Coleman Powermate Pulse 1850 Generator Surging Carburetor Cleaning and Repair

I picked up this Colman Powermate Pulse 1850 recently. The story was it was surging when last run over a year ago. Watch as I clean out the carburetor and replace several tune-up items including, fuel lines, fuel filter, and the recoil rope. May also apply to the Coleman Powermate Sport and Coleman Powermate 1850 Max Series generators.
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[@billsmith5960]

Those are good generators. I bought one brand new on clearance at Wal Mart back around 2003 for $140. I use it for racing where we need power in the pits. Then friends have borrowed it for when the power goes out. A few things I have found: 1. the fuel shutoff failed about 6 months down the road (it came apart and drained the gas all over my trailer). I put in a splice and it's that way today. No filter, no shutoff. 2. It fell over in the trailer and all of the oil ran out of the crank vent about 15 years ago. A crew guy never told me or even checked the oil. It ran for 2 hours and then slowed down then died. I thought it was toast. A week later I filled it with oil and it fired back up. I did a few oil changes and it's still running well. 3. Had to adjust the governor a few times initially because it was running too slow and only around 90V. 4. Every trim screw shook out of it so I replaced them with what I had sitting around. 5. The circuit breaker nut fell off and it fell inside. Removed the cover and put a new nut on it. Found out something you might want to look at. The generator shaft goes into that plastic housing and has a needle bearing. I suggest removing the cover, cleaning the bearing and then regreasing it. I found out from a friend that the bearing seized on his and the whole generator became junk. Honestly, it has tons of hours on it and for the last 10 years, just oil changes, an air filter and spark plug is all I have done.

[@tomtee4442]

They are extremely tough units I've had mine since 1994.

[@davef.2811]

I still have one of these purchased new in 1987, or 88. Still runs and works great. Heavy as hell compared to modern units of similar output, but newer ones likely won't last for 30+ years.

[@ironman3200]

THE PIN IS BETWEEN THE TUSSUE PAPER IT WENT WENT UNDER WHEN YOU REMOVED AND THROW THE FLOATER IN TO THE ALUMINIUM CONTAINER

[@abdullaex4119]

Excellent vid James. A comment that might help in the future. I own and have worked on many of these generators (and others). Buy a paint pen and mark, on the generator, important info. Generator manufacture, model number, plug type (manufacture, gap), oil type (amount, grade) and when changed, etc. On the plastic cover above the gas value, mark the "Open and Closed" position for the value. This helpful for the older eyes. As you have no doubt seen, generators have a habit of losing their original stickers over time. And ALL of the generators I have worked on, NEVER have owners manual. Thanks for taking the time to help folks out...

[@porkyroper6939]

I have the same generator, mine is not putting out with electric power, what can I do to fix it

[@tomtee4442]

@@porkyroper6939 they have stopped making the Coleman 1850 watt generator. I have one I wouldn't mind having another one for some parts. and you're very limited on the parts you can get some parts have been disconnected sadly. I have a new 2200 w dual-fuel sportsman portable inverter generator I'm selling.

[@chogg611]

@@porkyroper6939 give it to James, and buy a honda. Good for life.

[@adamtaylor3021]

thanks i just bought an 1850 today and it is surging so i will follow this video

[@alanmartinez488]

I don't use oil when lubing a fuel line. It never seems to ever grip to the tank nipple again. I use a very dilute soap solution. Dries sticky and helps sealing.

[@marcnorman9350]

have the same unit! dug it out of my fathers garage. have been using it almost every week since then!! love it

[@jesterr7133]

I keep all of my dead carbs too. Those parts come in handy when you need them. I eventually throw them in the ultrasonic cleaner and try to see if I can get them working again when I have time.

[@jjj32801]

Thank you for this video. Hurricane 3 days away and wanted to get my Powermate Generator in working order.

[@jcondon1]

Reef Club glad to help. My in-laws are in NC and my parents in Florida. Have a feeling I might be taking a few generators south. Hopefully it misses.

[@arthurarthur8985]

Good job! Have the same one with a surging issue, now I know what to look for.

[@alstonalto6112]

New carb new plug new lines shutoff gas no help still runs eradic?

[@2005Pilot]

Also make sure spring going to carb is snug

[@jesterr7133]

Lol. I thought every small engine mechanic kept a few 5861s (Rj19LM , J19lm, etc) around. They use those plugs in everything. That's the one item I buy on a commercial scale. I get caught with my pants down every time I don't have some extras laying around. I keep one or two of those Briggs air filters around too. I have one sitting in my bedroom floor right now. It's amazing how much my hobby has consumed me. I will have 3 riding mowers, 2 push mowers, a tiller, and a blower to sell when Spring comes around. All but one are revivals.At least this one pays off, lol.

[@waynedavies3185]

I picked up a second Coleman 1750 unit that had little to next to no compression (it needs a valve job. The whole thing is, one has to remove almost (if not), half of everything to do the job at hand so you can get good excessto the valves and piston area. I am taking my time at this job, as I have other things needing taking care of before working on this unit, so I am doing the job bit by bit when I get the time to do so. Compression pressure was leaking through the valve area on the power stroke. Last night I worked on it late into the night, and redid the valve seats (lapped them), and reset the valve clearances, and re torqued down the head. We now have good useable compression again. It did run and make power before I opened it up to get a higher rate of compression but was very hard to start. It's been cleaned up all over, and fresh oil added, so now it's a matter of putting everything back together properly and firing it up in the next couple of days, when I get another chance of working on it Should run a whole lot better now. Compression is right up to par. Not a bad buy for $30.

[@sbains560]

How you don’t have 100,000 plus subscribers is beyond me

[@jcondon1]

S Bains getting there pretty quickly the last few weeks.

[@bryanorosco6440]

had one of these for years never had a problem gave it to my neighbor as it was too small for my needs

[@monkeyboy563]

Great video. Was bummed to see the recoil BS as the main reason I tuned in was the rope just pulled out of my 1850's recoil and was looking for a fix and, though lengthy, found one. Thanks again!

[@jcondon1]

Yon Bochinkusweskoloff it was not fun replacing that recoil rope. Good luck!

[@jonwolff9222]

What was the fix

[@nicolabooth6075]

Absolutely great work, yeah, them pull starts like that are a real pain to work on, having to dismantle a load of things just to be able to get to it to work on, keep up the great video's and great work

[@jcondon1]

Thanks 👍

[@peterwilliams4795]

The pin rolled under the edge of the paper towel you had in bottom of you aluminium tray lol

[@kens97sto171]

Yep saw that too and just knew when he went to go look for it he wouldn't find it. He really needs to be using a magnetic tray when he's taking apart a carb.

[@er1073]

I am glad I stumbled into this video. I sure didn't look like a great candidate for repair but it turned out great. Thanks for sharing your video with us. Ed

[@w2dmw]

Jim you can get the fuel tank grommet and a matching metal , right angle valve for a couple of bucs as well as 1/4" ID neoprene hose on ebay......

[@jcondon1]

Yes, have since ordered a bunch. Am surprised the parts sellers do not list alternative parts when the OEM ones are not available.

[@w2dmw]

@@jcondon1 well, I always check ebay.....you never know. I was so surprised they had the plastic tank grommets....and olny $1 and change each..!!!

[@jesterr7133]

I use Vaseline when I'm installing hoses. It seems to work pretty well when it comes to getting the hoses on.

[@Roy_Tellason]

Silicone spray applied lightly is another good choice.

[@luisri2454]

Thank you

[@jimmycake7143]

Jimmy, when you build a platform /ramp you can sit on a rolling mechanics seat with tool tray. get off that cold concrete floor , save your back and knees. see better also. John A. upstate NY probably wont work for ever Job. but most . LOL

[@jmonte2811]

You are awesome sir!! :-) very methodical in your diagnosis and actions!!

[@jcondon1]

J Monte thanks! Have a few more good ones in the works!

[@enriquelaroche5370]

I just put one of these together today had to fully disassemble to replace the shaft Oil seal .. not fun but successful and I got the generator off the free pile

[@jcondon1]

Enrique LaRoche the free pile is always nice. Less stress when doing something major like that if it goes bad.

[@enriquelaroche5370]

@@jcondon1 Shaft oil seal required removal of rotor and stator had to tap the inner shaft. (3/8 16 ) tap does not bite much so shallow threads. ran them in about 1.25 " then cut a long 1/4 inch bolt and pressed it off. slow steady easy. Nice little generator looking for a 3400 watt inverter generator on a free pile.. Wish me luck (Ha Ha)

[@denouch358]

I have the same unit, bought it at a garage sale for $50. It began surging this year (2020) and I fixed it by adding Seafoam into the tank.

[@TheBandit7613]

Stop using ethanol tainted fuel in your small engine stuff. Go to a station that sells ethanol free even if it's a few cents more.

[@tomtee4442]

no overpriced stabill or seafoam for me. I use Dollar Tree gas treatment it works and it's proven been using it for over 25 years and counting. I also use the Dollar Tree gas treatment in my 700 horsepower street and strip pump gas engine. And on my diesels I use red heat fuel treatment it's proven and it works.

[@joeyv2008]

The first vid was just fine man and very informative..

[@Coquito870]

great video mate. tku we just got one and will use your video to get it ready for camping or resale.

[@2010stoof]

Pin fell under top paper towel when you pulled it. Lol.

[@djjohnnyg3263]

You Need A Magnet Tray

[@P.Trim69]

Got one them too the dirty model. My buddy gave it to me runs great power not so great. No power output

[@delynnaddams8774]

What affect does cold or hot extreme temps have on gens? Thanks

[@rshawvideos]

Great video. I'm a novice about engines and just started up an old, but not used very much 1850. My question is simple: how do you change the oil? Just tip the unit and let it run out the fill hole? Can I use automobile oil in it? Thanks

[@jcondon1]

You could, but there is also a square bolt on the bottom side of the engine block. You need to elevate the generator so you can get an oil pan under it.

[@jcondon1]

At 18:10 in the video you can kinda see it at the bottom of the engine block near the floor, close to the rubber foot.

[@bradr8806]

not that hard to get tank off. Take the cover , just loosen all bolts on plate, just did it, where receptacle is (grease bearing and clean and tighten electrical connections while your there. Take tank off and absolutely replace the grommet on tank (Stens 125-335, Amazon) , $4, the weak link), yes new fuel line, easy to get starter recoil off then. Clean everything and reassemble. couple hours parts $20 , use no alcohol fuel for all small engines BTW

[@spockmcoyissmart961]

I have an earlier model, 1750. Still works great, I have over 800 hours on the engine. I used reg oil and it would shut down aprox every 40 hrs of use. When I changed to full synthetic, I get on avg an extra 8 hours of run before it would auto shut down via the oil sensor. If I remember, it is a Kawasaki engine.

[@michaelpapa1664]

I just was given a 1750, hasn't been run in at least ten years. It wants to run but won't stay running. I've narrowed it down to the carburetor. Paying someone to fix it if possible. Of course if it needs any parts then it's a boat anchor. I won't spend anything really on it when I can just get a newer one.

[@robertbanules7002]

Thanks for a great video!

[@ericvaughn1126]

Hey I hadn't seen any of your older content. First one I saw was the Kohler head gasket video. Anyway, interesting to see your format evolve to what it is today. Would be interesting to hear how you got to your current successful format and whether it happened as a result of metrics, your own critiquing of your own content, comments or all of the above. Still great quality and educational despite being noticably different than your 2021 material. Good stuff, JC!

[@jcondon1]

Self critiquing and comments like "you ever heard of a tripod", "I cannot hear you" and "I cannot see what you are doing" I took to heart and tried to improve. Also getting better with editing. Still struggling with video quality (using my iphone). Might need to actually buy some better equipment soon.

[@ericvaughn1126]

@@jcondon1 Oh thanks for taking the time to respond, Jim. I wasn't expecting that, but much appreciated. I'd say that for the genre on KZbin, your editing and quality of video and lighting is top level!

[@charlestaylor3544]

I have same generator. Got it cheap at a yard sale. Governor linkage missing. Wrong pull start on engine. Need info on which engines are correct for these units. Thank-you for any/ all assistance.

[@MetalMaster8888]

9:38 I have no idea where this pin went...

[@emptech]

I saw the pin fall out, I think into the tray, keep looking.

[@michaelgay562]

james, I need air cleaner housing along with exhaust shield. Any help would be appreciated. thank you.

[@alstonalto6112]

No help new carb fuel lines plug no adjustment on new carb still erratic running?

[@kingaire165]

James, could you provide us with a video on how to correctly clean a dirty gen set?

[@7charis]

Can you help me find the right coil for a Coleman pulse 1750? The exact middle is pm40-1750. Sorry about asking on this video, but I’ve been watching several. I’ve found one for about $28, but was hoping for something cheaper. A clone.

[@2005Pilot]

So with the 1850 series- 800 watts is the load it should carry? I have to over rev motor to get 1100 watts which didn’t make sense because manufacturer says 1200 watts is what it should do continuously? Thanks for Great Video!!

[@josafarodrigues1501]

U meu gerador não tá gerando

[@jonminer9891]

Hi, James. I am not sure that the effort was worth the final product. It was an interesting and frustrating job. Well done. Thanks for sharing! Stay Healthy!

[@jdcook65]

Bowl float pin fell under a fold in the paper towel. lol

[@meeshobatayeh3413]

Awesome man

[@josesierra614]

Donde halló partes

[@jamesbonno4676]

Anyone know where to get parts for this product line?

[@thephoneguy8629]

Nice vid !!! I have this exact generator and recently went through it to freshen it up. You are correct, its a PITA to get the fuel tank off, To put it back together things have to go in order or just bent that top bracket to get the tank out. But as careful as I was I messed up on 1 thing and Im hoping you know the answer. The black wire that comes from the on off switch, where does it go to??? I can see it in your video and it dives under that tin plate on the non muffler / carb side, But from there where does it go.

[@michaelgay562]

coil

[@philoso377]

If you are still looking for the lost pin (needle float hinge). Check out this video on page 9:39.

[@jcondon1]

I found it by cheating and watched the video.

[@oscarescobar849]

To clean the carb.can I use any can of degreaser or have to be the witch one you use?we're can I buy it?thanks every thing you teach it's wonderful

[@jcondon1]

Harbor Freight Super Heavy Duty Degreaser

[@chivosadventures8171]

Hey man I found one of those on CL, for $80 in great running condition. Should I get it. Would you recommend this Generator?

[@jcondon1]

Chivos adventures a working generator for $80 is a good deal. The only thing to consider is the age. Most likely the fuel line and other rubber parts are cracked or brittle and may need to be replaced. Parts are hard to come by on these machines.

[@chivosadventures8171]

@@jcondon1 Alright man cool, thank you for replying, I think I'll just go ahead and pass on it then. I subscribed to your channel too by the way you have some great, and very interesting repair videos on KZbin.

[@billhenry7833]

We all saw the pin when you threw it. It rolled under the paper towel

[@mgoody8782]

I’d invest in a workbench

[@oyemendigo7344]

Was thinking the same thing. It was driving me crazy watching this dude working on the ground

[@goatee21]

Do if they surge, clean it up?

[@alhagopian2100]

how come you always work on the floor??? put it up on a bench,

[@MCBatty80]

:D Pin in between the paper towels :D

[@richardwalters1803]

Can I come over and help you build a bench, your knee doctor will appreciate it in the future

[@jcondon1]

I do have a bench now. Still no lift table.

[@alialhaidary1072]

The pin is under the napkin see frame @9:40

[@jcondon1]

So it is. Sometimes filming the repair comes in handy.

[@michaeljeannequin3822]

where are the brushes on this generator ?

[@jcondon1]

I believe this generator is brushless.

[@josemarben]

Nice

[@eacars9356]

I saw the pin go under the paper towels

[@runforthehills8631]

Nice video. Could you list the replacement part numbers for the a 1750w air filter (it's a bit different from the 1850w) and the fuel line shut off switch? What weight oil should I use to change my oil?

[@jcondon1]

I usually use 10w-30 synthetic where I live because I see temperature extremes. Otherwise if you are above 40 degrees Fahrenheit use 30 weight. Do not remember the part number on the filter.

[@runforthehills8631]

@@jcondon1 Thanks for the reply. I couldn't find any info on air filters, but ZLKSKER 5pcs 17211-ZL8-023 Air Filters on Amazon has the same dimensions for the 1750w should anyone need a referral. Unfortunately they make you buy 5 filters.

[@jesterr7133]

Where do you find all of these cheap generators? I live in the South, and they are not easy to find cheap around here. I recently revived an old semi-electric compressor, but my house is really old, and it trips the breakers almost immediately. I need to get a decent price on a generator so that I can put the compressor to work.

[@jcondon1]

They are cheaper around here, but still hard to find the really good deals. Only downside is when fixed, they also sell for less.

[@KirkwoodTim]

Just got one of these off someone’s curb. Missing the air box/filter and the metal side plate that covers the muffler. Any idea of a source for those should I get it running?

[@jcondon1]

Unfortunately Powermate had discontinued the parts. Your best bet would be to locate another used one with those parts.

[@KirkwoodTim]

@@jcondon1 Thanks for the feedback. I went back to the house that had it on the curb. He says he may still have the pieces I’m missing in his shed. He’s going to look around and give me a call.

[@charlesbeckler8262]

how many ohms should be read across the outlet. (hot/newtral) I want to say you usually say they read .2 to .6 ohm. ? Mine is reading 2.5 ohm which is weird to me. (oh and the engine is running but not producing power.

[@jcondon1]

Charles Beckler generally 0.5 ohms or less is usually good. The highest I have seen on a working generator was 1 ohm.

[@charlesbeckler8262]

@@jcondon1 yep this one is reading at 2.5 . Backstory for others. I got it work and producing power at 128v 68hz so I was trying to slow the engine down. I messed with the governor spring (moved it to a different hole) and when I powered it back up it was goin too fast. I saw on the screen 80hz and 153v before I got it shut down. In conclusion in one of your videos you say “be very careful with the governor. It will wreck an engine quickly” So true. Anyway the engine seems fine I moved the spring back and messed with the metal bracket the spring connects to to loosen the spring some more. I guess that’s what I should have done I; the first place?? But I think I ruined the generator. I’ll take the generator apart and see what I see. But not sure what I’m looking for so probably won’t see much. At the very least I should have a good spare Briggs engine.

[@twofeathers6540]

[@frankaferdhadley1603]

Hey James I have a question for you I have a 2015 champion 2000 Watt inverter it has no spark could it be a coil or something else just asken thanks

[@jcondon1]

Not sure if that uses a CDI or not. If a traditional ignition coil then there should be one kill wire connected to it. Remove that wire and test for spark. If you get spark back then test the off switch and also bypass the low oil module to figure out where the coil is being grounded. If no spark then probably a bad coil. Otherwise it might use a CDI and also have a pulse generator which could be bad of the CDI itself.

[@michaelgay562]

@@jcondon1 check keyway

[@wam8963]

Hi James, May you explain the difference between surging and hunting on a carburetor please? Wam.

[@jcondon1]

Hunting is more an unsteady speed. Surging is the more extreme version.

[@wam8963]

@@jcondon1 Thank you 👍

[@jmiller1821]

Best way to vent exhaust outside...?

[@jcondon1]

Sorry, that is not something I have not tried or looked into.

[@larrence3]

So how many turns does that main Jet need? Mine is screwed all the way in..

[@jcondon1]

Owen Wilson the main jet is not adjustable. Just screw it all the way in.

[@blakerhoades6356]

i got this same generator when it was going to the scrap yard. i heard it was surging so it was put outside. when i got it the engine was siezed. i just soaked the cylinder with oil and used an impact on the fly wheel now it's a very powerful generator but it still surges with no choke. i cleaned the carb lots of times and still nothing. also the front cover was broken i made a bracket but it looks bad. do you know where i can find a front cover?

[@jcondon1]

The parts are discontinued. Your best bet would be eBay or locate another broken generator with a good cover.

[@blakerhoades6356]

@@jcondon1 Thank you, i didn't even think of that.

[@jmiller1821]

I just got a Powermate Sport 1600. $120. Came with gas, should I burn it out?

[@jcondon1]

J Miller at a minimum close the fuel valve and run the engine until it stalls. Gas should be changed out every year and treated with stabilizer.

[@jmiller1821]

@@jcondon1 not sure how long gas been in, I can't find any info on it...is the fuel valve the red switch on a line? I don't want to sound stupid, it's my first generator, I'd like to learn all about it.:)

[@jcondon1]

J Miller that sounds correct.

[@jesterr7133]

Your hoard, lol. At least you're honest about it. Don't worry, we all have one. I'm about to spend $2K to build myself a workshop, and contain the parts stash to some degree.

[@robbieminton1880]

That filter is factory

[@bobpharris6179]

What is the engine in these? It looks like a Briggs & Stratton. Wanting to add propane capability to mine and need model and all to order the correct kit.

[@jcondon1]

It is an Briggs and Stratton. Was not able to read the engine number. The generator frame was blocking it. The engine number is usually on the blower housing.

[@tomtee4442]

Also people if you're wanting a propane generator or a dual fuel propane and gasoline generator. For easy starting make sure you get the propane purge button on the one-way regulator. if not it can be a monster to start. I know I have two different factory dual fuel generators. I won't mention the name of the generators but they're all about the same harder to start if they don't have this manual propane Purge button on them. Another tip when starting a generator like this without that manual push button propane Purge button is to let the generator sit with the propane fuel going to it maybe 10 minutes or more before starting it. And do just what the instructions say to do helps. My hutch mountain tri fuel kit on propane works excellent and is so easy to start up on my 2200 watt inverter Honda generator. My other 700-900 watt Baja generator, propane fuel only generator has that nice manual propane purge button for easy hassle free startups. all generators that run propane or natural gas should have this manual purge button from the factory.

[@tomtee4442]

Read my comment down below on dual fuel propane conversion on my 1850 watt Coleman generator.

[@carloseterany8512]

Hi Jordon, great video btw, I got one used, and it was kind mess up, I have a few question, hope you can help, how do you check oil level, both yellow top are flat, they do not have the little stick for the mesure, is that ok? or the previous owner changed them? second question, the metal stick that connect to the carburator was out, I think they forgot to put it back, I figured it out where it was suposed to be conected, but there is a spring that was loose too in the metal stick. could you send me some information where it belongs? Thank you. Greatings from Venezuela, sorry for my bad English.

[@jcondon1]

Carlos E Teran Y those yellow caps are fine. Just fill the oil until it just starts to come out of the fill hole where the yellow cap goes. Good find on the carburetor linkage. Without that connected the governor does not work and the engine will overspeed and destroy itself. That spring on the metal rod either goes in the same holes as the metal rod or sometime there is another hole right next to where the metal rod goes. That spring just takes the play out of the rod to make the engine speed more steady. Some engines do not have that at all. Not supper critical, but better to use it if you have it.

[@carloseterany8512]

@@jcondon1 thanks for the info, just cleaned up the carburator just like you show us. Tomorrow I'll get some fuel and give it a try. Hope it will work. I'll tell you how it goes. You and your channel are the best. Keep it going.Thanks again.

[@jcondon1]

Thanks, hope it goes well. Been really busy recently, but a couple videos in the works.

[@carloseterany8512]

James Condon well it worked, a little blue smoke at the beginning, but later it become clear, i think it might be something to give a check, but I’m not sure.. I connected a lamp and it worked, can I send you some videos? I’ll like to read your opinion! Thanks man!

[@jcondon1]

Carlos E Teran Y check the hertz to make sure the engine speed is good. Blue smoke is burning oil. If it went away probably not an issue. If it does not go away then could be worn rings on the piston. You can run it like that, but be sure to check the oil before using and monitor the level. It you want to show me the video, upload to KZbin and send me the link.

[@Jordonkuhnke]

What is the thing you where using to clean the pieces?

[@jcondon1]

Jordon Kuhnke the carburetor pieces? If so then it was a Harbor Freight ultrasonic cleaner with Harbor Freight heavy duty degreaser.

[@Jordonkuhnke]

@@jcondon1 Yes, thank you!

[@tazbud33]

Does anyone know if this is a bonded or floating neutral?

[@jcondon1]

I do not know, but if you have a multimeter (with the generator off) set multi-meter in continuity or ohms, put one probe on the ground outlet and the other in the neutral and check for continuity.

[@agy234]

Mine says floating neutral on it- sticker from the factory

[@kevinconnor6921]

Seafoam

[@NitroGuyJH]

Those tiny generators/inverter generators are the worst man!

[@Melicoy]

You sound a bit off. Get well soon.

[@charlesbowen3944]

Good video but you need a work bench I hate seeing a man work on the floor

[@jcondon1]

I know. I have a bench that I try to use, but sometimes it is just full of other projects. Will get a lift table at some point.

[@tomtee4442]

if anybody wanted to sell their Coleman 1850 watt non-running or running generator I would buy it.

[@teslatesla8713]

Mine runs great but stopped making power

[@jcondon1]

It is brushless. If you are lucky, just the capacitor.

[@joebrock9784]

You tell Briggs and Stratton until paper filters aren't good enough today and all the companies that put them also on their single cylinder longhor send the factory they're a whole lot better than a screen type or just a piece of screen why are rockets in your screen door so you tell Briggs Stratton and everybody else that don't work please don't voice your opinions on here when you can't back your opinions of the fact😅

[@dshogan6174]

Dirty? Get over it and get a grip.

[@davidfoulk3078]

Save yourself a lot of frustration Jim, remove those pesky government mandated spark arrester screens on all of your mufflers on all of your small engines they plug up way to easy.