Coleman CT200U-EX minibike Predator 212 engine swap / Top speed

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Black66

Black66

3 жыл бұрын

Coleman CT200U-EX minibike predator 212 engine swap / Top speed
Swapped out the 196cc engine from the Coleman CT200U-EX minibike for a modified predator 212 to see what difference the Predator would make to the top speed.
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Parts used in this build -
ARC.020 billet rod - www.arcracing.com/6256-billet...
ARC billet flywheel - www.arcracing.com/6695-predat...
GX 160 head - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01...
VM22 Mikuni carburetor - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
Header pipe - www.ebay.com/itm/273555452026...
3/4 shaft clutch - www.ebay.com/itm/313092339316...
Riser mount - www.ebay.com/itm/153979950963
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@heathenprojects2639
@heathenprojects2639 3 жыл бұрын
Mad scientist at work again I'm wondering if you ran a 16 Inch tire instead of Coleman 19 inch if you would pick up a few more mph food for thought
@anthonygendron5648
@anthonygendron5648 3 жыл бұрын
Smaller tire would give a lower top speed but better acceleration
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
I need one of those scientist lab coats lol. LIke Anthony Gendron said it would give it lower top speed and better acceleration. My little blue bike with those five-inch wheels spins up quick!
@Mr123pbd
@Mr123pbd 3 жыл бұрын
i got a coleman with 20" tires 38t and 10t and im hiting 55 tucked on flat
@heathenprojects2639
@heathenprojects2639 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 that would be hilarious put on the back of the lab coat Black66 academy of speed
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@heathenprojects2639 It would !🤣
@NVScrapper
@NVScrapper 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and good work showing the comparisons on the mods you did to that bike. Keep me coming!
@TheAverageG4mer
@TheAverageG4mer 2 жыл бұрын
Hey brother I just wanna say I really appreciate you I stumbled upon a couple of your videos because my wife wants to buy me this bike just a commute from home to work, I’ve watched all the videos to do the upgrades and I’m gonna buy one next week on my birthday I really appreciate your videos I subscribe to you!!
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate that. Glad the videos help you.
@Farmtractor
@Farmtractor 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Please continue making videos on this bike!
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! I have more coming
@Farmtractor
@Farmtractor 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 looking forward to it 👍
@teshuvahemmet3036
@teshuvahemmet3036 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for the info 👍😁
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! If you haven't checked it the CT200U-EX playlist already ,check it out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@emoya319
@emoya319 2 жыл бұрын
Nice man I just picked up a Coleman 200 uex I am in love just gotta install my go power sports parts 😎
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Nice bike!! I bet you will really like it . It’s a smooth riding bike
@Guido19
@Guido19 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@tashatorrid
@tashatorrid 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, remember I mentioned the two VM's being different? I was going crazy not being able to tune them and finally figured out the needle jet was completely different and I had left it on the cable when I swapped it initially. Hours wasted but a learning experience
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Cool, you can use that carb now. I'm always doing stuff like that. I should do a blooper reel LOL
@tashatorrid
@tashatorrid 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 I'm loving the Nibbi but may put the VM to use on the other project if it even gets started. I think a blooper reel would be fun, but I'd advise against it. Stay sterling. You've earned it
@albertpeterson7134
@albertpeterson7134 3 жыл бұрын
Iam New To Your Channel. And Enjoy All The Content. Keep It Coming
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Ill keep it coming.
@locklearperformancessmalle4032
@locklearperformancessmalle4032 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos the teach me a lot
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@locklearperformancessmalle4032
@locklearperformancessmalle4032 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 How fast could I get the bike
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@locklearperformancessmalle4032 into the 50's or 60's . Check out the play list for the CT200U-EX kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@rayo2846
@rayo2846 2 жыл бұрын
Great video I’m trying to swap out a 196cc with a 224 but what u called the Jack shaft kit is hitting on new motor can I get a different gear for it or do I need it that Jack for the 200ex coleman
@evantjones2153
@evantjones2153 2 жыл бұрын
I’m doing 22 lb springs and a vm 22 carb with a 17.5 pilot and a 125 jet. 212 predator on same frame. Along with a upgraded exhaust. Still trying to figure out sprocket ratio. Mind me asking what’s your weight. Building this one for my brother and he’s 140 pounds lol
@mylandbristow6854
@mylandbristow6854 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this video bro now need a jugernot tourqe converter
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
I put a juggernaut on the doodlebug. It's a beast! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5q7aJmIiJ6Xrbc
@mylandbristow6854
@mylandbristow6854 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 yeah I saw that that thing moves👍
@Chevy_Guy
@Chevy_Guy Жыл бұрын
How did you wire the headlight?
@axelabaj9661
@axelabaj9661 Жыл бұрын
good job black66 can you let me know how do you wire up the conections for head light and switch.can you help me please. than you for your exelent videos.
@namericanprepper4648
@namericanprepper4648 Жыл бұрын
I need help guys.. I got a axis mb200... If the predator is it a few CCs higher why change.. ???
@user-zt3sr4kw1h
@user-zt3sr4kw1h Жыл бұрын
Soo how do I swap the predator with it? Is it pretty direct or what extra part do I need? I’m new to bike modding
@robertjennings8259
@robertjennings8259 9 ай бұрын
wait what is the riser mount for? the link doesnt exist anymore
@tashatorrid
@tashatorrid 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good looking bike
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Ya, I like that bike. It's smooth going down the road.
@tashatorrid
@tashatorrid 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 looks like it would be great for the trails
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@tashatorrid Ya, I think it would be. That bike is a beast. It feels heavy
@tashatorrid
@tashatorrid 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 yeah, I don't think much thought other than price point and marketability went into these little toys of ours. I've been into bicycles most of my life and couldn't believe how easy it was to drop about 1/4 of the weight off most bikes although it wasn't very affordable
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@tashatorrid That’s so true . Wonder how much they do make on one of these things ?
@jamesa6272
@jamesa6272 6 ай бұрын
Nice. Thinking about getting this Coleman frame. I have a streaker and a older frame with the 212 on it. If I don’t put all my weight forward it just does wheelies. Is this bike the same way? A wheelie monster ?
@Black66
@Black66 6 ай бұрын
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist . I have many engine and part combos on this bike kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHnJaqyAosaNgqM
@wire4117
@wire4117 7 ай бұрын
i see that the clutch is pushed up against the jackshaft pretty snug.. did you not put any sort of collar for the shaft? i put like two washers on mine and my clutch is poking out a little so the bolt isn’t going in all the way
@Black66
@Black66 7 ай бұрын
I have done so many videos with the CT200U-EX it's hard to remember a given combo. Check out the playlist for many engine and part combos with this bike. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHnJaqyAosaNgqM
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I would like to see that with a tach on the bike. Had to be at least 7500 RPM with that gearing and MPH.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Ya, it was screaming for sure!
@Guardian25118
@Guardian25118 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I’m new to this whole mini bike thing, I’ve gotten the same bike you have and your videos have been a huge help upgrading my bike. I do have a question, have you or can you explain how to run the kill switch wire?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I run a kill switch about three minutes into this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3axY32lZdyaeJI
@zoboy2440
@zoboy2440 2 жыл бұрын
I have a predator 212 I installed and the chain is vibrating very hard
@anicekid
@anicekid Жыл бұрын
​@@zoboy2440 tension and oul
@mattl7345
@mattl7345 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos. I'm looking at doing the Predator 212 swap on my Coleman CT200U-EX and wondering what parts I'll need for it or where you can direct me to figure it all out. Thank you!!!
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty direct swap . The only main difference was the 16mm shaft to the 3/4 shaft on the Predator for the clutch. . Not sure if you looked at the CT200U playlist. we have tried a lot of different stuff on this bike along the way.kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@lbgaming9539
@lbgaming9539 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 im looking at the Max-Torque Brand 3 quarter clutch and its asking me how many teeth, 10-16, would you know how many i should get?
@namericanprepper4648
@namericanprepper4648 Жыл бұрын
But y.. if the pred is only 15 cc higher
@TheofficialJaxtonsOutdoors
@TheofficialJaxtonsOutdoors Ай бұрын
Hi I’m taking my stock motor out to get the 212 in I was wondering what size you used to get those bolts out at 2:28
@Black66
@Black66 Ай бұрын
5/16x24, You can get the kit at GoPowerSports or Amazon
@carsonnadolny9652
@carsonnadolny9652 2 жыл бұрын
What was the brand for your riser mount? Do you have a link? Doing the predator engine swap this weekend after watching these videos
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
The link is in the description
@spikemandan
@spikemandan 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I couldn't help but notice but I have the exact same bike and I did the exact same thing you did but when you went to go put the clutch back on there's a spacer behind the clutch did you go to the hardware store and find a 3/4 bore spacer or did you do what I did take the one off the stock engine cutting notch in it and resize it
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
I have an assortment of washers lying around I use
@spikemandan
@spikemandan 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 still what I did wasn't a bad idea either
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@spikemandan No it wasn't. If I didn't have these washers lying around I would have done the same thing you did.
@trecain512
@trecain512 2 жыл бұрын
What app do you use for speed testing? I cant find one that works well for me.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
I use digHUD for the phone and I also use a Dragy performance meter for zero to thirty times
@lbgaming9539
@lbgaming9539 2 жыл бұрын
the only extra part you need for this swap is a 3 quarter clutch? every other part including the chain and all that work fine with it?
@jamesgo6517
@jamesgo6517 2 жыл бұрын
great question hopefully someone can confirm
@ryanhitt7657
@ryanhitt7657 Жыл бұрын
Yup! Drops in
@bradygainey8043
@bradygainey8043 Жыл бұрын
Do you think the 212 and the tork converter would fit with out moving the gas can and you’d still be Abel to fuel up
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many combos with this bike. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@Everlastandgreen
@Everlastandgreen 2 жыл бұрын
Dont you need something to separate the clutch from touching the metal that protects the engine?
@9wrld9leaks97
@9wrld9leaks97 Жыл бұрын
Yes, a spacer but I did not see him use one 🤔
@jordanlogan923
@jordanlogan923 4 ай бұрын
Hey just curious what size jets you running in that carb and what elevation you’re at.
@Black66
@Black66 4 ай бұрын
Here is the 196 jet video on this bike. It really depends on the set up but usually in the smaller engines, I will run a 110 or 115 main at this elevation. kzbin.info/www/bejne/raG3kJimabaXeJo
@slept-on_SP
@slept-on_SP 2 жыл бұрын
So all you need for a swap is the larger 3/4" c-clutch to match the larger drive shaft and the rest bolts up the same? I have an extra pz28 mikuni clone as well.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, everything bolts up. Like you said. You do need the 3/4 clutch for the shaft on the predator.
@slept-on_SP
@slept-on_SP 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 Just watched your other video on the 212 with the chain driven shaft and holy hell that thing got up there quick lol.. Them predator engines are frickin solid man and for such a low price too.
@Everlastandgreen
@Everlastandgreen 2 жыл бұрын
I installed my predator non hemi and mikuni carb and full throttled it and it blew up in like 5 seconds. Any idea why? Do I need modded billet rods and inside governor removal so it wont blow up at high speeds?
@chevyfeltz8788
@chevyfeltz8788 28 күн бұрын
Uh yes bro
@austinanderson9962
@austinanderson9962 Жыл бұрын
You prob won’t answer but I’m doing the same exact thing. Wondering if you had to get different chains or if the original chains worked. When I go to buy the clutch it comes with a 3ft chain but idk if I need to buy the shorter chain. If you see this or anyone sees this and knows I would appreciate if you would let me know. Thanks
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
The original chain works with the Predator swap as long as you are using the jackshaft.
@austinanderson9962
@austinanderson9962 Жыл бұрын
@@Black66 okay thanks that’s what I was wondering. Appreciate it
@CoolingSoda
@CoolingSoda Жыл бұрын
How did you hook up your headlight with the 212?
@jeron9272
@jeron9272 6 ай бұрын
Need a lighting coil
@dwaynebowman2175
@dwaynebowman2175 4 ай бұрын
We're did you get your gas tank and 40 tooth rear sprocket feom
@Black66
@Black66 3 ай бұрын
Links for the parts used are in some of the video descriptions.
@robertlopez3249
@robertlopez3249 2 жыл бұрын
On that mini bike can you run with just one chain instead of 2 chains on the predator motor
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I removed the jack shaft. Just running a clutch on it for now.
@NBProductions2023
@NBProductions2023 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah man, i want to make my bike just like yours! What should I pick up?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the playlist for this bike. The parts are listed in the description of a lot of the videos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@NBProductions2023
@NBProductions2023 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 you’re the man! Thank you boss !
@rodrick9529
@rodrick9529 3 жыл бұрын
Hi it would be great if u can list all the item in the video like the link to the engine and the other items that u did just to install the engine thank you
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll have to do that .
@bradcarpenter2396
@bradcarpenter2396 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a mini bike store close by? Or what?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
No, I order pretty much everything on line for the bikes.
@namericanprepper4648
@namericanprepper4648 Жыл бұрын
Why switch to a predator 212.. if yours already got 200 cc .. what's the difference 12 cc??? I don't get it. Help. I just got axis mb200.. and I'm tryna figure out why would I spend that much more money for 12cc
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
The channel is about amongst other things different part combos along with full builds and testing the results. Check out the playlist for many different engine combos. Thanks for watching! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@ericyuriar9055
@ericyuriar9055 2 жыл бұрын
I got a question if you got an ultra light flywheel do you gotta have a cam in it?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Ya, you can run a billet flywheel and more timing with the stock cam. The billet flywheels have more timing built-in.
@ericyuriar9055
@ericyuriar9055 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 okay cool thank you, also I don’t know if ur having the same problem as I am but the kickback when pulling it is crazy
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericyuriar9055 Ya, seems like that engine has really good compression
@mlindsay527
@mlindsay527 2 жыл бұрын
Valves may be out of adjustment.
@blackdrag450r
@blackdrag450r 3 жыл бұрын
Do u have a video on what u did with the gas tank?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
yes, I think it’s coming out in a week or so .
@Christian-ve9vb
@Christian-ve9vb 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same lol
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@Christian-ve9vb Maybe , Ive thought about it
@johnny1902
@johnny1902 Ай бұрын
How far do you get
@robertlopez3249
@robertlopez3249 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have to put your key on the shaft to put the clutch cause when I crank it on the shaft is moving I have a max torque clutch with mikuni carb and I changed that the jet to 115 I can't figure out why as soon as I turn on it takes off any help
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure you have the bushing lubed on the clutch. If it's not lubed it sometimes will bind and catch as soon as it is started. Make sure the engine isn't idling too high.
@robertlopez3249
@robertlopez3249 2 жыл бұрын
Ok going to do that what kind of lube do I need
@altezzagarage9341
@altezzagarage9341 Жыл бұрын
So the clutch for the old motor won’t fit on a predator ?
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
The 196 has a 16MM shaft. At least the later ones. You can buy an adapter. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. I use an adapter on some of the videos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@rudyromero9144
@rudyromero9144 Жыл бұрын
Can I ask you something ? What if my jack shaft didn’t come off as easy as yours did ? My little one came off quick but the one on the left is like stuck
@nestoramirez87
@nestoramirez87 Жыл бұрын
I'm having the same issue. Did you ever get it off?
@greengarage5682
@greengarage5682 2 жыл бұрын
Can I ride mine without the jackshaft I picked up a powerfist engine and the bolt pattern is different
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the playlist on this bike for all the different combos. One is straight chained kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@greengarage5682
@greengarage5682 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment back so quick will check it out,
@vampz66
@vampz66 11 ай бұрын
What gas tank you have installed?
@Black66
@Black66 11 ай бұрын
Here is the gas tank video. Also check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many more combos with this bike kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGi4kGN9nKx_pMk
@JulianGuevaraphoto
@JulianGuevaraphoto Жыл бұрын
How did you wire the head light? I’m not sure how to set that up.
@mr.roboto7330
@mr.roboto7330 Жыл бұрын
That’s what my question is also because once you swap the 196 for the predator you lose the lights? That’s what my cousin told me because he swapped his.
@ponygeneral8938
@ponygeneral8938 Жыл бұрын
What cam is in the 212?
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
We have run many different cams in the 212. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGi4kGN9nKx_pMk
@AsTheWheelsTurn
@AsTheWheelsTurn 3 ай бұрын
you hit one bump with that thing going that speed and you are toast.I have two of these and they just about break your back going over a small pothole at 20 mph so I cant even imagine how unstable and unsafe it is to go 55 on it....why?....what is the point?
@Black66
@Black66 3 ай бұрын
The point is having fun with mini bikes. That is what the channel is about. Check the playlist , getting close to 400 mini bike videos. We have suspension bikes, street bikes and pretty much everything in between. Everyone is different and has different tastes. I say just have fun whatever your taste. I don't take this stuff to seriously its just a hobby.
@l.a.m7645
@l.a.m7645 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Black on the 200 ex bike I got torque converter with engine riser but I don't want to cut the chain guard brackets do u think the engine plate would work without cutting chain guard bracket?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Ya, all that stuff should bolt on there with the riser mount . I just did one myself on the 200 . With the riser mount everything bolted on without any fabrication . The only thing I had to do was shorten the chain .
@l.a.m7645
@l.a.m7645 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 does the engine riser give you play to move engine forward or back. Also do you have room for gas tank to put gas in?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@l.a.m7645 Yes , it gives you plenty of adjustment forward and back . It’s a really nice mount . Yes, on a CT200 you have plenty of room for the gas tank
@l.a.m7645
@l.a.m7645 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I just ordered the green spring for torque converter and I will remove the red one out and I will put it in the 3rd hole as well
@l.a.m7645
@l.a.m7645 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Black what size gap should I set my valve springs exhaust side and intake side for a Predator 212? Should I go with 18# or 22lb# valve springs with stock cam and rods?
@mbarnes931
@mbarnes931 2 жыл бұрын
What did u do for the gas tank?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
It's on there. LOL, You just can't see it. I have a video coming out Wednesday.
@beausbargarage6213
@beausbargarage6213 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I’m gonna mod mine lol
@beausbargarage6213
@beausbargarage6213 2 жыл бұрын
I just zip tied the governor Much faster I wonder if I’m getting valve float
@masongt6546
@masongt6546 Жыл бұрын
What carb do you Use?
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
I have used many different carbs and combos with this bike. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. Thanks for watching! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@roypatterson9910
@roypatterson9910 3 жыл бұрын
What did you do, did you mash your thumb? It looks like it.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! and it hurt for like a month! lol I smashed it when I was doing the Micro bike video
@joejoerrrjoejoerrr8512
@joejoerrrjoejoerrr8512 2 жыл бұрын
How much would you say all of the parts to get it up to 50 mph cost
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the playlist for this bike, we have tried many different combos . I guess it depends if you want to do it with the 196 or the 212 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@locklearperformancessmalle4032
@locklearperformancessmalle4032 2 жыл бұрын
Just got one with 22lb spring how fast u think it will run without governor and 22 mikuni card
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
If you live at a lower altitude than me, I think it could be a little faster than this one. The 212 Predator in this video had 22lb springs also
@locklearperformancessmalle4032
@locklearperformancessmalle4032 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 think u
@boostedchalo6066
@boostedchalo6066 2 жыл бұрын
Hey bud, so I just got my coleman all stock engine except for the carb and header pipe it is a 212cc predator hemi. But I went ahead and did a straight chain but now I lost mph and it stutters and it just doesn't pick up. With the jack shaft it did 38 mph and it would pickup great. But now that it's straight chain it lost power big time, not only that but sparks comes out of the clutch Any insight? Thanks!
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
If you are a heavier rider you might have to throw a bigger sprocket on the back to regain some of the low end. Doesn't sound like it has the torque to pull the bike into the power band of the engine with the big tires and higher gear ratio. Also, with the bigger sprocket it will be easier on the clutch. Straight chain usually will work great for a small or light rider because the bike will have enough torque to pull someone small even with the higher gear ratio.
@boostedchalo6066
@boostedchalo6066 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 I do have the smaller sprocket installed on the bike that you used on a previous video for sure. That makes sense. However with the jack shaft I run out of engine really quick it only goes 38mph and my engine runs out of rpm super quick. My friend with a 196cc smaller sproket, carb and header pipe his bike is doing 43.6mph and his limiter is loooong if that makes sense. But my 212 predator with carb, header pipe and smaller sproket it hits limiters super quick. The acceleration is instant but my top end just runs out. Would you recommend a better cam for that?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@boostedchalo6066 If you have stock Predator valve springs, a cam and springs will for sure make all the difference.
@boostedchalo6066
@boostedchalo6066 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thank you so much for the input and responding. Love the videos man. Keep it up really enjoy watching the mods!👌🏽
@l.a.m7645
@l.a.m7645 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Black should I go with a Tillotson engine over a Predator? Also does the stage 1 kit intake and header pipe compatible with the Tillotson?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
The Tillotson is built better. But the Predator will do just fine too. lol I guess it depends on how much you want to spend. If I was going to do an all-out build, I for sure would build the Tillotson. Stronger block. Ya, you can do a stage one on a Tilly.
@l.a.m7645
@l.a.m7645 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 Did u do a Tilly vs predator engine speed video?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@l.a.m7645 Yes I did . Let me look to see when I have it coming out .
@l.a.m7645
@l.a.m7645 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 Oh great on the Camo 200 would be great us big guys can't ride those little 100s lol
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@l.a.m7645 Oh ya for sure! I know what you're saying. That big bike is nice.
@sencxre
@sencxre 2 жыл бұрын
where did you get that modified motor
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Built it. Check out the playlist for the build and many combos this bike has had. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@koyotekev5082
@koyotekev5082 2 жыл бұрын
will this setup be safe for long periods of wide open throttle?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
So far so good. Check out the playlist for this bike. It has had many different combos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@koyotekev5082
@koyotekev5082 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 can i contact you in some way? i just swapped my 196 for a 212 but i’m having some problems
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@koyotekev5082 Email is best
@Deonn.1
@Deonn.1 2 жыл бұрын
what size jet do you have in that mukini?
@Deonn.1
@Deonn.1 2 жыл бұрын
@black66 ?
@bradcarpenter2396
@bradcarpenter2396 2 жыл бұрын
How did you advance the timing on the CT200UEX ?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
The inexpensive way is to use a timing key. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. There is a video in the list where I advance the timing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@bradcarpenter2396
@bradcarpenter2396 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 I was thinking about advancing the timing, but parts joints charge an arm and a leg for shipping and I'm on a fixed income.
@bradcarpenter2396
@bradcarpenter2396 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reply. I learn a lot from your shows keep them up.
@christainjimenez278
@christainjimenez278 3 ай бұрын
We’re did you find the clutch
@Black66
@Black66 3 ай бұрын
I usually put the links to the parts in the description of the videos. Check out the CT200U=EX for many engine and part combos with this bike kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHnJaqyAosaNgqM
@christainjimenez278
@christainjimenez278 3 ай бұрын
@@Black66 thank you so much
@anthonykirkpatrick5650
@anthonykirkpatrick5650 Жыл бұрын
Where can I find the engine and the name of it
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Harbor freight. Predator 212
@markparker5451
@markparker5451 2 жыл бұрын
Needs a torque converter...makes a big difference on mine.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the play list for this bike. Its had quite a few different combos kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@npb3871
@npb3871 2 жыл бұрын
What mph would it do with a stock predator 212?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
A totally stock and governed Predator I'm guessing not much faster than the 196cc
@813.smokey2
@813.smokey2 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 what about a governed 212 with a stage 1
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@813.smokey2 That governor holds it back . Take that governor off and add some 18lb springs if it doesnt have them already , and that predator will move out really good!
@rickbarrera788
@rickbarrera788 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I get that carb ??
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
The link for the carburetor is in the description
@glennguerra2326
@glennguerra2326 Жыл бұрын
I wish you could work on my bike. I’m after power not speed tho
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. There are many different combos on there. Thanks for watching kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@thomastaylor6511
@thomastaylor6511 2 жыл бұрын
your doing a top speed run without a proper break-in period
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yup! wide open the first run out.! And soon after the governor was taken off and a header pipe with a VM22 carburetor and a 7-degree flywheel key was added and we ran it even harder! Wide-open most of the time. This bike has been a test mule straight out of the box and still runs perfect! Great bike! Check out my other videos
@thomastaylor6511
@thomastaylor6511 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 must be nice to have enough money to play like that
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomastaylor6511 Not really about the money . We like testing things . With this bike We found out that you can take a Brand new Coleman bike and run it beyond hard right out of the box and it will run amazing even 8 months later . I’m totally surprised that 196 is that durable . Great engine !
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
This engine still has the governor wheel inside the case .This was another thing we wanted to test . We wanted to see how a 196 would hold up with out even opening up the case to take out the governor wheel . Totally stock internals . But at the same time add a carb header pipe and timing .
@kenny352100
@kenny352100 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of chain u use for your 212cc motor
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
RLV gold on gold
@kenny352100
@kenny352100 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 sorry to bother u but is it a particular size I need or just rlv gold on gold?. By the way I love your vids
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
​@@kenny352100 If your doing a 212 swap on a Coleman CT200U-EX you can use the stock chain. No need for gold on gold. Sorry about that. For some reason I thought you were using 35 chain.
@kenny352100
@kenny352100 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 no sir but I really appreciate that info keep making vids
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenny352100 Thanks! Thanks for watching the videos.
@robertlopez3249
@robertlopez3249 2 жыл бұрын
How many teeth did the clutch have
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
10 tooth clutch
@mannyrodriguez9293
@mannyrodriguez9293 2 жыл бұрын
If I buy a predator would I need engine risers for a torque converter
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, easy swap with an engine riser .
@mannyrodriguez9293
@mannyrodriguez9293 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 where could I get a vm carb for the predator motor and engine riser?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@mannyrodriguez9293 I put the link to most of the parts in the description. I think I have the link to the riser mount in my other videos on the CT200U-EX or the CT200U videos
@mannyrodriguez9293
@mannyrodriguez9293 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 will u drop a link for a engine riser for the ct200u-ex
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@mannyrodriguez9293 I’m pretty sure I put a link in the description on one of the CT200U-EX videos
@somuchjuice5528
@somuchjuice5528 2 жыл бұрын
45mph on a stock internal 196cc?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! actually faster than that. Check out the playlist kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@demarcoedwards1102
@demarcoedwards1102 3 жыл бұрын
So what’s all in it?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Ill have to put that stuff in the description but it has a 265 cam with 22lb springs a GX160 head a billet rod, a billet flywheel, and the Mikuni and the header pipe.
@robpena4275
@robpena4275 2 жыл бұрын
Straight chain it and turn the clutch around you'll hit 60 easy.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Check out my other videos
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
We are wanting it to be faster but at the same time have decent torque
@Spacecruizer203
@Spacecruizer203 3 жыл бұрын
lil chain greese on theslide never hurt i guess !!!!
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
It made it go 53 MPH LOL
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Its a beast!
@Spacecruizer203
@Spacecruizer203 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 hell yea 54 is dope
@Spacecruizer203
@Spacecruizer203 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 u can jump on that thing an creep up like a fricin ninja and bam!!!!
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@Spacecruizer203 Only because of the grease on the slide !😂
@maxstephenson1968
@maxstephenson1968 3 жыл бұрын
Where you line I live in Mississippi
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Arizona
@albertpeterson7134
@albertpeterson7134 3 жыл бұрын
Are Going To Have Merch.?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
I thought about it . I have design in mind . Maybe. It’s Cool you guys are interested in something like that .
@albertpeterson7134
@albertpeterson7134 3 жыл бұрын
That Would Be Real Cool. One Of My Favorite Builds You Did Was The Pink Micro Bike Engine Swap With The Coleman CC100x 3hp
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@albertpeterson7134 Thanks! Tried to get the smallest bike I could fit on. lol
@josiejones83
@josiejones83 3 жыл бұрын
Link me with the carb you running plz
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
It's the knock-off carb. here is the link VM22 Mikuni carburetor www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JHKB9CF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@josiejones83
@josiejones83 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thank you 😊
@eyehearther111
@eyehearther111 3 жыл бұрын
Still think the predators better.
@heathenprojects2639
@heathenprojects2639 3 жыл бұрын
I like it when he goes from slightly stock to predator then pulls that Tilly out bang for buck predator get it done but Tilly that's were it the fun begins been playing with a wildcat mild stage 2 I'm not 💯 on what I want to mount it on tho
@landonvidaure2290
@landonvidaure2290 3 жыл бұрын
0-30??
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Ill have to get one going on that
@toddperry9860
@toddperry9860 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure your neighbors love you zipping in front of their residential homes at 52 miles an hour in the neighborhood???
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, they come out and visit me. I have a good rapport with all the neighbors
@serviceproper
@serviceproper Жыл бұрын
Not a diy for the rest of us…
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