Cole V8 the 1st V8 with detachable cylinder heads

[@Cletrac305]

Great video. As my father, a farmer, and R&D engineer for a worldwide company said once "it's not my college degree that makes me an engineer, it was seeing a whole bunch of broken parts as a mechanic, and on the farm and while building my own tractors from a scrap pile!"

[@thomasozminkowski2589]

You have the best old car channel hands down! Its the only one i watch because of the great history and ads you show. I was here at the beginning and still really enjoying it.

[@What.its.like.]

The am you so much it really means a lot =)

[@kevinfleck-p8e]

Excellent video and really appreciate your bringing exposure to the Cole Motor Car Company engineering. The company slogan was 'There is a touch of tomorrow in all that we do today!'

[@What.its.like.]

Thanks Kevin it means a lot that you dig this episode =)

[@SteveLinney-w8q]

Another interesting well done video Jay try to catch all your videos thanks

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much for watching it took a couple days to put this one together =) One day we will do the Northway Oakland Oldsmobile and Cadillac engines I'm not sure weather to give each their own or do they all together

[@geebs76]

Interesting episode. I really enjoyed it. I'd choose the 1923 Cole Coupe.

[@johnboydTx]

Cole 2 seat flyer for me 😍 Great Styling... It's a shame 77 is all that are known 💔.. Great Episode Happy Motoring ✌️🤠

[@What.its.like.]

I know right there is one down at classic automall for sale

[@P_RO_]

Many years ago I saw a Cole while visiting a friend in Indy who was showing me the sights of the town. It was in a closed shop or museum somewhere downtown but I got a good view through the window. All he knew is that they were made in Indy, neither of us knew how rare they are or anything else about them. I had almost forgotten about that, glad this video reminded me. WYR I'll take the '24 Sedan.

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome thank you so much for sharing thats memory with us sweet choice

[@49VinCom]

Really Enjoyed this episode really interesting, great work, Thank you.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you happy you dig this one I love the ones with loads of history

[@randyrobey5643]

This is another interesting company about which I was totally ignorant.

[@What.its.like.]

Going to do northway Oakland Cadillac and Oldsmobile one day the 1st General Motors v8 engines

[@jeanlawson9133]

Ditto

[@ShopKatIndustries]

It never occurred to me that there was ever a V-8 with integrated heads!! How cool. The Cole Coupe is a beauty, but I have a big family so I'd have the 1924 sedan, please and thank-you!

[@hughwolfe1176]

Super fascinating story of an underdog manufacturer. Thank you for producing and sharing… Subscribed as your content looks great.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you so much happy you dig this channel welcome to the community =)

[@jameshodgson3758]

In about 1973 I ran across a V8 touring car in an old barn. It was a King and appeared to have an alloy overhead valve engine with exposed rocker arms. I remember the badge on the radiator said “King Motor Car Company Detroit Michigan. The automobile of no regrets.” I think they were made from about 1918 to 1922. A video on that company and engine would be appreciated.

[@What.its.like.]

Definitely going to cover king just found out about that v8 I'm waiting on information about ferro which made the v8 that Jackson wolverine used as well as briscoe and scripps-booth Thank you so much for that request also thank you so much for sharing those memories

[@don66hotrod94]

Wild Bill Endicott also drove for CASE. Another great video!

[@What.its.like.]

Great information =)

[@bparksiii6171]

Good episode on the Cole. Pick the 1923 Cole coupe. The Cole 860 you featured previous would look great along with the Franklin with the California top. 6.7 Ford diesel has the exhaust on top intake on bottom glad I dont have one, can't see the engine on that one

[@DSP1968]

I really enjoyed this engine episode, Jay. I'm not sure I've ever heard of the Cole.

[@What.its.like.]

Happy you dig this one =) got to cover a Cole last year would love to cover more

[@invisibilianone6288]

@@What.its.like. Was Cole the same person that had issues with Henry Ford, on copyright design on the flathead four cylinder engine? I m8ssed a great opportunity, to rebuild an old 4 door car, having IDENTICAL engine as the Ford flathead four cylinder engine. I've been trying to recall the name of the car. It had name, cast into the side of engine block. It may have been COLE. I believe there were just over 20 of the cars made. Thank you 😎☕

[@What.its.like.]

Cole made more than 20 cars so not sure

[@invisibilianone6288]

@@What.its.like. It could have been another name,,, I'm pretty sure the name was only 4 letters long. I made several attempts to gooooogle it, but that is usually an attempt in futility, with that company😁

[@carlmontney7916]

24 Cole sedan Thanks Jay for another great video about a not so well known auto maker. If you were to ask most people who made the first V8 engine they would tell you it was Ford. Not realizing that V8's had been around for many years before Henry put it his first one into the 32 Ford. All things considered I'm kind of surprised that there's 77 still around. I've heard of these but I have never seen one in the wild. I would like to that's for sure

[@What.its.like.]

Me too I would have thought more survive and it's possible more will be found it's a big world out there but also the war drives probably claimed a lot

[@swackerle]

The first American V8 would have been the 1905 Buffum. In 1904 they had a flat 8 race car. Not sure if you've covered it before, but I thought it was worth bringing up!

[@jeanlawson9133]

Buf....fum..... sounds bizarre though does it not

[@p.mfishing543]

How is it called a v8 if it’s flat?

[@swackerle]

@@p.mfishing543 in 1904 it was a flat 8 engine. Then in 1905 they raised each bank by 45 degrees to make a 90 degree v8.

[@p.mfishing543]

@@swackerle im 2 baked for this convo lol

[@neildorey3978]

The Buffum flat 8 was a one only race car that apparently never race, the 1905 V8 was possibly a one only produce car, no record of more and no patent that I can find on it either, from a photo it looks to be a L shape combustion chamber. Although this is a first American automobile to have a V8 it was not produce in any quantity.

[@JefferyHall-ct2tr]

Hi Jay! Thanks for the FINE presentation on COLE! Their V-8 was an interesting motor! I can't help but wonder why a lot of the early autos had updraft carbs. Even the Miller racing cars of the early to mid 1920's had multiple updraft carbs with LONG tuned intake stacks! The Cole I would pick for WYR would be that racy little coupe! Sweet!

[@What.its.like.]

Great choice I guess the use of draft carburetors to mitigate the risk of fuel being dumped into the engine while the vehicle wasn't in operation I found this article www.carburetor-parts.com/carburetor-parts-classic-cars?srsltid=AfmBOoo9EPsod5FwgWMSygpTOVPRZS3YuY1HJhv_s5zRT7MhFSjc7Ddn

[@terraplane49]

Glenn Curtiss? Many were fitted in cars pre-WW1. We have a few turn up at Old Warden every October. I know they're not detachable head models, but they are certainly pretty early.

[@Carstuff111]

I would love to have the 1923 Cole Coupe. All three look awesome, but the Coupe would fit my life style better.

[@saqibnawaz5139]

Neat hand as gets designing legend Cole when design is so gud sheer determination wid engine aspects wur kept at par wid industry if not mor a true artistic warrior & pioneers of moter industry vry industrious Cole da legend

[@thestevedoughtyshow27]

Jay, you mentioned Apperson, this is a name I know, Cole wasn't. In 1907 Apperson made a car called the jack rabbit. Two seats, four speed transmission and a top speed of 75 MPH. From what I understand the only car faster was the 1906 Stanley steamer at 126 MPH

[@What.its.like.]

I want to cover one so bad information doesn't exist or hard to find on the internet =) but one day lol

[@thestevedoughtyshow27]

@What.its.like. When I was a little boy, 1959, 1960. I had a book on old cars. In it was a French car that ran on a clock spring, the speed record of 126.27 set by the Stanley brothers in 1906. And the Apperson jack rabbit. It was a set of children books, maybe a starting point for a search. Yes, I'm an old car nut, too. Good luck Jay, it would make for a good video.

[@What.its.like.]

I want to cover one just not sure if it will be this year the goal is to cover at least one car from every manufacturer and tell the untold history of the companies where no car survived.. Bread and butter of this channel 1930-1964 but do cars outside those parameters =)

[@61rampy65]

Vey well done episode about a cool car that I only vaguely remember. I did know that they were considered luxury cars, but I sure did not know about it's V8 engine. It would be so interesting and fun to be able to drive one! WYR= any of them, but the 23 coupe would be best, but not in that god-awful baby blue color. Great video, Jay!

[@What.its.like.]

I got to do one last year at greenfield village the owner of that one has a lot of Cole's it sucked I didn't get to do one of his this year, I took my family to the village and spent most of my time there with them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKWyhHyQaLZ_Y5Isi=4kF4vEHDq1aoqwzA Happy you dig this episode

[@ihockey0117]

I am actually the owner of that coupe that car was actually a very special car designed to test the new suspension as well as test the new balloon tires which is basically the modern tire we use today jj Cole was very close friends with Harvey Firestone so they worked out a deal to make a car to test the new tire technology. the car was shown at the new York auto show and we actually have a letter from Thomas Edison talking about the car in which he wrote to Henry ford asking them to use balloon tires as well. I have the original title from 23 even though it was built in 22 it was not given to the son of the company until he graduated from Harvard as a gift to him. I know it looks blue in photos but the car is actually painted in the original color of the car which was called tuxedo grey with black pin striping and hand buffed Spanish black leather. Although an interesting side note we have a news paper from 22-23 from San Francisco and this very well known doctor at the time had purchased this same model and this particular model was always made to the customers order and he chose a green alligator skin interior for the car now I would have loved to see how that looked in person. I’m hoping we can set something up so he can film some of our other cole cars next time he is in Michigan I truly appreciate him posting these videos and spreading awareness of those awesome company. Thank you to you as well for watching to learn also no worries for not liking the color I just wanted to let you know it was the original color of the car when it was gifted to the son of the companies founder. I’m very passionate about this company I can talk about the cars all day long 😂

[@61rampy65]

@@ihockey0117 Cool! Thanks for the info on the history of your car. I still don't like the color, but, then, I don't own that car, do I? I would still love to drive it!

[@What.its.like.]

@@ihockey0117 thank you so much, for sharing all of that insights and information. I wasn’t sure if this was part of your collection. I’ve seen a couple of Kevin’s Cole’s I still feel really bad that I didn’t get back and see him at the Greenfield Village.. I was trying to meet up with some other people and juggle some stuff and then my wife wanted to leave so I had to take them back to the hotel. I didn’t get to do a whole Lotta cars there this year which was a bummer but there is always next year =)

[@61rampy65]

@@ihockey0117 OK, I just watched Jay's episode on the blue Cole from a year ago. I read your comment from then. Was that your car too? After seeing the video, I'd take that ultra-cool model over the coupe! I love that the door pillars can be folded up or down, and the driving sequence looked like it drives very nicely and smoothly.

[@dmandman9]

I’d love to see the inside of an engine without detachable cylinder heads. I’m trying to visualize the design and imagine how they’d be repaired.

[@LuciFeric137]

Offenhauser had the the same layout. One of the greatest engines of all time. No head gaskets to blow.

[@dmandman9]

@@LuciFeric137 maybe someone can do a video of a tear down of one of these head gasket less engines. I’d love to see one

[@josnagels8038]

Leyland BMC made a OHV cast block with non detachable head for commercial applications. Also may have featured OHC. These were excellent long life motors and I saw one in 1990’s dismantled in a (NZ)machine shop for valve grind and new pistons. Valve seats and valves were serviced from bottom of bore while crank and pistons out. Despite the motor having done over 25 years use in a road grader then, the owner spent good money rebuilding it to new because of its outstanding trouble free operation compared to conventional detachable cylinder head motors in similar machines. It was fascinating to view this unusual motor, in retrospect, should have taken photo!

[@ronnieroberts9478]

Good video thank you

[@What.its.like.]

=) happy you dig this one

[@mikelovin7]

You should do one on the 1916-18 Chevrolet overhead valve V8 with removable heads. 👍🏻

[@What.its.like.]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGmsmHqhqZ6LY80si=pQVJ_o3Mgiqela-u

[@mikelovin7]

@@What.its.like. Okay thanks, I was looking for that, but didn't find it.

[@neildorey3978]

The Chev V8 was 1917-18

[@stephenholland5930]

Excellent video, Jay. I can't say I was aware of the make, but they seemed to produce some quality motor cars.

[@What.its.like.]

Thank you happy you dig this video

[@loyalUSguy]

Sorta always thought all "cylinder heads" were detachable by definition. Otherwise, it's all cylinder block? Good video.

[@davewallace8219]

My head....is detachable as well!

[@theorenhobart]

excellent vid ! sub'd great balance between technical and highlights. really shocked to learn they built the first 'modern' v8

[@What.its.like.]

It's a really cool lost and mostly forgotten engine that is for sure. Welcome to the community =)

[@philipingram1667]

KT Keller also spent time at Cole when he could not find work with Chrysler - he was recalled when Chrysler became a going concern and the rest is history....

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome information

[@Wiencourager]

KT keller later became head of Chrysler

[@gilbertnowak5770]

After Cole went belly-up that model V-8 became the Cadilac engine!

[@What.its.like.]

I think Cadillac copied it the very next year

[@donaldwiller9238]

Great information 1924 cole Hay did you find information on the republic motor car company of Hamilton ohio?

[@What.its.like.]

No not yet republic is a hard one to find information on

[@73_f100]

Awesome video as always. We, your subscribers, need to figure out how to grow your audience. Stick with it! You are doing great work.

[@What.its.like.]

=) I love you all your like family thank you so much happy you dig this community

[@gregnaffin9534]

1917 Chevrolet had a V 8 with overhead valves. It was a model D 1917 -1919.

[@What.its.like.]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGmsmHqhqZ6LY80si=-2-SVjYNjn05dhRs

[@musicauthority674]

But they didn't have a pressurerized oiling system. requiring the owners to use an oil can to lubricate the valvetrain. when they would stop driving which was often back then.

[@rustychrome]

I never realized until now, you mean the Wright Bros went on to manufacture planes based on their original? I had no idea.

[@loyalUSguy]

Sunshine Superman. Donovan?

[@Frank-sf1wh]

I never heard of the Cole, it looks like a well designed car. So I would rather have the coupe.

[@70galaxie]

fascinating

[@reddiamond8834]

Ive sat in 2 of the 3 coles shown at The end of the vid

[@drewdemien481]

Look for a rv show called my mother the car. Might be some episodes online somewhere

[@kennethrine8171]

LOL I live in Rockford ILLINOIS

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome

[@thekekronomicon590]

25k in 1907 is 9 million today

[@1936Studebaker]

Cole Coupe

[@williamjmansfield8768]

Would choose the sedan.

[@What.its.like.]

Sweet choice

[@williamvolkmann8658]

What about the very rare Chevy V8, that they made in the early 1900's

[@What.its.like.]

This one? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGmsmHqhqZ6LY80si=pB3RIQ-Q3M7p2jOW

[@kennethwers]

Pressurized oil system. That way ahead of GM.

[@What.its.like.]

Way ahead of just about everybody

[@drcool-rf4yn]

America 1st v-8 was 1907 Hewitt

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome thank you so much for that information. I'll have to look into early v8 history

[@whattheflux2733]

Toodaloooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@tork62077]

1924 Cole sedan

[@JamesSmith-ph7sp]

The dark 1924

[@williamgunter6801]

1923 coupe.

[@bobmccurdy8881]

23 coupe

[@KennyDodge-of2sp]

1924 model

[@JamesAllmond]

24 Cole

[@Tank-n7t]

24sedan.

[@What.its.like.]

Sweet choice

[@markchandler1130]

1924

[@What.its.like.]

Sweet choice =)

[@thetman0068]

0:45 this picture goes really hard.

[@What.its.like.]

I love that picture I think the other two were standing

[@kevinfleck-p8e]

@@What.its.like. It was two mounted side seats on the running board. I couldnt actually imagine riding in those side seats on a fast drive!

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome thank you so much for that information I totally forgot about the pull out seats that image was awesome =) I so happy to find it

[@reddiamond8834]

Ive sat in 2 of the 3 coles shown at The end of the vid

[@reddiamond8834]

Ive sat in 2 of the 3 coles shown at The end of the vid

[@What.its.like.]

Awesome