COLÉOPTÈRE: This Strange Looking VTOL Was Too Dangerous... SO I BUILT ONE!

Welcome to another episode of Trailmakers! Today I am recreating the SNECMA C.450 Coléoptère. This was a French VTOL Tail Sitter that failed to successfully transition from vertical to horizontal flight. It was extremely hard to control during vertical take-off and landing and ended in catastrophe on its 9th and final flight. The pilot lost control and accidentally went horizontal too close to the ground and had to eject, destroying the plane and injuring himself. The Coléoptère was never rebuilt, until now.
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In the toughest motoring expedition in the universe, you and your friends will build your own vehicles to cross a dangerous wasteland. Explore, crash horribly, use your wits to build a better rig, and get as far as you can with whatever spare parts you find on your way.
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[@Chris-ok4zo]

I can't decide whether to be delighted or depressed that so many odd, yet failed machines were conceptualized. I can imagine these things launching out of aircraft carriers like barrages of missiles.

[@aircraftcarrierwo-class]

New technologies always produce this sort of "wild west" testing phase where engineers explore the limits of what's been discovered and try to find the best ways to use it. I find it super fascinating.

[@sparky6855]

I think it would be fascinating to see you recreate the Macdonnell XF-85 Goblin. It was a parasite fighter meant to be deployed from the bomb-bay of bombers as fighter-escort for long-range missions. Its absolutely tiny and weird-looking and attached to the bomber with a hook!

[@beardedragonboi]

Sounds kinda like a buzz droid from Star Wars

[@sparky6855]

Kinda!

[@GamingTrivia1113]

Looked like an egg

[@chhavishjain6336]

Scrapman should play forts high seas

[@nacque073]

@@chhavishjain6336 thats the most random comment

[@felixormond9792]

I love how Scrap Man never disappoints

[@naofuminorikiya2527]

*disappointed

[@wqfled]

@@naofuminorikiya2527 so he disappoints now?

[@pascal2085]

@@wqfled Everything he uploaded is in the past and done, so therefore, he hasn't disappointed. We don't know, what he will do in the future.

[@jayrusslee9975]

Ye, and he makes everything so interesting.

[@xx_normal_boy_xx3906]

Ye

[@andreyemelyan5267]

7:50 Wings do provide lift, but not in the direction they are facing. Planes can even fly upside down, their wings don't have to be in a particular orientation. In real life, there is no face down or face up for wings, especially for air fighters. After all this information, you ask "how do they work then?". All wings provide very high drag in one plane and low drag in other planes perpendicular to the drag plane. Thus, in a direction with low drag, the wing can move freely, and in a direction with high drag, a large reactive force arises, which, in fact, aircraft rely on. The side with the higher resistance, facing the moving air, is more willing to stop in that direction, while in the other it keeps moving. All planes in level flight are actually tilted up slightly to create this force. This is why the wing on your creation actually provides lift. There is no cancellation. As you say, they provide stability, but in fact, all aircraft do this and fly. In this situation, the aircraft is too heavy in front, then it must be fought. But in real life, the pilot's seat of an airplane is actually very light compared to the engine's turbine, which is why all the airplanes you've ever seen look heavy from the front, which is why you built them that way.

[@loganroman5306]

I’m sure a conversation with you would go better, but man, proofread your paragraphs.

[@andreyemelyan5267]

@@loganroman5306 sorry, I'm not good in this language, if you can help, say what's wrong

[@andreyemelyan5267]

@@loganroman5306 is this version better?

[@magica3526]

wings do have an up and down side. They can work upside down, just much less efficiently

[@DiogeneDeSin0pe]

Wings do have sides, one is lift, flip it around and it's down force. Example plane vs formula one.

[@Poldovico]

Question: since we're dealing in Trailmakers logic, would mounting the wings backwards help?

[@19future91]

not sure 100% but i think it doesn't matter

[@AcedamiaFunkin]

Because wings give lift I think backwards wings would give a uhhh... fun experience with gravity!

[@Chosen1Creator]

How about if the whole barrel moved up as it was going down?

[@Donke267]

That would be Scrap Mechanic where everything works better backwards

[@Poldovico]

@@Donke267 I was thinking maybe it would try to keep the wing's "front edge" pointed in the direction of travel and not flip over the plane so much during vertical descent. That shouldn't be how wings work in terms of aerodynamics, but with these games you never know.

[@Xeno1798]

I think the fix for how wonky it acts when landing is taking that set of thrusters that's attatched to the base and making them constant. A little upwards force not enough to lift off but enough to ease off the suspension, that way the main thrust is used for take-off and for adjusting while landing but you don't have to deal with as intense of a drop

[@link_playgames]

Good video as always

[@jamesthefroggo2824]

B

[@themanshazam]

D

[@enzokahn179]

E

[@BruhBruh-kx4nr]

F

[@jamesthefroggo2824]

Why did you edit the comment

[@sohaib_t]

Not even joking I learned more from this scrapman series that my school XD Not just knowing old stuff but also knowing how stuff works and why it failed

[@samurban6058]

So glad you did this. When you did the tail sitter I was hoping you would eventually do this. Great job man.

[@pawedabek1445]

That is massive and I absolutly love it

[@maddog-ci4yh]

You should make a plane that airdrops a vehicle

[@chickenpathvods5512]

Let's go, scrap man is the best

[@xx_normal_boy_xx3906]

Yes

[@kostisgames1117]

Yeah

[@dreadblader4606]

I love these historic recreation videos

[@Epicgamrdude]

Nice video! I love the coleoptere and have always found these old concepts to be some of my favourite pieces of history. I think this plane could work with modern avionics tech.

[@-user_redacted-]

Man that landing at 12:30ish was fantastic.

[@BruhBruh-kx4nr]

Good as always

[@slizzlejizzle408]

Watching this before school, thanks for making today epic for me scrapman.

[@short0811]

Impressive, Scrapman! Well done and as always a very enjoyable video.

[@zachbrambilla8265]

I love these unusual plane concepts that he recreate

[@shiny4984]

i wanted to ask you to make this but i didn't because you already made a tailsiter, but yet here you are!

[@kebab8660]

I love the fake out with the optimistic music at 5:28 xD

[@edopronk1303]

Cool! I just was thinking about the circular wing. This thing looks so Thunderbirds like

[@Wasbever_14]

Scrap/Catarinth can we please get a like 2 hour ep on Spotify? Id like to listen to it while studying!

[@Armo007]

Just put the music you want in an endless loop

[@Wasbever_14]

@@Armo007ok yea, but still 2 hours would also be nice. Good suggestion tho imma try

[@devastation2005]

Nice too see you do another tailsitter. Also could you please do the rotodyne? It’s very fascinating

[@RzExfeL]

I really like these videos.

[@mairnathangeorge1683]

At 5:35, the part where ScrapMan just stares at the thrusters failing to lift the VTOL for like 10 seconds is so funny!

[@BLKBRDSR71]

ScrapMan: "How do you land with out land"? Launch Pad McQuack: "Any crash you can walk away from, is a good one".

[@redneck_cowboy7826]

It's as if you were balancing a stick on your finger also love the vids scrapman can't wait for multiplayer monday

[@tnapeepeelu]

This is nice!

[@andreavilla2893]

Scrapmans building and flying skills are so good that i think he could build any plane fly it and land it.

[@jkx349]

So V-tol-tally awesome

[@fisherman501]

An interesting plane to see made would be the Lockheed flatbed, a plane that carried cargo outside the fuselage.

[@somedudenamedjuno1301]

You should make lee Richard's annular monoplane. It has a horizontal annular wing. It's pretty cool

[@kenijnbeeste]

I looks kind of like the SpaceEx starship, with the nose wings, and even the thruster placement :D

[@whizkidbricks9740]

Can you make the Rutan Boomerang?

[@endermite5480]

Hey scrap man I've been watching since the tuning fork episode in one of the spaceship games u played

[@pepperspray7386]

Me: watching scrapman do these rebuilds youtube: suggests old ww2 films of experimental vehicles nonstop from now on

[@Graytail]

Also, try reversing the wings to make this thing into a sort of )+( Wing, and see how she handles then

[@petersage5157]

I'd still like to see you attempt to build a V-22 Osprey or AV-8A Harrier in Trailmakers.

[@a.9.u.fnoobgamer484]

If this keeps up scrapman will have every single vtol name inprinted in his head before Christmas

[@TheJudge_GER]

Maybe a mod which can change the block weight would have helped you with this creation, cause the center of mass/lift are so off in this recreation. With all that makes it more impressive that you were able to land it

[@Graytail]

Scrap, give this another try, but flip the wing pieces on the ventral side of the craft, so that both halfs of the ring-wing provide lift instead of canceling out. I'm not sure if it would have been included in the original coleoptere, but perhaps a gyroscope would help its stability?

[@HelpMeBroFrr]

jeez he deserves 4 billion subs

[@retnuhviewing9698]

I think you should doJuan de la Cierva's model C. 4 aircraft, it was commercially named an Autogiro. It’s very interesting and I don’t know how the trail makers Physics would work but I think you should test it.

[@urdadsmeat9439]

Bro nice

[@WordsOfARaven]

ScrapMan you should try combining all of the vtol's in to one big vtolception

[@XenophonX29]

@scrapman Love the vids! Can you show the logic gates programming in the next video please?

[@tohdo5782]

Yess trailmakers

[@martinaaremann8688]

You can hear scrapman strugeling

[@dryryeroll7823]

Mate, try to make the BV-141. Asymmetry might be fun to try and deal with.

[@moroblizniak4457]

17:11 I like this quote.

[@Josh-oc7ib]

You should totally build an octopus vehicle.

[@seanandaya4597]

Scrapman:”How are you supposed to land if there’s no land?!?!” Plane that are made to land on water: Uhhhhhh

[@kruth6663]

you should add gyro stabilizers in all your VTOL creations, it really helps

[@kostisgames1117]

hey Scrapman i have a suggestion;To build a McDonnell XF-85 Goblin!

[@KillM3Softly666]

Have we done match box races yet! I'm not sure if they would work in SM or troublemakers but Interesting to think about.

[@rehall0404]

"how do you land without land?" I LOL'd too hard to that

[@Yo_Bl]

YOO ScrapMan ur soo close 700k :D

[@Poldovico]

When your historical recreation doesn't work, but the original never worked either: task failed successfully.

[@j-j-jingles4797]

I made one of these a while back. I had the same problem, it didn't want to stay vertical. I made the wing so that the bottom modular wings were providing lift, instead of the opposite. I made it on xbox, so I don't think computer players can access it on the workshop.

[@Graytail]

A third thing to try, instead of having the thrust so far back in the ring, try moving them closer to the cockpit so that most of the weight is behind them? Surely that'd make things a bit more stable for a tail landing?

[@majesticlynxx3067]

letsgoooo new vid

[@JMKnoetze]

would be interesting to take failed designs like this and after seeing them fail like this, too see what improvements can be made.

[@rustyrl665]

Please try an recreate one of the most interesting looking planes ive ever seen.... the "Curtiss-Goupil Duck"

[@thegamingllama3844]

Can you please do a tutorial on how to make mode in logic. I know it’s not the usual type of video you do but I’m doing a build and have no idea how to do the modes

[@186scott]

Not sure if the game has it in but would a gyroscope system help with the landing and taking off so it keeps it up right

[@jaydenrandle3874]

Can you explain what an oscillation is?

[@d4l3k15]

Hi I’m having trouble with making hinges work like how you did it, can you help please?

[@xx_normal_boy_xx3906]

Looks like these ideas will get us to scrap mecanic ch 2

[@snipersnipes4475]

Can you build the Vespa 150 TAP??

[@nathanielsantana403]

The problem with rear/bottom thrust rockets is that all the weight is at the top so any slight angle will increase exponentially but irl you can't put thrusters at the top because the exhaust would melt the rocket and if you put it on the sides it would increase the drag which is doesn't help for something that has to go at least 11.2 km/s to escape earth's atmosphere. (this also explains why front/top propeller aircraft are generally stable)

[@ish00tcake1st]

Could you do a SpaceX starship recreation that would be awesome

[@lepostylre]

I recommend you to build b-70 valkyrie

[@spacepotato8164]

I wish you would do evolution type races again.

[@multinumber]

Multiplayer video suggestion: compete to make the best podracer.

[@shwellava]

You should try and make a Cyclocopter

[@toddabbott781]

Can you turn half the wings around so the the ones at least on the bottom and top are providing lift? Also make it so you can urn off engines in pairs so you have control even when going down.

[@james8354]

imagine being a motion sick pilot flying that thing

[@robertm306]

Scrap man:how do you land with no land. Seaplanes:

[@lehazing5957]

Very cool!! could u upload the craft file on the workshop i have some cool ideas on how to make it more flyable in hover mode

[@FerrowTheFox]

8:49 Does anyone still remember the Card Crusher meme from back in the day? ScrapMan: "Hey engineers, you want this VTOL plane?" Engineers: "Sure, I'll have it!" Scrap man: *crashes* 8:49

[@user-zw5kt8ik2g]

You should have kept control thrusters on all the time in hover mode. Otherwise you loose any control over the air an have to wait for thrusters to power up again and again.

[@franciskurian9392]

Scrapman, I got an idea. Make a beyblade and surround it with magnets facing outwards and use thrusters to rotate it. Use a swivel to cancel out the beys rotation and place another swivel on top of it and place some thrusters to use for changing directions (in instruments of destruction)

[@--Ender--]

Fix: for take-off and landing have a system to pull the wings to the front or push them back

[@tryz0r]

I guess they overestimated the power from those jets.

[@gri150]

"How do you land without land?" -that one wise guy

[@thisismyusername6071]

scrapman keep doing the gud job

[@Gnordlan]

There's a big reason why this seems like a rocket: it's a rocket.

[@ARCEUS_MASTER]

"How do you land without land." Good question.

[@zachbrambilla8265]

Can you make an ekronoplan it's a ground effect vehicle I don't know how well you will be able to recreate it in trailmakers but it would be cool

[@luckyoceandy2104]

hey scrapman can you do the i join random servers series but you drive the failed vehicles that you re-created in trailmakers like seriously i want to see it

[@squoshi307]

I figured out that building these in Main Assembly is much easier. The curves, servos, motors all work together.

[@xST36Kx811]

Oooooo do Gunstar one from The Last Star Fighter, please include death blossom.

[@alexlocke_]

This is like starship

[@Nevir202]

Since he decided to make a flight mode separate from takeoff/landing, if he added something to rotate the nose wings 90 degrees in landing mode, I wonder if that drag would have made dropping tail first more stable?

[@aircraftcarrierwo-class]

I would think that keeping the nose fins vertical would actually be more helpful, in the same way rocket tailfins assist with keeping the rocket stable by forcing the air to flow over them a specific way.

[@ethanhurlston6813]

Do a Multiplayer game with KAN, KOSMO and MOONBO using failed LAND, SKY or WATER (YOUR CHOICE) creations from the past🔥

[@vikingr7791]

Thought it was french video because of the name :D

[@Michael-jg8qb]

I called it when the one youtuber upload video about this vehicle

[@mdma4u2]

This felt like bottle flip challenge

[@magica3526]

couldnt you q and e for yaw, a and d for roll? thats a pretty standard control setup...