The Killer Incel Rejected by 30 Million Women | The Case of George Sodini

True Crime: We look at the story of George Sodini, and the online diary and videos he left behind in the aftermath of a terrible tragedy in Collier Township, Pennsylvania.
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00:00 Intro
01:49 Pennsylvania
02:37 George Sodini
04:07 Becoming an incel... (and tour)
09:05 Influence (and vlog)
12:16 George Sodini's online diary...
22:55 August 4th, 2009
25:01 Remembering Heidi, Elizabeth and Jody
27:12 Aftermath..
29:00 Outro
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[@CoffeehouseCrime]

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[@FrailSerenity]

Hope you feel better soon (or are feeling better, depending on when this was filmed)! Thanks for everything you do, and all the amazing content!

[@wendymarie7151]

Adrian, I absolutely love your channel. The crimes you describe are intense and bone chilling. I always look forward to a new crime you post. It's amazing how cruel and scary people can actually be. I hope you'll feel better soon. My best to you and little Nero. Cheers.

[@Bunbur]

Will Nero have a special coffee blend? He can have a blonde roast

[@tammyandkiki]

I hope you feel better! Kitty cuddles always help 🐱

[@davidsauriol8784]

Adrian, if you see this, I wanted to commend you on your channel and videos. One thing I find you do very well is not portraying these horrific incidences as being acted out by someone who is inherently "evil" but rather showing the highly complex interplay of mental health, societal expectations, and their humanity as reflected through deluded perspectives people like George succumb to. As a father, you're Ethan Crumbley video impacted me. It is the same with George; he could have been helped if somebody had intervened and supported them.

[@greendiamondglow]

He's not bad looking. The fact that he couldn't find someone to settle down with says SO much about his personality

[@sonquatsch8585]

he was actually hot. but a dick.

[@scarlettapplejaxsaj1767]

Exactly what I was thinking!

[@J.C...]

Yep. Lol. I mean I only stopped dating due to depression after my daughter was killed. All it would take is a little effort and I don't doubt I'd be dating again. Depression is a mf though. And I'm not even a "great" looking dude. 🤷🤣

[@craigcombes]

I guarantee if you spent a night with this man you'd never want to spend another night with him.. He creeps me the fk out. Like he could snap and change into someone else in a moment.

[@sonquatsch8585]

@@J.C... sorry 4 yer los

[@user-ee6st4ve8g]

What always perplexes me about incels is that they try to use their possessions (home, car, clothing, etc) as a reason why women should be attracted to them…and then complain that women are shallow and materialistic.

[@DeadpoolX9]

exactly, you fish with gold you're gonna get someone looking for gold. I think a lot of these people (at best) are socially maladjusted and carrying very deep wounds from childhood. That's fine I think. That's relatively normal. What is NOT normal or what is actively harmful I think, is all these courses and programs sold to these people that promise solutions but don't actually give productive/constructive/sustainable solutions but just keep them on the hook so they can get more money out of them without solving the underlying issue until eventually it just bursts. "dominate don't socialize' 'steamroll don't read the room' 'see disrespect everywhere' you see this rhetoric in a lot of male self improvement spaces because its inflammatory and it catches on whereas the truth is more nuanced and muddy and people don't like that. I'd probably put mine as 'it's always better to have no interaction than to have consistently bad interactions. People are individuals; monoliths are for statistics not for day to day life. If you find yourself in a death spiral do everything you can to pull yourself out of it before you drag others down with you. Never compromise but know your limits." or as I told my friends this week, 'it's better to have a homely girl with a good personality who you share a constructive relationship with than to have a beautiful corpse void of any personality you are actually interested in"

[@abellabarbie]

Lol. Literally! It is hard to feel any empathy for them, whatsoever.

[@marsukarhu9477]

Exactly, there is no logic whatsoever...Surprise!

[@skatingmagician]

there's absolutely nothing perplexing about it. They feel as if they're not weird or unattractive, so they're led to believe that the only thing that could make sense is material objects

[@marsukarhu9477]

@@skatingmagician Yes there is: women are materialistic, but they are not drawn in by all the material things. See a contradiction there?

[@zmk5374]

How could no 20 year old want him when his couches matched?!

[@kayjay135]

ikr? What stronger panty dropper than matching couches?

[@MoralesCorner]

The whole tour is pure comedy gold. The fact about this dude, you almost want to feel sympathy for him at times up until you learn what he did in his last day. Yeah, he was awkward and messed up, but at times he comes across as very naive and endearing. Obviously he ended up revealing as an utter POS, but that house tour will forever be one of the most unintentionally funniest things I've ever watched

[@Mercedes-ix6ne]

😂😂

[@jennalondonrichards]

😂😂😂

[@robroy488]

​@kayjay135 category 5 cabling maybe?

[@porterdavis1612]

I should not have laughed at “this is my big TV… a 32 inch!” nails the time period of this case perfectly.

[@meganwiley1990]

Omg I laughed at that way too hard myself. 😂 I was like did I just hear him correctly. It really did nail it too. His big screen and his matching couches and his dining set all cracked me up, but the TV had me rewinding to show my husband and brother 😅

[@priceandpride]

Or his matching sofa set!

[@dazzlingurbanite9268]

I chuckled when he said that. 😅

[@sebastianniittyvuopio5017]

New vacuum and washing machine too😊

[@BiffTech05]

It actually doesn't, he said his car is an '07, I had a 40" which was kinda average as far a "big screen" went then. Also, notice he's still got CRT monitors for his computers, LCDs had been popular for over a decade at that point (I had one in '93). Ugly tartan lounge suite? C'mon bro, where's the genuine real synthetic faux imitation Italian leather? Aaaaand the cherry on the virgin cake, the grandma drapes in the kitchen... Dude bro is just massively out of date and has zero style. I say this as a 50 yo man myself typing on a 10 year old computer and sitting on a lounge that is older than I am... I am also quite drunk.

[@mytruecrimelibrary]

He could've had a relationship if he didn't chase 20 year olds as a 48 year old. That's creepy and off-putting.

[@heather8518]

Riiiight!

[@noirnoironey]

Sadly thats how men especially now a days would prefer females to be young to the point they are teenagers. Easy to mold in their liking...

[@AlexanderJoneshttps]

Younger women don't have baggage well some of them but not all but hard to tell nowadays as most women are just whores in the west and have unrealistic expectations and just want 666 everything in the modern male today

[@Unicorgo]

It's grooming. And grooming is creepy af

[@noirnoironey]

theres alot of them they have podcast😬 even on reels I will see street interviews where the man is with a teenager very loud and proud while degrading mature woman labeling as expired goods

[@Stopthisrightnow560]

His problem wasn't being socially awkward or no one willing to give him a chance; it was the fact he had zero respect for women as basic human beings.

[@CuriousMuse2224]

A pattern amongst incels 🤦🏾‍♀️💀

[@tinagolden1032]

I think you're right.

[@bensteed750]

same but - I'm just honest enough to admit and not hateful enough to care enough to let it ruin my day/life. is what it is but I won't fkn lie to ya.

[@user-co7ph1rm9z]

Being indoors often or being a gamer can make men socially awkward. Women are like cats we can handle social isolation better. Men need plenty of outdoor time and social interaction throughout their lives to have a healthy mentality. Parents are usually the fault for keeping kids indoors and away from social situations. Social skills are more important for men.

[@ShadowMan64572]

What are you talking about? Attractive women in society do not looking for "socially awkward" in a man's profile for dating.

[@esonon5210]

What's sad about this is his lackluster dating life was totally preventable. He had money to hire a therapist and dating coach to help him work on his social awkwardness and how to talk to women but he chose to go down the incel route and keep his toxic behavior.

[@scifirealism5943]

I'm a virgin at 29. I'm poor

[@user-wu7hr8zd8c]

Doesn’t help that the “seminar” he was attending was basically telling him to treat women like crap if they are confident, and act like a total d-bag towards them “since that’s what they want”

[@esonon5210]

@@user-wu7hr8zd8c thats why i have no sympathy for him or any incels for that matter. he chose to engage in toxic misogynistic behavior instead of working on himself.

[@scifirealism5943]

​@@esonon5210I've changed

[@GenderLoin]

It wasn’t just that he was awkward though. He was a misogynist with unrealistic expectations. He was 50 years old and chasing 20 year olds because he lived in his online corn addicted delusion. No money or “looking good for his age” was going to roll back time for him. He was deluded.

[@S97526]

It doesn’t matter how many of these guys I learn about it still amazes me how they don’t realise their personality is the reason they can’t get anybody to sleep with them 🤦‍♀️

[@scifirealism5943]

I realize it

[@jon590]

It's not his fault! It's everyone else! They're the problem, not him! 😂

[@scifirealism5943]

@@jon590 ok

[@jon590]

@@scifirealism5943 👍🏻

[@junecleaver748]

@@scifirealism5943 I would say that was sarcasm!

[@ResitutaIgube]

This man had a better life that most of the human population but just couldn't see it .

[@tonygabashvili8357]

Not really. He was most likely autistic and incapable of forming bonds and relations with people as a result of said autism. There are things in the world money can't buy, he would never be able to buy normal human communication or emotions. He would always suffer from autism and the emptiness that comes from it

[@flannelpillowcase6475]

@@tonygabashvili8357 sooooooo what you're saying is that living with autism is worse than living in poverty? slowly dying from a lethal disease? living in a third world country that's always at war? okay lol. also, doesn't matter if you have autism, you can learn to be positive and appreciate life as life and people for who they are without becoming obsessed with having sex with young women or committing mass murder. i know you're only trying to garner sympathy for people who suffer from autism, but this particular comment isn't doing anything but being apologist to George Sodini, and by extension, anyone else who decides to blame and take out their own personal frustrations on everyone around them.

[@AnnaPxx]

Also good looking and able bodied 😢

[@tonygabashvili8357]

@@flannelpillowcase6475 No one is genetically impoverished, you have infinitely more power to change your financial situation and location, that's a quality subject to change. The same does not exist for autism, that is permanently ingrained into your biology. Ok dying from a lethal disease is worse but poverty is a ridiculous comparison since that's not an irreversible biological condition. Having loving friendships as a poor person is obviously more rewarding than simply existing as an invisible autistic person who will never find the warmth of community. Knowing how to bond with people is literally a feature you can be born unintelligible to. No amount of Nintendo Switch games and funko pops are going to fill that void, it is a brutal handicap. And yes George Sodini is an evil, terrible person. I'm just pointing out autism is a cold, nihilistic condition. He was literally reading a book on how to have emotions at 48 years old, that's seriously dreadful. I don't envy this guys life at all

[@islixxn]

yes living with autism is worse than poverty use ur brain@@flannelpillowcase6475

[@lmtetreau]

I watched a psychological take on this guy the other day and the psychologist summed up incels perfectly when he described George as "focusing on marketing, rather than self improvement" ... which imo, is absolutely spot on!

[@LoudmouthReviews]

Lol define self improvement. He was in shape, had a good job. Was healthy. But he was still autistic so none of it mattered

[@lmtetreau]

@@LoudmouthReviews again, that's just marketing. And plenty of autistic people have plenty of relationships.

[@LoudmouthReviews]

@@lmtetreau Most don’t. The majority of autistic males over 35 are virgins. Women have a natural hatred of autistic males

[@redleeks6253]

Men are market driven.

[@Libellulaire]

@@LoudmouthReviews When you date others, is "Be in shape, have a good job and be healthy" even in your top 5 requirements/qualities you're looking for ? No, it's not. Because nobody wants that, people want to date someone they have things in common, can talk to and have fun with. This guy had no hobbies and couldn't talk much to others, he was empty af. He needed to work on that if he needed companionship, not only a lover but also friends. And being autistic is not an excuse: there are millions of autists and they have a very normal life, are full of hobbies (actually "losing yourself" into hobbies is a very autistic thing), have friends and are very fun to talk too. Even being an introvert wouldn't be an excuse since, once again, millions of introverts have a very fulfilling life, friends and a lover.

[@jrnewts7790]

"I don't think women are interested in CAT 5 ethernet cables" Me: *puts ethernet cable back on shelf*

[@jacqueleneclark2325]

I literally said, “Ummmmm…. I’m interested.”

[@NobodySomebodyToo]

Ditto, I totally was interested...

[@MyWhiteAbode]

heres me with my cat6 ready to explain the benefits lmao

[@notsam498]

Clearly not talking to the right women, I mean if you're into that sort of thing there's an audience for it. First hand experience informs me there is kind of an audience for just about anything. Though in 2024 better make it cat8 or fiber optic if you really want to turn heads 🤣

[@SuperM00b]

I was like "seriously lets install halo 2 on those bad boys and LAN this shit up Georgie boy".

[@AFDM007]

I love how he peppers in the phrase “I masturbate frequently” in his writing. I’m surprised that didn’t work.

[@anitadobrater3356]

😂

[@ThatMidnightRambler]

It shows stamina, willingness to stick to a schedule, and consistency. Get on that ladies

[@zuhasbekillin3461]

😭

[@rondohatton7292]

George reeked of desperation, and nothing drives a woman away quicker than desperation in a man. Also, not to be crude, but if he needed sex that badly, there are many professionals that specialize in that kind of service. No need to kill people.

[@azazello1784]

Desperation doesn't always drive women away. There is plenty of cases where men begged women to be with them and women agreed.

[@incel17]

@@azazello1784 Fake information, girls don't have compassion, thus, begging them is useless, they way too cruel to understand it

[@DeerDeer777]

@@azazello1784 persistence can be different from desperation.

[@wedabestradi096]

He could have went to Thailand with the money he had and got him one or just went to Vegas and legally bought a hoe like wtf bro

[@anthonyfrison8511]

@@wedabestradi096that’s because it’s not about getting sex these guys think that they deserve woman. So they would view a prostitute as sad/disgusting

[@paballomolata8844]

How do you get rejected by 30 million women, not even your average incel would get rejected this hard.

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Self-proclaimed! haha

[@CartoonEric]

The number has to be exaggerated.

[@botanicalitus4194]

he never talked to that many women, he just felt entitled so he assumed that if any of the " 30 million desirable women" in the US (his words not mine) wanted him they would just appear in his life and he would have a Gf. Since he didnt have a gf he decided "its bc all of them hate me" when in reality they never even met him

[@disobedientdolphin]

It would probably take more than one life to even get to know 30 million women.

[@shanchan8247]

He was very delusional and entitled. Just because you're well off doesn't mean that younger women want you. Based on his own words he was specifically looking for women much younger than himself then got depressed about it. But just like a man can sense clingy, desperate women; women can sense fear and resentment in men. So incels will never find anyone because their resentment of women they feel entitled to is very obvious.

[@bunnybubson1665]

His desperate and shallow attempts is what kept him single. His personality, and choice of age for his significant other is absolutely off putting. He made himself undesirable then wants to blame everyone else

[@notsam498]

I don't even think it was the age, I think it had to be the context. Sugar babies are thing these days. Plenty of young ladies would totally hang out with the guy if they got everything for free.... It's not anything I'd sign up for, but I've seen it first hand.

[@sixslinger9951]

I just realized I have matched couches and chairs in the same room! hahaha

[@chiefreficul9774]

i bet he ignored plenty of good women around his age.

[@Incel_81]

There are no good women his age. Women his age who are single are single because no one wanted to wife them up in their prime. No man wants sour goods. Not to sound mean, but it’s true.

[@AlexOlinkiewicz]

Man, as someone who has never had a girlfriend his life and has gone through some troubling late teen - early adult years trying so hard and failing so badly at trying to get a girlfriend. I'm just glad that I did eventually grew out of that and never went down the road of any of these incels. Yeah I admit it still sucks that it seems like some people can get a girlfriend very easy compared to others, but I learned that relationships are not a requirement to be happy with your life. And while I still look forward to having one, I'm more fine of just it happening rather then me trying desperately to make it happen.

[@lizzyyork]

Try making a bunch of girl 'friends' and spend time with them. You'll meet other women that way. There's tons of lonely women out there and normally we just assume guys aren't interested, so meeting them through friends it's easier to establish if the guy is single and interested without pressure.

[@AlexOlinkiewicz]

@@lizzyyork Oh yes, been slowly doing that. I have some issue with socializing (Asperger Syndrome) so while I have strongly improved my skills in communicated with people and casually have friendly chats and hellos with people, I still need to get around on the going out to hang with people thing. It takes time, but I'll get there soon :)

[@21stCenturyTemplar.]

Stop searching, the more you search the less you will find. First you need to be perfectly in balance with yourself and do normal things like hiking for instance . The best thing you can do is go get a dog and give it all your love without spoiling it and show you are in control in a normal way. This way you will get lots of attention and learn to socialize with women in a normal spontaneous and unforced way. If people and women see how you treat your dog and take care of yourself you will get noticed and people will see you as a good guy. Of course you have to be authentic in and with what you do, you can't pretend, if you, for instance hate dogs then this definitely and obviously won't work! Don't see getting a girlfriend as your most important goal in life. If you need more advice, just ask. I wish you all the best.

[@lesshuman00]

How would you know a relationship isn't necessary to be happy if you've never been in one

[@ginniserena]

@@lesshuman00because I have been in a few relationships but not many and the happiness phase wears off. Then you have to learn to really like each other faults and all. I have decided that with all the effort I put into being happy with another person, I could probably learn how to achieve enlightenment. I now choose to be alone with my cat and have no regrets.

[@Iwannaps5]

Being rejected by 30 million people is impressive, I don’t even know more than like 100 people including family.

[@Anastasiapajarillo]

Women and eventually himself were all statistic numbers for him. But to say that only 30 million women are desirable but also all of those he would be willing to be with indiscriminately, given there’s 4 billion females in the world, it’s loud and clear that his view on women was superficial and limited to consider their age as their only desirability factor.. his dehumanising misogyny was the problem all along, not his social awkwardness. Just to add, him thinking of 16yo girls, cursing them and comparing their s life to his, when clearly, he has nothing in common or comparable to them, is sickening.

[@nukaghoula]

he definitely hit up random inboxes on social media in an ick manner and counted those as come on and rejections

[@declanlittleford5623]

Societal expectation I think could have impacted things.. but he definately didn't help himself and where he talk about the 16 y/o was gross

[@genericamerican7574]

@@nukaghouladefinitely 🤢

[@carolelangat-fortune4557]

😅😅😅

[@JamesWhite-th5vk]

What made him ultimately creepy was his lack of his own vision or purpose. It is pathetic and desperate to chase women as a primary goal.

[@scifirealism5943]

I want to lose my virginity but I'm a loser.

[@Incel_81]

@@scifirealism5943yes you are a L and you’ll never be anything else. Sorry I of all people have to be the one with the hard truth. You make even me cringe.

[@scifirealism5943]

​@@Incel_81okay then

[@jamiehammond7401]

Absolutely

[@user-oq3wt9rz8h]

ridiculous, it is desperate hahaha surprise surprise loneliness and this situation makes you not only desperate, it KILLS you (medical proved)

[@bobbierobinson6269]

He needed a good friend before anything else. Having someone to talk too can make you more likeable. The part that says something is that the women killed aren't even the ones he was trying to have a relationship with.

[@Mia_____________]

The fact he was looking for someone 10-20 years younger than him says even more abut him. He wasn't looking for an adult relationship, he wanted a token girl on his arm.

[@firstandlastaliv3]

He was a Ped0creep.

[@truthhurts...6574]

Blame it on these toxic so called dating experts/coaches with platforms who are poisoning the mind of many males. They have these males delusional.

[@arleccio]

Not 10-20. 20-30. He's almost 50 when he writes these things, talking about 20-somethings. I'd feel sorry for him for being lonely, but it sounds like he did that to himself.

[@justaparps8088]

If he had realistic mindset and was open to dating "less desirable women" he could had actually found someone. But of course men like this never look for someone on the same level as them and think that they deserve someone who is a lot better than them...

[@karolisbareika8306]

What do you expect? He has the emotional maturity of someone 15 younger. Blame the autism.

[@insidiousmischka]

I cannot stress enough how extremely important while bringing up a child is to teach them to function in a society ... to be social, to make friends, to be able to communicate, show emotion, etc.

[@metalsasquatch3410]

In our increasingly online lives things will get worse for this

[@supastar25]

This is so true

[@juanpablosaenz9037]

To make money... when it comes to women it's all about money.

[@nikkic2581]

True. But it would also be helpful to teach society to include those who are unable to learn to be social due to mental health or disability. We should be able to meet people at the level of communication they are at.

[@insidiousmischka]

It all starts in childhood. ONce you teach the kid to function well in a society, then they will be the ones building a society. If you know what I mean ... @@nikkic2581

[@evapopper]

It saddens me that we know more about him than his victims.

[@priceandpride]

How did he only get three people with all that?

[@kenbrunet6120]

Human nature unfortunately. We're curious about Extreme things. The victims were regular people. We know tons of regular people so there's nothing to peek curiosity. Murderers on the other hand are perplexing and rarely has anyone known one.

[@Antoine-gx4yl]

You wouln't watch

[@VenomLeon]

As a single man in my 30's, if there's one thing I'm grateful to have realized, is that books on dating actually made things WORSE for me. It puts an uncomfortable pressure of _trying_ to come off as impressive, which ironically will make you feel awkward with/around women, instead. It can also remove the fun in interaction, because the dating books tell you about having success with women at all times, rather than to just relax and be social, instead to being fixated at a desired result. The best books to read are books aimed at authenticity, in order to help accept, love and value yourself, even with your personal shortcomings (we all have them). Who _you_ are matters the most because that's what will make you connect with people, moreso than what you have and what you can do.

[@bluedragon2466]

Then you read the wrong books. Read those who explain in great detail how women behave and the tests they put on you etc

[@DresdenShuffle]

@@bluedragon2466 you sound like an incel lol

[@pistaluv]

He was entitled, hated women and a creep. He didn’t seek help in any way that was positive because he didn’t think he was wrong.

[@RickD5468]

That describes most of these incels that end up on this program.

[@_Sorceressb]

my ex bf had 3 ex wives (should’ve been my first red flag) and i asked if he ever tried any marriage counseling and he said no and that’s prob bc he never thought he was doing anything wrong as well, that’s when i just started realizing what a true and actual narcissist was.

[@Annoye]

@@_SorceressbYou are as narcissistic as him.. you thought you were better than all those other girls

[@Boke11489]

Quit throwing words around lol @@Annoye

[@pooddescrewch8718]

@@AnnoyeWow , thanks Professor

[@auroraizzy]

From his home tour video it seems he was very materialistic, cared about his big valuable home, his large tv screen, his new car, he placed values on things and that's what he would have done to a female partner. She would have just been another possession.

[@emusaurus]

He would have been showcasing these things, because he knows women are attracted to material things, because subconsciously they want to know the man is wealthy enough to support them

[@Esoteric312]

Yea it's crazy, apparently this was a homework assignment from the dating seminars he went to. He was being fed the wrong sort of advice from a "dating guru" that took money from desperate men. SMH.

[@nicolerose7639]

His house, TV and car were all pretty ghetto

[@annamossity8879]

His house gave me the creeps, absent of any personality whatsoever. Almost like a small motel but without even pictures on the walls.

[@anthonyfrison8511]

@@annamossity8879did kind of look like a house you see on like a crime scene video or something it’s weird how energy will show you things like that

[@ChrisHodges87]

Just listening to this guy in the house tour says it all.

[@neoasura]

I thought the same thing, he sounded...off, and weird, like an android trying to read what he thinks humans find attractive. No where did I hear any humor or levity, something the girls I date love about me.

[@LoveyK]

The frilly kitchen curtains were a definite turn-off! 🤣

[@TheMcPhersonTape]

​@LoveyK If cat5 ethernet cables couldn't get him a girl then I don't know what could

[@MalcolmNessGranger]

Christ, and people wonder why most lonely guys choose to paint the walls with their own cranium... or someone elses along side themselves... THIS. Nothing reaffirms any mass shooters beliefs in his motive more than judgemental people like you that would make fun of him. Instead of saying something that would raise this mans confidence or even distract them from their inner demons, you literally choose to make fun of him. It's funny how we as people, we had, have and will keep ignoring lonely and isolated individuals seeking help & companionship, until they snap and hurt or kill someone. What was that quote? "To get someone to listen, you can't just tap someone on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer, then you notice you've got their strict and undevided attention. Well turns out it's true.

[@Unmaleable]

"My big screen TV.....32 inch...."😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that's basically a computer monitor nowadays

[@GiGi2O11]

Crazy that the ones he killed aren't even the ones he wanted/the ones he felt were rejecting him. They were out of his age range.

[@lorrainesmith.4995]

He liked them super young.. even underaged.

[@theshadow420blazeit7]

George Sodini is no different than Elliott Rodger and Alek Minassian: people who could have eventually found someone but had serious mental health issues they needed to take care of first.

[@allenrussell6135]

I gave up on finding a serious relationship after struggling to find the right woman. I tried way to hard. Instead i lived life and when i was 35 through my job i met my wife and the mother of my son. So for those struggling with finding love, stop trying so hard and live life. If you need physical companionship then hire an escort. For those who disagree with my comment, its better than pulling some crazy stuff and hurting people.

[@camiba6773]

I agree with your comment. It takes time to find the right person for you, it should never result in someone losing their life . this was senseless.

[@brainrich1358]

I agree.

[@sgnibble1]

I’m glad it worked out for you ❤ sometimes it does take time to find someone especially nowadays. I’ve completely given up on finding the right guy and am just living my life and trying to accomplish professional goals. I have come to terms with it and feel fine though

[@loreleimorphee5162]

I have enjoyed my life, working , travelling around the world, meeting different people, never thought that I would find my soul mate, I was 42 when I met my husband, still going strong and still in love after 15 years. There is always hope in life, never, give up.

[@allenrussell6135]

@@loreleimorphee5162 that's awesome. I feel the same way. It was worth the wait.

[@aliichi]

Old men need to recognize they are old. He talked so highly of himself but as a younger woman, I see what everyone else saw, an aged creep who thinks of teenage girls.

[@scifirealism5943]

What's a good age range to date within?

[@aileenkochs6734]

He was not too old - at all. In many cultures, age difference of 20+ or 30+ years is a norm, not a peculiarity. And also in USA, men are often more than 10 years senior.

[@aliichi]

@@aileenkochs6734 The average age difference is literally 3 years. No mentally sane person with a choice would choose old men and degraded DNA. Yes, he is too old and so are you. Stop outing yourself and stay away from young people.

[@missandry2669]

@@aileenkochs6734yuck 🤢🤢🤥

[@fakemanfr]

30 years 😭😭😭 girl what culture are you talking abt ? Forced marriages of little girls ?? Age gaps aren’t necessarily bad but a long lasting relationships won’t work if it’s over 10/15 years.

[@skidspace2452]

I remember when this was on the local news. My dad went to school with one of the victims. It really hit the community hard

[@morganizedwithkelly45]

This was a really devastating and terrifying crime for our area. You’re the first content creator I ever heard talk about it. I still think about the victims and survivors

[@incendiary1]

Dr. Grande has a wonderful analysis of this situation.

[@bloocuteandcuboot]

Dire Trip also!

[@capo4ever334]

Like 3 other channels decided to cover this case in the last 45 days or so. Dr grande is one and I think truly criminal or beyond evil and maybe Annie Elise maybe also covered this one recently

[@morganizedwithkelly45]

I must have missed the one from Annie! I’ll look up the other channels. Thanks!

[@Bettinasisrg]

It's not social awkwardness it's narcissistic, blame everyone else for his problems! No one wants to be around someone like that

[@nickpastorino5370]

I'm socially awkward, but honestly don't struggle with finding dates like this guy. I actually know plenty of men and women who are socially awkward but live a party lifestyle. I actually even reject women from time to time, I'm picky. Watching this guys vlog videos, it's clear he scared people away by saying "a woman would like this!" As if he had to persuade her to like whatever he was talking about.

[@cloud9beauty]

@@nickpastorino5370agreed I am a socially awkward woman. I have many friends and a fantastic few dear, soul friends. Most of my friends are neurodivergent, many are deemed weird by other ppl. They are all wonderful. But his violent inner world seeped out and thankfully warned women away.

[@nickpastorino5370]

@@cloud9beauty It's very ironic you mention your neurodivergent friends as I am autistic. I think the main reason I'm awkward is because I just can't relate to most people well. My coworkers were chatting about different fast food restaurants, and I just couldn't share their enthusiasm about such trivial things. My narrow interests I guess. And I agree, people deemed weird by society are often the best people when you get to know them.

[@frankcaggiano8282]

Average tik tok influencer be like:

[@denisehagwood4542]

​@@nickpastorino5370 I guarantee there are trivial things you yourself are into

[@slingblade8963]

What is easily overlooked is the fact that it seemed like there were no good people in his life. It doesn't cost a thing to be nice to people you come in contact with. Your kindness can make a big difference in someone's life.. maybe even prevent a nut job from committing this sort of crime.

[@tatianab.4307]

The fact is he’s not a good person at all. It didn’t cost him a thing to be kind with women and to not see them/us as objects.

[@slingblade8963]

@@tatianab.4307 you're missing the point. You can only control your own actions..

[@Salmakia77]

Nobody is owed a relationship or sex. He’s no victim of circumstances or fate at all, he is the only one to blame for this and quite frankly I do not think he is “intelligent” at all.

[@scifirealism5943]

So then how do I lose my virginity then? When women keep rejecting me?

[@FrankWhiteSamCarter]

Tell that to the bitter females who been ran through and looking for the prince charming that never comes through for them. It's funny because women feel like they are owed relationships and sex when they hit the wall but nobody tells them that they are not owed anything, stop simping.

[@Hello_Spaceboy]

@@FrankWhiteSamCarter channelling the spirit of George, are we?

[@FrankWhiteSamCarter]

@@Hello_Spaceboy Trick.

[@nobodysperfect06]

Sometimes I like to think that women are the only gender that are owed a relationship because they are the ones that get pursued and hit on

[@mickeyhulk6790]

Looks aren't everything, when your personality is so creepy. Its easy to see why all women wouldnt have anything to do with him.

[@cdes1776]

While he was sitting in the ridiculous 'alpha male' meeting he looked like he was attending court-mandated anger management. His face showed his mindset. While he may have been there to learn he clearly revelled in his misery and may have been looking to have his viewpoint validated.

[@MillerGenuineDraft1980]

I don’t know some women love assholes, bad boys. They stay with men who abuse them. Even prisoners have the odd woman after them.

[@deadinthewater218]

Bingo you can see it in the eyes usually

[@leesashriber5097]

Exactly 💯

[@mickeyhulk6790]

@kittikat1839 that is weird

[@allie9434]

As a psychologist, this makes me so sad. Therapy (and likely medication) could have done wonders for him. Instead, he chose a love guru who doesn’t use any evidence based approaches. Such a waste.

[@pgbrown12084]

Nowadays, while it is easier to get access to mental health services, it's still a hurdle to try and get help. "We'll call you if we feel like we can help you" is still a horribly common phrase from mental health professionals. Going back 15 years when this happened, getting help was almost an insurmountable obstacle. The mental health industry desperately needs to modernize so professionals can do more to help lonely people like this guy.

[@scheezy]

@@pgbrown12084 Sadly men's mental health isn't taken nearly as seriously as it should be.

[@NickyBlue99]

​@@pgbrown12084It isn't hard to get help.

[@belmum1689]

​​@@scheezyHe just hated women, he expected young pretty women 10 - 20 yrs younger than himself to want to have sex with him but he didn't want to have sex with women his own age with average looks

[@PsycInColour]

Psychology is derived from philosophy, many of the philosopher’s being considered the gurus of their time. It’s only been named a science for the past 100 years (just about). I wouldn’t quite call the approaches of gurus “non evidence based” there is plenty research that supports approaches such as mindfulness which at one point would have been classed as a snake oil “approach”.

[@annedolan3050]

What math did he use to come up with 30M women rejecting him? How was he actively pursuing 30M women in order to be rejected by them?

[@lizs9345]

I've noticed that a lot of these types often go for very young women, and even underage girls. Which would explain the root issue. Shameful. Sad.

[@bamgold4677]

Well your the one whose adorable

[@MrHwilRRR]

Makes sense. If he has a home and he is relatively fit, there is no reason why he cannot find a woman unless he is shooting way outside of his league.

[@MoralesCorner]

It's pretty obvious something was deeply wrong with him right from the jump

[@jujutrini8412]

@@MrHwilRRRHe was clearly a creep and even young naive women could spot it a mile off! These kind of guys are deluded.

[@arjanaveres5616]

He should have focus on making friends, and going out to enjoy life. Then he probably will have met a girl

[@mikaellugo4146]

Holy shit, Ian used to deliver at my job all the time. I found out from one of his coworkers he died just up the block from us, and now finding out what happened to his mom makes everything even more surreal. Rest in peace to the both of them

[@harlov8803]

​@@Blondehottie321guess you didn't pay attention to this video then....shame

[@Blondehottie321]

​@@harlov8803I definitely don't sit on the edge of my seat listening to every detail. I make full use of the fast forward function and skip to the actual story😂 you should try it. Do you troll youtube comment throwing shade at people?! You too live a sad life. 🐍🐍🐍

[@harlov8803]

@@Blondehottie321 "you too"? Aww we both sad people then 😢

[@bkchic8824]

His obsession with only seeking younger women was probably what started this bs. Older men are not entitled to younger women!

[@kenirainseeker539]

Men are not entitled to women period

[@4_vaccuum_salesman_of_marr944]

We aren't?

[@smileplease_91]

​@@4_vaccuum_salesman_of_marr944nope. No one is entitled to anyone.

[@joshreichardt2485]

He might have had luck if he had pursued women his age, but his toxic and creepy personality wouldn't have had done him favors in this area. His lonliness is his own fault, and he had no right to do what he did.

[@bkchic8824]

@@4_vaccuum_salesman_of_marr944 No one is entitled to anyone! No one is obligated to be in a relationship with anyone! Happy now?!

[@THEIDLESHOW]

Some of these incels expect for people to either ask them out or say yes at any attempt of an advance. It just doesn’t work this way. RIP to all victims.

[@itsbrittanybtch]

I am glad that most of them survived. But so heartbreaking for the 3 beautiful women that were lost. Such a disgusting tragedy. 💔

[@DanielleWhite]

The way he seemed to feel that having possessions and how much he spent on it was such a major attraction and never considered that anything else could be important to relationships.

[@simpanzee1196]

The more you listen to the manosphere, the more likely you are to end up a lonely and frustrated incel instead of some giga-chad who's actually successful with women.

[@LuRoyJenkins]

Elliot Rodger was the same. "I only wear designer clothes! Why aren't these girls flocking to me???"

[@gilessteve]

I think it's a coping mechanism for low self esteem.

[@4tner]

He only ever sought advice from PUA grifters, of course he thought that way about women. These men moan about gold diggers while using their money to attract women. Insecure guys wiho know they have nothing else to offer target financially needy wonen. It gives them control and makes it harder for her to leave. That's why anyone who's ever looked at apartments on Craigslist has seen those ads where some dude offers rent-free accommodations to "women in need."

[@LoudmouthReviews]

Like what? He was autistic. Do you think he should have just not had autism anymore?

[@adoniscollado]

stop apologizing for being sick we still love your content! ❤

[@adoniscollado]

@@lumpypillowguy542 i meant at the beginning when he said he was sick “under the weather” “voice sounding different”

[@lumpypillowguy542]

@@adoniscollado yep I'm a dumbass, consider it retracted

[@adoniscollado]

@@lumpypillowguy542 all good haha

[@pinkbubblesnake]

I'll be honest I didn't even notice a difference 😅 Please don't worry.

[@TaterTotsNFanta]

Is it normal for blood to come out the eyes nose ears and mouth when trying to pass a massive turd??

[@wkgurr]

"I have extra money...." He should have spent his money on a mental health therapist - a shrink - a Dr. Grande. Sodini sounds like a man who could have profited from a long mental health therapy. Sodini reminds me in some aspects a bit of the protagonist in Houellebecq's "Serotonin". Although that man backed away from the ultimate deed.

[@sleazymeezy]

Some dudes just dont realise that if you build a beautiful garden butterflies will come to you. Be happy with yourself and comfortable with your own company. Try to improve yourself always and good things will come to you.

[@yulebones]

I've seen this guy given as an example of why women should be forced to "give" men a mandated amount of physical attention, because obviously it's women's responsibility to make sure that incels don't do what he did. You know, the obvious solution, rather than men stop looking at women like possessions they're entitled to. Editing to add that since people are jumping to yell rather than reading my entire two sentences for context clues, no, I am not actually saying that women are possessions. Please read things all the way through. It's two sentences.

[@WoWGirl6]

I don’t think that’s what it’s about at all. It’s an example that men do go crazy if they don’t get physical intimacy. This is an extreme example that went too far. But think about how long he lived without hurting anyone. He was never violent. Seemingly normal guy. It was a tipping point. And he finally broke. Men are wired differently than women. It’s a biological need. Like how animals go crazy in captivity. There is something natural in their behavior that is missing. Not a popular opinion but we should have never outlawed prostitution or red light districts. At least back in the day they had their uses/purposes. The women who needed money and had no other skills had an outlet. Men who needed physical contact had an outlet. And the obligation would not lie on the rest of the women in society. The problem goes deep. Men without women, men without families, men without a community. Men who have nothing to lose are a danger. It’s harrowing and also very sad that there are more and more of these types of men today… I think it’s time for us as a society to avoid creating men like this. We have to be sympathetic to everyone’s needs.

[@annekd729]

Yeah, if you gave these men girlfriends, they'd abuse them or at least not make them happy. Their singleness isn't the problem, their attitude to women is.

[@martinal-almani3192]

Elliot Rogers vibe lol

[@frankcaggiano8282]

Anyone who thinks using a murderer or serial killer example reinforces their argument is probably a lunatic anyway and not worth engaging with lmao, and anyone who takes someone like that seriously probably has the electrical activity of a sweet pea between their ears

[@KL-un8sf]

Saying it’s any genders responsibility to prevent literal crazy people from doing something crazy is kinda dumb tbh

[@kanehan6995]

Self loathing is one thing but to want to harm others is something else. If he wasn’t an incel he would’ve expressed himself in other destructive ways.

[@Prince_Silver]

The thing that stands out to me with these cases - and dudes I've met who think this way - is how they measure their own self worth in terms of relationships. They can have other positive traits and achievements, but are so blindsided with this idea that their masculinity is determined by *possessing* a sexual and romantic partner that they end up unable to treat women as people. That's something that needs to be addressed, both individually and culturally, otherwise shit like this is just going to keep getting worse.

[@brianw.5230]

Great point! He had other things going for him like good health, a job, etc.

[@alexwright8724]

I was near the area when this happened. Thank you for making this video, I didn’t know anything about the guy. This was so much worse than I thought. Great job as always, and I hope you’re feeling better!

[@gigachad9016]

It’s scary because in these days of social isolation and an increase of lives being lived online, the loneliness epidemic will create more people like this

[@JackieBlue65]

I've noticed that as well,I live in a small town,my choices are old farmers or too young men...😂😂😂I'm ok tho❤

[@HelloKitty-pe4ho]

They better buy them an Asian woman.

[@MakeSense71]

Also an increase in detrimental online gurus guiding vulnerable people off a cliff with their terrible advice.

[@shilohbell1573]

Ugh, I don’t wish these men on ANY women.

[@missandry2669]

@@HelloKitty-pe4hoDisgusting Asian women will run

[@dstyer6128]

He suffered from the same disease that a lot of my friends that took longer to have successful relationships suffered. The disease of trying to pull someone out of your age range and out of your league and not being attracted to anyone else. I'm sure he had interest from women his age.

[@LoudmouthReviews]

"I'm sure he had interest from women his age" How do you know that?

[@naomihatfield3015]

That blanket statement of "all women over 30 are bitter" so he focused on *young* women.....not realizing that HE was extremely bitter.....so much irony. It would be funny were this not so tragic.

[@mikikiki]

They need to quit watching porn.

[@JohnDoe-xf9ly]

So what if he had women his own age interested in him? I am not defending what the guy did but will just twist the topic in a diffrent direction You need to ask the more important question Why are wo.en his own age i terested in him Because they are the same age That is a bs reason to be in a relation ship Maybe because the women are old and npt getting you ger and 90 percent of their eggs are dried up and dead so they can not have kids Also a bs reason for a mam to be in a relatio ship with a women who is his own age Maybe because they are old a d want to settle down Also a bs reason The main reason to be in a relationship with some is because you care about that perso which later turns to love Being in the same age bracket is pure bs

[@boyandcatmum]

​@@mikikikiI agree 👍

[@llfm3190]

What you said about being loved at the end made more sense to me than years of therapy lol. I've strangely never heard anybody put it that way, I am going to try to live by that.

[@SurvivenTerry]

The lonely life of depression...is what it is just gotta stay tuff

[@jodiunger9425]

The scary thing is I know a handful of people EXACTLY like him, totally obsessed with finding a partner, to the point no one wants them because there obsession makes them treat the opposite sex in a manner i can only describe as vary overbearing, false, and extremely strange. They then go on to blame everybody and everything for there failure to find a spouse, ask friends for advice, and you keep telling to stop approaching every women with an obvious intent to get with them, stop treating them differently or special, treat everyone like you treat your friends. All in one ear and out the other, they continue to act in a vary creepy manner and continue to get angrier and angrier at others for reacting to there creepy behaviour in a predictable manner that they cant seem top wrap there head around.

[@earthynomad7160]

I know many guys like that too .

[@kimpeater1]

It's almost as if there were hundreds of millions of years of evolution hardwiring the sex drive into human males and this biological imperative if not successful after 20+ years will cause a man to malfunction catastrophically?

[@SallyBerry9]

I completely blame the rise of those ‘Alpha’ male podcasts, which all started with those stupid pick up artists. Young men are being recruited by those losers in the thousands and it’s terrifying.

[@missatomicbomb555]

Hard agree. Whenever I play online games (mostly men, it has been an interesting way to meet different personalities without much filter), there are those that treat me differently and address me directly for absolutely no reason other than me being a woman. It's so uncomfortable, those are the worst. It comes across as desperate, as if you're looking for just any and every woman out there. The ones that treat everyone nice, are respectful and talk to me like a normal human being are so much more attractive, personality-wise. Just having normal conversations.

[@LoudmouthReviews]

By creepy behavior you mean autistic behavior. You hate men with disabilities

[@BrizzB]

If only he had said "I dress well" instead of "I dress good", he'd have had me forever. Jokes aside, this reminds me of Elliott Roger, not a bad looking guy who could have had plenty of women interested if he didn't come across as a creepy stalking, obsessive weirdo. He says the same things ER said. It's like he never grew up. He has a very childlike way of seeing women and how relationships work. Good looks won't necessarily save you from loneliness. Unfortunately loads of men are this clueless, and sometimes women don't know until we're in danger, trapped in a situation with a confused emotionally disturbed man. Be safe ladies

[@fostertheweekend]

This

[@DeadpoolX9]

Elliott Roger is different nice clout bait. Elliott Roger was a complete fucking moron. The entire thing that baffles me about the incel movement is 'why do they obsess about people who arent interested?" I think it stems from some very deep need for validation from dysfunctional childhoods that no one will ever talk about for the fact that its so much easier to just complain about a problem than it is to solve it. Like 'if this person who rejected all of a sudden becomes interested again then that means I can approve of myself' type thinking. Its absolutely stupid and dare i say socially retarded in the most clinical way I can phrase it. Elliott Roger seemed to desire sorority girls while being.... well a trust fund baby with pretty toys. He wasn't the hunk dude that they would probably go for and he was also half asian which is a very raw deal as a male. The Asian Female White Male thing is a VERY deep rabbit hole and the males that come out of that normally have a lot of self image issues not helped by an environment which seems to denigrate them at every turn while they also contain the entitlement of whiteness. It's tough. Anyways he basically was fishing for gold diggers at people who just wanted 6 feet and a 6 pack and then got pissy when the audience he was (barely) selling to wasnt buying. This dude.... is straight up just a fucking pedo. It's REALLY weird for a 30 plus guy to be wanting "young women" and basically flashing his assets at them to entice them like candy in a van no? Maybe its some misguided attempt to relive a youth he never had idk idc. I... get nauseous and extremely uncomfortable at the prospect of a relationship with someone who isn't within 2-3 years of my age. For someone in their 40s to be actively pursuing and trying to seduce girls in their 20s... thats a little bit suspicious dont you think? And its much different than Elliott Roger. Paris Hilton is a different kind of stupid than Kim Kardashian.

[@DeadpoolX9]

just..... the way he keeps saying "young girls" and "edible" is...... very unpleasant. I think you can kinda read it too based on how you said "childlike" way of seeing women. I'm a little bit nauseous.

[@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307]

WHY'S IT SO WRONG FOR ADULTS TO ACT LIKE CHILDREN? I STILL ACT LIKE A CHILD, BUT I WORKED 4 JOBS IN THE COURSE OF 5 YEARS, I LEARN NEW THINGS ABOUT THE WORLD, I TOOK DRIVING SCHOOL. I COULD BE A NORMAL FUNCTIONING ADULT, BUT YET IT'S STILL SO WRONG TO ACT CHILDISH AND DO CHILDISH THINGS! I'M 21 and while I don't mind putting on this mask of a mature adult, I have the right to be a kid at heart. Besides, i don't like being near actual kids or minors ether. It's why I go to a playground and swing at night.

[@imtired4914]

I don’t think that’s the kind of immaturity they meant. ​@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307

[@WARChild29384]

It sounds like he was totally isolated in every way of his life.

[@mandymaree9430]

Maybe if these people stopped blaming the world for their problems and actually tried to fix their own negativity and awkward and creepy ways...maybe then people would be interested in knowing them. Seems most of them dont have a personality, think possessions are enough.

[@ZodiacBoi42]

The most interesting thing to me is when someone documents with videos and notes while they’re slowly going insane. It’s both fascinating and terrifying

[@shadowyapparition]

He should've worked on himself mentally, physically, hobbies etc... His mindset seemed to be that he was owed a woman, as if they're objects. He was never looking for another person to connect to, just superficial check boxes, pretty much what he was doing to himself. Piss poor mind set, negative energy, misogynist way of thinking. How could they resist??

[@iashi4289]

It's easy to say that when you're not in his position

[@LTPottenger]

Sigma grindset lol

[@ReinierSandtke]

@@iashi4289 what’s the alternative? Blaming anyone but yourself for your problems, killing 3 innocent women and not taking the easy way out? Suddenly going to therapy doesn’t sound too bad…

[@4tner]

​​@@iashi4289it's easy to say it because it's true. Life is hard, marinating in self pity doesn't appear to have helped this guy at all. Maybe if someone has sat him down and told him some hard truths about himself, his expectations, and his approach, he'd still be here. Pickup artistry is for retards. Self-improvement is the only thing that could have helped him, and there are no hacks or shortcuts through it.

[@ricardomelo2714]

​@@iashi4289found the incel

[@jinchuriki7022]

Loneliness is the worst part of being a man. You have to earn everything, including love, and even if you have assets and personality, its still not enough. You dont even have to be a creep for women to avoid you, just be extremely unlucky.

[@fanaticat1]

Did anyone notice that at the seminar, they were shaking hands left handed instead of right handed? Also, not only did George look nervous, but the women he shook hands with looķed nervous. Was it because they were shy, or because he was creepy?

[@tangogent]

IMO, he desperately needed psychotherapy but was trapped by a scamming 'dating expert' who took his money. The expert made his problems worse.

[@patmorris9692]

You’re the only one who understood it. George needed help, but seeked it at the wrong place.

[@bobbydenezza7795]

It's clear he got fleeced.

[@acropolismauve8496]

It seems that he also needed a friend, he seemed desperately lonely outside of having a romantic relationship.

[@Swerv0.]

Exactly! Part of me really feels bad for the guy because a million different things could have happened and changed this outcome.

[@lorrainesmith.4995]

These 'Alpha male' men are destroying these slow men... they take what they say 'literally.' ITs a trap door.

[@liyahrochelle7716]

I love Coffeehouse Crime. I appreciate the time you put into your videos. You’d be surprised the amount of influence you have on our lives. I have been really depressed lately but watching you is something that makes me feel okay. It’s almost a safe place.

[@mary09844]

Hope you find healing with the depression and have better days❤

[@SillyPudding]

Yes. I understand this. Sending you an English hug.🙂

[@DaWorzt99]

Here's is a virtual hug 🤗 for you 👑 💞🙏🏾

[@azazello1784]

Your safe place is listening about murders? That doesn't sound healthy.

[@Lombreee]

No 20 year old (man or women) wants to be with a person in their mid 40's.

[@Incel_81]

As a 43 year old man, no 40 year old man wants to be with some 40 year old woman. It’s gross. Now be quiet little one. 😂

[@candicoated2001]

@@Incel_81 You are 43 years old and wasting time commenting on people's posts on a true crime video about an incel. Do you ever wonder how your miserable existence got to this point? Y'all don't want to be with women your age cause 20-year-olds are easier to manipulate and control; you don't want to be in a relationship with a competent and mature woman you want to have control of a girl instead.

[@CryptoCryoto]

My wife does dumbass 😂

[@lottewied1937]

He never learned how to be just a good friend . This is the way relationships start .

[@scifirealism5943]

I just want to lose my virginity. I can be a good friend.

[@suh1120]

I think this case highlights the mental health issues that are so prevalent in our society today. I would imagine that if George had found the right therapy, things would have been so much different. I can relate to what it’s like to feel hopelessly lonely, and I’m grateful that I’ve gotten out of that state of my life. Fortunately, resources are becoming more accessible everywhere, and it’s what helped me in the end.

[@yulebones]

@@GeekGamerGui The reddest of flags up in here.

[@hannahelizabeth2883]

​@@GeekGamerGuiwhile I agree that being a man is difficult in today's society, that doesn't come from women: it comes from patriarchy. hegemonic masculinity teaches men to constantly "man up", not show any emotion besides anger, and that anything else is weakness. they're constantly striving for that "alpha male" goal that isn't attainable, because it doesn't exist. patriarchy hurts men and women, just like misogyny hurts women, too.

[@anachorafire1453]

Right !!!??? Theirs Facebook groups to join what your into or hobbies to meet new people ! At least

[@lumpypillowguy542]

​@@hannahelizabeth2883I think being human is difficult in any society. Be it past present or future. I think you may be correct though. Being under the boot of the patriarchy hasn't done us any favors. It's baked in a pretty awful mindset that is evident in our time

[@Tigo625]

@@hannahelizabeth2883 Masculinity is a biological concept stemming from testosterone. The patriarchy is made-up and most "man up" or "don't cry" aspects to men come FROM women.

[@silentbliss7666]

George was a classic case of wounded masculinity. He didn't want love from woman, he just want sex, affection and admiration from them. Did he try 30 millions times to court those woman and then failed 30 millions times? Of course not, he wanted them to be swooning over him and be infatuated by him because of his career, wealth and looks.

[@EATMECOSIMTASTY]

Absolutely! I mean here is some guy who Is so desperate for female attention, oh no not just female attention but attention from a 20 year old female who is more attractive than most and who is willing to have a lot of sex and when he can’t find her because his personality is so weird and dull then he decides he hates women and goes on a killing spree! Such hypocrisy! Women are good enough to have sex with but he hates them??! WTAF?! Basically what he’s saying is…I want a young, stunningly beautiful female who is very sexually active and who will praise me and act like a carpet I can walk over and then wonders why women don’t want him? Ugh it makes my blood boil!

[@DeadpoolX9]

@@EATMECOSIMTASTY could have just gotten a mail order lol but no, men like him are even worse than that. Their ego wont let them get what they need. No they have to make everyone submit to them and thats why they're so resentful and hateful rather than just solving their own problems. "The majority of the American men who married foreign wives were White, highly educated, and successful.[3]"-from wikipedia Fackin lol, he's the exact target demographic. This could have just been one woman's problem rather than all women's problem if he had just pulled out of the resentment death spiral.

[@b1LL1eMc]

Yep - it's like how Elliot Rodger would sit in his car expecting women to come over to him... just expecting women to be aware of their presence and be drawn to them... somehow...

[@v.melancholia.v]

👏👏👏

[@pureone8350]

​@@b1LL1eMcI mean, to be honest in my case, 99% of all girls/women that I have been involved with came to me, not the other way around. It's more about mindset and the way you carry yourself.

[@marshareed1438]

A man friend told me about that woman hating program. It’s so sad, but true that a lot of men play that treat women like shit game! When a low self esteem guy pulls that on me I let him know instantly I’m not the one, game over! The Golden Rule… Treat a person in the way that you want to be treated…Apparently those men want to be treated like shit…Chasing too young of women was his second mistake! I don’t understand why much younger women fall for the much older man con. They got to know that it’s not love they’re after. I’ve had 20 + younger than myself men try to get with me lol. I tell them, I’m not looking to take care of my “son”. 😂

[@tedcruzeatemyson]

Adrian, I've been watching your channel now for some time and I absolutely love your calm soothing voice and how much attention you pay the victims. You bring them to life and make them seem like someone I've known. My dear neighbor and childhood friend Lucas Cavanaugh of Sullivan's Island South Carolina USA was murdered by another one of the students at our high school. If you could find the time to, would you please consider doing a video on him? His story deserves to be shared and people need to know what happened to him. Thank you. May all the victims in your videos rest easy. ❤

[@StevieChilds]

This guy kind of chose to be an incel, he even mentions he expects to find someone 15-20 years younger. He had very unrealistic expectations and standards. Like he wanted to find some hot younger women impressed by his house and belongings. Realistically women like that go for much richer guys. He doesn't seem to be interested in someone his own age, or less than a 10. He was way too focused on sex as well, that always comes off as creepy.

[@StevieChilds]

I have a relative like this, he's socially awkward and makes women uncomfortable, and he also has very shallow, unrealistic standards. Probably passed over some decent women bc of his uncompromising standards.

[@absinthemindedJ]

Soooo creepy.

[@hunnixox13]

That's the commonality with incels. An obsession with sex and no real interest in actually connecting with people.

[@felatioable]

Well said. I was gonna comment on this vid but this comment pretty much captured my thought. People tend to point out that some incels (like this guy) are not necessarily unattractive physically. But these guys tend to have unrealistic standards and a bad mindset - which leads to their perceived hopelessness.

[@meanpersona4686]

@@hunnixox13 Beacause they don't view women as people with their own thoughts and emotions, but some kind of pre-programmed npc's who will sleep with them if they follow a few steps. They claim they "just want to be loved, just to be hugged", but the moment their fantasy of a beautiful woman who does everything he wants, thinks exactly like he wants and accepts everything he does is broken they lash out with anger, violence and hate, beacause a woman decided to politely decline his offers. Most of them only want sex and don't want a true partner, beacause that would mean they would have to respect a woman.

[@MusiciansRule07]

As always, I appreciate how you approach each case that you share with us with compassion and with the utmost respect for the victims. I've never heard of George before today but I am thoroughly aware of Incels. It's not their looks, society, feminism, or hypergamy that keep Incels alone. It's their mentality. Their mentality is hateful and bitter. Nobody wants to be around someone like that. My heart goes out to Heidi, Elizabeth, and Jody's loved ones, as well as to the people who were injured. Also to those who were uninjured but present when George did what he did. I hope they all have the support they need.

[@mookzmom]

I'm in my 60s. This guy was in my age group. All I know, with my limited experience, is that most men come with psychological damage. My ex-husband and I get along very well, but live in separate states. He has all sorts of deranged ideas, though I don't fear him personally. My last relationship was a trip around the world of father hatred and narcissisism. I'm not free of damage either. I don't know what the answer is. I just know it's there, and it's heartbreaking.

[@sethchandler4170]

There is an epidemic of lying. That's the root cause. People who lie to themselves are the most dangerous people around. All of the damage or trauma it's just a convenient shield to block personal responsibility. We all engage in it to varying degrees, the correct path forward is to tell the truth and for partners to hold one another accountable to what is true. Relationships fail, typically, because both parties fail in this regard. Whereas men tend to be more aggressive in their failure and with lies; women tend to be more agreeable and enablers in their failure. We are supposed to correct one another to help steer each other towards the middle. While it is true some are beyond saving it is also true on an individual level if we are not at least competent in telling ourselves the truth there is no and will be no successful relationship.

[@cotton_hill]

If u think most men have psychological issues, then you either suck at picking them or you're the one who's messed up in the head...

[@aero4379]

Maybe you're the real problem, just saying 🤷‍♂️

[@scottmalcolm]

He was going after younger girls because he missed out on them when he was in his 20s - he was the kinda of guy who thought he needed to be perfect before a girl would want him not realizing everyone has to move up the ladder socially

[@zigzig9938]

Isn’t this called Peter Pan type of syndrome? Meaning, a person misses out on certain experiences in his teens or youth and want to experience it, when he’s older. I don’t honk TAILS had a video about it.

[@hollum1648]

That blog entry started with ‘went on a date today’ and ended with ‘I’m totally alone and no one will date me’; which is it bro

[@kenbrunet6120]

You didn't understand his words. Clearly the date didn't go well. Plus we use the word dating in multiple ways. One date, or dating regularly. He used both meanings

[@lorrainesmith.4995]

He probably made them feel so grossed out. ..I agree he is a liar as well.. lots of dates..so. ITs him , not them.

[@feralon9570]

He didn't want a partner, he wanted a young girl.. he could dominate. This took place in Bridgeville Pa. I remember it, being so confused why he did it the way he did. Just glad he didn't take out more people. I didn't know any of the people killed but my heart still goes out to the families after all these years.

[@gbafongbafon]

When violence is involved females drop that equality crap real quick 🏃‍♀️

[@mrwest231]

I live in a suburb of Pittsburgh, and I had no knowledge of this case. Excellent work as always

[@CommanderTavos99]

52 shots and 3 kills, I always find it fascinating how much you can actually survive

[@backpackingtony1779]

I struck out with women until I was 32. I stopped dating and gave up on relationships since. I focused on other parts of my life eventually losing interest in relationships altogether. This guys gives me massive creeps. I can see why women would avoid him. Great work on the case Adrien! Your work just gets better and better! ❤🎉 Edit: I thought it was implied that I was rejected by women. I stand corrected. Of course I was! Why else would I give up altogether? My point was I know I’ll never have a partner. Ever. That doesn’t mean I go crazy and harm anyone! No one owes me a partner. No one owes me anything! I’m ugly as fuck IRL and this guys grosses me out! I hope non of the women in my family/friends groups ever meet creeps like him!

[@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203]

Women rejected you. Stop lying

[@leifd731]

Bet it wasn't 30 million though..

[@thegreencat9947]

Boys....boys....play nice.

[@mom.left.me.at.michaels9951]

I feel you. I'm honestly happier just on my own. I don't need anyone else to feel "fulfilled". Anytime my family pressures me about getting married and sets me up on dates I give it a chance. Normally by the end of the date I remember why I have other priorities and hobbies 😅.

[@user-du4gw]

us young women rejected him because hes old as hell

[@kisubags437]

I bet he had an unrealistic standard of what he found attractive. It’s impossible to not meet someone interested in you. Unless you yourself are ignoring or rejecting the signs women show. He likely ignored advances because the woman wasn’t a hot 20 year old. What a loser.

[@pureone8350]

I have known guys who were not good looking and losers but there is always at least one female that attracted to them. These cases where the man complains that no woman has ever been attracted to them is just pure cap

[@scifirealism5943]

I'm an incel and I'll give you my story. I've had a few women interested in me but I was either too scared or too lazy to date them or sleep with them.

[@jacqueleneclark2325]

@@scifirealism5943doesn’t that make you voluntarily celibate?

[@scifirealism5943]

@@jacqueleneclark2325 yes. I'll choose to go out more

[@Oldshoolchick]

Hey Adrian and coffeehouse family ☕️

[@KerstieM]

I remember this everyone talked about this story for months on end! Everyone was rightfully on edge… I was a bit younger but recall my mom and teachers warning us about what to be on high alert for… you just never know how or where a crime will go down. Most of these women had no knowledge of him.

[@anderson-gb8rp]

"what to be on high alert for" - What? 5'5 ugly men? Don't worry, they were always invisible to women.

[@TheSpiritRoom23]

It’s crazy how people aren’t working on themselves but instead pointing fingers😮‍💨 if he actually worked on his personality and any other things he can improve on, he could’ve made genuine connections. It takes time to have genuine connections but when you finally do the reward is worth the wait.

[@louisecassel2433]

Maybe he should have tried for women of his own age instead of young girls? Typical, blame everyone else for your failures. He was a sick delusional man getting information from all the wrong places. Sadly these women had to pay for his delusions. Well told Adrian.

[@AlexanderJoneshttps]

Women his age have baggage so I disagree with you there

[@ewarrior9776]

Women don't go around killing men if they can't get a date. Men are the ones with baggage.

[@AwkwardBlackGal613]

​@@AlexanderJoneshttpsYet he was perfect. Ffs

[@C4TC4T]

@@AlexanderJoneshttpsand women in their 20s don’t want to date someone that could be the same age as their dad🤦‍♀️

[@misst5835]

And men his age dont? @@AlexanderJoneshttps

[@freakyb8713]

Love your stories keep them coming

[@nerisukariosu9260]

8:12 thats a vid shouting “look what i have! Come to me or rob me”

[@peterashby-saracen3681]

There is this way of thinking that goes "If I 'look good', work out, wear expensive cologne, have an expensive house and an expensive car and above all tell the world how wonderful and desirable and deserving I am, sexual/romantic partners will automatically fall into my bed by the dozen..." This is so delusional. Putting aside his creepy videos and waxwork-like appearance in some of his pics, he and other infamous incels clearly never wanted to accept that for a huge number of people, being real, down to earth and accepting of oneself - warts and all - is far more attractive than this kind of bizarre behaviour.

[@DeerDeer777]

Well said.

[@emusaurus]

I mean that sounds good in theory, but women are attracted to those things. My brother said when he was looking for a woman, the first thing they wanted to know was how much he made and what car he drove

[@Lucy-mf5gk]

@@emusaurus never been financially motivated with a guy. In fact as your message came through - I'm mid way wiring some money to my male friend in philippines for xmas. I have observed- however, many men who go for the female who expects them to pay. Maybe its seen that she loves herself more, they like that confidence- or are just used to a prostitute type situation.

[@Yo-pz1em]

These guys worship men like Andrew Tate.

[@auemmjee]

​​@@emusauruslikely that was because of the type of women he pursues. My guess is he isn't going for the quiet but brilliant bookworm type who would have asked him about what he's read lately.

[@mr_drdave_6265]

Loneliness sucks, I agree. I felt this way when I was coming out of high school, so I can only imagine what it feels like as a 48 year old. But that’s where the sympathy stops. Living for the purposes of companionship isn’t a full life. There’s so much more out there that can be overlooked when you make life only about one thing. And to then twist that loneliness into bitterness and hate, it’s just awful. My message to anyone feeling lonely is that you’re never completely alone! Live your life to the fullest and you never know what can happen. I met my wife when I stopped being so desperate. 😅

[@khakinest1918]

Even tough I'm not desperate for being single and virgin at my age (I'm 26), and even tough I try to be a good person and help both my friends and family when possible I find myself in a world where no matter how bad of a person you are, you have the choice of wanting a specific girl you like and have her with no issues, while on my side I've been told that is wrong to want someone as your partner. So it's either be with someone I don't really like just for not being lonely or accept the fact that I can't be given what I would like. Also add this: differently by many of my friends I'm quite friendly and able to make friends and connections. It happend twice that when helping some of then out of loneliness I got twice stabbed (one was extremely jealous and treated me like shit even tough I presented her to him, the other one started taking shit on my back and telling people false stories to discredit me) in the back, all of this because they wanted a girl and in the end by fucking me over they got it. You tell me if someone should just accept to be used as an object while also being devoid of love😂

[@khakinest1918]

So people who couldn't make friends once they were given them they decided to betray who helped them and still got away with it and also had a partener

[@thegreatlouie3682]

@mr_drdave_6265 Well said! 👏

[@carolynjiminez1247]

Loneliness sucks but we are responsible for ourselves.

[@neoasura]

You have to adapt, Im in my 40s, and besides a few dates and flings, I was basically single for 10 years, covid I didn't even date or hook up for 3 years. You want to know what happened? I had the best garden in my neighborhood, my house was immaculate, I got into photography, week long backpacking trips, I was in the best shape of my life, even started to brew my own beer. I was having a damn good time, until I met my current GF out of nowhere at a check out counter, I was so used to being single that it was hard for me to re-adjust to being in a relationship again. But again, you have to adapt.

[@thrillcollectors]

These creeps who end up taking their own lives are so pathetic and hateful. The fact that they planned to kill themselves anyway and yet still vow to bring down as many others as possible is absolutely despicable

[@laurieneal5516]

As I watched this story, I begin to notice that this is the third man that had the same difficulty with women. Of course, just because you are alone and have a hard d time with the opposite sex, you should never take out your frustration on innocent people, but my question is "What do you do when you have been alone a long time and are in need of another ones attention"? What do you do when you need affection but aren't getting it? What do you do when you want to just feel loved but no one is there to give you that, or even for you to give your love to? I empathize with him to an extent. I have myself been in that situation myself and I know how it feels to be lonely. When your friends are all getting paired up but you all left in the cold all by yourself. It can destroy you inside. You feel like you are not worthy of anyone being there for you. It rips you apart mentally and you just want the pain to stop. It stays with every waking day. The feeling of rejection is excruciatingly painful.

[@alexthedeal1827]

some people are born blind, some cannot get a woman, some get hit by a car and put in a wheelchair not being their fault, life can't be perfect for us all, it is what it is

[@user-jo3hg8ch7t]

The reason he was alone he wanted young girls like under 20 or 16 above

[@user-xq2bq1rq1l]

He was lonely and in pain because he wanted an affection from a young beautiful girl. He was delusional.

[@ianclose123]

I've had periods of my life where I've been lonely, but I've never been so lonely that I've felt the need to do a walk-around tour of my house to try to attract prospective partners. That's a new level of desperation and suggests a complete absence of even the most basic awareness of what women want.

[@SY-ok2dq]

Well if he'd gone to some overpopulated country where there are a lot of young women living in poverty relative to the U.S., then he should have been able to snap up some desperate woman with this video! I mean in places like the Philippines, in the rural provinces or the slums of Manila, there would have been plenty of takers. Heck, there are 60 yr old Western male pensioners whose only income is their government pension who can land themselves Filipina wives under the age of 30. Shocking but true.

[@forumef9997]

@@SY-ok2dq Actually men in their 70s and women in their 20s is nothing exceptional in many countries. And why not if both parties are happy about it. At this age of diversity, it should be no problem, should it?

[@SY-ok2dq]

@@forumef9997 Where my family is from it NEVER happens - at least not publicly and would have to be kept a hidden affair from everyone including family, neighbors, employers etc. Goes against cultural norms (Confucian values) and is taboo. Of course there are probably prostitutes who service men that old but they would have to be rich. Realistically, people in their 60s or 70s are at the end stages of their lives - in the past, in many countries they'd be close to the median age for death. So in some ways that would be an excellent outcome for a young woman in her 20s to marry a man that old - but only if the woman doesn't have a child that she has to then raise and provide financially for, when she becomes a widow, or if he's wealthy AND leavea everything to the widow and her children. But men that old might have older or adult children by other wives and therefore there's the possibility of the estate either going to those older children or of the estate being divided amongst heirs and that would leave a widow and children with less. That's okay if he's very wealthy, but if he's not, the widow would have to try to marry again (hard to do with another man's children, in the past) or otherwise find employment or income. Meanwhile a young woman marrying a man of around the same age or maybe ~10yrs older, can reasonablt expect that their husband will be around for at least 15~20 years which is enough for the man to provide for any children until they reach working age (which, many decades ago was 15, 16 - even back in the 70s and 80s in the U.K. it was very common for teens to finish school at 16 and go get full-time jobs). Even though a young man may not have the wealth of many middle-aged or elderly men, many young men can expect to earn more as they get older. And wives will not have to be caretakers of both children AND an elderly husband who needs help doing things, might be bedridden or in hospital etc. Also, people in the 50s, 60s and especially 70s will have very little in common with young people and are likely to have extremely different ideas and values. Especially in terms of women, women's rights and conditions for women have advanced a great deal in the past several decades. Therefore the values that young women have may clash with much older men. This is very true in recently Westernized countries such as China. Young women in China have had great opportunities for education and career compared to women 20~25yrs ago. They don't see themselves as only housewives and child carers, and they want things like emotional support, sharing of housework etc. Men in their 40s are not going to understand or agree to that because they grew up in a very different society. It's even worse as you go up in age.

[@myyolii7777]

Get well soon Adrian. Awesome well researched and narrated video as usual.

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thank you!

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

Adrian u aint as simpy as you used to be, well done, proud of you@@CoffeehouseCrime

[@Officialjaychainsquad]

What a wild story. Not one I was familiar with, thank you for the video. Amazing work!

[@barryspurr9577]

Excellent analysis.

[@Tomacawc]

My heart broke when you read the memories and lives of those beautiful women and moms I couldn’t imagine losing my mother to such a tragedy. Keeping them and their families in my prayers

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

they werent beautiful, they were old by that time, past their use by date

[@MelMel-sz2gd]

@@JesusAlfonsoRafael Found the useless incel trolling. Disgusting.

[@Phishfps]

@@JesusAlfonsoRafaelfound another incel

[@Tld0026]

@@JesusAlfonsoRafael Isn’t it past your bedtime little troll? Better get off KZbin before mommy catches you and takes away your Xbox.

[@lovem7635]

​@@JesusAlfonsoRafaelfor him

[@josemariapenairigoyen7681]

Man, your content is excelent. Its obvious the effort you put in making videos with the same pattern but avoiding at all cost to be repetitive. Cheers!

[@anilamanganaro5296]

Thank you so much for sharing