told him ,there's are millions of Gods and you can become a God , if Joseph Smith knew the scriptures ,he would know there is a verse that says in Isaiah 43:10 King James Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me... So he could have used his,logic and thought God would not contradict himself, why is this Angel Moroni saying there many Gods and you can become one, and isaha is saying , no gods before or after me..? And if he knew 2 -corinthians 11-14, that Satan can transform himself into and angel of light, he would have realised he is being deceived.. Now you can understand and follow me ,when I talk about Joseph Smith being fooled and being a false prophet , but because you were raised in Islam and are emotionally involved, you can't see it. If you are being honest with yourself, Satan pulled the same trick on Mahamed . If you ask God to open your eyes ,listen to sam shamoun, and christian prince you'll soon realise this is false religion, like Mormon Church is also . I saw yesterday, in Iran 50 thousand out of 75 thousand mosques are closed, everyone there is leaving Islam and on the internet every five seconds some leaves Islam GOD BLESS, jesus is Lord , pray stay calm and ask God to open your heart if what I'm saying is true ,to see it ..
@azerj3407
@azerj3407 10 ай бұрын
brother alex, excellent rebuttal! can't wait for part 2! God bless you!
@ernestleyva8406
@ernestleyva8406 10 ай бұрын
Christianity was forced in the Americas by the conquistadores not because of the evangelist
@tareqdb9
@tareqdb9 10 ай бұрын
Yeah. You are wrong about forced conversion and Muslims going around carrying capital punishment outside of their jurisdiction.
@SoldierDrew
@SoldierDrew 10 ай бұрын
The main teaching in Islam that proved to me that Islam is false and Muhammed was false prophet was #1. the prophecy that if Mohammed gave false prophecies Allah would cut off his aorta. . .then as he was dying he declared his aorta was cut off by the poison lamb he ate. #2. The prophecy that eating seven adjwah dates would protect Mohammed from poison. . .then he died of eating poisoned lamb. Then in 2013 an angel of the Lord woke me up, standing in my room, and told me three times that , "Jesus is coming" as he pointed up towards the ceiling as though he could see the sky beyond the ceiling of my room. So for me Christ Jesus of Nazareth is the way, the truth and the life. Muhammad , by his own prophecies, proved himself a false prophet in Hadith. Also, Mohammed prophecied that the word of God is protected and can never be corrupted. And Mohammed prophesied that the books, the Jewish Torah and the gospels of Christian epistles , were God's word. . . which means they're true and can never be corrupt, according to Muhammad prophecy. And I can not speak of the perverse reprobate culture of #Dubaiportapotty parties in a Sharia Islamic nation. Isa hu akbar! Isa hu akbar! Isa hu akbar!
@darklord8388
@darklord8388 9 ай бұрын
The poison didn't kill him, he got healed from it, just because he felt some pain in his aorta doesn't mean the poison killed him it's like if somebody's arm gets broken, he goes to a docter and gets it fixed then 3 years later that person can still feel some pain in his arm even tho his arm works perfectly. If you look at how many things Muhammad did the last 3 years in his life, you'll see that the poison didn't kill him
@cw6560
@cw6560 9 ай бұрын
The protesrants had a Sistem of no lawyer No trail just kill. Please talk about it in a historical video as needed.
@tasmarkou5681
@tasmarkou5681 8 ай бұрын
Listen to jay dyer ,was,born protestant, then cathloic for 10 years now Orthodox
@artasheskeshishyan4281
@artasheskeshishyan4281 9 ай бұрын
💯
@jaysonperez2598
@jaysonperez2598 10 ай бұрын
Calling my prophet a war criminal will only harm you and the people you convince in the grave. If you have been successfully coerced of certain narratives of somebody is one thing but pushing them is another. W that said I still have to give credit where its due, outside that remark everything else said in this video was about 90% correct. It shows this guy is at least genuine. And yea to say I didnt throw my hands in the air (in obvious agreement) several times in this video would be a lie. One thing every Christian loves to forget about though is the Spanish Inquisitions, was that a civil, local, and moral matter to put those disbelievers to death, better yet use the children as target practice ? was that in alignment w what was commanded by God in the old testament or was that murder like you pointed out ? Lets be consistent all the way not just where you get cornered to. Lets not just pretend Christiand havent done as much if not more spreading offensively. Mexicans speak spanish and are Catholic as a result of that inquisition. Remark aside, overall good response from this fellow christian. He seems to be a true christian and at least not a phony.
@efrencruz8327
@efrencruz8327 10 ай бұрын
jaysonperez2598 you should debate christian prince bro since you like to lie a lot then debate christian prince just call him on his youtube channel bro dont run away debate bro
@IslamEducations
@IslamEducations 10 ай бұрын
The mass*acre of Christians in Constantinople, Arabia and Libya (do you want to forget that several Christians in Libya were k*lled for their religion by Islam?) The invasion and plunder of Spain, the Armenian ge*nocide by the Ottomans! If you want again, I will tell you
@IslamEducations
@IslamEducations 10 ай бұрын
muhammad was ra*per Muhairiz said “I entered the mosque and saw Abu Sa’id Al Khudri . I sat with him and asked about withdrawing the penis (while having intercourse). Abu Sa’id said We went out with the Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) on the expedition to Banu Al Mustaliq and took some Arab women captive and we desired the women for we were suffering from the absence of our wives and we wanted ransom , so we intended to withdraw the penis (while having intercourse with the slave women). But we asked ourselves “can we draw the penis when the Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) is among us before asking him about it? So we asked him about it. He said “it does not matter if you do not do it, for very soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.” Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) صحيح (الألباني) حكم : Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 2172 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Abu Sa’id Al Khudri said “The Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of Apostle of Allaah (ﷺ) were reluctant to have relations with the female captives because of their pagan husbands. So, Allaah the exalted sent down the Qur’anic verse “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hand posses.” This is to say that they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period. Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) صحيح (الألباني) حكم : Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 2155
@IslamEducations
@IslamEducations 10 ай бұрын
The mass*acre of Christians in Constantinople, Arabia and Libya (do you want to forget that several Christians in Libya were k* lled for their religion by Islam?) The inv asion and plu nder of Spain, the Armenian ge*nocide by the Ottomans! If you want again, I will tell you
@user-lz1tz7um5w
@user-lz1tz7um5w 10 ай бұрын
​@@efrencruz8327😂😂 more like Christian princess, running from men and hiding, he's just another coward 😂
@PayanRichie
@PayanRichie 10 ай бұрын
Really informative, I learned so much already. This is my new favorite channel !! Can you make a video about the Saint Benedict Medal. ??? Gratias Tibi 🙏
@VoiceOfReason_
@VoiceOfReason_ 10 ай бұрын
Yes I can! 🙏🏽
@jamesisaacson6379
@jamesisaacson6379 10 ай бұрын
​@VoiceOfReason_ question about purgatory so who go there what requirements to go to purgatory instead of straight to hevan and how would someone who is on path to hell change path to purgatory also what different between catholic church beliefs and othroxy church beliefs?
@joebaz4844
@joebaz4844 6 ай бұрын
@@VoiceOfReason_ Biggest reason I left... kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmOki2admc2raKcsi=0V0OlQ63VGcpmk1P
@Ghazzawimj
@Ghazzawimj 10 ай бұрын
Prophet Mohammad PBUH Didn't commit war crimes as you are claiming. But yes, we need a debate with real cristians not Liberal cristians.
@tasmarkou5681
@tasmarkou5681 8 ай бұрын
Didn't commit war crimes are you for real YOU CAN HAVE SEX WITH THOSE YOUR RIGHT HAND POSSESSS,? Sura 4.24 And [forbidden to you are] all married women other than those whom you rightfully possess!!! This verse says you can have sex with your women captives, but what women would want to have consensual sex with her male captives, they would have to RAPE them. The real facts never considered by Muslim Muslims have alot of trouble debating and arguing certain facts and sources, is because Islam was started by Satan , Gibril that appeared to Mahamed , was the devil in disguise . Did you know there is a Verae in the bible ,2 corinthians 11-14 It says, For Satan himself can transforms into an angel of light. If Mahamed new the gospels and this verse , he would have been more careful that Gibril doesn't say something that contradicts other scriptures, and if he heard something odd he may have thought, if Allahs words cannot change Why is this angel saying jesus didn't die, and realise this couldnt be the real Gibril it must be Satan in disguise as the bible warns us ! This is why it allows rape of female captives, sex with children, he made his adopted son divorce his wife so he can marry her , seriously would God honestly say this is,ok? If you use your logic there is something wrong. . But poor Muslims get confused because the quran has taken characters of the torah and gospels and put them in the quran to give it historical credibility, and make it look continuous But everything the quran says ,is not consistent with other prophets, and muslins can't figure out that maybe mahamed was fooled, thats why they say like there are errors in the torah and gospels , but there isn't , but how else can they justify the contradictions otherwise? And Satan did exactly the samething with prophet Joseph smith in the Mormon Church An angel called Moroni , appeared to him and told him all religions are wrong ,I'm here to tell you ths truth. And he told him ,there's are millions of Gods and you can become a God , if Joseph Smith knew the scriptures ,he would know there is a verse that says in Isaiah 43:10 King James Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me... So he could have used his,logic and thought God would not contradict himself, why is this Angel Moroni saying there many Gods and you can become one, and isaha is saying , no gods before or after me..? And if he knew 2 -corinthians 11-14, that Satan can transform himself into and angel of light, he would have realised he is being deceived.. Now you can understand and follow me ,when I talk about Joseph Smith being fooled and being a false prophet , but because you were raised in Islam and are emotionally involved, you can't see it. If you are being honest with yourself, Satan pulled the same trick on Mahamed . If you ask God to open your eyes ,listen to sam shamoun, and christian prince you'll soon realise this is false religion, like Mormon Church is also . I saw yesterday, in Iran 50 thousand out of 75 thousand mosques are closed, everyone there is leaving Islam and on the internet every five seconds some leaves Islam GOD BLESS, jesus is Lord , pray stay calm and ask God to open your heart if what I'm saying is true ,to see it ..
@Rakoon1985
@Rakoon1985 4 ай бұрын
Yes it is inherently immoral. Death penalty is wrong and Catholic Church has condamned it too.
@user-kw6yj3ho5v
@user-kw6yj3ho5v 3 ай бұрын
So God is immoral?
@brandonwiles-n8t
@brandonwiles-n8t 10 ай бұрын
If you believe gospels are "a book of fables", you are not a Christian.
@deedeee6271
@deedeee6271 10 ай бұрын
Robert Spencer, by his own words, claimed that his biggest issue with Islam was that it "sanctifies violence". Yet, when his own religious text apparently does the same, in his sloppy attempt to remain "consistent'" he ends up throwing his own religious text and faith under the bus. Agreed, a terrible performance by Spencer and an excellent question from Jake.
@alizvondhordez4314
@alizvondhordez4314 9 ай бұрын
24:30 heeeh its flip At first only him and his friend and grow little by litte they got Prosecuted and leave home and got new place and they got attacked, defense win to got truce and the attackers broke the truce he went back to home without killing anyone or harming them to get his stuff back.. And that the start
@Person29-fz4ql
@Person29-fz4ql 10 ай бұрын
The trinity is not biblical and Jesus is not God Almighty, but rather a subordinate "god/divine being". Many early church fathers such as Justin Martyr believed that Jesus was another so-called "god" who was subordinate to the Almighty God. For example he said: _Justin: I shall attempt to persuade you, since you have understood the Scriptures, [of the truth] of what I say, that there is, and that there is said to be, _*_another God_*_ and Lord _*_subject to the Maker of all things_*_ ; who is also called _*_an Angel_*_ , because He announces to men whatsoever the Maker of all things- above whom there is no other God - wishes to announce to them. - (Dialogue with Trypho, Chapter 56)_ _...having learned that He is the Son of the true God Himself, and holding Him in the _*_second place_*_ , and the prophetic Spirit in the third, we will prove. For they proclaim our madness to consist in this, that we give to a crucified man _*_a place second to the unchangeable and eternal God, the Creator of all_*_ - (First Apology, Chapter 13)_ Tertullian also believed that Jesus didn't always exist eternally, but rather, had a beginning and was God's very first creation. He said: _Because God is in like manner a Father, and He is also a Judge; _*_but He has not always been Father_*_ and Judge, merely on the ground of His having always been God. For _*_He could not have been the Father previous to the Son_*_ , nor a Judge previous to sin. (There was, however, a time when neither sin existed with Him, _*_nor the Son_*_ ); the former of which was to constitute the Lord a Judge, _*_and the latter a Father_*_ . In this way He was not Lord previous to those things of which He was to be the Lord. But He was only to become Lord at some future time: _*_just as He became the Father by the Son_*_ , and a Judge by sin, so also did He become Lord by means of those things which He had made, in order that they might serve Him. - (Against Hermogenes, Chapter 3)_ _Let Hermogenes then confess that _*_the very Wisdom of God is declared to be born and created_*_ , for the special reason that we should not suppose that there is any other being than _*_God alone who is unbegotten and uncreated_*_ . For if that, which from its being inherent in the Lord was of Him and in Him, was yet _*_not without a beginning_*_ - I mean His wisdom, which was then _*_born and created_*_ , when in the thought of God It began to assume motion for the arrangement of His creative works...But if this same _*_Wisdom is the Word of God_*_ , in the capacity of Wisdom, and (as being He) without whom nothing was made, just as also (nothing) was set in order without Wisdom, how can it be that anything, except the Father, should be older, and on this account indeed nobler, than the Son of God, the _*_only-begotten_*_ and _*_first-begotten_*_ Word? Not to say that _*_what is unbegotten is stronger than that which is born, and what is not made more powerful than that which is made. Because that which did not require a Maker to give it existence, will be much more elevated in rank than that which had an author to bring it into being_*_ - (Against Hermogenes, Chapter 18)_ _He is the image of the invisible God, the _*_firstborn_*_ of all creation. - Colossians 1:15 - ESV_ _“And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, _*_the beginning of God's creation_*_ - Revelation 3:14 - ESV_ _The Lord _*_created me_*_ at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of old. - Proverbs 8:22 - RSV_ The Father is the *Supreme/Almighty* God above all the other divine beings/gods as there are *technically* multiple gods (divine beings), for example: _-Give thanks to the _*_God of gods_*_ , for his steadfast love endures forever. - Psalm 136:2 - ESV_ _-The angels - compare Hebrews 2:7 to Psalm 8:5 - uses the word _*_elohim_* _-The human judges of Israel - Psalm 82 - "I said, “You are _*_gods_*_ , sons of the Most High, all of you;" - Humans who are _*_divinely_*_ appointed by God in the capacity to serve as judges_ _-1 Corinthians 8:5 - ESV - For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth- _*_as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”-_* _-Satan is technically a god, albeit an evil one. - 2 Corinthians 4:4 - ESV - In their case _*_the god of this world_*_ has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God_ John 1:1 describes the pre-human Jesus as "theos", a god/divine being, not the Almighty God. Ancient manuscripts of John 1:18 describe Jesus as the "only-begotten god" not merely the "only-begotten son", nor the Almighty God. In John 20:28, Thomas says "my lord and my god" as an emotional expression of astonishment, not that he is the Almighty God. This is further shown by the fact that just a few verses prior to this in verse 17, in John 20:17, Jesus said that he was ascending to *his God* : _-Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to _*_my God_*_ and your God.’”_ And Ephesians 1:17: _-that the _*_God of our Lord Jesus Christ_*_ , the _*_Father_*_ of glory, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him_ And Revelation 1:1: _-The revelation of Jesus Christ, _*_which God gave him_*_ to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John_ And Revelation 1:6: _-and made us a kingdom, priests to _*_his God_*_ and Father, to him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen_ And Revelation 3:2: _-Wake up, and strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your works complete in the sight of _*_my God_* And Revelation 3:12: _-The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of _*_my God_*_ . Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of _*_my God_*_ , and the name of the city of _*_my God_*_ , the new Jerusalem, which comes down from _*_my God_*_ out of heaven, and my own new name_ If Jesus has another god above him (the Father), then by definition he can't be the Almighty God. To be Almighty means that you are at the top of the hierarchy with no one else above you. This can't be said about Jesus if he *has a god* even after he was exalted, given all authority in heaven and on earth and ascended back to heaven . The Father is the *most* high God. Jesus isn't. Jesus is the *Son* of the *most* high God. Mark 5:7 says: _-And crying out with a loud voice, he said, “What have you to do with me, _*_Jesus, Son of the Most High God?_*_ I adjure you by God, do not torment me.”_ Paul says in 1 Corinthians 8:6 that ultimately, we have *one God, the Father* and *one Lord, Jesus Christ* : _-yet for us there is _*_one God, the Father_*_ , from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and _*_one Lord, Jesus Christ_*_ , through whom are all things and through whom we exist_ Paul describes the Father as our *one God* , who is the ultimate source of all things, while describing Jesus as our *one Lord* , who all things were created *through* , because Jesus is the *agent* by which God created all things. In John 17:3, Jesus describes the Father as the only True God: _-And this is eternal life, that they know you, _*_the only true God_*_ , and Jesus Christ whom you have sent_ Jesus isn't implying that he himself or the angels are "false" gods/divine beings because he called the Father the only true God. The Greek word used here for "true" is the word "ἀληθινός", which means the true archetype of something or "the ultimate version of something" or "...in every way possible". This same Greek word is used in John 1:9 when Jesus is called the "true light", yet in Matthew 5:14, Jesus called his disciples "...the light of the world". His disciples are not false light all because Jesus is called the "true" light. And so, in like manner, in John 17:3, Jesus says that the Father is the "only true(ἀληθινός) God" because the Father is the *Supreme/Almighty/Ultimate* God above all other gods/divine beings such as the angels and Jesus. Jesus is a "god" who is superior to the angels but inferior to the Father, the Almighty God.
@TheOne-cf3lh
@TheOne-cf3lh 10 ай бұрын
None of this contradicts our belief and it seems you may have a misunderstanding here. A mistake a lot of you Muslims make us you keep using Church Fathers and Trinitarians to try and discredit Trinitarian Christianity. This is like me using Muhammad to try and discreet Islam. It’s a fallacious position and it just shows that I don’t understand your position. Anyway, Our Creed literally says “God from God” so it really depends on the context in the way you’re using the word “God” as God can’t just “un-God” himself since he has no Origin; he is Origin itself and existence. So whatever the Father is in his nature the Son and Holy Spirit are as well. Second of all, in our Theology we agree that Jesus was subordinate to the Father in his Human Nature. There’s no contradiction there. It’s also in our Creed when it states “For our sake”. Also, have you ever even looked into the Monarchy of the Father? In our theology the Father has Aseity in his Person and Nature since he is the Source of the Trinity. This is literally in Our Creed too which is it starts with “I believe in One God the Father almighty”. Stop using Trinitarians and Christian sources to “debunk” Christianity because it just shows your lack of understanding.
@Person29-fz4ql
@Person29-fz4ql 10 ай бұрын
​@@TheOne-cf3lh It seems you didn't carefully read what I said. I'm not a Muslim. I'm a Christian. Jesus had a divine pre-human existence and brought all the angels and even the entire universe into existence. What do you suppose Justin Martyr meant when he called Jesus, "another God and Lord subject to the Maker of all things ; who is also called an Angel"? No Trinitarian would ever utter the words "another God", yet Justin Martyr does. Why would Tertullian say "There was, however, a time when neither sin existed with Him, nor the Son...and...just as He became the Father by the Son , and a Judge by sin"? There's only one true God, and that's the Father, as Jesus said in John 17:3, "And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." If the Father is the *only* true God, then that means God is only *one person, the Father* . In Hebrews 2:7 it says "You made him for a little while lower than the angels". If Jesus has two natures, then which nature was "made lower than the angels"? Philippians 2:7 says, "but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men." . If Jesus has two natures, then which nature was "emptied"? If you have to use mental gymnastics to understand such basic verses, then clearly the trinity is wrong.
@TheOne-cf3lh
@TheOne-cf3lh 10 ай бұрын
@@Person29-fz4qlOh well, my mistake but my comment stands. Stop using Trinitarians to defend your Unitarian position. It’s a bad look because it shows you don’t understand the Trinitarian position. “No Trinitarian would ever utter the words "another God", yet Justin Martyr does.” Yet, our Creed quite literally says “God from God” so it depends on the context you’re using the word “God” here. I can ask you the same question as to why the Creed says “God from God” and what does that mean? "” There was, however, a time when neither sin existed with Him, nor the Son...and..just as He became the Father by the Son, and a Judge by sin"? “ Yeah, the Son became Man to redeem us back to the Father. You see this all ties into our theology. This pertains to the Plan of Salvation. Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned- The Word didn’t randomly become Man just because but there’s a reason. Romans 5:14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come. Now, he didn’t have too but he did as a gift. Yes, Jesus is God because the Father is God. The Son is One God because The Father is One God. Again, go to the Creed “I believe in One God, the Father almighty”. “ If Jesus has two natures, then which nature was "emptied"? If you have to use mental gymnastics to understand such basic verses, then clearly the trinity is wrong.” The term is called “Kenosis” and I’d read up on it because it deals with this very question. Now, how can God be one Person? Do you understand how dumb that sounds? Quite literally. If God has no word or thought how can you predicate anything from him? How do you avoid falling into the errors of Deism and an impersonal God?
@Person29-fz4ql
@Person29-fz4ql 10 ай бұрын
@@TheOne-cf3lh Yes, your creed says "God from God", yet in the same breath, you will say there is One God in Three persons. Your creed also says "True God from True God" but this is incorrect as Jesus says that the Father is the *only true God* . The Nicene Creed would at least make a bit more sense if it said "god from True God" as the pre-human Jesus was technically "a god so-to-speak/theos", but that doesn't make him the "True God" like the Father. And Justin Martyr not only says Jesus was "another God" but he also says that he was "subject to the Maker of all things ; who is also called an Angel" regarding his pre-human existence. Why would Justin Martyr describe the pre-human Jesus as being subject to the maker of all things, and also being called an Angel? And when Tertullian says, "There was, however, a time when neither sin existed with Him, nor the Son...and...just as He became the Father by the Son , and a Judge by sin" he's not even talking about Jesus as a man. He's talking about when he begot Jesus in heaven. He literally says, "Because God is in like manner a Father, and He is also a Judge; *but He has not always been Father* and Judge". Why would Tertullian say that God has not always been a Father if supposedly Jesus always existed eternally? He says there was a time when the son did not exist with him. I'm not sure how saying that God is one person means that he has "no word or thought". The Father is the most powerful divine being in existence, and he doesn't *need* anyone in order to have thoughts. A "mysterious", and "impossible-to-understand" triune God full of many contradictions is much more of an "impersonal God" than a God that is a singular Almighty person that you can understand. Jesus obviously did not believe he was God if he said, "...Believe in God; believe also in me" (John 14:1), and that he *had to be given* the Revelation by God in Revelation 1:1 even long after he was exalted and given all authority in heaven and on earth.
@vaderkurt7848
@vaderkurt7848 10 ай бұрын
@@Person29-fz4ql "I'm a christian" HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA No you can't be a christian and not believe in the trinity otherwise you are a heretic.
@andreaarmstrong1829
@andreaarmstrong1829 10 ай бұрын
Ep2!!!🎉
@elrevolu
@elrevolu 10 ай бұрын
Patrick needs to get you on the podcast next for the redemption ! 🔥🙏
@yoyogi52
@yoyogi52 10 ай бұрын
There is no compulsion in religion” Quran 2: 256 The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve." Quran 18: 29 In islam apostate is killed only if he bad mouths and becomes anti islam through words or actions. But if he just switches religion, he's not killed
@JustKevin29
@JustKevin29 10 ай бұрын
Surah 9:29 says fight those who don’t believe in Allah and Muhammed. We just found a contradiction based on your Surah 2:256
@yoyogi52
@yoyogi52 10 ай бұрын
@@JustKevin29 what's the contradiction
@tacom0nsta658
@tacom0nsta658 10 ай бұрын
@@JustKevin29 you're cherry-picking a verse out of context. it's getting old and only makes you look stupid and insincere. I get it, you cherry-picking YOUR OWN BIBLE, so why not do it with the Quran. pathetic.
@JustKevin29
@JustKevin29 10 ай бұрын
@@yoyogi52 one verse says there is compulsion in religion which means you can believe what you want and the other verse says fight those who don’t believe in Allah and Muhammed
@raeesfc217
@raeesfc217 10 ай бұрын
@@JustKevin29read the full verse you clown😂 it is talking about disbelievers who fight you 🤣
@jamalshah2432
@jamalshah2432 10 ай бұрын
I'm a Muslim, big fan of Ali Dawah, Muslim Skeptic, Mohammed Hijab. But I'd like to see you in these type of debates/discussions in the future. Inter-faith discussions from the Muslims need to be held with real Christians. Some of it has to be them inviting you, but I hope you do your part and push/ask them for it as well.
@jamalshah2432
@jamalshah2432 10 ай бұрын
btw to your last point, you can find examples of Islam going outside of their circle to implement their beliefs, but let's not pretend that there are not examples of Christians doing that as well (Crusaders). And Mohammed Hijab makes the point that all the societies of the past, Romans, Persians, and Islam use brute force to expand their empire (reference 1st debate with Peterson) and if you don't you will cease to exist (to which Peterson concedes and retracts his "warlord" comment)
@jorgeG8188
@jorgeG8188 10 ай бұрын
Bro, you are completely misinterpreting the Bible, Jesus was all about “loving our enemy”, “forgiving” our enemy, “let he who is without sin throw the first stone,". The worst part is that all these Muslims on here think Catholicism is Christianity, they literally use the Catholic beliefs to disprove Christianity. You are doing the word of God a disservice by saying the Christian church approves the death penalty. Maybe the Catholic church approves it but not God himself. Jesus is all about Love to those who don’t deserve it. Granted he will not come back as a lamb next time. He is the final judge we have no say in how a person should die. Those who do will be judged accordingly by God himself.
@GuitarBloodlines
@GuitarBloodlines 10 ай бұрын
Catholicism is Christianity, also, God approves of the death penalty
@roseg4771
@roseg4771 10 ай бұрын
The Muslims won the debate. They had more truth from the Bible.
@Ange0967
@Ange0967 10 ай бұрын
Most definitely not. Perverted and twisted truth to their own stupid understanding.
@chrisanok9283
@chrisanok9283 9 ай бұрын
Muslim lost. Its a lie
@tasmarkou5681
@tasmarkou5681 8 ай бұрын
The real facts never considered by Muslim Muslims have alot of trouble debating and arguing certain facts and sources, is because Islam was started by Satan , Gibril that appeared to Mahamed , was the devil in disguise . Did you know there is a Verae in the bible ,2 corinthians 11-14 It says, For Satan himself can transforms into an angel of light. If Mahamed new the gospels and this verse , he would have been more careful that Gibril doesn't say something that contradicts other scriptures, and if he heard something odd he may have thought, if Allahs words cannot change Why is this angel saying jesus didn't die, and realise this couldnt be the real Gibril it must be Satan in disguise as the bible warns us ! This is why it allows rape of female captives, sex with children, he made his adopted son divorce his wife so he can marry her , seriously would God honestly say this is,ok? If you use your logic there is something wrong. . But poor Muslims get confused because the quran has taken characters of the torah and gospels and put them in the quran to give it historical credibility, and make it look continuous But everything the quran says ,is not consistent with other prophets, and muslins can't figure out that maybe mahamed was fooled, thats why they say like there are errors in the torah and gospels , but there isn't , but how else can they justify the contradictions otherwise? And Satan did exactly the samething with prophet Joseph smith in the Mormon Church An angel called Moroni , appeared to him and told him all religions are wrong ,I'm here to tell you ths truth. And he told him ,there's are millions of Gods and you can become a God , if Joseph Smith knew the scriptures ,he would know there is a verse that says in Isaiah 43:10 King James Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me... So he could have used his,logic and thought God would not contradict himself, why is this Angel Moroni saying there many Gods and you can become one, and isaha is saying , no gods before or after me..? And if he knew 2 -corinthians 11-14, that Satan can transform himself into and angel of light, he would have realised he is being deceived.. Now you can understand and follow me ,when I talk about Joseph Smith being fooled and being a false prophet , but because you were raised in Islam and are emotionally involved, you can't see it. If you are being honest with yourself, Satan pulled the same trick on Mahamed . If you ask God to open your eyes ,listen to sam shamoun, and christian prince you'll soon realise this is false religion, like Mormon Church is also . I saw yesterday, in Iran 50 thousand out of 75 thousand mosques are closed, everyone there is leaving Islam and on the internet every five seconds some leaves Islam GOD BLESS, jesus is Lord , pray stay calm and ask God to open your heart if what I'm saying is true ,to see it ..
@kalu9541
@kalu9541 10 ай бұрын
Christians are so foolish to not see that when god revealed his name "I am", he literally meant it. God is existence. God is life. That's what Jesus meant with "I and the father are one", he was just pure presence and nothing else. He didn't say he was god and the rest was not, because he is not more of a god than we are.
@kalu9541
@kalu9541 10 ай бұрын
@danvinsontrailor2339 It means exactly what he said. The key to life is to just be. "I am" refers to being without thought. He didn't mean he was god and the rest of the world wasn't.
@kalu9541
@kalu9541 10 ай бұрын
​@danvinsontrailor2339I think you should read my answer again
@thepalegalilean
@thepalegalilean 10 ай бұрын
@@kalu9541 *It means exactly what he said.* This is patently dishonest. There's a difference between translating and exegeting. Typically, the Ummah understand the former, but have extremely subpar knowledge of the latter. We all know what Jesus said, but what can we conclude his meaning to be based on those words? When you do proper exegesis, Jesus clearly thinks that He is a Person of God. This is so abundantly apparent more so, when we see the reaction of His audience. They wanted top stone him for blasphemy. What is blasphemous about claiming that the key to life is simply to be? This reaction can only make sense when you understand Jesus is equating himself with Yahweh. Now, this the part where you claim, 'tHe bibLe iS cOrRuPtEd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'
@tasmarkou5681
@tasmarkou5681 8 ай бұрын
You are wrong.. The real facts never considered by Muslim Muslims have alot of trouble debating and arguing certain facts and sources, is because Islam was started by Satan , Gibril that appeared to Mahamed , was the devil in disguise . Did you know there is a Verae in the bible ,2 corinthians 11-14 It says, For Satan himself can transforms into an angel of light. If Mahamed new the gospels and this verse , he would have been more careful that Gibril doesn't say something that contradicts other scriptures, and if he heard something odd he may have thought, if Allahs words cannot change Why is this angel saying jesus didn't die, and realise this couldnt be the real Gibril it must be Satan in disguise as the bible warns us ! This is why it allows rape of female captives, sex with children, he made his adopted son divorce his wife so he can marry her , seriously would God honestly say this is,ok? If you use your logic there is something wrong. . But poor Muslims get confused because the quran has taken characters of the torah and gospels and put them in the quran to give it historical credibility, and make it look continuous But everything the quran says ,is not consistent with other prophets, and muslins can't figure out that maybe mahamed was fooled, thats why they say like there are errors in the torah and gospels , but there isn't , but how else can they justify the contradictions otherwise? And Satan did exactly the samething with prophet Joseph smith in the Mormon Church An angel called Moroni , appeared to him and told him all religions are wrong ,I'm here to tell you ths truth. And he told him ,there's are millions of Gods and you can become a God , if Joseph Smith knew the scriptures ,he would know there is a verse that says in Isaiah 43:10 King James Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me... So he could have used his,logic and thought God would not contradict himself, why is this Angel Moroni saying there many Gods and you can become one, and isaha is saying , no gods before or after me..? And if he knew 2 -corinthians 11-14, that Satan can transform himself into and angel of light, he would have realised he is being deceived.. Now you can understand and follow me ,when I talk about Joseph Smith being fooled and being a false prophet , but because you were raised in Islam and are emotionally involved, you can't see it. If you are being honest with yourself, Satan pulled the same trick on Mahamed . If you ask God to open your eyes ,listen to sam shamoun, and christian prince you'll soon realise this is false religion, like Mormon Church is also . I saw yesterday, in Iran 50 thousand out of 75 thousand mosques are closed, everyone there is leaving Islam and on the internet every five seconds some leaves Islam GOD BLESS, jesus is Lord , pray stay calm and ask God to open your heart if what I'm saying is true ,to see it ..
@user-bg7tc1pk5q
@user-bg7tc1pk5q 10 ай бұрын
Alhamdolillah I invite you to Islam because christianity is not Jesus religion rather it is Paul the liar religion
@vaderkurt7848
@vaderkurt7848 10 ай бұрын
Jesus religion* He founded it and established it.
@sharkgaming4320
@sharkgaming4320 10 ай бұрын
Well Islam is the teaching and religion Mohammed not god see how dumb you sound also isn’t one of the debaters the same guys that said he would do an 11 month old baby if she had puberty
@user-bg7tc1pk5q
@user-bg7tc1pk5q 10 ай бұрын
@@vaderkurt7848 No he did not claim that he is Christian nor he wore a cross as the Christian nor he preached the trinity nor he ever mentioned that he is to be worshipped with God , he is a Prophet who has come to the Children of Israel So the Christianity today has nothing to do with Jesus
@user-bg7tc1pk5q
@user-bg7tc1pk5q 10 ай бұрын
@@vaderkurt7848 The Prophet peace be up on him Clearly mentioned that he was a Muslim And he believed in one God Why the real Jesus did not claim that he is a Christian?!
@vaderkurt7848
@vaderkurt7848 10 ай бұрын
@user-bg7tc1pk5q "He did not claim that he is christian." He never claimed to be a mosque or Muslim. He specifically established a church and died on a cross and that we are going to be apart of his unifying body. The historical Jesus has nothing to do with islam and funnily enough aligns with the Catholic Church.
@drkhai918
@drkhai918 10 ай бұрын
Next, go to speakers corner and speaks to Hijab 😂😂😂
@thepalegalilean
@thepalegalilean 10 ай бұрын
I don't think he should. If one really wishes to pollute himself, you can swim in raw sewage instead. It's much more effective in that regard and the raw sewage has more human value than Hijab in the first place.
@misericordepourlhumanite
@misericordepourlhumanite 10 ай бұрын
As a Muslim apologist studying 'Classical' Catholicism (mostly through pre-Vatican II documents), I really appreciate your take here. I've been watching many of your videos so I wasn't surprised by your honestly. Robert Spencer said modern Catholicism became too lukewarm on Islam (it is true that many priests became religious relativists after Vatican II) but I guess he would also have a lot of problems with pre-Vatican II texts condemning religious freedom as we know it today (the Fourth Lateran council, 'Exsurge Domine' and 'Mirari Vos' to name a few). Catholicism never condoned forced conversions but always advocated (before the modern era) for the repression of persistent public heretics by the State.
@vaderkurt7848
@vaderkurt7848 10 ай бұрын
Not necessarily lukewarm, but as catholics, we are willing to acknowledge the truths that Islam has and "profess" to hold the same God in the same vein as jews. But otherwise, miss the target and misunderstand God. However, that is far from being indifferent towards other religions or islam. In any case, if one recognizes that the Catholic Church holds the fullness of truth but refuse to enter it for whatever reason, then ya, that's pretty bad. The mary and Jesus and almost everything with our understanding revelation and how the catholic church claims to have been founded by Christ and is a continuation of Judaism would more often than not come clashing with islam. However, as always, the Catholic church does not have jurisdiction towards outside its faith.
@CarlJancorda
@CarlJancorda 10 ай бұрын
Muslims are crying in the comment section!😂😂😂😂😂😂!
@Devoted_Catholic777
@Devoted_Catholic777 10 ай бұрын
Great video good job brother
@TheApostolicLens
@TheApostolicLens 10 ай бұрын
Wow, because of your channel im so close to coming to the Lord’s church. Great video
@doloreshrabe7281
@doloreshrabe7281 10 ай бұрын
Welcome
@Ciilow24
@Ciilow24 10 ай бұрын
Congratulations for you coming back to God. Secondly, please read all the other religion books. So you have something that you can compare to know? Coming from a Muslim person, I would rather see you believe in God ❤
@DC_2055
@DC_2055 10 ай бұрын
If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God. 1 John 4:15
@pkmailboxx
@pkmailboxx 10 ай бұрын
Hands up, how many people in the comments here would be happy to see capital punishment for apostasy?
@THUNDERxSCREAM
@THUNDERxSCREAM 10 ай бұрын
I think the silence to ur comment is proof of how much christians are not ready to admit their own bible orders and encourages killing punishment even though they "believe" that god is the one that ordered it
@ChopGutta415
@ChopGutta415 10 ай бұрын
Idk why I wasn’t subscribed before but I am now
@janethuizar4029
@janethuizar4029 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Alex for the time you take to share and clarify the truth . God bless you 🙏
@VoiceOfReason_
@VoiceOfReason_ 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! God bless you too! 🙏🏽
@janethuizar4029
@janethuizar4029 10 ай бұрын
@@VoiceOfReason_ I can binge watch your videos all day long ! I’m a cradle catholic and in recent years I’ve been wanting to know more about the Catholic Church and there’s SO MUCH! It’s so beautiful and I just want to take it all in ! I’m learning day by day. And I’m so grateful for those who have taken the time to know the faith. It’s so refreshing to see men educated and firm in their faith. Keep it up Alex !
@VoiceOfReason_
@VoiceOfReason_ 10 ай бұрын
@@janethuizar4029 thank you so much, Janet! Please pray for me! I’ll be praying for you 🙏🏽
@janethuizar4029
@janethuizar4029 10 ай бұрын
@@VoiceOfReason_ Thank you . I need them very much. 😊 and I will definitely pray for you.
@VoiceOfReason_
@VoiceOfReason_ 10 ай бұрын
@@janethuizar4029 thank you, you’re the best!
@whosavedjesus
@whosavedjesus 10 ай бұрын
So is Spencer going to hell for rejection of God?
@Aleksandrakowalcze
@Aleksandrakowalcze 10 ай бұрын
thank you Alex. I actually learned something new
@monderzorgani8897
@monderzorgani8897 10 ай бұрын
He's covering the truth he's not a reliable source
@mythicel3909
@mythicel3909 10 ай бұрын
Dear brother in Bible Jesus may peace be upon him said “ Don’t pray to me, pray to the father “ so why do christians pray to Jesus may peace be upon him?
@jutlan854
@jutlan854 10 ай бұрын
where does He say that? My brother you are very wrong, in fact Jesus says the direct opposite. He says "If you ask anything in my name I will do it" referring to prayer. (John 14:13)
@DJSKdr18
@DJSKdr18 10 ай бұрын
When Jesus says something like this, he means God the Father. But again he said the father and son meaning he is the one. That's where we again find the Trinitarian concept. Father and Son both of them are one God. Nothing goes to God the Father without the God the Son.
@gee9579
@gee9579 10 ай бұрын
The trinity concept might be foreign and is a mystery that can never be unsolved but that’s the truth. There is ONLY ONE nature in God, and that there are two processions, three persons, and four relations that constitute the Blessed Trinity. So no, they’re not separated from one another.
@User-4517
@User-4517 10 ай бұрын
@@gee9579sound exactly like Hinduism… really, go and find out for yourself!
@mythicel3909
@mythicel3909 10 ай бұрын
I litterly just searched on google I mean you have the English version of the bible and I don’t can u search it? Psalm 50:15; Matthew 6:9-13
@misericordepourlhumanite
@misericordepourlhumanite 10 ай бұрын
I'd like to see someday a conversation between conservative Muslims like Daniel or Jakes and Traditional Catholics who are not afraid to defend papal documents condemning modern-day religious freedom like Mirari Vos.
@isaiasacosta1578
@isaiasacosta1578 10 ай бұрын
YESIRRRRRRRR Ep.2 out
@GloryTheMan000
@GloryTheMan000 10 ай бұрын
Awesome breakdown
@IslamEducations
@IslamEducations 10 ай бұрын
Keep go on my brother
@Anon.5216
@Anon.5216 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful teaching. Thank u.
@Acesinz
@Acesinz 10 ай бұрын
As a Muslim Thank you very much for acknowledging this. May God bless you & your loved ones ♥️
@SlovakGreekCatholic.
@SlovakGreekCatholic. 10 ай бұрын
Jesus is the way, and there is no other. God bless you.🙂
@IslamEducations
@IslamEducations 10 ай бұрын
You are not a Muslim, but you are doing taqiyyah!
@tacom0nsta658
@tacom0nsta658 10 ай бұрын
@@SlovakGreekCatholic. As muslims we do believe Jesus peace and blessings be upon him WAS the way during the time he was sent by his God Almighty to the Israelites. When God Almighty sent Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him to the world to take them from worshipping idols, and worshipping the creation to worshipping the Creator, the way became by obeying God, His final testament, the Qur'an, and following the model of the prophet Muhammad. We also believe with Jesus pbuh comes back he will also follow the Qur'an and way of the prophet Muhammad in ruling the world. It's what we believe. Peace, my brother.
@Catholic1391
@Catholic1391 10 ай бұрын
Eucharist Miracle of Jesus beating heart kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWWapGCNnLhql5I Science test Eucharist Miracle kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2TGooVjo9x8btU
@lukemurray4950
@lukemurray4950 10 ай бұрын
Either Jake (Muslim guy) doesn't understand Christianity or he ia purposely being dishonest to defend his (Islams) position on this. But watching the full podcast he showed he know so much so I would have to say he is being purposely dishonest. He wants to act like Christianity is just the old testament and that the new testament doesn't exist. Which is so irnoic becauee without the new testament, the religion is basically just Judaism and the whole reason Muslims like these and even in the Qur'an have respect for Christianity and not Judaism is because of the new testament beliefs. They also tried to say by ignoeing the old testament they are "throwing their religion under a bus" yet Muslims believe the old testament to be true and the word of God (courrpted) but yet they don't follow all of its beleifs when its contradicted by the more recent prophet of Mohammed. And hold the Qur'an as the final word. But this is exactly the same with Chrsirians, Jesus is the final proohet and his word will be taken over all others. My final point on this is that the Bible (New Testament) literally talks about the contradictions between and the new and old testament but again he either doesn't no or more likely ignores this because it destorys his nareative.
@thesantaofclauces4549
@thesantaofclauces4549 10 ай бұрын
BRO WHY DIDN'T THE BRING SAM SHAMOUN
@User-4517
@User-4517 10 ай бұрын
Sam is a keyboard warrior , lost his capslock energy when he came face to face with uthman 😂
@srbsrb3831
@srbsrb3831 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@User-4517You mean the same Uthman who faked a stabbing incident for public sympathy?
@juggernaut6141
@juggernaut6141 10 ай бұрын
Sam shamoun is a foul mouthed dog who ran way from sheikh uthman. No wonder his wife cheated on him with a plumber
@MagisterHamid
@MagisterHamid 10 ай бұрын
Have you seen the video when Sam meth Uthman in Balboa park? Sam didn’t even dear to say anything
@thesantaofclauces4549
@thesantaofclauces4549 10 ай бұрын
@@User-4517 is that so? so why is uthman running like 9 year old aisha running away from her rapist pedo prophet and not responding to sam's invitation to a debate?
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