The Evil Incel Who Planned to Kill Thousands...

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Hey folks! I'm always looking for interesting cases to cover. If you have any recommendations, then feel free to drop me an email or leave a comment down below. - especially international or internet-based cases that have plenty of media :)

[@Schadenfreude..]

Adrian. What about a progress “series” on that woman who apparently faked her abduction in Alabama…

[@MartinaLU6]

Rupperswil murder case (Switzerland)

[@blairtopa6072]

I first want to start with saying, I love your videos. You have a nice soothing voice. I would love to see you cover Skyler Deleon. That's one that really sticks in my head.

[@Chicken-ev1ln]

Murders of Eileen Sarmenta and Allan Gomez (PH)

[@AdamOBrien29]

Ian Watkins of Lost Prophets. Warning though it's extremely disgusting and horrific, as interesting as it is as a topic it's also one of the most stomach churning I've come across

[@yin-sin]

His mom is the real hero. She saw how dangerous her son was becoming and called authorities after a heated argument. She saved many lives without possibly knowing it.

[@indianastones6032]

His mum deserves a medal for probably doing the hardest thing in her life by handing her son in!!

[@stacyneuman8619]

She probably even saved her own life.

[@Etrius10]

Wish she would have been a good parent first instead.

[@SusanaXpeace2u]

​@Etrius10 how was it her fault her son got sucked in to toxic bitterness online

[@DoyleShadduck]

Debatable, he hadn’t actually carried out any crime, remember the FBI can indict a ham sandwich. His mother got him locked away for possibly a life term. I wouldn’t call her a hero, she could’ve always raised him to be responsible, but she took the easy way out and let the government do it. She’s not a hero, she’s a zero!

[@nikkimclay5474]

He had an excellent mother who actually cared enough for him to put a stop to this violent plan. Great respect mam .

[@Mark-uh4zd]

Yeah, but he's a chinlet. I do feel bad for men that have no chin, glad I got good genetics

[@Rexorazor]

But he's now gonna be forever in jail after he tried fixing his life.

[@0cancer_gaming0]

I wouldnt call his mother excellent in that regard since she turned a blind eye to her sons deranged behaviours until it was too late. If she actually noticed what he was turning into from the beginning she could step up and bring him to counselling and give him a chance to become a normal human again. Instead she just waited until he was too far down into the "redpill" ideology and called the cops on her own son.

[@nikkimclay5474]

@@0cancer_gaming0 you obviously know nothing about mental illness development in childhood & adolescence, I do. She was excellent in my professional experience. I said “to put a stop to this violent plan”. I did not refer to her parenting of him as a baby to adulthood because I cant & neither can you.

[@kubaprosek9989]

@@Mark-uh4zdtf has that got to do with the comment you're replying to? Your chin's probably dogshit too

[@BgChf-dg5lv]

I love this guy’s mom. Took no crap, realized the danger that her son was, and actually took action. I just feel bad that her son is this monster. My heart goes out to her. May she and the rest of her family be well.

[@thedannybseries8857]

The son wasn't a monster. no one is.

[@QWERTY-gp8fd]

i can understand actual lonely men snapping but bro he has mother. dude aint incel , he is volcel because he dont want partner he want slave.@@thedannybseries8857

[@scifirealism5943]

He got seven years in prison, plus five years supervised release.

[@adamantiiispencespence4012]

He never actually even hurt anyone and seemed to be turning his life around before being brought back on federal charges. He's not a well or good person but he's not a monster.

[@phoeberaymond8781]

Justice was actually served in this case and his mother did the hardest thing a mother can do, and is the real hero

[@irondraak960]

Tres mother let him turn into that person, hero is not a word I would use to describe her. A Coward would be more fitting.

[@derp_dragons]

A bit of a sidenote: Feeling lonely and not worthy of love is bad enough but the social pressure, to find a partner (even if you don't even want one) or else something's wrong with you is so unhelpful towards young people and I hope that this mindset will eventually change.

[@scuffed_jayz2976]

Finding a partner isn't that hard tho?

[@derp_dragons]

@@scuffed_jayz2976 Oh wow, you actually took the time to comment something so thoughtless. What a waste of time.

[@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen]

Finding a partner is important because of the human need for socialization and companionship. We can't base our societal standards on a divergent few when it's to the detriment of the majority. Most people benefit greatly from having someone special in their life and if you don't want that there *is* some form of issue involved. It's not normal by any standard, be it physical or mental, for someone to not be interested in affection and love, if you aren't it's a sign you need counseling and/or a diagnoses to fill in the blanks. It's not a matter of mindset, it's a matter of what benefits the species and what is healthy for the majority of us. That being said, if you date someone purely because people tell you that you should, that's called poor decision making. You can't blame those around you for doing something with no reason other than, "They told me to."

[@derp_dragons]

@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen to base your selfworth on having a partneris not healthy either. So is thinking that you can only be loved by a SO. And lastly, not constantly being in a relationship to have time to figure yourself out and to learn who you are as a person is rather beneficial to your personal growth. It seems obvious to me that you never were in the situation or heard of anyone where the pressure to "finally be a normal person" is pushed so hard that even the father tries to get his son laid by "buying him that experience". Fathers being pushy about this towards their sons seems to be quite common, from my experience. And I'm talking ~18 years. You also never seem to have encountered people who get into relationships just to be in a relationship. Because that's what society (and strangers on the internet, apparently) tells you is normal. Of which there are plenty. Doesn't sound healthy to me either and usually, going by the toxicity a relationship like that can have, it isn't. You also seem to imply that perfect partners with whom you can expierence your "normal human growth" with are everywhere, just waiting to get into a relationship with you. I mean, if that's the case for you, good on you. It's just not what basically 90% of other humans experience. Being a healthy, functioning human should not be based on you having a partner. You can still have a loving social environment. Friends and family do exist. So does personal growth without a partner. To say, you can only be at your best with a partner is sad. But exactly this mindset is what perfectly explains why so many people out there feel lonely and worthless. To imply, someone is not mentally sound because they don't *need* a partner 24/7 is a bit disturbing to me.

[@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen]

@@derp_dragons I was considering replying to you, but your complete lack of respect for anything I said and your twisting of my words means you don't deserve it. Try to approach things from a place of understanding instead of personal bias and maybe you'll see what's actually going on in the world around you instead of constantly being stuck so far in the extremes that you don't know what's real anymore.

[@UlyssesRyan-Flynn-w8b]

The piece at the end is a very thoughtful input. Adrian is keenly aware of the amount of lonely men out there, and should be commended

[@marshmellofluff]

One of my favorite things about this channel is how he sounds so objective, then will slide in snide comments about the killer in such a calm tone 😂 'skinny little rodent'

[@Esquinawatusi]

I love that too.

[@joannewilson1483]

⁠good grief he wonders why he didn’t have a lady friend these people need to grow up Elliott who.

[@motojunkie8348]

I can't stand it. It's a sign of weakness in my opinion. He wouldn't talk shit if the person was sitting in front of them so why do it at all? It's something school girls do and if I was this guys friends, I'd be careful.

[@WouldntULikeToKnow.]

​@@motojunkie8348nothing like using misogyny to insult an incel. Dude.

[@TheNarutodude1995]

This is why I love Coffee House Crimes. Dude is real, does not mince words about awful people, and is actually quite delicate when it comes to victims and giving advice. Dude is all around genuine.

[@24get24give]

\\so true, all those teey-bopper little twits putting on their makup and "true crime besties" while talking about the scum of the earth could take a lessons from Adrian in decenctyand respect

[@truth_hunter]

He blames women for not dating him and so on. But he choose to stay in his room and on the computer for several hours a day. How could he even meet anyone if he’s hibernating? It was his fault and his very negative thoughts that made his life difficult. We have to put an effort into something that we want. A woman isn’t gonna knock on the door saying I want to be your girlfriend. SMH

[@frigidchick5682]

Maybe he should've looked for on the internet for chicks who knock on doors for dates.

[@truth_hunter]

@@frigidchick5682 😂 at least then, he’d be trying more. 😆

[@scifirealism5943]

I'm going to community college part-time in person, an intern, volunteering, doing a study group soon, I'm also a part of a club(I missed the first meeting).

[@scifirealism5943]

I'M STILL A VIRGIN.

[@thedannybseries8857]

It wasn't his fault. Free will doesn't exist.

[@smellygoster2657]

Having a sexual partner isn't a "need"- it's a *want* . Big difference.

[@frumpy6611]

True. I hate when people put it that way. It makes incels feel even more entitled.

[@eddenoy321]

Spot on.

[@CRzdaName]

This 👍

[@justthefacts8872]

It is also not a right, but a privilege.

[@mjanny6330]

Look up Maslow’s hierarchy of needs.

[@DeepThought420]

The fact that the website they use was created by a Woman is somehow poetic! 😂😅

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Delicious irony, haha

[@wolfman210]

@@CoffeehouseCrime Want more irony? The red/blue pill thing comes from the Matrix which according to its creators was an allegory for coming out of the closet.

[@AdamOBrien29]

​@@wolfman210I hate that those losers use the Matrix for inspiration. One of the best and most exciting sci thrillers of all time being used by weak little boys

[@paballomolata8844]

​@@AdamOBrien29It makes sense that they leaned towards make believe instead of reality

[@sicooper4230]

@@wolfman210 That explains Tatey boy.

[@JEshwari5]

Glad that a massacre was stopped and that many lives were saved! Kudos to his mom for taking the right action! 🙌🏼 Tres is a ticking time bomb and it's good to have him locked up!

[@YONCE8701]

Mom deserves a standing ovation. 🤌🏾She saved countless lives!‼️👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Props to you mama❣️

[@joshmellor9950]

As of 29 February he has been sentenced to 80 months (6 years and 8 months) in prison.

[@sfi3807]

So he threw his life away.

[@chuckyyes]

@@sfi3807almost 7 years isn't long

[@BeckyJB]

What a scary experience for his mom 😢. He must get extreme counselling for any kind of mental turn around. I’m not sure what kind of life he’s capable of having after this….long jail sentence. (Which is needed)

[@JJBeauregard1]

What scares me about people like Tres Genco the most is their background. When Adrian described his childhood and upbringing he might as well have described my own - completely normal. Thinking about how I myself, at an impressionable age of let's say 15 for example, could've been one radicalised echo chamber away from potentially turning into one of those hateful maniacs truly sends shivers down my spine...

[@janay8176]

This is crazy! His mom is so brave. I think it would be a very hard decision to make as a Mother. I also loved how you ended this video with sound advice 😊

[@jancukasu]

21:52 No one seems to notice this, but shout out to Adrian here. In addition to retelling the story in the video, he wraps it up with kind, and reassuring words, addressing those who are "trapped" in incel situation. These gentle words and advise may somehow help people out from possible bleak future. Thanks Adrian.

[@ShiraKazamaMishima]

I will raise my future children as sigma,no social media ,listen to people who want them to do house work etc

[@helenbartoszek243]

I think Trey should get time served and be released. Nothing happened thanks to his mum, and like you said Adrian he had opportunity to carry out his plan, but didn't. Nothing is to be gained by him getting a lengthy sentence. The point of his mum interfering was to make sure innocent people were not killed and to save her son from committing murder not for him to end up behind bars.

[@thedannybseries8857]

I agree. Well said my man.

[@javierdariosanjuandecaro3290]

I suggest the case of Garavito, one of most notorious serial killers from Colombia. He did kill around 100 kids around the nineties.

[@jirarara669]

I hate hate HATE the obssession with virginity in society. No wonder dudes act like rabid dogs when they can't find a date, there's too much pressure and expectations to live up to for guys

[@thesaddestdude3575]

Its only gonna get worse you know...

[@kubaprosek9989]

Men promote that themselves tho, nobody rly gives af about your sex life, yet you have ppl sharing intimate details on social media for no reason, it's weird af tbh

[@lennard5393]

It's not only that but in a way they feel rejected by the femininely and compensate it by excessive masculinity it makes sense but it's not good at all how to solve it idk you'd have to make a trust bond with them and that is hard because they will keep looking for things they already believe about women because I'm sure if a girl have him a chuckle or a smile he wouldn't not know what to do with it it takes away the armor around their heart but still it gets rejected because they don't know how to react to it because it requires vulnerability

[@hopt-up2928]

​@kubaprosek9989 Women promote that shit too. Try sharing your opinion or experiences online. Even if it has nothing to do with sex or virginity. If it doesn't line up EXACTLY with what the women want, they'll call you an incel. It's their go to. I've seen it hundreds of times. Women use the term just as much (if not more) as men.

[@pyromaniac709]

They can always pay some hooker and get the deal done ffs

[@myrnae]

I am so glad his Mom reached out to the authorities when she did. Too many cases could be stopped if somebody just reached out when they saw red flags. Good on her!

[@TheElizabethashby]

AMEN

[@jaimiealtstiel5923]

Honey, Americans confuse Americans. Don't assume we understand ourselves. Also, I dated someone once thar was a dead ringer for this dude.

[@myrnae]

@@Cr0wsMurd3r Agreed. She should have reached out sooner, but at least she reached out before somebody lost their life.

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

His mom is the real MVP. A lot of respect for her.

[@Paulina--]

@@Cr0wsMurd3rMaybe his dad should? Huh? 🙂🙂🙂

[@Terr0rByte1]

It's so refreshing to hear about a parent that actually paid attention to their child, saw the red flags and had the courage to act before it was too late. 99.9% of the time, it's the opposite. Bravo that lady for refusing to turn a blind eye!

[@davemccage7918]

The mother of the Batman theater shooter could’ve definitely stopped her son, likewise with that sandy hook elementary school. Parents need to pay attention and stop making excuses for their weird ass kids.

[@maryjane4432]

We had a dad stop his daughter from going and shooting/blowing up a school in my tiny town. But was much like an incel but is a girl, she was 19 at the time. Her dad found her plans and called the cops. She is serving 20yr prison sentence at a psychiatric prison institution. She was going to try to blow it up and shoot her self. Name: Nicole cervario, place: Frederick co md. She wanted to be “the first real female school shooter”

[@snake5solid]

Not only they won't do anything but will also defend their degenerate kids. I hate that this happens. It sickens me how so many parents can be totally okay with rape and murder because their child is doing it. They wouldn't be singing the same song if their kid was a victim.

[@Terr0rByte1]

@@davemccage7918 Absolutely. This is why I hold onto the tiny little shred of faith in humanity that stories like this one provide with a vice grip!

[@Terr0rByte1]

@@maryjane4432 That's incredible in multiple ways - incredibly horrifying that she would aim to do that, but again, incredibly relieving that justice was served and the situation was controlled BEFORE disaster struck. Big props to that father. I'm really glad your town didn't suffer thanks to that unhinged individual.

[@christinaify]

Something that I find objectively fascinating is that this guy and Rogers *are not ugly* at all. I’d even go so far as to call Rogers handsome and so by their own logic, they should have had girls because that’s all women care about. It’s like no…you’re not ugly. You’re just an asshole.

[@Signiake294]

EXACTLY. That's the thing some of these commenters defending these killers can't get. He's better looking than I am too. He killed people, what kind of person did they think he was before? He could've been a huge asshole spewing bullshit for all we know. It bothers me that his defenders are saying he needed help but they're not talking about therapy, they're talking about him getting laid like it will solve all his problems 🙄

[@Lowclasswarrior778]

If that was the case he wouldn’t have did what he did

[@scifirealism5943]

I will be 29 in November and still a freaking kissless virgin.

[@Presbyter1337]

​@@Lowclasswarrior778 you know there are other factory than looks? I am certainly below average lookswise (and moneywise), still i have a pretty and nice fiancee (together for 7 years). Just dont be an asshole, dont be threatening or creepy and dont self pitty all the time, and you will be fine... And take the anime pic out of profile pics, its just too cringe

[@Subhuman5season]

@@Presbyter1337bro shut up we’re not taking advice from some doomer on KZbin

[@wandairizarry2445]

Some parents think their children will never have the capacity to hurt others. I am glad that in this case his mother paid attention and called the police. She was a hero, even if it hurt her deeply.

[@abebuckingham8198]

She stopped her son from becoming a murderer. That has to bring her some comfort too.

[@missychan63]

Probably the hardest thing she'll ever do... But she did the right thing.

[@carolinemaybe]

Sons who use their parents money to buy stuff like this should absolutely set alarm bells.

[@marksantiago9841]

Im not sure if she is hurt. Her son is a monster. Im sure it is not a difficult decision.

[@samaeltheundying]

*"After 5 months of basic training"* This man failed bootcamp. Twice. The entire concept of cohesion was lost on this guy, which speaks volumes to how he views relationships. Typical of the guy to claim insanity while also claiming to be taken seriously. Props to the Mom for her massive brass balls.

[@MmaLegend420]

David Goggins failed seal training 3 times. He's now the most inspirational man on the planet

[@pop4843]

Absolutely. Mom is the real hero on this one. I can't find myself blaming parents in other cases who didn't speak up soon enough, but I DO find myself applauding her for doing something.

[@johnub4]

I’m glad to hear that. This failure of a man DON’T deserve to be a soldier. A real soldier fights to make it right not live this insanity.

[@MizzKillercult]

​@@MmaLegend420nobody is talking about that guy.

[@MmaLegend420]

@@MizzKillercult His original argument was, since he failed bootcamp twice, cohesion was lost on him. I'm talking about a man who failed Seal training 3 times and came out better from it. Try to keep up.

[@sohu86x]

The mother saved her own son and the lives of countless others. A true hero.

[@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307]

I feel that now that he's in prison for life. He now wishes that he killed his own mother too.

[@sohu86x]

@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 he may be in prison for life but at least he doesn't have to live with the guilt of killing people (and his mother, maybe). That's the true punishment. Maybe if he reforms himself in prison he can come out and live a new life. But if he kills he not only lives with guilt but also lowers his chance of early release. Anyway you think about it, his mother did him a service.

[@lynnlynn9124]

I'm surprised that the rural Va inc3I, Cole Carini, didn't get a shout out because he was another Elliot Rogers wannabe from the same time period and just a few hours southeast. Cole had foiled his own plans to blow up "hot cheerleaders" when he arrived at an area hospital missing a hand and some fingers. The IEDs that he was making for the pretty girls, exploded as he was putting the finishing touches on one of them. He managed to drive to a hospital and told them it was a lawnmower accident. When cops when to the parent's home where he lived, it became obvious what happened. He has 7 years in prison to think about how he almost singlehandedly got revenge on cheerleaders, and how now he is just singlehanded for the rest of his life

[@racheljackson4428]

Moms, we salute you.

[@GraveYardShif7]

It's nice to see people giving reconition to the mother. Usually people who watch crime videos are so focused on talking about themselves or being an Armchair Psychologist.

[@jesterday2222]

The big mistake these men make is actually calling themselves 'incel'. Why degrade yourself like that? Why degrade anyone with ridiculous labels like stacy, chad, trad, terf, becky, wop, nerf and whatever. All this sickening, de-humanizing non-sense 🤢

[@scifirealism5943]

Yep

[@diablow1411]

Precisely! People are funny creatures, honestly; and the fact internet should never be really taken seriously.

[@thesaddestdude3575]

I'm sorry but i disagree a bit there, first im gonna self identify as an Incel, there bam. It isn't a term that has been forced upon me by myself. Its literally what i am, and people treat me as such. It has nothing to do with what i say or how i act i was born unattractive and as a result people are gonna treat me poorly. No matter what i say or do its gonna be misconstrued into something negative. It isn't a "mistake" men can make because the men women want to talk to anyways would never self identify as incels because they are nowhere near. While the men that identify with the incel movement would never be approached and often wouldn't even be considered human at all by most women.

[@theepicbellendoftomorrow4703]

What the fuck OP, you just listed a load of shit I’ve never even heard of!🤣🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♂️

[@mr.dickbuttboss8838]

​@@thesaddestdude3575 Young man... there's no need to feel down I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground I said, young man, 'cause you're in a new town There's no need to be unhappy…

[@yasminchan7425]

Thank god the mother took this seriously, so many parents just choose to ignore these things or brush it off as oh they're just angry they wouldn't actually do it

[@suspiciousactivity4266]

Most parents just don't care period.

[@Etrius10]

Wish she would have taken being a parent more seriously first.

[@alfreddreamer9097]

Mother of the year

[@ΓιώργοςΚαπάτος]

Parents love their children more than anything else in the world. Parental love involves a stronger dependence than any other kind. In the mind of the parent, the child is idealized, deified. When reality contradicts this perception, they usually choose to ignore it, hoping that something more simple, transient, innocent is going on. Rationalization refers to cases of parents who operate more practically and rationally than emotionally and impulsively. She thought that if she didn't hand over her child before he commit something serius, she would lose him forever. Like other parents they would lose their own children. Even she would lose her life (as he had clearly threatened her before). He made the right decision saving everyone's lives.

[@kimberlykelly8651]

I almost choked on my cupcake when you said, "this skinny little rodent...". Thank you for the comic relief while going through this case. This is horrible.

[@annaalquitela1731]

Now I want a cupcake lol😂😂😂

[@artisthusnatalal3099]

Cupcakes are unhealthy 😖

[@shanemerrill8925]

So is sitting around on youtube, yet here you are 🤣

[@mrkennedy4394]

​@@artisthusnatalal3099 calm down. So is going outside and breathing in most countries. Let the damn user eat a cup cake if they want!

[@artisthusnatalal3099]

@@mrkennedy4394 Breathing exercises are healthy

[@Colin-m5e]

Shout out to his mom to realise her son she loved posed a major threat to others. Must've torn her up inside.

[@YouBuggingOut]

She’s the reason he’s like that

[@jeanneann3545]

​@@YouBuggingOutah yes, she's solely to blame instead of the father than ran away. She's totally at fault for being a woman, she should just become a guy and be a father figure to him while working her ass off earning money. She should have birthed another girl so she can be a slave to him, a baby girl so he can fck and toy around like the slave he always dreamed for! He's a king, totally good looking, every woman should worship the ground he walk on!

[@beganitdidnt6535]

@@YouBuggingOut right that ngga didnt ask to be ugly and short lmao

[@gotekeeper9519]

@@YouBuggingOut source: I made it up

[@veronicajohnson9995]

@@YouBuggingOut…

[@wee-little-one]

I love how you provided some words of encouragement and hope for other incels who are struggling and feeling hopeless. What a beautiful human being you are! You would make a wonderful therapist with your insight, empathy, and soothing voice.

[@LuccaRPG]

Shout of to the mom for calling police. So many of these stories have parents turning a blind eye or even shielding their kids from consequences. It's so nice to see a parent actually be a parent.

[@marvynhaynes2327]

Loser all the way around

[@Kimberly-dt4ko]

Feeling like there is a threat in your home can be very motivating. Some of these mass killers start with their family.

[@ChaosHusky]

What else is new? That's what shitty parents do in between their delusions of grandeur that they're actually doing a great job.. It isn't easy, but it isn't supposed to be, you chose to breed now look after the f*ckers! 🤨

[@TheUnapologeticGeek]

That couldn’t have been an easy phone call for the mother to make. Major kudos to her. That decision probably saved lives, including her own.

[@hankvandenakker4271]

SHE SHOULD HAVE CALLED YEARS EARLIER. SHE ACTUALLY AIDED HIS PLANS BY BEING UNCONCERNED. PROVEN BY THE FACT THAT SHE NEVER TRIED TO GET HIM MENTAL HEALTHCARE.

[@joe94c]

​@hankvandenakker4271 is your caps lock broken? Stop being such a douche online

[@roboninjas]

@@hankvandenakker4271that’s a fair point, but we don’t know the full story. she could have acted sooner, yes! she knew about his writings and threats online. but she did eventually make a heart wrenching decision when he made a verbal threat on her life. thanks to this action, no matter what anyone thinks, she likely prevented the deaths of many innocent people

[@ShawnGerbert]

​@@hankvandenakker4271dude she was trailer trash lol. Give her a break.

[@patrickregan3302]

@@roboninjasWell said!!!!!!!

[@valarmorghulis5575]

To these people the problem is always the world, not them.

[@PuppetMasterdaath144]

Dude the world has a tons of problems, its literally brimming. .😁 Edit; I didn't miss the point and the guy below me is in a psychotic condition. You are self delusional due to extreme low self worth. Btw. you guys maybe do not realize this but these video's attract covert narcissists with big egos related to their superegos, its a condition that is heavily supported by this sick society. Because its hidden, and they want narcissistic dysfunctional psychos. And because you have a poor linguistic lexicon to accurately decipher what I said you will never understand how they brainwash people or what im saying, so basically dumb people are upvoted by other similarly stupid people. And it will never stop.

[@TealAstronaut]

​@@PuppetMasterdaath144 congratulations on completely missing the point

[@shoddyworkmanship4934]

Last I checked "these people" were a part of the world.

[@AlexanderJoneshttps]

Blame women

[@Etrius10]

The world is a problem, it's not up for debate. We live in a hell of our own creation.

[@auntielaura5]

What always gets me is that incels are not just angry that they can’t find a woman, they are angry that they can’t have a “Stacy” - the prettiest and most high-status women. An “ordinary”, loving, supportive woman is simply not good enough for them. 🙄 They are some of the shallowest people on the planet, all the while blaming the stacys for being too shallow to appreciate the incel’s own magnificence.

[@Stephaniescp]

Irony is lost on the deluded. 😊

[@ClickClack_Bam]

A big thing I've noticed is that they almost ALWAYS are highly delusional about all aspects of themselves. They'll be grossly overweight. Sloppy AF looking. Dumpy ass & greasy looking. They refuse to work on anything with making them better. Yet they'll act like they're God's greatest gift to mankind. I watched a video yesterday where the guy was 5'7 & 230lbs of BUSTED shit. He NEVER wore a shirt & thought he was beautiful. So the ENTIRE world besides him seen a 25 pound bag stuffed full of 50 pounds of shit & he himself was oblivious in a true narcissistic way.

[@DragonsOfSnow]

Exactly. I only started learning that incels were even a "thing" about a couple yrs ago and I actually felt bad for them at first. Then I realized basically all of them just want a fake IG model irl that is usually more unstable mentally than a regular woman. Plus the fact they think "being nice" automatically entitles them to girls like that. They are definitely shallow as hell and then get angry when the only women they want are just as shallow!

[@HankWilliams-kp3io]

You have never met a man in your life that has standards of women, nor do you know someone that’s met a man with standards nor can you locate men online with standards. So why generate random ideas in your head and state them as facts? I could just as easily comment “What gets to me about Canadians is the fact that they’re always graping Pandas. Every day billions of Pandas experience SA as a result of Canadians”. There is as much truth in that hypothetical comment as there is in yours

[@rachaelm3298]

Quite frankly, i consider myself lucky i am not a "stacy" if it means i can stay out of the sites and obsessions of an incel... conventional beauty is overrated anyway. We certainly are not losing out thats for sure, most of them are ugly lonely selfish losers anyway lol. I wouldnt be too upset about them not wanting the "average" woman.. they are abusive and vile by nature.

[@leannesalazar3162]

I listen to a lot of crime. The amount of warning signs that loved ones choose to ignore is ridiculous. It’s nice to have a breath of fresh air for a crime story. It’s awesome his mum saw the warning signs and spoke out against her son. Thanks Adrian!

[@Etrius10]

Wish she would have been a parent instead.

[@mikegillette3021]

​@@Etrius10the hell are u talking about

[@jeanneann3545]

​​@@Etrius10she is a parent and forever will be. She tried her hardest as a single parent, and instead of appreciating it he instead grow to hate women... Eventhough his mom is literally a woman and struggled alone to raise him. Pls tell me, why do u side with the loser? He is cringy, bad looking, achieve nothing his whole life, and probably smells bad. Out of everyone, you choose to side with a cringy weeb guy that thinks he deserve Emma Watson type of woman with no work whatsoever? Are you okay? The fact that you actually resonate with him is weird. To be a loser is one thing, to be a loser incel is another separate thing. Its not okay to be such a waste, dont be like him.

[@theophany4935]

It's not always so easy to do something about it.

[@Chungus581]

Ok but your sampling is biased because you watch a lot of true crime. It’s easy to see red flags if you know the guys is gonna go on a killing spree in the future

[@MiaD666]

His mother's action saved so many lives. She did the right thing by calling the cops on him.

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

She failed to raise him. She didnt save anyone

[@adamturner3797]

No she didn't

[@0n_Cloud_9]

@@adamturner3797Yes she did you psychopath. 💀

[@banjothefox9263]

Imagine how his mother must feel... Raising him alone, his father abandoned them and he STILL grows up hating women instead of men.

[@faizfuad8361]

or maybe.. just dont generalize hate people out of what happened to you

[@24get24give]

sad, sad, case what a world we live in eh?

[@banjothefox9263]

@@MB_Biggie_Cheese You mean Muslims and Mormons?

[@MB_Biggie_Cheese]

@@banjothefox9263 yeah they’re toxic but it goes for everyone

[@MyriamRichardsdotter]

Tech platforms encourage men to hate and reject women. They plan on selling tech based secks products to men, so it’s part of their profit scheme to encourage men to hate and reject us.

[@kettanistar]

He was clearly losing it when he threatened to kill his mother. No matter how mad you get, there are somethings you don't say or do.

[@thesaddestdude3575]

Ive done the same, but only because mine threatend me with boiling water and a steak knife.

[@DeathMetalThrasher]

​@thesaddestdude3575 Sorry you had to even go through that. I've gone through beef with my own family in the past. It sucks that it happens.

[@AT-jd9jd]

yet many ppl have, and they don't all turn out to be mass-murderers or deserve life in prison. I just think it's insane that some1 who never harmed any1 and appears to have turned his life around after his first stint in jail may be getting a life sentence.

[@ErenDenizMert]

​@@thesaddestdude3575Things thaz never happened

[@berrymint6384]

except your mother is a bad person Keep it in mind that giving birth does not give you rights to another living being

[@farbeyondfading8697]

The extreme incel ideology is so dumb. They seem to hate women for seemingly judging them on their looks, but they judge and categorize women based on their looks. Sex isn't everything fellas, get a hobby

[@abbym792]

they view women as objects, not individuals. They fail at life so they have to blame something, somebody. They feel entitled to things that people willingly give you if they want to, not as a reward for being a *nice guy* whatever that means. They are not willing to work on themselves or see why people distance themselves. They turn to an echo chamber of incels online and then snap. Elliot Rodger is a great example of this. He was a delusional, paranoid, grandious narcissist with no insight or empathy. Feeling entitled to sex and women (or men) is enough to higlight you have a big enough problem that is enough for you not to have a close, genuine and intimate relationship at all. Even if Elliot *got a gIrlFriEnd* meaning a pretty blonde object he could show off, she would resent him eventually and he would hate her for that and he would still be the looser he was.

[@maryeckel9682]

Exactly. They don't just want sex, they want sex with a "megababe" so they can brag about it.

[@Gh0stGaminginc]

Don't sexless nerds who collect model trains or whatever also get relentlessly mocked? Seems they can't win.

[@areuserious6172]

Whatever you say, sexhaver

[@rachaelm3298]

@@Gh0stGaminginc humans get mocked ect for anything, its not just dudes who like trains or whatever lol. Get over yourself, you arent the onll ones with problems or people who think you are weird for no reason..

[@mmps18]

That must've been so difficult for that mother. I'm so glad she reported him.

[@VivianRodriguez37]

"Anxiety has a funny way of making us look inward..." Wise words my friend. x

[@thesaddestdude3575]

Words that also don't apply to this situation. In case of incels most of it comes from the outside.

[@Junevalentino]

Hi Vivian 👋 hope all is well with you.

[@TaylorWilmes]

If you have anxiety you do nothing, but look inwards lol. It’s not that deep vei

[@journeymanX]

The mom saved countless of lives,good for her

[@JaleMusiq]

“Let me spend all my youth on the internet; never really interacting with people in person and get mad that I’m terrible at socially interacting with women, but also blame it on women”. 🤦🏽‍♀️ these men are some type of delusional.

[@CloudCollapse]

Damn your profile kinda looks like Elliot Rodger

[@grunge8404]

@@CloudCollapsedamn you sound kinda tilted

[@CloudCollapse]

@@grunge8404 how? Was just pointing it out

[@IconoclastX]

Yeah, their delusional, that's a great analysis buddy. So what's the solution; just calling these people crazy even when we exhibit the same habits? Or maybe we can change our society to be more communally oriented; so families that allow their kids to abuse devices are rare. Maybe we can have stay at home moms that raise their kids? Maybe we can encourage people to prioritize others, especially their kids, instead of divorcing and always selfishly doing what's best for them? But nah, let's just keep calling these people 'crazy' and 'psycopaths' and 'irreedeemable' and 'born evil'. That should fix the problem and make us feel self righteous and bubbly inside. It's also hillarious, someone who watches murder cases for entertainment; criticizing someone for finding joy in dark subject matters. None of this is to say that he sholdn't be punished by the way; I just think it's unproductive to go about it the way we are

[@alithedon4996]

He's right your profile almost looks like the guy lol. I had to do a double take too.

[@lynsey4224]

If only these people had a little self awareness this could all be avoided. But no, it's never them who has a problem, its everyone else.

[@scifirealism5943]

I know I'm the problem.

[@E_l_l_i_e]

There are millions of single people out there, and many of them are living happy and productive lives. These murderers did not become sociopaths because they're single; they're single because they're sociopaths.

[@rosered6876]

They're entitled. They feel like everyone should cater to them.

[@nealrigga6969]

@@rosered6876 and misogynistic too. They think women are lifeless objects

[@BusinessSkrub]

​@@nealrigga6969and many of those women think all men are hateful, violent beasts. This is a chicken or egg situation, and regardless of the answer, nobody on either side is going to be happy. We should do better and do more as a society to stamp these ideas out where they start, but instead we allow hate of (especially white) men to flourish on twitter and tik tok and other social media, it infects mainstream media, sports, etc, and now there are young men growing up being told by nearly everyone around then that they are violent and everyone hates them. Is it truly any wonder that some of them take it very seriously?

[@heyspookyboogie644]

Exactly. And they’re the only ones who can’t see that.

[@heyspookyboogie644]

@@nealrigga6969that’s not even a deal breaker for some women. Some are into that sort of thing. It’s the extreme narcissism to the point nobody can satisfy them cause they’re not worshiped enough and babied. Even incels could get a girl if they actually put any real effort in. They just expect girls to land in their lap and think they’re kings.

[@chelseagirl278]

So many parents shield their children and think they can never do any wrong. So grateful to his mum who saved so many lives! Thank you 🙏

[@carolinemaybe]

“Threatening a civilian population” only gets you 18 months?!?!?! That’s ridiculous.

[@oceanmike8516]

To be fair the threat was made 3 years ago and he changed his life 18 months later and dumped those plans and got charge 8-10 months ago.

[@blakethebadger1]

It's stupid it carries anything. Do you realize the Government themselves threaten entire countries of people for no other reason than " they should live like us" or "gas prices". Rules for the not for me.

[@twistedyogert]

​@@oceanmike8516 He was planning a major terrorist attack. That should get you at least 10 years.

[@Nekulturny]

He unfortunately was smarter than 99% of criminals, he shut his mouth and lawyered up. Thats why. If he was like most people they'd smoke him for a few hours in an interrogation room and give the DA plenty to hang em. Thats more what happened here I think than COVID.

[@ShawnGerbert]

You dont get it. Im not even finished the video, but I know that once you go through the prison system you're carefully watched for the rest of your life and if he goes back to that behaviour THEN the massive sentences come....right?

[@plywoodcarjohnson5412]

The word incel means "can't get laid". I find it weird how it has become apropriate to point that out. But what do I know? Feels like a whole herd of people are jumping up and down bcoz they found a weak group they can bully with a derogatory term. And get away with it.

[@jamieharris2633]

I graduated high school in 1994. I was a shy, quiet fat girl who had really bad skin and an underbite that had to be surgically corrected so I was bullied a lot in school and obviously was not popular with boys but I just dealt with it and moved on. I can't figure out of we had thicker skin back then or just dealt with rejection/disappointment better. I didn't want to kill anybody back then that's just the way it was.

[@ClickClack_Bam]

Girls still have it far easier in that dept. Men have testosterone which controls your sex drive & mood etc. A guy who is too whatever to grab a girl to be with can really turn that frustration into violence if they can't get past their own insecurities.

[@annewagner196]

I think the entitlement of the population overall has gotten much worse. Some folks get so pissy when everything doesn't go their way. Maybe giving trophies to everyone was a bad idea. I don't know - just spitballin'

[@HankWilliams-kp3io]

There wound have been hundreds, maybe thousands of guys that were fighting for your attention but you weren’t interested because they were regular guys and not NFL players

[@natalier7204]

Women blame themselves rather than others.

[@HankWilliams-kp3io]

“I got 15 kids and nobody is being held accountable! Somebody has gotta pay for all my children” - Woman, interviewed on national television

[@iainbanks7415]

As a mother I have learnt that you need to keep an eye on teenagers more than toddlers as that is the time that major changes are going on in their body and their brain (sometimes mental health begins to set in) and their friends and social media have more influence on them than you do as their parents do. So keep your teenagers close and begin healthy conversations with from the start of their life (so they will tell you things that are going on with them). Stay Safe.

[@crestfire8008]

My mom always said it's harder to raise boys than girls. Boys become easily rowdy and breaks rules more often

[@freddoesvox9033]

As lonely as I am right now, I am so happy I haven’t once considered joining the utterly deplorable incel movement.

[@Nyla_]

I'm glad too. Hope everything will be well for you. All the best!

[@freddoesvox9033]

@@Nyla_ thank you :)

[@freddoesvox9033]

@@pawtile9434 I hope we both end up with someone soon :)

[@MK1vids]

Psst hi, have you tried finding friends on the apps like bumble n whatnot o:

[@freddoesvox9033]

@@MK1vids yup, its never successful and just downright demoralising

[@kimberlyhood4095]

What's probably the most bizarre thing about the incels is they tend to target the same sorority house. Elliott Rogers went after the Alpha Phi and so did Brian Kohlberger. At least three of the girls living in that house was pledged to Alpha Phi and two of them were killed. Katherine Cooper and Verionika Weiss was shot outside of the Alpha Phi sorority house even though they were with a different sorority. It was believed that ER thought they were actually with the AP. They got offended that the girls were ignoring them and should date them. These women were the smartest and most beautiful of the sorority sisters and incels think they're 10's and should date them. They probably wouldn't be rejected if they went for just normal girls but it's their narcissism that makes them think they deserve these women.

[@iLilith11]

You're so right! It's the delusion, the narcissism and therefore the entitlement 😑

[@ActiveAussie2024]

ER was actually a good looking dude. I used to work in the fashion/model industry in the 90 s, I think I have a good idea. He was an arrogant and spoilt entitled brat, but he had the looks, was well dressed and had style. Yes, ER did target that sorority because it had the "hottest girls". He was obsessed with "hot blonde girls". Maybe some non hot blondes were attracted to him but he didn't pick up on it. Luckily the door was locked at that sorority. He would have cleaned that place out if if wasn't. Remember also, a lot of average and below average women only want the top 5 percent of men. I was rejected many times when I was younger myself because I "didn't earn enough". Maybe men and women just need to stop judging each other so much. Hypergamy and entitlement is out of control.

[@aetank_yyteawu3436]

Looks get you to the door, personality is what allows you to go in. ER had a maybe a good facial structure, but also had a weak build. He also had no confidence and was desperate; women will pick up on that all day. Women will go for more attractive guys, but also average guys have no game. I’ve always been the guy to get chased by women a thanks to my mother’s looks, yet it was my friend with average looks who was a very good womanizer. He had the words and was never afraid to shoot his shot. Dude was average but had a great personality and confidence as if he had nothing to lose. So yes average guys can get women but let’s be honest; most don’t try and if they do they have no clue on how to speak to women. Not to mention that the only pick up line they have is “I just wanted to let you know that you’re beautiful”. Side note, if you were “overlooked” by average women because you didn’t make enough; sorry to say it but that is probably all you had to actually offer. No disrespect. ​​⁠@@ActiveAussie2024

[@bonjouritsready]

@@ActiveAussie2024none of this happened. That 5% crap is completely made up. Get a grip.

[@adamwoolf]

“Anxiety has a funny way of making us look inward” this is a such an important statement, more people need to hear and recognise this. Thank you for such a brilliant episode.

[@Underwvter]

I’m about 30 minutes from Hillsboro and remember this so clearly. My cousin was going to OSU at the time he was plotting this too. I’m so glad he was stopped before anyone was hurt; I don’t even want to imagine what could’ve potentially happened to her, or other women. But on a lighter note, she just graduated this past may with a doctorate of pharmacy!

[@scifirealism5943]

Sad.

[@thesaddestdude3575]

Im happy to hear she was successful!

[@Imhereforfun-jz2lu]

You don't have a cousin. That's an fent dealer.

[@anderson-gb8rp]

How's chad?

[@TaylorWilmes]

After prison, he’ll no longer be a virgin lol.

[@KarenSmith-pc8ji]

It had to be very difficult for his mother to make that call but I admire her for doing so… she is truly a hero. Additionally, it is admirable that in your summary, you made credible and helpful suggestions for anyone struggling with issues along these lines. One can only hope that someone who needs to hear that, will take your sound advice. Thanks for all you do. Have a great week.

[@SoaringFox16]

It’s honestly sickening that Elliot Rodger has influenced other incel’s to become what he was.

[@Lex60]

Especially because he was so freaking cringy.

[@morganjane111]

100% agree. That little man child acted like a spoiled rotten little child throwing a temper tantrum bc he couldn’t get any 🐈.

[@Le_Dislike_Button]

When society and every 'respectable' institution treats the average young man like trash for the sake of politics, what do you expect? even Ray Charles could have seen that coming.

[@Phoenixrising1925]

⁠@@Le_Dislike_Buttonhoho I “see” where you went. 🤣 hahaha 🤣 very much agree

[@joshingram071]

Elliot Rodgers is a prime example of someone w 0 self love or confidence. He wanted others to accept & love him. But didn't take the time to love hisself.

[@BoxOKittens]

His mother definitely is a hero. She faced great pain, but in doing so she saved many parents from an even worse pain.

[@tamiw87]

I might be the only one that feels this way but I definitely don’t think he should get life in prison

[@childofcascadia]

@tamiw87 I dont think so either. Life in prison should be reserved for people who actually attempt or do go through with it (even if they are stopped through no action of their own) He deserves something for showing more than just passing intent, but not life. I also think mandatory rehabilitative counseling should be required.

[@dr.zombiex]

Thank God for his mother. Her swift actions saved lives. And, she did it on her own son, which takes balls. Good for her. Pin a medal on her for real.

[@spookarinox0]

You're incredible for leaving the bit of advice for anyone that is depressed and letting their minds wander around toxic places. Thanks, mate ;0; You're looking at the problem and not just the symptoms.

[@Esquinawatusi]

I thought that was very encouraging too. Love you Adrian!

[@rachaelm3298]

Still many will be stuck in their own twisted and selfish and entitaled mentality and wont listen unfortunately.. and he ought to mention been single and evem without a sex life isnt the end of the world or their lives either.. that singleness or no sex isnt a puishment or even a bad thing.😊

[@bEverCurious]

He pleaded guilty to a lesser charge, did his time and when he came out really started to turn his life around. With the right support and encouragement he could have moved on from this phase of his life and become a productive member of society. The human brain doesn't fully mature until our 20s and the male brain, later 20's. This is one of those rare cases where I think the FBI going after him was wrong.

[@srahhh]

Bless you for your message at the end, these young men are so lost inside their echo chamber & literally all we can do is keep trying to give them reality checks and hoping they listen and wake themselves up. They are feeding themselves into a self-fulfilling prophecy grinder

[@scifirealism5943]

I'm not an incel anymore. I'm still poor and a virgin. I need to work harder and grow up.

[@srahhh]

@@scifirealism5943 I mean this with 100% sincerity, the most attractive men are the ones who are secure in themselves. I know that's a lot easier said than done, but keep doing your work inwardly on improving yourself and becoming a person YOU like. And then I truly swear to god, other people will like you too. No matter what you look like, or your job situation, or whatever. A good sense of humor helps a lot too. Self-awareness is the first and hugest step and you've already done it; the incel community doesn't realize that they are just compounding the one thing that DOES make them unattractive as partners-- insecurity. Don't waste time and emotional energy on people who don't make you happy. Don't look for your self-worth in others. You gotta get it from within so the source will always be rock solid. You are worth spending your time on. You are a human who was put on this earth the same as everyone else and it's your right to be here, even if you think you're doing a bad job. Exist stubbornly, and be as vibrant a human as you can

[@thesaddestdude3575]

For me it was the other way around, i kept stepping out into the world and seeing blackpill everywhere, i tried so hard to not agree with the incels and get different perspectives on life and women but every single interaction ive ever had with them proves incel ideas true. You people always talk about growing as a person and becoming useful to society and that will lead us to be loved but it doesn't at all, its just so we can become babysitters for the children of the men you actually want. And i don't want to work on myself so that i MIGHT if im extremely "lucky" and have the "privilege" get to be someones life's disappointment because i sure as hell wasn't what they anted when they were younger.

[@angelinacamacho8575]

They don't want a reality check they want reality to bend to their will like they live in an episode of Futurama or some shit.

[@lennard5393]

I wonder why they reject the feminity in themselves that's the real question to me

[@fireflyrn]

Everyone can't be popular. I had many friends but wasn't in the most popular groups. I certainly didn't blame other people. These people are narcissists and feel they are entitled

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

You enjoy being a NPC?

[@JeanPaulBeaubier]

I don't have many friends, never have, but I also don't blame other people because I don't derive my self-esteem from the number of people around me. These people have a sky high sense of self-worth and hellishly low self-esteem!

[@wolfman210]

These guys also demand supermodels while not exactly being prizes themselves.

[@flossa1960]

@@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203what is an npc please get out of your room and speak to real people! it will do you good in the long run. anxiety can make you feel like you are alone but like adrian said you need to pick up a hobby and sooner rather than later you will feel so much better and happier!!

[@jr7845]

Also there evil.

[@spaltmass]

red pill was never about rage for me. when i was in my early 20s i profited from red pill literature to give my world view much needed form. i grew up without a father figure, so the red pill stuff helped, and it never sparked something like hate against anybody in me. the opposite is the case: i think it was like "if you dont have success (women, work, education or whatever), work on yourself and be patient." the problem with these things is that angry psychopaths and narcissists flock to things like red pill becasue forums pool their similar views and become echo chambers. these losers dont represent what the red pill stood for for me.

[@numero480]

Tres’s poor mother!!!!!! What a horrible decision to have to make. I think she was fighting for his life. Even tho Tres never killed anyone he still needs mental health care and life skills counselling. 20 years in prison is a little steep.

[@ContactsNfilters]

They don't really teach or provide that stuff in prison. I mean they might even have a class called life skills, but it's all bs as is any possible counseling, but they usually have lots of books with that kind of information so hopefully he takes some of that time to read them. I doubt he'll do the full 20 years.

[@mfburns7909]

He won't do the full 20. I've known a person that put a gun in someone's mouth and pulled the trigger get paroled after 19 years

[@_Sadderall]

Nah he deserves to be put away. Hes obviously dangerous and one fatal mistake can cost innocent lives.

[@contra1124]

@@_Sadderall He is, but he is also very young and has never actually hurt anyone. Spending that amount of time in prison certainly won't make him any less dangerous and won't help him at all.

[@shoddyworkmanship4934]

Why deal with a problem when we can just throw it in a cell and ignore it until the next attack. Which on average should be within another week, right?

[@vickyoli]

Kuddos to the mom. I imagine it is hard to accuse your child even when you have the proof in front of your eyes. You did what a good mother and person should do.

[@Etrius10]

A good mother wouldn't raise someone like him.

[@NA-en7kz]

I struggle with these kind of scenarios. He hasn't done anything, but he has demonstrated he could do something. That's such a scary line. Props to a caring Mom.

[@preacherman85379]

A very slippery slope indeed. How can it be a hate crime when a crime hasn’t been committed?

[@logankrastel9609]

yes he has done something. he made a plan to kill people. making a credible plan to kill someone is illegal.

[@lemmyhead8578]

No struggle at all. He threatened to kill people and planned it. There, I took away your struggles, and you can think clearly now.

[@lemmyhead8578]

​@preacherman85379 No, no, no. His intent was clear. You really want to wait before he carries out his attack before you call it a hate crime? Un-fucking-beleivable! No, arrest his ass, charge him, convict him, lock him up. He is a direct threat to society. Stop trying justify this shit.

[@NA-en7kz]

@@lemmyhead8578 Best go turn yourself in for thought crimes then.

[@molar-td4vg]

its so scary that you can do everything to raise a child right, and if they watch the wrong streamer or browse the wrong forums it can fuck them up for life.

[@nikkianderson5076]

Much ❤️ love to his mother. She saved many lives.

[@wil.d_sage]

Also, shout out to the mom for noticing the signs and doing something instead of ignoring it because its her son

[@JustAGirlWhoLovesCats]

Coffeehouse Crime, what a great way to start the workweek!😁 Thanks, Adrian!

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thanks! Have a good one!

[@rokko1020]

hello. incel here. no, we are not all like this. matter of fact, the majority of us isnt. yes, we are frustrated with our lives, we wish things would be different but most of us realize it is what it is and for most of us,its not gonna change. for different reasons. that doesnt mean we hate women or blame them, like elliot rogers did or this gentleman here. it saddens me that the average mainstream pleb thinks that incel equals elliot rodgers. personally,i never understood elliot myself. i know my faults are my own and i have never blamed or hurt anyone nor do i have the desire to do so. yes i am jealous that so many people have better lives than me and im am past my prime agewise..that means many of mistakes i have no chance to correct any more.i will die alone. and i always was,and am,scared of it. if a fellow incel reads this...dont do stupid shit. you will not change anything. all you achieve is people talking bad about us. dont you think we suffer enough already? think before you act

[@thecrispymaster]

"Average mainstream pleb" - and there it is. The victim mentality and choice to act like you have no agency in bettering your life, mixed in with a smug sense of superiority. Incels really are some of the most smackable bunch of people you'll ever meet.

[@Mya_Sarah_Bellum]

@rokko1020 Are you open to receiving advice from a 52-year-old woman?

[@extofer]

I can’t imagine the torment that mother felt inside having to do the right thing. But we’re all glad she did!

[@HankWilliams-kp3io]

Depends on whether she could monetise the situation or not.

[@firstlast8258]

Speak for yourself 🤓 🖕

[@gattilucia]

The mother was really admirable and brave. Way to often we see parents that cover the disgusting actions of their youngsters. I would love to hear more cases like this.

[@randallmilton]

UPDATE: March 1, 2024, Tres was sentenced to 80 months in prison but with credit for time served, he will be out in under 4 years……

[@B59h]

I don't understand why these people struggling always resort to violence. Why not just enjoy life in other ways. Women aren't everything, at all. If women don't like you, then just say screw it and ignore them rather than resorting to violence.

[@chasehedges6775]

👍👍EXACTLY!

[@chasehedges6775]

Well said. 👍.

[@B59h]

@@ruslancelins1851 Yeah and there's a LOT more to life than just women. You have all the time in the world to do anything you want without one. Like travel the world, indulge in hobbies, basically whatever you want, the world is your oyster. So I say enough of all this violence, have fun in life instead.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@B59h THIS👍👍

[@ArtificalHistoryI]

Not rlly Life is about getting women If u can’t get women it means ur worthless to society and women. The winners are the chads who get all the women

[@SugarandSarcasm]

Remember folks: no one is entitled to a partner or sex. Respect is hard-earned but worth it, which is a great foundation to any relationship.

[@Lowdermoomoo]

The reason why I love my husband so much is because we were friends for 3 years, I helped him get engaged to his ex-fiancé everyone is like “oh god you were THAT girl that stole someone’s man?!” And I always laugh because no, I wasn’t I have no respect for cheating men, she cheated on him on the bachelorette cruise he bought her with the Maid of honor’s boyfriend and they had been broken up for years before him and I started dating! we were both single when we finally started dating. I loved that he was so respectful to me when we were friends, never crossed any lines, was never inappropriate, never made me feel uncomfortable. I can trust him around other women, and he earned my respect and trust. This is how you get a forever partner.

[@andreanderson3845]

Single mothers aren't entitled to my hard earned money to take care of their bastard spawn either.

[@billm7035]

Men and women have different needs. In general Men need respect, loyalty and intimacy to feel good about their relationship. Women need respect, loyalty and security via resources and personal safety. Both partners should understand each others needs, and if they are happy with the relationship, they should do their best to meet their partners needs. Men need to stop apologizing for being men.

[@lesshuman00]

"Hard-earned" lol no. You just have to be attractive and everything just gets handed to you

[@wolfzmusic9706]

Idk, I think most people are entitled to love. Going your entire life without love sounds sad. Of course you need to respect people first to get that love usually.

[@situpeutparlemoi]

Trey needs court mandated (and paid for if necessary) psychiatry and a psychological hold until he's judged cured of his incel-level entitlement. If he refuses or shows no improvement, institutionalize him. He's clearly a danger to society if left untreated. Here's hoping your "how to stop being an incel" section reaches and helps at least one of those sad men. They all need therapy.

[@IconoclastX]

how is he a danger to society if he stopped planning what he was doing for the months he was released. To me, I'd give him ten or so years; but to jail him for life is pretty absurd. And their should be no category of "hate crime"; any murder is equally as bad as another murder; just because the killer does it because he hates someone's skin color is completely irrelevant. He also didn't committ a crime and it's dubious to equate planning a crime with attempting a crime. He didn't make an attempt; he just planned it; which should still be illegal and carry a harsh punishment; but it's not the same. It would be pretty unjust to lock up this dude for life; is all I'm saying. Throw him in jail and make a productive man out of him. That's what he needed; a dad and I can empathize with that.

[@asmokeus]

​@@IconoclastXthat's a lot of words for "i don't understand where genocide begins"

[@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307]

can you stop being smug and politely explain to him?

[@YouBuggingOut]

@@IconoclastXBro go get laid

[@DeviantDespot]

People have way way too much faith in psychiatry.

[@kimberlylaughner5067]

Hats off to Mom! I cannot even fathom the gut wrenching decision she was faced with.. God Bless you Mom 🙏🏻

[@drew_ytp]

Love the positive and motivational note at the end ! I have quite a bit of frustration built up myself because of the abuse my mother put me through and the toxic relationships I've had with women in the past. Even with all of this, I don't want to turn to this path of hatred. All people shouldn't have to pay for a few treating you like s**t. I'd rather die alone then be remembered for killing a bunch of women like a bitter and overdramatic d**k. Anyway, thanks for the video. Your calm tone always makes your content pleasant to watch (despite the intensity of the subject) ❤️

[@tarakelly8573]

Fantastic parenting representation from this mother! She is a true hero! Also a shout out to authorities for taking this seriously and making an example of this young man's behavior. This is rare indeed and has most likely saved people's lives.

[@nataliasophia32]

This! That was a well executed job. It's crazy to think how many crimes could be prevented if the authorities took their jobs seriously. Most content on this page somehow involves the police not doing their due diligence. Although the perpetrator is always guilty of their ultimate decisions, the police force exists and is funded by taxpayers specifically because we are aware that there are individuals who cannot be trusted. Police shouldn't be focused on catching criminals and locking them up, they should be preventing crimes from happening in the first place.

[@TheUnapologeticGeek]

Your final thoughts were very wise and well-delivered. Kudos for trying to put a positive message out there for those who are hurting.

[@scifirealism5943]

I'm changing my life.

[@Elegant_Sausage]

I've talked to a number of young men who got sucked into the incel way of seeing things that are now out of it. There is hope. They can see the way out sometimes. Its almost always from someone helping them see the flaws in their thinking, and its nearly always another male that helps them see. That's just going off from the ones I've talked to about it, a few dozen or so. Please guys, call out the other men in your lives that are stuck in the incel lifestyle. You really could be saving more than just his life.

[@tdfmtig]

A lot of incels are men on the autism spectrum too not just a lifestyle

[@ferox965]

When they grow up, they leave that crap behind.

[@Eventual-Visitor]

Incel is a lifestyle? I thought it was the inability to have a lifestyle, specifically the one they wanted.

[@zaksharman]

@@tdfmtig Very judgemental of everyone on the autism spectrum dude

[@cavemanmeat8321]

Incel lifestyle? So not getting laid is a lifestyle?

[@TheKittyClink]

Hey coffeehouse Crime you're awesome!, Im former US army, and a friend of mine was a Drill Instructor who had this incel guy in his platoon during training. he would rat out his friends, and bacsially make enimes of everyone. he was one of the people whi signed the papers to have him discharged for "failure to intagrate" also some of his platoon mates wanted to beat him they were so annoyed with his non-sense.

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thank you!

[@Gh0stGaminginc]

Irrelevant.

[@TheKittyClink]

@@Gh0stGaminginc kinda like you. 👍

[@Sammedi1]

I don’t know how I feel about this, planning to do something isn’t the same as doing it otherwise I’d look like Arnold Schwarzenegger by now.

[@annbegley8497]

Bless 🙏 his mother for stepping up and stepping in when she did. As a parent I'm sure that was a very hard thing to do. She's definitely a hero for saving who knows how many lives.

[@tobi-nl6vr]

I feel like once you write a manifesto and articulate the way he did, there is no chance in hell that he'll ever get to date a woman

[@anons000]

Look up all the nutbag women that become infatuated with serial killer men. Unfortunately now that this guy is infamous, there are going to be some insane women that would likely date him.

[@IconoclastX]

I like how most men commenting about how this guy is irredeemable have watched collectively billions of hours of internet corn that is extremely degrading to women. Not saying he shouldn't be punished; but if we're going for a 'who has the lowest view of women' contest; nobody is coming out on top

[@YouBuggingOut]

@@IconoclastXBro I watch porn but I still know what to say when I see one in real life😂😂

[@cassie1790]

@@IconoclastX you really don’t know the difference between prn and murder? And women watch it too. While prn can certainly negatively affect society, it’s not writing a manifesto, dude.

[@KenJ-61]

He will most likely be some big dudes girlfriend once he gets to prison.

[@mealsome1571]

It never ceases to amaze, I haven't been in a relationship for a long time, I would never dream of being this crazy or resentful.

[@johnmcquade329]

i haven't been in a relationship since 2011 but i know i just gotta go out somewhere and i'll meet someone as ive got a gd sense of humour incels are ridiculous they make us nerdy fellas look bad, if they can't get what they call a "stacey" they should try looking a normal girl as i believe i'd rather have a becky than a stacey a beckys are nicer people

[@mealsome1571]

@@johnmcquade329 I would rather have someone that meets the 4 requirements. soft stable easy on the eyes fun to be around

[@scifirealism5943]

I sit at home. I literally do not socialize.

[@thesaddestdude3575]

@@johnmcquade329 Most men don't 80% of men are rated an unattractive by women, it doesn't matter if you identify as an incel or not, i can tell you that if you see yourself as "nerdy" the women in your life already look at you with disgust.

[@johnmcquade329]

@@thesaddestdude3575 thats nonsense man, i've actually had gfs and i'm into anime, japenese culture jav adult content and metal music and pro wrestling and gaming . dude your spreading dangerous lies about woman, not all woman are the same, if i wanted to, i could head out to a night club and pick up a nice woman, problem with you is, you are looking shallow model types that look like p-stars, 80% of men don't stand a chance with those types of woman, but most men nerdy or not not stand an equal chance with the every day run of the mill woman, its where your lookings the problem

[@debijacobson8822]

We (in the US, anyway) are so quick to blame parents. His mom should be publicly recognized as a hero.

[@thesaddestdude3575]

She deserves an award.

[@bluntart6664]

I saw a video of a person who studies cults being asked why their wasnt many cults these days. She straght up said their are loads of cults their just online in their own echo chambers.

[@Taranofsky]

Didn't expect this to cause me such consternation…on the one hand, this kid was clearly trouble waiting to happen. On the other hand, apparently you can be sentenced to up to life in prison if they can call what somebody is planning a 'hate crime.' Don't get me wrong, that's what he was planning on doing, but those are some REAAAALLLLLLYY vague terms they're using there 😬

[@weezieyo]

Yes. I have serious reservations about punishing someone for their thoughts, and I know I’m not the only one who is concerned about it. (And no, I’m not a right-winger. Quite far left, actually.)

[@alinam5092]

​@@weezieyo They are not punishing him for his thoughts, but for the plan and preparations he made for an armed attack that was a few months away from taking place (the comments on forums, Google searches, his journal/manifest, the weapons and ammunition bought, the fact that he spied on the university he wanted to attack in order to prepare his attack, these are not "thoughts", these are actions). Would you say the same about a terrorist group caught before an attack, "why punish them, they didn't do anything?"?

[@christopher9152]

Murder is heinous regardless of motive. The concept of "hate crimes" is both absurd and dangerous to our civil liberties.

[@mjanny6330]

@alinam5092 yes, people complain about terrorism investigations all the time.

[@alinam5092]

@@christopher9152 Hate crimes are investigated by the FBI, because they are not only an attack on a victim, they are meant to threathen and intimidate an entire community. So the criminal won't stop after they kill (let's say) a person they had a fight with, they want to kill/attack as many people as possible from a community/group, so they are much more dangerous than others.

[@zeejay-junejo]

Ok agree with your points but how is going to greece without "informing" your parents a red flag? You are an 18+ adult, you can make your own decisions, you are not supposed to tell anybody where you are going. Its completely up to you. Narcissist parents would expect something like that.

[@scifirealism5943]

I'm a virgin

[@shawnmatthews9594]

Glad you covered a case without a fatal ending. 🙂

[@alienladyyy]

When you described him as "a skinny little rodent" i literally choked on my lunch 🤣 what a messed up case.

[@judymurray191]

Yes. It is a bit shocking when he drops a nugget like that and also when he swears! It seems so out of character somehow.

[@otterlyfresh2886]

I prefer the way Adrian typically he does his videos without the vulgarity.

[@alienladyyy]

I think it's absolutely justified and because he doesn't do it very often it hits so much harder.

[@otterlyfresh2886]

@@alienladyyy this guy got caught before he even did the crime. Seems odd that he has more vitriol here than for some of the real monsters he’s covered previously.

[@ElijahAlcantara]

Neutrality on the video is better imo, this slip up tells us Adrian may have been bullying people who he thinks is beneath him and this type of behavior is also what fuels similarly disgusting and violent events.

[@Anotherprickwithanopinion]

The shade you dish out so casually while telling the story always tickles me 😂👌

[@nadiradutt8470]

I LOVE HIS SARCASTICISM AS WELL 😂

[@jeanneann3545]

Adrian is polite even when talking about murderers, you can definitely tell when he's disgusted with a murderer. 😂

[@lindahamilton3569]

I can only imagine the lives that could have or would be saved if more people had been like this mom, called the cops just as soon as they saw 1 to many RED FLAG'S! Sadly though way to many of us think if I love them a little more they will change, and we all KNOW THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN!?!?!