Coin Rings-Finding Dead Center Of Any Size Coin Using Any Size Punch

[@markjackson3627]

Use a washer same size as coin the round hole will be the center.

[@fjernsynet]

Great to have you back! Wish you would make more videos! Love em all!

[@mattress38]

man fencekid I gotta tell you, this is by far the best method I have ever tried. nothing is worse than trying to work a ring with an off centered hole. thanks alot bud keep it up man, love the videos

[@BigRonxxxx]

there was a long time between your last videos,i was really hoping you had not decided to stop making videos for your channel,i really enjoy your channel,all the best,from florida

[@fencekid]

Ron Sanford Thanx Man. :) Just been buzzy as it gets lately. laters

[@qhiggie]

Hey FK I REALLY appreciate the skills that you are sharing. You have saved me a lot of aggravation I just hope you know how valuable your videos are two guys that are starting up in this hobby....... And again thanks 1 million!!!👍👌😊

[@markwaller2889]

Great video! I went out and spent way too much money on a punch set for quarters, half dollars and dollars. However, I get people I know handing me foreign coins all the time wanting rings made. Ordered the one off Amazon today. Your Etsy store looks great! I love the way you finish off the fat end on your state quarter rings. Great craftsmanship.

[@heywoodjablowme1624]

Just curious... what do you do with the slugs you've punched out of the center of the coins?

[@arthurparramoure2923]

Save the silver slugs. Resell

[@gravediggmn]

Learning how to do this so i can make me and my future wife our wedding rings. Was about to drop $60 bucks on a 1/2" dedicated punch and die set. thank you for making this video!

[@669fathead]

hey kid! glad to see your back. got the idea to make these from your first videos and have used yours as a text book. this answers my biggest question so far. keep making ALL of your videos.

[@fencekid]

669fathead Right on Man. My Etsy shop has gobbled up all my free time. It felt good to get back to making vids again. I sure have missed it. I should have done that center punch video a long time ago due to the fact that it is so important in making a balanced ring.

[@MrTim3990]

Thank you for the sharing. Finding the exact center has been a stumbling block for me and you solved that. Furthermore, I am amazed how easy a ring is made. Very cool!

[@johnwheeler1031]

I'm using a block of wood as an anvil and a regular hammer to punch through and it takes a really long time lots of hammering. Do i need a bigger hammer to punch through quicker.. any advice is appreciated

[@flitsies]

Just a thought here but couldn't you find the centre of a coin by simply laying the coin on a bit of paper drawing round it cutting that bit of paper out then folding the paper in half twice, then simply put that bit of paper on to the coin which will give you centre, then take a protractor and draw the middle hole on the paper. Or place that bit of paper on a piece of card and do the hole thing on the card, then simply draw your hole directly to the coin using the card as your template. It's just a thought to make it easier so you can make up many templates that could be reused.

[@vistamombachoapartments1178]

If you use blue tape, as in painting tape, over the coin, it makes it easier to mark. Especially if the coin has any finger or other oil on it. When you get to the annealing stage, the tape will go away, just burn it off. I find it easier to anneal the total coin first. Then the blue tape, mark the center, punch it and it will make the punching easier and more accurate.

[@bent4216]

I started making some rings, I got all the tools and I can make quarters fine but I'm having problems with larger coins like half dollars, should I use a larger pvc pipe size like 1" or larger? Any tips?

[@johngaller2751]

Great videos. Does the sharpie marker come off the coin easily? I plan on using silver proof coins. Thanks!

[@fencekid]

John Galler The marker evaporates during the annealing process. Silver proofs make sweet rings, good luck man

[@projectsponge3275]

Just an after thought. What, if anything, do you do or make with the center cut?

[@fencekid]

the copper ones just pile up with no use for em. But the silver ones, I save and plan on melting them down with sunshine and casting a ring out of em. Definitely makin a video about that one.

[@bob21801]

I very recently started playing with coin ring making and getting the hole in the exact center has been a challenge, and I quickly found out how important it is. Last night I made a discovery that is also very simple and I expect will help a me lot. Another hobby I have is winemaking, and from that hobby I have various size rubber cone shaped grommets, with about a 3/8" hole in the exact center. What I found is, one end or the other of each of the 4 sizes grommets is an exact, (or almost exact) fit for each of the coins I'll be using to make rings with. (4 grommets, each with 2 different sized ends = 8 options) I select the grommet that is the same size as the coin, and insert a sharpie into the center hole, with the tip just barely sticking through the end that fits the coin. I hold the coin against the grommet with my left hand (my thumb and 2 fingers keeps the coin easily centered against the grommet) and apply just enough pressure to the sharpie with my right hand, giving the coin and grommet a couple turns, marking the exact center. This might sound a little awkward, but it is really very quick and easy. I've done it with various coins now and the mark from the sharpie appears to be in the exact center every time. Just another option others may want to consider.

[@djturnz]

Ok, I just realized I've been using my punch set wrong. I was punching with the tapered end. Maybe that's why my coins seem to move while I punch the hole. Do you ever re-harden your rings once they are done?

[@CoOzEbOy1]

I use different sizes of metal washers to trace the middle with. Works great!

[@GertieBirdieJems]

WOW... That's the easiest I've seen to get dead center.. I just ordered my caliper! Thanks again fencekid.

[@ruskeeblue3580]

What side of the punch do you hammer into? Looks like your hitting the tapered side and the flat side is what cuts the coin, am I correct?

[@fencekid]

Yup. The flat side punches and cuts through the coin.

[@johncoonradtjr.5141]

Can you do the same thing to quarter rings

[@scotthomler9838]

when u use the punch is the beveled edge of the punch the side you strike?

[@tjmellonslap]

Nice demo on that ! Wondering about some easy way to center. That will will work.

[@Lowkey20041]

Hey fencekid where did you buy you white nylon hammer? I cant find one like that one a MENARDS or HOME DEPOT.

[@fencekid]

www.harborfreight.com/2-inch-teardrop-mallet-66205.html

[@Lowkey20041]

cool - I'm ordering 2 - Thanks again

[@cruelfish4824]

Cant you just slide the caliper around whilst putting slight force with the pen to just make a circle? It wont be perfect, but it will work right? hehe.

[@jonc.8706]

This is Don again. I noticed since my last post, that when I get center using a digital caliper, I placed punch on to cicle drawed on coin, and circle is larger than punch! Could I have a bad caliper? I zero everytime I measure coin, punch, and circle diameter.

[@fencekid]

Don Cromer The inside edge of the drawn line is the edge of the punch. I'll bet that your caliper marks are accurate, but when you place the punch down on the coin, the coin moves just a little. Try this. Fold up a piece of paper a few times and place it in the under the coin in the punch and die. You should be able to turn it sideways and the coin won't fall out. Then adjust coin to center. The idea is to keep the coin from moving when you place the punch on the coin. Or, use a sheet of leather. This also allows you to pull either side of the overlapping leather side to side, and drag the coin into place. and once there it should stay there firmly. Drop in your punch and punch it. let me know how it goes, yeah?

[@jonc.8706]

fencekid Thanks, I will try that!

[@dude...are-you-sure]

fencekid, thanks for all the awesome DIY coin ring tutorials~ i've a question that is sort of related to the centering of a coin ring. I found a early 1900 Chinese coin with a dragon design that i wanted to use for the outside of the band. i was wondering if i punch a small hole in an effort to save the rest of the dragon design, can i use a step drill and pvc pipe method if i'd be able to save the dragon design? not sure if i explained it for you to understand what i'm trying to do... anyway, let me know your thoughts. thanks!

[@fencekid]

Dude...Are you sure?? Hey, if you can get something in that small hole somewhat mandrel shaped ,it should work

[@Lowkey20041]

Hey fence kid I'm getting pretty good at regular coins like quarter, pennies, and half dollar using 7/16 punch. I'm having a problem with Kennedy dollars. They get too big and not even in complete ring form yet. More like a flower. any advice?

[@fencekid]

I'm gonna shoot from the hip with you on this one. I've never made a ring out of anything larger than a half dollar. Reason being that I know what a half dollar will produce, and I just don't see the need for a thicker ring band than that. But that's just my humble opinion. Unless I was shooting for like a size 15 that still wanted a thick ass band, maybe. I'll have to give it a go some day to just check it. Try annealing every size you climb, and use a block of wood to tap your ring against to get that thing folded over asap. I don't mean, in a hurry, but more get it folded over before your desired ring size. One thing I can tell you, is if you keep at it, you will achieve your goal. Rock on Man

[@Lowkey20041]

you are so right a Dollar is a big ass coin.LOL I will just stick to the half dollar size. I just wanna thank you for your videos. I have become popular at work for making these rings and people want to buy them from me. I'll never become a millionaire, but I enjoy the ability to make them thanks to you. You are awesome in my book. Thanks again!!

[@fencekid]

Thanx Man, it feels good selling a skill that so many people are attracted to. And to empower a few of them, into selling their own skills feels even better. Get it done brother

[@warrioracademe]

I love your videos. Best advice I've seen about coin ring making

[@xlavahott4547]

Please tell me you don't work for Boeing. Making a circle from a dozen lines the size of the punch is NOT finding the center, then "eyeballing it" is still NOT finding the center.

[@jonc.8706]

Hello fencekid, Help!!! I've done everything like your video says about finding dead center but it never comes out right! Maybe two out of ten. I've bought everthing like you use and I really enjoy making these rings but finding center is killing me. I don't know what else to do. The circle looks dead center but when I knock the hole, its off just a little. Most people don't notice but I do!!!! I'm real careful when I put punch in and I hit it solid. I even went and bought an anvil and mounted it on a car wheel. Real sturdy. Love your vids.

[@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783]

I was surprised how affordable your rings are, I still am to poor, but others should buy them, they are so awesome! ty for the demo!

[@Hitech82]

That was the best method i have seen yet. Thanks for sharing that trick and experience.

[@brandonballman5008]

When I make mine to find the center I spent 2$ on a washer set they come the same size as the coins penny's dimes quarters half dollar and morgan try it just put the washer on the coin that fits it get a marker and fill in the circle dead center

[@Ken_Dalton]

Hi man. Long time subscriber from Ireland here. Is that 2014 Kennedy a clad circulated coin or is it a silver minted coin like a silver round? 🤔 thank u in advance fencekid. Your vids are always super helpful my man ✌

[@f5studio505]

Very cool, this well done video solved my worst problem making coin rings.

[@pauldejesus9644]

im not able to slide the flat end of the punch into the HF plastic guide any ideas

[@fencekid]

I'd take it back and exchange it for another one....

[@justinrhine3837]

will the marker come off when you polish it?

[@fencekid]

Justin Banana The marker disappears during the annealing process. Cooks it right off

[@马威威-x4c]

内环尺寸是多少？怎样用PVC把环变平。

[@cwuzii]

Great video. When did you film this? Was that snow at the end?

[@fencekid]

cwuzii those two clips at the end came from other vids I have made. Just wanted to end the vid with actually punching a hole.

[@nickhoban2758]

hi fencekid im from canada and was wondering if you could try to make a ring out of a canadian loonie just a $1 coin the new ones are very shiny and would look almost gold

[@FatGrapeApe]

You know I watch all your vids. You even got me making coin rings. Maybe you could do a vid watching you make a coin ring with one of the bigger coins. I have tried but my middle hole gets to big to fast. Before the the coin is folded over. I would love to watch that vid. You making the whole ring top to bottom

[@janicediana1]

I purchased a 40.00 punch set and I am having a hellava time punching through. What am I doing wrong ? I heated coin first then hit and hit and hit by the time I finished I had screwed up measurement and ended up with a off center coin. !! this is my first attempt at this and you make it look so daggone easy! lol

[@fencekid]

janice randolph Try it with a heavier hammer, on a harder pounding surface, like a concrete sidewalk, driveway or porch. Heck, if you have an anvil, now you're really talkin. Give it another shot, and let me know how she goes, yeah?

[@snowbirdhill1297]

Thanks for the info. This is a fun project and a lot of my friends want one...so I will be viewing all your down to earth video's. I understand a bigger hammer is needed. I don't expect to an expert but would like for them to be presentable but I am hard to please myself so I expect some rejects for sure. I bought a cheap mandrel and needless to say the mandrel is destroyed. So new order is in. The other question is how to determine punch hole size for different coins and sizes? Thanks

[@snowbirdhill1297]

fencekid Oh by the way I changed my youtube name...lol

[@fencekid]

Snowbird Hill the hole size dictates how wide your band will be. The smaller the hole, the wider the band. ring size has everything to do with how far you push it down the mandrel. I use a 7/16" punch hole for both quarters and halves to preserve as much of the coin as possible. But that's just me. These vids here on YT are when I was just getting started. I would try something new. And now that I've tried it, and know what to expect, it's time for a video. The rings that I sell these days are far superior to the ones I have here on YT. And that just comes with lots of practice. For me, I knew from the beginning what level of quality I was trying to reach. And with each ring I made, I would get one step closer to where I was trying to get. Once I got there, to where I could not produce a finer quality ring, it was time to open shop. And whalla......FencekidsCustoms was born. 7 months into being open for business, equated to 500 rings sold. How far will I go with it? Who knows.

[@snowbirdhill1297]

fencekid I am still waiting on some materials to get here, my block came today ~ Now another question what type of pvc pipe do I need? I went to the hardware store and 1/2 " size looked really small so I didn't buy any. What should I ask for ? The guy said it was 40 but looked awfully thin to me. So let me know...sorry to bug you so much but I am so excited to get started. Thanks for your time and videos ~~~ !!

[@ardvarkkkkk1]

You could screw around doing this or go to any woodworking store that sells turning supplies and buy yourself a center finder. Costs about 5 bucks. Just lay it on the coin and draw center lines. No math, no adjusting.

[@davidgriggs8743]

Where did you find your punch set?

[@bobbanks7824]

Hi there fencekid. Love your videos seen them all and i'm making some very nice rings because of them. but i have decided to comment on this one because of all that free info that your giving.....well i just needed to give something back. :-) So you know how you ask us to use a fine tip??? I guess that's so it'll come off easier?? Well my friend i have one better. After messing up a few coins because my digital caliper was crap. I came up with an idea.......if you put a piece of clear scotch tape on the coin you can use the ticker tip (i like that because i can see it better) then after you make the hole you can remove the tape and the marks from the marker too and if your off by a few mm you can add another piece of tape and go one size bigger on the punch to try to salvage the coin. you ROCK man and thanks for all your videos

[@kevinmahanna1556]

Helpful tip to save some math. Measure the punch with the caliper. While still in place, zero the caliper. Then measure the coin and wallah the difference will appear on the caliper. ( Once you half that number, don't forget to re-zero the caliper before marking the coin.)

[@NoobPrepper]

Most Auto parts stores "loan" tools ( with a deposit ) so you can use a Digital Caliper from one then return it and get your deposit back.

[@chrisd4459]

Harbor Freight has them also cheap

[@mikeyd1169]

Hey fencekid. Love your videos. Can you make one doing a silver dollar? Can't find one person to make a video on how to do this with a silver dollar! By the way do you know anyone selling those center whole punches? Thanks man. You are the Lord of the coin rings!!!

[@clansnipars6431]

Where do you get the new coins?

[@fencekid]

ebay

[@JamesKennedy-io]

Tip: Do this once for each size coin then get a 3d printed blank the same size with a perfect sized hole in the middle. Works perfectly every time.

[@bruno_sjc_]

was that an american using SI units?

[@apismellifera1000]

Been doing any hot stuff with the Fresnel lenses lately?

[@spenglase]

Actually have a couple questions regarding your rings and ordering. I apologize, I don't know how to email you on Etsy. I was wondering if I could actually send you a specific coin that I would like made into a ring...and if it's possible to get a man's size 13? I have a few more questions, but I don't want to waste your time. Your work is beautiful, an amazing gift idea!

[@fencekid]

Stephanie Penglase OK, just click Ask Seller a Question on my etsy page and go for it. People send me coins all the time to be made into rings. Get a hold of me over there, and I'll go over the details. A size 13 would have to do with the size of the coin. I can make a quarter to a 13, but because it's stretched so much, it somewhat compromises the details on the coin. Perfectly legible, just not as raised up as on the coin. Hook up with me over there and give me the details about what's drifting through yer head, yeah? I never miss emails over there, and it's my main source of communication to customers. U Tube can be a bit of a different story. Comments slipping through the cracks all the time. Laters

[@textermelol7725]

Stephanie Penglase ll

[@teenermeener971]

can you demo a nickel coin (5 cent).

[@CLUB2627]

Where to buy punch and die set?

[@UpcomingJedi]

Internet. You can find almost anything on the internet.

[@304goodguy1]

man glad to see ur back love watching ur vids bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@johnarizona3820]

Another really interesting post. Thanks for teaching. God bless brother!

[@schill13]

Great videos!! You are a very good teacher!!

[@johnarizona3820]

Hey man I have an 1889 Morgan, any suggestions?

[@isaactrockman4417]

dont destroy it

[@johnarizona3820]

OK, i'll definitely not do that then...Thanks! hahaha

[@charlottehawkins1316]

I love your show! Wow! I'm impressed! Keep up the awesomeness!

[@hingedelephant]

Even better, use the shelf on the back of the caliper. More accurate than having the coin at a slight angle.

[@mavyboyy]

Any way you can make a video on making a half dollar ring into a small size, say a 7 or 8? Can't quite nail it, always ends poorly for me lol.

[@fencekid]

The smallest I can get a Half Dollar is a 9, and it's just like my making a quarter ring smaller womans size video. Definitely takes some practice to get it down that small.

[@fencekid]

fencekid And the dapping block method can shrink it down 3 or 4 sizes on top of that. Curling the Edges of a Coin Ring without a Ring Press

[@anarylanderos9941]

what size would you recommend i punch the quarter with to get a ring that is a size 4 and a half?

[@fencekid]

I use a 7/16" punch hole for all quarter coin rings, and most half dollar coins. If you can't get it folded over before a size 4.5, use a dapping block and a bench vice to shrink it down up to 4 sizes smaller. Curling the Edges of a Coin Ring without a Ring Press So you could fold it over at a size 8.5 and then shrink the edges down to your 4.5. It will get rid of the "fat end" and add some sweet curve to the band as well. Let me know how it works out for ya, yeah? laters

[@bill45a1]

Thank You. I knew it would be easy!

[@spikemotorcity1]

Hi, Great Job , Very Kool !!! I Would Like Make Some Old Casino One Dollar Coins Rings. They Are 34mm OD. Have You Done Any? Can It Be Done? Thanks Greg

[@Au60schild]

Ahh, dude. Bad choice of a coin to use. You just blew out Kennedy's head!

[@tylerholtz7802]

omg

[@faithangelic9342]

🙇 I hate myself for laughing at what you said.

[@bulittcouple]

Au60schild I

[@greenjoe4202]

well shit

[@Kadmosthegreat]

Oh man, way too soon...

[@carryonpompei]

Fab, thanks very much😀

[@chrispeterson6117]

Fear not! Digital caliper can be had for just 10 bucks from Harbor Freight www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-composite-digital-caliper-93293.html

[@fencekid]

Chris Peterson Sweet tip. Thanx Man

[@idm4christ]

fencekid when you making another vid bro? maybe a gun range vid? haha

[@CraigAPennington]

Hey fencekid, my boy and I just wanted to say thanks for your videos. He made a state quarter ring start to finish using what he's learned from your instructions (and Harbor Freight has a few more dollars of mine.) Here's a link to the finished product -- thank you! milo.org/images/PennsylvaniaRing.jpg

[@CraigAPennington]

I meant to point out that the boy is only 8 years old.

[@socotroquito2007]

That calculation was direct from an archimedes aproximation to circle calculation ( the closest he came to calculus!

[@lineehardy3453]

Umm, I came across something more easy. A washer,Same coin size,Hole size, Fencekid,Feedback? Pros,Cons?

[@kgraebes88]

+Linee Hardy sounds fine, but you wont get the unique lettering and dates of a real coin...

[@isaactrockman4417]

i think he means for finding the center

[@kgraebes88]

Isaac Trockman ah yea. that makes more sense, lol

[@sewagekat]

Or... take a sheet of paper. trace shape of coin, cut out, fold in half twice, and lay over coin. you have the center

[@fencekid]

I like that idea. Excellent way to find center for those using a drill. Thanx for joining and adding to the conversation. Sweet tip

[@arthurparramoure2923]

Good information

[@aquakey9834]

I guess defacing currency isn't illegal in some countries, in my country a more than dozen ppl had been locked up for posting a youtube videos documenting how they make these harmless rings

[@michaelridlon9247]

Great video

[@Avery-kf7tm]

Your Back!!

[@ianhunt2156]

Is the one thumbs down your competitor?

[@MichaelSwan66]

you did nail it :) cool video :)

[@bradmoberly6164]

Freeze !!!! Wait a minute! 🤣🤣🤣

[@reality150tv]

There are much easier ways of getting center, without doing all that math lol perfect everytime.

[@bluegrasslives]

great

[@navajohnny76]

Nice!

[@joseperezgonzalez7092]

👍🏻...

[@100bfriend]

I nailed my finger doing that method so I now use a pair of pliers to hold the punch

[@paultrufanov7565]

Красивая работа

[@triggerguard1]

All you need is a centering square, found on a combination square listed here... www.amazon.com/Oshlun-MTM-CS-12-Inch-Combination-Square/dp/B001KW00XY/ref=sr_1_4?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1455476253&sr=1-4&keywords=combination+square Works like a charm and doesn't require dozens of lines, but just two in the center. Use those two lines like crosshairs in your punch, and you're done..... As a machinist and fabricator, I've used this technique thousands of times and the accuracy is far better than you achieve with the method you're currently using, plus it's quicker. Cool hobby....have fun.

[@kiheirc3195]

I probably would’ve found the center of the circle by now if I hadn’t been watching this video

[@pedrobotello6259]

Sell me one

[@321bytor]

Nice!

[@mikoajgajda7518]

My dad was studying on thechnical university of salt lake

[@bradmoberly6164]

Funny videos man

[@CoOzEbOy1]

Way too complicated. But whatever works 4 ya I guess?

[@projectx995]

sigh. glad its just a 2014

[@t0rb1naalborg44]

OK! :-)

[@keavinclark4859]

Mmmmmm