THE AERIAL SCREW: There's a Reason da Vinci's Helicopter Was Never Built

[@captainstroon1555]

Da Vinci would be so proud that his creation actually works in a simulated world inside the personal thinking machine of a guy called Man of Scrap. And that people can watch a moving and talking picture of his creation actually working on their own thinking machines.

[@its_duckiooo_z8083]

yes he would be so proud

[@lucamega1212]

🤯

[@foxboi9032]

🤣

[@NaturallyYuri]

Yes

[@doge5344]

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[@CodingDragon04]

I think you can get this thing to work better by adding vertical fins to the lower part, increasing the drag when it rotates. This in essence allows the rotating servo to push against the air to rotate the top part. (angular momentum is conserved as the air (in real life at least) would be pushed back)

[@Dozav7]

Agreed. Or even somewhat counter angled.

[@einar2963]

or add a screw going the other way on the bottom par, no clue how to make that look good. But should make it fly more easily since theres less wasted energy?

[@Deathcon2040]

Or by adding more weight further out on the base to make it harder to rotate.

[@coreytaggart128]

This was my thought as well, top vs bottom the one with the least drag would spin the fastest.

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

I'm just happy by the ideas to improve the design even more

[@SonOfmowgef]

I honestly wouldn't mind a dual series where Scrapman recreates things he's built in Scrap Mechanic in Trailmakers and also the other way around.

[@wolfbane5948]

Yes

[@InfiniXCat]

But with the collision particles Ouch that looks like Spain without the S

[@gouravpal2202]

Hey scrapman you should try to make the Antarctic snow cruser a really cool vehicle which turned out to be a fail because the prosecution was really bad so it's perfect for you.

[@CapPotato388]

Kosmo already had his hand at it, i don't think scrapman would do the same now

[@goodsirrrr]

"Everything is possible when you have turning, yaw, and roll" - not scrapman Edith: Thanks for the likes (I think this is my most-liked comment).

[@Rand0mSituation]

Theres a paper “plane” design where its just a tube with fins all around the rim on one end of the tube And you’d throw it while giving it a spin and it should fly Quoted “plane” because its not really a plane, its just a tube lol Note: Look up “Flying paper tube” for reference

[@stevepittman3770]

Upgrade time: 2 counter-rotating devices should be stable aside from the stability of the sails. And you should need half as many sails so maybe that would be more stable.

[@rylenstuffsv2]

I love that we're gradually learning while watching him play

[@dariusdavis6259]

Ive been subbed since the very beginning and every time I am in awe of what you come up with to replicate.

[@Datboichannel]

But your account is only eight months old! I’ve been subbed for longer than that and I haven’t been here for anywhere near the beginning of the channel!

[@deathconccc3338]

@@Datboichannel there are old accounts and sometimes people dont sign in (kinda sucks people think that way)

[@cheesymcgee549]

On the PlayStation port (I assume for Xbox, too, but I don't own one), The achievement named "Leonardo Da Vinci", which requires to be in the air for 60 seconds without power cores, and it shows an image of the aerial screw, sadly no power cores would probably mean a glider, instead of an aerial screw.

[@DangerKnerd1]

I love it, when you build weird stuff from real life 😅

[@markjacobson4248]

I suggest something called the "Pedrail wheel" it's super cool but also very weird

[@deathconccc3338]

.

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

its like a suspension wheel

[@morgancollinsworth4779]

I think a pedrail wheel would be cool to see

[@ilovehumongoushonkers]

Lmao your comment got stolen by a bot, I hope scrapman sees it tho

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

@@ilovehumongoushonkers well i don’t see it so i assume it was removed

[@angeloinfinity3054]

fun fact: way back when da vinci was alive and in similar times, copyright did not exist so inventors to safeguard their works would put small flaws with crippling impact in their creation so that only them would know how to build it properly also many projects were studies of functions and proof of concepts

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

that’s actually really smart

[@deathconccc3338]

Oh wow

[@angeloinfinity3054]

@@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 necessity is the mother of all invention, lack of copyright is the mother of all flaws

[@glauberglousger6643]

How does that work with music, Art, or books? Also, if it’s 1 small flaw, it be easier to crack the secret designs

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

@@glauberglousger6643 don’t let people hear the music

[@barefootalien]

This actually wouldn't be all that hard to modify to get working in Trailmakers. I can think of two different ways. One, tailfins or sails extending radially outward from the base would provide a lot more rotational drag, putting much more of the power into the air-screw. Alternatively, any even number of them connected to each other, with corkscrews in counter-rotating pairs would work, though then it'd just be a primitive quad-copter. You could also make one with two concentric corkscrews on concentric axles with gearing to make them counter-rotate, but... I think that'd far outstrip the materials available and understanding of mechanics of the time.

[@gigatheprotogen]

Maybe you could add pistons from the base to the bottom sail to add more stability to the corkscrew

[@flintdoggo9897]

Really like watching your stuff recently scrapman, i was also wondering, have you checked out space engineer yet? it seems to be pretty similar concapet to the games you play so you could enjoy it, Just a suggestion though, keep up the great work!

[@pacefactor]

Fun Fact: There are drones being developed using the aerial screw type of prop. It is show to be comparable in stability and power to propellers of a similar threshold with the possibility of being a lot quieter and more thrust at lower RPMs, along with some other advantages - though its major drawback is its weight of construction. The fun bit is that it generates lift in an entirely different way to most conventional methods, so a whole lot isn't known about it at this time and they haven't yet determined an ideal shape for them.

[@its_duckiooo_z8083]

this should be a series

[@SecureGM]

There is this device kids played decades ago. It is lost to history now. It has ball/disc like pointy bottom and a lever on top, if you press it down it spins until it looses its momentum due to time or collisions. Could be fun to make something like that and see how fast and how long you can make it spin.

[@coreytaggart128]

I think this is the mechanism you were describing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5vci2iFnJiei9U "tin plate spinning top" is what I searched for to find it more examples in images then videos.

[@Mr-vy7zf]

If I remember correctly what are you actually talking about, I saw such things like 10 years ago or even earlier, maybe something like this is still being sold somewhere I didn't check, but greeting from Russia

[@The_Bhaskar305]

Try making the French "Marquis' Multiplane" of 1908. It was originally a flightless machine, but seeing how you tinker in trailmakers, i think you can pull it off and make a flying version. Also, you could use magnets to try and 'grab' the sails in a certain positions like the transformer you showed in this video of yours. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3uVgHaQqMSJsMU

[@i_forgor7268]

If your trying planes, try the one of the first plane, the "Wright Flyer"

[@eternal60214]

He's already done that build

[@i_forgor7268]

@@eternal60214 i think nah, he didn't build it

[@eternal60214]

@@i_forgor7268 you're not a good thinker then because he has

[@i_forgor7268]

@@eternal60214 send me the link then

[@eternal60214]

@@i_forgor7268 so easy to find kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqO2lmiQepukfZo

[@HalfWolf2]

A long time ago in brick rigs I made a series of 'tornadoea' which were effectively spinning screws, that games build grind allows for different axes but in trailmakers you could make a series of layers that are plus shaped with a servo between each layer, and then as they spawn they rotate by like 45 degrees or so, then adding more servos to angle the sails, this making a corkscrew shape

[@tamir_shenar]

I wonder if a sort of flywheel inspired contraption would help with the counter rotation (maybe based around a set of free-floating servos?)

[@j.jimenez7545]

I'm really loving this series Would be awesome to see a rotodyne

[@coreymorse1347]

That was the first thing I made when sail were added. Add some counter rotation to the bottom and you can stop the spinning. Attach a compass on a servo to the counter rotation and you can control you facing. Add some shifting weights and you can sort of control tilt to give forward/back control.

[@ashleyarundel3134]

Adding a rudder sail (and front counterweight) to the base may reduce the counter rotation and give steering? Awesome build all the same!!

[@xShadowXxYz]

Try building one cylinder that is powered by thrusters to go one way and another, making a propeller to turn. Try using this cylinder mechanic to power a car or plane in trail makers.

[@nick012000]

Or just build two screw rotating in opposite directions.

[@esoses55]

Maybe when you attach sail to the sides bottom platform, they could create enough resistance to stop it from spinning?

[@cananvanloggerenberg1609]

I've watched a lot of your videos, really enjoy them. Honestly IMO, most intelligent youtuber when it comes to building impossible crafts and extremely knowledgeable about real life physics and mechanics. Big ups bro, love the effort and dedication.👏

[@Nightman5694]

you should make the DaVinci tank, its basically a pyramid that has around 8 cannons and flaps on the top, and spins while shoot, making it basically a minigun!

[@tbuk8350]

You can also add wings to the base facing in the opposite direction, so it slows it down with drag, and any rotational force left in the base gets turned into lift. I've done the same in Besiege many times, and actually created some perfectly stable flying machines that way.

[@jccrofty30]

Really liking the series of recreating historical or little known vehicles

[@justarandomgamer7667]

So I can see why the historically-accurate creation sparked- the lift created by the sails pushed them up against eachother since you didn’t have them all connected individually to the bar in the center, instead creating an almost spring-like design that the generated lift interacted with. Rq I’m not an engineer lol, I don’t know how to use proper terms to explain this. I’m just trying to put what I see into words

[@ererederechte]

7:10 Steven he's dad on his way to school: Imma pretend i didn't see that

[@KV-2-2-2]

“When I went to school I walked uphill both ways” “Physics wasn’t invented yet”

[@overnova875]

A possible idea that i thought of to lessen the counter-rotation is to add tail wings to the base so it catches more horizontal wind which slows it down so more of the energy goes to actually rotating the screw

[@onixbomb3611]

You should try the kugelpanzer spherical tank created in ww2 for scouting

[@fakeaccount8457]

A large scale battleship using arial screws should be interesting

[@ducknan5229]

Hell yeah

[@alpha3wolf359]

Could you program some thrusters on the bottom of the creation to fire off at the right time to keep the bottom of the creation from spinning?

[@ADonutMan]

Finally returning to great original content scrap man is known for

[@Counter-snake]

what you could do is attach those bars to the shaft that attaches to the corkscrew and push the bar instead and add a lil spinny thing on the bottom so it so it doesnt spin bottom

[@rubbertoe3231]

you could add big horizontal sails to the base to counteract the some of the conservation of momentum like big air brakes. I think it will slow the base down and allow more energy to go into the corkscrew sails

[@TRIGOONAMON]

The original model was connected for stability and avoid collision.. if you connect the sails to the rotating platform, it may work. Still not sure about that

[@jojonotoxicophysics]

Hey scrapman sticking with the rotating theme could you try and recreate one of those twisting seeds that fall from trees and glide gently to the ground.

[@ericmartin8271]

Check out the main battleship guns on Space Pirate Harlock. A proper turret needs 2 axis of rotation, but in space/in the air you need to fire in all directions, so one of the axis of rotation is the “waistline” of the spaceship.

[@Jkauppa]

one spiral on top, a ton of vertical wings up keeping it up, in-line and stable against the rotor spiral, two parts, top-down

[@Jkauppa]

add a spike under the base, then its a floating spinner toy

[@someone-cf1ol]

imagine leo's face watching this and getting mad at himself cuz everyone is mad at him cuz he did not know what he was building also can you build something called Amphibocycle? me and leo sure have something in common

[@triciamichalk4476]

What do you mean "you have something in common"?

[@someone-cf1ol]

@@triciamichalk4476 cuz i dont know anything about what i'm doing

[@triciamichalk4476]

@@someone-cf1ol understandable have a great day

[@someone-cf1ol]

@@triciamichalk4476 you too

[@isaaktimmermans362]

You could have used an anchor to attach the bottom. Maybe it would make it less glitchy or make it work better

[@Logic_Blade]

You could probably put wings on the base facing sideways so that the base wouldn’t spin as much

[@looksgoodonpaper]

Yet another awesome video in this great series. Liking this concept of videos very much!

[@suicidalbanananana]

Different kind of contraption but also to get stuff in the air, something i saw recently and made me think "would this work in building games?", look up something called SpinLaunch, while you cant go to orbit it could still be a cool way to travel. Might be more useful in scrap mechanic survival btw, both for quick travels (if you can land in water) but maybe also for flinging crop crates to farmer?

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

you should make a mechanical horse (in SM) with a lot of power so you can make inefficient old carriage designs

[@devarious1988]

That, or Karl Benz' motorized carriage which led to the invention of the car.

[@-user_redacted-]

Challenge idea for you. A sail powered aircraft that's essentially a large Frisbee with a propeller of sails underneath, that you pilot by walking around on top to tilt the direction you want to go.

[@moonninja1470]

I have an idea try putting sails on the lower area so it would put more resistance on the bottom then it wouldn't lose any momentum or have it sort of spinning itself too

[@skjekken]

Try making a quadcopter with the aerial screw as propellors. Some researched just did that a few days ago and showed it working, even saying that it might have some benefits over tradition propellors.

[@anteshell]

A little correction. The counter rotation is not caused by conservation of momentum, which is the first law. It's caused by two forces opposing each others, which is described in the third law of opposing forces or action and reaction respectively.

[@rossitzadimova7547]

you can put some type of wind resistant block to stop the base from spining

[@rossitzadimova7547]

the base is where is your seat

[@aseem5662]

On the topic of bizarre, please try the "peugeot moovie concept car"

[@St4ples]

Yayyyyyyyyyy! You should do a series of all of da Vinci's machines at some point!

[@der-gus]

why do all these creations actually manage to turn out better than the original

[@Cosmic_Tortoise]

Aerial Screw - The precursor to one of the most widely used inventions in american households, the Ceiling Fan! (running the Aeriel Screw in reverse, anchored to the ground, would create a fan shoving air upwards. Attached upside-down to the ceiling of a room and you have a ceiling fan using this machine and method.)

[@chara020]

Very Nice! Well done, and it’s kinda bright. But… “Mom, is this a star?” “No, it’s Scrapman testing his flying screw!”

[@dizzydrc]

Didn't think you'd pull it off... Nicely done Scrapman👌🏼

[@tropicalvikingcreations]

This was a really cool recreation, nice execution of the design. I feel like because you have a 2x2 wide core you could use pistons attached to the last sail and go down or up with them. Or even off of the side of the core rod with a trailer or free hinge to adjust for any angle to make it a little more stable but at the same time maybe not with the connection points idk. Ps. Techblox devs are looking to add small jet engines and simple sensors next update and there was the memory logic bits last update.

[@toddabbott781]

Just put wings that rotate and have them spiral up the pole. Then put big flap out the back attached to the base to slow the rotation. Then maybe make a smaller screw using wing tips to go forward. Maybe it the screw in the front could be angled you could actually steer and counter the last of the spin... especially if you can get it moving forward a bit.

[@hendrix232]

Scrapman needs to play space engineers

[@carsonsiegenthaler7765]

Leonardo's fighting vehicle, Da Vinci is smiling upon your great achievements in the ways of science and exploration.

[@Necromorph790]

I honestly was gonna suggest this last video scrapman, so its nice to see you're doing it :D

[@joreyoutdoors.7237]

Air resistance would let it fly if the sails were spinning fast enough

[@wulfytime9981]

put sails on the bottom platform so you create some drag so it flies better

[@joreyoutdoors.7237]

Can you recreate the Atlantic snow cruiser and se how it would work

[@SirNobleIZH]

Make just a normal vehicle, but it's been named "Dinnerbone". If you don't get the reference it's from Minecraft. If you name something "Dinnerbone", it flips it upside down. So like an upside down boat or car or smth

[@lennelbalando5615]

I just realized how good trailmakers' physics engine is with the monospinner and the aerial screw, and the fact that it's so optimized that I can play it at my potato pc

[@Gabriele_G]

Try building one of those old bikes that had one big wheel and one small go on water

[@scottowens398]

A penny farthing?

[@thespyderdude]

I like that he thought it wasn't possible, it worked, then he managed to give it control of altitude

[@Kronholio]

If I'm not mistaken, your modified version has a state, where the corkscrew is in the Buildmode-position. Wouldn't that mean, that you could brace the bottom of the corkscrew against the main mast, too, and move the brace up and down when extending the corkscrew, perhaps via pistons?

[@somedudenamedjuno1301]

Yess! I totally commented about da Vinci's inventions!!

[@prodbymoondawg]

You probably have the best community out of every youtuber

[@agentv1240]

That animation actually works, because the sail is connected to the base with ropes, and that whole assembly is free spinning around the shaft.

[@BL00F0X]

I'd love for you to try to build a strandbeest. They are wind powered walking machines.

[@snipersnipes4475]

What about da Vinci’s “Fighting vehicle”? It’s essentially a 360 degree tank

[@sebastianmauger-hollmann1416]

I'm curious to see the corkscrew props used for a quad-copter. Perhaps having 4 of them will allow for more control, or at least a more steady lift off

[@tblsp]

You could anchor the bottom of the creation with a piston and a anchor block that attaches to the sail

[@Chris-ok4zo]

This makes me wonder how different propeller planes would function if instead of blades, they used screws. Maybe it has been tried and failed, I don't know, I'm no aerodynamicisist.

[@FastForwardPlans]

People were aware of da vinci's design back when the first attempts at propellers were made. They were tried for both boats and planes, and in both cases it kind of worked, but not nearly as well as the blades we currently use. They were louder, slower, and far easier to break. They are a interesting idea and another proof of da vinci's genius, but like a lot of the hypothetical things he mused about, right direction, but impractical.

[@Chris-ok4zo]

@@FastForwardPlans OK, thanks for the history lesson. I had suspicions that someone must've tried this idea at some point.

[@stevepittman3770]

I'm not either, but I'm betting a screw like that would be a lot heavier than a prop, and likely have serious issues with vortex shedding along the edges which would induce a lot of drag.

[@anoncoms]

I'd love to see you recreate the Arctic Snow Cruiser!

[@doodletanki6661]

another reason why the corkscrew wouldn't work is because most of the corkscrew would cancel itself out in terms of pressure difference created, as the air pressure below a layer of the screw is immediately cancelled out by the lower pressure on top of the layer right below it

[@daksh8380]

Why does that kinda look like a firework when it’s at full throttle?

[@antoniolozic1517]

Try to make working tank tracks, even if it might be really hard, the end results would be really cool

[@alessiobenvenuto5159]

Tried and it's a pain

[@antoniolozic1517]

I also tried it to make the russian kharkovchanka and it was really glitchy

[@alessiobenvenuto5159]

@@antoniolozic1517 i tried a ww1 tank, but the threads were huge and broke all the times. Collisions in trailmakers are pretty approximated and glitchy, but it's because they're made to make possible to have air drag and body damage in the game, compared to scrap mechanic who doesn't.

[@94ccf]

It's amazing that Da Vinci made a design that could technically fly, hundreds of years before planes existed. Dude was a genius beyond his time.

[@thundercrowz]

You should make a snowmobile in scrap mechanic

[@papaeof]

Roller schip is a cool concept try it

[@scottowens398]

I think you could potentially use a piston on another servo thing to stabilize the screw part. I don't have the game, but I think that's a decent solution.

[@OdinSonnah]

I was disappointed that you never tried to mitigate the counter-rotation with vertical sails attached to the base. Would love a follow up video, if you're willing to give it a try. Also, did you consider just attaching the very top sail's mechanism repeated in a spiral pattern going down the mast? It might not provide quite as much lift, or look as much like the original corkscrew design, but it probably wouldn't cause as many sparks either.

[@Rezardus]

Wow. For trailmakers that's an awesome replica

[@moroblizniak4457]

Very enjoyable series! You tried to make actual tank track in TM? Also more DaVinci stuff would be neat

[@Non_Consistent_Potato]

The friction on the wood possibility leading to a fire and wind knocking it over would make it a poor transportation vehicle, but what it would be useful for is a transportable guard tower, and even then it would still suck and only used on not windy days

[@An_Anubis_76]

You should build a Da Vinci tank. That would be cool

[@theVolunteer24]

What happens if you put multiple screws in a drone/helicarrier layout? Opposite rotating to cancel out momentum? I’d love to see it

[@hmmm...gamerigess8165]

You should make a car that moves with peristalsis movement like a worm! I would love to see it! love the vids keep up the good work!

[@aguest8150]

A large amount of da Vinci’s inventions would work with just a small amount of modifications like his tank or his plane

[@Juansas03]

Mmm and what about a Screw-propelled vehicle, I don't think is going to work because of how physics in games work, but maybe is going to look cool idk xd